NETIZEN BONGKAR MUKA WULAN ASLINYA GRADAKAN‼️ SAMPAI KE PSIKOLOG-NANGIS-HINGGA LUKA BR*K3N HOME ⁉️

Iko mukanya wulan terata gradakan ya ga ada public tau muka wulan gradakan to ngga tau aku sempat nangis tanya management aku Nih apaan sih kalau sekarang Aku kepingin punya pasangan lagi trauma trauma mana yang udah kamu berhasil lewatnya aku tuh traumanya ditinggalin Oh, yeah, the rumah sakit aku nggak mau lihat sekarang iso. They're gonna be you lost him, but the reaction you did was wrong that's crazy, trauma can make us like that

and you regret your reaction

yes, my stress mark is quite a lot here

don't show it here, stomach can you not point it?

let's see there's still a little bit left

right?

the scar is already increased he's talking about the...

for God's sake, you're so fragrant

were you a virgin? all the 3rd born are normal but if it's like that, I'm sorry, it must be a lie of course, it's impossible not to. Because people are really fat, then diet, then skinny.

There must be a laziness, right? Yes, how is that? We are filled with acid. If for example, giving birth, then for example, ah, I don't want to breastfeed, ah, I'm afraid to go down, but it's still going to go down. But it's not fair either.

But it's still going to go down because there's still a lot of filling, and then the acid is slowly stopped. Then it still has that reluctance. I don't think it's possible. Yes, it's already a risk of becoming a mother and not a problem.

Yes, that's right.

Because the problem is in the husband

yes, he can accept it or not but if you are like that you have experience, how do you finally want to be fast again is there a solution?

one accepts if one way just be allowed if using a gym, can it be like that?

no can't?

No.

To be cured, you have to have surgery. Yes, you have to have surgery.

Is there any option?

If you're too fat, like this, it seems like if you go to the gym, you go to the gym, I also go to the gym, do you go to the gym?

I go to the gym.

It seems like when we play soccer, the muscles are here, above the chest can he do that? no, he can't because the skin is already stretched sometimes people with obesity or overweight and then skinny and tone there must be a sagging skin

stretch marks can also be

yes, stretch marks sagging skin is like an orange skin the skin that is fat stretch marks can also be there yes stretch marks the skin that is fat, what is it called if it's stretch marks, it's like orange skin eh, not, the one that is stretched is different, it's fat did you have it before?

everything is there, what you mentioned is there still a stretch mark? there is, but fortunately because I'm Indo the stretch mark is white and now there are a lot of tools now technology is advanced now, so it's

not lost, so now it's okay to use bikini. So that's how it is, but if you say there's no, it's impossible, my stress mark is quite a lot. Here, here, stomach, can we not be directed like that, we are talking about women with their skin because yesterday when I knew the team invited Kakaulan, I followed the face part, the face is crowded, right? No, why is this just like Yes. Why is it so bad? Why is it so bad?

The other day?

I had it. Actually, it's my problem since I was young. Since I was young, on and off, breakouts, scars, breakouts, acne, big acne, small acne, and then if it's skin type, my skin type is not like, my skin type is not so skin, but it becomes scar, becomes a scar. Actually, if you know, those around me know, it comes and goes, the breakouts, but every month, especially if the month comes, it must happen. to car, one more car, like that. So the last one was true? That's true.

On average, all this time I've been shooting mostly beauty, so it can be DI, if the photo is edited, right? Well, coincidentally in the viral film Norma, actually I'm honest, it's more organic, but there because at that time I was in a break out, it was really bad, so sometimes it was really bad, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's organic, but it's can and I think it's still smooth. Now, when in the normal movie, it's not long. I actually talked to the production house. He knows that this one has a different role.

It's rough. So it's the skin that really wants to be seen. But can I edited a little?

Can I not?

I even begged, there is a management, I asked. But, who doesn't know, maybe because of the role and so on, it's really right for that role. Yes, it's more real. Yes, but for this acne fighter, you know, that's insecurity. That's the thing that makes me the most not trust myself. Because it's been from adolescence, right?

