RATINHO JR (GOVERNADOR DO PARANÁ) (+MATHEUS CEARÁ) - Inteligência Ltda. Podcast #1614

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That's it. Now I'm going to welcome the guests here. First, I don't even know what my name is. Mateus Ceará, Ceará, Mateus... Whatever you want. Pinto Pequeno... Whatever you call him, whatever you know.

So it's Bonbonzinho. Bonbonzinho. That bed... Call me with that intimacy from that night we had at the side of the road on Campinas highway.

I remember my car was a wreck.

And you went to save me in front of a favela. Say hi to the people who don't know you. Hi, guys. I'm Matheus Serra, I'm a comedian, 41 years old, father of Eve, married to Bianca Campos, and I'm here as a co-host this afternoon with Vilela here at Inteligência Limitada,

talking to Ratinho Júnior.

Ratinho Júnior, it's the first time you're here, and when it's the first time I have to ask for a useless gift to put on the stage. So, for those who don't know you, say hi to the people here, and I want my gift, I'm interested. Thank you, Vilela. Good afternoon to everyone. Good afternoon, Matheus. Good afternoon to everyone who follows Inteligência Limitada. I have limited intelligence. It's a pleasure to be here with you. My name is Carlos Roberto Massa Jr.

More politically known, especially in my state, as Ratinho Jr. I'm the son of the host Ratinho, with great pride, Solange Massa, a brave Spanish bassist, married to Luciana, father of Yasmim, Alana and Carlinhos. Damn, you're good, huh? All with a note. All with notes.

All with notes. And the gift you brought us here? I didn't bring a useless gift, but I brought a souvenir, since you usually hang a lot of memories here.

I brought something that represents a lot to us Paranaenses, which is the Maraucária, which is the state's spi Which is a tree from the state.

Look how beautiful!

This is a mosaic, for you to leave here on your stage. To always remember Paraná. Araucaria has a unique shape, right Vilela? And it produces the pine. No, no, don't say anything else. Romer is an Araucaria specialist.

Romer, please, tell us everything you know about Araucaria. I'll put me on the no no no follow my snoggle home era specially scenario. I'll carry a home air Por favor file to do this a be so but I are a car Apac's a marvelous

Assertor my ass it was a

Latter on troncos. He and I think for you see I think it's a catafalque Yeah, but he might

Dapham you know if I Araucaria is never lost in the forest? I don't know.

Because it has a pine tree.

I just didn't hear you say that.

Thank you, Ratinho. Look how cool, you're going to get into the scenario here. It is considered a prehistoric tree, the Araucaria. And it produces the pine tree, which is very well known to us. And it's very tasty. And the pine tree only grows in female trees.

Only in female trees.

The female tree produces the pine tree. The male fertilizes the female tree, which produces... Let me help you.

I have to assemble it.

Tetris.

Tetris.

While he assembles it, I want to show you my Dutty glasses collection. There are many colors. There's going to be QR code on the screen and link in the description.

Is there blue?

Yes, there are all the colors.

Is it a gift for the guests?

Yes.

It looks good.

Let me see.

I liked this one.

Thank you so much. welcome, Ratinho.

Thank you.

And let's talk about a lot of things, right? The country is crazy, right?

Have you chosen?

Already.

This blue one?

Yeah, because when I get a gift from Dutty, it's Dutty Free, right? Yeah. Ask him to put it on. You've seen how today's live will be, right? A serious live. People are asking why I chose you as a co-host. You're not a guy known as a serious guy. You're a funny guy, right?

Man, I don't know why you did that either, but I was very happy with the invitation. Let's go, right? Especially with our friend Ratinho Jr. Do you know him? I know him. I met our friend Ratinho Jr. recently in Paraná.

I know him.

Matheus is a good friend of my father. My father likes him a lot.

Ratinho had the story of stealing his watch. What do you mean? Did you steal his watch? I didn't steal it. I went to a show in Curitiba. He went to watch the show. There's even a video on the internet. It's a show where I asked for a joke, he asked for a joke and when the show ended we went to dinner, we drank wine, I don't know what

and I have a custom of doing a business that when I have a special moment with the person I say like this man, let's eternalize this moment freezing what we have most important, most valuable in our life, which is your time your time is what you have most important, most valuable and me too. So, to freeze our time, let's use our time symbology, which is my watch and your watch.

I take my watch, you give me your watch, we lock our time in this moment and leave it eternalized. Ratinho looked at me and said, Wow, it was the most beautiful thing I've seen in a lifetime.

He grabbed the watch and gave it to me.

I was with Chili Beans, and his was R Ratin's watch.

Yours was R$135.00?

Yes, and then he took the watch, the other day he said, let me tell you something, it's the watch I had the most in the price,

it was my son who gave it to me. So he came with a little oil. No, and then in the end, he left the watch, I ended up reading it in the city I lived in, in the countryside of São Paulo, it caught fire in the nursing home, and I said, man, I'm going to help the nursing home, I went to the Ratinho show and read the watch. And it's the little rat, right, man?

Yeah.

I got there, I said, look, we're going to start, this watch, he told the story, he gave love, he said the watch was his son's, his son gave it to him as a gift. I asked him what the watch was, he said 5000. I said Ratinho, but the watch is worth 30k. I said now it's yours, when it was mine, it was worth 30k.

Makes sense, man, very good.

I recently went to Paraná and met... Paraná is very good to play shows, right? Man, it's awesome! I love playing shows. My biggest audience in Brazil is Paraná. And people complain, they say that Paraná is... Curitiba is closed, right? But they like comedy a lot. No, and it's a fair audience.

When the show is good, they laugh. The people who complain are the ones who don't make them laugh, right? Exactly. When people complain that the show was bad, it's because the audience doesn't laugh. Exactly. But in Paraná, for example, I'm going to record now, October 5th, at the Opera de Arama, a comedy special. I decided to record there because, man, it's my biggest audience in Brazil in Paraná.

Really?

Yes.

And then, man, when the invitation came, I said, I'm going to the biggest carnival, let's see what it is. I just think about what I'm going to say and what I'm going to ask. I was smart, I asked the people of Paraná to enter the question box. Whoever wants to ask the governor of Paraná, ask here, I'll ask him.

Look, look.

Good, good.

And you realize you're in Paraná when you start seeing beautiful people, right? There are beautiful men and woman there, right? Do you remember, Uncle? Oil Man, is there more?

Oil Man died, he died, he died.

What do you think of Oil Man's picture, man? He's a character there. Wow, in Curitiba, very well known there. He walked around the whole city in a suit and bicycle. And oil. And it could be a cold, but in Curitiba, a homeless cat also came out.

Yeah. Yeah, the cat beggar, who was the one who left on 24th street, on the square, where there's the dead end He was a beggar, but they found out that he was a blue-eyed cat beggar And they found out he was a cat beggar While he was looking for the pictures, he said, Ratinho, I want to know about your story How did you end up in politics? Where were you born and what did you want to be when you were a child? So, Vilela, it was like...

It's a matter of life. I grew up on the radio, right? I was born on the radio, practically. I was 5 years old and my father took me with him to work. I always liked to hang out with my father. I was always very close to him.

And we have a very beautiful friendship between us. He has three children, and I, being the oldest, maybe I should have a little more. And my father, we lived in Campo Largo, I'm from the countryside of Paraná, Jandai do Sul, a small town, today it's a medium-sized town, it has 25 thousand inhabitants. Look at the oil man there. Yeah, this poor guy, he was very well-off there, super nice. And notice that around him everyone was wearing sweatshirts. With 6 degrees he was walking in sweat.

And he was wearing oil. Oil was the thing that took the cold out of his body.

There was no bad weather for him.

And then, I was born in Jandaya. Those who were born in the north of Paraná are called red feet. Because there the land is very red, we even say purple land. And everyone has the red foot of the...

The little dog.

Yeah, I was born in Jandari do Sul. Then my father went to Curitiba, right when I was born, I was 4 years old, I was unemployed, and went to Curitiba. And I went with my mother right after, we were living a flat with my aunt, aunt Marcia We lived with her for about 2 years, until my dad could buy a house, rent a house And this aunt of mine lives with us until today, she's 93 years old and still lives with us She was the aunt that didn't want to get married, I think no one wanted to actually, and she stayed and started playing

And then my dad got a job at the radio station in Curitiba, which was a radio that was even in a basement, there was a Caio Bá radio on top, there is still a Caio Bá radio, Ouro Verde, which were two FM and the radio station, an AM radio and my father did the program from 5 to 7 if I'm not mistaken in the morning and I usually went with him to see him do radio, so I liked it, I was born in radio. It was for your own will. No, for my own will, I liked to hang out with him.

Yeah, because sometimes the father says, no, come with me.

No, no.

