Paradise | Official Podcast Season 1 Recap | Hulu

I'm going to be a little bit more of a

womanizer.

I'm going to be a little bit more of a womanizer.

I'm going to be a little bit more of a womanizer.

I'm going to be a little bit more of a womanizer.

I'm going to be a little better look out for her in season two, everybody. I'm very excited. I'm very excited about that. Who are you married to? I'm literally, literally, literally married into this crazy paradise family because I am married to Sterling Kelby Brown, which I'm very proud to be your wife.

Yay, Ryan Michelle.

So, welcome. All right. We are going to take a look back at season one's wild ride because there's a lot that goes, that happened in season one that maybe you thought there was a button on or a bow on,

but then it comes back.

So, this episode, we're gonna be picking all of that apart by diving into season one of Paradise, which is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. And who better to tee everything up for us than Dan the Man, our showrunner, Dan Fogelman. My man. So here we are.

What's up?

What's up, Dan?

How you doing, buddy?

I'm good, I'm good.

Good to see you.

Okay, so who wants to jump into the look back

Everything that happened.

Of everything that happened, and who wants to start us off with like season one? get everybody up to speed and get us all here on the same page. So the first question I have is like, I am very like worried about an apocalypse. Did this come to be because you are as worried about an apocalypse as me and your inability to survive said apocalypse?

Like, how did we get here?

You know, it's funny, of all my many neuroses and concerns, apocalypse is not really one of them. So that's not really where I start. Like I'm one of them. So that's not really where I start. Like, I'm one of those people who thinks they could win Survivor.

Really?

Dude, what the hell?

I'm very...

I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to be, like, taking my clothes off in front of America and whatnot. But, like, I feel very confident I'd win Survivor.

Dude, really?

Get out.

Yeah.

Okay, okay. That's a crazy crap. I feel I'd beat Sterling in basketball and I'd win Survivor. He doesn't, he's laughing. He said that just because I hurt my leg.

You can beat me now. So you think you could win Survivor,

you think you could survive an apocalypse, so. No, but I think for me, you know,

I had this idea for the show like 10 years ago. Really? I had had a meeting, I've told this story before, but I had a meeting with a very successful man of business. And as I was in the room with him, I started wondering to myself as he was talking, I was like, how many people does this person have serving him?

And it made a mark on me, not necessarily good, bad, or other, it just was striking to me at the time. And I was driving home from that meeting, it might have been like 15 years ago, and I was driving through Culver City and a crane dropped something really big and it made a loud boom.

And it was one of those moments where we were like, whoa, is something really happening right now? And I was like, I wonder what happens to this guy in that moment? Like, with all the people that he has under his employ and all the resources he has, like at the end of the day, don't all those people go running for their own people? And I started thinking about a secret service agent

and a president, like the man of utmost power in a position of utmost power, and the guy whose job is literally to take a bullet for that guy and what happens when the shit really hits the fan. And that was like the kernel of the idea

I started having all the way back then. So it was less about, like, my fears of an apocalypse, and it was more about how far would you go to protect your own, what happens to people in power when those people they have working with them and for them might turn to their own, and how would those people start planning for something

if they had the resources and the time to plan for it long in advance.

Have you guys heard, like, since the show came out in season one, all these stories about underground bunkers? Totally. Like, things that, like, I didn't know was a thing before, and then you're like, slowly but surely, it's like, oh, this shit is happening.

Yeah. Yeah. For real. For real.

Have you seen it?

I mean, did they influence, or did you stay on the kernel of the idea and then this just happens to be in the zeitgeist? I stayed on the kernel of the idea. I mean, and then, and one day I just sat down and wrote it. And I think, yeah, I just wrote it. And I think I was, as I've talked about, I was unwittingly writing it picturing Sterling

in my mind's eye for Xavier. We had never spoken about it. And I gave it to a few people and people were responding to it. I had not given it to Sterling yet. And I sat down with a couple of my writers

who were on the show to this day, John Hoberg and Scott Weinger. And I said, let's bat this around where this goes because I don't wanna, if I give it to people, people are gonna wanna make it. but I don't think I know what it's about quite yet. And I think at that point, we did a lot of research. We started doing a lot of sociological studies on the billionaire class and environmental climate change

and environmental catastrophe. And that's when a lot of what the show became started forming, and that's when I developed my kind of master plan for what the show would be. It was after I'd written the pilot, and then I went back and adjusted the pilot and then I sent it, Sterling was probably the third person,

fourth person to get it.

