Patrice Evra Cerita Tentang Taktik Sir Alex & Allegri, Momen Main Bareng Buffon, Pirlo, CR7 & Tevez!

The most beautiful player in the world

The most beautiful player in the world

You said that Alexey is the most beautiful player in the world

No, he didn't like Alexey I love Alexey, but I don't like this tactical He said very defensive I agree, and that's why people don't understand Alexey, he said, oh if you want beautiful or whatever Go to watch circus

When I win, because my mom is French my dad from Senegal when you win you're a French player when you lose you're from Senegal. But why France is not playing beauty football? What? What do you mean? I love your podcast now I think I will go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sure? But guys, to be honest, I did a lot of podcasts. This is the best podcast in the world.

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Because... Because...

What's the rule?

Regulation.

Rules.

Because rules in this league is...

Messy.

Messy.

Why we talk English? Why? Because it's special. Special.

Special edition.

Yes.

Profile. What, what profile?

He from France, playing with Manchester United, playing with Juventus.

Okay, okay.

Your idol.

Yes, yes. But I'm cry. Why? Because Champions League lost in final.

Okay.

He lost in final. Okay. He with Pirlo, with Apace Carlitos.

Apace Carlitos.

Lost in final.

Okay.

Let's not talk about it. Let's introduce him. Okay.

Let's go.

I love this guy.

Please welcome, Patrice!

Legend!

Legend, bro!

Zio Pau!

In here!

Thank you.

Patrice!

Zio, Zio.

How are you?

I'm good. I'm still alive. You like Indonesia? I love it. I mean, look, the atmosphere, you're funny, you're nice. The food is amazing, the people are welcoming with so much love. I love Indonesia, of course.

But we would like to say sorry about our English, okay?

No, your English is actually good.

Okay, okay. You listen, you guys listen.

You're talking too much.

Because my English is... Petris, ever say that.

See you, Pet.

Say, my English is good.

Okay, you listen.

Exactly.

Okay. Let's go.

But about the food in Indonesia, you try some food? Yeah, I don't remember the speciality but anyway I love rice, I love beef, I love satay So we had like some good food in the hotel but I didn't went yet for local food I think after the podcast I will go to eat some local food

Okay, recommendation, you give recommendation for Efra?

Tai jan, tai jan Tai jan, spicy, you give recommendation for Efra? Thai Chan.

Thai Chan, spicy but I like spicy food. You like spicy? Yeah I love spicy food. Thai Chan is... Taburai. Taburai.

Oh yeah, Prasnegu.

Your friend, your friend.

That's why you send me there, because your friend.

This is your first time going to Indonesia? No, no, no. It's not my first time. It's my second time. We come Jakarta with Juventus. But I would say it's my first time where I can visit, you know, coming in your podcast, going in the street. Because when you travel with the team, you just do stadium and hotel. So you don't see that much.

Pre-season.

Juventus?

Yeah, Pramusim. With Masimiliano Allegri.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. No, it's completely different because when I came the first time it was just for work, playing. Now I came with offside and they make sure I love Indonesia so they show me a good place, we are in a nice hotel. Yesterday I drive with Banja, you know Tuk Tuk like Banja?

Banja, Banja, Banja.

To see a little bit, so yeah, I love it.

He is a very fan of Juventus.

Yeah, I can see. Good shirt. My blood is Bianconeri. Exactly, so I think we should just talk, me and you, because this is, he's a Liverpool... So I don't know why you next to him.

Yeah, exactly. No, no, what?

Try to tell Efra that you are number one Juventus fan in Indonesia. What's the example? What example you are number one fan?

I cry many many times because of you.

Oh my god.

Careful.

No, no, no. But about Juventus, a month ago you take a video because Igor Trudor sacked Juventus and you send message.

Message, message, message.

No, no, no.

Send message.

You like massage?

I know you like massage.

Very well.

He's like...

Send message to a player. Yes. Why you take this video? Because Every club I play so I'm always attached I did this video because I don't like when a manager gets sacked I think sometimes the player need to take their responsibility

So I say make sure you know, you look yourself in the mirror and always blaming the manager But we are on the pitch. It happened to me only once in all my career when David Moyes got sacked and I was really sad. I felt like I failed. And yeah, I sent this message because he's not a critic. He's strong, but he's to encourage the team to wake up.

And now we can't, like, sack manager and the same player stay. So you have to do your job in the pitch because you have so many fans behind you. And you know when you play football you're under pressure and you have to do the job.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you tell something about TikTok. Players thinking about TikTok. Yeah, listen, I'm in social media, I'm in a lot of platforms. I have fun, you make people happy But I just feel this new generation. I call it the tick-tock generation They are more soft than than our generation and sometime I feel like instead of like focus on

Winning game, you know, they're more about like I will say Brown fashion rapper. So it's too much distraction. I don't blame them That's why many pundit in TV. Oh, they're doing this they're doing that No, this is their time and it is difficult for them. But yes, it's a completely different generation Because we used to eat sleep football now They do so many things and you know when you do so many things, you can't focus on your job. Your job is to train and play and win for the fan.