Then, when I was 12, when I was 13 years old, my father was in a very difficult moment in his life. He was about to break up, he was going to break up, he didn't have money to have a sonoplasty to have a break. He couldn't hire. I came in that situation, I liked radio, I was 13 years old, I started to learn sonoplasty and I became a radio host.

And I started to do sonoplasty. And you liked it? I loved it. I still do. Radio is a passion for those who have had the opportunity to work with radio. And I started working as a sonoplastist and then, at the age of 15, I started doing it at the right time. You would play the music at 5 and 2 and then you would play the vignette. And then I started going to the radio, I started doing news programs, all kinds of things, sports, gossip.

Give us the time. 14h28. Thank you.

The right time, the right time.

You see? The governor gives the right time. Repeat!

And then I started...

It's good, it's good.

7h57, 7h37, you got it.

Then I started going to the radio. And our life, my father's life, my family's life, when he was... He was doing a regional show, which was 1-9-0 Urgente, a police show. It's one of those that everyone is used to having on regional televisions. And he started to grow a lot in Paraná. He had a lot of audience. And he always believed in his potential.

He was always very perseverant, my father. And he used to say to us, to the clients, that he had to cross the Iguaçu River. Iguaçu is the river that divides Paraná from São Paulo. So he said, I have to cross the Iguaçu River, I have to cross São Paulo, I have to go to Rio de Janeiro, I have to go to São Paulo, I have to go to São Paulo. And he managed, with the Martinez family, who was the owner of the CNT at the time,

at 6pm, he rented the time. So he turned around, I remember a situation...

To get sponsors...

Yeah, doing things in a tight way, he was a normal guy. Then he managed to do it for half an hour and started to grow a lot. He started to bother Aqui Agora and Cidade Alerta. Record and SBT. Aqui Agora did 5 and he did 1. 1.5. But he was a very comfortable guy.

He was a good guy in the audience. Then it was a big explosion. In one year he jumped a leap, Record hired him and such. So our life changed from a normal family, debtor, to a family with a relatively good financial condition. Who paid the bills.

Yeah. And the radio calls you a lot to the community problem, right? It's the hole in the street that people call complaining, you charge the city hall, lack of health care, those things of the community. Then, a little bit of...

My conscience of citizen responsibility, even new, but with 18, 19 years old, I said, I think life was so good with us, I'm going to work in the public area to somehow pay it back. And then it went in. I elected myself as a state representative. A lot of the fruit of... not a lot, 99% of the fruit of the affection people had for my father.

But why this decision to go into politics?

Because I thought it was... like I said, the radio brings you closer to the population, the community, the day-to-day.

The problems, too.

And also a lot of this sense of responsibility. Life was very good with my family. God was very good to us. What about your father? He didn't want me to be a musician. Neither my father, nor my mother, nor anyone else. Because politics exposes you too much.

You stop having a private life. Unlike the artist, who, if the person swears, doesn't swear, if you go to a place that is not appropriate, no one has anything to do with your life. Now the politician has some responsibilities with society, that you limit yourself to a lot of things.

But anyway, I understood that I had to do this challenge. And I was building a project to reach the state government. I was building a political group, with mayors of a new generation, and it was working. It was working. Until I reached the government. with politicians, with mayors of a new generation, and it worked. It worked. Until the government came.

I think this kind of story is cool, because, like, we, in our artistic career, both private and personal, we don't have this dimension of what would be... We only have the good and hater return of the public.

We don't end up having the bad return of the public, let's say. You're talking about the disposition of personal life. Disposition of personal life. Of the people who see you as an enemy, as a politician. Yeah, because until today, basically, I as an artist, I don't know you as an artist,

if anyone went after to discover something of yours to be able to use it. Politicians should already have this type of... And today it's interesting, I think the big challenge of those who are in public life is to be a public man, more than a public man, to be a public manager in a social network moment. Because in the past, you will remember, there was the cursed mouth. Every city had the famous cursed mouth.

It was the pub where the whistler was. Those guys who spoke ill of the mayor, the deputy, the governor, the president. There was that local debate. Not today. Today, where is the debate? It's the internet. The internet, the guy doesn't speak for 612. It's millions of people talking, debating, cursing, demanding.

So, and the cell phone became a TV so the guy goes through the hole and makes a video and says, where are you? You're not here so it became, it massified the criticism too much

it's cool you say that, I wanted to understand that how does it work? For example, in my case I have my Instagram, if someone says something I see the comment there it reaches me and it affects me directly like a human being

the person says something to me, it has already reached me, I say, I'm going to answer this, I'm not going to. How is it in the case of a governor who receives that type of message, that type of complaint, you can answer that, or you go through someone,

you say, you can say this, you can't, how does this social network relationship work?

I avoid being influenced by social media. And it's not just social media, Instagram, Facebook, it's blogs, anything. Because otherwise you're biased by it. As I have a planning of what I have to do, as a manager, as a governor,

I have to work on the program. This doesn't mean that that the guy who says, the street is bad, the road is bad, doesn't mean I didn't take precautions. That's your kind of good criticism, that's an alert for you,

because you can't be in everything and everywhere. Now, if you keep following the guy cursing you every day, you go crazy. So, since I took over the government, which will be 6 and a half years, I never worried about absorbing the internet as a whole. Because I know what I have to do. It becomes a direct channel with...

Those I followed, who ended up governing by the internet, didn't have a good result. No, it's like here. If we do the show on the internet, we don't call anyone. We call the people from the left, the right, the left, the left. And the opposite too, you call the people from the left, the right, the left. By the way, how do you see yourself? Right, left, center right, center left?

Vilela, I never really cared about this typology that is very strong in Brazil, in the world as a whole. But they just put you in a box. I always said, more than ideology, I care about methodology. What worked in the world for us to implement. But I'm a guy who defends economic freedom, freedom of expression,

the defense of life. So, usually you're in the right-wing center. Conservatives, etc. So, now, with a social look, with social justice, which is a agenda that the left tried to steal from it, to get from it, which is not true.

Social justice has to be in any field. It is an obligation of the public power to extend a hand to those who are more humble, weaker, who haven't had the same opportunities in life. You have to create an environment where people can prosper. So I think like this, I defend a smaller state, I won't say a minimum state, a smaller state that is less burdening for the worker, with less taxes,

all of this has to be based on a vision. I understand that it's a center of law. And how did you find the state? What do you think were your advantages, your positive points, negative points? Look, Paraná has a relatively well organized state. There were some moments of financial crisis, but I inherited a state with zero cash, but it wasn't as broken as Eduardo Leite's state in Rio Grande do Sul, which is almost irreversible,

even though he's doing a lot of work to re-establish it in Rio Grande do Sul, which is an important state. Minas Gerais also, with Zema, which got the state totally out of control. But we made a big plan to modernize the machine. So I cut half the number of secretaries, commissions, I returned the rented jet, I ended up with the government's depository.

You go taking out the bribes. When you take out the bribes, there's money left for what you need to do for the citizen. And today Paraná has the best fiscal and financial situation in Brazil. Today there's no state, and I'm not the one who says this, it's the National Treasury that does the analysis of the balance of the prefectures and the state governments. And there is also the highest education score, right?

Yes, I took the 7th place in the IDEB, and today we have the best education for 5 years, first place in the IDEB in general. It's a great honor for me, and I think this is a great pride for any manager, to deliver a quality education. And how is Paraná in relation to tourism? What is your concern? So, you know that Paraná was a very shy state in terms of presenting its image to attract tourists to our state.

Except for Foz do Iguaçu, which has always been a big business card, but the rest of the state's potential was not explored enough, let's say, as a business to generate employment. And we started back there to organize the tourism chain, because you have to organize the hotel sector, the hotel sector, gastronomy, restaurants, there's all this transport issue. So we reorganized the state.

You take an example, right? Sometimes Brazil is a country that lacks a bit of logic for the public sector. Foz do Iguaçu is the second foreign destination in Brazil. First, Rio de Janeiro. Oh, really? Yeah, second Foz do Iguaçu.

I didn't know it was that much. Foreign, right? In leisure tourism. Business tourism, São Paulo obviously has a large volume. But leisure tourism, Rio de Janeiro, first, Foz do Iguaçu, second. Foz do Iguaçu, second tourist destination.

Foreigner, and there was no airplane runway that went down to the international flight.

Dude, fuck.

You have to go down to Curitiba and then there. You connect São Paulo to Curitiba and then you go there. So what did I do? Right in the first year, I increased the runway, we increased it by 600 meters, increased the runway, and now there's international flights. So today, from South America, we have practically all the countries.

Now we're closing Panama and other countries to be able to do this line. So, I mean, it's a lack of reasoning. With one action you solve a whole region of... ...of attraction. The coast of Paraná is not very well known, right? Yeah, this is a job we're starting to...

Curitiba is already a city that is a cultural and gastronomic part, very famous. Curitiba is strong. Today, tourism in Curitiba is growing a lot. Curitiba is a very beautiful city, a safe city. The food is cheap, if you compare it to São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. The restaurants in Curitiba are free. The hotel sector is also much cheaper, close to São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.

