PRESENTING 114TH DR VGP PODCAST FEATURING GEORGIA'S RISING STAR DR HEAVENLY KIMES THE CHAMPION

Hello and welcome to Dr. BGP's podcast that reaches 42 million households, including 2 million in America. Today, we have an unusual guest, a person who was brought up in America on food stamps, WIC program, who has seen the objects of poverty turned into one of the most successful professional women in the state of Georgia, Atlanta. Meet Dr. Heavenly Kimes, a professional practicing dentist.

Welcome to the VGP show today.

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celebration of service. I think it's very important that, like he said, that we have the increase in the middle

wage. It's very hard. I've seen first hand people who cannot afford health care. That's a major problem in this nation.

It's economics.

People can't afford food.

Anytime people can't afford food and we have to depend on snack food, something is wrong. Because we are one of the greatest countries in the world, we're one of the richest countries in the world, one of the richest countries in the world, contrary to popular belief. Because if we can get tax advantages and tax credits and bail out major corporations, we surely can take care of our people. We definitely have to increase the minimum wage up to $7.25, definitely not a livable wage. I think that home ownership again is one of the normal ways

to increase wealth in our community. And we need to be able to have home ownership. We need to have programs to educate people on how to get home ownership. Not only that, we need to teach them how to fix their credit.

We need to have down payment assistance programs and programs to help us keep up with everybody else. We're making sure that we can keep the state afloat. I think that the economy is a major problem in this country because things like child care should be free.

Education should be free.

If other countries can't do it and we can't give money to other countries, Dern and Sher can do it here. I think that the economy is something that's created, but I think that small businesses again are the backbone of the economy. And if we support small businesses, big jobs right here in our community,

we can help everybody build a better life.

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You go to Medicaid, right? And I don't know if y'all understand what the big beautiful bill means. The big beautiful bill means that you have to have certain criteria to even get Medicaid, right? Okay, you have to have 80 hours of workforce, right? You also have to have or community service and or you can actually have college credits, right? Where we break off is that when you when you turn 18 between the ages of 18 and 64, our brothers and sisters that cannot, that are autistic, mental health problems, things of

such, cannot get through that Georgia Pathways website. Y'all been on that website? We got some medical providers here. That Georgia Pathways website was designed to kick you off. And not only that, people don't understand that now with the big beautiful bill,

we have to re-register for Medicaid, Medicare every six months rather than a year. And a lot of black people don't even know it. So they're gonna be kicked off right and I'm looking at people in my community they don't have access to a fax machine or a computer some people in my community don't can't read and I don't know if y'all been on that job I have

hell trying to get through it so I'm telling you this is designed to hold us back and hold us down the first thing I would do the first thing amendment because it you know amendment to the Be Beautiful bill because Margie Taylor Greene said they not read it anyway right slide amendment in there right to extend the time to stay on that dang Medicaid because if people don't have Medicaid they're gonna flood ERs my husband worked in an ER for 15 years, flood the ER and I know a lot of people say hey you know what that's not my fight but I'm telling you it's going to be a fight whether you choose to engage or not because the fees are going to trickle down to you and your private

insurance as well. So yeah Medicaid is my thing. I understand healthcare backwards before. So that's my fight. Thank you. You have no clue and I appreciate you.

Thank you. Do we have any more questions in the room tonight?

Hey! You might want to ask who is Dr. Heavenly Kimes and let's ask her herself.

You know what? I'm a little girl that grew up in a room with no windows. I didn't realize that that was a big thing until I got on television and people made a big deal that I had no windows But one thing I did have was a vision That if I worked hard and I did the right things I could have the American dream and live the American dream And so with that I worked hard in school. I got great grades and actually got a full scholarship to college and without those scholarships

and the Army ROTC and the things that I know about, I could not be the person I am today.

Tell our viewers about your mother who worked in a laundromat and how the state childcare program or the free daycare program enabled her to enable her to mold you kids those days in the 70s to where you are today. You know what your dad tell about your lineage.

You know times were hard. It really were and I can remember my mom instilling me that if you work hard in this country you can actually have the American dream. I can remember my mom having burns in her arms from working in the laundry.

How old was your mom then?

She was 38 when she had me, she was 38. So that was kind of late, high risk, right? But she was working in the laundry and they came up with a childcare program. So if you had children, they would allow you to have childcare and they would actually pay for you to go back to school.

So she did, she took advantage of the program and she became a nurse, a LPN nurse.

Wow, at that age.

Yes.

Fantastic. What a...

