Por PROTEGER a su MAMÁ y a su hermano de su PADRASTRO MALTRATADOR, puede enfrentar 33 años de CÁRCEL

There are some tragedies that seem to be announced, and this was fulfilled on January 5, 2022, past one in the morning. And because of this tragedy, Jovan Jaya, who at that time was 19 years old and today is 23, could spend 33 years in prison. a Colombia, por John Albert Forero, que en esa época tenía 46 años de edad. Y bueno, estoy con ellos. Han venido desde el llano para hablar conmigo.

Gracias por estar con nosotros aquí en Más Allá del Silencio. Gracias por confiar su historia a nuestro podcast. ¿Qué pasó ese 5 de enero del 2022?

Cinco de enero, Rafa. Lo voy a poner un poquito en contexto de esta historia. Yo conozco al señor John Albert in 2013 through his sister. I worked at a local tamales shop. That's how I met him. He started to ask me out, over and over again,

until the time came for me to leave and go out with him. We started a romantic relationship, like everything at the beginning. We moved in in 2013. He was always the one who was hiding, because he had a daughter who was complicated. She didn't accept that the father had a relationship with anyone else, that it wasn't the mother. I had a relationship with anyone else. That he wasn't my mother.

I'm going to live with him. We started a home. Everything was going well at first. I have to retire from work because my mother is hospitalized. I have to take care of her. She died in October 2013.

I think that because of that loss, I clung to him. Ella fallece en octubre del 2013. Pues yo pienso que por esa perdida como que me aferré a él. Él estuvo pues ahí conmigo, pues me brindó su apoyo. Ya convivíamos.

¿Con quiénes?

Yo en ese momento tenía dos hijos. Joan en ese momento tenía 10 años and Duván, who is 5. In January 2014, I found out that I was expecting a baby. I was six weeks pregnant. He told me that I couldn't have it because it would be a very hard blow for the ex-wife and the daughter. He took me to Olalla and they did an ultrasound.

They confirmed that I had six weeks of gestation. He didn't like it. When we left the office, he stopped me at a drugstore where he told me I had to buy some pills called Tomas. They were two tablets and two Tomas. I told him not to lose the money because I wasn't going to take them. se llama que eran dos aplicadas y dos tomadas yo le dije que no perdiera el dinero porque la verdad yo no me iba a tomar eso, era mi hijo, él se pone furioso y me dice que entonces

que yo elija entre el bebé y él, yo pues vivía en la casa de mi mamá yo le dije pues que se fuera, que yo escogía a mi bebé, él tenía una forma de ser muy rara, yo no He had a very strange way of being. I don't know what he would think about the course of his life at home. When we got home, I told my brothers to go celebrate. When I got home, my brother told me that if it was true that she was pregnant, that because I had not been very happy, after having told me that I could not have this baby. Unfortunately, I lost my baby.

I lost my baby, but because of natural causes, because of a blood clot I had, I was always very, very drunk. I was aggressive, womanly, I had, for that matter, women. Besides, I had... I had a few women. Apart from that... I got pregnant again.

And I realized... At the end of 2014... I got pregnant with Kayla. When I had 5 months of gestation of my baby... I saw that he was in love with the woman he had. I told him that I didn't want to live with him anymore because I felt that he was attached to that woman and I didn't want to be there. He told me, please, don't let him, don't take his son away from him.

I told him that I would never take his son away from him because ultimately, all his life he will be his son, but I don't want to continue as his wife. He left. He kept calling me, Pao, please, we don't have the home, think about the baby. and me dice que vayamos a la finca de los papás en San Martín. Ustedes vivían en Soacha. Nosotros vivíamos en Soacha, en los Ducales. Cerca de Bogotá.

Sí, señor. Bueno, pues uno también piensa, otra vez un bebé sin papá. Bueno, me fui con él para San Martín. Cuando llegamos a San Martín, nos ofrecen un lote y lo compramos. We bought it. He told me to please look after our home for the baby that is coming. He said he would change. Well, you think that people can change.

We went back to Bogotá. We had already bought the lot. We started sending money for his father to start building the house. My baby was born, and he was still with his drink, and his drink every 8 days. He was very rude, very rude. He was very aggressive. Until that moment, he hadn't f**ked me.