Yes, and training very hard. Very hard.

For your generation.

We're training really hard and especially at Juventus. Every time I say I did nine years at Man United, but playing for Juventus two years and a half was like... wow. United, I feel like I was on holiday compared to Juventus. You know, even Zinedine Zidane, you vomit because you run too much. It's really, really hard.

Is it different when you're first scorer in Italy, right? Yes. And after that you play in England, then come back to Italy with Juventus in Turin. Is it different in first time in Italy?

No, actually same. Everyone, every club have the same mentality, the same way they prepare game. But Juventus is the hardest. Like even people say AC Milan is hard also, but Juventus, the training, they control what you eat, you have blood tests every week, they even give you a machine so when you sleep you put it, when you wake up you give to the club so they know how many

hours you sleep so you can't go to the club or whatever, they track everything. It's a different level. I remember me and Paul Pogba, because when you eat, you know, they serve you. It's not like you go to a buffet. And sometimes you see guys with a big portion of food, someone with like medium, someone small. I was like, this is weird. So me and Paul Pogba, we went in the kitchen and in the kitchen you have the picture of each player and you have a color. So when you have green, you have a big portion. When you have orange, you have a medium.

And when it's red, it's like doing the Ramadan. You have like nothing on your plate. It's really like fasting. So I told you, they look every detail. But you have good adaptation? Yes, it was England life. It was

Good because I play in Italy But some player he was really tough like Mario Manzucchi Dani Alves some player they cry because they were like wow, we just run we feel like we were like horses like Every day just run run run. I remember when we did a pre-season and for one week we didn't touch the ball. One week it was just you come to train and run.

Even sometimes Champions League game, after the game at midnight we have a gym in the stadium and you have to do the gym after the game.

Wow. Train hard.

Now I know why Manzoukć is not smiling in his face. You can't smile because you're angry every day. Every day you want to kill someone. You can't smile when you're Juventus.

How about La Apace, Carlos Tevez?

You said in England, in Manchester United, when he's training, he slowed in Juventus. He did it.

In Juventus, Carlito Tevez was like this. Even in Manchester, Manchester City, when I see Carlito Tevez, I didn't recognize him. So, he was always calling me before I signed for Juventus. Oh, Patrice, come. You know, he is amazing. You know, we have Pirlo, Buffon, Chiellini, Bonucci, whatever Then when I arrived I said but Carlito you didn't tell me the training session was so hard

Why? He said because I don't I didn't want to die alone How In in team many many leaders in this team? Yes, you say Buffon, Carlitos, Pirlo, how do you manage? The manage is in locker room, everyone talking or one or two? Leader. I think Max Allegri is a really smart manager. So before the season starts, he brings six players in his office.

It was me, Buffon, Chiellini, Bonucci, Marchisio and Lichteiner. So he said, the season is going to start. He said, you are the heart of the dressing room. You are like my leader. He said, sometimes you're going to play, sometimes you're going to not play, but don't betray me. So when you shook his hand, you don't betray me. What he means? It means sometimes, you know, in the dressing room when the player they don't play, oh, I don't play, the manager is bad and all of that and we will go. Hey, stay quiet. We have one job. We have to focus. We're all together. So he give us, of course, me I was the one

talking, you know, before the game, you're're allowed you're allowed to do that But because he give you the green light and I love I love this mentality strong mentally

Maximo Allegri, you said Allegri

No, he didn't like Allegri I love Allegri, but I don't like this tactical He said very defensive I agree and that's why people don't understand Allegri He say oh if you want beautiful or whatever go to watch circus It's It's like Juventus you need to win, even if you win 1-0 but tactically he's the best manager I had. I remember we play a game

against Dortmund and before the game so it was a quarter-final Champions League he said oh this is gonna be a friendly game, easy game. When we play against, you know, small team or whatever, Genoa, he's crazy, come on, we need to focus. So the tactic, I remember, it was the midfield, they just need to open,

and Bonucci just go straight pass to Tevez. So we did it in training, but with no open, and I said, these things will never work. He's crazy, he thinks like Dortmund players will just follow their player and leave the space in the middle. Everything he says, it happens. That's the only game in all my career, it was like in French we say déjà vu, like something you already see. It was the most easy game, we win 3-0, even the Dortmund fans, they clap, they give applause to us

because it was too easy. Every time I got the ball, I know exactly what to do because we did a tactic and it happened the same way.

What a big difference about tactical in Manchester United

and in Juventus?

