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I from New York. It's a show that finally beat a playoff team. My goodness gracious. The Patriots finally played a playoff game. Congrats KW. It's a monumental moment. It's a good win. Wow. Thank you guys. It's a good win and it's like you'll always remember your first. Playoff win? Drake May's first playoff win. It's like a real moment. First everything. Yeah. That was great. I was legit happy for you. Thanks, Scott. Well, why were you sending sarcastic texts? Well, because you needed a little comeuppance

and you got it. Because Drake May looked like he felt like the game was a little different than normal.

He played bad for him.

Shaky for a half.

A B minus.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right.

That's about fair.

Yeah, that's right. That's about fair. Yeah, that's right.

We're starting with the former champs. They fall, and they are not getting back up. Philly done after, believe it or not, the offense sputters and stalls. Jalen threw for 168, completed fewer 15-yard passes than Jawan Jennings, who does not play quarterback.

Great in high school.

Four stars. yard passes than Juwan Jennings who does not play quarterback. Great. Yeah.

Four star.

Four star. I had a Burrow and Lamar coming out of high school.

Was he?

Yes.

Yeah.

And Sam Darnold. Yeah. First three drives, I'm like, yeah. Eagles flip the switch. The 49ers defense is very gettable. Saquon's back.

182 total yards. Yeah. 182 total yards. Yeah, no puns look like that 13 points in the first three drives rest of the game six points

125 total yards here for punts Nick. Are you surprised the Eagles came up short? I I Do not know how anyone Who's watched the NFL all year? Could be surprised by this. They might be disappointed. It might be not what you predicted was going to happen, but not like, I am shocked that a team that for four months couldn't score more than 20 points against a playoff team,

that for four months had a bad passing game, that for four months was getting the play in late to where the operation was hurried at the line of scrimmage and for a couple years has had a real problem with their wide receiver ones combustibility would play a playoff game where they don't score 20 points where they get the plays in late where they have no continuity to the passing game and where the wide receiver and the head coach for no reason whatsoever get into

it on the sideline. The Eagles offense. If I may we're back with banners, but banners are kind of the chiefs thing. So if I may a little homage to the previous defending Super Bowl champs, the Eagles offense failing them again, never a doubt. I don't know how anybody could watch how the Eagles season came to an end

and be surprised that that's how it came to an end. And I think, Brew, that the biggest reason for optimism about the Eagles in this game was more about pessimism about their opponent's defensive ability.

Yes. Yes.

It wasn't. I don't think many people thought that, you know what, they're definitively going to flip a switch, playoff mode. It's that maybe they would do that, but even if they didn't do that, the Niners are so banged up and so undermanned that they're not going to be able to slow them down. But as it turns out, no matter how undermanned you are, if the guy calling the defense is Bob Sala and the guy calling the offense is Kev Petulo and the guy executing it is what was this year a, I think a struggling at times Jalen Hurts and a guy who couldn't fix it on his own.

You're gonna score 13 to 19 points week in week out and you gotta hope that's

enough. Yeah, they have so many advantages. That's what surprised. Oh wow. Patriots time already. I apologize.

Sorry. Wow.

No, we're not going to allow this.

Patriots coverage coming up in about 15 minutes. Right now, back to the Eagles, gentlemen. Thank you very much. 15 minutes to the Patriots. There's going to be a new Super Bowl champ. The Eagles are not going to repeat.

Gentlemen, you can play us off again. I apologize. Do you?

Go ahead.

Pubs, can you grab the door? Guys, you can take us off.

I apologize.

We've been interrupting door guys. You can take us off.

I apologize.

We've been interrupting.

I think you do.

I apologize.

You do that 15 minutes.

That was coverage of the team in the century.

I didn't know that was happening Patriots are back. But right now we need to guys. We need to regroup. We need to regroup and talk about the Eagles. We're on the Eagles.

I was fully prepared for that to happen. We need to regroup. We need to regroup and talk about the Eagles. We're on the Eagles.

I was fully prepared for that to happen. As soon as I started talking about the pain.

I'm sorry, not that.

Yeah, sorry back to the Eagle.

But the thing you're right. It's not shocking, but they I said last week, this would be a devastating law.