You were telling me that when you met him,

he had just gotten out of jail. Yes, sir.

He told me that he couldn't work because he had just gotten out of jail. What had he done? I don't know,

because he was telling me that he had f**ked him. cartoon sure tamente no sé porque la mime si a que era porque la via el compañero sentimental de las mujer y pues el no aceptaba que yo era con seguir otra persona pero pues otras personas decían que era por entonces a cierto modo no sé porque estaría no sé porque estuvo pues y I don't know why he was in jail. And you were telling me that he was very violent.

Yes.

But up until now, he hasn't...

He hasn't, but when he would jump, he was the worst woman in the world. He treated me very badly. On November 28, 2016, he told me to go for a walk to San Martin. We already had the house there and we returned to Bogota. We stayed living in San Martin. I saw it as a new beginning, believing that he could leave that violence and alcoholism that he had.

It was hard, what can I say? I decided in 2017, more or less, that I would leave my two older sons to my brother, I left them in San Martín, and I left with the little boy.

And you came to Bogotá.

I came to Bogotá, I had already spoken with the one who had been my boss before, he had told me he was going to give me a job. When he comes and finds me, he tells me I have to go back to him because if I'm not his, I'm not anyone's. And that I can't make decisions on my own and that I have to go back to him. I told him I didn't want to, that I didn't want to live with him anymore. And that was the first time I told him.

I remember very well that I had my baby in my arms, Keilani, and I think he was about three years old. He says, but I'm sorry, if you're not mine, you're not anyone's. And he comes back to me. I told him, I'm not coming back to you. He grabs me and pushes me. I have my baby on my back. We're very close to a wall.

He throws me against the wall. And he comes back, gives me another punch, and he hits me. I was like, what the hell? I went to the floor and told him, it's your son. Think that it's your son, react. I remember my baby crying, I was like, dad, no more, dad, no more.

He grabs me by the ass, he throws me on a bed. I, as I could, I rolled up his shirt and I hugged him. I was like, how can I?

I was like, how can I? me I can't let go of him. I grab my baby. We see each other on the second floor. I run out of the house. He finds me in the corner and grabs my baby. He says, you can't go alone, big girl. And he goes with me. He grabs me and pulls me. He puts me in the back of the car.

Then he calls his mom and tells her to come pick her up. His mom was in Soacha, where his sister lived. Liliana tells me, why don't I get out of the car? So I showed him, he had all this information about what he was taking from me. Liliana tells him, Pancho, why are you doing this to her? Don't do that.

The mom also told him why she was doing that. We left. In the bus I picked up my daughter. They had lunch at a restaurant. I didn't get out of the car because I was very angry and because I was ashamed that they would tell me how I was.

From there we took the road to San Martín. He slept in a room, I slept in another with my baby. It was very hard to be with a person who you don't want to be with.

He was a person... He was such a weird actor, because today he could treat me like the worst person in the world. And tomorrow he would talk to me as if nothing had happened. I remember a lot that his daughter stayed at home. At 8 days they said they were going for a walk in a river. One for not having fights. We started to fix it. I don't know what I would tell his daughter.

He turned away. Eight days had passed since the first time.

He turned and grabbed me and hit me in the face. I had spent 8 days of the first one until he had...

He came back and grabbed me and beat me up and left me with a black face.

I remember a lot that at that time, John, my son, would be like 14 or 15 years old. And he tells him not to hit me. And he gets upset and tells him not to say anything because he'll get a beating. I'm cosas en la mano, yo la tiro en la cara, le digo a mi hija, hágame lo que quiera, pero con mis hijos no. Bueno, ellos llegan, se van para la piscina, al fin no fueron al río, por eso después, al rato ya había un compadre de él, y él entra y me dice que así era que se trataban mujeres y que eso me lo merecía. ¿Eso dijo el compadre? El compadre. Yo le dije, se sale de mi habitación, no lo quiero acá.

Yo me estuve todo el día encerrada en mi casa. Sin embargo, pensando por la noche cuando ya llegan, aparte de que era yo la que tenía que pedir disculpas porque yo era la mala. Así transcurrió, él siguió siendo un alcohólico, nunca quiso cambiar, antes se volvió más agresivo. El 25 de octubre del año 2018, recuerdo muy bien, estábamos en la casa, estaba la hija de él.

