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Eagles jumped out to a nice lead and then didn't do anything. Such a weird team.

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Jalen Hurts throws a... He threw for zero yards.

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Zero.

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Now the good news is...

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In the second half.

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Yeah, second half. The Eagles also have zero losses. So that's good. Meanwhile, AJ Brown is tweeting the scripture, bro. If you're not welcome, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders,

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and be on the way. Now, can't make fun of him, he's quoting the Bible, so everyone tread carefully.

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I'm glad to see he's in his word. That's a little out of context. That was when Jesus sent the disciples out to preach the gospel. He wasn't talking about sports or targets or whatever.

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What's the question?

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You want the question?

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Yeah, thank you for that.

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Fair to be worried about the 4-0 Eagles.

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Honestly, I'm gonna say no. Like, why? Their 4-0, their last three wins have been against Super Bowl contenders. And I get they should have a standard and look at their games and say we got to improve. But as far as AJ Brown, I'm either ignoring him. He had nine targets yesterday.

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I know but they're fake targets.

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Some of them he wasn't open. Some of them he wasn't open. They tried to force it to him, but he got some targets and here's my thing coach as hard as it is to win games in the NFL. I don't think you can get into style points and things like that. Now again, you need to look and say look guys, we

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really aren't playing. Well. Fortunately, we've been winning, but let's improve this. Let's execute this better. But I think the two years ago when they fell into the supernatural funk, it was because they bought into,

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well, yeah, we're 10 and one, but the wins have been ugly. They've been too close. We haven't played well. And eventually, I caught up to him. The Chiefs last year. I mean, they knew they needed to play better, but they weren't

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buying that. I don't remember. They were thrilled. Press conferences. No, they're like, you'll go on there.

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We're not playing. Well, we that you it's so tough to win that if you keep winning, you should be happy with that. Even

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as you continue to work on your weakness. Coach, can I show you this graphic that speaks to Brew

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this century? Josh, I love when you do this century stuff.

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It makes it feel very long for a note with each win by one score. Like you said, Brewers last year's Chiefs, which lost the Super Bowl. The Jets lost a vision around and the Vikings

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lost the NFC Conference Championship. So,

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I don't know this this bodes well, although everything is ugly. I don't know that I agree that bodes well.

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You don't think so?

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Why?

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Because the Jets? No, no, no, because only the Eagles want to get back to the Super Bowl. What that shows is that it's rare and only one of the teams that did it got to the Super Bowl. I don't think it bodes terribly, but I don't think it bodes well.

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I like to miss Super Bowl. OK, yeah. Or miss playoffs I get nervous about. Nothing says go away quietly like posting on X.

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Right.

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Let me quote the Bible and talk about going away quietly, but make sure that everybody knows that I'm going away quietly. There's nothing quiet about that. So here's where my concern is. Last year, when the book came out, remember,

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and they did that great piece on how year when the book came out, remember? And they did that great piece on how he used the book on the sideline for motivation. It was such a good piece, really insightful. I got that bookmarked at home. So, that happened during the playoffs.

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So, that was a long, long time in the season. Now we're week four and we're already at the quotes and the discontent. And to me, if they give in to this, that's going to create the problem. If they start feeding this complaining,

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that's going to create the problem. Would everybody in Philly be happier if they lost a game but A.J. Brown had 15 catches? Like A.J. would be happy, but would anybody else be happy?

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So we can't, hold on.

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Go ahead.

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Are you gonna go away quietly?

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No, no, no, I'm gonna answer your question about would everybody else be happy? And the answer is maybe. So here's the thing. First of all, because what's going on in Philadelphia right now, this isn't concern trolling.

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This is historically unprecedented. Like, Jalen Hurts just had a game that we haven't seen since Jake Delhomme, where you threw that much in the second half, you don't complete a pass. If we show you their first half, second half this week, Dust, what you see is, that should be impossible.

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And then when you realize, it's back-to-back games like this, just in reverse order. Yes. Like Eagles play a normal game challenge. Impossible. Like first. So that is.

