
PWK – PERNAH JADI KAKA KELAS SUAMINYA ENZY, GOFAR TAU SEMUA KEBANGORANNYA MOLEN KASETRA
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I think the type of guy who is a bully is like Molan Gan
Very very
Bastard
Bro
But this one is a bit of a bully Usually in movies, like Want to marry me Usually like
I want to
This is when he's like Want to marry me
I'm like
Laugh alone
I'm like Ouch I laughed so hard My approach to my kids is different If my kid is wearing a mountain top I will push her I was like... I want to join a demo
On the tree There's a love that you make me feel When I feel it in my heart Oh, how beautiful MC! Suddenly, there's a song like this There's a love like this I was 5 years old, Sir When the song was released I was in high school I'm back with a new song! Ada Cinta Bening! Ada Cinta!
I was 5 years old, Pai.
When I was in high school. I was in high school.
It's obvious.
You were close.
Don't get me wrong. I was in your class.
I know.
Molen must have a lot of stories about me.
Of course. LOL Yes, strategy. He only joined the mosque. Oh, he only joined the mosque? Yes, only for a week. Oh, maybe the mosque in the third tier is more fun than the mosque in the fourth tier. So, he saw me, the first time he knew me, he said, I was in all the schools.
Is this true, Sir?
So, the student orientation period is the introduction of the school, right? I was present in all the schools and became the expert.
Why? and become a pro basketball, basketball I have what else?
no, I just want to show off
oh yeah, that's for sure
self-defense school, is there a self-defense school?
there is, but I'm like guys, I'm the one who's the best
even though I don't know I've been there
is there a pick me spirit?
yes, there is
I want to see the classmate, like, wow, classmate, you're crazy, you're already all
crazy, crazy, that's a girl, that's a girl, you're like, who's that brother, who's that brother,
when is the dog more?
So handsome, that's the one, well, it's more accurate when he works at Trex Oh, that's just you guys were really friends?
Yes
Oh, I thought since you were in high school, you were in a trio Yes, but we didn't have time to talk, we didn't play What about Renda? Was she in your group or under you? Renda was in my group Still under you?
With Mario, Wi Chaksono
Oh, he was in Rio's group?
Yes
Renda was in Rio's group? Oh, he's a rival of Rio? Yeah Oh, they're a rival of Rio? A rival of Rio
Hmm, okay
Yeah, he's in class 1, they're in class 1, I'm in class 3
Okay, wanko, wanko
Wanko
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Your husband, Mollen, every time there's a funny episode, he's like, damn, it's Green Boyz
Yeah, that's true I'm So, I often come to visit. So, my bangor is... Of course, people will know. Even so, it's the opposite.
That's right.
How long have you been married to Molen?
2 and a half years. I got married in May 2023.
Yes.
I talked to you last time, it was pandemic. Do you remember the podcast?
Wow, this is a fun fact. I and Enzi... once made a podcast on his channel.
I was a guest.
Oh, that channel. Yes, that's right.
This is a fun fact. Maybe people don't know everything. I once talked to Enzi. We talked about something.
We made something.
We made something. We made something. Why? We're making something.
We're making something.
We're making something. We're making something.
We're revising.
Enzi has a podcast.
Yes, that's right.
On my YouTube channel. Story of story.
But it's not there anymore.
At your manager's house.
Yes, that's right.
Who? Mas Fava. Masih mas Fava? Masih. Masih mas Fava. Nah, di rumah si Fava. Seth, udah tayang nih. Bat, bat, bat, bat, bat, bat, bat.
Wah, ini explicit sekali. Pembahasan tuh sangat-sangat explicit sekali. Tiba-tiba badai menerjang gue.
Iya bener banget.
Iya ga?
Iya lagi.
Badai menerjang gue. I think my management contacted Vava. Don't air it. And it's not aired.
Until now, it's not aired. Should I air it?
At that time, it's not aired. I'll air it again.
No, please.
That's an explicit speech.
That's so exciting.
That's an explicit speech.
We still can't imagine that it will happen.
Because we don't know what we will do next year. That's why. What will happen. There will be an incident like that, Pak. Because we don't know what we will do next year. I also feel like... That's why I said... We are judged by the past... It's unfair.
Because sometimes we... Not sometimes, we are still stupid. Yes, right. I saw my first tweet in early 2009.
What the hell is this?
What did you say?
It's not clear. You're cheating on me.
What the hell is this?
But you're still like that.
Yeah, I am.
But I'm more like a ghost.
You're more like a ghost.
I was like, you're so weird. I'm the same. I tweet randomly. The last time I tweeted when I got married, it was quite viral. I said, if I had a boyfriend, I wouldn't say, suddenly, let's get married.
That was in 2021, if I'm not mistaken. But it happened. I got married without saying anything. So, it's like, it's a prayer. I think he has a problem with Twitter.
He's talking about it.
Do you still play it?
I... Sometimes when I'm scrolling, it's hot, the air is hot.
Really, really, really hot.
It's getting hotter.
I've deactivated it. Oh, you have?
Maybe 5 months ago.
I've deactivated it. I think I'll follow the path.
Because I think when I saw the content, it's like this. Maybe it has changed. Maybe I'm the one who cannot follow this change. So, I'm like, instead of being a lot of mudarot,
Oh wow, mudarot, the language is already mudarot.
Better not.
It's better if we take care of ourselves, we are the ones who avoid uncomfortable feelings. Instead of asking people or forcing people to change, you should be like, what are you doing? I'm tired. I should be the one who stops. Let them. Let them. Let's just be zen.
I also rarely open Twitter because of that. Because it's been a long time. It's so hot, especially now. There are so many issues. So, I'm like, opening Twitter is not fun. But I get the news that is quite exciting.
So I just play Instagram. TikTok, I play TikTok once. But also like, I'm more into seeing what's interesting on TikTok. It's fast, right? Short videos. But I play more on Instagram now.
Yes, it's the same. More Instagram, TikTok.
You don't do YouTube anymore?
YouTube is actually available anymore. It was filled with stories during the pandemic. When YouTube made a story of story. And now it's not available anymore. Because in 2022, I was quite... I think it was in 2022.
And in 2023, I had prepared for the wedding. And I had to move. It was quite tiring. Because I made it private. So, when I went to DC, it was quite tiring because I was doing it privately so after that I went to DC I didn't have any YouTube
and suddenly, you were in trouble
suddenly, your friends must have known about your gossip they must have known
Molen and Enzi, when? as far as I know, Enzi was with this guy
with whom? I don't know
friends too
But the first time I met Mollen, the person I asked about Mollen was you.