The problem is that we experience being seen by people. I mean, if in the past, do you remember? The event is meeting fans. I'm most against meeting fans. Because? Yes, because people will know.

The real thing. True. True. So I don't want to. Later, if it's a little better and I can cover my makeup again, I want to. If the movie can be DI and edited, it doesn't matter.

People are so honest, right?

Yes, maybe because.

So now it's been unraveled well, before that too when it was unveiled, I mean when there were one or two who posted, oh, it's a normal movie, right? right? because I don't know why it was discussed there, all your skin yes, I didn't expect it

why is this the skin of the moon? but at that time, the debate was still 50-50, someone said why is the moon's face so gradual? second 50-50, someone said, why is Wulan's face so round? Second, the makeup is really good. It's a movie.

Okay.

So, it's made so similar to the skin texture, like the real person.

So, it's thought that it's a makeup.

Yes, so the makeup got a credit. The makeup is really good. Even when it premiered, my friends, when it premiered, I was already a little healed. Her face was really bad.

Her makeup was really good. I was just like, hmm, hmm, hmm. So it was like a bias? Maybe for some people it was a bias. Why? But for me, this is my insecurities from my youth, and this is what I have been covering up all this time.

When it was revealed, it was not revealed until now, only people around me knew, only my environment, Den. No one knows, the public knows, the face of the moon, the crescent moon, they don't know. I haven't seen social media for two days, it's true. Because, you know, when it was triggered, the trauma was triggered again. I haven't seen social media for two days because

you know

when I was triggered, the trauma triggered again I don't know where it hit me but I was really what is it, the anxiety was crazy what do people think people think the smooth moon

what is it what do I think because all this time you keep, you cover it, and actually even if you keep it, I'm still very, very grateful, because to hire me, there must be more effort and cost to DI and edit photos, especially in the film, because it's per second, if you edit, for example, the face, for example. It's really difficult. From my personal experience, and why did I finally, after that, it went viral, right? It was viral first. Then, why did I insist on, well, this is it.

Usually my campaign is anti-aging first.

Yes.

Finally, with this organic happening, maybe Zep also saw that this is actually a problem that happens a lot, and people just think it's just a skin problem, even though it gets into your mental health. There are children who are embarrassed to go to school, not focused on studying, their grades drop because they are seen, whispered, the face is hollow or what, right? Maybe I'm not that bad, but still it's just hit me sometimes when I want to work not focused because for example, in a meeting, what do people think? if you look at the moon on TV, the moon looks like this

looks smooth

so in the head, in the feelings, so I'm not focused and this is my goal, come here and get a meeting.

You're still in that phase.

Still. Still. Still. Even now, I've actually accepted it, I've been sincere, and now the skin is good. It's 70% healed. But those memories, those traumas, it's still in me.

It's still stuck, it's still in me. Maybe not at first, but it's been a long time. Yeah, if he suddenly approaches, at first it's like,

look at my face later, how is it? Is there something like that?

No, usually if it's like that, you already know from the beginning. So if he falls in love, for example, it means he already knows from the beginning.

Oh, compared to other people.

Yes, the environment, especially the work environment. Because maybe in the entertainment world, right? I'm being followed. Usually, what magazine photoshoot? Actors, like that. Followed by the actors, right?

Yes, young actors.

Yes, look left, smooth face. Look right, no pores. And it takes more time to do my makeup than them. Because I have to be covered only one to be covered. So, there is a burden on me. But I try to cover it by

working, working, doing my best, do more for others, that helps me a little bit, maybe even helps me a lot to forget my shortcomings. So I know my worth. My worth is not just my beauty and my skin.

This is your smart thinking.

But what are the other things you have? So I focus on that. Even though sometimes it still hits. Especially when it's a spiral. Wow. Oh, it turns out that...

I cried, I asked my management, what is this? What can I do? Can I close it? I don't have to pay. I don't know what. But, my management, my friends, I mean the ones who are close,

told me, you open social media, you just read the comments. It turns out 80% of them, it turns out that's not how it started, I didn't expect it, it turns out that all this time using filters, you know those things, 80% to 90% more angry and defending me,

angry and defending,

defending in the sense that it is not necessary to dismantle it or it is not supposed to reveal it or compare it. Maybe because now is the era of anti-bullying, anti-body shaming, things like that. So what defended me was to give my performance. Can you be like a 4-year-old, with that shape? Want to be a bully, want to do anything, I don't care, I still love him. Then there are other achievements.