When in the timeline did you give it to him? Like how long before?

It was long before, I mean, I'd sent it to my producing partner and John and Scott to sit down, Jess, and those three people kept saying, what did Sterling think of this? And I was like, I haven't sent it to Sterling. Like you wrote it for him though, though, clearly.

And I was like, no, I really was just writing. And then I think I had to do a little, I was worried that Sterling wasn't gonna wanna do it. That he was gonna want it.

Really?

As soon as I read it, I think I, did was like, I'm in, right? And he said, he thought I said, amen, amen. I was like, why would I say amen? And he said, he wasn't 100% sure. That's what happened. And so, yeah, and then we had a moment of clarity

and we moved on from there. The exact story is that,

but I'd sent it to Sterling like on a Tuesday and I like, and this was like, it's kind of opening yourself up. You're sending it to one of your guys, and you're like, I don't want to put Sterling in a tough spot where he has to say no to something with me.

And so all those things were nerve-wracking, and I sent it to Sterling, and he called me. You were sick, Sterling. You were under the weather And Sterling called me, and I saw it with Sterling calling. I remember, like, I never get nervous anymore, but I was like, oh, I'm nervous because I really do want him to do this now, and I might not make it

if it's not. And he was like, Dan, this is really good. Where does it go? Because obviously, that would be the question anybody has after reading the pilot. I started pitching him, season one is this, season two is this, it's eight to 10 episodes. Like I told him, and at a certain point in saying that, he said, amen, I thought he would say.

And I was like, oh, Sterling's developing this like, affectation now that like, he says amen, like, you're in church. And so I just kept going and I was like, no, no, well in season two, this will happen. And then he said, no, Dan, I'm in. And that was it.

And that was our handshake. And I think we saw, I think the series was sold and set up and on, like, within 24 hours.

I said, I said to you, I said, could we

shoot it in Los Angeles?

Yes.

Right? I was like, dude, if we can make all of that happen, I can't wait to get in the sandbox. And then 20th slash Gulu agreed to shoot it here. And it's awesome too, because honestly, over the past several years, a lot of production has left Los Angeles. So I'm very happy to be one of the things

that's still here. So we gotta talk about, because again, secret keeping over here, you guys. I mean, and you keep it to the very end. The timing of it is... So, first of all, that's when I want... The first question I had is...

How did you catch the reveal at the end of episode one, season one? What do you remember?

Was it something with the sun? Or what was it? I can't remember.

You look over at the bus station sign and the thing says that, like, the sun...

There's been a maintenance problem. Yes, yes, yes. And then that, but then it was like, okay, so this is, it was, you know, I still didn't quite understand. I knew, I knew at that moment that we were not where we thought we were. But, it wasn't until, but how did you keep such a big secret like that under, you didn't,

you didn't, when you even looking back at season one on the publicity, it's very much giving, Sterling's very much giving his Sterling, you know that thing that he, you know, you talk, you know, he does that thing,

you know, where it's like, y'all know that thing.

I don't know what you're talking about.

It's like, I'm serious.

I'ma shoot you, right?

I think that the hook was as important as the show and if you can get away you rob the audience of something take it from that okay, I like that

though that's good.

No it's good, I mean I think part of it was a really good job by the powers that be in our company that they sold it is like a political thriller with the secret, but they didn't sell it as an apocalyptic thing we're trying to get the secret away too quickly. Yeah, and our cast sterling and James and Julianne primarily, were really good at talking about the show

without talking about the show. And I think if you, in this day and age, if you're able to say there's something that changes the game at the end of the pilot, there's a secret, there's a twist, and you're able to say it in a way

and have the actual twist that's worthy of that titillating kind of preview of it, then it only makes people lean in harder and want to hear about it, I think. So that was part of it. And then part of it was, you know, we had conversations, and again,

our studio and network really trusted us and me that they not only kept the secret going up until the first episode aired, but through many months of it coming out so that people were able to discover it on their own. And that was really exciting, um,

to just watch people in real time catch on. And I think, um, I was very conscious when we shot this pre, uh, this first episode way back when, I screen a lot, because I wanted to have... The only way to really know how these twists are gonna work is watching people watch it.