You must have forgotten.
I was doing a podcast at your place. And I asked, Farouk, do you know Mollen? And you were like, what?
You know her?
And we had a conversation. You mentioned it in the podcast. If you're in Bukit Nafas, would you like to? And I was like, would you? It was not a new acquaintance. She DMed me via DM.
What was the first DM?
Hi, I'm Mollen. Hi, Enzi, I'm Mollen. Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Mollen. Hi, Enzi, I'm Mollen. Greetings. Actually, we were introduced by Uti.
Uti Bunjis.
We were forced to follow each other. Mollen asked me to follow her. We followed each other for a week. Then, she DMed me. I replied, Hi Mollen. I was thinking how to introduce her to people in America.
Then, we talked.
How many times? Since we got married, we met only three times.
PDKT? Yes, PDKT. I mean, PDKT is by chat. So, it's a acquaintance. And then we talked for a month. Chat, everything. On the phone. But we never met him. After that, I was like, if I never met him. After that, I was like,
if I never met him, and we just talked, he was going to come back to Jakarta in 2024. It was still a pandemic. I didn't have the thought to go to the US. It's so far.
So, I was like, it won't work. I just let it go. I didn't respond anymore. I mean, I told him, but... Oh, you had a chance to not be so close? Yeah, so after a month of intense conversation, I was like, it's really fun to talk to Molon, right?
I mean, it's fun, like a friend. Then I said, I don't think I can talk to him every day, intense like this, because I was being approached by other guy at that time. So, there was someone who introduced me. I mean, there was someone who wanted to approach me.
Wow, there was someone who wanted to approach you.
It's hard. There must be a guy who came to the wedding.
There must be a guy.
I was shocked.
What was his reaction? We were on video call. He was a little shocked. Maybe he was like, Mom. Because I was very sure that, yes, I was interested. I mean, talking to you is fun. Maybe if we meet in Jakarta, and it's suitable, we can meet directly, maybe it can work.
But we don't know, I mean, it's nice to chat, on the phone, if we can meet directly, it's different, it's okay. Then I said I wanted to get close to other people, but I couldn't share with them. So, I wanted to try to be with this person. So, because they know each other, I told them. I mean, this person. And then he said, oh, that person is really nice. I mean, it's okay.
I know him well. Then I finally got close to that person. Then, it turned out that my first time was not suitable with the other. It was quite long, like a few months. Then, I talked to another friend of mine in America.
How did you talk to him?
It's been a long time.
It's like a month. I know him since January. Like in July or early August, his mom likes to cook delicious dendeng, kandang, and so on. And then, it was still a pandemic, still COVID-19. And then, I contacted her mom. Because my mom wanted to eat dendeng.
So, once in January, she sent me a message, like, please order again. I replied, Mollen's mom. Like, hello, auntie, I want to order dendeng again. Did you already met your mom? No, I just read her message. She ordered dendeng. So, her mom likes...
Have you ever met your mom?
No, no. So, she likes to open PO dendeng. Her mom. She likes to cook suddenly. Then, her friends sold it. Usually, when we just met, she was given the jampe-jampe through food. So, that happened in January, when I talked to her.
When I was in July, my mom was like, I want to order again, I'll paint. I didn't paint Mollen, I painted her mom. Like, auntie wants to order food, usually you want to buy food, right? Then my auntie was like, sorry, Enzi, auntie is in Covid.
I'm in the hospital. And I was like, wow, even at the hospital, I know that my mom is already old. My mom is Mollen. And then, I finally answered Mollen. I chatted with Mollen. I chatted with your mom yesterday. Your mom is sick.
COVID and all that. How are you? Because when we talked for a month, she was quite thoughtful with her parents who are already old here. It's far. And then COVID. He left there in 2020 when COVID. So, he was just worried.
Like, what if my parents are sick, I can't go back, etc. Finally, I was aware, I chatted. Then, he finally told me. We never talked for 5 months. Then, we started to talk again. But, it was just that.
We talked because his mom was sick. We stopped talking. And then in August, I was sent by my husband to New York. The first job in 2021. And then I contacted Molan again. I said, I want to go to New York with Candik, with Reza Candika.
We're friends, right? And then I was like, you're in DC, you can come to New York to visit me. We've never met in person. This is really a friendship, right? Not like a close friendship, or something like that. I was thinking, while I was in America, I wanted to meet Molon.
We've never met in person. Plus, there's Chandika, who's a friend. Why not? Why not? Why not? Then he was like, when is it? When is it? I went there for almost two days. I mean, just for a Tiktok. Then he came and met me.
Oh, this is your mall. It turns out that the contents are also friends. There are Shapa, Ayla, Dimitri, all kinds of people. We got to know each other. We talked, we walked. It's just normal, to Vegas.
Driving.
I really want to go on a road trip there.
It's fun, the place is fun. It's really fun.
Driving alone.
Driving alone, it's my first time driving on the left. I really like to drive. The road is big. Om! Yeah! What's up? The song was so good, I made a reel and sang it.
Om!
It was so good.
I made that and then I went to Vegas with Feby. Because I wanted to go to Antelope and stuff. Molan started chatting with people. After we met, he was like, she's pretty. My palette is starting to act up.
It's like you're thinking.
I think the type who's a bully is like Molan.
Very, very, very, bro.
But this one is a little less bully.
That's why when I said,
NC and Molan, he's so typical.
You're like him, as long as you don't talk. Then he chatted, and I was just like, I mean, I was lazy to chat or something, I said, if you want to come here, we haven't really talked. To Vegas, I mean, to Vegas, then I want to go to LA again, right? Road trip again.
Do you have a mood to...
You're like, can I?
It's funny. I haven't been there, but I'm like... Talking is comfortable, right? So when he chats again, I know for sure... Meet in New York, right? I'm sure brush my hair.
Even though it's not moving. Then, he was like, from DC to Vegas, it's 6-7 hours flight. It's far. So, I thought he wouldn't come. I didn't know he came. Suddenly, he flew from DC to Vegas.
Then, I was like, Feb, do you want to hang out with me? And he was like, do you like it? I was like, yes, I do. But I didn't think about dating or anything. I was so tired of LDR Indonesia, America.
