Nancy Guthrie Mystery: Kidnapped to Mexico? The Truth About Eerie Google Searches

Hey, everyone. I'm Ashley Banfield, and this is Drop Dead Serious. And we are at day 18 in the Nancy Guthrie investigation. And lest you think, oh, it's slowing down, it isn't. Just a ton of stuff happened today. Some things that happened that seemed really big turned out not to be big.

So I'm going to clear up what you may have heard earlier and give you the real straight dope on it. But also, some stuff was revealed today that was interesting, maybe goes back three weeks and clears up some early things that happened in this investigation. For starters, the big news is that now the federal authorities are indeed considering that this might be south of the border. There may be an issue south of the border,

that they need to talk to the authorities in Mexico. But that is absolutely not what the sheriff said earlier. We've got a couple of examples right up to yesterday in February 5th, I think it is, where the sheriff said, no, we're not looking south of the border.

I'll explain all that in a minute. Also about the cameras. Do you remember how I reported on the 3rd of February that there nest cameras that they were smashed and that there are multiple? Well as it turns out, there are multiple. We learned that yesterday and now we're learning from Brian Enten that some of those cameras

actually were left behind and are actually with Google. So not everything was destroyed, not everything was taken by the perpetrator. So that's interesting. Also the BBC got some really interesting reporting. They did an interview with the sheriff and the sheriff basically said that early on the family was put through the ringer

by the sheriff's deputies. So my early reporting says that they had their laser focus on the brother-in-law. And as it turns out, wait until you hear how the sheriff actually characterized the kind of investigation they were doing of the family early on.

Now he has clearly changed his tune, but that doesn't mean that early on they weren't laser focused. And we've already gone over all the reasons why, right? They towed Annie's car, they were taking pictures at the house late at night, they were in and out of the house multiple times, searching around the home, searching the neighbors,

taking the mail, a lot of things happen. And now the sheriff is actually intimating that yeah, they did, they put them through the ringer. That was his word. So I'll show you that. I'm going to play you that interview. Also, have you been wondering who the people were in the 40 photographs? You know, the 40 photographs and 40 names that were taken around? Brian Enten had this reporting out to the various gun shops around the Tucson area to show the people who work there pictures and names. Can you run this through your system? Have you seen this guy? The sheriff said to Jonathan Hunt of Fox News, that's a lie. That didn't happen.

Well, it did happen, because multiple gun shops actually were interviewed and said it did happen, that the feds were there and showed them the names. Well, now we know who the names were and how they got to the names. At least we have reporting on that.

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of the border now, engaging with the Mexican authorities in an effort to find Nancy Guthrie. Find her. Find who took her. You know, yeah, good idea. Great idea. Nancy Guthrie's home is only an hour and a half from the border. Okay, we can put the map up. News Nation had this great map and it showed that she's just one straight shot down an interstate, hour and a half, 75 miles. Conal McShane had an expert on his show.

I'm going to go into some of the other stuff that this guy said he was really smart, but he said 75 miles and they put up this map. Look how close that is. Why would this not have been in consideration early on? Because the sheriff in this case has said multiple times, including on February 5th, let's run that sound bite, when he was asked in a news conference, one of the last news conferences we had weeks ago, are they considering the possibility that they might be, you know,

that Nancy might be in Mexico, that they, are they engaging with the Mexican authorities? So let's, let's run that.

This being a border state, have you guys had any communication with Mexican authorities?

I have not. I work closely with the Mexican consulate as other consulates being the sheriff, but no, I've not.

Okay. So February 5th, the sheriff is saying, no, that's not something that they're doing. So Fox News Channel, Michael Ruiz reports this, tweeted this out. A federal law enforcement official confirms the FBI has contacted Mexican authorities in connection with the Nancy Guthrie case.

In fact, that's what Libby Dean, TMZ, and Michael Ruiz at Fox News Channel all reporting, that their sources are saying that the Mexican authorities have in fact been contacted by federal law enforcement. And all of this comes just after the sheriff in the case says that the investigation hasn't developed any firm evidence that she's been taken across the border.