So, if you want to go for a walk with your family, it's close to São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, it takes you an hour by flight, at most. São Paulo takes less. It's nice there, right? There are many parks, right? The parks in Curitiba are a show, a postcard, really. So there's a lot of good stuff.

Good things there, right?

I recently went there, Bianca created a travel show, called Look Where We Go. And then she said, we could do a car trip and such. And every time I go to Curitiba,

Bianca and I always go by car. I said, Nenes, we can do what I know, which is Paraná, we can do it, we can film it.

It's that funny road, right?

Yes, we can do it. Man, I was doing the route we did, we did Curitiba, there's a city next to Curitiba, 40 minutes away, São Luís do Purunã.

I don't know.

Balsa Nova, Balsa Nova, São Luís do Bruno is the region there, right?

It's on the side there.

Dude, we met there, Morretes, then I went down to Morretes.

Morretes, which has the...

Barreado, Barreado, Barreado, train climb, like that, I started doing some tours, like, you do it by car. It's a really cool tour, man. Curitiba as a base, if you want to stay... You can do a round trip, if you want to, on the same day. You can do a round trip. This train ride was elected by the BBC of London among the 5 most beautiful train rides in the world. It's a show. I didn't do it by train, I did it by car, on Graciosa Street, which is really cool.

The train ride you do, they serve food and... Drink at will. During the train ride. It's very beautiful, it's worth it. It's very cool. We did this recording, we recorded 11 cities. And some curiosities, there's the city of beans. Prudentopolis.

Prudentopolis. Capital of black beans. Capital of black beans. It's the biggest feijoada in Brazil. They make it in a big pot, and they take it with a straight digger. It's a big that people dig it with a straight digger. The priest did it and it's still working. It's going to be there in the next few days.

It's true.

There are some cool curiosities.

There's the priest's hole in Ponta Grossa. The priest's hole, the Friar's Fence. There's a show. There's the old town. There's Carambee, which is a Dutch colonization. And there's the lavender plantation.

You will meet a lavender plantation. You make a picnic in the middle of a lavender plantation. There comes lavender ice cream, lavender cheese.

What about this cachacoto, Homer?

It's very beautiful.

It's really beautiful.

And there is the land of the pie. The pie is very famous there. There are several flavors, but the pies are very famous. there. There are many flavors, right? But the pies are very famous.

Prudentopolis has the Ukrainian cuisine. Man, it's very crazy, Bilena.

You go there by car, very close. Prudentopolis, after Ukraine, Chicago and Prudentopolis, Paraná as a whole, but Prudentopolis specifically, are the regions in the world that have the most Ukrainians. There are a lot of Ukrainians. 600,000 Ukrainians in Paraná. That's what happened in the 50s and 60s, and the families stayed.

At the beginning of the war, a lot of Ukrainians came to Paraná. There's a Ukrainian church where the mass is prayed in Ukrainian. Wow. Have you been to Ilha do Mel? I've been to Ilha do Mel. It's a famous island, right? More people know him. Yeah, he's from Melbourne. Tourism is growing a lot there. I think it was the early 90s, early 2000s.

I don't know how it is now. It was during the camping season, it was just camping. Now there's a good inn, good restaurants. But you were going to talk about the coast. So, the coast of Paraná, we got a lot with Santa Catarina. Santa Catarina earned a lot of market share. Thanks to them, they did a great job of spreading the word,

they structured the coastline very well. The coastline of Santa Catarina is a beautiful coastline.

Where is this, Romer?

This is Padre's Hole. Padre's Hole. This is Fenda da Freira. Padre's Hole is very close to each other.

It's suggestive.

Look at the name, right?

There's even the clitoris.

Yeah, the priest's fang.

Damn.

Where's the priest's hole? Is it there? It's already there.

There, in Ponta Grossa, there's the...

The... The...

The Parque Vila Velha.

The Parque Vila Velha, beautiful too. There's Zarenito, there's Ocalyx, Calice, it's cool. Look at this hole, this one you go in, it's almost a cave, and soon this clearing opens in the middle of the rock and there's a waterfall. There's a waterfall, I didn't even know about it. This one is a success. It's not advertised, it has to be more advertised. It's growing well.

But you said there was this competition with Florianópolis... No, Santa Catarina's coastline grew a lot because of this zero-organization, the city's restructuring, the balneary, and there's a really beautiful coastline in Santa Catarina. And we were left behind. So when I took over, we started planning to restructure our coastline. So we did the engorgement of Praia deinhos Beach, which we call the sea erosion combat. The largest sea erosion combat work in South America

was 14 km of beach fattening. What you saw in Camboriú, which increased the sand, that's called fattening, but it's sea erosion combat. But Camboriú did 3 km, we did 14 km. So we did akm. We restructured, now we are restructuring Pontal do Paraná, Ilha do Mel, doing basic sanitation, new inns, gastronomy.

So we created an ecosystem for tourism and infrastructure. What does a tourist want? He wants quality infrastructure, a good inn, good restaurant, security. And today we have Ponta de Guaratuba, which is the infrastructure, the quality, a good hotel, a good restaurant, security... And today we have the tip of Guaratuba, which is a construction that 40 years ago was talked about and today it's being finished, we have 70% of it ready.

Which will unite what?

Guaratuba and Matinhos. It was still by balsa. 40 years ago it was by balsa. Then we won all these stages of lobbies, of all this that often gets in the way, and today it's a reality. So we did a summer festival, the biggest summer festival in Brazil, today is the summer of Paraná. We usually have more than 30 national events of artists, all genres, bringing a lot of people,

a show of 300 thousand people, it's a really cool thing. It's a show of 300,000 people, it's a really cool thing. And it changed from the coast, because it was either young or a fisherman. There wasn't much, or I worked in the port of Paranaguá, there wasn't much. Not today, today I work at the inns, I become a chef, I open my own business. So, I mean, it changed the whole dynamic of the region.

Yeah, I want to know questions from the people, Homer.

Let's go. Alberto Bertolazzi asked, Governor, I don't know if you remember the finale of the Hamburger, but he said that the beaches of Paraná were a mess at the time.

Is it still like that or has it improved? I remember, the Hamburger was a piece of shit at the time. Is it still like that or has it improved? I remember, Borguetti was a person that... By the way, my father was a reporter for Borguetti for many years. He was a person that my father learned a lot from, he did a police program in Paraná, regionally. That's why I said, we were left behind for Santa Catarina.

Today, the beaches of Paraná are another reality. Today, basic sanitation in all of them, all the swimming pools, it has changed a lot. Today, it's a beach that we are equal to the beaches of several Brazilian coasts, which are beautiful.

Brazil is a country that has the privilege of having a fantastic coastline. So, we have a dispute with great people, it's not easy.

Even my will is to go with you to the beach, you watch and I go to the coast.

Look at the burger.

I miss the burger. Alex Vaz sent a hug. He said he's watching. Thank you. A hug for you, Alex. Send it, Romer. Lucas Pereira is asking if you believe that your public image as the son of Ratinho helps or hinders your political life? Look, in my life, so far, it only helped. My father is a person who... My father is the face of the Brazilian people.

My father is a simple person. A person who didn't let success get in his way. A person who keeps the same friends from 40 years ago. So I think he is a person who always had

as a presenter and an animator and also when he gives his problems he thinks about the population I think my dad always had a... Now, like everything in life, there are people who like it and people who don't and it's the same with everyone

And it's the living proof, your dad, that not always the person who gets rich and famous is beautiful

There's nothing to do with it He's going to kill you, Luis, he's going to kill you later Not always the person who gets rich, famous, is beautiful. If you see a picture of him when he was younger, you'll see how he was and how he is now. He was just a nose, turned around.

I could put this audio I have, I've already shown you.

Which audio?

Once I went to his TV, in Ponta Grossa, I went to give an interview, and there was a picture of him very young. So I said, I got the mouse.

I sent the audio.

See if you can find his picture younger.

I have it here.

You have it?

But I'm not going to show the audio. Not the audio, because he curses me. He says a curse word.

No, right?

But what do you know?

Here, look.

I sent it here. He got better! Look at this picture. This is the picture. Show it to us. This one is beautiful. This one is beautiful.

It's good.

Look at the other one on the left.

This one is new. I sent it to him saying, Ratinho, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to expose your father.

He said something bad.

Wow, he said something bad. I sent this to him. He was at the reception of Márim Gá, he's very young here, he's not cute like that anymore. I told you he was young and cute, he answered me with a lot of affection.

Mateus Serra, go fuck yourself, I'm beautiful like any station, I'm a good guy.

You'll see.

What's up, you're talking to that person. Of course, the guy is quiet. But he's a beauty grade 10, right?

From 0 to 1000, grade 10.