And then he came. And I saw his effort. And we talked to Febby. We talked about how we would do it. We went on a road trip to go to LA. We were talking about what to do in LA. The next day, he came back to DC.
Before he came back to DC, he said, Do you want to try to be serious? Talk more intense and exclusive. He said in English, I can't repeat it. I understand, but I can't repeat it.
What did you answer?
I thought, it's September, February 2022, I will go to New York again. Because I bought a ticket to John Mayer before I met Molan. So, I was like, it's okay, I talked to him, I got to know him. Because I will go to America for a month in 6 months. So, it will take longer to meet him. So, I said yes. Because I was going to America for a month in 6 months. So, it would take longer to meet him.
I said yes. Because I didn't want to be friends with anyone. So, we talked for 6 months. We met again in 2022. Then, we were in LDR for 6 months. We met again in September 2022. I was proposed.
So, we met. The first thing that happened... What happened? So, we met for the first time. How was it? He said it was exclusive. I explained that there's no one like, Do you want to be my girlfriend? No. He's a bit of a bully. He's like that.
He said I love you, I was so touched. We love each other. He's not like that. Love is so meaningful in the eyes of this bully. Then, I met again in 2022, I went to America twice.
The first time I watched John Mayer, and the second time he proposed to me in New York. In 2023, he came to Jakarta, got married. So, after that, I got married. Two weeks later, I went to DC. I was like this in DC. I said, I'm pretty confident, I got married and met him three times.
I said that.
I hope he's a good person.
I left my career in America and Indonesia.
Yeah, that's right.
You decided to make a commitment. I have a lot of questions. Because I rarely meet Molen. It's been a long time since I updated. Is it like a bully or like Indonesia? Indonesia is like talking.
We want to get married, that's it. If it's a bully, suddenly, zeng. How is it?
So, before I went to America in September 2022, he had already said that he wanted to bring his relationship to a more serious level. He said that. He was already old, I was told that he was 39 years old. So he was like, do you want to go to a more serious level? Then I was like, yes, I want to.
I'll just try it. We will meet again in a few months, two months. Just that. We were supposed to meet again in a few months. But it was just a meeting in New York. In DUMBO, Brooklyn Bridge.
He was like, no.
He was speaking in English, of course. He was giving me a kiss.
He was like, I want to, let's go.
Just the two of you?
Just the two of us. He already had a concept. There was a photographer. Actually, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, because I didn't know if I would go to New York again in 2023 or not. So, I said, let's take photos like a pre-wed.
So, even if, even if I thought it wouldn't happen, it's important to have photos. Even if it happens, it's fun to be in front of the pre-wed in New York. That's right. I've never been to New York. I've never been there. I was paid by the brand.
At the same time. At the same time.
At the same time. I'm a realistic person. I said, he took private photos. People would know I'm going to propose. I said, no private photos. We just took photos. But it's cute.
Like couple photos. I told him. So, my friend took photos. He promised my friend to record but it's cute, like a couple's photo I said that so there was already a friend of mine who took a picture it turns out he had a promise with this friend to record it take a picture when I want to propose my hands were shaking
really like shaking
I was like, why?
laughing, really funny, not like
people are proposed, right?
damn
touched
what do you mean?
I can't
usually in movies, people will be like, I want to marry you. I want to. But when he said he wanted to marry me, I was like...
I laughed out loud. I was like, what are you doing? Can I stop? Can you stop laughing? Your hand was still shaking, can you stop laughing? Or I'll continue my words
He was like, okay, continue It's so gross
I laugh when I'm salting Okay
The romantic moments when you laugh are so annoying
That's why Now, we're 11-12 years old, we're still joking
Yes, yes Imagine if you're in 11th or 12th grade, we're being joked around Yeah, yeah
Imagine you're like that, you must be so embarrassed Sometimes, being formal makes me feel like I can't do it
It's so ugly, like, so disgusting Like, so disgusting
And the guys there, when they see that, they're like, oh, so sad I'm like, yeah, no So I don't focus on the story, I focused on the surroundings. I don't like being the center of attention. I was like, I'm shy, I'm shy, wake up, wake up.
You're showing off.
I'm showing off.
You put in the ring. Where did you find the ring? The one with the same hole?
He bought it, he gave it to his brother. And then, oh my God, this is a fun fact. I've never told this in any other podcast. flight to US in September 2022, she said, my mom wants to give me something. Can I give it to you in your suitcase? I said, sure, I feel sorry for her. She hasn't seen her son for a long time. Maybe she wants to bring something. There's a box, it's already wrapped.
I brought the box to her suitcase. Until I met her in New York, I gave her, this is your mom's gift It turns out, the wedding ring I brought it from Jakarta It's a box full of rings
I asked my brother to buy it for his wife
Where did you get it from?
From a big store, of course
He didn't ask your family to buy it for you?
He did, he asked my brother to help him with everything But at that time, I was like, if I want to go to NYFW, I should slim down my body My fingers are getting smaller So yeah, I still got bigger
So, the engagement ring is too big?
Yeah, because I'm following my brother's size, so he wouldn't understand It's different But yeah, I still appreciate it. I was so funny. I was like, I'm the one who brought you to Jakarta. You can buy it at the gold shop here.
I said that.
There's no such thing as a diamond shop here.
I said that.
I didn't understand. I told my brother to find it. It's funny.
And from there, you broke from your career?
Yes. So, we immediately prepare for the wedding. And I was like, there's a bit of a mess. I mean, this is a new phase of life. Which is really different. I was thinking, can I be a wife? And as a diplomat's wife, I will also join the organization.
She too, the women of MDWP. You're a pro? Yes, of course.
You have to join?
Yes, I'm independent. I do my own makeup. I don't have to do anything. I'm independent, I can't see what's wrong with my hair. Like 17 years old, it's so exciting. So, I'm ready.
There are some jobs that I have to limit. So, I can't explore too much. What are the restrictions? For example, I'm shooting a movie. So, I can't do anything. Because I'm taking care of my husband's name.
Because we don't know if he will be a public officer or not. So, there's a limit. But on the other hand, I think... I don't know, I'm just sure about Mollen. Like, if you ask me, he's the one, I don't know. Like, how come...
The definition of he's the one, I don't understand.
I don't have it. But I think I can be his friend until I'm old. Like, we can be a life partner. I think I'm good at communicating with him. He understands my language. Sometimes I can't express my feelings when I'm angry. He understands. He's calmer.