Manchester is no tactic. Manchester, they rely on the individual. Like Sir Alex Ferguson, in nine years, he never tell me go left, go right. He say, if you don't cross or if you don't give assist or if you defend well, not well, I will kill you. So that's a different, it's a different management.

No, in Manchester, when we had Carlos Queiroz, yes, we had a tactical. That's why 2008 we win against Barcelona, we prepare well the game and whatever. But when Carlos Queiroz left, he was more with the individual. Even if Rene, you know, the Dutch, they came, but it was completely different. But Man United is play forward. When you get the ball, even a defender, if I have no option, I shouldn't do back pass.

Just play forward. 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 in Champions League. In Manchester United, you just coaching by Sir Alex Ferguson. Ferguson and David David. And in Italy with Allegri. You agree if Allegri go to Manchester United someday? Yes, it was close. One moment even I say to the club when he left Juventus he should come to to Man United because I think Man United needed a structure

Maybe like you say Sometime he can be boring, but even when we were playing 3-5-2 with with Allegri He was still scoring a lot of goal, you know But yes, I wanted him to go because also he wanted me to go with him. When I say Allegri must go to Manchester United because a fan Manchester United attacked me. Yeah I know and I think a lot of fans don't like Allegri, a lot of fans and I don't understand

why you see now he go AC Milan, AC Milan is doing much better. He understands football. He understands football and yes, it's not beautiful. But at the end, what the fans they want, they want both beautiful football and win. It's just focus on winning. You see when he left Juventus, Juventus down. And now when I went to Turin, the fans, oh we miss Max, we miss Max.

Yes.

You always play with big players. In Manchester United you play with many big players, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, and Juventus you play with Pirlo, Chiellini, Paul Pogba. I want to know how about the training every day and how about life every day? You are enjoying the moment, just enjoy,

or work hard every day? So at Man United, like I say, training was good because it was always like game, but we were no friend. So many times Ferguson have to stop the training session because we were like broken legs. So this was the winning mindset mentality. At Juventus, it was just working out.

Like it was like working out, but that's why it's difficult for me what was the best team between 2008 at Man United or when I was at Juventus because you have personality Character so at the end we were like the old captain on the pitch. But yeah, I will say at United

speed Strong, you know hard but Juventus was more tactic. Okay. I always say because people ask me what's the the difference between Premier League or Serie A. So Serie A is like a chess game. You have to play with your head. Yes, everything they do is calculated. They're gonna say even who this team around 78 minutes they get tired. We should attack here or whatever.

In Premier League is like two boxer you fight I give you you give me and the one you cow you win the game. So it's completely different football You can't say this is harder or whatever Premier League is more entertaining But Syria is more like chess game tactic everything about tactic Even when you concede corner kick or we do like video Why we can see too many corner kick not even a goal even when you concede corner kick the allegory go crazy

And and now

Many players don't want to go to Syria. You think it's... why? No, because they know, I think, how hard it is. And you remember back in the day, we just watched Serie A. AC Milan, you know, Ruud Gullit, Van Basten. Then the TV right, the Premier League have the TV right, so they have more money. So they give like bigger salary. And I think that's what changed.

Now people are more watching Premier League So no, I think it's a different football. You need to adapt you can see even like English player when they go in Italy Yeah, normally they don't succeed because there you don't play just with your physical ability. You need to be really smart. I don't say they are not smart, but it's really difficult to adapt when you play in Italy.

Italy is a place of thinking. Thinking everyday in Italy.

And promotion, Serie A again. Yes. It's hard. and promotion Serie A again. In France you are left back when Eric Abidal in the best performance. And how are you relation with Eric Abidal? Me and Eric Abidal we are like brother.

We really good friends. And yes, it was a competition between me and him, but also Abidal can play central left. So, it was a competition, but a Champions League, I think 2010 in Wembley. He was like a skeleton, like the eyes were yellow, when I was like, my brother is going to die. Then after one year, he sent me a picture, he said he's going to work in the mountains. Then after in the bike. Then after I saw in the news, he's training.

And he even played the finals. So for me this is a lesson of life. He's a fighter. Abidal is a fighter, I have so much respect for him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you, it's a good relation. Very good relation. We never being jealous or fight We know we both at our best so we have never have problem, but that's why this is tell you about big player That's why me and my team. I always want like also another good left back because he will challenge me So he's not like I can sleep

Oh, I'm the number one because when you just the number one and you have nobody behind you putting pressure, then some game you're like, oh it's okay I can play 80%, 70% because it's not another left back. So no, every team have to, each position, they have to have competition. Because when it's competition, that's when the team improves. Competition is good. That's why this team improves. Like you too, need competition.

No, no.

No, no.