It was devastating.

I agree with that. Because the Niners just the talent level because of the injuries is so much in the favor of the Eagles. They're at home where they were 5-0 under Sirianni and then with George Kittle going down. Yeah. But as you said it showed that both teams did what they've been doing all year. Yeah. The Niners executed tremendously, got creative. The coaching staff maximized their players, and they played with heart and guts, made big plays.

The Eagles played a half. Now, obviously, they didn't light it up in the first half. But all year long, they have, in their best games, it's been one really good half and one bad or mediocre half. Starting from day one, the Cowboys, week one, they come out, look great in the first half.

Second half, Cowboys end up making it a game. The Rams, the Buccaneers, some of their best wins, that was the case. I did think Jalen would play better, like because he's been so good and big moments, but it also came down to this Nick and this might be the

absolute reason they lost this game. Their stars did not make plays. I knew and the Niners stars deal. I knew a J Brown. No, no, I have he is a great player. But when you make such a stink about getting the ball, you can't do this. You can't. I think we have video. You can't drop that. Now, it's not an awesome pass. It didn't hit him

right in the numbers or anything but when you're one of the best receivers in the league and you talk all the time about wanting the football, you can't drop that. Now, if you don't make noise about it, people will overlook it.

But you can't drop that, and that's a big moment.

And he had, listen, he had a few. Right. That was the worst one. The one down the sideline would have been a really good catch. But he like he didn't there, but that one right there was devastating.

A player of his not that every player you always make those but even you said the tough catches a player of his. Now this one was a little out of reach short, but still

catchable. I mean, that's a tough one, but he was awful. Yeah. And again, you can't this is the one I was.

Yeah, this is it. Now a player as good as him the best receivers in the league

make this catch most of the makes that catch most of the time. I the listen he and I think that one that we're showing right here this third down. That was about two minutes left. And I think that was the only're showing right here this third down. That was about two minutes left and I think that was the only

target he got after he and Sirianni yelled at each other After that happened he was gone from the game from the game and

you did that can't have it. Devontae Smith dropped the pass

with 48 seconds left Devontae

was a little tough too. But again these are great.

You feel like that is less I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I, out of nowhere, was like, if you don't go to me to start the next show, I'm gonna like flip out. And then, that would never happen. And then you do, and I freeze up and don't know what to say. And like, it's worse than if you just do it naturally.

And I just don't have my nicotine patch on.

Is there anything to the fact that guys were dropping balls all weekend? All weekend, guys had drops. But it feels like AJ Brown's drops were magnified. Yeah, because of what Nick said. I don't view it as all AJ Brown, though.

You think Sirianni was yelling at him?

I just feel like Sirianni never got controls. He never was able to put out the brush fires that were always percolating on the team. Well, now it got to this magnified moment and AJ drops one and then I feel like he gets in his head and again one drop can lead to another. I don't know. But in a lot of it on Sirianni and I know the last few weeks.

It wasn't really a lot of noise made about that. I mean, we just remember it from obviously last year, but the beginning of this season, and then AJ started putting up numbers even as they were losing, and it kind of went away.

Do you think this was an indictment on Jalen Hurts?

I don't think it was an indictment on Jalen Hurts,

but...

it was this whole season was a step backwards. I mean, definitely. And so it doesn't mean he can't, you know, continue on what was a very odd but Hall of Fame trajectory. Yeah. But it does mean that some of the man, doesn't matter how it looks,

that guy just wins and figures it out. Sheen wears off a bit now the person but Jalen to me Had a much had earned a much larger benefit of the doubt than the other main characters involved

I think this is a oh, yeah, absolutely

disaster of a season for Nick Sirianni and I the listen how you think I don't think he's getting fired. I do not think he's getting fired They need to get a better OC and we'll see here if they did fire him. I Would not come on TV and say that's outrageous and there are eight jobs open I do not think he would get one of them. Well, I don't be in the running. I think you'd be in the right the the get one of them. Well, I think he'd be in the running. I think he'd be in the right. The the the nervousness about firing

your head coach is like, man, you fire John Harbaugh. Okay, five teams in one second. You fire Matt LaFleur. Six is a team might fire their coach to hire him. That I do not believe would happen to Nick Sirianni and where I think Nick Sirianni deserves blame is Kevin Petula was his guy. He needed to make the hard decision and move on from him. And it was never working.