And my dad, he was actually in the army. So he was in the army over 22 years. He, he was a veteran. He went to the Vietnam war and he came back a hundred percent disabled with

Agent Orange. Yeah.

So he was, he is a Vietnam War veteran disabled.

Yes.

Yes.

What a heritage.

And he actually went to school as well. He actually got his master's in psychology. So he was actually an assistant principal at a school at one point. He became a principal at a school. So we had a hardworking family, you know, we came from small means, but we actually use the public programs to actually assist us in getting and becoming better, you know, and my mom always told me I was smart. So from the time I was four years

old, she told me I was going to be a doctor, right?

She instilled in you.

She instilled in me.

That's very, you know, I am, I'm an Indian American, but I come from India. That's where our parents tell us what to do at that age. I'm talking about the 60s and 70s. That was the age they decide for us. Yes. It's very different from today's. My kids won't listen to me. They say, take a walk, dad.

You know, but that's something about speaking things over your children and speaking things into existence. So she was a very religious lady, you know, and she thought that if she prayed and she talked things over me and everything she told me, I believed it. So if she told me I was smart, I believed it, you know? So then I became smart because I started reading books and actually doing very well in school.

I actually graduated number five in my graduating class. And then I got a full scholarship, Army ROTC with a presidential scholarship to Florida A&M University. My father, Benoit Williams, he was an Indian. He was half Indian, half African-

Native American, you mean.

Native American Indian and half African-American. So his great-grandmother was a full Indian, native. Native American.

Which tribe did they belong to?

Blackfoot.

Blackfoot Indian. Blackfeet.

Yeah, Blackfoot.

Blackfeet.

Foot of Blackfoot tribe Blackfeet, Blackfoot, Blackfeet, I think it's Blackfoot, right?

Blackfoot, yeah.

In Florida?

Yeah, from Florida, from Panama City, Florida. His name was Benoy, Benoy Williams. Yeah, Native American.

So you have 50% of original... 25%, yes.

He was 50%.

He was 50%.

Oh, good. So you still qualify for all the Native American benefits. Yes. Because 25% bloodline is the qualifications. Now, tell me, you know, one interesting thing, guys, here you have a practicing dentist. She's married to a physician who works at Emory in Atlanta.

What's his name, by the way?

Damon Kimes. He no longer works at Emory. He actually trained at Emory.

Trained at Emory.

He actually has his own practice here in Roswell.

He's a Neon physician in interventional pain. Now with all what's going on today, guess what? Dr. Heavenly Kims is running for the US Congress. And she's running for the 13th district in Georgia. Isn't that amazing? Why are you doing it?

You have a lovely family, you're prosperous, you came out from the abject claws of poverty into a successful dentist. Your husband is a physician. You have everything going for you. What is it that you want to do more? Why are you running?

And above all, you're a 25 percent, they call it 25 percent bloodline of a Native American

Blackfoot tribe.

So go ahead, tell us.

Tell our viewers, why do you want to give up this whole successful, happy family professional setting which you are in to go and enter the field of politics and run for the Congress?

I think right is right, wrong is wrong. I'm a beneficiary of all the programs that allowed me to get the education I have and I cannot very well leave the people behind me behind.

When did you make this decision? I made it today in December, 2025.

I made this decision after the big beautiful bill, a big ugly bill. Yeah. This, this year, this year,

August, late August, the government shut down. Yes.

Before the government shut down late August, the big beautiful bill. Which month? August, August, late August. Before the government shut down? Yes, before the government shut down, late August, the big beautiful bill. I looked at this bill and I knew firsthand that already people could not afford medical insurance. They could not afford, you know, their healthcare premiums. They could not afford their prescription drugs, right? So I'm seeing firsthand by working with patients, seeing that they could not afford to pay for

their treatment, right? My husband and I talk about it all the time, and people on Medicaid and Medicare are the sickest people. They're the people that need those benefits the most, right? In my district, so many people in our district were going to be put off that Medicaid program. So tell our viewers, what are the important places in 13th district of Georgia. Yes, the 13th district actually starts in Gwinnett County, Snellville, Loganville, all the way down to Clayton County,

which is Jonesboro, Lake Spivey, those areas. I actually live in Rockdale County, which covers Conyers and such. So my main thing is making sure that our district is represented. We have not heard from our congressman.

He has not done anything that we can see. And a lot of people in our district just do not know him. It is actually new district. It's a gerrymandered district. And I've owned a dental practice in every county

of this district.

In this district.