La verdad, John I saw everything around, I didn't want her to get bitten by mosquitoes. I remember her a lot, she bothered me all day, I taught her to use the washing machine, I explained it to her, but she wanted me to wash her clothes. The last one called me a genius because I wasn't even the woman of that lady.

I was the maid of everyone who came to my house. I remember she told me where the soap was. I said, I don't know, look for it. I found it behind the washing machine. busquenlo por allá le encontró detrás de la lavadora y ella se subió cuando bajo yo en alber super envenenado usted porque me humilla mi hija si yo le mantengo a los hijos suyos

yo le dije yo que le dije a su hija me dijo mi hija ya no puede venir a mi casa porque se me la va a venir a humillar yo no le dije nada que buscar el jabón por eso y usted se lo escondió yo no le escondí nada si se cayó yo que culpa My daughter couldn't go to my house because I was going to humiliate her. I didn't tell her anything. I told her to look for soap and she hid it. I didn't hide anything. If it fell, what did I do? I told her, don't you imagine that I told her to go eat my... She told me, well, imagine that you, big... She grabbed my neck and put up against the wall.

When I got down from the wall, he took me out of the bathroom door to the masonry of my house. I felt out of breath. I said, I'm going to die.

I remember that I put my hand on the masonry, I found a stapler, I hit him in the forehead a little and I opened his eyes. When I saw that he had his eyes covered, I said, my God, this man realizes that I opened his eyes. He hit me, he hit me on the floor, he told me, if you dare to hit me, I will kill you. He hit me on the face, I hit him on the face, I hit going to go pay this idiot. As soon as I could, I stopped. I called the police. The police arrived and told me that we had to take both of them.

Because he was also a police officer. He was a police officer. He was a police officer. He was a police officer. I went to the police station and they told me that I had to take both of them with me because he was also pregnant. I told the police that how could I take them if I had a baby?

And he said no because the the aggressions were from side to side. My niece arrived. She worked at the San Martín hospital. And she said, No more Paola. How many times are you going to wait for this man to take her?

We're going to the hospital. With all the fear that I always had of Jonathan, I went with them to the hospital. In the hospital, the police officer received me at that time. He said to me, woman, you deserve a mirror. Do you think you deserve this life? I said, neither I nor anyone deserves this life. I didn't know anyone, not even myself.

I took the medical examinations.

The commissioner told me that night, that he would wait for me at 7 in the morning, with a photocopy of the gentleman's cedula, and a photocopy of his cedula, and the child's birth certificate. I said, yes sir. That night I didn't stay at home because I was scared. I stayed with my children at my brother's and my niece's house.

I was scared, very scared. I was very scared. However, the next day I told my brother to come with me. I went to the documentation and my daughter said to me, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to sue your father because I don't live her anymore. document uncio le pusi una media protección nosotros tuvimos situación en la

comisaría el fue super agresivo con el comisario y el comisario le dijo que si era aceptaba lo que yo había dicho pues si dijo eso que sea lo que es yo no tengo por qué decirle nada porque los asuntos de mi caso son de mi caso y lo soluciono yo el comisario me pregunta a mí usted desea seguir con la media protección I was in my house, where my home was, and I solved it. The police officer asked me, Do you want to continue with the protection measure?

I looked at him with all the fear I had, and I said, Yes, I'm not going to take it away from you. He looked at me really badly. The police officer said, Are you going to continue living with him? I looked at him and I said,

Yes, I'm going to solve my home. But the fear I had was that situation gave me the paternity of my son completely. When I saw him aggressive, I remember that when we left the situation, he told me that he was happy and that he would remove that claim. I said, no, unless there is a circumstance that I demand it, since he won't let me go. I was afraid of that protection. There was a time when I didn't like it. I was still being mistreated, humiliated for the food,

for the fact that he was supporting my children. But he didn't let me work because he was a crazy, obsessive, jealous man. I couldn't leave the house without him. Because if I left, he he was with my children. He said that my children were my mothers, and that my children were vulgarly my brothers.

Did he say that?

