Nie jestem tym kim myślicie - Edyta Górniak o duchowości, zdradzie i życiu po śmierci

I have knowledge about what the next 100 years are going to look like.

Is this a special time that we are living in?

Very much so. It is one of the most important in the history of the universe.

Can you have a different vision of the world from the majority of society

and not feel fucking lonely at the same time? You can't feel lonely when you understand and feel and know and see what I know and see and feel and hear. I can say that I didn't say that. I think I was ranting at God. I said that I was trying so hard to be a good daughter. For you, for you. And you gave me such a husband.

A corrupter.

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Good morning, hello. on Gentleman Barber. the real Edyta Górniak is different from the Edyta Górniak who created show business. I think that these ideas are extremely different and in fact everyone looks at their inner lens, so depending on what stage of life they have, they can look at me like that. If someone is happy, fulfilled, they look at my work differently.

If someone is on the way to success, but still has no sense of fulfillment, he may also look at me differently. So these lenses are different. I just got used to the fact that everyone sees me as best they can. And does this reception of the media, reception of people, does this reception hurt you, especially when you talk about certain topics that are obvious to you,

but meet with a kind of misunderstanding among the people? Do you feel that the world doesn't understand you? Do you feel that the soul never dies? Do you feel that we are born through various incarnations, that our body only disappears from this surface. These are very complex issues, and only for those who are hungry for knowledge,

or just brave, or their life in the matrix of such matter was boring. However, I respect the fact that people, there is a huge number, if not more than half the planet, foreign They are afraid to think about what happened before they came here. They are afraid to think about what will happen next. But there is always a moment of transfer to another reality, to another space. And then very often, or I think I can say, guess that most of the souls then call for help and think to themselves,

or maybe it's not the end, because it would be a pity if it was just that, that I had a car, a wife, children and I traveled a bit and it's over and that's it. So sometimes these are actually new issues for many people, because we have to remember that we had such a break in education, in the sense that once, not so long ago, books were burned, and knowledge was available only to kings, princes and those who were disappointed with the various borders of the states. They had various leaders, their own advisors, and these advisors were scientists, astrologers, people who had a wide knowledge, but it was generally taken away for many years

and books were burned and banned, knowledge was punished. And then someone decided, regardless of who, it was just that they started new educational records, so the last three generations, it's more or less what someone decided for us, what we should believe in, what worldview we should have,

what reactions are indicated for different circumstances. And in such systems, they teach us from an early age to find ourselves. But we can see that this perception is also changing.

Fortunately, yes.

And what you say was received differently 10-15 years ago, it is received differently today. Even when the time of the main impulse, in my opinion, the 2020s, when the whole world stopped, people started to look a little more closely at their lives, their relationships, their own space, their dreams, ambitions, whether they are happy in a relationship, whether they are happy in this house, what tasks they still have to take up, and so on. So here began a massive process of expanding, awakening consciousness. I remember that six years ago, it will be six years, when I started telling people about different spheres of existence, I was taking on such issues on live streams, difficult for people. And many people just stuck to individual threads that they were able to understand and it helped them a lot. life, but very often they are already so encouraging to look a little further than just what our eyes see.

And it seems to me that there was also a period of such a test for our courage, especially for artists, because artists are often afraid to talk about who they are. However, this self-preservation instinct for certain content, however, wins with this authenticity.

And you...

It's true, It's true. And you, what you say, how much do you filter it through your avatar image, the stage diva? Very interesting question. In general, I mean, when the time has come, when, I don't know how much I can say here,

I think I can say everything. You can say everything, I can only say a few things. I have knowledge about what the next 100 years will look like. I can't say where I got this knowledge from, but when the times of shock and detention came, I knew that this was a thick script, made up of many threads, many dependencies. And that's why I had such a strong instinct to just save people.

I was always associated with people, as far as I remember. This connection that music gave us and my audience caused that this zone that connected us is very subtle and very emotional. So if I didn't do anything, I would just feel... I would be afraid not to take a stand and use the voice I received for the greater good, for the greater purpose.

Maybe I didn't always choose words wisely and carefully, but I just didn't value it in the sense that I didn't wonder if something was threatening me, if people would understand it. I just... a bit like people fall out of the boat, right? And then you have to hold on tight, you have to do this, so at first I had this instinct, God, save people, save people. God. And I took a few blows there. Then there were various exposures. Today everyone knows what I said.

I think most Poles already understand what I was talking about and what I was warning about. Now there are these huge trials and they prove that this nanoengineering is very harmful. The things we feel are really happening. So this is part of the true history of our lives. And if you take a stand, it's only for such important reasons. So if I were to hide then, like many of my colleagues

who had the awareness that I have, I don't know if to the same degree, but they had. I know at least a few people who think and feel the same and have a very broad worldview, but do not speak publicly because they have a safe professional position. I don't want to judge it because

maybe they have sick children for whom they have to have money, maybe they have loans and it would not be safe for them to lose their jobs. I didn't care about that at all, because I would have died for the truth. I follow the footsteps of Christ for the truth. I will never stand against the truth. I may not say everything I know,

but I will never stand against the truth. There are very strong words here. We will get to that in a moment. What price do you pay for saying uncomfortable words to the media? You said about how the world will look like

in 100 years. Where did this knowledge come from? I can't say about it. Can you say how this world will look like in your opinion? There is nothing like that in my opinion. a czym możesz powiedzieć, jak ten świat według ciebie będzie wyglądał? To nie ma czegoś takiego według mnie.

Po prostu są przyjęte pewne scenariusze, które, może tak powiem, najbezpieczniej, bo też nie chciałabym, żeby ktoś się przestraszył, dlatego że to jest tak. Niezależnie od przyjętych scenariuszy, w każdej nanosekund an impact on any potential to activate it.

So we can bring destruction to humanity, we can destroy everything that is valuable, but we can also build new structures, actions, functioning, being, thinking, looking and acting. Because we have the right of free will, which has never been taken away from us, hence the evil in the world, because we got the right of free will.

And it is such an important right, it cannot be broken by anyone, even by the Antichrist. The only thing that can be done is... The Antichrist can generally only tempt, but he cannot force. He tempts people in a sneaky way, as we can see what is happening. But I mean that... A lot of threads are being turned on right away. I will try not to say too many things that will be too difficult.

The most important thing we need to understand today is the responsibility for the future of this planet, our life, our descendants. We have an active influence on it, because according to the law of quantum physics, the energy on which the existence and functioning of the universe is based, always goes beyond our attention. That's why there are so many distractions, so many negative and fearful stimuli. Because when we think, talk, speak, whisper, write about it, read about it,

we direct our attention there, that is, we supply the materialization of the process. Everything always starts in the quantum field, in space, in thought, and only when we think about something intensively, we can lead to it happening. And if people understand this responsibility, they will start to direct attention where they should. So don't wonder why this war is, who started it, how cruel it is. We just need to understand that someone started this war. It all starts at the very beginning, when we have children.

We either give them the right space to develop, or we emotionally torture them. And then there are the outcasts, that lead to a desire for revenge, aggression. People sometimes lose their souls on the way, they lose such a pure connection with the source and become very strongly disabled. And then, when someone feels that he has nothing, he has nothing to lose, so it works very aggressively. So if we understand that we generate everything in our consciousness,

in our heart, in our home, in our conversations, it all multiplies. It's like, to make it easier to imagine, when you go to a vegetarian and make fun a lady laugh who sells you fruit even though she had a hard day. Then she will come back home in a better mood, cook a great soup, her husband will be even happier,

and they will invite their neighbors, and they will bake a cake. Everything is multiplying, every energy, everything. Energy is generally evolving all the time, so if we have an active impact on it, we can have a negative or positive impact.