So are you doing it because you're personally affected as a dentist or are you doing it for the bigger, larger of the people like you said?

It's the people because they are not just my patients, not just my community, but this is my family because I've actually been serving them for over 25 years. So I know firsthand. I know these people.

We go television for over 12 years.

So what are you talking about television? What did you do in reality TV?

Reality TV is a show about it's called Married to Medicine. It's on Bravo TV. It's about doctors and doctors wives. Of course, it includes drama, but actually shows us giving back to the community, actually showing us what we go through.

Give me three examples how the reality TV program you're associated with give back to the community.

Oh yeah, we went to the March on Washington during COVID and actually did free COVID testing. My husband and I actually did free COVID testing within the community at the churches here. We also give back by doing dental initiatives, free dental exams, x-rays, medical initiatives and give back to school programs. So we've given a whole lot. We always do a health care initiative every year on our show. Now, you know, today's administration by our great President Donald Trump,

Yes.

Has a lot of media personality serving in this cabinet in key positions. You have a TV anchor as the defense secretary. You could never imagine that would happen. You have a lot of podcasters given important roles in the administration. So you do you think the social media is influencing and there's a tie-in today where they are taking the prime spot as the most successful career because you can from the media you

can punch out to anything like for you instance your reality TV has given you a grasp of what the people's issues are which is broughtened your horizon from a simple housewife practicing dentistry. So what's your take on that?

My take is definitely social media plays a part. That's how Barack Obama won and nobody actually saw him coming because he actually used something new in order to build his grassroots and his actual income for his practice, for his candidacy. But my thing is social media is some of it, but it's not all of it. You actually have to go into the communities,

talk to the people, and I've been to different parts of our community, and from the South part, they say that they have an issue with mental illness, mental health care.

Behavioral health is the number one problem America is going to have. All public health pundits like myself have predicted 2030 that's the biggest challenge

we are going to face in this country. And I went and talked to the sheriffs there and their main thing was 44% of the people in jails right now were not true criminals. They were actually people with mental health disparities.

So let's get back to your congressional race. How many years has your incumbent been in office and which party does he belong to? He's in the Democratic.

And what is his race? Okay, he's in the Democratic Party. He's actually been in seat for over 21 years. He's 80 years old. And just people have not seen him. He's not really... Is he planning to retire? I don't know. I know he's running. However, people haven't seen him. It's been said that he hasn't voted in six years. He's been demoted from his agricultural position.

That itself is the number one issue. Why you should take over the 13th District. You don't need any other reason. In my opinion, my humble opinion, because if the people's voice is not heard in the U.S. House of Congress of Congress is very important. Now what are the real issues in 13 districts? If you're given a scale 1 to 5, could you scale them 1 being the most important and

5th being the least?

The most important issue in our district is affordability. A lot of people cannot afford to pay their bills. The housing industry is being taken over by investors and they're raising the rent so nobody can afford to live where they work in our district. That's a big issue. The third one would probably be health care, health care, Medicaid, Medicare, access to

health care, affordable health care, access to ACA benefits. Fourth one is criminal justice, meaning they have a lot of crime, gang activity going on in Snellville and such.

So you would like stronger criminal action, criminal action,

action and working with the police officers to actually understand.

Would you go with no cash bond or with cash bond?

I would definitely go with I would go in. Now, that's the question that I got. They caught me because it depends because the cash bond means that anybody of substance can get off. So I would say no cash bond because good. It's certain people in our system to get over, you know, if they got a cash bond, it's really

no no no no no no nothing that would discourage them from doing things. If they have a whole lot of money, it's not a discouragement, you know, but if you're

saying you're for the system to still have the cash bond system which used to exist in some states.

I think in my district we don't want to have a cash bond because it's not fair. Meaning that the people in our district, right, they're being held with...

But wouldn't you say that if you have no cash bond then everybody can be let out?

I think that it should be fair. I think the law should be fair. It think that I think the law should be fair is right and right as long as long for the same thing. I think one person getting a cash bond and getting to go free and this person that does has done the same thing and what is the fifth issue the fifth issue would have to be

education education and the right so you're hearing dr.

Heavenly kinds of a democratic candidate challenging an incumbent who has not voted for the past six years in the 13th district of Georgia, identifying the five major issues in her district. One is affordability, second is housing, and the housing issues, and then third is healthcare, fourth is the criminal justice system and fifth is

education. You sound more like the Mamdani of New York. What is your take on it? Would you would you would like to be referred as the Mamdani for the 13th district and called a communist or a socialist?