It didn't work.

It was never working.

It didn't work from the get-go.

If you weren't going to get your arms around AJ Brown, then you needed to tell Howie Roseman, we need to trade this guy at the deadline.

They now regret that, I'm certain of it. Well, I think that they should certainly look into trading AJ this summer. And look, I'm not tripping over the sideline argument. Stuff happens. I mean, I don't think that… I'm serious.

I'm not tripping over it. Listen, I didn't trip over it with Andy.

It didn't happen this weekend.

It happened… You mean with other teams? I'm not saying it happens every game. I just saw a love fest. But every time two guys get in an argument.

I mean, I can't kill it because Andy and Travis, you know, Andy and Travis had an assault on the sideline. But, and, but Travis then made big plays and they won. Like sometimes it's, you know, that is what it is. Like, I think, I'm surprised you're giving him a pass. I mean, I'm giving I'm just saying I don't automatically know that that is they hate each other. No, no because of that. I mean,

that stuff happens. I'm just not winning culture though. You can't show me this week. Nick just talked about how it happened with Travis. Kelsey and that was a one. That was a one off. So I don't need time. Brady ever go off on so teammates. Yeah, but Bill Belichick is not Nick Siri. So that's the thing. No Brady. So I know but Sirianni and your coach. It's just weird

leadership. His issue brew is not with the interaction happening. It's that the head coach initiated it that part. I am

well, he now whether it's true Sirianni said he was telling him get off the field, you know, just because it was a delay a game or time

Watch out. We're gonna get off the field. Here's what we do know though. Okay. I'm oh another banner listen Defending your titles not for everybody We just know it. Hey not everyone suffers. Listen Some teams some teams now can make defending their title. No, I'm just telling you. No, no.

Listen, I'm sorry.

Because the Eagles lost, the Chiefs did not get any.

What do you mean?

The Chiefs didn't make the playoffs. They can't make it. Hold on a second. Who's the only team to go back to back in the last 20 years? Still the Chiefs? Is that record going to stay intact this year? I'm just curious. I'm just saying

some teams make your teams win a Super Bowl and then either go back and lose or win the next Super Bowl. Some your patriots that's who they were. They would win the Super Bowl, go back the next year, win or lose it. That's who they were. But nobody is nobody was mistaking the Eagles for

the Chiefs. Or Hertz for Mahomes or Siri. I know. Well, maybe you were.

I don't know.

You're on your read.

What's the next banner?

I don't have any.

That's for San Francisco. CMC had two touchdowns. Purdy threw to the Quinion Mitchell's not on his team, but did generate enough offense to make it work.

You want Jennings to see him

see there. What was the number one reason Brute the 49ers won in your mind? Well, I'm gonna go back to what I said with the Eagles. The Eagles big names did not play well and make the big plays. We saw some of the drops and the Niners did and even some of their non big names. Yeah, did Marcus Robinson.

Chiefs legend, Super Bowl champion.

Right, he was with the Chiefs.

But this dude has played 10 years. Yeah. Only two times in his career, his 10 year career. Had he ever caught more than 100 yards received or 100 yards even receiving. He had 111 I think yesterday and obviously got the game off on a great route way for the Niners in his first play where he had 58 yards, yards. Yeah, several of his yak yards after catch. So he stepped up made some other big plays

Christian McCaffrey only kind of like his season 15 carries 48 yards, three yards of carry. He was just kind of like the workhorse that breaks them down a little bit and then had the two receiving touchdowns. And one, the one off the Jawan Jennings throw was a great catch.

Some receivers, I'm not saying they couldn't make that catch, but some receivers may have dropped that ball for a running back. And Jennings, give Jennings credit, because he knew he was going to get hammered. For a non-quarterback.

Also, is that Roughing the pipe. Oh, I for the record.

I don't think it was.

Well, what in the world?

I don't blame Jalen Carter there because it's like, wait, he's the he's not the quarterback. I know he's throwing. Can we have no?