But wasn't it like that from the beginning? You talk about the power of creation, free will, that energy is increasing. Is this the 100 years to come? Is this a special time for our Earth? What we mentioned at the beginning, that the message that was once incomprehensible,

is now more understandable. More and more people feel this content. More and more people open up to a certain kind of experience, related to who they really are. Is this a special time in which we are, in your opinion?

Very much so. This is one of the most important in the history of the universe. In the history of the universe. According to the records, according to the messages, this is one of the most important tests for

man, for humanity. So that we can remember what everything is made of. Where is the beginning? What are we heading to? What is the purpose?

Hence, a lot of distractions, toys, to distract us from remembering why, why, when and how long. People only remember it in the face of diseases, tragedies, losses. We should not wait for such extreme moments. We should decide, using our free will, decide from now on I will be like this. I observe various statements and I am very happy, really, because more and more people say that the most important day for me, these people say, record that today I did so much good,

I multiplied it well, I multiplied the fact that I got, that I'm still here, that I can still do something special or very basic and I can help someone, bring relief, help. Of course, you can't lose and sacrifice yourself. This is also important. So you can't devote yourself entirely to some idea, in the sense that something could be a threat to us. Because a threat to us causes pain to people who love us. So this boundary is important to keep.

Have you ever felt that you got such a divine gift in the form of your voice, that your task is not only to be an artist on stage, but also to talk about things that are supposed to show people this other side of the world,

another side of life? How to say it, these are very sacred spaces for me, which you have just started to talk about. There are areas of life that are difficult to talk about without making it more complex. Even if you use beautiful, important, interesting words, it will still become more complex and magical. But generally, the voice I have will be used to convey information. However, my responsibility is to keep the content as clean as possible,

so I have to be very careful, while I'm becoming more and more aware of this responsibility. I have to be very careful about who I'm with, what I'm listening to. I don't just walk around every day, so that anything falls into my ears, because it all disrupts my mind, my nervous system. The more I maintain this hygiene of the space,

the cleaner my content is, and I understand the task better, which I once took on. and I understand the task I used to take better.

I think that such a change of perception of the world is often associated with a kind of isolation from the environment. Do you think it is possible to have such a different vision of the world from most of society and not feel at the same time fucking lonely?

No. You can't feel lonely when you understand and feel and know and see what I know and see and feel and hear. You can't. I can be in such a very earthly-human sphere sometimes, that, for example, I would go to the cinema with someone, but I have no one,

because every person I love has a third-world person. For example, I would go to the cinema with someone, but I don't have anyone to go with, because every person I love has a partner, right? I will go with someone, so I won't interfere when couples are going. So in that sense, yes, but these are such individual moments. However, this silence never bores me. Silence, because in this silence, which is very difficult to generate at the moment,

it has become more and more inaccessible and even exclusive. It's not easy to get your hands on. Only then do I select what I need to organize, because it's a daily job. It's a lot of work, internal work. I can't explain it exactly.

I don't want to get into any conversation with another person. There are some content that I would say are forbidden to take. They are too important, if I may say so. However, when you remember what your goal is, then the highest goal is so sacred that no price is really worth it.

So you mean to say that if you discover who you really are, that is, that we change the perception of the world, it means that this is the same moment in which we can never become lonely again? Because we always have this connection with the real self?

If someone starts experiencing the essence of life, he stops feeling loneliness. What he notices is that people who

have been very close to him are moving away from him. They sometimes just stay in their space and when you evolve, your soul goes further, higher, you look wider, then you start to feel that you don't have the possibility of deep conversation anymore. And why do you it a flat conversation?

That every moment of life is now valuable to understand something, learn something, learn something new. Most of our work today is learning the habits of thought, learning to assess, looking at the shortcomings. These are such things as getting used a relationship without belonging to someone, being in your own space, safely. We feel safe only when we have a feeling that we belong to someone, to some family, to someone, right? It's very difficult. It's a different path of understanding. So when you start to understand right? It's very difficult.

It's a different path of understanding. So when you start to understand it, of course, there are moments when the so-called upgrade comes, before, in this awareness, before it comes, you get a total breakdown. Really, the so-called awakening is

such an unpleasant process, really painful, often. You have to leave what we were very attached to. You can't get attached to anything and to anyone. You can't. It's unnatural for the essence of life.

And then there's the moment when people turned away from you. Does that mean that something has changed in your environment, that people started to perceive you differently?

Not even like that.. They remained themselves. However, my perception changed so much that I could not... I mean, I noticed that I had to adjust to someone's table, to the conversation, to the atmosphere, to the language of communication. And that it was an effort for me. I felt that I was against myself.

So I kind of minimized and silenced these relationships. It wasn't some kind of bang, was it? Besides some obvious, obvious treacheries, it's obvious that yes, but generally I rather silence it and just direct attention elsewhere and I can always say, I'm sorry, I don't have a date, I'm busy or whatever. I'm not going to say it straight to anyone's face, to make someone feel bad.

I try not to leave such unpleasant traces. Of course, in life we learn and once we were different than today, right? Five years ago, ten, I don't know, twenty or thirty. Well, there are things that hurt me today, they don't hurt me at all. I'm ungrateful today.

But that's how the perception changes, we're freeing ourselves. I was watching a documentary about you, I was listening to conversations and I wonder how much of your courage today is correlated with who you were as a child. Because if you were to look at this little girl from Ziembice, who for nine years was locked up by her mother and father, and who, as you said, did not know that fear does not come from God,

how much of this today's courage actually pays off

towards that little girl, who would never have to be afraid again. I'm curious how you put that question together. An interesting thought structure, very interesting. I put it together in such a way that when I could leave that room, I wanted to travel and admire the world. For many years, and it was a very sad and difficult experience for me,

especially when I was in beautiful places, with magical views, especially then I got the feeling of a wounded child. So when it seemed to me that I was getting further and further away, because I was in a beautiful place, because I could finally travel, because no one would hurt me, because no one would complain, I could take food whenever I wanted, not when someone gave it to me, etc.

All of this always kept me company for many years. Just like the sound of a key in a castle. Because when it was many hours, it happened that I was a few days, the neighbor only brought me food, and then I was again,

that as if being in silence, when you suddenly hear such in a small apartment, such, you know, such a sound of a key being put in, then I always had palpitations, that I was afraid of something,

that I certainly did something wrong,

maybe now there will be a punishment, what will it be?

And it stayed with me for many years.

And even when I was in a relationship,

as a woman, let's say,

when I was at home and my partner was coming home and didn't knock or warn me

by phone that he was coming home, he just opened the door himself because he had a key.

I was so afraid of that sound that I was just unpleasant. And I said, why don't you knock? Why don't you call that you're here? Well, I had the keys just when someone wasn't, didn't go through that kind of trauma, he wouldn't understand that such a sound from the key can stress someone so much.

So it took me a while to stop being afraid of that sound. And also, being in beautiful places in the world, so that this childhood wouldn't catch up with me. I had to do a lot and get along with it. And then I finally got to a point where I just appreciated that it taught me a lot about being with myself.

And also such a very deep, in-depth observation. Well, what's left of me, I didn't have toys, too much, so I felt sorry for this girl, but only later, because for many years I believed that it really is like my parents say, that I deserved it, that I was treated that way. It caused me to choose the wrong partners

for the first few years. And I was afraid of everything. And it had its good side, because it stopped humility in me, gratitude. However, I remember that when I got up, because I was closed until the 17th year of my life, then I went to Warsaw, I started working in the subway,

well, I remember that when I was on stage and then I had standing ovations, it seemed to me that people knew what happened in my life and that they felt me and that's why they applauded. I haven't believed in such kind compliments for a long time and in such very emotional reactions to my performance, or litanies or some songs.