France always good left back in 98, Vincent Candela and Lizarazu. Lizarazu. Two bots very good in 2006 and Lizarazu, you know. Two very good... In 2006, Lizarazu.

No, no, no.

1998, Lizarazu.

Yeah, Lizarazu finished in 2002. After he finished Lizarazu. And after 2006, France was struggling to go to the high level. Why? Because it was a conflict with the new generation and the old generation. So all the winners of World Cup, it's like we're coming and taking their place. So they don't want to leave. So instead of helping the young generation,

they were like, oh, they are bad, you know, they don't listen But actually because he was a lot of problem like a lot of jealousy, you know French people we like to strike we like revolution so inside was Not a good energy then when did the edition come? He bring back this stable energy and said now we are all playing together, we are all playing for our country and that's why after France, you know, started winning.

And France has many, many players, big players, playing with the national team, France national team. But why France is not playing beauty football? What? What do you mean?

Like Brazil you mean?

No, no, like Brazil, like total football, Netherlands or very very attacking. No, I understand because DJ Deschamps is midder and he's a tough midfielder. He's no technique or whatever. He doesn't like beautiful games. He's really similar to Max Allegri. But Didier Deschamps, everything he touches, he wins. As a player, he wins the World Cup, Champions League.

As a manager, he wins. You see my first season with Monaco 2004 we lose against Porto in final but we beat the Real Madrid, the Real Galactico Ronaldo, Figo, Roberto Carlos, Beckham, whatever is similar to Max Allegri, is not about beautiful game, you know if you do nice skill Deschamps will say stop, stop doing this. It's not circus.

Pass the ball. Pass the ball. So, yeah, yeah. Don't expect like beautiful goal, game. Football, him, is about winning also.

Oh, and he bring to back-to-back final World Cup, yeah?

Exactly.

I know this reason. Why France play is very simple.

Effective.

Effective. You reflect the identity of your manager. That's why Manchester is strong. We come, we want to kill you. Because Ferguson is that way. They're sharp, it's not like a beautiful game or whatever.

Allegri is the same.

I want to ask about a night in Moscow, final Champions League, okay? One of the good final I ever seen, you know, I want to ask you about the feeling

when John Terry step up to take the penalty, if that goal, they will win this championship. Yes.

A lot of stress.

A lot of stress. When I say, you remember even Cristiano missed his penalty, was crying.

Yeah.

We say, oh, this is it. But again, because I just lost with Monaco the final, I say, why it happened again? I really, when I signed to Man United, I say, I don't want to, I will say, go to the final championship. I want to Man United I said I don't want to, I will say, go to the final championship, I want to win it. So the story behind John Terry, if you remember Drogba slapped Nemanja Vidic and he got sent off. And actually Drogba was the

last taker of penalty. But because he was sent off, so the last taker was Calou Was normally called Salomon Calou and John Terry as a captain he said, you know, I will take the last penalty As a hero as a hero, but you know when God is the God of plan and this wasn't your day And he slept and if you see touch the net behind because I talk with Michel Platini He was the president of FIFA back in the day and he say Abramovich the president all of them They celebrate they think the goal when John Terry should they think he was in Then after you know, you have to tell to a boy with no no guys

This is not a good no goal, but when he missed his step I say, okay now we win it We was a sign from God. You believe it. Yeah, I believe. I really believe in God. I believe in the universe. I believe in positive energy. When I saw this, I said that's it. We win. It's over. Now you write a book.

Yes. Yes, I love this. It's a... What? What is it about? About what? Good. I love this game. You... How... About what? That's good.

That's it? Thank you.

What is it? About what? No, I write my book. I love this game. It's about my life. And my favorite chapter in my book

is the first chapter because I talk about my childhood, I talk about my trauma, my challenge, you know I talk about when I was kid I used to beg money in front of shop to buy a sandwich so it's not that much a football book of course I talk about my time at United, Juventus, the French national team, but it was more to help kids to send a message out there, if you believe in yourself, you're going to make it.

Don't listen to anybody saying, oh you can't do this, you can't be that, just work hard and make a lot of sacrifice. Because actually I love this game, my brand, doesn't mean I love football or I love basketball or tennis. I love this game means I love my life. I think life is a game. Sometime you win, sometime you lose, but just stay positive.

And be happy. That's why you say, how are you Patrice? I say I'm still alive because I feel blessed and grateful to be happy. That's why you say, how are you Patrice? I say I'm still alive. Because I feel blessed and grateful to be alive. Sometimes we think, you know, life is granted. But I love this game, it's just to remind you things. Like for example, I am here in this podcast

and I say I love this game!

I love this game!

Always love this game.

Very like, I love this game in C.

Yeah.

When you holiday after one season, you holiday with...

What ship?

Ship, ship, ship.

Ship, yes.

Yacht. Yacht, yacht.