That's true.

That would have been like I can clock this guy. See him running. And CMC running it. But it's still even if it was a quarterback, but imagine if that pass is dropped and it's like 15 yards automatic first down. I'd be living but that it is.

Yeah.

So just pretend to pass at any

point.

They both step up and even Jenny's look. We know he was a four-star quarterback in high school, but still to throw that ball. He threw a dime knowing he's about to get nailed. And you have a use check. I mean, how you like he when Kittle

went out, he kind of be he became one of their main targets and he made some great catches. But I got to give some credit to Brock Purdy. And I'm like, seriously, I know he threw the two picks. He's a gunslinger. He throws in the tight windows. Most of the times it works. Some of the times it doesn't and that's when he gets his interceptions, but he came back from it. Obviously, led the game winning drive and here's

the thing with Purdy and I've talked. I said it last week. He's never had a bad. He hasn't been great in all of them. It hasn't had a bad playoff game in seven games and he's five and two in his five wins. Nick four of them game winning drives and here's the graphic. There's two guys with multiple game winning drives since 2022

when Purdy entered the league pretty good. Mahomes with five Purdy with four. No one else has even two. So the dude, you know, and his mobility is a big key to you saw yesterday buckle up, able to wear your helmets on for this

one. You're not going to believe it.

You killing party.

I'm tipping my cap to per. Oh, oh, I games like yesterday. Make me a bully open to changing my mind.

What?

I'm telling you.

What is it?

Three years.

You're just three years.

A super bowl.

I'm open to four game when he drives in the playoffs.

You're open to it.

So much.

So I made an even not a better but a different complimentary birdie graphic because what's the knock on Shanahan? You can't if they if you are trading in the fourth, you're dead. Yeah, you are dead. And that to me has always been about he has had civilians not superheroes at quarterback. So if it's on script and everything's rolling, but if it's like man got a pass

situation, what are you going to do? Can't do it. Party's been able to do it. So like yesterday, did it without

any of this except McCaffrey

under Shanahan down entering the fourth quarter. All the other quarterbacks are six and 36. Purdy's won four games like that. I understand four and 14 looks bad. That's not bad.

Like that is the only Brady and Mahomes in league history are even close to 500 or above. Mahomes is above Brady's right around it for trailing entering the fourth quarter. Out of all the awesome graphics. No, but look at the bottom.

Hold on, look at the bottom. Hold on. Look at the bottom. Two wins. Now, it's two wins. We're down six plus. Everyone else is Owen 30. Every other Shanahan. That's what I'm talking about. Shanahan quarterback. Yeah. And so,

Shanahan, that's like you said, that's been the

remarkable. Like he, yes, he made mistakes, but that guy is fearless. And he, one of the reasons he throws those picks is because he believes himself so much, which can be a problem. But because he believes himself so much, he's like, we're fine.

And so I think that plus what is, I think the greatest coaching season in Shanahan's career is why they're still here.

We'll see how far they can go.

And look, he's never, every time he's made the playoffs,

he's gotten at least made the conference championship. All right we've got to head to Chicago Bears with yet another magical comeback seventh win of the year when they were down with two minutes to go or an overtime Caleb manufacturers twenty five twenty five fourth

quarter points.

Danny Parkins was in the

building.

Oh old classic.

What did Caleb prove.

Listen he's

at the very least moving forward. He's the best quarterback in that division

and pending. If Matt Stafford retires all think he's the best quarterback in his conference. Really? Really? Yeah. I mean, I thought he is you can maybe you guys didn't say that's too far, but I believe fourth quarter. Yeah, I will listen. I believe last only going to get better and the things he is great at you can't teach the things he's shaky at. I think are the easiest to teach and the things we were worried about like maturity leadership. His teammates love him. I thought

he gave the single most cogent on-field post-game interview I can remember. It was like four minutes long talk.

You had that ready to go.

Right. But it just showed. I thought his post-game. You didn't think like the frustrated. I know it's all great because they won, but he looked very frustrated.

No, I do think he is very emotional. And he can ride that emotional roller coaster. I think he will improve on that. OK. And like it is to me he is now on the trajectory of what his trajectory was when he was drafted. Generational number one pick because this play on fourth and eight brew it might be the single.