I don't know if it's interesting for your program, but in fact, I was so suspicious for a long time that it's impossible for someone... So you had such a feeling of badness that you don't deserve the great success you achieve? Definitely. Because it's just this world that found me in Warsaw, that is, the audience, it was so different from my first years of life that I didn't understand this contrast.

In general, it took me just a few years to understand that maybe people really love this kind of interpretation, these sounds, this voice, etc. It took me a really long time.

Just like I remember today, when we were in Cape Town for the promotion of my first world album, I think. Yes, I remember that we were on a table mountain. It's one of the most beautiful views.

I remember that I was standing there and instead of enjoying how amazing it was, I felt the pain of this little child who couldn't get out of this room. And I tried every key, as soon as they left, I took out the drawers where the spare keys were. I never found a key that would fit. And so it just never ended. And those years passed.

Then, when I became a mother, everything stopped making sense to me. I thought, something is wrong here. Because only when I experienced the mother's love, only in the context of this, I looked at the rest of my life, or earlier years of my life,

and I thought to myself, no, no, no, something is wrong here. So until that moment, so until the 30th year of my life, I believed what my mother said, that I was so bad.

I've had so many successes.

The key is what you said, that you covered up the little girl you were, that it was a moment in your life which actually freed you from this prison. Because you also talked about this time when you were locked up, that it was also a time

when you learned to listen to yourself,

you learned to listen to yourself. You learned to dream.

Yes.

So, when the time of detention came, six years ago, my fans, I remember, they wrote to me, Edi, how are you going to endure this quarantine? I came back from Nashville, I had to stay in the room for two weeks.

Not leaving the room, what is two weeks for me? After nine years. So I did it without effort. Now people know when they watch the film. However, I understand today from this parental perspective.

Maybe they just really thought that I'm some kind of, I don't know, they justified it in such a way that this is such a educational system, that I'm under control,

that I can't do anything because I just can't go out and that's it. Okay, and you also had that feeling then, being a little girl, that you came into this world with a kind of an old soul, that your sensitivity was a bit ahead of your age, however? I didn't think about it that way. I only knew that I see things that people couldn't see.

I could hear things that people couldn't hear. I could smell things that people couldn't smell. So I started to realize that I have very strong senses. I didn't know it was a gift. I thought it was a big burden. I thought something was wrong.

Today I know it's a great and that I have to protect it. However, I found a way through music, that I could, that it was such a very safe space in which I could turn on these sensors. And in this form, people loved it. People loved this individuality. And I have the impression, up to now,

maybe not the last years, but let's say up to 2020, that people could easily accept some very deep content, even very touching hearts and the roots of the soul, when it is entwined with sounds. Then they enter into a very deep retrospection.

However, when there are only words and no sounds, it's a bit different. What were the things you saw that others didn't? Were they material things or more about phenomena that normal people didn't see? I mean phenomena, not material things. I had practically nothing material. I mean phenomena. Can you give an example?

No.

It will be too strong.

I'll leave it for the book. No, really, these are great treasures for me. There are just content that are very sacred to me, which I will not share on the forum, a little bit, sorry, commercial. I'm not even allowed.

Twenty years ago, in one of the interviews, you said that the word dad is a word that you would define as the most difficult noun

and every time you have to say it, it is painful for you. So what does the word dad mean to you today? foreign foreign I could compare it to a piercing longing. Piercing. Although my father was only a few years old, he played the most important role in my life. It's a difficult word, I try to get through it. However, I couldn't say this word for many years. First out of regret, then out of longing.

Then I just couldn't.

It's a very important word.

And once in one of the interviews, Don Vassel, with whom your dad played in one band,

mentioned that your dad missed you very much, that he admired you and saw himself in you.

I wonder if you found a part of him in yourself after all these years?

I think I'm more like my dad than my mom.

I remember when I was at my dad's funeral, I met his family, his brother, who unfortunately is no longer alive. He told me that my parents were very in love. When they ate soup, for example, they came and my grandmother made them soup, they ate from one plate. Just like children, like grandmothers, they were really in love. It was a great tragedy when they parted. Perhaps for both sides in general.

I will never know why. Everyone has their own version. And one way or another, my mother probably never agreed with the loss of her first love. As a woman, I can understand that. She kept a grudge against her father for a long time, and she also reacted to me. However, my uncle told me then that when dad, when there was some quarrel and someone, for example, raised his voice, dad never liked to scream. He was a calm man and when he was supposed to quarrel with someone,

he preferred to take a guitar and go somewhere to the garden and play and cry. He would cry out and cry out this stress, possibly pain or disappointment, and he preferred not to go to the yard and fight with someone, as the guy said, but he had such a very sensitive soul and that music was just calming him. And he would take the guitar and just sing and play and just cried and did not participate in aggression. So here I think we are so similar.

I later understood for years that I had different feelings for him through this life, because before I understood many things, I also don't know the truth quite who, why, what was to blame. Ultimately, what I know and what was unnecessary, is that when the parents parted,

my mother just wanted to punish my father and say that she would never see me again. Well, that's not how you talk to a second parent. Never. That's why when I divorced, regardless of what I knew about Alan's father,

I never forbade Alan to see him as long as he wanted. If he didn't want to, he didn't want to. But as long as he wanted to, I always supported him. I didn't want him to feel the same great longing that I felt. Most of my life I've been feeling this longing. And what's interesting,

the first night after the funeral, I felt a great peace. And I realized that for all those years I felt such a strong longing for my father. Pain, first pain, then longing, a little bit of anger. I was going through all those different emotions and they were quieted down the first night after the funeral. As if I didn't feel the longing because my dad was already next to me.

It was so metaphysical, it was amazing, that when he was in the physical body, we were separated from each other and torn apart by others. And then when he passed away, it was very close and I stopped feeling this burden. And even once, I remember in California, I wanted to find out something about my health or something. I don't remember how it was and someone advised me, listen, there is such an Indian shaman, you can go. Now I wouldn't go to any shaman, but then I believed that someone from outside could help us, so I went. And my dad came to me.

Even though I went for a different reason, the reason was that I could talk to my dad. And my dad apologized for my mother, which was so extraordinary. He held my hand and said, forgive me, mom, that it's so difficult.

And I'm sorry that I wasn't with you longer. And that I will be, until you arrange your life so that I know that you are safe and calm, then I will leave. And then after a few years I decided that I didn't want him to be in this space, so sensitive. And I took my dad away.

And I said that we can always hear each other, but just... Wow. I'll tell you that...

I thank him for his service, for how much he was a father to me, that I am already strengthened, that I am strong, that he is calm about me, that I am responsible, that I will not do anything that you could be ashamed of. I use my voice for a good cause, for the higher good. I try to live according to my values and to make you feel at ease about me. I won't cry for you anymore.

I have goosebumps. It's a deep purification in a relationship when you feel that he really comes to me in my adult life. Sometimes we choose to be with our father as children, but then we remember that as adults we need to have someone who is above us, who will always take care of us, who will give us the indomitable feeling that he is always with us. I had such an experience once, when after my father's death, there was a moment in my life when he came to me.

And I remember that it is such a moment that you can't help but cry. There is such a longing that sometimes we put on masks of adult men, we leave ourselves in the position of strong people, but deep inside we have an unhealthy part that needs this father, and I feel such a longing for him, that along with that, there is such a purification, that we see that this man is actually close here,

that we can tell him everything, even though he's not really there. But he is, actually. He's just in a different frequency and space. The only thing we don't have today, which we both know, because I think we both know, is that we can't feel physical touch, although it happened to me.

But we can hear his voice, we can greet him, we can talk to him. I think that souls don't always have the ability to hear our feelings and thoughts,

but when we speak to him, they have the ability to hear it. You just have to do it in a way, in a proper way, so that it doesn't disrupt the space between us, right? To rememberation, so that it doesn't so that it doesn't violate the space between them, right?