Because I'm not a calm person.
You're a bit of a flirt. A flirt.
He's calmer.
You know?
He understands. He's more calm, I think. Do you understand? He understands.
He understands. So, I feel like I'm ready to start a new life with him. I used to say that I really want to travel around the world. Or feel like living abroad. Somehow, when I met him and his job as a diplomat, I was like, what is this?
His job will also be... Moving. His job will be moved. So, I just suggested it. I wanted to try. Somehow I was sure. So, I went there.
How long did you stay there? A year?
A year. More or less 11 months.
You broke from the Tonight Show, right?
I broke from the Tonight Show. I thought, it's just for a while. I had a job in Paris. I don't know, the foreign aura made me feel like a foreigner. When I came back here, I felt like a normal person again. But it's true, I'm a pomeranian, I don't fade.
The weather is different.
The weather is good.
The photo in the sky, it looks like the sky.
But the sky is different.
My camera is good, right? It in the sky, it looks like the sky. Why is the sky different? My camera is good, right?
The sky, it turns out. I've been working since 2010. So, the moment break is the moment I get to know myself. So, it's like adapting to a new life as a wife. But I also get to know myself. Because all this time I've been busy working for my family.
Until sometimes I don't have time to rest. I don't have time for myself. I don't work there. I can cook. I learn to cook. I like to cook. But I'm lazy because of my needs. Everything is easier here.
Just buy it. It's better, by the way. But there, I don't want to cook. I'm so diligent in cooking. Then I ran a half marathon.
Wow, that's great.
Pernah, who is 10 kg, was about to cry. Like, why did you run? It's a marathon. This is a half marathon, 22 kg. I was like, I can do it. So, you unlocked a lot of things.
I unlocked a lot of things unlocked? A lot of things I unlocked. And I was like, I wanted to work. I'm not a very clingy person. So, when he's busy working, I go to the park, read books. What we do in the movies, we do it like, we want to go to the park, ah, picnic, read books.
When I read books, I laugh. Maybe people say, it's so exciting. So, many of them, I mean, I enjoyed my loneliness. Because I don't have friends, right? There are friends who are in KBRI too, or my school friends too. So, I took a course, like an English course for 3 months.
But, my friends are all here. So, I had more moments alone there. And I really enjoyed it. And it made my relationship with Molly stronger. Because after we got married, we were together in another country. Facing everything alone.
Then I lost my job. So, I was more focused to know her character. And vice versa. What you finally know yourself what you are like. It turns out that I like slow living. I think I'm too used to the fast pace.
With Jakarta life, and I keep working. I like to work. I think I like to work. I like activities. It turns out that I can enjoy doing things. Slow living is very comfortable for me. Living in DC is quiet, right?
Compared to New York.
In LA.
In LA. In DC, it's very quiet. Because people there are usually... either they are a lawyer or a World Bank. It's like that. Government.
District. Government. So, or a bank. It's like that. Government. District. Government.
So, it's quiet. I don't know, I enjoy it. And I'm more aware that I can live alone. I don't have to be with my friends, but I can. I mean, the relationship is better. I know who my friends are checking me.
And through video call, we can still keep in touch. Even though we're far apart. Your close friends will still be your close friends. Even though you haven't met for months or years.
That's a new knowledge. Learn to cook. And you cook often.
Yes, and exercise, be diligent, live a healthy life. If we want to sleep here, we can work until healthy. Yeah. We can sleep here until the morning. Asleep, we haven't had time. And then...
When we wake up, we're gone again.
Yeah, so it's exciting.
What kind of food did you cook there?
So many.
Your cooking.
I'm good at cooking this. I'm good at cooking rawon. Right? Where? I tried the assistant. Rawon, I tried it with my assistant. Rawon. It's good. I also cook soto, chicken pecel, Indonesian food. I love Indonesian food. So I cook a lot of things.
I also make tongseng.
You can?
Yes.
Wow, you learned it all there?
Yes. Wow. I watched it on YouTube.
How to make it. But is it good?
For God's sake say it's good? He said it's good for God's sake. Marriage is only for 2 months, my friends. If he said it's not good, then our life is over. Molon gained 6 kg in a year. Because you cooked? We cooked a lot. We didn't know the measure.
I cooked a lot. At home, I was like, eat, honey. There's a lot of food I can't just push it
so when I want to eat, I almost forgot to offer you do you want to eat or drink?
can I really eat?
yes, you can, noodles or coffee or what drink? what coffee? coffee is okay black coffee or what? milk?
milk coffee is okay
noodles, we'll do it later
I'm so focused, I don't talk when we eat
I almost forgot to offer
milk coffee this one is the cocoa one oh so you can eat while eating not noodles, just eggs
is there a box?
I thought you got the meatballs
Eh? That's great
I thought you got the pork
I thought you got the pork
But he's okay He came to the opening He came, I support you Thank you Zia
Molan, he couldn at that time Mollen couldn't He came too?
He came at night He made a promise to Mollen
Mollen finally came You guys were so busy, for sure Opening, all your friends came We became LC Yeah, we were crazy But it's crazy
I First time drove in America, because it was just an accident. My friend was so sleepy, he couldn't sleep, jet lag, etc. Until we were there, if you rent a car, it's really easy.
Easy and cheap.
Cheap, easy and cheap.
And our sim is valid. Yes, it can be true. Our sim is working yes, it can
even though it's not an international sim
it's still working
my friend and I who usually drive when he's really sleepy
he walks like this what's wrong with me? I can't drive I'm driving
I'm driving for the first time left it's like Oscar, It's pretty tense, right? Tense, so when crossing the intersection Yes, that's the hardest I just found out that if I want to turns out there's a way to wait. Wow. Right.
And if there's a red light from there or from here, like he's green, it's time for us to walk, but we want to hit him from there.
I'm using Google Maps now. I'm going to our Airbnb in LA. But our Airbnb is in LA, at the end of the street. I was going home. Suddenly, there was a truck. And then?
When I was driving, I was like, I was in Mexico, I was like this.
Yes, yes.
Three people.
Yes, that's right. I was like, is this a mafia or what?
I didn't dare to go.
I was like this. I'm not gonna be able to wait for an hour In the back, there's a car
What about the other cars?