Right?

Exactly.

Exactly.

And you can't have everything, right?

Because the guy will be beautiful too.

But you never thought about using the mustache? Oh no, it looks too much like him. My nose already delivers that I'm his son.

The voice is the same, but can you imitate him? No, I can't.

You can't?

No, no, no.

He's hard to imitate.

No, I don't need to imitate him, my father. The bully's hat.

No, I don't need to. Do you have coffee? He's hard to imitate. The one who imitates him well is Gui Santana.

Gui Santana? Gui Santana is... But the imitations of Gui Santana, he is the person.

He does the characterization too. I never understood why he does it

like walking on a bike, low. I think it's cheap doing that imitation. My dad hates it. He dies serious. Put a belly this size. And low.

And short legs.

It's cheap. Send it, Romero. The short legs. The short legs. Man, that's a good one.

Send it, Romero. We have some questions here.

Fuzarka's questions.

People's questions. Eduardo Ramos asked what was the most difficult decision you've ever made in the government of Paraná and that you believe to be a... that defines your profile as a manager?

A difficult decision is to make it all the time, right? But I think that Covid had many difficult decisions to make. Covid was a very hard moment for me.

Tell us about it.

I say that, Vilela, when there is death, you never had victory, right? You never had success. I think we managed to get through COVID better than some regions of Brazil and some places in the world. We managed to somehow ameliorate this suffering, which was crazy. It was worse than World War II in terms of deaths, in terms of... It was a huge problem on the planet.

So, in COVID, I had to make a lot of difficult decisions. At the beginning of the government, when you have to make very tough decisions, like washing the machine, I had a teacher strike in 60 days, because I started to clean up, clean up the union, the secretariat,

you start to get rid of those who are in the small power, that many try to keep it. The State was the first to make the State's reform, so it was... And today we have the most sadistic State in Brazil, in Paraná. It has 12 billion reais. Guaranteeing for many years the public servant who will be able to receive after retiring.

So, I think there are several difficult decisions. But I think Covid, the president's reform, were more difficult decisions.

Do you think it's a difficult decision to run for president?

I think so. I don't think it's a simple decision. I even think it's bold to say, I'm a candidate, from one time to the next. I think it's a construction, Vilela. First, if my name is being...

How old are you?

I'm 44.

No time, right?

44.

I think so. If the name is being said, it's because someone is seeing the work that is being done. And there's room for that. There's a gap there. I think, Vilela, what I think. I think we're all more or less the same age here.

Maybe Matheus is older.

I'm 54.

I just ran up the stairs.

I'm 54, I'm the oldest here.

I think like this, our generation, let's say the 70s, 80s generation, is being governed by the 50s generation. 40 years ago. I think Brazil needs to change the page. Nothing against those who were there, thank you very much, you did your part, with the mistakes or the hits, you tried.

Thank you very much. Now, a new generation needs to come to put a modernization in the country, a new world view. The world is changing, communication on the planet is changing. We are here, if you want, in China, you can see what we are doing live. There is Uber in England. You, depending on the application, you change the planet.

So you need to have a new generation that has a new view of public policy, a new view of the country. So I want to be part of this saff be part of this new generation that can help, that can collaborate and modernize Brazil. But your next step would be presidency or something before? Then it's a construction. I'm in my second term.

So next year I finish my term and I can either go to the current president's candidate or maybe even for senate, which would be a different plan. Isn't it a thought to be a candidate for president? I think this is a question. I want to be part of... Is this your decision or the party's?

No, no, this has to be a group decision, it's no use saying, oh, I'm a candidate, how generation, a saffron, what is that? Because we have a gap on the right, who will occupy this space in the next year's election, right? And they talk about your name, they talk about Zema. I think there's a gap for those who are moderate. What do you consider moderate?

I consider myself normal. The people who are killing themselves, No one can take it anymore. It's true. It's just extreme, right? Any research you do, 70% of the population can't take it anymore. So it's not me who's saying it. It's society. I was going to ask you that classic question.

What do you think is missing for Brazil? So, in your concept... Someone normal. Someone normal. Updating the app. If you analyze Brazil, what are the main problems now? Today it's institutional.

Today you have an institutional problem, that you have the powers changing the FIRE UP, and that's very bad. I think it's someone who can bring peace to the country, institutional peace first, put on everyone's shoes

the sandal of humility, let's touch Brazil, Let's make a plan, because Brazil doesn't have a plan for the medium and long term. It's not possible. We have capital, Vilela, which has 4% of sanitation. 4% of sanitation. Capital, I'm not talking about the countryside.

Capital, man.

4% of sanitation. Then you get a copy and you're spending 7 billion for a 30-day event. Nothing against Copia, I think the environmental discussion is important, sustainability, but it justifies in a poor country like ours, that there is no basic sanitation. You have 80% of the cities with paved streets, there is no plumbing gallery. You spend 7 billion, so the problem is not lack of money, the problem is priority.

I think someone has to modernize, put kids to do robotics, programming. I take the biggest educational policy of international exchange in Brazil, in fact, in South America, it's from Paraná. I send 2,000 students every year, United States, Canada, New Zealand, England and Australia to do exchange. It's not just to learn English, it's to make him come back with a first world head.

To help create leadership with a first world head. That's what Brazil needs. So, answering your question, to be practical, I think our generation can no longer delegate responsibility to the past generation. They did their part. Thank you very much. Now let's go. It's time for us to take over the country.

But then, not only politics, but the young sure that this generation will lead the country. I'm going to say what the future of the country is. I think we have to modernize the public machine, we have to move forward. But you said something important about polarization. I think we are living in the apex of polarization. It's one with hatred of the other, on social media, on the streets.

Do you see this with optimism or do you think it will get worse for the next election? No, I think the polarization will continue, there will be a bigger discussion, but I think that whoever is in power, there is no problem in having your own position, which is my case.

I already said that I have a view of the center-right. Now, you don't need to be in this fluff that doesn't put food on Mrs. Maria's table. Then you put yourself in Mrs. Maria's shoes, who takes two buses, three buses in the morning, stays an hour and a half on the bus to earn R$ 1,800, R$ 2,000. When she gets home, she turns on the newspaper,

a fight that doesn't solve her life, doesn't improve her son's education. No one can take it anymore. So what did I do in Paraná? What we are seeing in Brazil, our state already had. We had a governor who cursed everyone, expelled companies, fought with the court, with the assembly. This happened in Paraná 10, 15 years ago.

So for us it's not new in the state. I managed to pacify the state. So today the governor has respect for the legislative assembly, has respect for the court, each, for the Court of Justice, each one in his own role. Let's organize... For you to have an idea, the Legislative Assembly of Paraná gives half a billion back to the State.

Brazil doesn't have that. They save and give it back to me so I can build infrastructure. So, I mean, why? Create an environment. It's like that story, when two don't want to, one wants to, two don't want to, one doesn't want to, two don't fight. Brazil today is where everyone wants to fight. That's the problem. But the analysis we've done here, the debates we've had, brought everyone here to the São Paulo election,

and we see this both for São Paulo and for Brazil, a moderate candidate wins the second round, but hardly does a moderate candidate go to the second round, because in the first round, it seems that the extremes are the ones that go, right? Someone aligned to Lula and someone aligned to Bolsonaro. And then they go with a lot of rejection in the second round. So, the one who is more moderate ends up winning, like it was here in São Paulo, right?

Yeah, because people want a moderate. So, but in the first round, it seems that you can't take the moderate to the second round. In the first round, you can't take him. In the first round, you usually have the controversial ones, right? The one who wants to get a like today, the famous like. And people vote more to prevent him from going to the second round than to the guy himself. So they say, I don't even like this guy very much, but this guy is the only one who can beat him, so I vote for him. I think there will be this problem. But the voter is very conscious.

You can see it. Sometimes he likes to see the controversy, he likes to see one throwing the chair at the other, but in the end he says, this is not what I want for my city, this is not what I want for my state. In the end, it may be that one or the other election has an error,

but in the vast majority of people... But how do the backstage work? If you have a will or have the possibility to be a candidate, what is the path that the party follows? Does it do an internal research? No, the path is an internal political construction. But for example, you would be the first one to... You are in PSD. I am in PSD.

First, why did you disconnect from PL? No, I never I was in PL, but I have a good relationship with PL, it's part of my base. I have a a good relationship with President Bolsonaro, I've always had, I'm very grateful to him. But you didn't have any break-ups? No, no, not at all. I get along super well with him. When he was president, he helped Paraná a lot, I did a lot of work with him, like the second bridge Brazil-Paraguay, we built the Boiadeira highway,

which is a highway that for 50 years was said to connect the southern Maturos with Paraná. So I have a good relationship with him. President Bolsonaro always respected me because I was never this extremist, he always knows my position, but I've always been more cautious in everything. It's my profile, it's not that I'm against who does these things. Everyone has their own way of living.