And then I grill people after and I say, what was your experience? Like Sterling was just asking you, like, when did you lock in on the secret? There's like 12 different spots in the final minute and a half of the show where people start going, -"Huh, something's weird." And we played with that.

We played with how direct we were gonna be. We played with, um, in our final visual effect of the reveal of the cave. Right around Christmas time, we were airing in January, and I had to cut it home and I screened it for my family who was visiting for Thanksgiving. And so after it ended, I was like,

asking them what they thought. And my brother-in-law, he was like, are they in outer space?

Oh my God.

And I was like, Josh, you're an idiot. And I was like, no, they're not in outer space. But then I started hearing that a couple of times when I was screening it to be. One out of every 10 people would say something about outer space. I was like, where is this coming from?

And I realized that there was like, in our final visual effect that had first being put in the show, there was a little bit of darkness and some red lights. It read a little like where Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader read at the end. And I was like, oh no, I have to take this out. And so I actually wound up keeping our visual effects team all through the holidays, getting paid like triple time.

And I felt terrible, but we actually changed the final visual effect to see more of the underground rock because at the last minute, my screenings were going left a little bit

for one out of every ten people. So you have a job to do for the rest of the world. We are anxiously awaiting your your words and I know that you are in the midst of writing and doing all the important things that an important day in the man does. So we are we are very very thankful that you took this time. I know we're gonna be able to see you at some other point in the midst of all of this, and we're very, very excited. Yes.

And yeah, we won't take up any more of your time, so go finish writing.

It is my pleasure, guys. Can I just give a note, since it's on the show?

Please, yeah, absolutely.

Less of me and more of these two is my note. Oh, it's way more this one over here. I'm just here to help out. All right, dude, you're free.

Thank you very much, buddies.

Y'all take it easy.

Thank you, guys. Bye.

Okay, so we are gonna take a podcast pause.

Okay.

All right, listen, we just go back. Let's start at the top and review everything that happened. President Cal Bradford, played by Jemarius Marston, is dead. And Secret Service agent Xavier Collins is a suspect. We know that he didn't do it, but President Bradford is gone.

Xavier is the number one suspect, and also the number one lead person trying to figure it out. While raising his two kids, Presley and James, all by himself. Okay. So then, we figure out that this isn't actually a murder mystery. It's the end of the world.

So now we realize that we are actually in a bunker under a mountain in Colorado, and it's called Paradise. Okay, so then, we meet Sinatra. She's like the richest woman in the world, she's one of the smartest women in the world, and she's the mastermind behind this whole bunker situation. And we find out that her son has also passed away

when he was very, very young. So then, things get really crazy with Sinatra because we start to sort of peel back the layers to who she is a little bit, and we start to realize that she's like this onion. That's when she enlists Xavier's best friend, Secret Service agent Billy Pace,

to go kill some people who decided to go and see what's out there. Because she realizes that if anyone inside the bunker knows that there's even a slim chance that anyone that they loved or lost could be alive outside the bunker,

all hell's gonna break loose. And this is, I think, when we realize that Sinatra is the one who's not just the architect of this whole thing, but the boss of this whole thing. She also orders Billy's crazy girlfriend, Jane, to kill him to keep him quiet for what he did, because he knows where all of her bodies are buried.

And she does it quite gleefully, which is a little crazy and terrifying. Jane is terrifying. Okay, so Xavier teams up with another Secret Service agent, Robinson. They need each other to figure out what's going on with Sinatra and to take her down ultimately and see if that's even possible.

And that's when we get, they're lying to you. Okay, that's when things start to cook. And through an incredibly thrilling and terrifying flashback episode, that incredible episode seven, we get the story of how these 25,000 souls ended up living in this bunker.

Basically, a giant volcano triggered worldwide tsunamis, and all the big nuclear powers totally freaked out and started getting ready to nuke each other. President Cal, in spite of everyone telling him not to, he stepped up and he told the American people, like, what's really going on.

And then everything just kind of goes... It goes, tits up, guys. Okay, so then Xavier feels like Cal betrayed him because Terry got stranded in Atlanta, huge city, almost certain death. And he thinks Cal could have done more.