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So here is.

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And they hung 30 out.

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No no no.

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So here is. So here is where I will today. Because I complimented the Eagles last week. Wilds didn't take it as this when I said they're the new chiefs as far as even when you win you get nitpicked the close whatever. Take a page out of the Chiefs two years ago when they were the defending champions playbook and practice use part of the games

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row as practice even if it might, maybe it costs you a game, but work on this stuff, not just to satiate AJ Brown, but also to get better at it.

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Like they-

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How about though we work, I think that's smart, but let's work on that against some of the

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lower lesser teams, not Tampa Bay.

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In practice. Because it's not, because that some of the lower lesser teams. Not Tampa Bay. Why don't we work on that in practice? Because that doesn't make A.J. Brown happy. And I understand it should. Coach, listen. I understand this is not the platonic ideal for a wide receiver to help you go win a Super Bowl.

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But it's the wide receiver you got. And he's one of the greatest in the history of your franchise as far as the all pros, the prolificness, all of it. And if you are trying to get through another 15, 17 games together, you need to do it. And that Chiefs team that you guys gave me a hard time on, that I said was practicing, was the one that lost games in the

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middle of the year, that did have to go on the road. And then in the playoffs, could knew everything they could do and play every different type of way that they needed to play. If you're Philly, because they are a great team, and I still have some concerns about the defense, but Dejean keeps getting better and better.

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So you have a little regular season wiggle room. And what you can't, in my opinion, afford is the week seven Jay Glazer Fox NFL Sunday report of A.J. Brown is requesting a trade.

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To where?

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Maybe back to Tennessee.

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No, not back to Tennessee.

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He wants to do England. He wants to do England.

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But like, do you understand? I agree.

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That's to me like, you know, I, not back to Tennessee. It was old code. He wants to go back to Tennessee.

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But like, do you understand?

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No, I agree.

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That's to me, like, like, coach, I was going to say, he was doing this last year and they won the Super Bowl. To me, where it becomes really problematic is if he does request a trade.

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Yeah, it really becomes a fact. I don't know if you're up on the Eagles cap situation, but I thought it was like very punitive to trade A.J. Brown. I bet it is.

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I don't think A.J. Brown is that concerned about how punitive it would be for Howie Roseman. I'm not even saying they necessarily would trade him. I'm saying once a player requests a trade..

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So do you think mid-season, if they're undefeated, that A.J. Brown would say, I would rather go to a team that's probably not gonna make the playoffs, but I'm gonna get that many more catches.

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He told us that. He tweeted that.

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He coached.. He literally three days after the Super Bowl put on Instagram, I'm paraphrasing. I didn't ask the producers to pull it. But I'm not unfairly paraphrasing. I thought winning a Super Bowl would make me happy. Turns out I was wrong. What makes me happy is seeing a D back demoralized from me crushing him like it was.

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He told us what makes him go and he is trying to. And this is where I give AJ

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Brown I try to give him a

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I've got an extra for you.

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So there will be something.

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He's trying. He's he's right now. Control like doing, he's trying to be a good teammate. Honestly, he's like, I'm not, I'm not throwing a tantrum, I'm not mouthing off to reporters, but he's that frustrated. And they're undefeated. That's the other thing.

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How does this work out if Baker doesn't throw that pick? You know what I mean? If one of these games had they lost, like is the only reason it's not a real tipping point is because, yes, we're winning.

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Like they're not going to go undefeated. Last year when they threw all those passes, we didn't have to debate, you know, what it would be like if they were undefeated because they weren't. They were 2-2. Didn't work out that way.

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More on the Eagles shortly. We've got to get to Brew's grade here. Cowboys Packers ends in a tie. Dak has four total touchdowns, 319 yards. George Pickens has the best day as a Cowboy. Brew is just quietly underneath Dak's soundbite trying to figure out what previous grades he had given.