Yacht, yacht.

I'm sorry.

Good English, good English.

Good English, good English. You talk, I love this game. You say, I love this game. Yeah, every day.

You very enjoy.

Yes, I enjoy life. In your life. I am passionate about life. I think being alive is a gift. and that's why I don't understand when Some people they always think about the past if you think about the past you're gonna live with regret If you think about the future, you're gonna live with stress and anxiety

Me I live the present right now. I'm here with you I don't think about what I have to do next or whatever. You have to live the moment live the present. Right now I'm here with you. I don't think about what I have to do next or whatever. You have to live the moment, live the present. This is very important. When you chill, child, child, when you chill, When you chill, When you chill, you live in France or another country?

No, no, no, in France but... In Paris? Yeah, yeah, in Paris but when I was one year we moved to Belgium, in Bruxelles. But just for like few months then after I grew up in Paris, in France, a street called Les Ulysses. Actually me, Thierry Henry, Anthony Martial, we from the same street.

As a man, as a player, you are funny man, you are enjoy always. But sometimes when you play football, you like crazy man.

You hard. Is that just acting or what?

No.

Because you funny, I know you're funny.

You see, I have your podcast now. I think I will go.

Yeah.

I'm a clown?

No.

You sure? Yeah.

I am a clown. I love being a clown. I'm joking. But when you play, you are totally different. Yes. That's me. In life, I'm really crazy, really happy really funny. But when I am on the pitch or any job now as a businessman Discipline, I'm not here to be your friend. I'm here to win. So that's what many people like you say Oh But you survive in the beach or interview always like serious, oh now he can be funny, dancing, crazy, saying I love this game.

I always being like this in the dressing room. I'm always be funny. But soon as we go to work, my eyes change. I'm like a warrior, I need to win. Because I can't be funny on the pitch or whatsoever. But many people, they told me the same.

But this is no acting, this is my personality. Because even in training, sometimes we do warm-up, my teammates, you know, they laugh. I say, why you laugh? Focus. Train hard. Like many kids or people would like to be in our place. So we give, we ask you one hour focus. You don't have time to laugh. You have

after plenty of time to laugh. That's me. That's why with my company, with the people work with me, we're gonna have fun or whatever. But when it's a child, is your life very hard or you are from a rich family? No, like I said, I have a big family and when my dad left home it was difficult for my mom. That's why I formed like it was like a poor street. I used to beg money just to buy a sandwich. I did bad things because I needed to survive. You know where I grew up I've got friends and you know, they've been shot

He was also like a gangster, but we I don't like to call it gangster It's just because we're trying to survive. So yes, he was really tough. I I didn't do any Academy Going to Clairefontaine all of that. I from the streets to the star I used to play in the car park, between cars. That's where I learned all my skills, you know, my character, my leadership. Yes, and that's why I have that anger and that passion. You know, when you come from nothing, you

know, you like, you want to win, you want every training, you're training hard. Because I remember my mom, when my dad left she was crying and I said mommy don't worry when I'm gonna play football I'm gonna buy you a house so when I had my first big contract with Monaco the first things I did is to buy a house to my mom. Straight make you... Yes, street. I will never forget. That's why I always say to people, like even in Indonesia, you need to go in the street.

Because football is for the poor people. We made the football and after it's become a business. But it's so many talent. And sometimes, you know, I live in Dubai, in UAE, they have everything. Facility, manager, all of that. But the kids, they don't perform. Why? Because they got everything. And when you come from nothing, you have this anger, this adrenaline.

Passion. Passion. Tough. You have a tough life. For you in the pitch, it's nothing. It's nothing. Because when you're back home home you never know if you're gonna be alive, you don't know if you're gonna have food, it's different. So when you play, for you it's easy. I wanna ask you about when France, if France champions, World Cup champions or Euro champions, people is debatable about it's Africa team.

You know? Africa team. It is no, it is a France team. What's your opinion about it? It's simple. Some people are jealous

When I win because my mom is French, my dad from Senegal, when you win you're a French player

When you lose you're from Senegal. Yeah, so People will never change anything because

France is really, there is a lot of diversity

So it's a lot of nationality. Even they born in France, but because maybe you're black or Arab They will say, okay you win because you know Because it's Africa team win But this is just I think the hate of the people or some people are racist and you know They hate when France win but actually when we play France win but some media yes you're right even many now national

team if you look Indonesia national team or UAE they all do that because they know he work yeah I know he work and I think you know when you represent your country it doesn't matter where you come from. When you put the shirt, you're from Indonesia. When you play for France, whatever, you're from France. But yeah, when you win, people say, ah, it's the Africa team winning, but because it's only black players.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Many, many people talk about naturalization or diversity and it's a different opinion. It's a different opinion but I always say it doesn't matter where you come from even if you're not born in Indonesia or whatever, if you respect the country, if you respect the value, if you're ready to defend your country, you should play. You should play. It doesn't mean like, oh, because I'm Indonesia I have to, I'm the only one I have to play in the national. No, you know, the world need to be more open

because at the end we are all human being, you know, I don't, I don't like I'm black, I'm white, I'm this. No, we are human beings. The blood, your blood is red. My blood is red. Your blood is red.