He said that to them. And they, out of respect, didn't even tell me the day he told me. They were downstairs, I was upstairs. And they heard me say, me lo dijo a mí. Ellos estaban abajo y yo estaba arriba. Ellos escuchaban y dijeron, mi hijo, mi hijo, es que él nos dice eso cada rato, que nosotros nos la comemos. Yo

leía a mi hijo, que él porque nunca me había dicho y me decía, por no ver más peleas. Pasa el tiempo, él se vuelve más borracho, ya todos los días hay un pretexto para tomar, He would get drunk. As time went by, he would get drunk. Every day, there was a pretext to drink, to get to a normal treatment. Even though, what I'm telling you, he wouldn't let me go out or to the door. Because he was still counting on me to get the mousse. He would get drunk, and he would tell me,

Perfect, where did you hide the mousse? I was tired, he would say, it's under the bed. the car messi up a don't get in a scoop do almost I said it's idea of a lack of a look at a wall or to a commission our person you know I love me must be a no mas amoroso como era el en público fuera de tu casa? Era el hombre perfecto. Él era la persona que si una persona tenía hambre, él le daba de comer.

Que si una persona necesitaba, él le daba. Incluso cuando hubo la época del COVID, él y unos amigos reunían dineros y eso, y hacían comida. Se llevaban a la gente bajo recursos de San Martín para que no pasara necesidad. They would gather money and that, and they would cook food and take it to the people under San Martin's resources. So that there wouldn't be a need. He loved people a lot. And at some point I told him, if you're like this with people, why can't you be like this with us? I'm not a bad person.

In 2021, I don't know what happened to that man. But he became more aggressive, more rude, more crazy.

Very crazy.

It was more recurrent that he would treat my children badly, that he would told them that... I was told all the time that I didn't want my children as my children, but as men.

That they...

They are my children and I would never see them as men. They... I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad. I was so sad to see how my children treated me.

Even though Keiran was their son. They treated him so badly. In 2021, since May or June, it was worse. He went crazy, aggressive. He fought for everything.

He drank for everything. It was a year that... I saw how he had gotten worse. I told him that if was taking some substance. He hit me. He said,

You're crazy. I don't take anything. You just make me do what I do. He was turning 12 on October 12th. I remember that he told me that he couldn't even wish him a happy birthday. And now, normal, I didn't want him anymore. I remember that on October 12, a friend of his arrived at 4.30pm, and he asked me if I was going to do anything to him.

I knew that I was going to be a burden to him, October I told him, I'm not going to do anything to that boy because we don't celebrate birthdays, we don't do anything. Because that's what he told me, he told me, I don't need anything. So it happened that I didn't wish him a happy birthday. Other friends arrived at 5 or 6 in the afternoon, they brought him a cake, they broke it, they celebrated his birthday. I didn't even take a picture. The truth is that I told everyone, I told them, tell Leonardo to let me go. I don't want to live this story anymore.

I remember that boy said to him, What's wrong with you? Because they called him a wolf. Why do you do that? We thought it was a perfect place. He just looked at me.

I told him, I don't want to go. I never want to go. I don't want to go. That same day, it was October, like at 11 at night, when they were already in the United States. He asked me,

Can I ask you a question, Pao? I said, what? He said, do you love me? I answered, I can answer you with all sincerity, but don't ask me. me I mean, it was a lot of years of bad life, of mistreatment towards my children, beatings towards me. That night he turned around and left. But I think that was like the bomb to make him worse.

He was more drunk, more aggressive. Every day he would come home drunk and say that I had a boyfriend because he said he didn't love him. I would tell him, where are you going to have a boyfriend? You're not letting me leave the house. He would have bad habits. He would come home upset. He would beat the kid up for everything.

He beat up?

Caelan.

How old was he? Caelan, at that Kaylan was 6 years old. And she constantly f***** him? Constantly. The neighbors even told me why she f***** that boy. But I was so scared of that man.

I allowed so many things. Even at the age of my baby, he remembers everything. He arrives I was already at the age of my baby, I remember all that. On December 23rd, my son from work, Johan, arrived. He told me that if I accompanied him to buy clothes on December 24th, I wouldn't see anything wrong with that.

I went with him to the center to buy clothes. We got to a place where they sold clothes. We went to look for clothes for my son. The lady who was taking care of my son came out and said, China, what did you do to the wolf? The wolf was furious and wanted to kill you.