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He's trying to calculate their GPA on the floor. Yeah,

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I think I gave him a C plus for the loss to the Eagles. You definitely gave him a B or early in the year for a week. I gave him a B. You gave him a B and I gave him a big report. I gave him a B in the Eagles. Yeah, and then I gave him a C in the loss. Yes, in the lower law. So I grade the Cowboys on a curve. Oh, all right. Yeah, there was coach. Everyone thought they maybe set you because I know Schottenheimer's

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your boy, but everybody else thought they were going to get clobbered. Right? Micah's coming in there. You don't have CD lamb. I mean, I thought it was going to be over, especially with the way the Packers started going up 13-0, Jordan Love throws the bomb. The Cowboys showed some heart. They showed some fight. They showed some toughness.

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Dak was phenomenal. My man, Javonte Williams, was great. The running game was back.

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Your guy, George Pickens.

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George Pickens did his thing. He dropped some easy ones. He dropped another easy one, but he was fantastic. And look, the defense came up with the big fumble recovery and then the special teams. So you got it all three left. The defense wasn't great, but they did

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force the fumble. That's all I'm saying on Jordan love and then the special teams point. So I gave them it's a tie. Yeah, but I gave him an A-. Wow. The minus is for I can't give you an A in a tie anything but a win, but I thought they were strong.

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When's the last time they got an A?

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This might be the first.

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I feel like this is.

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This might be a first. But I respect to the Cowboys for what they did yesterday.

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Yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent. You go into that game and I know I know Green Bay had hopes of going undefeated that were fast last week against the Browns. Unfortunate and then I mean that Micah Parsons. Well, he didn't save the game. No, he did. I mean that sack that he

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had chasing back down the back. I mean, that was. I mean, it saved the game, Coach. That was worth being the highest paid non-player back.

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Well, it was worth, it was.

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Just that alone.

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It's why they didn't lose the game.

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I mean, 40 points. I mean, a look. That, the micro factors, they're right there.

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They would have had 70.

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Yes, but Dak was going to run for a touchdown. And won the game. And was C.. Oh, C.D. Lamb didn't. Alright, so they didn't have their best receiver. Their best player was in Green Bay because he got traded there. And I am so impressed with Dak. And I feel like I've been hard on Dak in the sense that I think he's been a good quarterback but never saw him as being the highest paid quarterback and being that elite sort of force

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multiplier. But it's hard to argue that what he's done this season hasn't been elite and hasn't been a force multiplier. And he has put them on their back and willed them to levels that I didn't think they were going to be able to show this early on, especially with the struggles that they've had defensively.

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But he's been really, really impressive.

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Yeah, if they had one difference making defensive player, they'd be three and one.

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Yeah.

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Listen, Coach. Or what's Green Bay?

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Two, one and one?

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Green Bay is two, one and one.

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One of those games, they allowed essentially three points on defense. Like, I was surprised that Dallas was able to keep it close because I was surprised that they were able to move the ball the way they were without C.D. Lamb. And while I disagree wholeheartedly with basically

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everything Coach has said about Micah, I agree with him wholeheartedly about, I think, and I know, Brew, you mentioned the other day about like Dax numbers hadn't been great this I thought Dax been playing And finally he had the stats of

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an awesome game. And I've been really impressed

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by Schottenheimer.

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I have to give like I have to be They they are a prolific offensive team and they were able to do it in this game without one of their better offensive linemen, without their best receiver, you know, with, you know, a running back that we all thought was just, you know, kind of replacement level. And Dak's been great and the

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offense has been interesting. And I also thought they managed the game better than Green Bay did, which I know we'll talk about Green Bay's side of it later. Yeah, and so, I mean, listen, I can't get over the Micah trade when I watch this team score the way they score because I do feel like that if they just had the 20th best defense in football that they could be a real problem this year.

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The team he's on gave up 40 points.

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And the team he's on had been dominant in the the three games prior defensively they had one bad defensive game

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Don't you think if they have Mike I think they'd be a legit they would have NFC head across the pond where the Steelers took Care of Carson Wentz and the Vikings Rogers had exactly 200 yards and the Steelers defense held strong at the end of just debacle Here's the standings, Brew. Check this out. AFC North standings. The Steelers are 3-1, but they have the second best odds. Then it's the Bengals who play tonight.