Even yesterday in Jonathan Hunt's interview, Jonathan Hunt is a Fox News reporter who's on location in Tucson, who interviewed the sheriff. And in the interview, police haven't seen evidence that Nancy Guthrie's abductors took her south of the border. Sheriff Nanos tells Fox News's Jonathan Hunt, quote, we have nothing to indicate that. This is just yesterday.

Just yesterday, the sheriff says we have nothing to indicate that. However, everybody's sources, including Fox News, News Nation, TMZ, and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch of them, all have it on authority that their federal sources say they are. They are engaging with the federal authorities. Matt Finn, Fox News. The guidance I got on the FBI talking with Mexico in relation to Nancy Guthrie is that it is standard for the FBI to communicate with Mexico on cases like this and that the FBI has likely

been in touch with Mexican counterparts for a while, if not from the start of the FBI's involvement in this case. That would be Monday, Feb. 2, right? Mrs. Guthrie is reported missing on Sunday, Feb. 1. The FBI showed up on Monday, Feb 2. So if it would be standard that the FBI would be doing this, the federal authorities would be doing this, are they

just not talking to the sheriff? The sheriff has said since Feb 5 in a news conference and just yesterday to Jonathan Hunt, we have nothing to indicate that. Okay. Conal McShane today on News Nation on his show, again, has this great graphic showing how close Nancy Guthrie's home is to the border. And then he had a really good guest named Chip Massey, his retired FBI hostage negotiator who had a lot of wisdom about the way this works when it comes to dealing with the federal

authorities. He said, the FBI has a legal attaché in Mexico. We work with them all the time, right? Has a very strong relationship with authorities in Mexico City, local and federal authorities in Mexico. He also says, this does not look like a cartel thing to me. This is Chip Massey, right?

He says, they don't want this kind of attention. This is a low dollar value for them. And to authenticate ransom seekers, ransom demands, he said the FBI looks for consistency and patterns, but that there's not a lot of that in the ransom demands, the alleged ransom demands that have been coming fast and furious in this case. And specifically the one that TMZ got today, which I will get to in a moment, also does

not fit this pattern. And yes, TMZ got what I think this is about five or six now, overtures from people who want money. Brian Enten also has a source on the ground that tells him this does not look like a cartel job. All of this coming on the same day that everybody's getting reporting that the

feds are engaging with Mexico and the Mexican authorities. Okay, to that end, the sheriff gave an interview to the BBC. Again, gave a lot of interviews, all 10 minutes a piece, but the BBC got something really interesting, a couple of really interesting pieces from the sheriff. Number one is that the sheriff believes in his words that Nancy is local. I believe, I think she's somewhere here in our community. Locally the reporter says yeah, why? I just do. I don't know why. I don't have the evidence

for that. I just do. That's what the sheriff said and then he went on to say something very interesting to the BBC reporter when the reporter said, well, how did you rule out the family? What was it that you went through to rule out the family? And the way the sheriff answered him was very insightful as to what was going on early

on in the investigation. Remember, my reports said that early on, very trusted source said they had zeroed in. That department, the sheriff's department, had zeroed in. That department, the sheriff's department, had zeroed in on the brother-in-law as someone they said could be the prime suspect now,

may be the prime suspect now. Well, the way that the sheriff answered this reporter with the BBC suggests that they may very well have thought that. Listen to how the sheriff answered the question.

You basically cleared, as it were, Savannah Guthrie and her siblings from suspicion. What led to that? Was it the fact that you had investigated them and then found them to be innocent, or was it as a result of the sort of pressure

that we've seen from the media?

All cases have a progression, right? A starting point. And typically in something like this, you're gonna start with who or what? The scene and who last saw her. And that was family.