It is in the running for best. Given the context of it. If he doesn't hit the throw, they lose the playoff game. They ended up winning it. The difficulty of it, all of it. It's as good of a throw as a player's made since I've been doing this show. It's a great like and so drop it in there. I mean between three it's impossible hackers. Yeah. And so I just I I am and their

ability to be down double digits. It's a dangerous way to do business off. Oh but there are three and three now down 10 in the final

five minutes of a game. The rest of the league is three and one fifty nine. And so that's some kind of that's some number. 10 in the final five minutes of a game. The rest of the league is three and 159. And so that's some Caleb. That's some number. Yeah, it's not all him, but it's no, you don't it's takes advantage of the opportunities. It's a dangerous

way to do business, but he's so remarkably gifted and he's learning how to do the other stuff. Like they don't have the process errors anymore. The pre-snap stuff, they cleaned it up. He's still inaccurate.

I think he'll clean that up.

He's very inaccurate and misses some, like he only completed 50% of his passes. Some of his throws you like, but he is dynamic. And this is a huge compliment for me. Late in that game, I felt a feeling like it's generally been reserved for Patrick Mahomes.

Yep. Like when it was late, I felt like, man, they about to score. Yep. They're about to score. And I think you can argue, Nick, and it's why I wouldn't say he's definitely the best quarterback in the division yet, because I think Jordan Love was fantastic with the four touchdowns. He was great. Almost three yards. And even though I think it's arguable who will be better next year, we'll see. Certainly, Caleb is more dynamic and his ceiling is higher.

But Jordan has played great this year and was great yesterday or over the weekend. But I didn't feel that way with him having that ball in that last drive. It's not all J-Lo, but I didn't feel like, I was like, I didn't think they were gonna score. And maybe they will, and we'll see,

and I'm hoping, because that was my team, my pick in the preseason, but Caleb, I felt like, they're scoring. And so, he is clutch, and that is something, I mean, whether it's basketball, we see Reggie Miller, Robert Ory, and football, Mahomes. Like, some guys just have that, and he obviously has it.

And Nick, if he does, which you would think he will, because of the great improvement he's made this year. If he loves Ben Johnson, we saw in the locker room, he praised Ben Johnson for what he's done for him. If he just can nail down the little things,

He throws a cannon, like, and that's why. Look at the wrist that has the power of anybody's throw. The only downside to this is you guys don't know what a generationally bad winner Danny Parkins can

be.

He has no experience with team success. He was out here.

Let's see.

Danny, you're on it.

Shows in 90 minutes.

Not even looking.

This guy on Howard show today.

He's feeling.

Chicago.

So watch his his clips. That's what he said.

This is what he said.

We owe his Pope Bob from the South Side. He went to the World Series for the White Sox. He thinks he's watching Danny's clips. Then he was listening to my highly rated show on the score back in the day. By the way, Chicago says, what up, Chicago?

Great win.

This guy's wearing sunglasses inside and at night. You said never adapt, which is a cheap thing.

Have you seen the Blues Brothers? It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. We're on a mission from God. We got the Pope on our side. And by the way, is there a clicker for me? Yes, it's over here.

It's over here.

I got a banner.

I got a little something for you.

You're going to block it.

Sorry, I thought it was going to be over here.

I equ sorry. I thought it was going to be over here. I equate.

Here's the thing.

Greatness. You compared him to Mahomes. Reggie Miller. That felt. The Reggie stuff.

No, but I was playing off of Nick Sampson.

He's not Mahomes. In the history of basketball, who do you want taking a shot late?

A goat.

MJ.

What is this one?

Caleb.

His airness. shot late. A go in jail, what is this one. Caleb real is there.

So the. I was what I would prove that I was right.

This.

But the animation. A Chicago Goat, baby! Caleb, Mike, and me!

That's too far! That's too far!

I didn't go far enough!

I didn't go far enough!

Bear down, baby!

Fun fact, did you know that the Patriots have only beaten three playoff teams? My goodness! The third being the Chargers last night,. Some people said they wanted the Patriots.

Oh, okay.