So I have a list of parties that support me, that have a base in the Assembly.

Who would that be?

Today, the P.L. is part of our base. We have the M.D.B. We have the P.S.D., which is my father, the Republicans, we have Podemos, so we have a very good base in the state. So much so that we are advancing a lot because of this political support in the assembly, which is the parliament. If you don't have a parliament voting for your laws, you don't walk.

You don't walk, because everything is locked. Which is what is happening today in Brazil, unfortunately. Do you see how your name would be in front of these people? No, I think that today there is a space, right? There is a space. It is natural that a continental country, for you to gain scale, is not simple.

That's why I think it's a presumption, no one raises their hand, I'm a candidate anyway. It's a long construction. I'm going to do my job as a governor, which is my commitment to Paraná. That's why people elected me. And if in the future my party understands that I have the ability to represent, why isn't candidacy just winning elections?

Candidacy is a positioning of what you think of the country, a government plan. But how is this path? We don't know how these backstage works Now, this time of the year, are you already talking about it? Are you thinking about it? Is there a return to faith? No, no, no, this happens right there in front

You have...

This is for March, April, May It's for the middle of the year I thought this year was already... No, no, no... You have an internal path to analyze what you think of the party, of having a candidate, who could be the names, the bench of the federal representative, senators,

you go talking to see, to build. And up front the party evaluates if it will collaborate, if it won't. And the parties do internal researches. Oh, they do a They do a lot. The parties themselves release the name. They say, let's release this name to see what the population thinks.

Yes, because the party never has only one leadership. It has 2, 3 people who are known, or a little more, a little less. And they release it to see which one has a profile that let's say, that's better for the voters, right? In the sense of being able to win more votes to have the ability to win.

I see.

If one day you're a politician, I'll join your party. Is there anything he says that makes no sense, Homer? Let's go. It's all to score, to finish the block, close one block and come to the other.

Muriel Toninho is asking, Governor, which policy do you consider the most important for Paraná to stand out so much in recent years?

I think education is a very strong business.

Yes.

And, well, today, the leap we've made in education, both in the pedagogical part... The first state to have financial education, Vilela, in Brazil, in the school curriculum, Paraná. There, our young people learn associativism, cooperativism, entrepreneurship, oratory and family financial education. It's teaching the young people not to get indebted.

It's teaching the young people, teaching their father that buying a fridge at the service station will will pay for three refrigerators. I should have studied at Paraná. The guy who spends. Then we implanted robotics, programming. I have 500,000 students learning programming. Why is that? The next 10 years, 65 of the professions that will still be created, will be created in the technology area. So I'm making a workforce for the technology area. Just the fact that we are creating a lot of young people learning programming, what is going from start-up to Paraná, what is going from technology company is crazy.

Installed, now a short time ago, I was in India with the world president, TCS, the biggest Indian technology company in the world. TCS, it's under Tata. They have 600,000 employees worldwide, only in technology. They chose Londrina to set up their plant to serve South American customers, because we have a workforce in the technology sector. They have 3,000 employees in this sector,

and 10,000 employees in 3 years in the technology sector. So what do you do? You take a step in this young man's life. Today, the average salary of a Brazilian is R$2,300. A young man in the technology sector starts earning from R$5,000 to R$15,000. So you change his life level. We made this great transformation in education, which I think was a great showcase.

Paraná was four times elected the most sustainable state in Brazil. So, I think we managed to...

There's also the pavement, which you...

This is from the urbanization part, which is a program we made on top of you. Except for Mrs. Maria da Poeira, let's say. Today, the biggest urbanization program, 100% of the streets paved with rain gallery, sidewalks and LED lighting, 323 cities being made 100% of asphalt.

There's nothing like it. Why? We managed to dry the machine, there's money left to do that.

So, there was a question for me, which is question that is perhaps pertinent to those watching us here, which can be a clarification to a question like this. When you have a project like this, of education, urbanization, within a state, what's the difficulty of expanding something that worked in a state. What is the difficulty of expanding something that worked in a state to a nation?

You being the president, for example.

No, there is the scale. The scale, if you have a method...

The logic is to increase the scale.

But the decision is of each governor.

You have to build a partnership. It is hardly a governor will be against a good public policy, regardless of the party issue. It may be that one or the other doesn't want to, but in the vast majority of cases, you can scale it. You can scale it.

And what are we living now? We talked to Eduardo Bolsonaro about three weeks ago. We've talked to several actors. Tarsizio has is here, Raddadi, we are talking to everyone, everyone has been through the podcasts here. We are living a very complicated moment with the tariffs, this fight with Trump, this thing of freedom of expression being discussed. Yesterday we had a special program here about Felca's video, which talks about adulting.

So, social media are being discussed, the country is being discussed. We are in a very complicated moment here, right? People losing channels, people afraid to say this, what you can say and what you can't. How do you see this part? This part, freedom of expression versus network control, versus the dangers that we and our children have on social networks. First, I am totally against any kind of censorship of freedom of expression. I think that a country that has freedom, you have the right to speak.

If you say something stupid, you'll be sued. And you'll pay the price for it.

Especially from the political class.

You have to have the freedom to criticize. Exactly. That's what makes a democracy. You have the freedom of expression. Of course, putting a naked woman on YouTube at 2pm is different from having the freedom of expression. You can't do that on TV. You can't even do that on TV. Not even on the news. So, I mean, it's a different question of organizing what's not for a child or a teenager.

Now, freedom of expression, I think a democratic country has to have it all. To the point that if a guy says something that the other person is offended, there will be justice to look for, if that's the case, and be prosecuted and then discuss what the guy did or not, if he was offended or not. And several people having their channels and social networks down. This is bad, this is a horror. It's even a previous censorship.

This is a horror, this is a horror.

That's why I'm saying that there is a institutional problem today that is obviously creating a crisis in Brazil. That's when I said that I think it's important for everyone to put on their humility sandals, put the ball on the ground and rethink what's being done. Put on the headband, this is not bringing prosperity to Brazil. None. So I think this assessment is important. And what about the tariff war? What would you do if you were president? And what affects Paraná?

The tariff war, first of all, is not something Trump did only against Brazil, although I think it was a joke he did to us, ok? To be very clear. I'm against it. But he did it to the whole world. He made the Philippines negotiate with him, Thailand negotiated with them now, Vietnam, he put a 40% rate, then he negotiated for 19%, Japan, everyone, China. What was the mistake in my assessment?

First, the mistake was to have the president of Brazil positioned there in the election in favor of Kamala Harris and be the electoral cable of Kamala Harris. Usually, one president does not get into the election of the other. So a diplomatic mistake started there. After he won, he started to speak ill of President Trump, he started to instigate. Diplomatically, this is not good. Brazil has always been a peaceful country, including politically, both in war terms and in political terms.

And this was taking proportions. People talk a lot about the relationship with Trump and Bolsonaro, which I think there is, I think there is a love for Bolsonaro, but that's not what made the United States fight in a 200-year relationship. It was these diplomatic mistakes that happened. No one went there to sit down. Bolsonaro put the firewood there too.

No one went there to sit down. The chancellor had to have gone there. When he released the vote, he said, why? Let's see if we can help. When he said it was too late. It was too late.

Now it's too late.

They stretched the rope. And then what happened? China, which is the biggest competitor today, of the United States, is there talking. Xi Jinping has called Trump 14 times since April.

Wow.

14 times. 14 times. And China, right? Russia, the biggest enemy, the war enemy, is there negotiating with Trump. You'll find it in Alaska. And here we are, in a little video from the internet, playing around.

It's working as it's working. So this is very bad. So I think now is the time to take politics out of the way, leave the Itamaraty, those who are experts in this commercial negotiation, to try to ease the problem.

And Paraná? Paraná, not much, but we have some productive chains that can be affected, such as the derivative of reforestation wood. We are the state that has the most products of reforestation wood. Cellulose, compensated, the fur trade sector, right?

So this could be that... And the rate goes up. It goes up, because we sell a lot of compensated to the United States. What else is Paraná strong for export? We are the second automotive pole in Brazil.

Second?

Second. São Paulo first, Paraná... Who's there? Renault, Volkswagen, Audi, DAF, Volvo, New Holland, Caterpillar...

We lost some... São Paulo lost some, right?

Paraná didn't lose any.

And now a Chinese assembly line will come. Which one? Do you know? I can't say, but it's right.

Not Dilley, right?

Well, it's more... I'm not him. Someone told him. No, I'm the boy of the ad. I'm the boy of the ad for Dilley, that's why I know. So you're more informed than me.

Actually, I played green.

Look, Dilley, I want my share.

But Dilley is going, they're getting in hard. They've already made an announcement, and their cars are really fantastic. I saw their announcement, the launch was in early August, it was a national campaign. They're going to rock BID. Fuck, man. They're going to rock.