But you naturally go through that. There's a delicacy there that you've got to understand that you're dealing with some victims here as well. That's her mom, right? That's their mom. So we really put them through the ringer. We not just interview them. We take their cars. We take their houses. We take their

phones, all this stuff, and and we're not taking it. they're giving it to us voluntarily. They have been 100% cooperative with us through everything we've asked. They are victims. They are not suspects.

And was this a targeted kidnapping?

You know, I believe that. But the evidence and the case as it unfolds will prove that or prove something else. But yes, I believe it was and How long do you think it will take to catch this man? Oh, I'm doing this for 50 years. I Could sit here and tell you boy. We'll never solve this case and then the next day we solve it Here's one that I go man. I wish we could solve it in the next 10 minutes It may be the next 10 days, the next 10 months, or worse.

Where do you think Nancy Gasseri is?

I think she's somewhere here in our community.

Locally.

Yeah.

What makes you think that? I just do. I don't know why. I don't have any evidence to prove that. But I just believe that she's somewhere locally.

Look, everybody has the right in an investigation to change their minds and to follow the evidence where it leads, and they should. I have said it since the beginning. I have screamed it since the beginning. That was the reporting early on. It wasn't some theory that I floated. I saw USA Today wrote that the other day, that I floated a theory. No, this is a trusted law enforcement source who said that was the focus. It does beg the question, were they tunnel vision? Were they only looking there? And did that cost us valuable time in this investigation looking elsewhere? Because all of a sudden, you know, a week plus later,

this guy shows up on a ring cam that the feds were able to extract from the Google data, right? It is an interesting topic for discussion, and it's a fair topic for discussion, because sometimes that can happen. Sometimes you can be so focused.

And one of my guests previously said that it's confirmation bias. And then you just get all your evidence to confirm what you think instead of widening the aperture. But I am fascinated to see that the sheriff is admitting

that they put the family through the ringer early on. Admitting, tow the car. Admitting, seize the house. Admitting, seize the phones. We hadn't heard that before. Seize the phones.

Very interesting. The sheriff is just sort of letting these dribs and drabs out, where before he would just say, I'm not confirming that. I'm not confirming that. I wonder when we're going to hear that maybe the Nest camera was smashed, because that's something that my source also reported to me, that the Nest cameras, plural, were smashed. And Michael Ruiz from Fox said that he saw shards of glass below the doorbell cam. Okay. One other thing that the sheriff said to Brian Enten that really stands out, we gave them the other cameras. We gave them the other cameras, meaning

we gave the other cameras, so we're plural, to Google to try to extract more information. He said to Brian Enten, unfortunately, they couldn't. We couldn't. We don't have it yet. I don't know that the FBI has applied whatever

they were doing. The scratching, it's called video scratching. Think of it as this is the way it was described. An onion, when you scratch each layer off the onion to try to get to the layers below, that's what they described what the FBI was doing

in scratching those databases. I don't know if they've come up empty with those other cameras from inside the house. Fascinating. Some may be from outside the house. He's not very specific. He did say inside the house at one point, but he said plural.

And it means those cameras weren't taken by the perpetrator. Because if the sheriff was able to give them to Google, bad guy didn't take them when he made off with the other cameras that were missing, right? So it's very, very interesting in this investigation.

You may have heard some reporting today about polygraph tests, and it looked really big. The early reporting was that polygraphs were used to clear people in the case. Brian Enten said, I've learned that polygraphs have been performed to clear people in the Nancy Guthrie case.

And then Fox News, as Jonathan Hunt said, polygraph testing is being conducted today at the Pima County Sheriff's Department. It is unclear who's being tested or whether the activity is connected to the suspected abduction of Nancy Guthrie at this time, more as we get it.

And then Matt Finn got an update later on, took a lot to sort of extract all this information from the authorities, and he posts this on X. Sheriff Nanos tells me the polygraphs today are for new hires. Well that would mean absolutely not the Guthrie case, but you know, there's been a lot of communication gaps, I would say, being generous.

And so who knows if it's possible both things are true, that some people were cleared through polygraphs and that today polygraphs are being conducted on new hires. But that's the reporting. I just wanted to give it to you as it came out today. TMZ's other letter. I mean, I'm losing count, right?