There's a car There's an American guy
So he's like, let him do it
His friend! So I'm waiting there My friend is sleeping It's the evening They're talking So I was waiting there, my friend was sleeping Oh my god, it was the afternoon
They were talking, talking And they looked at me like this They were close, and they were talking again
What's wrong with me?
They must have thought you were Mexican
It was an hour, Zee
I was so nervous, what's wrong with me? Because as far as I know The gun regulation regulation is still...
True, true. I was so scared when I was in DC. I had a scary experience because of that. I mean, shooting and other things, guns are also scary. Criminals there.
But it's so easy to buy there, right?
Yeah, I don't know how, but it's scary. There was a moment when I was with Molon and Homeless was also a bit... Because there was drugs and other things. So, there was a moment when I was walking with Molon. It was in the afternoon. And I was like...
Molon said this. Suddenly, Molon said, we cross the left and right. I was like, why? We cross the left and right. He just said that. What is that? We cross our left and right. He just said that. What's wrong? Smart.
What's wrong? We cross our left and right now. He left me so fast. I was like, what's wrong? I was so confused. It's not clear.
The girl behind us was holding a knife.
Seriously?
Yes, she was. I mean, it's like...
But there are so many of them.
I don't know why she's like that. She's weird. She talks to herself, but her hand is holding a knife. If she suddenly... What are we supposed to say? She doesn't realize that she's like that.
So we have to run away. This woman... Her heart is out. We have to wait for her to cross the street Molan said, there's a woman holding a knife I looked at her, and she was like, Ma!
She crossed the street without any weapons In a place that she shouldn't cross I was like, I'm already next to her She really was holding a knife? Yes, she was holding a knife I asked Molan, is she really holding a knife? I he was really holding a knife I asked him, did he really hold a knife?
He was walking around And then he suddenly sneezed Like, hello? I was like, I don't dare to go out alone at night The first time I went to LA And the first time I went to New York
I was a bit shocked In New York, people ask for cigarettes like they're asking for a cigarette yes, it's really bad
they give it to you?
yes and I can't refuse, I just take it
yes for example, I put a cigarette in a trash can for smoking in front of a building suddenly, a person walks by and he takes my cigarette like this that's my cigarette, right?
I said, give it to me
just be angry
and one of them is in my pocket I was in the front, and then I was like, oh, two! What the hell is this? Luckily, you didn't take two, you were given a bag, and the rest was taken.
One by one.
How is this?
I was being chased by people. I didn't understand the language of the cellphone. This is crazy. I said, it's scary.
The first time I went to New York, I was panicked, scared. or under substance or whatever, those people can really make us laugh in front of our face. At first, I was running away. I was like, I'm done. But, I got used to it. If they're like that, just look at them. Don't feel...
I mean, if I don't look like a tourist or a visitor, I'll just look at them. Or if they're a bit abnormal, don't look at his eyes. Because I was followed by a guy in DC. Because it was so quiet, I was about to do pilates.
I was followed, I felt like, why am I being followed? But the street was so quiet. Then I asked, yes, I was really followed. This guy was looking at me, right? Then African American. Then I was dead. I it, right? Then, African American, like that. Then, I was dead. What should I do?
I ran into a gym. Not my gym, but someone else's gym. I ran, he ran. So, I went to the gym. He couldn't get in. Then, I told someone,
I have someone following me. Then, I was like, you go in here first. Don't be scary. Did he follow you in? No, he just waited in front.
Finally, I didn't go to the toilet, I went to the gym.
You're next to him like this.
Bro.
Ma'am, good evening, ma'am.
But there are a lot of incidents like that.
Because we don't know his culture. He scolded people, right? Rough language, maybe they're used to it. We don't know their culture. They are angry with people. They speak rough language.
Maybe they are used to it. Sometimes I use earphones. I always use earphones on the street. People use earphones too. But I don't turn on the music. I pass by gangsters.
There are always gangsters in the area. Near my house. I use earphones. I think, Zee, you are Indonesian, but people don't know you're Indonesian. So, you just stay cool, right?
So, I was like,
I felt local, even though my heart was beating like... I didn't turn on the song. He was calling me, right? What? Even though Armanto was holding it in. If I was shooting a movie, I can see the water on the left
I can do it, I'm a Tesla
It's easy
It's so scary
I'm like, I'm so scared
But it's scary
There are a lot of people African Americans, they're like
They're like that
They ask for money
You have a dollar, you have a dollar Then I'm like then I'm being scolded like that? it's so scary
if you're scared, I'm scared
oh right, the drink is ready
AI, AI
we're using AI
look, it's pretty
it's pretty
it's pretty, thank you Oh, that's nice. It's like electricity. Yeah, that's why. Thank you. It's fun to do tricks together.
Yeah, it's fun. Is he going back to DC now?
No.
He's done with his job. So, from 2020 to 2024, he's done. He'll's been here for 3 years. It should be 3 years later, like in 2027, he's already in the exchange rate that can be sent abroad.
Well, what if he goes to Bangladesh? Dhaka, the city of Dhaka, Bangladesh.
I... How? I'm afraid I'll say it wrong again on Twitter.
We'll see.
We'll see. But before marriage, there's a counseling. Counseling from the man's wife. Are you ready to marry a diplomat? You have to be ready to accompany him wherever he is. And I'm like... talking to him is a risk. He can only do it the right way.
He tries to be placed in a comfortable place for me. Or maybe we have a child.
You can't choose the city or the country.
I can't. Maybe he can give me two options. Or he can target the media city and the country. You can't. Maybe he can give two options. Like two options that he wants. Or he targets the media. According to his field. But in the end, it will be seen again. Which city or country is empty. According to the position that suits him.
And the risk is known from the beginning. It's known from the beginning. He has to support. I mean, if it to support them. If they are placed in Daka, but in faraway countries, like Antah Berantah, and then...
Kongo, for example.
Yes.
I want to cry.
I'm afraid to say this.
Let's say Europe, Pai.
Yes. Siberia.
Europe.
Yes, Europe.
Amsterdam, Den Haag.
Yes, Den Haag, Den Haag Den Haag, sure. It's good, it's good.
It's a bicycle there.
Let's go.
We're talking about different auras.
Our visits are easy. Yes, to the Netherlands, the Netherlands. Playing at our house, it's fun. The kids are so nice.
Yes.
I'm scared.
If you go to the Netherlands, it's okay, right?