They have a very good caldera. The EX5, man, what a car.

And it's going to be there, then? It's going to be there.

Do you know what city it is?

São José dos Pinhais. It's on the side. Why is it good? Because it's close to the port, right? We have a port in Paranaguá Right. Is it close? It's 70km away, it's a double track, the logistics are good. There's also the airport, there's a lot of parts that come by air cargo transport, right? So we are first in cellulose, second in the automotive sector, the largest energy generator in Brazil, 20% of all Brazil's energy is generated in Paraná. The surplus... it seems the US wants to buy it.

Was there a talk about this?

About what?

About the surplus of energy? No, because we sell... Who sells us the surplus is Paraguay.

Oh, really?

Paraguay is... So we need... We need it. We buy from them. We buy from them. They use 20% of energy... is and we're among the top 10. But in general, in terms of volume, Paraná is the biggest animal protein producer. We're second in grains.

Fruit? Fruit, we have a lot of... Goiaba, a production that we sell a lot to Spain, region of Carlopolis. We're a big producer of avocado, which is growing... Avocado?

Avocado. Avocado is the fruit that will grow the most until 2030. It's crazy. In the world. Really? Yeah, because that good fat, now everyone is fit in the store. Wanting, right? And we have a good production of pineapple. We are the largest producer of organic food in Brazil.

We have more than 5,500 farmers who only produce certified organic food. We also have the second dairy basin, Minas first, Paranal 2nd. So we have a very good production chain and a lot of technology. Is it the fourth PIB in Brazil? Yes, the fourth PIB.

São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas and us. And then you. We passed Rio Grande do Sul. Historically, if it was the fourth, we were able to pass Rio Grande do Sul.

Hey, Romer, what do people want to know? If it was 4th, we could have a big jump and pass the big soup.

Hey, Romer. What do people want to know? People are nervous here in the chat, right? They are fighting among themselves. We have a question from Zé Corubu. He sent it here. Good afternoon. About the PM contest in progress, any forecast of possession and if there will be a bigger call than the number of vacancies in the editorial? PM and a mentum Prevision de posse is it a machamada my orky for a number dividers medical

No, some 2600 police I say centos bombeiros a dois mil policiais militares I'll probably go out of some semester a Entra pademia. Ja no nice. Don't you? Oh Ricky's in only to mentor fellow naked is he gonna say public a little preg asking if you will call the second group of the criminal police.

We are 600 people waiting for the call.

We have now called 600 from the civil police, which has already entered the academy. We have also done the career structuring of the criminal police. And now we are evaluating the number of people who need to be called. Still about the election, I ended up not finishing the thought, right? I would like you to do an analysis of what can happen to 26, do you believe that Lula will be even polarized, will he go to re-election or not?

I think Lula is a candidate, there is no doubt. Adade hit the hammer that is himself. Yeah, Lula... But by age and by... And this... I want him to be himself. But because of his age and... Because it would be bad if he lost the election and would end his biography with a defeat. Don't you think there's this danger?

No, I think he's a person who's been doing politics for 60 years. He won't change now and stop doing it. So it would be him. On the right or in the center, do you see other possible candidates. I see, Vilela, today Brazil is in the best group of governors in the last 30 years. And I'm not talking about parties, ok?

If you take Northeast, North, Central West, Southeast, South, there will be one or two or even more very good governors, good managers, who are achieving fantastic numbers, regardless of party. I think that even those who are holding Brazil today are the governors,

with fiscal quality, not sharing the states, with jobs. Today, if you look at it, very few governors depend on the federal government. Very few. Even the municipalities, who don't have money themselves, so no one is depending on them, they're not even counting.

So there's a spontaneous effect in this race.

I think you have a lot of people there. Eduardo Leite himself from Rio Grande do Sul, who is a great person from our generation. You have Zema from Minas Gerais, who took the state in a sad situation and organized the house. You have Tarciso, who is a great governor of São Paulo, who was a great minister too.

Of course, Tarciso still has the possibility of a second election, of a second election, a re-election. So he's... And he said he's going to the re-election. But it's a great name, a great political asset that Brazil has. You have Caiado in Goiás, you have Riedel in Mato Grosso do Sul, Mauro Mendes in Mato Grosso.

It's a wonderful saffron. If you take Raquel Lira from Pernambuco, or the beat of Sergipe, there are some very good pictures. Brazil is, for the next 20 years, if people are still active in politics, we are very calm and have a good range of managers. And with that, a new president can emerge, with a new range. I think it will emerge. I think so. I think Brazil can't stand it anymore. I won't say that people can't stand it anymore. This method, it worked, it had to work. Thank you very much. Let's move on. I'll turn the key. Change the page. And what do you take from your political career that could be taken from these hits to a national level?

What can you replicate? I think a virtue that an administrator must have is the ability to build a team. I think I learned to build a good team. To understand what each one has good and where they can yield more to help the farm. So you wouldn't build a team based on political reasons? No, I wouldn't. I don't see any problem in having someone with a mandate, someone who is a politician.

But he has to have a minimum technical qualification of management skills. Because sometimes the guy is very talented in having votes, but when it's time to play, he doesn't touch the ox. Because to get the ox's horn, he doesn't grab it. He has to grab it.

He has to grab it.

It's not easy to hold it.

There are guys who don't grab the cow, but drink milk and ox.

Yeah, those guys.

Look at those guys.

Look at him. Tell us, Romer.

Mariana Oliveira is asking if you have open dialogue with PT and President Lula. I've been with the president twice in the last 2 and a half years, 3 years. One was in a visit he made to Renault, I went to receive him, being president of the republic, in my state. And the other was a project of road concessions that we did, for the first time we joined the federal highway with the state highway. And we signed the protocol, because I needed to sign it too.

But I have respect, I don't get angry at people because they think differently from me. I treat them as human beings, I have to respect them. It doesn't mean I have to vote for them.

Playing with Maria, she's sending this.

Why isn't the governor rescheduling the inflation of the servers in the state of Paraná? Because we reorganized the careers, which was the biggest in history in Paraná. We reorganized 19 careers in the state. I don't know what her career is, possibly if she does the math, she must have had 20 to 25% more

in her remuneration in this career restructuring. Christian Barone also asked a question about public safety. He's sending it here. The criminal police need to call all approved people. Yesterday, the prisoners stole a police car.

There are 619 people waiting for the training course. There are no forecasts at first. What is the government's idea about this? Look, the government is investing a lot in technology. We restructured the criminal police that didn't exist. I was the one who set up the criminal police.

When I took over the government, we had the worst system of prison in the country. We had 12,000 prisoners in police stations. I built 14 prisons, we took all these prisoners out of the police stations, we moved them to the criminal police. And we started putting the civil police to do what is their job, which is to keep giving a hammer to the prisoners. Now the police officer, the investigator, investigates what their function is.

And we are structuring, and we are structuring as we have the financial condition to not burst the sheet, there is a programming for that. But today we are using a lot more technology inside the prisons even to save the life of the criminal police officer and have to relate closely with the prisoners.

People are calling Matheus Ceará the Zé do Cachão, because he looks like Zé do Cachão. I have several, I have Zé do Cachão, I have... Seu Barriga, after the bariátrica. People call me that.

Your belly after the diarrhea. Yeah, your belly after the diarrhea. There are a lot of people like that. I prefer to look like people than look like no one. I prefer to be remembered somehow than in any way. Did you get the transplant?

I did.

It looks like you didn't get revenge. They planted a... I asked him to remove from a place that I can't say the name here to be a little bit cramped here. You wanted a tuppete.

Yeah, cramped. And rolled up. He didn't want to remove it because he said the position was different. But he removed 4200 wires from behind. Tiago Bianco. He took it off from behind.

Tiago Bianco is famous. Yeah, and he put it here in the front. But he said that after two months it falls. It falls and then it comes back. It's like drinking. Then I put on Johnson's oil, put on a shampoo, and it's really itchy.

But it's fine. The woman liked it, right? It's important for us women to like things. You didn't meet him before you got married. Before you got married, you were working, Mateus. Working on what? You were working on... There was a woman who came to him and said, I'm going to get you out of this place.

I was going to go there and say, I'm going to get you out of this place. You know what's up? I always joke about it, like Flamengo, he's a big fan of Gato Preto in Curitiba. Yeah, Gato Preto, the best! Canja de Curitiba, very famous. Gato Preto, their famous canja. I used to go there a lot with Estelão 24. Did you know that Julio Iglesias went to Gato Preto?

Oh, stop it!

He went to G crab, right?

I don't know.

We had to ask him.

My friend came here to film.

My friend came to drink a crab.

Do you want to tell us something, Edu?

No, it's just that Curitiba is the black cat business. When I was young, I lived in Curitiba for a year. I didn't know that. I lived in Curitiba for a year. I didn't know that. I lived in Curitiba for a year in 2002, 2003. I lived there working with home appliances sales. I was a sales supervisor.