But boy, this one, this was different. Harvey Levin said this was very sophisticated in its request. It was different from the other letters. It had a different address, different wallet, and very graphic consequences of what would happen if the money wasn't paid. But as for the money, this time, not using Bitcoin, not asking for Bitcoin, instead asking

for $6 million of a different kind of cryptocurrency. How about that? Doesn't sound very legit to me. What are we? Oh, yeah, day 18. So that's that. And then at the same time, the FBI said to TMZ, do us a solid. And Harvey did. Please tell all of your viewers, which Harvey did, anybody trying to exploit this family and this crime to seek ransom is, quote, quote,

going to spend a long time in federal prison. So there are parallel investigations going on here, right? They're investigating who the sons of bitches are that have been sending these ransom letters and tormenting this family, right?

They already caught one guy, allegedly, who reached out to some family members. And he's already facing federal charges. And he's made a first appearance. But just wait for it, because you may see others who will be hauled in on the drag net.

And I can't wait for that rogues gallery. I can't wait for that perp walk to show who these people are. And I really hope they can get to the bottom of it. How about the 40 names and 40 photos? If you were like me, you're probably wondering, who are they? Who are they? If you missed yesterday's episode, go check it out.

But also, the feds have been going around to various gun shops around Tucson with a big stack of names and photos and showing the folks who work in the gun shop or own the gun shops, have you seen these people? Do you recognize these names? Check your system. And some of them have. Looking, don't have it. And so the various journalists who are down on location actually interviewed some of these gun shop workers slash owners who said that, yes, this happened.

The FBI came here and asked us these questions and had these stacks of photos and names, right? Then the sheriff said, that's not true. That didn't happen. Told Jonathan Hunt in his interview, that's not true. It is true.

I mean, we saw it, we saw it. Which also makes me wonder, did the sheriff just not know? Did he just not know that the feds are doing that? Maybe the feds aren't sharing all their information with the sheriff because he says things that get kind of misconstrued and then he backtracks. So maybe they're just not.

But it is true. And Jonathan Hunt, you asked the right question. So what we learned from TMZ today from from their federal source, is that they created the list of people who had purchased the gun holster. How about that? That gun holster, I think Michael Ruiz might have been the first person to report that

it's available for $10 at Walmart. You know, that real-ass gun holster that the perpetrator was holding right over his business, right in the middle, you know? Some people call it a Mexican carry. I'm not sure that's exactly what a Mexican carry is.

But he had the wrong gun for that holster. It's a revolver holster with a semi-automatic inside. But the holster apparently was part of the clue here as to how they compiled some of these names. Some or all I don't know, but that's TMZ's reporting from their source. Also, TMZ had some interesting reporting. This is what I assumed because it just stands to reason that everything you saw on that video, the guy's jacket, the guy's backpack, that Bella Clava.

I keep going to the Bella Clava. Who buys a ski mask in Arizona? Not many, but the Bella Clava, the jacket, the backpack, everything you see, the pants, the shoes, all of it. TMZ reports there's an FBI team that is assigned to just those products that you're seeing in the video, reaching out to Walmart, other retailers, and trying to find out if maybe they've got cluster purchases. I've been talking about cluster purchases because a lot of dumb people who commit crimes buy all their stuff in one fell swoop.

Brian Walsh went and bought all the cleanup to clean up that, you know, hatchet job he did in his own basement to his wife, Anna Walsh. He went and bought all, he had a giant push cart. I saw the photo, by the way. He had a giant push cart of all the products to clean up his crime from, what, Home Depot. You know, just an idiot. But you know what? There's a reason we call them dumbest criminals. Sometimes they just do that. And hopefully we'll get lucky here that this perpetrator did a cluster purchase, bought the balaclava at the same time as the backpack, at the same time as the gun holster, at the same time as the jacket, maybe the pants, who knows? But they've got an entire team, according to TMZ,

assigned to do just that, run down those leads, run down those purchases. And here's the quote. The law enforcement source told TMZ, quote, we are shaking the trees looking for clues. We are shaking the trees looking for clues. I like that language. Real gumshoe stuff. Okay, Michael Ruiz posted something earlier today.