It's okay, right? It's okay, right? No, if you're working, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Yes, that's why it's okay. I think this way, the creative industry, I mean, the entertainment industry, there is no age limit, in my opinion. Like Mrs. Kristen Hakim, crazy.
Oh yes, almost old too.
Even now, she's still working and my work is really good. And I'm a video editor. I'm still working.
Prano Karno?
Not that.
You're becoming a Wagup?
Yes, but I don't want to be a Wagup.
Me too.
Do you want to be a Wagup?
Yes.
There are still many others.
Yes.
I think it's okay to take a break for a while. And now it's the digital era. If I make a YouTube channel for my family, if there's something interesting, my activities there, I can do it. Or I can go back and forth.
I can go back and forth here. If I have a job, I won't close it. Because Molon still supports me. My priority now is my family. Not my job.
Like yesterday, you went to Paris, can you still do it from America?
Yes, I can.
What did you meet? The one who met you outside?
I met Kendall.
Kendall.
She's my idol. What was that event? That was one of the beauty brands.
Wow, great.
And you came back, and you chance to perform again, right? I thought I would leave in 2023, but I thought I wouldn't feel it in 2024. I thought I would be bored, but I came back, so I was safe. When we got home, the TV was gone.
You didn't have a chance to come back?
I didn't have a chance to come back, when When we were about to comeback, it was already...
...a mess, a mess, a mess.
I changed my name.
Oh, at that time, at Vindesh, the reunion.
Yes, yes, yes, there.
Yes, because there was no TV anymore, we made it at Vindesh.
It's really solid, right? Our fans are also pretty tough girls. The most militant. The militant, right? I was 5 years old, they were 10 or 11 years old. So, we hope that there will be no regrets. So, we made a special show. Thank you to our audience and others.
Because there is no TV, we made it in Vindes. Where else?
Now, they have their own show in Vindes.
What is it called?
TADA. TADA. Because we miss working together. It's hard to find someone who doesn't work together. So we decided to make a program called TADA. You're in a movie now.
You're in a movie.
Yakin Nikah Bratz.
Oh my God.
It's perfect.
It's perfect.
You're so confident about marriage.
You don't even have to think about it
What is confidence about marriage? What is it? So, actually the premise is a family, girls I'm the first child, this brother wants to be stepped on by his sister Who's your brother? No, I'm his sister I have a brother named Amandarik B Amandarik B. Amandarik B.
His sister was proposed by his girlfriend. And my mother, Erza Mariori, didn't allow her younger brother to step on her sister. People in the past believed that. Why did they believe that and why did they forbid it? Because my aunt in this movie
didn't get married because she was stepped on by my mother.
Oh, I see.
And in this family, my brother and I are always compared. There must be someone like that in the family. There must be someone who is outstanding, someone who is successful. My brother is a dream girl who is beautiful, has a good career, has a good partner, wants to get married young. I'm just a normal person. I worked in an agency and so on.
So, there was a peer pressure. What is it called? Because my family also demanded me to get married. I should get a better job. So, the conflict arose. I had a boyfriend for 3 years.
His name is Maxim. I coded my boyfriend. I wanted to get engaged. years. That's Maxim. Maxim. I coded my boyfriend like, how can I get him to propose to me? So that I can get married, and I won't lose to my brother. I'm not a bad guy.
Maxim is like a hard worker guy. He's a career-minded guy. When I was coding, and my boyfriend didn't realize it, I met my ex.
Who? Jordi, my ex. Who?
Jordi, my ex. I met Jordi. We dated since high school, 6 years. Suddenly, he disappeared. He ghosted me. It was an unfinished business.
When we met, he asked,
why did you ghost me?
He still does that. Even though it's been a long time, he still gives me explanations The relationship, the conflict, everything comes from there Who became your father? Tora Sudiro
Oh my god But he's really fun, he became a father
Really?
Yes So, I mean
I also had a fight with him from the beginning
I mean, you're have a mismatch from the beginning I mean, you and Katora are like...
Yeah, it's far, but still... At first, Katora is not like 50 years old He's still a boy, right? Like, we're still hanging out together And Katora is also a friend of Vincent Kadesta So when he met my father
He's like, you're so Katora You have so many roles that you can play as a dad And he came to me and said, how can I not be a jerk to you? And I was like, what?
Because you have a husband, a lover, a smiley face
I was scared
Oh, that's right
What did you do?
I was like, that's right, how? You have a lot of daughters, all of them are girls What did you do? I was like, yeah, that's right. I was like, how? You have a lot of daughters. They're all girls. How did you approach your daughters? My approach to my daughters is different.
If my daughter is wearing a skirt, I'll press her skirt. I'll be like, huh?
My skirt is pressed.
I don't think that's the approach. I think, you never talk to her. No, she must have talked to Mika. What should I do? Well, then, at that time, I was the family. Tora, Ersa Mayuri, and Amanda Rigby. We often talked. I have to hold it.
I have to hold it to not joke. Because Tora was teased by Tora.
Well, until the first shooting, the scene was at home. I was so happy to not make a joke. Because Tora was always making a joke.
And the first shooting was at home. We were intense at home for 5 days. There were so many scenes. Because this film is about family. How this kid can learn to talk to his parents and so on. So, it was quite intense for 5 days. And it was so close. And there was a moment I asked my dad, because my character is so close to him.
So, the first kid is close to my dad, and the second kid is close to my mom. I was silent. I was like, I can handle it. He was shooting, and suddenly, he got hiccups. It was two days, guys. Not just 1 day.
He was like... Can I spoil my dad?
He was like...
He was like... But, in the end... Maybe because of that... I mean, the role of the director is also very important. He can make the shooting environment supported by his crewmates, and other cast. In the end, somehow we are very close as a family.
So, he always calls me brother. I call him father in that character. Then there is one scene where I asked my father, how to convince him to get married. Why did he want to marry his mother? Then, Tora told him, this is how you find a partner.
Don't look at this and that. He gave me some advice. It was a normal scene, a conversation between a son and a father. As normal as possible. It's normal for a girl to ask her father. But at that time, my little heart was hit.
Like, this is what I didn't get in 2023 when I was going to get married. Because when I got married, no one advised me like this from my father. Because I don't have a father, right? My father passed away, and so on. So, when the scene was coming out of the Torah, he told me, and when I finished the scene, my eyes were sparkling in that scene.
Actually, I shouldn't cry. But I was like, the ease of this character, also made the atmosphere become emotional. And when the scene was I called him as my dad. Thank you. And I cried.