My blood is black and white.

Black and white?

Because?

Oh, Bianconeri!

No, no, no.

Bianconeri.

How about Turin? You go there one time.

It's a nice place, Turin. It's a very nice place. And Juventus Stadium is very good. Yeah, Juventus Stadium. I love the stadium, it's really beautiful. You don't continue your career as a coach. Why? Because I had my coach license, I have done them four years ago. Many people asked me to come back to football,

even Man United or whatever. I don't because when you're back to football, if you want to win, you have to sacrifice everything again. You have to sacrifice your family life, you know, your kids, your friend. And it's just not the moment. Even if, you know, I did my coach license easy,

I can coach right now, but it's a personal choice. Now as a businessman and entrepreneur I'm doing so much and now I want to give to people, give back to people because I received so much but we never know in five years maybe coming back to football. I'm a happy man. I mean like if I back to football I back the monster. the Patrice you say like He no joke is this because that's the way you know if you want to succeed

It's really easy to to reach the top of the pyramid but to stay at the top That's when you have to sacrifice a lot like my son. He was 10 years old and he said daddy I want to be a football player. I say okay. Let's go for a run. And he said no no, where is the ball? And I said then you don't want to play football. Because they want everything easy, everything fast. But if you do it, you have to sacrifice everything. And I want last question. Before, okay, okay.

Patrice, two of your teams, Manchester United and Juventus, is very struggling. Maybe 5 years, is very struggling. What is your opinion about Manchester United and Juventus. For a comeback to champions. You know Juventus, nine Scudetto and two final champions.

And now it's very very hard, very very struggling.

You know sometimes, I always say the history of your club never dies. You remember Liverpool, they waited 30 years before winning a trophy. I think nowadays the problem is the new generation is not the same passion, is not the same commitment. And I don't criticise them, but they don't realize for which team they're playing. Like for example, when I wear Man United shirt, I carry the history in my back. When I wear Juventus shirt, same. Because I look all those big players, I'm like, I have so much respect for those players they played before me.

So I'm like, I have to give, you know, everything. Man United, I believe in Amorim. Even in the bad moment or whatever because he's so humble and I can see he want to die You know for the club we have Mourinho Mourinho was a very good manager finished second But the problem he went on the media and saying all my players are shit You know, that's that's what the people... More in the typical.

Exactly, they didn't like, but he's honest. Because back in the day, that's what Ferguson will tell us. If we're bad, he will say to Cristiano, you're shit, you score only against small teams, you have to score big games. And so his method, that doesn't work. to play tiki-taka like Dutch football, United is no, United is forward, attack, attack, attack. Juventus, same problem. When Allegri, everyone, oh Allegri is bad, even you,

you know, he need to go, he need to go. Then we bring my new manager, they bring like the new tactic, the new culture and it doesn't match. but I'm not worried because I always say history never die they're gonna back to where they belong but not right now right now I think we don't have enough experience match your player because back in the day like we talk Juventus you have 11 captain in your team. Yeah United you have 11 captain in your team So need more like character personality

Believe Luciano Spalletti with Juventus. Yeah right now. No, I I think this is a good I Was happy because Spalletti also some people don't like it, but you know, he's a winner He's a winner and he's gonna bring again discipline, structure so I wish him good luck

Now we are going to the ultimate team you choose 11 best players in your career

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Patrick, you built 11-11 formation,

based on the Greek players of all time you play with?

I play with, no against. The greatest player of all time.

Your version?

Yes.

What are you talking about?

Both.

Whatever you want.

Okay, what's the formation? 4-3-3, 4-4-2 or?

So goalkeeper, yeah, 4-3-3 I would say.

4-3-3, okay. Goalkeeper.

It's between Edwin van der Sar and Buffon.

Buffon. Buffon.

Buffon.

Gigi Buffon.

Nah, right back.

Right back is between Cafu and Dani Alves. But I play with Dani Alves. Sorry Cafu, I love you. But Dani Alves.

Dani Alves.

Ok, Dani Alves.

Left back. You can put your name there.

No, no. Left back, I like Roberto Carlos. And he gives the best compliments. I remember when I was still young and he was like, oh, after me, the best left back was Petrus Everard. But for me, Roberto Carlos.

Roberto Carlos.

But in Eric Abidal starting X 11, left back is better.

Oh yeah? No!