Lots of people have been talking about it. It was a real holy dina moment. It's going to be mitigated in a hot minute, but let me just tell you how the reporting sort of came out today. So Michael Ruiz from Fox Digital posted on X, somebody searched for Nancy Guthrie's address and her famous daughter's salary before the Today host's mother vanished. Jesus, that's big.

Google data shows this, he says. He's talking about Google Trends that shows like searching patterns, who searches for what when. He goes on to say, it is not clear that the searches are connected to one another or to her suspected abduction. So he's very clear that, look, I'm seeing what I'm seeing, but I don't know that it's connected. But the time of one of the searches, January 11th, remember that date?

Michael Ruiz says it aligns with the time frame that was specified in a Ring app post from a neighbor calling on locals to turn in video taken that evening between 9 PM and midnight. Remember, we were all wondering, why January 11? What would that have been? And then everything changed.

They changed and said, no, January 1 all the way to Feb 1. But January 11, the timing of one of the searches. So now I went to the website and I read the full Fox report, Fox News report. It said Google Trends records show there was one search for Guthrie's address in the Catalina foothills between June 21st and the 28th, 2025. It's a year ago, right?

By somebody in Arizona. The address was searched again once on January 11th, 2026. The January 11th date also surfaced in a message on the Ringcam app posted on Feb 12th asking neighbors to share a video between 9 and midnight as well as on January 31st. So there were, this is something else they report on the Fox website. There were also two separate Google image searches for Nancy's address in Arizona.

One was sometime between March 1st and 8th 2025 and another between November 30th and December 1st 2025 specifically looking for images or a map of the home. In addition to the address in the days leading up to Nancy's disappearance, Savannah Guthrie's salary, that's in quotes, Savannah Guthrie's salary was searched from Tucson sometime between December 13th and 20th, 2025. So I just about fell over backwards thinking, oh my God, I mean, that just, that

just sounds so incredibly telling in this investigation. Can't we find the IP address of who did that? But then News Nation reached out to Google to try to get, you know, flesh this out a little bit and say, hey, you know, what do you know about this? And Google had some really interesting things to say. It's a little complicated, so I am going to read their words exactly. So follow along.

OK, Google said, we are actively trying to get corrections in the Fox piece as there are some fundamental misunderstandings and inaccuracies in what was reported. Key facts for you to know. Again, this is Google to NewsNation. Google Trends does not, underlined in bold, show actual volume of queries. So the suggestion that an individual person did a given search is not something you can claim via the Google Trends tool.

That's interesting. Then, underlined, very important, they say, for queries with very low or even no search volume at all, Google Trends charts will show statistical noise as a privacy protection measure. Because of this, Google Trends charts are not, bold and underlined, definitive evidence of a specific search having occurred. And then they say, if you're still planning to publish something, we can provide a statement,

but would encourage you to scrutinize the claims given this information about how trends works. So that's super interesting, because it sort of tamps down the shock value of that report. But I think also, I would only assume that the FBI would have gone in and looked, right? If you see anything like that, you would have taken a really close look. And maybe with this reporting, if they haven't already, they will.

All right, something else changed today. For those of you who are motivated by money. And I know that 99.99999% of you watching right now, this is not something that you're going to be able to do. I don't think you're going to know the information, but the reward for information about Nancy Guthrie's disappearance has just gone up again.

And there's a little bit of confusion as to who's giving what money and how much is it because the Pima County Sheriff announced that there's an anonymous donation of a hundred thousand given in addition to the FBI's 100,000. But then in Matt Finn's post it said the reward for Nancy Guthrie has been increased to $202,500. So there's this extra $2,500 that's making everybody a little confused.