To sanctify it, to remember about it.

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We're coming back to my first question. How do people judge you through the prism on your head in the media, and how much

through the prism of what you really are. And what your brother said, that it is ał, ze tak zawsze był taki trochę starszy na swój wiek, szybciej zaczął mówić niż dzieci w przedszkole. No generalnie stara dusza jak nic, to na bank, na bank. Natomiast sprzeczamy się często, no może nie często, czasem. Nie zgadzamy się w różnych kwestiach. but we often disagree. Maybe not often, but sometimes. We disagree on various issues. And that's OK.

I learn that someone who came through me, came here to Earth, I'm not his owner. And he can't be identical to me. He is an independent soul that is shaping up. I could only give him some safety,

education, love, just unconditional, and so on. But when I read it, I was so shocked, or security, education, love, unconditional etc. However, when I read it, I was so shocked, because I was so moved by these words, that he wrote something like in this film you will find a home and security, some haven.

And it moved me very much that he wrote I am happy that now you know my mom as I know her, from this film, thanks to this film. So it was shocking for me, because we know our children,

we know that this is what you know, this is what you don't know, this is what you're still learning, but here I was just shocked, sometimes just like he publicly apologized to me, I was shocked. Sometimes he would apologize in public. It required courage. He doesn't always talk a lot,

but when he says something, he writes it in a very nice way. I'm very glad you noticed his words. You're a dad, that's why. He also has an exceptional sensitivity.

It really requires a lot of courage to say such words about your mother, especially when you're a young man, you're making a career, and yet you're not sure It's a great opportunity. It requires a lot of courage to say such words about your mother, especially when you're a young man, you're starting your career and you need a lot of autonomy to separate yourself from your parents, who often we put on the back burner

because we want to show that it's us who have the strength to check in adult life. And especially at such a young age, such words also seem to me very mature. But I also went through this moment of childhood, because you said that you had nothing there. Then you went to such a moment when you started your career

and you got to the point where you had absolutely everything.

You even said that you had even too much. Too much. And then the moment came to you when you had too much. And then came the moment when you lost all of it. When your husband took it all from you. Ex-husband.

And I wonder if this brutal taking away of everything from you then,

what did it show you in your life?

It was probably the biggest betrayal I've ever experienced.

Because...

Betrayal or loss?

Betrayal. Betrayal of a human being. In that sense. Because, of course, I think that each of us here and the viewers, and you also have experiences of betrayal, whether physical or emotional or mental or financial, right? That someone cheated on us and so on. However, here it was a betrayal of a human being. Because I remember that when dad Alana was in labor, I was convinced that when he took my son from the doctor and gave him to me, it was such a strongly consecrated moment that nothing could break this bond. So when he punished me for taking my property away, I was just. He knew I needed money for school, for a taxi, for food, for a flat.

I borrowed for a few months and had nothing. It was very simple. If you think about it, it's very simple. When I got pregnant, I had to pay taxes, I had a problem with my company. He said, where are you going to walk around in these queues? I will help you. I said, ok, I gave him everything I had.

And he did it all on him. At that moment, when I was pregnant. So after I left, there was one moment when I had nothing. Everything was gone. I don't want to remember it now. It was a time of great loneliness,

feeling betrayed, rejected. I remember I was angry then. I can say that I didn't say it. I was probably angry with God then. Because I said that I was trying so hard to be a good daughter. For you.

And you gave me such a husband.

A rapist.

And all the flowers died in my house. Healthy flower pots that just in one day, left all the leaves. in I didn't know it was a positive thing, because I knew that this energy was very strong. I didn't know it then. And it took me a long time to understand that I chose such a husband myself. I followed the parents' teachings. That if I was mistreated, I had to go to someone who would treat me badly.

Because this is the home I know, this is the love I associate with. This is the feeling I associate with love. In any case, I really wish him to feel lightness, healing, mutual love in his heart. Because everyone deserves it. I don't know why he didn't reach out to his parents and he needed to react as a man, as a male ego, that I left.

I could have got it all back, he told me straight away. I can give you everything back when you come home. I say, but it doesn't work like that, because blackmail is not love. to that the outside world reflects what we have inside. So the fact that you chose it based on your programs is one thing. How many mistakes have you made in your life at that time? Those failures that shaped you, wrong decisions, cooperation with people.

These were not mistakes, these were lessons. And now I always say that these are lessons. I used to say, well, it was a mistake, it shouldn't have been. Yes, we choose partners depending on what we feel of value. This is true. And this first sense of value we get from our parents. If we are humiliated, we have a disturbed sense of normality,

human value. And then even a minimum makes us happy. If we are strengthened and we understand where the boundaries are, because our parents teach us to stand up for our own defense

or to defend someone, then it's not easy to deceive us anymore. So definitely the partners I've chosen so far I chose on the vibration I was experiencing at the time. So, those were very difficult relationships.

However, I am grateful for each of them today. Because I was very suffering at the time, I even had suicidal thoughts. But today I am grateful because, first of all, I can't imagine a more beautiful, wiser, and more loving son. Every mother will say that to her child. Almost every mother.

Maybe not every, but almost every. So if Alan was to be like that, I am ready to pay the price I paid, because it was evident that these genes were needed. So it's good that this feeling of inferiority led me to this man, because this is the seed that gave birth to such a man. So I am very grateful for that.

And these next difficult lessons in relationships taught me to set boundaries successively. My parents didn't teach me that either, so I couldn't do it myself. And only those difficult lessons teach us what we shouldn't agree on and what this love is really about. What is friendship? What is partnership? Only those relationships showed me how strong I am.

They showed me a huge ability to forgive, which I would not have been aware of if not for these wounds. I can forgive people for unimaginable things. This is a huge lesson for me.

How did you value your life then? Because you said you started a new life. I remember Jim Curry once said your life then, because you said that you started a new life. And once, I remember Jim Carrey said such words that I would like every person to have a chance to become famous and rich and to buy everything he dreamed of, because only in this way he will understand that this is not the purpose of life.

That's a nice thing to say.

What changed in you then?

I saw that at any moment in that I can start everything over at any moment in my life. It was very important. Because if you start from the very beginning of your life, you will inevitably attract brutal circumstances for yourself, because weakness attracts those who want to dominate, right? So if it wasn't for this situation, that everything was taken away from me,

also the sense of dignity, I was afraid that they would take my child away from me, etc. And I was really blackmailed in various ways, emotionally, financially. If it wasn't for this situation, I wouldn't know I was strong. I wouldn't know how much I could create on my own. The first school of my life, which I took from home, was just the opposite. Only when I was alone with myself and my child, I knew that this was the moment

that I would either just fold my sleeves and rebuild my life, safety for Lana, my whole focus was on the child. It gave me a lot of strength, that I knew I had to be a life, security for Alan. My whole focus was on the child. It gave me a lot of strength. I knew I had to be a responsible parent. I couldn't let Alan have the same difficult childhood.

So from this focus, from this intention, I found the strength to rebuild life first, to take care of his psyche. And I remember, I had one time that I went to the psychologist a psychologist, because someone advised me, I don't remember who, you have to go with him to the psychologist. And he stayed with this lady, he was drawing something, and this lady later told me, you know what, if it wasn't for the media, I wouldn't have guessed that your son was divorcing. I don't know what you did and how you did it, but he has everything is very well arranged in him, no disturbances at all.

And that was the first signal for me that what I was doing was indicated and was right. Because in another case, who was supposed to help me? Mom? Neighbor? Nobody. I don't have a grandmother anymore, I don't have a dad, so I wasn't supposed to really deal with anyone. I my instinct, guided by the highest good, security and love for my son. It led me through all the obstacles, it let me jump off my shoes. And it showed me that if I have to, I will find the strength and rebuild everything from the beginning. to me at all. I appreciate the design, of course, right?