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They've got the third best odds. Then it's the 1-3 Ravens who actually have the best odds to win the AFC North by a lot for all the gamblers out there. Now does this give you hope? Are you concerned that the division now belongs to the Steelers?

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I think it all depends on Lamar. Like does he miss it? Is this a hamstring injury where he misses a game or two? They need to beat Houston and the Rams or at least at least one of them. Yeah. And so, you know, if not really both, if he misses, say a game or two and they lose it. Now you're starting to that record starting to really get poor. If he plays next weekend and mentally he's fine. I mean, obviously it was a tough weekend for him. If he's fine,

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then I think they'll still win the division. They're only two games back and they played the Steelers twice. So they still control their own destiny. And now the schedule does get lighter.

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I think it's the eighth easiest schedule, according

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to Bill Barnwell from here on.

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Yeah.

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I think the Steelers should make the playoffs. I do think at this point, they, I mean,

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looking at the AFC, I do, too. Their defense has been decimated, right? There's seven out of 11 starters didn't play. So, that's almost the whole team. And it's as bad as it looked, any team is going to look pretty bad if you're losing seven out of your 11 starters.

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It's crazy they were favored.

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And they've got Lamar. And it wasn't his best game this past weekend. But I don't think that by any stretch, this is going to continue the way it's gone. You're not worried about the devastating hamstring injury? I'm not worried about that. I'm not really worried about Derrick Henry's fumbles.

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I would imagine that those two guys at any point could switch

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back to what we've seen.

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And they could run away with the division. And at any point, Aaron and Pittsburgh could go pumpkin.

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Yeah.

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Oh, listen.

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So their defense is picked up.

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I fully expect Lamar to instantly look like Lamar again because he he's looked like Lamar every moment of since he came back, since he signed the new contract, he's always looked like Lamar every moment of since he came back since he signed a new contract. He's always look like Lamar. He has been absolutely unbelievable except for in very specific high leverage moments when he has looked exactly like

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I expect Lamar Jackson to look like you you tweeted like you you know, this team is unrecognizable and recognizable and I said like it's totally recognizable to me. It's exactly what I what I expect. So I don't think there's going to be lingering effects for Lamar.

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I think that, again, assuming he's playing, I bet he'll play really well against Houston, even though Houston is a great

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defense. I don't think so.

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It was a weird injury that none

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of us saw him.

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Like, we didn't know when it happened and none of the

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trainers helped him. There's always a score when he had that

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17. They were no, they were down 710. Was it that the they were down 7, 7, 2, 1 Cooper Rush came back in. It was there was a 13 and when Tony Romo said they might be getting a spark from Cooper Rush. There was a play that people are now kind of pointing to. I don't know who tracks him down Chanel, maybe where he's like running to the run to the first down marker where he just doesn't look like Lamar. No, it looks like 75. He's not, you know,

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he's not maybe it was limping, but he just doesn't know. And listen and horrible to yesterday after the game horrible was like when he was asked, could he have gone back and he was like, I don't know. Harbaugh today said, no, he couldn't have gone back in. Now, we didn't hear from Lamar because the Ravens have a policy of if you leave a game with injury,

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you're not allowed to do interviews. It's like a league policy? No, it's the team's policy is if you leave a game with an injury, you're not allowed or you don't have the Ravens team policy. That is the player leaves with injury.

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So if Lamar said, excuse me, I understand it is a team rule, but I'm Lamar Jackson multiple time MVP facing up my arch rival in a huge game and we're one in three. I need to address the media and I came out in the third quarter. They would have said no! I think the Ravens, whoever's big dom for the Ravens tackles them.

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It's like you're not allowed. But can I just answer the question quickly? Because I know we're going to talk more Ravens and Chiefs in a minute. I.. We are still talking about the Ravens as if they don't have the

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worst defense in the league. We are still talking about the Ravens as if they don't have the worst defense in the league. And when you have the worst defense in the league, you can lose any game you play. True. That's the..