But back in our current timeline, Sinatra gives Xavier actual proof that Xavier Collins' wife, obviously not me, we're talking about Terry Rogers Collins, is alive outside the bunker. So, of course, that isn't the end,

because Mr. Dan Fogelman has to propel us forward into season two. So, Agent Xavier Collins decides he's going to leave his children with Agent Robinson, and he leaves the bunker to find his wife.

So he finds this little prop plane, no clue what's out there, just kind of like a little bit of a glimmer of hope. And he looks at the camera and he says,

I'm coming, baby.

Welcome back, everybody, to this very special episode of the Paradise podcast, where we are gonna look back at season one as we get ready for the big season two premiere. And I am beyond excited to introduce the OG president of Paradise to be set with us.

And of course, I am talking about the one and only Jemarius Marsden, everyone.

Jemarius, Jemarius Marsden.

That will never get old.

You all call him James Marsden. You all know him as President Cal Bradford. May he rest in peace. Gone, but not forgotten and not definitely not forgotten from our hearts. And he's in season one, he's in season two, thank God. Because you were incredible.

We're just gonna move on from there. Let's start with my least favorite part of the entire show, which is your murder.

Okay, that's fair.

Because we know you die, but we don't know how. But then it like unspools in episode seven. I don't even think we need to, I didn't need to see it. It was too much for me to see. So let's talk about that. What is it like as an actor to say yes to something where you know you die?

Like I die in page one, so I guess I'll take the job.

Well, I'm noticing a sort of worrying trend with some of the roles I've been taking. I die quite a bit. You do? I do. I do. Dead like me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then I'm also brought back quite a bit. And dead to me, Westworld, often die all the time. They can't waste this big dog. They like to kill it. They like to kill it. And then he's bringing back and killing again. So you kind of do that. We do that a little bit with timeline jumps in Paradise. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Passed out, not really passed out.

No, dead.

Bleeding out on the floor in episode one. Yeah, I mean, I knew that the whole show was going to be timeline jumps and told from jumping back in time, so I was more interested in seeing what the story was and how he ended up on the floor bleeding out. And if it was compelling, which it was,

it was like, yeah, I'm all in. So, and it was probably the most colorful character arc that I've ever gotten to play starting dead. Or maybe the only character arc I've gotten to play starting dead.

Yeah, yeah.

So it was great.

You're great, James. Man, you're great. Yeah, yeah. So it was great. You're great, James.

Man, you're great.

No, no, no. Hold on. I'll wax for a second, and then I'll let Ryan ask questions, and you can respond to them. But there is the balance of humor, of pathos. And I think a lot of the colors that are actually you,

and I mean that in the most sincere way. You're a good man. Oh, man. And I think a lot of people... And I think this happens with the extremely attractive, because you are extremely attractive. People like to sell the extremely attractive short, as if that's all they have to offer, right?

But Marsden has everything. He has humor. He can act his ass off, and if you need somebody to communicate goodness on screen, it's right there. Like it's everything that you could hope for in a president, right? And it's not anything on the nose about it. Like you are picture-perfect, brother. I told this dude in episode 7, what'd I say to you, Jumerius. I walked up to you

That's it. Are you ready for number two? What and what did I mean by that? Amen? I mean, I'm Did I call I was like this is a very bold man Not that's my ground that he's familiar with. That's my dude Call it and I think you know what I did since that day what you know I stressed about how I Was gonna tell you that you were wrong

He's gonna how's he gonna handle this I don't want to be embarrassed When he was giving his present, episode seven, 107, when we find out how the world sort of ends, and he was giving his speech to the people, and he does two speeches. One, the first one is sort of by rote,

like he's looking into the teleprompter

and he's saying his words, right?

When the dust clears from this tragic day, we will go forward as Americans, as a beacon of strength in a sometimes dark world.

The second one is like, you know what? I can't bullshit the people.

Wait.

Give me a sec.

Like they deserve a chance to decide how they want to spend their last moments. James comes in, he has huge passages of dialogue that he knows ice cold every single time. That first scene we met. Yes, bro! It's me just sort of like not doing it. of dialogue that he knows ice cold every single time.

That first scene we met.

Yes, bro.

Of course, the interview scene. It's me just sort of like not, you're trying to like pull Xavier to get to say something. I'm like, nah, I'm just going.

I was like, this is it. I think that was maybe day three or four or something. Maybe day two for me. And it was nice because it was like, there's some really, really great stuff. I hear you're the best of the best. And it doesn't hurt that you're black.