So I finally read, again, since it's viral, how they didn't believe in themselves, how they lost their values. Their will to live can be lost. As it should be, in my position as a public figure, I'm perfect. I'm not perfect, this is my face. You're putting on a body.

Yes, look at my face. But I'm still moving forward, still motivated, still working, still doing my best. Don't listen to what people say. Focus on what you do. Later, all of that won't be seen. Because of that, finally, okay, I'll do this. For them.

For them who have the same experience as me, maybe more.

Your voice is shaking. I think this is true, right? This is true, Dan.

So sweet. But have you ever consoled all your traumas? Trauma can only be, we can regulate our emotions. So how we react will be different. Maybe, for example, before, if I triggered how can the reaction hurt other people again even though we don't mean it

but with our reaction actually it will be our trauma we even hurt other people our partner, our child maybe how we behave our reaction will be

we can only regulate that but if the trauma is gone, no. If I say.

So you're the type of scholar, right?

Talk about things that you feel upset about. Yes, because I want to cut the cord. I don't want my trauma, my behavior, from my trauma, later panama behavior. Aku akan a dairy trauma. Aku itu nanti, uh,

can I make a

orang orang to anarchy? Yeah,

yeah,

trauma trauma money. I'm gonna come over.

I see.

Lewatin.

I could do trauma.

Needy.

Tinggalin. Carakan. Memang,

uh,

memang,

did he go?

Lima? I feel like I'm not okay because after I grew up, I know I was left because of a reason not because my mom is an old person not because my parents are divorced my mom returned to England, my dad stayed in Indonesia I was in Indonesia, my two brothers were returned to England, my dad stayed in Indonesia. In Indonesia, my two younger siblings were brought to England. I didn't know what was going on between my mom and dad at that time.

Now I have a dialogue with my mom, I don't need to tell her the details. But after I went to school, on my healing journey, I also thought I would talk to my mom, because I wanted to know the answer why I was left behind. So, in the end, there.... So, I have empathy for him. He did it for a reason. Now, I have empathy for his journey.

He was also tortured to leave me. Sometimes, when we need answers, the answer is that the person has died. Right? Or the person can't be asked. Even though I was really scared at that time, Dan, to ask my mom. Yes, I have to do it.

Maybe like this. Even though actually, humans must have instincts. Why do we sometimes react too excessively to something? Maybe one of those first. have to do it. Yeah, but I think I'm thinking, I'm gonna get a break. See, probably beyond. I can't just walk through. I'm getting a little bit of a negative.

Can I tell you?

I was going to

know in the recent

video.

Okay.

Call it a t-shirt. I'm going to put a little on on or on. Yeah,

I'll be expert Expert. Expert for that. That's right. After we know, our trauma, we are still socializing, but we were not aware before and now the story is aware.

More aware.

So when we are triggered, we can hold ourselves first, slow down, stay silent.

Okay.

This is, uh, I'm angry now, I'm angry at what happened at that time, or this is my trauma.

You were angry first?

Yes, I was angry first. Okay, you were angry first. When I got home, I was journaling the changes. The reaction was direct, yesterday I was triggered again, how will my reaction be? So I was journaling there, and it will be ups and downs. But I have a note,

my awareness changes, my self, my trauma, and... And one more thing, it's okay if you're still triggered. Don't blame yourself, because everything needs to be processed. Take your time, step by step. Like that, right?

So, you can get through it slowly, eventually. Is there a trauma that you still can't get through? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. the I think this is my reaction to my trauma. It's my childhood trauma.

With him. My auntie... Maybe it's like a trauma of fear of being lost. So... It's hard to tell. The point is you're angry at losing him.

I'm angry at losing him, so I don't want to see him. He died, I don't want to see him. He's in the hospital, I don't want to see him. He died, I don't want to see him. He's in the hospital, I don't want to see him. Now, I'm sorry, I'm begging you. Yes, but you know it's wrong.