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Like, so I am not worried that Lamar is not going to play well against Houston or the Rams or after the bye. I'm not worried about that. I am worried if I were a Ravens fan that a Houston team that had.. I know they ended up blowing out the Titans. They had six points late into that game.

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But Nick, are you saying that when the Ravens have all their players on defense, they're still the worst defense? What I'm saying is that.. Whenever we talk about Kansas City when they're injured

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receivers and they can't, you know,

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throw from more than 150 yards, it's always,

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well, as soon as they get those guys back. Right. But they're not getting Matt Aboukay back. Matt Aboukay is done for the year. They're secondary I had questions about beforehand.

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Last year.. I'm trying to just put it in context.

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They will get better.

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As they get healthy, do you still feel like I don't think they will be I don't think they will be 32nd, but I watched the Ravens defense week one when it was fully healthy allow 41. And so I don't I and I watched the Ravens defense for the first 10 weeks of last year. Be awful and then flip a guy seemingly and we thought I

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think it will get better this. I think the Packers. I'm sorry, the Packers, I'm sorry, the Steelers are not as good as a 3-1 record. But I still think Baltimore needs to get to 10 wins to win the division.

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Previous two times the Ravens were 1-3, 0-5 in 2015 and they missed the playoffs. You know First Things First, it's that show where they huddle up before every question. Not this segment. No huddle. Jordan Love had three touchdowns, but a costly fumble that gave the Cowboys some momentum turned the game. Micah didn't wreck the game, but maybe he saved it in what went down as a sack. And over time, Dak was shocked that was registered as a sack. Here's a somewhat frustrated…

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This Dak running for the winning touchdown. Oh, Hawk down.

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How did we crown the Packers too early?

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I mean, look, the Packers are my pick to get to the Super Bowl and the NFC. I feel good about that pick. But anyone who was like, it's over, they're head and shoulders above everybody else in the NFC, yeah, that's too soon.

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But I still, I don't feel like they're not a Super Bowl contender. Like, I think anybody saying, oh, are they really a legit contender? That's crazy. And you can get it. The last two games haven't been great. You can't name an elite team in the league

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or any team for that matter that has not looked bad at times. Tampa beat three teams that are one in eight. I don't know what they did this weekend the record now, but then lost to the only winning team they played. The Chiefs obviously had their moments of looking bad. The Chargers just lost to the winless

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Giants. Obviously the Ravens, the Bills, the Saints gave them all they wanted for most of that game and the week before Miami did the same. So I just think that this was not good. And I said last week coach. I kind of think this is good for them because they I get it The Cleveland game should have been the wake-up call But I think this team is kind of they're young. They really been feeling themselves. We got this superstar and Micah

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We're gonna roll through the league. I think yesterday they went into Dallas thinking They're gonna roll over. We're about to tear them up. Then all of a sudden, especially they go up 13-0, you relax, then you find you're in a game. And other teams got momentum, and now you got to get it back going. And so, no, I still think they're fine

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as far as going forward.

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Yeah, they got that same wake-up scenario that my kids do. So they set like 17 alarms. So, he has to clean them in like one week of fall, and then we'll go to Dallas, we'll get the snooze button. I mean, a few weeks ago, were they going undefeated? I think they were going undefeated.

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One, they needed it.

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They needed it.

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That's why they needed it now.

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Look, Mike is mad. Mike, you know who's mad? Mike, everybody, 40 points. That's a smidge above a cut out. It's right there. And then the sack he had, I mean, that was dynamic.

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That was a huge play though. It's overtime. He's got to score a touchdown. That alone justifies a trade. Just that.

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And C.D. Lamb had a great..

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Hold on. Can I say what I actually thought? I mean, CD Lamb had a great. He didn't play. Hold on.

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We're into the Cowboys in a second. Hold on. Can I say what I actually think is the bigger story? Listen, I believe the Packers defense is going to be excellent. I think that they played three A-level games defensively and then played a really poor game yesterday.

