One Nation overtakes Labor in historic poll result | Sunrise

Well, from bad to worse, One Nation has shot ahead of Labor for the first time in the history of one of Australia's biggest political polls.Today's news poll has also revealed the Prime Minister's popularity is at a record low.It could spell disaster for Labor, who are bleeding support across the country.For their take, let's bring in Social Services Minister Tanya Plibersek and One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce.Good morning to both of you.Tanya, another Monday, yet another poll that shows voters are abandoning the major parties.

Particularly with this one, 70 % of respondents said that Australian politics is overdue for a big shake -up, that the people who built this mess aren't going to fix it.How are you going to fix it, Tanya?

Well, of course, we see those polls and we get the message which is that we need big changes in this country and that's exactly what Labor is delivering.Just in our most recent budget, our most recent budget is about the cost of living for ordinary Australians.It's about lowering taxes, five tax cuts and it's about making sure that people can get into a home of their own.Of course that's controversial because we're saying yes, the housing system has been busted for people trying to buy a home of their own.It's been great for investors but not great for people who want to buy their first home, we're changing that.It's hard, it's controversial, we're having a fight about it right now in the Parliament because it's controversial.

But we get it, we know that the system has not been working.Unfortunately, One Nation is not the answer to that.One Nation is the party that says that workers should be paid less and easier to sack.One Nation's the party that's voted against every cost of living measure that we've tried to introduce as a government.They've voted against cheaper electricity.They've voted against cheaper childcare.

They've voted against free TAFE.And they've got a leader who, while she's saying workers should be easier to sack and paid less, is flying aroundthe country on Gina Rinehart's private jet.One Nation's not the answer to change.We agree this country needs to be changed so that it's fairer, so people get paid more, taxed less, they get the health and education services that they deserve.We agree with all of that.

That's what we're changing.One Nation is the party that's opposing those changes.

You must concede that this most recent budget has delivered One Nation this extraordinary result.24 % support before the budget, 31 % in this poll.Do you concede that?

Look, I think One Nation are obviously having a moment because Australians are crying out for change.What I'm saying is that we're the party that's delivering change and it's controversial.This budget is the great example of that.We are making big changes so that ordinary young Australians can hope to put a roof over their family's head one day.For years, the system has been stacked against them.It's been really hard to get into a home of your own.

That's why we've done so much.That's why our five percent deposit policy is seen about two hundred 230 ,000 people get into a home of their own for the first time in Barnaby's own electorate.It's about two and a half thousand people into a home of their own for the first time.We're making those changes right now.Pauline Hanson's been around politics for three decades and she still has got a list of complaints and no real policies for change.Barnaby's been there almost as long.

He was Deputy Prime Minister of this country for three years.He couldn't manage to make those changes when he was Deputy Prime minister and now we've got to believe that he can make those changes now.

Well Barnaby let's get your response on that.I mean Pauline Hanson saying the last couple of days she hasn't changed the rest of the country's caught up with her but Anthony Albanese simplistic grievance based politics that's what he says One Nation is.Can you turnthis polling into real votes for the next election?

Well, once more, thank you for the talking points, Tanya.That was good.Next time, just email me them.Well, actually, it's...Here he goes.What's the point of me being on this show if you're just talking?

Barnaby, over to you.Over to you, Barnaby, because we have given you a fair share of the interview.You're doing such a good job.Keep going, Tanya.

No, off you go, Barnaby.

I don't know where to...What is the point?If you're that upset, if you're that in a corner, that scratchy, then that just confirms to the listeners what trouble you're in.It just confirms to them what trouble you are in.Now, the One Nation is a reflection of the sentiment of the people.That polling is a sentiment of the people.

The polling are over Labor and they're over the Coalition.Okay, and what they see with One Nation are the skill sets.Even though you've got 489 support staff and the Liberal Party got 89 support staff, we have merely four with six people in the Parliament and they're still giving us the polling they're giving because they're so underwhelmed by what you do.They're underwhelmed by the fact that you lied to them before the Budget.and they did something completely different, so they can't trust you.They feel that their life just does not change.

You talk about the housing crisis, it hasn't changed under you, and to be quite frank, it didn't get much better under the Coalition.They don't believe you because they couldn't believe you before the Budget, so they don't believe your talking points, Daniel.You can babble them out, they just don't believe them.And the issue we're going to have is, you know, we've got to build.One Nation has got an incredible job.But I was just looking the other day, we've got even Tyron Whitten.

He built up a business to $200 million turnover.You don't even hear about him.He's in One Nation.You've got a former CEO of both Collie Cotton and Australian Agricultural Company and a big American agricultural companies.He's in One Nation.

Barnaby, no doubt you have some fantastic candidates and we'll hear more about them closer to the election.But talking of scratchingthere was a scratchy moment for you.