I mean, you love him.

I love him so much. You don't want to lose him, but the reaction you do is wrong. That's crazy, trauma can make us like that. And in the end, youted your reaction. Yes, at that time I felt that my action was safe for me.

Yes, yes, sir.

Now people don't regret it anymore.

So you blame yourself. Why I react that way. Which is I love him.

If you love him, you should react like this. If you really love him, when you're at the hospital, you will be accompanied. Yes, there was COVID at that time, but I was a beloved grandson, I can be said to be like a child, I was the number one grandson. Other grandchildren, even though COVID, when they die, they are limited. But we can use the APD.

But, I didn't want to.

This is your uncommon response.

That's right. But, in the end, it was a deep wound. It was like a new trauma that I had to heal. I had to accept it. I had to grieve. So, you have that kind of daddy issue too, right? In your life. Because I talked to my wife yesterday,

in Indonesia, there are a lot of people who have daddy issues. And it triggers a lot of their problems in the future. I said, yes, because they need to be led by a man, which is a man who doesn't have a good father figure in Indonesia. Maybe that's what you often find in a relationship. That's what makes you feel down, right?

Yes, right?

Because your mom is also a single parent, right? I'm also confused sometimes.

That's why yesterday, even though it's late, I want to do this for the future. Because I still want to be in a relationship. I want to have a healthy relationship. And I think the relationship that I had before was not successful because of my trauma. He didn't understand my trauma.

Maybe the way I handled it handle it triggers and vice versa. That's why I want to correct myself first. Because I often talk, usually girls ask me, maybe because they are trust, they say, how do I find a partner? What kind of guy is the right choice?

I said, that problem a problem for later.

I'll have to get used to it first. It will come to me later. It's like a magnet. You just realized that recently? Because you tried it the other way,

it didn't work.

It's late, but it's okay. It's not too late.

It's not too late. You're still hot.

There are many people out there. The same.

The main thing is for the kids. Yeah, that's the important thing.

But do the kids approve of a mother to have a partner in the future?

Not anymore. Especially London. You're very sport? Ask her to hurry up and find a husband.

Maybe because you're disturbing their lives. support. I'm spoiled by my children, oh my God People around me know that, so maybe that's it too Hurry to get married, if only boyfriend, different house They're the ones who are not snoring at night 24 hours Maybe they want to be mature again Now one is 15, one is 14, already have a boyfriend too I mean, not a boyfriend, but you know, someone close

Close friend Like Saturday night or something, or on a Sunday. It's like a business.

Yeah, yeah.

So, the one thing is, London really wants to have a younger sibling. Want to have a younger sibling. Is it possible, Mama? And I actually, if I'm given another child, I'm happy and want to have another child. But it depends on the age and the person. Seriously're happy and want to have another child. Seriously? But it depends on the age and the love. Seriously? You still want to have a child?

I've told you before, I've already rescheduled.

Oh yeah?

Yes.

IVF, right?

Yes, but if it's given, we want to try if we're not given, right? Yes, sincerely. It's okay, there are already three kids, but I want more, and my daughter, especially London, wants to have another sister, and I want to ask her to hurry up and find a husband, not a boyfriend, a husband, get married, hurry up.

Yes, so you can also So I said I was looking for a husband, not the same as finding a partner like people in general, with your positioning, your big name, you have a persona, you are also a smart person, you also have a... No, that's Dukun, smart people.

So not everyone has the courage to approach a woman. Not everyone. A little. The persona that is shown is a persona from work. But you can't blame it.

Yes, that's right.

But that's it, so you have to get to know first. If you don't know, it's not love.

Yes, yesterday there were many.

But before you know it, you're afraid. Yes, there are many people you know. I'm Yeah, I'm gonna be a little bit all my known all can come up and look up my watch I hear me come on the end it would Get even by Sunday public and can I can get it will and Brad Brad again? He look at them as company big because he being Padawi got Tony the cut up a pop up a demand I can get a man who's here. I'm a second Dulu in the process, nothing has been done.