So I'm here because I'm black.

You're here because you're good. And the other guy was boring and old. It just doesn't hurt that you're black.

Does my directness bother you? No, sir.

In episode seven, not only do you save the day, but you set up the whole fact that the world keeps on spinning, right? Yeah. But you give just enough people just enough time for there to even be survivors, right, in that one moment. When you decide, I've given the speech,

and now I'm just gonna be me and tell people what I would want to hear.

I know you're aware of the situation we now face.

And I want to tell you the truth.

And then the second one was when you have that moment. With the EMP thing, right? And you have the ability to say, none of us are gonna, I'm gonna make sure that whatever happens is not gonna be nuclear holocaust.

Some colonel had an idea to create a switch that would fry every electronic circuit on Earth. It's a switch that would shut off the world. But that was better than the alternative. Because it would give people a chance. He's in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, of course.

And Sinatra has good points. She really does.

We'll lose communication from the bunker. We won't know what's going on in the outside world. Right. Yeah. You know. This gives people a chance.

It does give people a chance.

Yeah.

But like you play that scenario out. I mean that could be more suffering. It could be you know there will be more deaths, and, you know, but, um, but I do feel like he was searching inside himself and going, what is the right thing to do here? And we need to have hope, and if we don't have hope, then what have we?

Um, speaking of Sinatra, I'm glad you mentioned her. Thank you. That gives me a really good segue to talk about the murder, because season one ultimately is the murder mystery, right? It's a whodunit. And we can introduce some of these other characters who are so central to this whodunit. Is it Billy? Is it Jane?

At the end, we realize that Jane's our friendly neighborhood psychopath. We love Jane. And Sinatra. So at the end, so as season one is unfolding, right, we get to know these other characters, which is, you know, you and what is your relationship like for you

with Sinatra given the dynamics of power?

You know, they go back, you know, many, many, many years working for his father and they had a good relationship. And I think there's still something there, but when it becomes the sort of, the power dynamics start to shift, and once we're in the bunker,

the president's not really...

It's a paper presidency.

Yeah.

When the president of who? President of what, at least 20,000 people or what have you? Like, that scene, I can't remember what episode it was. I want to say 105, but shows you guys on the porch.

Yeah.

And you are having your conversation. She's like, I want to see what it looks like when you have balls. And you're like, hey man, you can't tell me what to do. I'm the president. You know what I'm saying?

And she's like, what you going to do, man? What you going to the place and she's like she does not want you to Emp or what not and you're like hey, I'm my fucking president The power that I do that is yeah and then to find out once he gets into the bunker He can't even get into I can't even get into my own iPad

No, I mean To have been a moment for Cal when he realized and maybe there was a, maybe you can tell us, was there a relief when he realized, oh, I'm really not the president anymore. Like, I'm really not in charge. I mean, we don't really see that moment happen, but there had to have been a moment, you know,

where you, is it when the plane lands, you get in the bunker and you're like,

my work here is mean, you see where we come from. And he's haunted by that as they go into the bunker, and that has an effect on him for sure. But, you know, the laws of cause and effect have been turned upside down, and everything's starting from scratch here. And the billionaires are the ones with more power,

and he's sort of the face of leadership for the people there And he's I mean, it's almost like he became he went from the president to the mayor And I think that he has a he hasn't I don't know he has a tendency in our habit to Maybe block some things out of his mind and sleepwalk a little bit. And there were actually scenes too that we didn't end up shooting, but you know, smoking, like he just was a wreck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think we pulled that back a little bit here and there. But there's an awakening I feel like he has. And maybe, you know, I think obviously him getting the recordings about the people up top.

That's huge.

Yeah.

Yeah. There's a, there's a, not a coup, but like an unsanctioned, you know, killing because you send the scientists out into the world because people deserve to know. Yeah.

Right. And then ultimately at the end of the day, those scientists are murdered. They need to know.

By Sinatra.

And you're like, I know what you did. Like, I think at that point, you're like, oh, the power has really... I don't have it.

I thought I did.

Because it also plays out in what you do, again, to recap. All of the clues that you lay behind, right? For your son. And for him. you do again to recap all of the clues that you lay behind, right, for your son and for him. But really, I mean, I feel like it's almost like a parting gift to your son,

which is like, I'm not who you think I am and I don't have time to tell you who I really am because time has run out for me.