I wanted you to score more than three points. Poor Drake didn't look like his MVP self. My goodness gracious.

Still had 340 total yards.

Dominated.

Eh, dominated probably a little much.

Regardless. I agree it was fun. I do not think you should keep trying to throw the ball when guys are grabbing your jersey. First half, not great. I started to get some mean tweets. Kept my cool, kept my composure. Second half, passer rating shot up to 142. He didn't run the ball as much, but he had some back-breaking plays. Greg, question to you. Is it time to admit that Patriots are a scary squad?

Because a long time ago, we weren't getting any respect the schedule. Yeah, I was

giving the team respect. Look, they're a scary team.

Thank you, Greg.

That was good, though. I agree with that.

That was the rarest thing on sports.

I won't stop answering.

You gotta just let him do his thing.

You did it to me.

You pointed. I didn't know he was going to do it. He got me early. You have always supported Drake Mays, so I appreciate it.

You're on the doorstep of destiny, fellas.

Welcome back.

Greg, as you were.

Look, they've been a scary team. I think the number one thing you talked about, we looked at their schedule and who they didn't

play and the teams that they weren't on their schedule and who they didn't play and the teams that they weren't on their schedule and that they didn't have an opportunity to play and we measured them according to that. The reality is in that locker room, they believe that they have one of the best teams in football and so regardless of who was gonna be coming in this weekend, they felt like they had a great

chance because of the guy under center. You, we, we see the numbers to support what he was in the first half, second half. I absolutely loved what we saw. Him actually showing some, showing a little bit of adverse situation. It got a little shaky, a little, little, oh my gosh, is Drake gonna actually be bad? And then he overcame it.

The defense, something that you've alluded to, in the red zone. How about this, Wiles?

I was shocked.

Gave up nothing.

I don't know what happened.

It was the opposite of what you wanted.

It was the absolute opposite.

We are not good in the red zone, and we are not good getting to the quarterback. Great in the red zone, great at getting to the quarterback.

It was a phenomenal game to watch. This was a team that came out almost as if Vrabel leaned into the fact that guys, this is what's being said about us. We got to go and prove that this is not the case that we are not good enough because of who we've played and this is a team that set their starters set their quarterback and acts acted like we want you loved it. We can beat you and so let's go and show them that this is not what they want and

they did that. So listen II agree with the vast majority of that because what make there were two teams this weekend whose star quarterbacks played poorly by their standards and they want anyway and that makes those teams scarier. Yeah, the Rams and the Pats, to me. If you, unless you think that's who,

those quarterbacks are gonna be the rest of the playoffs, you're like, ah, it's a bad game or in May's case, Butterflies, whatever it was, because I didn't, I disagree with you guys a bit about, oh, in the second half you fixed it. Because they're up 13 in the game's over unless you turn the ball over

and Drake fumbled again. And it could have just the only thing that got the charge back in the game was a scoop score. And it was right there. And you guys you guys fell on it

like it was a and we can show Drake's numbers compared to his season averages. What Brew and I were a little worried about that he would have One of if not his worst game of the season to start the playoffs. Yeah But I don't think it's now like okay. That's who he's gonna be next week

I think it was first playoff game jitters all those things and you guys won anyway, yeah, which makes your team scarier so that's a long way of saying brew and I were right and you were wrong, but But it would it it makes your team more dangerous. In my

opinion. I'll take that look. I'm with great. I liked what I saw from Drake May and he did have to fight through adversity struggled a bit early. That's good for him. I think that especially when you win and his running and we all knew he could run you had the the Michael Vick graphics and all that last year.

Oh yeah.

But he ran, he ran, when he wasn't passing it well, he ran the ball well. And then of course he makes the, throws the dime to Hunter Henry to seal the game. But I thought he learned a lot just in the, over the course of the game. Now look, I agree with you guys. The pressure, they sacked Herbert six times. They obviously were tough in the red zone.

I'm definitely gonna give them credit for that, and certainly they're dangerous. You look at the field, if you won this weekend in the AFC, you're dangerous. Yes. I mean, the Bills, a lot of people,

even though the Patriots are favorite, might think the Bills, but they beat the Bills. They're one and one with the Bills, and the game is in Foxborough. And then the other two teams, you got questions about the quarterbacking. You know, our other three teams. Yeah, and the offense is Pittsburgh, Houston, Denver.