It's annoying, it's not neutral, the relationship is not organic. That's why now many people choose to be silent, not even looked at on social media. Because actually people know it, like this, this face, people know, first, now it's smooth, sorry, repeat again, arrogant, yes, a long journey, if we don't reveal it ourselves, I mean, because I want it to be normal, it's not edited, try if in the film I'm still, I don't care what the role of the ladies from the village is, yes, it's not beautiful or smooth, but I don't want to know, I still want it to be smooth if I force it, it won't happen you didn't get to this phase

so there's a blessing in disguise too there's always a blessing in disguise when we face what we fear there must be a blessing in front of us but we don't know when it will happen right

that's why people are quiet now

suddenly posting engagement rings or we're married True. Yes, it's like that. That's why people are silent now, suddenly

posting engagement rings or we're married.

Yes, that's safer.

So it doesn't bother.

So it doesn't bother. Do you want it that way too?

Maybe it's better now.

It's better for you.

Yes, not covered by the environment. If the environment knows, because if the environment, I mean my environment knows. But for the public, You don't want to expose? No, I learned from the previous ones.

Okay.

Even though one day there will be someone who will expose it,

not to the darkness, it's okay.

Yeah, it's okay. It's not for me, right? It's not for me, and you can ask questions, what is this? But if it's from me, it's definitely a statement

and you will do it after it's clear after it's clear it means there is no clear I don't know

yes, there is no statement yet

clear means married

yes, I mean, have you met the right partner yet? no, maybe if you haven't met the right partner, I don't want to be exposed. Actually, the last one wasn't from me who wanted to expose. But at that time I felt okay. I mean, I wasn't forced either. At that time, it feels right.

But then we learn after that, it's better, because it ends, for example, it ends, so we talk about it again, there will be a new one, if it ends again, it's not good, so it's really a lot, so it's not good, so I have a problem with my butt, so I understand, so my child knows what happened to me. But maybe it's not for the public eye anymore.

I agree. Because if there are too many bad comments, it's not good for you and your children. So it's better to keep it.

Until it's really married.

More clearly. So is there anyone who keeps it now?

A little bit.

There is.

It's okay if there is, okay

You keep it

This is the answer

Yes That's the answer Okay

If the laughter is 2, yes If the laughter is 3, no

The world of entertainment is not

Oh no, if he agrees It's not no, if you agree, no, it's different, we were in the middle, twice, three times, okay, so a month now, the approach of love is more logical or emotional, both are still better now, if it was better, which feeling or logic,. Now? I don't want logic, but then... Still, there must be a feeling.

Let's see which one is ahead of him.

If for example, now with the experience I've had, I've learned a lot, one, two, three, four. Then, okay, I want to 100% rely on logic.

You can't. Because feeling is on logic. You can't.

Because feelings deceive. You can't either. Yes, and if we use feelings, I think...

Which one is more dominant?

I'm still more dominant.

Really?

Still feelings, because for me love is everything. Love can conquer everything. Feelings with logic, not feelings... But with our life experience, I think our feelings are not like the feelings we used to have. No logic, no healthy mind,

just a mess. I don't think it's like that anymore, Den. So, the main thing is feelings. If a man wants to get close to you,

what should they do?

What I want is a man who really be himself.

Okay.

And I can be myself. So we can really understand each other. What if someone is covered? But with that, we can understand each other. What if someone covers it? But with that, we can understand each other. We can really learn from each other. Okay, so it's open.

I think if you're at this age, and I'm also looking for a partner who is the same age, you've asked me before, I'm looking for someone, but I don't know if I'm going to be given one. If I'm given one, I can give it to him, if I can give it to him, I will give it to him. It can be younger, it can be older, it can be older. But for me, the ideal that I dream of is the same age.

The same age, of course.

Yes, the same age. So we are still at the same level in what? In thinking, in energy. I'm the couple is really far apart when I was dating younger guy

so

you have to follow his page no, my social media also appeared a lot of things like that because we are following our news so there are stories from all over the world that the couple is different ages and successful yes, the couple of different ages, the successful one. Yes, the pace is there.

So if we summarize, does this person tend to feel lonely too? I think so. I'm sure everyone has been there. Is the percentage of loneliness high?

Not at the moment.