Because if it's $100,000 from the FBI and it's $100,000 from that very nice lawyer who works in Crime Stopping, where's the $2,500? Does that mean that it's now $300,000? Because it's $202,500 with Pima County Sheriff's announcement and then the additional $100,000? No. So here's how it works. And Mary Coleman from KOLD helped us to sort of piece this all together. For those asking, 88 Crime,

that's an organization, 88 Crime, keeps all their donors anonymous, which is why they're calling the recent donor that. But he did come forward himself. It's Michael Huppe or Hoopie. I don't know how it's H-U-P-E-Y. And he's that Milwaukee lawyer who we reported yesterday was offering the $100,000 in addition to the FBI's $100,000. But Ashley, what about that $2,500? I think it's because 88 Crime may have already had $2,500 in their coffers, and he's added the $100,000 to it. So that's why. So basically, that's the total now that's being offered between the FBI's reward of $100,000 and 88 Crimes reward of $102,500.

It is a total of $202,500 reward. 1-800-CALL-FBI. If you're one of those people who may know something, if you recognize that guy, if you recognize his shape, his bend, the way he walks, anything about him, if you recognize those clothes, that bella clava, 1-800-CALL-FBI. Even if you don't want the money. Who doesn't want it? But 1-800-CALL-FBI. So there's a little bit more information from Pima County Sheriff. Again, it usually comes out in statements and then, you know, these select interviews,

no news conferences. And here it is. Pima County Sheriff's Department has received various requests for confirmation of various topics, including working with Mexican authorities, utilizing polygraph tests, specific video surveillance requests, financial analysis, etc. Pima County Sheriff's Department is not confirming or releasing any details regarding

those topics at this time. So yesterday, the Pima Sheriff was saying to Jonathan Hunt about the search, you know, south of the border. Nope. Nope, not doing that. And then today, no comment. So maybe now he's aware of the overtures to the Mexican authorities by the federal government.

What he didn't say is additional information is going to be withheld about those searches in the gun stores, taking the 40 names and 40 photos. That's not in here. Just topics including working with Mexican authorities, using polygraph tests, video surveillance, and financial analysis. Okay, so about SWAT activity. Big, big activity today. More SWAT going out. Oh my god, is this another one of these raids?

We've already had two. The Pima County Sheriff actually tweeted about that. We do not share where our teams are dispatched to for officer safety. There was a call this afternoon, Pima Sheriff says, that is not related to the Nancy Guthrie investigation. So if you got all excited about that, it was not related. But this was really interesting.

The sheriff said to Brian Enten in his interview that the number of leads that have come in to the sheriff and the FBI is now closer to 40 to 50,000 combined. Wow. 40 to 50,000 leads combined. Given all that, really interesting tweet from Matt Finn today. He says, and it's kind of like a reminder, I actually really liked it because he kind

of started off the day and it made me think, okay, that's a palate cleanser. Let's move forward and find out what today is going to yield. He said, weeks into the Nancy Guthrie case and the public has not been asked to look out for any type of car. Reminder Tucson says it does not have traffic cameras that record. Pima County says it does have cameras but they're not always crystal clear.

Of course look at Nancy's Nest Cam. If feds want video of a car, they may just find it. But in general, no description of any car in this day and age with cameras everywhere seems remarkable. If you missed one of my episodes earlier, I did go into why cameras around the Tucson area may not have recorded a vehicle coming in and out of that neighborhood, and it's

because it's to monitor traffic flow. And you know, monitoring traffic flow basically means, you know, change the lights quicker if there's not a lot of traffic, but not recording it. A lot of those cameras aren't for recording, which is very frustrating to hear, right? Because Matt's right.

In this day and age, how on earth is this possible, right? OK, something else that I want you to know about from Arizona Family. I've done a lot of checking on there because they're doing some really good reporting. Arizona Family again is the branded name for a media company that incorporates two TV stations in the Phoenix area and one of their reporters, Brianna Whitney,

has had a lot of good reporting and she put out a report from the attorney for the man who was detained Friday night last week. Remember the house was raided and then nearby a guy was grabbed and detained and it was a silver Range Rover. Still don't know what the heck happened to that.