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I think what Coach talks to us a lot about, which is walking in thinking this is going to be easy. You know, there's no CD lamb. There's that. And you would have hoped that that wouldn't have happened because the Browns lost.

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But Packers defense didn't leave that Browns game thinking we played poorly. They're like, we played great. Like, we played poorly. They're like, we played great. Like, we're awesome. So, that's not what concerns me for the Packers. What concerns me for the Packers is the end of that game. Because one of two things was going on.

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Or kind of both things. Matt LaFleur, if you don't watch the very end of the game, let me just kind of set it up. New overtime rules, both teams get the ball no matter what. The same as before, if one team kicks a field goal, though, you get a chance to match. But also, at the end of 10 minutes, game's over, no matter what. Cowboys didn't have timeouts.

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The Packers got the ball down there quick, relatively. And then maybe in part because, understandably, LeFleur was so terrified of Aubrey. Yeah. That like if we leave him 20 seconds, if we leave him 20 seconds, he's in the midfield. You know what I mean?

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We're in trouble.

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But the thing is this. You score a touchdown and Brandon Aubrey's out of it. The game is over with a touchdown. He didn't seem to call plays that fully trusted Jordan Love definitely is not going to turn this ball over. Even though Jordan Love was

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playing really well and then that to me was justified by the Packers butchering the end. They they were incredibly lucky that the Cowboys home clock operator forgot he was the

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Cowboys home clock operator and had a real true trigger because if he it felt like they were a quarter of a second. Yeah. You know what I mean? When does that play? When does that play actually when the ball when the ball touches the ground when the ball hits the ground right and it was and so like I've been like they yeah they but they

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almost got a procedural penalty on that, which would have been 10-second run off and off and gone. Love didn't realize that because he kept it in bounds and because even when he kept it in bounds, the guy was slow getting up and getting the ball over, that I know we had two plays called, but now I just have to spike it. Or if I can't spike it, you know what I mean?

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They almost blew it. They almost really blew it. And that's the part that concerns me was they're going to be in these close high leverage spots. LaFleur didn't seem to fully trust him. And then Love didn't seem to fully deal with it well, even though he played a really, like he scored 40 points,

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played a really good game. But that part worries me a little bit. As much as I like J-Lo, there are some things. He could have had an interception yesterday.

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He got called back.

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Alright, Cowboys side of things. Dak easily handled this Valley Hood Packers defense. He threw for almost 320. He had three TDs, ran one in. Coach, your reaction?

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I felt personal. That was very personal. He's taking some serious balls there. Hey, it's easy. The guy I kept was indispensable. The other guy, eh, not so much.

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Now this.. I don't know if I would be taking such a strong bow at this point because there's so much football left. And I think Mike is going to have a significant impact on Green Bay. And he's going to play great.

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I know I give him a hard time. But that's going to work out well for Green Bay. And we don't know how well it's going to work out for Dallas because we won't know until we see what draft picks they got. This, granted it was a tie and I'm sure Jerry wanted to win. But Jerry could not have thought going into this game that they were going to hang 40 on this defense and Micah was barely going to have any contribution to the game.

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But I don't know if I would be too smug right now until this all plays out.

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Yeah, I look, I don't think he was vindicated. Like you said, it was, it was a great showing because we all thought they were going to get blown away. Only way he's vindicated in this trade is if Micah does not win a Super Bowl with the pack, you know, during this prime, like these next five years or whatever doesn't win a Super Bowl with the pack, you know, during this prime, like these next five years or whatever, doesn't win a Super

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Bowl in Green Bay and those draft picks from the trade become great players and help Dallas become. I'll just say a legitimate Super Bowl contender where maybe they get to the championship game. Maybe they get to the Super Bowl. That's

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the only way it's vindicated to be. Listen, this might seem unfair, but it's just how I truly feel. Every game, the Cowboys offense looks great and they don't win. I feel like this trade gets worse. Every game like this where it's because by the way, they didn't trade Micah for two firsts and an offensive player. They traded Micah for two firsts and Kenny Clark, a defensive player

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like they the impact of that trade on this season, you know, has nothing to do with the offense at all. And the offense is humming and Dak is playing great. And so, I look at it as the exact opposite. The Cowboys through four games are much better offensively than I anticipated, which if I were a Cowboys fan,

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would make this trade that much harder to swallow. Where I under.. Listen, I understand Philly is undefeated in the Super Bowl champs and looks great. I don't know if looks great is the right word. But they played a really tough schedule and they're undefeated.