Not at the moment, because there are more jobs, right? Not just that, we already know ourselves.

Oh, so you know yourself better.

Yes, so we know, we understand more what we like, what we don't like, life targets, goals, plans, whatever it is, so we are not lonely anymore. I have people I love and people that love me. But you must have calculated, right?

My three children are definitely adults.

They will be married soon. Who am I to them?

Actually, with my life journey, I feel lonely if I don't have a husband anymore. It could be no. I don't know. Because I'm still in the phase of experiencing a lot of things. I don't know if I can live with my husband, I don't know. Because I'm still in the phase of living my life. If it's now, I want to have another partner. A real partner, not just a boyfriend.

But I don't know later.

You don't know later.

But I want that. So you walk with ... and there are people who are happy, really happy, not pretending, happy with themselves. There is, and I believe that women can really live alone and happy. Yes. They always find a way. And what Denny said, while he's still young, still... He's afraid of being regretful. There are people who meet their soulmate on their parents' day.

There are.

So, it can't be a benchmark. So, now I'm living my life. I know what I want. So, I'm trying to go there, I pray to go there, I pray for the details of what I want, and we'll see what Allah and this universe will give later. netizen kami yang kalau harus jawab dan ini pertanyaan-pertanyaan cukup deep ya mana keluarga pertanyaan-pertanyaannya pertanyaan dari netizen kami dari sisi entertain ya kamu kan udah lama di dunia entertain hal yang paling brutal yang pernah kamu alami versinya seorang wulan di dunia entertain shooting sampai berapa jam atau pernah di industri filmnya iya mungkin itu working hours bener banget I'm Yes, it's not good either. I've been home in the sun, I've been there. For example, we never slept for 24 hours. So, from bright to bright again.

You don't want that. But now, there are many associations, many rules and regulations. Restricting things like that to happen but even though it still happens

have you ever

been angry at your location?

come on, be honest

I went home went home but you were angry when you went home

not expressing

the thing is, if people have worked with me they know that when I was in a project, it's like I'm my own child. You put your heart there. Yes. I enjoy every second of it. If I'm angry, it means I'm really disappointed.

I don't need to be told anything, but I'm really disappointed and maybe I've been angry over and over again. the young you said those words out loud not anymore? I think I used to, not anymore

not anymore? now you prefer to... I'll go home

yes, or discuss

oh, discuss now

ok, I understand but you used to be angry and said those words out loud that were...

rude

no, not rude

no, but it was high angry, yes a snake is angry I want to play with a snake Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yes, he called a guy. Yeah, but it didn't yeah, so I'm gonna get

Some way and I like it to have tina pasilla cut a young and young and I like I remember Morning, I got a menjaga happy young fragile. Yeah, but fit for school. Okay, what is the definition of success according to a person's mood now? What was your definition of success in the past? Yes, the definition of success is external validation. Our standard, right?

I'm pretty.

A lot of money. My partner is cool.

It looks like what we have. But now maybe those things are important. Maybe, My partner is cool. It shows how we look, what we have. But now, maybe those things are important. Maybe we also need money. Because it's for life, to support our lives.

But now, success for me. I can balance being a mother. And still be able to chase my dreams and success.

Okay, so balancing.

Balancing, yes. Balancing is the most difficult. And it's hard.

It's hard to be a single parent, especially in a woman's position.

Yes.

What is the love language of the Goritno snake? Wow, I'm really curious.

What, where are you more, Wak?

Physical touch.

Oh, like Olive.

And quality time

I'm quality time Physical touch? When there's a touch, you feel comfortable? It's easy to do it

Yes

Like a cat

So when you're angry you just hold it and it's done Oh, that's how you calm down. People know that snakes are sexy. I don't know if making snakes is a compliment or a sarcastic way to hurt.

Are you happy to be called sexy?

I'm positive.

Positive, right?

Because, what is it?

You like it, right? There's no other word, what is it?

Healthy. For example, I like sports. I also want to inspire mothers, how can your body turn around?

How can you be healthy?