The question is, can they score? Now, I do think some, I did not like some of the play calling by the Chargers in the red zone. I mean, they want to turn Justin Herbert into a running back. So some of it was on them. Yeah, yeah, some of it was on them, but still, you guys deserve credit and it was impressive.

That was a career high for Drake running. Ten rushes, career high, 66 yards. Greg, I want to give you, as a Super Bowl champion, and I am flag football champion, so a little champion to champion talk, I want to get a vibe check on something that hit my radar.

We saw everybody's post-game quarterback interviews, one-on-one with the quarterback, how'd you do, this and that. I want to show you the picture of the Patriots postgame. This is a six person postgame interview for Mike Reese. For those who watch the NBC on TV Drake May Hunter Henry

chase on and Wayne who Garrett Bradbury Morgan Moses were there due to May's request won the entire O-line there. But Will Campbell and Jared

Wilson had to start.

Will Campbell Jared Wilson.

They had to look at that both quick. Well, Jared Wilson, they don't mess with it. No,

between that Mike Rable bleeding the end of the game. There's just seemed I granted. They're my team. So I think it's a special team. Yeah, but is there anything hitting your vibes meter of like, wow, this team really supports each other

and look, they obviously are supporting each other. It doesn't hit my meter. I think it's a good sign that he's understanding that it's not just about him. It's about us as the collective and if he continues to do that, which he needed his team, he alluded to that in this post game like he needed the team to step up

because he wasn't at his absolute best. But it's a good sign. You can love it. I don't read too deep into it. It's okay, you can just tell him. No, I'm high on this thing.

Oh, some OKC vibes.

I know.

You know?

I'm surprised you didn't.

Yeah, they, you know.

Gentlemen, do you mind playing this off again, please? Thank you. Watch out, Nick.

I'm fine.

I'm just gonna play out for a while.

Welcome back. As for the Chargers, they rested last week. They wanted to head to New England. Didn't work out. Herbert got sacked six times, lost a fumble, managed 207 total yards of offense, and that included a fumble that turned into a first down. Fair to put this loss on Herbert.

Yeah.

It's ten straight quarters of F-minus quarterback play in the playoffs by Justin Herbert. This is what it is. I mean, first good news, well I guess second good news after Harbaugh getting fired for Lamar in the last couple months. He's no longer the face of shaky playoff quarterbacking from a quarterback that in Lamar's case we know is great. It's far better. It's exactly right but like if people talk about like playoff shrink you know alleged superstar quarterback Lamar it's not alleged. Lamar had

been the face of a lot of people he's not like and again this can change but the fact that it can change in the future doesn't mean it's not a reality right now. Right now, here's where Justin Herbert is in NFL history amongst quarterbacks with at least three playoff starts and passer rating. Dalton's the worst, then Herbert, Brad Johnson, Carson Palmer, Rex Grossman. Palmer at least had one good run late in his career, again is to say it can happen. And I didn't when I asked for

this graphic I didn't know Andy Dalton. It was going to be Dalton Herbert one two. But we have said for a long time we're talking about my

homes and Allen and Lamar like who's Brady who's Manning who's big Ben of this era. Somebody who's also got to be Andy Dalton. And this might sound outrageous because Herbert's 6'6 and has a rocket arm.

Here's Andy Dalton and Justin Herbert through six years. Now Herbert's better, but he has a worse record. Same in the playoffs, team points per game, same. Yards per game goes to Herbert, yards per pass, Dalton. Again, Herbert is better.

But the way it is discussed, he is not discussed like he is a rich man's Andy Dalton until the playoffs when he is just Andy Dalton. And I understand it is always someone else's fault and the offensive line, particularly in the fourth quarter, was a train wreck.

But the flip side to that is this. Literally, no quarterback in NFL history has had their defense force more takeaways in a three game playoff losing streak than Justin Herbert has in his. In the last quarter century,

no quarterback has lost three straight playoff games with their defense forcing five turnovers other than Chad Pennington. Herbert's is forced 10. That's the that's the most in the last.