I would like to be Dr. Heavenly of the district, somebody that's here to serve the people and

be the voice of the people.

Very well answered, ma'am. Very well. So now, you've heard some of the issues of the district. You know why Dr. Heavenly Kimes is running. Tell us and the people, why should they vote for you

as the next Congresswoman of the 13th District of Georgia?

You know, when I go into my district,

the main-

Give me five points me five points. Okay. Three points. The main thing in my district, they're looking for somebody that can trust somebody that's real and relatable. Yes. I do have the credentials of being a doctor and running a business and

creating jobs within the system. You're one of the people's heart already trust is dead. Yes. Second. Yes. They know me. I have the, I've created jobs in the community. But mostly they want somebody that's going to be there for them.

When they get these seats in Congress, the people in the district don't hear from them

anymore.

So you'll be present, accessible.

Yes, accessible. Yes, absolutely.

So you just heard Dr. Heavenly Kimes telling all you guys out there, 13 to 16, others from across the country want to change and shape to have a congressman who can listen to her constituents. One, why vote or why support congressman Dr. Hemley Kimes is she would be there for the people. I've been serving the people over 25 years. She has a record of 15 to how many years? 25 years. 25 years of undisturbed service to the people in dental care. She would also be, she's a leader. She's accessible to them and she has earned the trust of the people.

And more importantly, today she has done, showing she has created jobs and will continue to do that. I mean, that's a wonderful thing. that's a wonderful, good for people to know that why we should support you. I mean those of you who are not in the 13th district can support her. You can support her in different ways and you can still reach out to her and you can see in the email scrolling down on the TV screens or wherever you are watching on your phones, on your desktops, on watching this show, how to reach Dr. Heavenly Kimes,

who's trying to make a difference in everyday people's life. And she knows what poverty means and what education and these different programs which have been offered could change one's life. Here's a living example, a testament to that. My question before going into the next few minutes, if you are the president of United States of America, what are the first three things you will do in the first

hundred days? You know what? It would have to still be that Medicare Medicaid. I think that 1.5 trillion dollars have been given to the richest people in this nation. I think that it's not a point of... Okay, let's pause for a moment

then. You are saying Medicare and I would expand it. I would expand it. So how will you expand it?

Well, what we have to do is actually give back subsidies to each state so they can actually do a Medicaid system.

So are you, are you in agreement with the managed care organizations, which the Affordable Health Care Act of Obama set up? I saw private few chosen entities were given the large sums of federal money, which before used to be directly given from the federal government to the state governments to disperse through the public aid system. And why would you have this private barrier of the rich people making the money?

That's the question to you.

I'm always going to be for the common people because God said before I meet people.

So you would like it to go back to the old system where the freds flow the money to the state and the state directly reimburses the providers like yourself, your husband, the ancillary services instead of having a middleman taking 50-60%.

Absolutely.

Absolutely. I would like to remove the middleman, the insurance companies from being so profitable.

Very well said. And that's really an issue which people didn't think when they brought the Affordable Health Care Act. And I think I'm great. Dr. Hemley, that's one. What is the second one that you do?

The second thing I would do was make sure that everybody had free. I mean, in other countries, they have free health care. They have free education, right? Free childcare. I think those things can easily states offer free childcare or subsidized childcare. Not always, but yes, they should. And I think health care should be free and education should be free as well.

I think that people are owing too much when they get out of school. Like the student loans are crazy. A lot of people when I graduated, we owed over $250,000 in student loans without a job in sight. So a lot of times I think people are not looking at the trade jobs and getting the federal grants for the different construction jobs.

So would you agree with the statement I'm saying that you want the American youth and employable population to be trained and educated here so you can bring back jobs and keep it in America, bring back manufacturing in America instead of outs, and stuff, outsourcing to other countries and other sources.

Yes, I would think we should keep the jobs right here in America.

Okay, we have a few more minutes while we close. I would like to ask you some questions back again to your congressional race. What do you think of the immigration? What's your stand on that?

My honest opinion on the immigration is that it is a form of racism because only black and brown people are being caught up in ICE. I don't see any Irish people.

Now, what do you think about this? You just talked about you want to educate and train American people in America and bring back manufacturing and jobs in America. So what do you think about the system called H1 visa, which is giving foreigners work visa to come in and bring foreign expertise.

I think that's great. I think that people need a clear, concise way to come in this country legally. I think that they should not be profiled when they're here. And I think it's actually a racial issue where they're actually targeting black and brown people. I don't see them targeting anybody Irish or anybody coming to the country from other borders, only the southern borders and what their concern is, which leads me to believe that, you know,

they're targeting certain people.