Yeah.

He said it.

I see it in a podcast. Oh, thank you Eric. Center back. Right center back.

No, we need to show us.

No, no, you shut up Mario Delano.

University.

I know they want.

Hey, United way, go!

Go, go, go, go, security, security. No, I, security. I like the problem we have Rio Ferdinand, Chiellini also was good, he was a warrior but... Jose Mourinho, Shady. No, no, good, no, no, right, no, I will go Sergio Ramos.

Sergio Ramos. Sergio Ramos. Sergio Ramos.

Sergio Ramos, ok.

Left, centre-back?

Maldini, Paolo Maldini.

Central midfield.

Many.

Wow, it's so many.

I play with so many good players. Yeah, yeah. But I have to put Scholes, 100%. Scholes, Paul Scholes.

Scholes, Paul, Papi, Lovoy.

Defensive midfield.

You play with many good defensive midfielders.

No, that's the problem. Between, you know, I have Vieira, Makelele, Kante... Roy Keane. Roy Keane. I have to put a French player because they're defensively so good on midfield.

N'Golo Kante.

You know what? I will go for N'Golo Kante. Because people never mention him and I play with him, what a player, N'Golo Kante. So humble.

Okay.

Attacking midfield.

From Bayankara FC, Reinhardt. No, this is Zidane.

Zidane, Zidane, Zidane. Zizou.

Zidane, Zidane.

Right flank, right winger!

Cristiano Ronaldo

Cristiano Ronaldo

Wait, is there Giggsie or?

Messi, it's difficult, there's no space for... It will be Giggsie, but no, it's Messi and striker Striker Ronaldo el fenomeno.

No, Carlitos?

If you tell me, friends, or the player I play, you tell me I have to bring my best eleven. Yes. Ernaldo.

One super sub.

I don't like, he's disrespecting my brother, but Thierry Henry.

Thierry Henry shouldn't be here.

Thierry Henry.

World Cup winner.

Thierry.

Manager or coach? Come on, easy. Ferguson.

Sir Alex Ferguson.

Yes! No Allegri. My team look crazy.

Who's captain in this team?

No Allegri. My team look crazy. Who's captain in this team? No Allegri.

The captain, Paolo Maldini.

Paolo Maldini, of course. Okay, what? Winner World Cup, this team. Why?

Easy.

Easy.

Nobody can beat this team. You can bring any team, there's no chance.

Like Juventus vs Borussia Dortmund?

Easy. Easy.

It's well balanced. Who will first red card in this team? Red card? Sergio Ramos.

Okay, good team? Good team. We go to Sobat Sporti bertanya. There are two caller with Sobat Sporti. We have two caller. The first caller. The first caller.

Okay, hello. Hello. crazy announce the first caller

ok hello

hello

with who?

how are you?

how are you?

how are you?

who are you?

how are you?

I'm Ari from Bogor.

Bogor.

Password Hari?

Password in English. And you add I love this game. Spot 77, the best podcast in the world.

Okay.

I love this game?

I love this game.

Okay, good.

Okay, go ahead.

Go ahead, Hari.

Your question. Hello, go ahead. Your question.

Hello, Patrick.

Hello.

How are you?

I have one question for you.

How is your relationship with Khabib Nurmagomedov?

Okay.

Who is that? UFC player. Ah, Khabib. Khabib. Sorry. I think he said Khabib Magdo. I didn't. No Khabib. Your English is so bad bro. I heard he won the grand prix. You're making me confused Any more questions?

Or just that?

No, I can't stand it

Okay

Only one discussion Okay, thank you Harry Ramzi is back Wait, we go to Ramzi Hello

Wait

Hello Okay Hello.

Okay.

Hello.

Password, Ramzi.

What?

Password.

Sportcast.

7-7.

The best podcast in the world and afterlife. I love this guy.

Wow.

Ramzi.

Ramzi. Ramzi.

The best. the best.

Wow.

Okay. Your question.

Hi, Patrick.

Hi, Ramsey.

Yo.

Yo.

Yo.

Please, man.

Time is money. For Manchester United,

which player got the worst hair dry treatment from Sir Alex?

And how is it?

Oh yeah.

The worst, the worst.

I can say.

That's it Ramsey?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you Ramsey.

Okay.

Okay.

First question is, how about your relationship with Khabib?

Yeah, no, my relationship with Khabib is really good. He's my brother But I feel sometimes he want to kill me Even if he love me every time send your location Patrick send your location But no we when I go back I have to train a little bit with him But I don't know because I know he love me, when he look at me he want to kill me so I don't know you call it is love and hate but no I is wow is a respectful Muslim really humble really nice guy but dangerous

dangerous dangerous dangerous dangerous you can't see. One time you came slept to Habib? No chance no chance I will even now I don't know see, we did a live streaming because we're gonna play a football game together. And he's like, oh I'm gonna kill you, this. I said, but Habib, this is not MMA, this is not fighting. You play with your feet.