Trevor gave him a lot.

OK, well, whatever it is, I'm saying extra possessions, but still extra possessions. And if we took it to the entirety of NFL history, Herbert's number one as well. Number two, brew, I didn't do it. I want to do it to your guy Bert Jones with nine that Bert Jones fellow showed up a

I mean this is I know just But like you have to you're at that I think the eight yard line when Drake gave you the

ball like you have to score And so I am again like Greg I am not saying he is the biggest problem with the team. But he is the superstar who is the reason people believe in the team. And for three straight playoff games, at least two and a half straight, he has been totally unproductive.

I don't know what else you can say about it.

Yeah, look, you make a strong argument. And those are facts. The reality for the Chargers and our organization is we have Justin Herbert. We believe Justin Herbert is good enough for us to overcome some of the things

that we are not going to have, some of the weaknesses, some of our voids. And that's just not been the case in the postseason. Watching that game yesterday, it is very difficult for me to sit here and put it all on Justin Herbert. Knowing what I, as a receiver, and forget the offensive line, we know the offensive

line. From a receiving standpoint, tell me a guy that was creating any form of separation yesterday.

I was shocked that we had him.

It was unreal. And you cannot do that to your quarterback. I'll even, like, I'm not going to give anybody a pass, but Keenan Allen, a little longer in the tooth. Okay, that acceptable if you want to say that.

Ladd-McConkie.

And drop. Exactly, the drops. Ladd-McConkie, no separation. It was poor. Quentin Johnson, where was he?

But here's the thing, can I just say that real quick? There was, and I should have had him pull the tape. On one of the Herbert scrambles to the right, McConkie is open by a 20-yard radius around him, and at that point, they are down 6-3. I understand it'd be one thing if this was a tie

or a three-point or a six-point game for two and a half hours before the offensive line totally broke down. You needed your superstar to make one play, including a drive that started inside the ten, and that's like, you gotta make one play.

I understand that, but we're asking, and again, I'm not a Justin Herbert apologist, like he is not exempt.

No, that's a five o'clock hour.

He is not exempt. However, he is not exempt. 5 o'clock hour. He is not exempt. However, he has to be perfect for this team to have success in the postseason yesterday. Like, it was clear. Because we can point the finger, and we can place blame on the calling, the play calling.

We can place blame on Justin Herbert. We can place blame on the offensive line after they kind of started to break down. We definitely can place blame on the running game and the receiving. To place blame on Justin Herbert is easy to do

because he is their best player. And I'm not saying he is not one to own some of that. But to say he has to overcome it all, it's with that team, knowing what that defense is going to look like against a backup offensive line.

Like look man, if I get a second or third string defender

across from me, you know how I'm going to feel.

Oh, let's go.

Yeah, and a lot of the he got sacked six times and you're right that they protected him fairly well early on. But the Saks, when they started coming into bunches, those weren't like quarterback, you know, it wasn't his fault. It was the rush and then coverage Saks.

I like Ladd McConkie a lot. I felt like, where is he today? Like I haven't heard his name said once, you know, like he, they really locked him down. I agree, the receivers could not create separation, but here's what I'll say about Herbert

He's not elite We have to stop and I don't think you put him in that category right now But a lot of people view him as elite like he okay We won't put him in the top four with those guys Lamar and Mahomes, etc. But he's right after them He's we can't put him there right now.

He's falling out of fluid for you?

Well, you're trying to be funny, but no, five, six to, he's, I guess he's in the bottom. Now he can get there, but right now with the way he's performed,

he's out.

I am, and I'm like great I'm not an apologist like Danny for him, but I do like him I think he's got great talent, but he looks different in the playoffs that he looked different yesterday I don't think he looked like he was scared, but he just

Looked like a different quarter We all knew their offensive line was banged up if we had told you the Patriots were gonna have two turnovers and nine points through three quarters, you'd be like, sounds great for the Chargers. And by the way, three of those points We all knew their offensive line was banged up if we had told you the Patriots were gonna have two turnovers and nine points through three quarters, you'd be like, sounds great for the Chargers. And by the way, three of those points were because Herbert gave him an extra possession at the end of the half.