Yeah, I remember having a real interesting conversation

with Dan about whether or not he knew he was going down. Right, right. Meaning like, you know, because the last thing I wanted it to be is feel like he was some martyr.

Right, right, right, right, right.

It was like, I'm doing all these things and I'm gonna break your hearts after you leave and I'm gonna let you get the jet, you know. But I think we came to the point of like, no, I think that he realizes the threat level is through the roof. You know, there's a big bounty on his head at this point because he's going in and upsetting everything.

You're messing with the status quo.

Yeah, for sure. But I think that this is where he finally, you know, stands for something. After years of maybe feeling like he wasn't standing for much. So when he got the recordings, he realized what was happening. You know, hell or high water, I'm going to block her from doing all of this, to use my power as much as I can to do that. And then in addition to that,

since I can't have this conversation with my son directly, I'm going to have it through music. I'm going to have it through an audio message. And I don't think, I do think he really wanted to still continue to find him and have that conversation. It was just a planted, if I'm not here, you know.

Because I think even when I go in and talk to Sarah's character, there's a feeling of...

If anything happens to you, don't touch Billy Pace. You're thinking that. Exactly. And so that there's a very real threat there that he might just not make it. And it's a funny thing,

because the audience at that point knows.

Right.

Right, so they know, because they see it in episode one, but you want to, you know.

I'll say this, just to add, as now parents of a teenage boy, like, it's like, I feel like I need to make a few recordings right now,

because it's hard to get through to these kids. No, but that was also what was so interesting to me. Because even if there was no paradise, no bunker, no president, just a man and his son, like that also is very real when they're at a point where they don't want to listen. But unfortunately, you really do have to listen because it's the end of the world.

But it's so interesting because our kids think we're stupid. Like this thing happens where they they go from thinking that you're really Really smart or you know, hopefully they think you're smart at some point to like, you know no, you don't know anything about anything, you know and What I think is so interesting about that is that you no one plays stupid you don't play stupid But what I love about your character...

No! No, no, no, no, no.

What I realized after watching all of it, you use the stupidity as an armor. It's literally, like, your way of being, like, this is the one thing...

But disarmament, do you mean?

Well, both.

Because it's like, it disarms people. You're able to be charming, but I think you know, at the end of the day, the thing that is going to trip everyone up about you is that they're gonna underestimate you. And you allow them to do it.

And I think that that is genius.

Yeah, well, I wish I could claim that that was his end game all along. But yeah, I mean, sure. Like, that's a nice, uh... That's a... No, that's a nice, uh...

Jemarius, it's true, and we're going with it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

No, it's how you make the character so incredibly layered, and I think it's what gives us such an in to the heart of the character. And why we, you know, I joke a lot, I joke a lot, I joke a lot, but we really do fall head over heels in love with this character, and it's because of how you play him.

Well, that's very nice of you to say. I mean that very genuinely. And I just wanted people to feel like, oh, maybe this is what it would look like if I was president. Sure.

You know, he may be, do I trust foreign policy with him? Do I trust a nuclear, like you said, a nuclear winner? I don't know, but at least hopefully he's, you wanna have a drink with him. He's not unintelligent.

He is a man with a very strong moral compass.

We're gonna save you for what it's worth. You're probably better off not having any more kids. Smart move right now. Definitely a very, very smart move.

Not sure I understand, sir.

That'll be all, Agent Collins.

Yes, sir.

You are a delight.

Well, thank you.

Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for showing up and doing this with us. I know that this whole podcast of it all is a new thing that we're doing, but I also think it's a really wonderful way for us to get to process such a huge show that we are so emotionally invested in. And it's because of you guys, the we fall in love with you, but we fall in love with this that happens between you guys as well. So thank you, thank you for that. Thank you for your work and your

artistry and I don't think that we're officially all caught up because I don't think we can ever really get caught up because so much happens. But our look back is hereby complete. I declare it complete. And thank you to all of you for watching and listening at home or work or a car or maybe even in your own bunker. Go ahead, Burt. Go ahead.

So we're gonna see you all soon to kick off season two.

Right on. All right.

Paradise, the official podcast, is now streaming.

And stream Paradise season two on February 23rd on Hulu And stream Paradise season two on February 23rd on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+.