You know, there's a big talk and you are a very, your lineage is very unique, significant and interesting at this point of time in history in our country because you are 25% your bloodline is Native American and 75% African American your father was 50% Native American. Let me ask you and you can tell our viewers Who does America belong to today?

Well America should be belong to the people the people who created this country the Native Americans the people that came here Also the African Americans that built this country, the Native Americans, the people that came here, also the African Americans that built this country. I think that this country belongs right now to the top 1% or less than 1%, but after that, it shouldn't be that way. It should belong to the people.

Well, you just heard Dr. Heavenly Kimes, a Democratic candidate for the 13th Congressional District of Georgia, talking about how she would do things differently than the current incumbent who has not gone to vote according to Dr. Kimes for the last six years in the House of Congress.

He has voted in an election. Yes, he has not voted in an election even for himself, any election. And he's been demoted from his congressional seat in agriculture, his leadership position in agriculture.

Yes. Okay. And now the stage has been set and we thank Dr. Kimes for joining us on the show. In concluding, we'd like to ask a few more questions about your personal, which will give our viewers what type of a personality you are. To me, you come across as a very impactful, no-nonsense

person. You have goal driven, set yourself and you know what you want and what to do to change based on your 25 years of dealing with the people and knowing the needs and wants in your 13th district. Now if you're given an opportunity to take three people out for dinner from the past to the present, who would those three people be?

Could be mentors, heroes who would make a difference, whatever they could go ahead. Interesting. Barack Obama,

for sure, for sure. But Marjorie Taylor Greene, I want to know what, what incited her to switch over. And, you know, a lot of people judge her, but I would love to hear her real story of what made her change her mind, you know, and third and foremost, if I could go backwards, I would like to talk to Shirley Chisholm. She was the first black congresswoman ever.

So I'd like to see what you just heard. Dr. Heavenly Kimes tell us the three people should like to take for dinner out. One is Obaka Obama. But at the same time, she said you didn't like Obama's affordable health care policy, which brought managed care into the system and country which is fine. Second what gave me chills and shivers while she's mentioned the name of Majorie Greene.

Now for all of our viewers, Majorie Greene is a Republican Congresswoman in the state of Atlanta, Georgia, who just recently announced that she's resigning and giving up her seat in January. So we'll wait to hear what comes up. I think there's more toigning and giving up her seat. In January. In January. So we'll wait to hear what comes up. I think there's more to it.

I do too.

I would love to hear the story. And you have, your mind shows that you're poised for change.

Yes.

You're really for the people. And I think you mentioning her name shows how relevant it is in today's thing. And third, of course, is Shirley Shims, who we all know is the first black Congresswoman elected in the history, made a big difference. In closing, we'd like to, in three words, describe yourself. I mean, I could use 100 adjectives to describe you in the last 25 minutes, but I just met you, but you do it yourself.

People say I'm aggressive.

You are. I agree. I'm focused.

I agree. And I have a strong mind and I always get what I want because I will change what I'm doing in order to get to my goals. If I'm not doing the right thing, I won't give up. It's perseverance.

This is Dr. Heavenly Kimes. You just heard a person of my choice. She describes herself as aggressive. She describes herself as focused, goal oriented and describes herself as flexible to meet her goals. Yes, very well said.

Now, Dr. Hemantli Kimes, I give you your time to tell our viewers and the rest of the world, including your residents, anything you want to say which is spurned men for the next two to three minutes, all yours. Look into the main camera and

the choice is clear. Do you want somebody that remains silent or somebody that's going to fight for this district? I actually am a doctor. I've been working in this district for over 25 years, so I know the issues of this district. These people are not just my patients.

They're not just my community, but they're my family. Make sure you go to my website, Dr. Heavenly for Georgia, that's Dr. Heavenly, F-O-R, Georgia, and show how we can actually make a change. A lot of people feel like their vote doesn't count. We need our people to get up and get out and vote. We saw what happened in the last election. There was a wave of Democrats that happened. Your vote does count.

You must get out and vote May 19th, 2026 and vote for Dr. Heavenly Kimes for Georgia District 13.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

It was a dynamite.

Thank you.

Absolutely. You literally brought the stage on fire. Thank you. Absolutely. Conversation. You literally brought the stage on fire.

Thank you for having me.

And I feel that enthusiasm and wish you every success as you go to conquer the district, 13th district of Georgia.

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