Part of my work is to appreciate this stylization art. However, it was a very important turning point in my life for me, that I realized that I have a lot of strength. Maybe it's just that I've been activating this strength since I became a mother. There is also such a possibility that maybe if I wasn't a mom, maybe I wouldn't be, right?

Mhm. Okay, and when was the moment when you saw

that there is something more in your life?

I think there wasn't just one moment, but it was showing up more and more, more and more over the years of show business, mainly. So it evolved in you, there wasn't one experience przestrzeni tych lat show businessu głównie. Czyli to ewoluował w tobie, nie było jednego doświadczenia ogranicznego, które spowodowało, że ty zobaczyłaś, że jest coś więcej? To była ewolucja? To była, to zdecydowanie to była ścieżka ewolucyjna. Nie było, nie było takiego

określonego jakiegoś bardzo ważnego początku akurat dla tego poczucia, It was like I remember, but as I grew up, I started to see it, I started to notice it, I tried to name it, and only then the next stages and the next allowances to understand it. And when was the moment when you could name it, when you were so deeply grounded in it, when you could also talk about it, talk about it more broadly to people, when you could really feel it. Because the key to understanding this state is, above all, experience. And how did you experience it? I think I have to say honestly that I'm just getting ready. You're just getting ready. Or I'm prepared, but with my own effort, of course, too. Because the world is changing, we can see it,

and there will come a time of disfigurement, when people will be more prepared for knowledge, for understanding and feeling what is incomprehensible to them at the moment. But it will come for most people. The moment they will need it and will want to understand and feel it with all their heart. This is what I sometimes gave such drops, let's say, in this topic.

Not only me, because there are many of us in the world. It sounds very enigmatic, but if you were to say what was this change for you? How would you like to indicate your deepest recognition that changed your life then by 180 degrees? What, in your opinion, should every person understand in their life to be able to lead their life in a more conscious way?

What would it be? I think that the breakthrough for me personally, because I think that for every spiritual path, for every spiritual path, there is an individual path. We are, we only make one whole, but everyone is an independent individual puzzle.

We connect it all at this moment. And you have to look for this individuality for everyone separately. We never had to fit into the rest. It's not like copy-paste in AI. We have to be an individuality that completes the element that is needed. So everyone carries this fragment of knowledge, feeling, possibility, ability, power, which defines the image that is to be created. And it will certainly be created, I am sure. I am calm about humanity. Whoever does not catch up with this development and this stage, it will simply have to leave this space.

However, for me, I think the turning point, when I could say, feel it so strongly and stand before myself so defenselessly clean, was when I started getting messages. It was the moment when I didn't understand them at the beginning. I mean, I was writing down the content, but I didn't understand that these were messages. I didn't understand that I opened up a space in my heart and that I could hear different things. Because, of course, I had predictions, I have a very strong intuition. I can even send someone such health-enhancing frequencies, even if someone is very far away.

I can navigate energy very consciously, but not always. I don't always have a day like this, right? Sometimes I'm very upset, when I'm somewhere behind the scenes, there's a lot of energy, or at the airport, I'm demagnetized, so to speak. I have to replenish myself and plant all this energy in I think that's when I understood why I was experiencing, why I was shown various phenomena,

why I was experiencing them and that it all leads to, to just one goal.

And if you could explain it to people who don't understand what moment you are in, don't understand the language you speak, don't understand what the message means. You said that the key moment was when you received the messages. How? I have written...

Are these the information you receive from the Creator, from space?

How does it look like?

I can't say that. But what I can say is that I have I have 16 thick notebooks. They are sometimes directed to people, then I pass them on. But most often for me, for my next steps, the next steps I have to prepare for and what I should do to prepare. But I think that if someone doesn't understand the word the message, a million words won't explain it to him.

If someone understands and is at this stage, he will understand and then I don't have to explain anything and I won't pass on the content. However, if someone is very far away and for him it is a very foreign terminology, a million words will not let him understand it. So it seems to me that it doesn't make sense.

You also said that you have a gift of feeling. You mentioned in one of the interviews that when you feel discomfort, you can feel it. Where did it come from? And even see the person who was talking about you negatively.

It was very interesting. How did you work it out? It just came to me with the education of the next stages, that I can close my eyes and see a person who has made a wish, who whispered, who was gossiping who said something different, who had intentions. And this is, contrary to appearances, not so comfortable. Because once I thought, oh, it's a pity I didn't know that someone was lying.

Because once I thought that, not in my wardrobe or somewhere in the corridors. But now, when I have this privilege of seeing or feeling or predicting, it's not that easy. If I have predictions, of course, I can modify the energy a bit and I have an impact on it in the quantum field. However, if something has already happened and has been initiated, then defending yourself against it is also a great effort and process, right?

However, most of the people I know that had an unclean intention towards me or towards my loved ones have very difficult food paths, very difficult lessons, very painful. And I always tell them honestly, I feel sorry for them now. I have no feeling of satisfaction or balance of accounts.

I don't have anything like that at all. Maybe I would have had it once, but now I am in a different space of understanding of a human, his evolution, his fears. Because whenever someone wishes something bad, it's usually out of fear,

or out of a sense of inferiority, or a lack of love. The only thing I can do is to send them an intention to experience security and love. Then they won't need to attack and bite. Because when we are happy, in a nutshell,

we don't need to be fed up with blocking someone, someone's energy, wishing something bad on someone, etc. So it's not that easy. It's like, someone can come into the dressing room and he says something to me, and I hear what he's thinking. It's very, it's difficult, because I can't sometimes confront it right away,

because I wouldn't have a team, for example, on a certain day when I need people or musicians, right?

But I have this knowledge that weighs me down somewhere and then I have to process it. So a lot of information, when you collect a lot of information, you also have to process it. It's not a strong intuition, but I would say that it is more, maybe it's a strong word, but a gift of clairvoyance. Everyone is able to work out, in fact, based on the feeling of how our body vibrates. Sometimes we enter a room, we greet, we shake hands with someone and it's not like we need half an hour, even the first 7 seconds. We already feel the energy of this person,

whether we can make an interest in her, whether we can like her or not, from the first second, only by contacting what we feel deep inside.

Pure information is emotionless. So if we meet someone, we enter a room for a meeting, the first information that comes to us through a handshake, looking into someone's eyes,

or even sitting down at a table with someone, is emotionless. It is the purest and most genuine. Then the mind is activated, which analyzes in many ways,

various possibilities, circumstances, how we should understand it, is it good, maybe it pays off, maybe it doesn't. Until we hear the mind, which is analytical and has such a tendency, the first signal is what we really feel. And sometimes if we didn't ignore it,

or just noticed it, we wouldn't waste time for many meetings. That's why, for example, sometimes various people ask me, who are, let's say, so advanced in this expansion of their knowledge and are at an important evolutionary stage, they ask me, for example, if I would decide or if I would ever do some ayahuasca ritual or any other sacred plant ritual. Even though they are here for us, for people, to use, let's say, to use.

Because depending on the moment when you take such a substance, a little bit of a psychotropic substance, or sacred plants, which cause the brain to freeze for a moment and then we read with perception what is really in the universe. Well, maybe we won't see how the antennas work, right? Although it's also funny when someone says, but how do you say that some souls, some energies, and I say, and what are the radio waves, can you see? Well, you can't see, but are there or not?