I laughed. I told her, you're stupid. She said, is that serious? John Albert came and killed her. I was so scared. I started shaking and he called me. I answered and said,

I'll give you five minutes until he's in the house. I started shaking. I think I got pale. My son said, I was shaking. I think I got pale. My son tells me, my daughter is terrified, she's afraid of you and Jonas.

I told him, let's go home quickly. I got home and I went downstairs to the second floor and I was with him. From downstairs he stayed in the second floor, like in the second floor he stayed with Jonas. He was looking at my son. My son was looking at him and he said, he's looking at me very badly.

He said, anything, any rudeness. I told him, do whatever you want with me. Treat me however you want, but not with my children. Outside was my other son, Duván, with a little friend who is another boy. I remember that he was son, Duván, was outside with a friend, another boy. I remember that he told that other boy,

and he said, and you are a big Chinese. That boy was like, but I'm not doing anything to a boy. That's how it was in December. He fought, he fought well. And so I had to go out with him, forced everywhere. The family was perfect. And so I had to go out with him, forced, everywhere. The perfect family.

That unforgettable January 4th. His daughter is one year younger than mine. What I tell him, his daughter and his son, his daughter and his son, were untouchable. I mean, I couldn to tell them anything. Not a good thing or a bad thing.

Because for him, it was a bomb. On January 4, the two kids, Jack's son starts hitting Kaelan. My son. Kaelan, how did he know that if he answered,

his dad would hit him? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. the child, he told everyone and no one paid attention to him until he reacted. When Keina told him, I was so angry, I told him, it's so unfair because he's going to hit children and how long has he been telling him that they are hitting him and no one does anything, he already told his mom and dad, and no nobody does anything. I already told your dad's mom and nobody does anything.

But everything that Caleb does, he does touch and hit. I walk out of the room and I tell John Albert why are they going to hit the boy if nobody did anything when he was staying, they were hitting him.

You told him that?

Yes sir. John Albert comes back and says, stay seated. to a Chinese guy who was just as rude as he is. He was a... I use the worst terms to express myself to my son.

To you? What did he say?

I remember that she came down to my room and started insulting me. That I was a... rude... that I had a lot of rude words. And I kept treating her badly.

And the only thing I said to her was that I wasn't going to argue with her, or argue with her, because I didn't argue with niggers. And since she was a nigger, I wasn't going to get down on her.

That's what I said to her.

And then?

And then the word then, the word was... better said... She went upstairs to the second floor and started packing her bags. I saw that John Albert looked at me with hatred, as he knew

how to do it.

I went upstairs and told her, at least wait until the nurse comes. I was trying to avoid a fight because I already knew that for him, she was untouchable. And when I saw her, I said, Oh my God, this woman is leaving. This man is leaving me.

I told her to wait for lunch. She said no, she's leaving. She doesn't want anything. I told him to wait for lunch. He said no, he's leaving. He doesn't want anything. I told him, you know how his dad said, no, I don't want anything. I'm leaving. I don't want any problems with your kids. I go down and sit down. And he tells me, he's happy, but I have to keep his things if you can't take mine." I said, but I didn't say anything.

And it's unfair that every time I come, I get complaints from the other one, and he doesn't get any complaints, nor does he say anything. I said, now if the other one says that his daughter is a whore, it's because you say it. And he said, so it's because I say him, you have to repeat it. They go down the stairs and start to pick up the bags. And they leave, John Albert goes with them. He arrives, like 5 minutes to 1 in the morning.

And with the motorcycle, I go down those stairs. One of my children was going to open the door. I told them to go to the room. I opened the door for him to keep the motorcycle. In that moment I was fat and the space left was very small. There was no space left for me to pass. no no que okay space para pasar Diego puzzle listen care look okay nice a kid panaca yo dije pues que no hay espacio yo de gay ojo y su video me with me

con ganas de tell you our deal embargo yo me estaba costado I was sleeping, and I took my cell phone and said, Why are you texting me where I am if you know where I am? You don't care where I am. I said, because I didn't know where I was, that's why I asked. He said, I'm so upset el cuerpo de mi hija, que cada vez que viene mi hija, me la humillen, y mi hija se ponga a pedir por los hijos de sus hijos, si es

que yo le mantengo sus hijos. Le doy de tragar, ellos viven bien, y porque usted no puede hacer lo mismo con mi hija. Y yo cuando me metido con su hija, yo nunca a su hija le I have never said a rude word to your daughter, like you do to me. I have never been rude to that girl. Now, that son of a bitch told me, why does your son have to tell my daughter that she is a liar? I said, because you say so.