I went there once. You were a Negodí, right? No, I can't say that. Where am I? I lived there to work with this thing of selling things and people talked about Gato Preto, I went to meet Gato Preto one day

I went once And when I was young I didn't get used to this thing of zoning You turned it off and they came to you No, not really I had a very poor childhood, right Vilela? I didn't have that...

I didn't have money to pay So it's like playing tricks, right? The guy being ugly is like playing tricks.

Why?

If you don't have a good partner, it's good that you have a good hand.

Homer is not believing, man.

It's not Homer, because...

It's not, the guy is single. Look, when I was single, I used to weigh 152kg. Who would want to give with a man like that? I was a man of two pleasures. When I was done, I would leave. How much did you weigh?

152kg.

Wow.

I'm not going to say this, the governor is here.

Let's talk about it.

The guy who eats goat meat is going to get married. It looks like he's throwing a stick. It looks like he're throwing a stick. It's like you're throwing a stick, doing this with your hand.

Oh my God.

Relax, man.

Ok, go ahead, Robert.

Hugo Jumblut is asking, what's your opinion about hydrogen as a fuel of the future? Man, that's a specific question. What I've seen, first, in terms of fuel, Toyota is the most advanced in this hydrogen issue, hydrogen engine.

And even in electric, people are evolving a lot in batteries, faster batteries, those charging exchanges,

supercharging and such.

And there's the green hydrogen, which are the plants that are being planted to generate energy, and also make fertilizers, ammonia, urea, which goes through the green hydrogen. Then you need a lot of natural gas. We have a plant that is being made in Araucaria, of 3 or 2 megawatts, if I'm not mistaken, which is an experimental plant. And the carbon credit, is that what it's called? I've never seen anyone make money with this, to tell you the truth, until today.

I haven't seen it be a business, this. This takes, these laws take, and it becomes a business. If it doesn't become a business, it's just to, how do you say it? To be politically correct. I see. What is the work of Moigão, of Porto Paranaguá and the projection of this project? It's a cool work, a port work that we are doing in Porto Paranaguá. We will inaugurate in December.

Porto Paranaguá, after Porto Santos, is the second largest port in Brazil, and today it has been the second most efficient port in Brazil, according to the Ministry of Infrastructure. What is an efficient port? It's the volume of cargo movement per square meter. So, in a house size, you can rotate so many ships per day, per hour, per week. So, this Moegão project is the arrival of the train. So, today we have the train that you got off there walking, but you have the part, it also does the cargo part. So, today it unloads 180 wagons a day.

With this work that we are doing, which is a pear, the train arrives, it goes there in front and comes back, so it doesn't have to be dismembered. It will leave 180 wagons a day to 900 wagons per day. So we will have the so-called modal balance. Half of the cargo arrives by train and the other half arrives by truck. In Brazil, it is usually 75-25, 75 truck, 25 train. So we will be one of the first ports in Brazil to have this modal balance. And it is a work of 600 million that is ready now in December,

which will give a jump in the port of almost 30% more cargo movement. So, what is this interesting for the citizen? Very little, but for the rural producer, for the guy who is in Mato Grosso do Sul, who is here in the São Paulo area, who doesn't use Santos, but uses the people from Dili,

for example, when there is a factory to export cars. So all this is very important for industrial and agricultural production.

There's a question here.

Junio asked if the duplication of the Minério's highway will come to Rio Branco do Sul? It will. It's already on the third lot. There are four lots we're doing. We've already inaugurated the first one. The second one is being finished and we've already started the third one. This is an emblematic highway, because it connects a city that has Votorantim, which is one of the largest cement factories, it has a large cement plant, it produces a lot of cement.

It connects the city of Rio Branco and Itaperuçu, and this highway, we are duplicating it in concrete. It's a highway that has a lot of truck and car volume. It takes three cities, which takes the city of Minas Tamandaré and Curitiba, which is very important. And we are doing all of it in concrete. I'm doing 15 highways in concrete in Paraná. I already delivered one, I delivered it these days.

And we have 15 highways running in concrete. Today, concrete is not cheaper than asphalt, but it has already greatly reduced the price difference. Today it is 15, 20% more, but the durability is twice as much as asphalt. So you have 20 years of highway without the need for so much conservation.

I thought it was a very stupid thing now. It could be your slogan for the president. Vote for Ratinho Jr. Everything I promise you will be concrete.

Don't go to his. Don't go to his, send it to Romer. Viller Mendes is asking, what is the governor's opinion about the action of the Supreme Court and the Brazilian Judiciary?

Are they within constitutional norms and what is the solution?

The solution is what I just said, lower the temperature. Today, unfortunately, the institutions are in shock. Congress is cursing the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court with some measures that, in the assessment of the main Brazilian judges, that go beyond the measure, that shouldn't happen, or should be judged by the plenum,, not by a judge or a group. These are questions that, in a democratic country,

have to be evaluated with great care, because we might lose our hand in this regard. So I think that, in some moments, there are excesses, and this has to be fixed. And it will only be fixed when someone has the capacity to reduce the fervor. Unfortunately, we are in a very tough environment.

Just one thing, Matheus, if you have any questions, ask them. I put a question box on Instagram.

The next one is yours. William Serê is asking, Governor, do you have any plans to change the tax on the B wire of solar energy? Currently, until 2029, it seems that it will be 90% of the tax on the surplus.

The regulation of energy... Explain to us what is the B wire, what is... The regulation of energy is done by ANEL, the National Energy Agency. People often confuse that it is a matter of the city hall, of the state, and it is not. It is a national agency that does all this regulation of taxation and taxation. Ok, so it has nothing to do with your work, right?

Now you don't have to keep asking me your serious stuff, Matheus. You can go. You can go. You can go.

Is it more than a palm tree?

No, you don't have to ask me.

You don't have to be so serious. You don't have to be so serious.

It's like a kid from Bengala. I heard such a good joke. Do you know what's common between Freire and Kid Bengala?

It's when they hold hands and only hold 1 third.

Stop it.

What were you going to say?

I heard such a good joke. Can I tell a joke? Look. The guy enters a bar with a 60cm deck. What are you talking about? I saw a joke, can I tell a joke? Sure! The guy enters a bar with a 60cm deck and the owner says I've never seen a 60cm deck let's play, and he starts playing

the tricks alone and the guy asks where did you get a 60cm deck and he says I found a magic lamp I rubbed it and a genius came out and the guy says can I rub it? and the owner says of course I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out of the magic, I got a genie out on the floor, grass on the wall, grass on the ceiling.

The bar owner looked at the guy and said, this is a dirty joke, right? The guy said, of course it is.

Or do you really think I asked for a 700cm deck?

How wonderful.

I think this joke is wonderful.

The guy told me in the cold of the morning.

1.30am.

I was about to tell you a joke, but I forgot.

You don't know me, I'll tell you in the village.

Very good.

Good joke.

The guy asked the following. Governor Eduardo, what is your plan for the project of the most summer coast at the end of the year? I can't tell you because we're going to release it now, I think it's September, more or less.

Give me a hint.

No, no, no.

Something.

No, we have to let it do, how do you say it?

Do...

Suspense, man. Suspense. But I can guarantee you, you can book a house, rent a house, apartment, it will be good. Where will it be? There's a whole coastline of shows. Pontal do Paraná, Matinhos, which is the main stage. Guaratuba, we do more regional shows, and sports facilities, but he must be talking about shows.

Will there be an international show?

I don't know, I can't say. You want to break the curiosity? I want to.

I'm actually agonizing.

Give me a hint. A name, a hint for a name. Do you want to break the curiosity? I do! I'm really anxious.

Give me a hint. You can book a house. You're my guest. You and Mateus are my guests. You're going? Take your family, wife, daughter.

You're also a guest. We're going to eat jaguar meat. It's good. Are you kidding? It's good. You're kidding. No, it's true. It's a typical dish of ours. Really?

I never knew if he was telling the truth or kidding. It's a bread with jaguar meat. It's a homemade bread with jaguar meat, which is a meat with a specific seasoning.

It's called jaguar meat because it comes with a lot of onion. a Have you ever put a vine in your mouth? Yeah, man. Have you ever had a vine in the middle of your back?

Cuca, do you know what a cuca is?

Your cuca is me.

Cuca is a person who doesn't know what it is.

You don't know?

She eats a lot. I'm not a chegado, but people eat.

Barreado, do you eat?

Without banana. I don't know if you know it. Gengis Khan, wow! It's good, right?

It's too good.

You put a bacon on top, to give it a fat. A very thin meat with... If you buy Alcatra, like this, cut it... The day you go to Curitiba, I'll do it for you. with a little Japanese guy who makes a wonderful seasoning. A big pan. You just put it on top and it's a kumbuka.

Yeah.

You put a bacon on top and it drains the fat.