Well, there are, and can you see the Internet? Well, you can't see, but there are some waves, no? Because otherwise you wouldn't answer the phone and so on. And he always explains that there are things that you can't see, but they do exist, people do not wonder. It is the same with the space that when grace and mercy take over, it is supposed that the brain stops analyzing analytically,

it is frozen and then our perception and our senses, which are very many, can see, feel a lot of phenomena and beings that exist. Instead of these beings, there are many different ones, both luminous and non-luminous. And when you are in the wrong place, or the plant grew in the wrong place,

or was transported by someone who has a trailer, there is a very high risk that when our free will freezes for a moment, then various beings can join us, which even exorcisms are not capable of.

I've heard about such cases, that often in such moments there are people who can perform very unauthorized actions, even suicide or even killing someone. And in fact, these people do not know for a long time where this situation came from. But such needs can also arise

during such very prosaic situations. Also alcohol. But also collective meditation.

Or even going out of the body. It is very dangerous. There are people who also practice it. And in fact, when you go out body, someone can enter your body.

I know it sounds very abstract and people are listening to us, but it's true.

It's about the magnetic field. Everything in the universe is a vibration and it doesn't stop. It just kind of sews us through and we also emit this electromagnetic field. We are not only a part of it, we are bio-electromagnetic. People think we are just a piece of the body, because that's what they taught us in school. They forget that we have electrons, neurons, that we save a person, for example, when he has a heart attack, by hitting magnetic waves, right?

By electricity, because we are on electricity. And that's why we feel bad and sleep badly when we have a lot of antennas around us, 5G and all that, right? That's why too. Because we just feel it. So from the same space we can feel someone's magnetic field. Before he gives us a hand, but when he does, we already know. You just have to have such an active self-awareness

that when we give a hand, we read right away. We don't get distracted by how someone looks, how they smell, right? So we are distracted by this, that's why we don't see it right away. So I'm not saying it's not indicated, because there are a lot of different diseases, cases that such sacred plants can cure someone, in the sense that someone will meet themselves and understand in this space, outside of physical, where the problem is.

This can be achieved in a conversation with a psychologist or with a space or an angel, a guard. Well, there are different ways. So I prefer not to risk, because I think I would be a good spade for such demonic forces to take me over.

I also, of course, do not say this in the context of how it would be the only tool for us to get to know each other, because it is a bit like a bargain, it speeds you up a lot, but also the cost you incur often opens up to different experiences which often your consciousness may not be ready for.

That's right. And it's very difficult when you return to this matrix reality to be able to move in it later. Besides, if someone is not prepared

they may experience shock, psychological disease, but also, well, these needs are very difficult. And just like you said about collective meditations, of course, you can make intentions.

I know that it is done collectively, people meet in different places and you can send such a good intention for, for example, healing of all water sources water on the globe. That would be useful.

However, your direct connection with the source is the purest and the way you navigate it or allow the force of light to navigate. However, there are a lot of these beings and you have to be careful who is talking through you.

And you, tell me, did you come to this by a natural way, completely through silence? Because you also went deeper into the philosophy of the East, you practiced yoga, meditation for a long time,

you were also on isolation for a few days without any distractors, announcers. Yes. a like and see these hidden worlds. They are right in this subtle space. I know that for someone who has not experienced it, it is very incomprehensible, because you could imagine, well, how is it? It must be more tangible, so clear, expressive, loud, loud, with a shout, a thick line.

Well, it is exactly the opposite. That it is a very big effort to silence the mind and yourself, which is very difficult. I caught myself recently that I found some game of Tetris and I can just play for 6 hours on the plane. Really? And then I got pissed off and I said, okay, I'm canceling it.

It can't be that some game has an impact on me. It can't be that I'm addicted to something. I'm already consciously making such a decision that it can't be that something has has a negative impact on me. How did this experience redefine the concept of death in your life? What is it to you? It is simply a change in frequency, to put it simply.

This is what Christ said that the soul is immortal. That's it. It's not about resurrection opening a tomb, as people imagined. The immortality of the soul is about that. We can take different bodies

and we come here many times to learn, experience, evolve, recognize what divinity is, appreciate divinity over and over and over again, to love more and more, to forgive more and more,

and each of us has to go through all the lessons. All of them. And so, in the end, all of them lead to the source. And the contrast that exists, only exists to awaken us. And those cruel things that were revealed in March, which, of course, some people have known for a long time,

and I, unfortunately, too, which were only said in silence, now it is said out loud, it was revealed not to put someone before the court and to do some justice.

And what information do you say?

I'm talking about the letter...

Upstein?

Yes.

These are crimes unknow not accepted by a normal person If someone has a soul and has a connection with a source he is not able to imagine the level of cruelty because the awareness of divinity is not able to comprehend the lack of divinity in someone So this information is used first of all to distract us,

to direct our attention to cruelty. And the main task of all this information is to remind ourselves in the face of cruelty what we really want, what world we want, what world we want to live in and we want our children to live and our grandchildren.

And this contrast, although it is very harsh, very brutal and very painful, it only serves us to appreciate, to know more precisely what we don't want. Because people sometimes have doubts. One day there are such, such, such, they read wise books, but, but say something else and do not live according to the example they read. And so they say under quotes of various cool books, but they can't live according to these notes. It is very difficult to be an example for yourself, what you have understood.

Live in a certain sense celibacy, in the sense that I try not to use curses, although sometimes I joke about it, or I say a piece of it, because it's not a nice thing to say without a curse, but in a moment I'll call it off and let it go, so as not to burden my electromagnetic space with a frequency that is foreign to me and that is some kind of

disturbance. And where does your boundless conviction about it come from? Because you also talk about reincarnation, that you don't believe in it, but that you know. Where does this strength of this conviction come from? That you know what's there?

Where does it come from?

Well, I can she would be shocked. So I think I feel that this is not the moment to talk about it. but I still did not understand everything he said to me. And there are issues that I don't understand. If I didn't pay attention to it, I wouldn't understand. And we can't understand everything., absolutely all the rights of the creation of the universe, of the universes, it could be so overwhelming that we would lose... I think it is even unauthorized, that we can take a certain fragment, which will allow us to be, to be part of this light and ingenuity for the world, for the history of the universe and future generations.

But we shouldn't, maybe these are so difficult, I know that no one will understand anything. Maybe we just need to do this conversation again. Let's talk about clothes, expensive bags and romance. It was too easy. You know what? The purpose of this conversation was to make people understand what you say, what kind of person you are. We also talked about those torn heads, about the fact that it was very controversial for people that you said about your conviction that you can be there on earth for

four thousand years. If the topic of reincarnation is already an open topic in public media, a topic in which many people have already stopped functioning, where we have a lot of messages from people, like Robert Bernatowicz, who has thousands, tens of thousands of examples of people who speak to him, who say they remember the previous incarnations. It means that such theses, which you talk about, more and more people want to understand it. They ask themselves more and more questions.

About the fact that our soul never really dies. And if this soul does not die,, it means it is incarnating. And if it is incarnating, it means we can have three incarnations, we can have 800, but we can also have 10,000. Because every soul is immortal, because it was never born and will never die.

You see how nicely you said it. For me, it is certainly a blessing to see that people are asking more and more questions. Because this is the exit from the comfort zone and the exit from the world that was given to us in a box as if it were the only one that exists. There is so much truth that we can imagine.

It takes strength in what we believe in more. There are, of course, laws that are based on everything, and we are not able to change it, whether we are wise or stupid. It just happens. Do you believe in how electromagnetic waves flow, or is the world based on quantum physics?

Quantum physics doesn't care about the world at all, whether you understand it or not. So no one is offended by anyone. And here you have to take such a assumption that the one who will want to leave the comfort zone and make an effort to ask questions and delve into this topic,

sometimes you can even take a wrong turn, because there are a lot of gurus, right? You have to be very careful. Truth will set us free. Truth, if people understand what the universe is, what life is,

what life is, what life is. If they understand this and stop looking only at what they bought, but look much wider, deeper,

listen to their ancestors, free both lines of ancestors from the burden of karma, from curses, from diseases, then it will allow them to look at everything so beautifully and broadly and deeply, that they will stop worrying about the things that are supposed to worry us every day. If something happened, as they say, that there would be death, I'm going back home.