My son of a bitch, it's me. So, he tells me that I treat my daughter badly, and I take my cell phone to call her, Entonces, él me dice que sí, que yo le trato mal a la hija, y yo cojo mi celular a marcarle a ella, para preguntarle en qué momento yo fui grosera con ella. Él me quita el celular y me lo puso en la frente. Mi celular cae debajo de la cama.

Él me coge los brazos y me pisa contra la pared. He grabbed my arms and pushed me against the wall. I said, no, what else? He told me, don't mess with my daughter, because she has to go because of the children here, the ones who have kids with them.

And today I'm going to put one of his kids to bed.

So, he loves you. Yes, sir.

I tell him, he loves me. His problem is with me, he loves me. But when I go to bed with him, I see that he keeps hitting me, I crouch down and take my my phone to call the police. When I was on the floor, he grabbed me and hit me a lot on the stomach or on the back.

I remember that I knelt down and said to him, I was 14 years old. I looked at the door and my son was there. I told him, Mom, I told him, I'm going to stop. I'm going to see if I can get him to lie down.

I took the rod off my son.

I had climbed up with a rod to defend you.

But I took the rod off my son. With John Albert we started in the forage, we went out of the room, to the bathroom. I put the tip of the rod on my chest. He was behind me, he was taking the rod off. I was holding the rod with fear. I said, look, my children are not coming. He said, no, I'm going to take one of your children so you can feel what I felt when

your son told my daughter that he was my sister. I told him, those are words. Those are words that he gave her. He said, he loves me. They are my children. They are my children. Look at me. I'm the problem. I tried to tell them. He said no, no, no. I told Duane to call the police. He said, Mom, I can't find the number. After a few minutes, Giovanni comes up and says, What's up? Let's talk.

And his answer is, I have nothing to talk to you about.

You know what? After a few minutes of hearing the allegations, to And from there I told him to talk to me. I knew that the problem of that day was my fault for what I had told my daughter. He answered me very rudely, with very vulgar words, that he has nothing to talk to me about. And I remember that he let himself come over me.

What was his face like? y recuerdo que él se deja venir sobre mí. ¿Cómo era la cara de él?

Él tenía una cara muy enojada, tenía una cara, se le miraban los ojos rojos, él se le miraban el... todo era muy, muy feo, el rostro de él, verlo en ese momento, el oído que se le veía por encima, el enojo. his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his face, his momento most it was a laguna no recuerdo que paso ya cuando por decirlo así volvió a caer en sí lo veo a él tirado en el suelo a mi mamá y a mis hermanos ahí llorando yo lo primero que hago es después de

verlo en el piso es pedirle perdón a mi mamá y a mis After I saw him on the floor, I asked for forgiveness from my mom and my brothers for what I had done.

But you didn't remember what you had done.

No, I didn't remember. I just saw him looking at him on the floor. And with my hands...

Like you let yourself be carried away by anger?

Yes, it was a moment like... I followed him. Because of the feeling, because of what was happening, because of what we had been seeing for so many years. I followed him at that moment.

What happened? Where was he?

At that moment, when he was told to speak closer and he pushed me. I didn't see him pushing me forward. I kept holding the yellow. I said, God, if I let go of this yellow, he'll kill me or my children.

He'll kill them.

When I saw John above me, I crossed my hands, but I never saw a gun. por encima de mí, pasa la mano, pero yo en ningún momento vi, o sea, un arma, o sea, como en el momento de eso, yo no le vi un arma. Él dice, pues, me apuntó. Pues yo me volteé y le toqué y le sentí la herida. Yo me di a John y le I said, what did he do?