How can you be fit? Then later, your grandson at birth, you don't just sit and watch him run, but you run with them. And it has to be built from the beginning. So, your grandson, when he was born, you didn't just watch him run, but you also ran with them. And that has to be built from the beginning. Your muscles, and everything. And from there, there's the word sexy.

Yeah, whatever.

So, the direction is to a positive sex. Yeah, you don't have to feel that. I've never felt like a sexy that's have to feel it. I've never felt said sexy that leads to weird things. Yeah, no. I don't want to feel that.

If it's a positive sexy, it's okay. Sexy is healthy. Like your skin problem, right? So it's decided to be better. But I want to ask,

your skin was good yesterday because of this primary Zap-Zap. and it's more beautiful. But I want to ask, did you get a better skin because of the primary ZAP? No, I'm serious.

Yes, why would you lie?

What did you do with them?

What I saw was different. I came here once every two weeks. Every time I got out of the ZAP, I got a bruise. I didn't get the chemical treatment yet. The hole was deep. And after I learned by the doctor, my scar is not just one kind, there is a bump,

the term is, there is a box-shaped, round, deep, then like ... Oh, this doctor has come, it turns out that he has come.

There is.

Be careful, let it pass first.

Sorry, sorry.

Hey, let it pass. There is a doctor, drink first. Yes, yes, thank you. There's a doctor. Drink first. Thank you. Is your name Dr. Dara? That's right.

This Dr. Dara is a specialist in aesthetics.

That's right.

We were talking about the problem of the face.

The project seems to be held by many doctors. That's right. It's a new project. What is it like in Zep sendiri?

In Zep sendiri, it's actually like a face. I think the project was handled by many doctors That's right That's if... It's a joint project

Yes

What... In ZEPP itself, what is it like?

The treatment for the skin problems there

Hmm, okay

Actually, we... I'll give a disclaimer first So, I think this call to us We talk more, right? Ask what the problem is What do you want to solve? Well, then when we talk more, ask what the problem is, what do you want to solve? Then when we talk, it's not even a consultation, we talk more,

then we see the problem is also the scar acne.

And the skin barrier.

Yes, the skin barrier is also not good. We have also asked if we've received treatment before. The authority told us that they've been doing a lot of treatment for quite a long time, but the progress is not very visible.

Yes, that's often.

That's right. Well, from there, we were challenged.

Why didn't we tell the authority that we would help with the healing healing process and there is a time frame

So it's a project

Yes, if it's a project, it's a project

Roughly speaking, it's a project

There is a time frame

How long was it?

At that time, we really told the authority to do 5 treatments How long is 5 treatments? That's why the target is 5 treatments It's just one treatment, 4-, but it's just 1 treatment. 4-5 treatments are just a bunch of... Oh, so you're really getting hit by the treatment.

So usually, 5 treatments are 2 weeks, 1 month. So we do adjust it to the downtime. And we also have activities, so everything is adjusted. So if we say treatment in ZEPP, we must first ask the patient's goals. The perception must be the same. Don't expect the patient and the doctor to be different.

That will be complicated. During the examination, we can see that the condition of the face is indeed scarred, as the patient said. It turns out that we call it multi-scar, there is an ice peak, the ice peak is a scar that is really deep, then there is a box scar, there is a rolling scar, cool, right?

it's all kinds of, all kinds of, right, so all kinds of Scar Agnes are the term on Kaulan's face, although it's not all full, but all kinds So from the acne, it produces many scar shapes, even though it is not pressed That's right, because I've been wanting to ask, I've asked, but I haven't got a good answer yet Because more, if other people don't Not yet, so the healing of each person is different No, because it's more. Why not for other people? Well, it's not certain yet.

So, the recovery of each person is different. One of the factors that makes the recovery of the kidney of the kidney is not good is that yesterday we checked the lab. Laboratory. That's why we say the treatment or project we do to the kidney is holistic. Holistic is in general, we also check the lep.

You mean you take the skin and you see the prospect?

No, we do the blood test. We see what's there, there's cholesterol, it affects a lot of growth of the urethra. Then we also check the sugar. Sugar affects high inflammation.

Yes, there must be a lot of sugar.