But he said he's gonna bring like a lot of people from Dagestan like strong to make sure he destroy my team. So someone need to say Khabib, calm down. You know, I'm your brother, I love you, but crazy guy.

Crazy guy.

Crazy guy, ok.

Full energy.

Oh, yeah, strong, strong.

Yeah, ok.

And...

Second question, the air dryers.

The worst. Yeah, the worst was giving the most Ferguson the air dryer was a captain Gary Neville He used to kill him every game

Every game?

Every game Oh, sometime I don't even know why I put you captain We lose so many goal because of you Yeah, he was the favorite Ferguson give air dryer Gary Neville

Okay

Gary, yeah?

Gary Neville

Gary Neville

Even he don't give air dryer Gary Neve. Ok, Gary, Gary Neve. Even he don't mistake?

Oof, is when you make a mistake, the boss, you know, I tell that story, one game, I play very good game. And I pass, one pass back to Edwin van der Sar, the goalkeeper. And when I come half time, everyone, ooo Patrice, you're amazing, you play good games, so, you know, I was confident, happy. Then the boss, he look at me, he say, Patrice, are you OK?

I say, yes. He say, are you tired? I say, no, I'm playing like the best football. He say, why you pass the ball back to Edwin van der Sar?" I said, because I didn't have one, I didn't have option forward. This is one of the worst game you playing since I signed you for United. He give me the crazy hair dryer. I said, this guy is crazy, you know, even Ryan Giggs was

like Patrice, no, don't worry, I was so angry. But I never answer back to the boss in front of the teammates. Then next day I went to his office and he opened the door. Hello, son! How are you? I said, oh, I am, boss. What happened yesterday? Oh, Patrice, you were the best player on the pitch,

but Cristiano Ronaldo was doing some skills, we were missing some chances. You know when the fans, they come to watch United, when you score one goal you have to score two, three, four, five. Then I say, but boss, next time, you know, make a sign, because this was a close one, we were nearly to fight. And he say, I can swear here? Can I swear? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is not me saying, so I apologize to everyone.

He said, get out of my office, fucking French. So, so after that, I closed the door. Then I realized this is managing because he, he killed the, he gave the hairdryer to the best player to send a message to the other player because they were like wow If he's killing Patrice, what about us? So we play even much better the second half and we score another two goal. We didn't concede goal So this was to send a message the best player

To send a message because you know I will take it like an injustice and what he will create fire and I will even push myself Second half I won't say like ooh first half I'm amazing. No, so this is Alex Ferguson He know to manage people. No player to protest to manager. No when do you protest you is finished Bye-bye. Bye-bye you go finish Bye bye, bye bye, you go home, finish. He's not brave.

Yeah, like Alex Choi. Yeah, yeah. One question. What's your opinion about Paul Pogba? His problems, his injuries. his injury and now with Monaco and he tried to build a scene with Monaco but injury again. I spoke with Pogba yesterday. Pogba is my little brother. Yeah, it's a difficult time, even private life. He had problems with his brother.

Now he's getting injured a lot. He got banned. So, yeah, it's a tough moment. But like I said, I hope he never gives up. Work hard. Now he signed for Monaco.

I wish him well. But yeah, he had a difficult life, even if he wins the World Cup and plays Juventus, plays Manchester. He always has not that balance. So Pogba, all people love him, all people hate him. He's nothing, you know, in the middle.

And yeah, when I see things happen like that, I'm sad, but I'm confident, I'm confident he will be back. He will take time, but let's pray for him to get better soon.

Yeah, okay.

We hope too.

Paul Pogba.

Okay.

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Okay, Uncle Pat, I hope you keep healthy. Thank you.

Keep strong.

Keep healthy, yeah.

They laugh, it's good. They're jealous. They didn't understand English, you know. They didn't understand. you know you don't understand you go to uh studying

studying yes and uh keep strong stronger man funny yeah yeah why are you laughing why you laugh laugh laugh yeah i know you know you know you said lag lag now Love, love, love. I know you. You said love. Very... Keep humble.

Keep humble.

Stay humble.

Thank you for coming here. Semangat education. What? Semangat?

Semangat.

What is education? Education for people. Oh, semangat.

Keep education.

Stay education. Keep education the child.

Yes, that's right.

Make inspiration for them.

Make inspiration for all of people in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, you understand! Okay, we love you and enjoy your time in Indonesia. Enjoy Manchester United Mets, okay? And Juventus Mets. I'm not sure I will enjoy. I maybe gonna have a heart attack.

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Thank you very much, Zews.

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No, it's a British.

They don't know nothing.

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