He said, sorry, the knife fell to one side, he fell on his back. I tried to hold him, but he fell upside down. I saw the bruise on his back, so we turned to cover his wound. I ran to get help. There was a party at the house next door. I remember I said to the boys, please help me, I need an ambulance,

I need a patrol, I need to take Jonal to the hospital. One of the boys goes and tells me, he's already dead. I said, no, he's not dead, he's still breathing. His family had arrived. They went and looked at him.

I remember his sister telling me, what happened here? I told her, it's what happened. She tells me, he's my brother and I love him. But if it had been just a scratch, he would have killed them all. My son, that five money,

they make him the charge of charges.

They accused him of what?

Of being a recorded prostitute. of charges. What were they accused of? Of aggravated homicide.

They also

read the background that John Albert had. When they read the background, one was amazed and I didn't know anything about him

because he had a lot of background. What? Well, what I can remember was that he had a lot of background. What? Well, that's what I can remember. He had a lawsuit for ex-wife. And I told others, but at the time I don't remember. I remember when they said that.

A boy from the city told me, because of the expression on his face, you don't even know who he lived with, right? I shook my head I felt this shame. Seeing my son arrested, they gave him a day in prison because the prosecutor said he did not see a risk in my son for society. They tell me to give him a address where they can take him. I gave it to them.

But I begged the police to keep him there for 15 days.

To keep him in jail?

Why?

Because a lot of people from Bogotá started coming, and I know that they were hurt by his death, and they weren't going to think about it. So, I told the police to keep him there, with all the pain of seeing him there, locked up, with the people he was with, in such a small place, where they slept on top of each other.

To see that hurts a lot. I remember a lot that when my son was in the station for six days, a boy called me and told me his name was James. I don't know who he was. He told me, un muchacho que me dijo que se llamaba James no sé quién será me dijo que fue me dijo mujer habla con James venga y hable con los domos para que no le entrar en agua su hijo porque la orden es

yo le dije y quien dio esa orden me dijo la hija

la hija de él

y La hija de él. Sí. Eh...

Tras correr los 15 días, llevo a mi hijo al lugar donde iba a pasar la casa por cárcel. Obviamente, pues, yo le seguía hablando a la familia de él, porque yo decía, Dios mío, a mí me toca seguir acá hablándole a ellos por la protección de mi hijo. I kept talking to his family because I said, my God, I have to keep talking to them for the protection of my son.

They thought he was in jail.

That he was in jail.

And you took them to another place.

Yes, I didn't tell anyone that my son was being held in jail. I told everyone that I had sent him to jail. When he was given the freedom for termination, I brought him home. But I saw him very down in the dumps, and a psychologist went to see him.

She told me that if I had known that my son had three attempts of suicide, that he had to live alone there, where I never found out. When I saw the threats from one side or the other, I wanted to get my son out of San Martin. He lived two years away from us.

Why did you stay in San Martin, Meta?

Because I have a house there. I know that the material, at this moment, is not being told. But his daughter is suing me for inheritance. So, the lawyer tells me, you go, she comes and takes possession. You are left without anyone, your son is in jail, you are on the street. Everything is bad.

Regardless of all that, the people of San Martin have helped me a lot. My boss has helped me a lot, both personally and as his job. Right now, the process is still going on. We are waiting for them to say, if they sentence my son, right?

How so?

Because right now, in the last hearing he had, he was already charged with a painful and premeditated sentence, which is a very long sentence. It's too long when I say a person who wasn't there.

And because they have to say that from what he saw, from what he heard, it was a premeditated sentence. It's been a long time since We never thought of something like that. We are not bad people. It was something that I never imagined would happen. Because you don't think you're going to have to go through that.

When is the reading of the Fallot?

On March 27th.

This year. Yes.

How do you feel, Giovanni? I'm scared. What could happen to me on March 27th? What decision will the judge make? More than anything, I'm scared. That's how I feel. I'm scared.

Who is defending you?

Dr. Federico Gutierrez. I don't have the means to pay a lawyer. I had to turn to a lawyer. At the beginning of the case, he told me that and he wants to send him for a painful and premeditated trial.

When it wasn't like that.

This situation is very hard.

My son is not a bad person. It's very hard to know that he is in this situation because of me.

I know there are many lawyers whootees who watch our podcast. I wish you the best. Thank you for coming. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being here. To you, Paola.

Thank you, friend. Thank you, friend.

Thank you.