This is my question in my little heart when I was about to get married. How can I make myself believe that this is the right guy. I don't have any picture of a guy like a father. Like a father, I don't know. Because I broke up with my father when I was 6 years old. So I don't have a father figure in my life.
Then suddenly it came out of your mouth, even though it's by script. But when it's picked, it feels different. So I felt like God gave me an answer from you. Thank you, brother. I said that. Then he cried. So it didn't touch. He cried, I was embarrassed too.
Like, I'm not crying, I'm just embarrassed I'm so embarrassed
I was like, thank you, he brought me to the car, and I was like, yes, it's the same, you guys are the same
Yes
I was so mad, I said thank you And then we hugged, and then we got closer Because he knew that inside, people always see me as a manly, cheerful, and all that. But actually, we're just human. We also have our side that we don't show to the public. Right.
The past problems, the past that we don't feel good about, we should face it ourselves or our closest people who know. Not everyone. I like the art when acting, like when you're acting in a movie, you release some emotions that you can't control. When you're playing the role that you're playing.
When you get those words from the Torah, you feel so relieved, right? I feel so relieved. That's why I love acting. Because every character that I play is destined to be in my life story. Because maybe it answers or releases the emotions that I said earlier. The questions that can't be answered in the real world. But it turns out to be answered by that character.
That's why how we internalize each character is also an interesting thing. I really think like that, it's crazy, I got the answer a year later.
Yeah, it's amateur.
Amateur. It's so funny.
But it's unique, the universe is unique. We don't know who we got the answer from. We got the knowledge from who. We got... Ancing, it turns out, like me, when I had a badai,
it turns out that the people who helped me are the first people I haven't contacted for a long time. The second one, I really hate him. I was really annoyed, but he helped me.
Oh my God.
We really didn't know.
Yeah, we didn't know.
It means that I can't hold negative energy. Negative energy should be like,
it's okay, nothing to lose to people. Right, I agree. For the sake of good, don't expect anything. I agree, that's what I've been doing all this time. I always think that we are good people. If someone is bad to us, it's your business.
You have to take responsibility for it. I'm fine with it. If the energy is not suitable for me, or the vision is not suitable, I choose to not be friends anymore, or not meet again. I mean, it's a different circle. But it doesn't mean I hate him or hate that person. Because I believe that if we are good, we will be found by good people. Every time we have a problem like before,
we know that people really care about us. Or just passing by. Or friends who just want to have fun. But when we're in trouble, they just leave. But, we can evaluate what we need in our lives. What kind of circle we want.
And it can't be wrong. If suddenly someone leaves us. Like, there's a friend of mine who I feel like doesn't fit with Angie.
He's fired.
It's okay. He has his own answer. I mean, he has his own reason. And I'm not a problem either. I might do the same thing without realizing it.
There's nothing wrong with people who are just for a moment.
There's nothing wrong. Orang yang cuma sekedar aja. Gak ada yang salah. Temen yang ketemu kayak gini, misalkan gini, Gue sama Gofar, gue respect lo sebagai temen gue. Gue menganggap lo udah temen baik gue. Karena lo juga temen baik Molan gitu. Kita ketemu, pasti kita seru. Pasti kita ngobrol.
Ada nih, off cam pun kita ngobrol. Kayak gini pasti ada gitu.
Tapi ya bukan berarti kayak... We chat everyday. We meet up. I'm with Molen. Molen, I just update... I told Molen, this is my friend. We just met once.
Just like an update that has been a long time. That's right. That's what makes me suitable with Molen. Because he values his friendship with people... just like I value my friends. We don't want to conflict with people. Maybe it's naive or very cliche.
People like that are often mistreated. Because we always think that people are kind. But they are not. There are some people who are evil. Yes, there are some people who are just taking advantage of others. Yes, we have to be more open.
And not too open with everyone. Because people don't need to know.
That's important. That's one of my lessons. Maybe when I was on a podcast, making YouTube or whatever,
I was so open, but it turns out I don't need it anymore, Far. You don't need it anymore, Far. I don't need it anymore. People don't like you, so they can attack you too.
Yes, they can.
You should be told by your friends Right Some people just on camera Oh, it turns out that I filter the students
Yes
That's it
The students come
At a time when it's really not expected We don't expect, especially like you
From the movie Yakinikah, suddenly there is an answer from outside From Tora Sudiro
Yes, I'm from a family that is quite... I mean, I only have a mother, I have a younger brother, one, 10 years older. We only live together, two girls. Our life is quite quiet. I mean, like on Eid, we don't feel like people. But it turns out I feel like...
Maybe Enzi from the age of 5 to 25, maybe it's like loneliness. Like, I want to be like people who gather their family on Eid. But it turns out, I just realized, no, I'm from elementary school. Even from elementary school, I have friends who are still friends with me from elementary school. I'm always loved by my friends. My friends are like family to me.
I got a new family in Tonight Show. I got a KS, I got a KDSTA, even my wedding witness is a KS. I feel that they really love me sincerely. They also love Molen, KST. They are so nice to me when I'm down, sick, and so on. My friends, Candix, Omar, Feby, Yuki, Mila, they were always there for me.
And that's the family that I couldn't get in real family. In this movie, I got the warmth from my family. From Mr. Hender, Tora, Mrs. Eca, and Yori, my mom, and Manda. So, every project brings something for me. And I'm so happy that this film can relate to many people. Because, outside of many people asking, am I ready or not to get married?
Or there are two choices? Or how do you make sure that this guy is the right one for you? When this guy is busy working, thinking about the future. But he doesn't give you the attention you need. You don't have to worry about that. So, I really got a lot of things.
And each character represents a lot of people. So, it's relatable. Because I think this movie is very human. There's no protagonist character. It's perfect for human. Or there's no antagonist. It's like, this is perfect for humans. Or there is no antagonist.
This is so human.
In my opinion, yes. Because every character must have a reason. My partner doesn't give romantic feeling. I don't give love from my partner, Maxim. But he chases his dream for my future too. Like, in this economy, he's a hard worker. But on the other hand, my ex-boyfriend, he loves me so much.
We're so happy, we get energy, and all. But he's not the type of hard worker who makes material.
Wow, the comparison is already started. This one is like this, this one is like this.
Yes. It's a conflict. If there's a problem, he can't talk, he'll get out. He'll run away. But there are a lot of people like that. A lot.