I'm going back where I came from. So, of course, I'd rather have it cleaned up. I've said it every time, I prefer to have it cleaned up. And not always clean it up. I mean, damn, I don't want it to be the plane I recommend, because prefer to have it cleaned up. And not always clean it up. I thought, damn, I hope it's not the plane I'm flying, because I have it not cleaned up. I know, I'm talking nonsense, but just looking at it in a human way.

Have you ever tried to put your experience, what life is like for you, into some religious dogmas? In religion in general?

I mean, I was born in a family that went to church. And when I saw different things in church as a child, I knew something was wrong. And I was always afraid of church. It was so strange that instead of finding peace and feeling some kind of security, I saw the dreadful faces of the priest.

I saw the priest kicking the dog that came in because it was bothering him. I'm talking about the light stuff. The institution of the Church is not faith. Faith and knowledge and understanding are something completely different than religion. Religion is a system that people were supposed to segregate. I believe in this, you believe in that, and now we're going to argue about who's right and who's wrong.

Faith is also a different kind of hope. I don't have faith, I know. I don't have doubts. I don't need hope, I don't need to believe in anything. I just know when it comes to the sacred space, the one from which everything comes. However, people are afraid of knowledge sometimes.

They are afraid that something is so difficult and so complex that it is better to stay in a space they know and walk around to the right or left, right or left. But I noticed that people are afraid of silence. They listen all the time. If not the radio, then the television or talk to someone,

that this silence causes them to meet with themselves, with their doubts, fears. They don't like it. It is discomfort to meet with yourself. It is a great discomfort. But we can only achieve it in silence.

And then this meeting with yourself, when we confess to ourselves, we are afraid of it, we don't like it, here we stood against ourselves. It only allows us to understand each other and then take some steps to free yourself from various burdens.

And above all, we can meet with ourselves always, in every second of our life. We don't have to go to any institution that will help us with this.

We don't have to have any tools in the age attributes, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, gadgets, I don't have to know what happened, but I feel the energy. It really cleanses. Salt, I recommend the same. These are just natural things. But what is important, what Christ said, I don't remember the words, they are not repeated often enough.

The Kingdom of God is in you. You don't need an intermediary. A priest who will take the money and tell you if you can be baptized or not. We are equal in the face of God. And no one is better.

We have the same rights. The one who has come closer to God may be better. But in this sense, I think, although I don't know if I should look at it like that, there is no such thing as someone is better or worse, someone is closer or further from God. But you used to go to church, you said that he helped you with your health. Your son also went to a Catholic school, so you were close to seeing what you didn't like.

Yes. However, there are places, for example in Częstochowa, there are two churches, and not the one in Jasna Góra, but two smaller ones, where I always feel a specialness. There is a great purity there, literally a kilometer from Jasna Góra. There are two places, the New and the Old Church, where priests who speak to people speak with such an enchantment that there is no doubt that the Holy Spirit is present.

Usually something happens at the windows, some amazing light falls, when the chalice is raised, suddenly the light. These are just such metaphysical, beautiful meetings. But many, many, many, too many churches, priests, it is so bloody and so heavily burdened, we know what is happening now, we hear about what is happening in the Vatican and how the priests who wanted to defend the truth

and the children were poisoned, etc. These are very difficult and difficult issues. I don't want to draw people's attention to it, because we have to focus on the divinity and on what we want to create, not what we don't want, but what we want. This is such a trap.

So I like to go to church, but I go alone. And, for example, in the church in Częstochowa, I have a friend who has been friends with Marcin Najman for many years, who is from Częstochowa, and Marcin can arrange everything. I say, Marcinku, I would like to go to church and pray there. Okay, just give me a moment, I'll take care of it. And they open the church, the priest comes, talk to Jesus, to his mother in this church.

And is Marcin Najman just as spiritual?

I think he would be surprised if you invited him to the program. He has a very broad knowledge and he will present quantum physics to him.

It's interesting, I would never have expected that from Marcin Najman.

Really, because it is so that he took on this role, the most popular role we know of, which is sport. However, a person goes through life and learns different things. And for me, he is one of the few partners I can know about everything.

This is an incredible self-taught. This is something very... Tell Marcin Neumann from Freak Fight, which he is talking about.

Yes, and when he is in the role of an athlete and has to deal with people who understand a certain scheme of communication, he can get into it, right? When he is a father of his wonderful, wise daughter, he plays this role wonderfully. When he is a friend, I assure you, he fits this role perfectly. He is one of the few people I or my Alan could rely on. However, he is also a person who has a lot of knowledge, and it is very broad knowledge. So if he ever comes to you, I don't know if he will answer these questions, as he talks to me. You are shocked by this. I talk to him in a quantum physics class.

He was the first to send me, and he arranged a meeting with this professor, an outstanding Polish professor. So, this is the short-term assessment. We all think that if they write something on the headline, it is the only truth and that it is the truth. It is worth remembering that we are in the times of abstraction,

consumptionism. What is sold is important. My work, among others, is about this. Superpower. That what is sold is important. It doesn't matter what the truth is.

But it would be nice if people started to understand this difference. Of course, this is a bit of a joke, a bit of a joke. Sometimes there are interviews where you can invite someone to your life or movies. But often it's just a joke. For the mind, that fast, fast, fast. Sometimes people like to look that someone

something went wrong, someone has worse, uglier photos, someone has broken up, they feel a little better then. What does it mean? It's humiliating to read that someone is worse and that's what you click on. What does it mean? But at the same time, it's worth getting into such a space, because it's one of the important elements of understanding life,

that we're not here to judge. If we can accept that the Earth is one of the most difficult evolutionary schools, then it is enough to understand and remember that each soul comes down in a different time and each soul has its own development calendar and an octahedral cannot be angry at a periodical that it does not understand something and vice versa. So we shouldn't be angry at each other, but possibly set an example, a proof of certain values, so that someone understands,

aha, if she does this, maybe this is how it can be. Okay, that's fine.

But we are also in times where, experiencing God, a lot of traps are waiting for us, where we can either believe in a false guru, and there are a lot of them, where we can either believe in a false guru and feed fear through various events. When we think we're listening to some content about some chaos,

the ends of the world, we think that we are becoming aware in the context of what will happen, and in fact we are feeding the other side and these variants that we would not what will happen. And in fact, we are sending the other side and the variants that we would not like to happen.

But it is true that the end of the world is coming, but the end of the world of those we knew, systems that we knew and in which we were taught to serve. This is the end of this world, but not the universe. This must be understood. And where, in your opinion, is the line between God's experience and

this toxic fashion for spirituality, through which the next product is only

selling and taking our energy?

I was in Fatima a few years ago. Alan was still young then. When I saw the lighters, and the ashtrays, and the gadgets with the image of the Holy Mary,

the Mother of Christ, and with him alone, I understood that something was wrong. And people allow it, someone allows to produce it and sell it en masse in the same place where people go on their knees to pray for healing.

It's been how many years? 18? What's happening today, I would be afraid to go and see. People love gadgets, they have to touch to believe. And this is their great loss because Christ has already left us a chain. Believe and you will be given. So first you have to believe something with all your heart, and then it materializes.

Not that I drink, you show me, and then I may believe. It's the opposite. So those who are in this trap, they just don't experience many things. I don't need proof for God. I just feel Him and then I get proof.