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But other than that, if you're the Cowboys, you're like, man, with this offense. Do we think we could stare down the Rams or the Bucks in a playoff game like you know what I mean offense for offense. Yes, but not with the defense

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the way it is, but also when Terry made that trade and granted I'm a Brian Schottenheimer fan. I'm sure he had some reservations or concerns as to how well this was going to go with a rookie head coach who's also should

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have talked to you.

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You believed. Yeah, so I'm sure that played into it as well. And now that they're doing as well as they are, in retrospect it may not look as attractive.

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Head to the Meadowlands. The Chargers temporarily blinded by Jackson Dart's aura. As the rookie wins his debut in the Giants defense, finally looked frisky coach. Herbert threw two picks barely got over 200 yards. Nick I'll start with you

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did we crown the Chargers too early? Royal we maybe. I mean folks that just were convinced that a down-to-the-wire win against the Broncos, you know, a good, solid all around win against the Chiefs in Brazil and beating the Raiders, which the Raiders are having some struggles even though I still, Ash and Gente, good game, still believe, was enough to make the Chargers not the

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Chargers anymore. So, crazy to me. And I don't know what Brew's ballot is going to look like. I don't know what Parkins Peek is gonna look like. I do know this, Justin Herbert, those were an awesome first two games, buddy.

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I know that. And we can, I mean, this is what it is. So we're in awesome first two games. Like really great first two games, Justin. I think they were impressive. Since then, that's not very good.

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And what was bizarre to me, Coach, was the thing I text you, which is their rookie running back, Omarion Hampton, had 12 carries for 130 yards in a game that was nip and tuck against a rookie quarterback. It's Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman, but they, you know what I mean?

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They listen, when you have Peyton Manning 2.0, I guess you just got to throw the ball around the field and now all of a sudden they're banged up and they gave a game away they shouldn't and the huge lead on the Chiefs is down to a game.

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That's concerning to me if I'm them. I don't think we crowned him as a contender too early. I think they're legit. Obviously, yesterday was a bad game. I think Harbaugh is great. And so, I think we look what he's done in the NFL. I don't think they're going to be the same old Chargers that under Brandon Staley as they will be under Harbaugh. But I coach..

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It seems like some coaches have trouble getting that balance. Because last year they ran to the point where it's like, man, they should let Herbert throw a little more. And now this year, they're throwing it so much. And you say, well, they get a little more of a run game. So I don't understand why these coaches can't get more of a

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balance there.

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Remember last year, the year before they got there, Herbert had good production, but he had a bunch of turnovers. Last year, he only had the three turnovers during the regular season, and they did control things pretty dramatically. And I imagine they thought that similar to Josh Allen, he had gotten over that turnover hump and now we're four games into it.

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He's got three turnovers already this season, which matches his total last year. And as we've talked about, as you go through this first part of the season, there's who you want to be, and then there's the reality of who you have to be. And the good coaches figure out who you have to be. And especially with the Chargers situation, they've lost two offensive tackles. So to put him back there, dropping back to pass that many times with a really good running back,

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a really good young running back and putting all that pressure on backup offensive tackles, yeah, I think that maybe they got a little bit lost in the game plan and where Herbert's progression was. I would imagine they'll recalibrate and we'll see

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something different. Giants pressured Herbert on 48% of his drops.

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Giants defense coach back, Abdul Carter. Well, you know, they got a little shot in the arm with the new quarterback. Well, you know, they got a little shot in the arm with the new quarterback. Hopefully this can be a trend.

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