Broken home guys or guys who can't express good communication with their partner. There are a lot of them. You just have to choose what weakness you want to receive from your partner. For example, I'm with you, you must have a weakness, right? I can accept it or not. And vice versa. And in this film, it's explained about that too.
I totally agree. The more I get older, I believe that to find a partner is not about how perfect he is, but how much we want to accept his weakness.
Right. And it turns out that's the answer.
Yes, that's right. And in the film, it's like that. It's like that. Until there's a point where we have to finish ourselves first. We have to know ourselves. Because my character here is a people pleaser. Who always tries to please the people around me. Like, I'll follow what my parents want.
I'll follow my partner. So, he's like a template he's always making people happy. It turns out, that kind of attitude hurts other people that I don't realize. I want to make you happy, but I hurt Tony, for example. So, it's like, oh, I see. We can't be selfish. We can't be a people pleaser.
We have to be able to talk about what about what we want, what's uncomfortable with us. And the issue is you have to trust yourself first. Don't bring the issue to yourself, then you bring it to your partner. That makes your relationship unhealthy. Crazy, I'm crazy.
Crazy, crazy.
So this is all ages, Zee?
All ages, in my opinion. Fun. Yesterday, I watched Tora's 13th birthday. I think 13 years old plus. It's possible. Because this is so light.
Is it already airing?
It's airing on 9th October.
9th October, okay.
Something fresh. If you want to watch something light, fun, warm. This is also romcom, right? And I think the last rom Romcom era. And now you see Tora Sudiro as the father of Enzi.
Yes.
That's where you see it.
If you see him hugging me, and patting my head, at that moment, I feel like, I hope he won't be a jerk.
Give it up for Enzi. Now we have ST STMJ subscriber asking Mari to answer Oh yeah, there was one yesterday Mari Regal 17 What's the funniest thing from KDesta?
What is it? I think they're annoying
But, you know
The annoying thing from KDesta
I only have one
Aming crying Oh my What? Aming crying
Oh my god, Aming crying and being kissed is so funny
So funny!
And then Aming took it again
He's really crying I even repeated that video Because I saw your expression, your expression
I was about to cry Oh my god, this person is having a mental issue His friend is crying, he's been given tissues, he's been given a bath But, Desta, that's his absurd behavior Which sometimes makes the situation funny You know, you're annoying, but people laugh
You're angry, right?
Yes, Desta
You're crazy, people are here, Aming is eating while like The tears are here It's like the retina is in the eyes
There are a lot of absurd things from Desta
He's unique, a unique man
Okay, next, Raymond Light Zee, who is the most naughty, Desta or Gopar?
Because I met more people with Desta, so I think it's Desta.
I think it's Desta.
Maybe Gopher knows better, because there must be someone who is more closed than me.
I can say it's Desta.
You have more experience in terms of age.
Okay, next.
Let's go. Nuclear weapon. Is there any habit of Bang Mowlam that is still difficult for KNC to accept? He uses airpods when he sleeps. Using earphones.
He has to listen to music?
He has to listen to podcasts.
He's like Wanchoi.
He's like Wanchoi?
Yes. Sorry, I'm talking too loud.
Wanchoi has to listen to Rocky Gerung. This is a political debate
What is a political debate?
But it's more annoying
You should use earphones to sleep
You should put your phone here, loudspeaker
Oh my God
It's so loud, so if you go out of town, no one will want to talk to you
Oh my God, it's so annoying
And you should be frank And listen to political debates I swear, if he want to. He's so annoying. And he's loud. He has to be loud. He has to be loud.
And listen to the podcast, political debates.
I swear, he's so annoying when he's married. From the beginning, he knows what's missing.
He uses earphones.
He uses earphones, he has to listen to podcasts. Yes, foreign podcasts, friends. Like, this is wrong, foreign politics. Whatever it is, just listen to it. But there must be a sound. When we were in DC, there was a TV. So the TV had to be on. But it used a timer. And I had to be confused. I was like a light sleeper.
That's why you used... Oh, he used that.
In Jakarta, in the apartment, we couldn't put a TV in the room. So he used earphones. I was so annoyed. I was like, what is this? This is a photo of her next to my butt I was like, I heard that on a podcast
Because of the baby voice Yes, the baby voice Luckily, it's not here That's sad
Yes, okay, next Dendeng Balado 6044 Try to imitate Nadekan when she's a vampire
I swear, I've played GGS Ganteng-Ganteng Serigala
Yes, that's right when you became a vampire? I swear, I once played GGS Ganteng-ganteng Serigala, right?
Oh, yes, that's right.
What was the name of the kid?
Putih Abu-Abu
Yes, Putih Abu-Abu
This is so funny. Yesterday, when we were doing a demo of Rusuh, there was a video There was a person This Indonesian person, in my opinion,
is creative, right?
Creative. Creative ya? Creative, sometimes I like to say, you're too much, this is getting crazy, it's getting crowded, it's getting tense, yesterday suddenly there was a video in the middle of a riot, he was behind a tree, wearing a fake tooth, he was like, in the silence, na na na na na I posted it on my close friend, I was like like, this person as an alumni I was offended but I wanted to be mad but it was funny, I said that
as a vampire alumni, I was like, this person doesn't want to win but it was funny after that, I was scared suddenly, it appeared on my explore there was a face of me using a toothpick so there was a person who made a parody
like a parody of my video in the internet In the stage? Yes, in the stage Someone asked me, why are you a vampire? I said, because I was a vampire! At that moment, I wanted to join the demo
In the tree
Be a vampire
Yes, GGS, GGS
Ganteng-Ganteng Serigala I'm confused, why am I so viral in GGS? even though I only have 60 episodes and they have almost 1000 episodes
GGS has 1000 episodes?
I think it's almost 1000 episodes, 2 seasons I only have 60 episodes in the first episode and then I become a dust
hahahahahah
why? and that was in 2015 I was so tired, I was like a dust Why? And that was in 2015 10 years, 60 episodes, I was repeated I was like, please I was in a fashion show with Kendall Jenner
You got another tarik You got the potential, great Don't forget to watch Jelum Yakinikas on October 9th at the nearest cinema!
Enzy, thank you!
Thank you, sir!
May peace be upon you!
Of course! Thank you for everyone! See you at PWK! Thank you for everyone! See you at PWK!
See you, guys!
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