It's the same when I don't believe in love. I believe in love, but when it comes to my life, when it comes to relationships, I already have a tattooed conviction that I will not be happy in a relationship. And it is so convincing to me

that I will not allow any possible relationship because it is very strong in me. I believe in it. So it just manifests. You have to be very careful what you want, what you don't want. Sometimes we have an impact on it, sometimes we don't, but there are such, how to say, such comfortable, sometimes it is comfortable for me that I don't have a relationship,

because the relationship would be a great test for me, already so powerful with my knowledge today, understanding today, what life, space, partnership, the other person, his soul, his evolutionary process, if I would get into a relationship, it would be one of the most important test subjects for me. So I'm not ready for it yet. At this stage, it wouldn't be an easy task either, let's face it. For sure. It's a bit more comfortable, I can do everything I want. It may be a bit difficult for many, but try to hear it with your heart.

Christ was slaughtered, murdered, because he stood against religion. Because he threatened religion. Because the truth he brought and the knowledge he brought would free people from political and religious systems. And that's why he was so disgustingly, spectacularly, terrifyingly murdered, so that no one would dare to carry these words of truth on him. But the words remained on him,

and the witnesses who saw, heard and wrote were not to be erased in history. So, of course, there are distortions, but not everything could be hidden. So it is enough to listen to a few words. Sometimes I watch Mel Gibson's Passions

and I have the impression that every now and then I understand more from these individual, the same words and messages of Christ. I used to think I understood, but after 10 years I finally understood. Last year I think I finally understand what he's saying. And so every time, so there are very deep, simple content. Then Christ spoke in a simple language because he was born in such times

that people had to speak in a simple, he didn't talk about quantum physics. He said, believe and you will be given, because if you believe in something, you give it such a strong, powerful power, sending an electromagnetic field through your imagination, conviction, feelings and faith, that it comes down from the quantum field, becomes denser and goes down to the physical field and manifests itself in our physical world.

It's a big shortcut. and it manifests in our physical world. In a nutshell, you have to take a look at the law of materialization. I'm not a specialist, so I'm just saying what I understand. There are some issues that I understand, but I can't even say them, because I don't know the terminology, I just feel it with my heart. In any case, it's enough if someone had doubts about what is true and what is not. Christ did not want to be admired.

He did not want to be admired at all. He did not want to be... He did not want to be compared to anything. He just wanted to free people from the lack of knowledge. He brought them knowledge and was a teacher of light. The fact that churches, above all, keep the image of Christ who was killed, who was bled, is a special tendency. Because in fact, the essence is not what happened on the cross, but what happened at the end.

Here is the greatest lesson. Resurrection, liberation. That there is something more than what we think there is. He gave his life to prove it to us and show it to us. And to write it down in the history of the world. And people still don't believe it. What's worse, I think that if Christ came now, they would also slaughter him. And that's the worst.

That 2000 years have passed and people still have so many doubts and so much stupidity in themselves, that they know it all. Those who say they know the most, know the least. Those who say they know everything are the most dangerous. And I also think that to catch Christ is the worst. So we didn't understand much, but those who felt and understood are already following Christ's footsteps so much.

I am faithful to Him after all times. And I will try to follow the path of life so that I wouldn't be ashamed as my disciple. What I can say here is that if someone has a doubt about what is truth, where is the boundary of understanding, what is faith, spirituality, divinity, all-creating, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipotent, if someone has a doubt, it is enough to call upon the figure of Christ.

We are in the kitchen, drinking coffee, and we think to ourselves, what if it were Christ? What would He do in this situation? However, in our intuitive, in the root of our association,

we recognize this figure as one of the purest that we can feel. So if we can feel. So if we can imagine what Christ would say, what Christ would do, then we are on the right path.

Would Christ go up the mountain?

No.

Would Christ want to wear gold and tell people to build churches that are dripping with gold? No. He would even walk without shoes. Because that's not what the Kingdom of God is about, that is, the abundance of life. Not in that. In the other person. In love, in experience.

Beauty. In experience, appreciation. Beauty of all creations. After all, looking at only one being, I don't know, let it be a butterfly, let it be an ant. If we observed the cycle of life of one single being, a human, a butterfly or a butterfly,

how fascinating it is. No one could have imagined it better. No one could have imagined it better. Why is it divinity? Because there are no boundaries. If someone wanted to set some boundaries, it would not be God.

Beautiful words. I think it's worth to distinguish that Christ and the Church and the Christian religion are complete worlds.

Of course, a temple can be built so that people can find peace and focus on prayer and understanding. Prayer is also an amazing topic,

because prayers are very distorted. This is another very deep topic, but I will tell you one thing. What is the consciousness of churches and priests? And where can we recognize that there is a lie in it. When the mass begins, the priest begins with the sign of the cross, right?

You remember, you were probably in the church some time ago. And what does the priest do? He shows in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, right? Now, if we drew lines along this gesture, the inverted cross, this is the inverted cross. How many priests have I seen doing this over the years?

Unfortunately, the majority. It is correct that here we have the third eye, then we go to the pupil, which is the place that is...

To the pupil or to the heart?

No, here, below. Below. Where there is a connection, where a new life is created. Right? So, the third eye, intuition, and only here. Then we have a correct cross.

Oh, in this correct cross, ok.

Yes, so we are talking about this, right? Which priest does it? How few priests do it. This is a correct cross if we want to represent the symbol of the cross. But the way they do it, it's the opposite. What is it anyway? I bless you here.

May God protect you. I only know now. Before, I did exactly what the priests showed me. Where is their sense of responsibility for the truth. But it is often the case I also often met different priests and when I talked to them,

because I wanted to talk to them, because I always believed that I could learn more, understand more, they often said that faith deepens during the conversation. Understanding and feeling of divinity deepens during the conversation,

but not during a monologue, when someone confesses, I did this, I did that. You have your conscience, you know you did wrong. If you know you did wrong, don't do it. We are not wrong, we are people, we have the right to learn. If we repeat a lesson many times, then you can already suspect that you are a little bit, maybe not wise,

because doing something once or twice is natural. How are we supposed to learn otherwise than by meeting and having some difficult experiences? This is our way of evolution, that we just learn. You can't learn from books.

I'll end with an edit of our conversation. Edit, first answer, edit, edit of our conversation. If you were to answer the question Who are you? What would you say?

Wow.

I can answer this question in many ways. How do you feel? The first thought that comes to your mind. I am I try to be a humble being of the Holy Spirit. A mother, a friend, a slave sometimes, a music lover. I don't know what else I can say, who I am. A woman. Although it's something like that in the end.

Although now the energy of a woman is awakening and this voice of a goddess will be more and more active in women. Notice, dear ladies, that the goddess is waking up. I am some kind of dust in this great universe. I hope that my puzzle will allow this image to be created, which is being created at the moment with the help of all these conscious souls,

to crystallize and materializing so that we have a beautiful world because we're coming back to heaven, which has been given to us Of course, the devil will not give up without a fight the more conscious he becomes, the more consciousness illuminates this space and then the devil, like on a blazing fire, jumps higher and higher, because he is uncomfortable here, so he will scream louder and louder,

he will be more and more scary, and here, and there, and so on, and so on. So it's enough not to stand against yourself, don't violate your needs, your morality just to please someone. Don't accept words of unkindness and criticism from anyone, because it's only their individual point of view. It's an important lesson for all of us. We are really the way who can look at each other. And every other look is just a subjective look based on someone's individual experience.

If I met a little-experienced person, she wouldn't understand anything I said today. If I met an experienced person, you probably understand everything we talked about today. I didn't feel like you didn't understand it. How's your son doing? Is he growing?

You didn't tell me anything.

He's a big boy now.

How old is he now? Four years old. Four years old and yes, he remembers his aunt who sang beautifully for him. I don't know if he remembers, but we will definitely tell him this story someday. It's amazing. but we will definitely tell him this story one day.

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Oh my gosh.

Thank you too.

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