No, there isn't. sugar is highly inflamed yes, it's because of the sugar no, it's not this is what happens to most women in Indonesia vitamin D deficiency that's what happens most often yes, most often and vitamin D is actually good for recovery

because the problem is vitamin D deficiency automatically recovery for the agnes for the agnes is more difficult. So the treatment is not perfect. That's why she left the scars that we call Agnes scar or the scar of the acne.

Why is it different? There are ice peaks, there are rolling scars. It depends on where it is. And usually the treatment, maybe there is a treatment that is done but it is not perfect either. That's what causes the scars to be different.

Yes, it's like messy, depending on the contour of the face too.

That's why for scars treatment like that, it has to be... Oh, you really understand, right?

Wow, wow.

It's really cool.

You're a skin doctor too, wow.

I'm in Korea because it's practical. The skin is good. It's practical, right? Not really.

Well, because of the many Scar acne that we have, there are also many treatments that we make. How many treatments are there? More or less, maybe up to five types of treatments, which we make one, then there are treatments, treatments, in one time we do it together. Well, because of this, if every doctor, we say, we have to do it together, we make one, then we do treatment, treatment, and then we do it together.

Because, every doctor, we say that aesthetics is more to beauty, technique, and so on. That's why we finally made a team for this project. We have dermatologists, there are three dermatologists, one of them is me. What is the plan for the future for this group? With 5 treatments, there will be results. We even promised 80% of the results.

Because the type of carrier that is variative is very difficult.

That's right.

And you have to be extra.

That's why we made a team, then we did the treatment. Before we do the treatment, let's explain to the Before we do the treatment, we explain to the patients first What kind of treatment we will do And maybe the downtime will occur after the treatment Because seeing the patients, there are quite a lot of activities We have to know that too

For patients, not only the patients, but all patients will also be informed Like the patients, we have made a laser Erbium laser Erbium laser and we also have Pico we have also done it

and we have also done DNA Salmon injection DNA Salmon injection for recovery and regeneration and we also have Ultrasound

and that is

to speed up the skin barrier of polypores there was also an ultrasound yesterday that's really scary

it also speeds up the skin barrier

really

I think it's more than that yes, right then there is also a subcissive then there is also a cross TCA subcissive is actually the purpose because if the agnes scar is usually

we call it a scar network or a dead network that sticks inside we have to cut it, right? That's why we have to substitute. But so that it doesn't stick anymore, the healing doesn't make it stick, we fill it with DNA Salmon. So that it's really good.

Well, that's the kind of thing. That's why after the treatment, the face is usually swollen.

It's like, oh my.

But if the treatment is good, the drown time is fast we can see that, but it depends on the skin too

because there are some skins that are long

except for the CO2 fractional, it's a bit long because it's like this it's really far, I want to laugh

it should not be explained again

I understand If for Bulan alone, with you having this ZEPP alone

Honestly, what does it mean for you now? Healing, healing feels How is it? Healing feels easier it, healing feels easier.

Oh, healing feels easier.

And the key is patience. One day, you will find the right place or place that supports you, that is suitable for your journey, your skin care journey is to find a good home and a good person. That's how it is. You need to be patient and have faith. I also think that skin care is a good thing.

And the clinic is also a good thing. But we are afraid to go through that journey, we are afraid, you know? Because every time we end up in one clinic, it doesn't get better, it can get worse.

Right?

Yes.

I was there because of the treatment. I saw how they serve other guests because they do care. They want to fix the problem. And I saw other guests who came. We feel like ZEPP is like a home,

like a family. A family that cares about us. Is there a video of you when you're in the operating room? Yes, like family. A family that cares about us. Is there a video of you when you were in Jobra Kabrik?

Yes, there is.

We'll ask for it later.

The mini series.

The mini series.

The journey where I was tired. I was followed by the camera, I was bleeding for a long time. If you want to see me angry, it's there. Can we not shoot today? I'm bleeding too, I'm getting old. If you want to see me angry, it's right there. Can we not shoot today? I'm really tired. Ready if so.

For all of you who have problems. So Zep is not just a beauty clinic. But you can also be friends for everything. And be sure that insecure is not the end of the story. Welcome to an younger age,

face to face. face to face. Thank you, Ulan.