They were like putting up the privacy screens to open the back hatch and then towed it off on a flatbed. Still don't know what happened with that. But that guy's lawyer put out a statement and because it has been a lot of people like shredding the guy who was detained. I don't know why his lawyer put his name out, but I'm just going to call him him, just in from the attorney for the man detained Friday night.

His law firm can confirm that he was the subject of two search warrants issued and served on February 13th, 2026. He and his mother were both detained by law enforcement while the search warrants were being executed. Neither this man nor his mother were arrested in connection to this case or any other. He has no link whatsoever to Nancy Guthrie and has no

information related to her kidnapping. Like the entire Tucson community, both he and his mother are hopeful that Nancy will be returned to her family unharmed." So that's the lawyer for that man finally coming forward and saying, stop. But you know, what's interesting is that Brian Enten reported that his sources say there's still some meat on the bones and that the investigation continues in that particular Friday night raid of last week.

It was 13th, remember, Feb. 13th, the night before Valentine's Day. We were all up till 4 in the morning watching this all happen. They brought out like an army to raid this house and then, you know, detain this guy. We still don't know the information that came from that Silver Land Rover, Range Rover. So there's still some kind of investigative work that's going on there. But this lawyer is pretty definitive, like back that F off.

Okay. And then this is a good way to kind of bring it to a close. Matt Finn said that Fox has been told by some of the federal sources and by Sheriff Danos himself that the FBI and the Sheriff's Department are getting along fine. I was told this again today. So different sources are saying different things to different people. Some federal sources are saying that, you know, yeah, he's delayed us.

He didn't invite us into the fold early enough. And we don't know who's running the show, some of the folks working on the investigation say. We don't know if the bosses of the FBI or the Sheriff's Department. And then the sheriff sort of threw cold water on a lot of that, saying, look, we work real well together.

They were brought in the next day. It wasn't a delay, et cetera. And here's Matt to say that his sources, federal sources, saying that, you know what, it's going OK. I said that there's some truth to it all, and then there's, it's not the overall truth. I think there's some sniping, but that generally speaking, I think they probably do work well together.

I just personally think that it's possible that the feds haven't been telling the sheriff everything. We know for a fact they didn't tell him that they were going to get a statement on camera directly to the alleged ransom seekers that very first statement, because the sheriff said, I found out from my wife.

So we know that. And then this other business of going to the gun shops. Federal authorities going to the gun shops with photos and names and asking the proprietors there, have you seen these people? Sheriff said, that's a lie. It didn't happen.

Well, it did. And so maybe that's, again, something that the feds didn't share with the sheriff. Whatever's happening, know this. Everybody's working really hard. Everybody has the same goal. We want to find Nancy.

We want to find Nancy. Please God, find Nancy alive, right? Everybody's doing that. The guys on the force, whether they're experienced or not, all have the same mission and they're all working really hard. Might they have made big mistakes in the beginning? Might they be making some mistakes now? Sure, why not? Might one of the biggest mistakes have been that they focused on the family member right away,

maybe to the exclusion of all these other things that we're now seeing in three weeks. I don't know. But I'm starting to see that some of my reporting is bearing out as to what my source told me. And that was where the sheriff's focus was early on. We'll see if that continues. They certainly have changed their tune, clearing the family, clearing the siblings,

clearing the spouses. FBI not necessarily doing that. We haven't gotten any statements from them that's in accordance with that. But look, it's an investigation. It moves, it wiggles, it changes, it's dynamic, and it should. I've always said that from the beginning.

The evidence should dictate your direction, and you should keep an open mind. Everybody in law enforcement learns that. Again, do they make mistakes along the way? Maybe. Sure. Yeah. In this case, we'll see. Thank you everybody for listening. Thank you for watching us. So appreciate you here. Please don't forget, do me a solid, hit that subscribe button and I will see you

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