It's very good.

On the iron, on the grill, which is an oval grill. And then you put it on. It's delicious.

I have a friend who is Japanese from Curitiba. I was with him walking around the center. Where is the area? I said, man, you go down here, turn right, you'll get to the area. He said in front of a house in Macumba. When he knocked on the door, the woman opened and said, Saravá? I said, Saravá, no, as dirty as it is.

But the... The jaguar meat is very good. I'll try it.

Saravá, send it, send it. I'm asking Vandreia Cardoso, Governor, explain a little about the mosquito factory.

Mosquito factory?

Yeah, it must be crazy.

What, is it falling hair?

Yeah, go, go, another one.

Ah, this I'm kind of out, I'm not going to say it because I don't know what this thing is. Fabricio Bibiano is asking, about the North Pioneer of Paraná. I would like to know which projects are being carried out and which new projects for the future. North Pioneer will start this semester the duplication of Jacarezinho, in the direction of Santo Antônio da Platina, in the direction of Jaguariaíva, which is an important highway that makes the border with Ourinhos, the state of São Paulo, which is an important city in our border.

It will really transform the region because it's becoming a very strong logistical axis. With a lot of industry going to Jacarezinho and also to Santo Antônio da Platina. Soja entered very strongly a few years ago. It has risen a lot. There's Carlópolis, which is close tobeirão Claro, which you know, Matheus. Yes, Carlopolis, Ribeirão Claro, I've been there. It's going to be that highway that is a main highway, ex-main highway, and it's starting to double this semester.

Ribeirão Claro has a bridge, which is the bridge that connects the state of...

São Paulo. São Paulo to Paraná, which is made of wood, so it's more than 100 years old. You just have to walk. There was a cart to take coffee to São Paulo, it was a historic bridge.

You know that there's a story that people told me, that once a 18 year old girl went to eat goiabas, and when she got on her feet, she was in a skirt and no panties, and the priest saw her and said to my daughter, I She said, 50 reais, no money, she said, 50 reais no money. Then she waited for the priest to come back, the old woman.

She went up.

And stayed there. Then when she saw that the priest was coming back, she took off her panties and went up too. Then the priest said, my lady, for God's sake, get down here. Then the old woman got down. When the old woman got down, he gave her two reais in her hand. But it's already good Homer, do you know where Rolandia is?

I don't know

It's in Paraná

Really?

Have you ever been to Rolandia?

People from there get married a lot with Corralinho I don't have one

Send it

I'm looking for it

It's stuck, it's stuck Matheus, Matheus Let me see what's here. Did you ask people to send questions? I asked people to enter the question box here on Instagram. What's your Instagram?

MatheusSeara. Want to see our trip to Paraná? Enter there on Look Where We Go. We have an Instagram called Look Where We Go.

It's another Instagram. It's a project we did on a trip. This region that he went to Ribeirão Claro has a beautiful dam, the Chavantes Dam, that divides São Paulo and Paraná. It's known as Angra Doce, because it has a water color very similar to Angra dos Reis. It's a very beautiful, transparent, emerald water.

It's a region that has fantastic hotels, there are taiaia, there are inns. There are a lot of there are taiaia, there are inns. There are growing a lot of tourists there too. People are asking, and they already asked him too. Talk about the Guaratuba Bridge. I already talked about it.

CNH Social, how will it work?

It's already working. As people are in the unique registration, we, on top of this unique registration are the people who have the right to have the free wallet, right? That the unique registration is a

a big concern that I have in Brazil because we Brazilians we have a habit of abbreviating things General Register Physical Person Register

CPF National Habilitation Wallet

CNH Unique Registration CPF National Habilitation Wallet CNH

Single Registration

Ok, I got it. We understand.

I got it.

I have a very big concern.

You already did your... Ok.

There is a question here from Kinox.

My mother is a widow and pensioner in the state of Paraná and she complains a lot that my father's pension hasn't been corrected for a long time. When do you think about getting the pensioners' salaries back? When we do, we do it in general, right? We did it last year, we gave a reposition, and next year we will do it again. We don't differ in the retirement age from the native, we do it in general. And Bissoto, what are the governor of projects for the video game and sports area. Today the biggest gaming polo is in São Paulo and in Paraná we have technology to stand out.

It's the programming lessons that I told you about education, that we are doing this polo, this hand-to-hand bursary for the technology area, which also serves the gaming sector and everything related to technology. We have a very cool project called Talent Tech, where we register all the companies that are in the technology area and recruit students, who pass the test, obviously,

recruit students for these companies. So we closed with the biggest, these big techs, that today we talk about so much, right. And today we have several young people already working, like on top of this talent, tech, who also left public school. And we have a program where we bank the startups that are starting in any area, of course, within the technology area, being a startup, right?

That we invest from 200 to 1 million reais, depending on the startup, to start running the company. This is a project we did that is a success too. Hey, Romer. João Victor is asking, in Ponta Grossa, LG, in the Curitiba region, why don't we see companies like this coming to the Londrina region? Look, Londrina has an industrial park that was inaugurated recently

that has, if I'm not mistaken, 90 industrial land that is all full. There's not even more today, if someone wants to install in that industrial park, there's no space. There was the J. Macedo mine with an investment of more than 600 million. Sometimes people get involved in the most popular brands, but there are also TCS. Possibly few people know TCS. It's much more important than many other industries in the world.

That's where Ilondrina is with its 3,000 programmers. Recently I went to Foz do Iguaçu and people were saying that you're going to have a museum Jorge Pompidou Museum Jorge Pompidou Museum is one of the five most important museums on the planet It's a French museum that is in Paris It's all...

It's all outside, there are corners, everything is external

Yes

See if you can find the Pompidou It was made in the 70s and it was a... It was made in the 70s, it was an architectural revolution in the middle of Paris. It's a whole skeleton outwards, it's very cool. This museum is very important, it has Van Gogh, Picasso, the works are worth billions in their collection. Four years of negotiation with the curatorship of the George Pompidou Museum.

We were competing with New Jersey and we entered with Foz do Iguaçu. And we managed to win from New Jersey in the United States. They call it an antenna, right? An antenna goes to Foz do Iguaçu. The project is getting spectacular. We hired an architect, Benites,

a Paraguayan architect, who was a gold medalist in 2016. A great architect. This is the museum in Paris, in France. The Pompidou. It will be closed now. For the renovation, we'll spend 2 billion euros on his renovation.

It's a big deal, what we're going to do. And we're going to take this George Pompidou, the museum will be installed there in Fausto Iguaçu. It will be, after the falls, it will be a transformation, that this museum will attract international tourists. I learned later, in a negotiation with the French, the volume of tourists that have a world circuit of museums in the world,

a passport that you stamp as you visit. It's a business that moves billions of dollars just from people who travel to visit museums around the world. So this museum, Jorge Pompidou, in Foz do Iguaçu, will be a show for Brazil, for Brazilian culture, to strengthen Brazilian artists.

It will be a great cultural project for us.

It's already done, then?

It's already done, we've signed it in France. It's been two months, three months, more or months, 4 years of negotiations with them. The project is ready now, possibly in November, the finalization, we already have the architect sketch, the project, it's beautiful, and in November we'll go to the construction site to build the headquarters.

Ok. Homer.

Artembiqs is asking, Paraná has the potential to expand the historical tourism, valuing cities like Lapa, the Lapa Circle, Ancomínio and Morreques. How is the value of this culture

and history in Paraná? These cities are being very creative, have a lot of support from the Secretariat of Tourism, Secretary Paranjo, who is my secretary there, who already had the experience of being mayor of Cascavel, so a great knowledge of management.

And these cities are bursting, right? Because they were cities that often had history, but they were not able to have a good inn, a hotel that could receive these tourists, good gastronomy. So we've been doing a very strong work with Fê Comércio for 4 years.

We have the SESC Senai, which gives courses in this area of handcrafted qualification. And we have a resource within BRD. BRD is our Bank of the South. Like the BNDS do Sul, which is a development bank, a foment bank. And we put a lot of resources to have cheaper interest, for you to renovate the inn, build a hotel, rebuild a restaurant. The Fomento Paraná itself

has a lot of money for that. So this production chain is now reinventing itself and growing a lot post-COVID. You take Morretes, Morretes is crazy, what it has of tourists, yes. The city, very good hotels, very good, good restaurants. Antonina, now had a jazz festival, it was a success there in Antonina. Put a picture of Morretes, Antonina, there's a picture of... You've already had Lulu Santos there in Morretes, walking on the canoe, there's a canoe in the middle of the river, in the river Nundiaquara.

Nundiaquara, I did this tour. Yeah, yeah. It's like a balsa tour. Dude, go to our Instagram, it's called Look Where We Go. If you go to our Instagram, there's all these tours, we did these tours. It's a really cool tour.

Yeah, Lulo Santos spent six days there. and usually there are some cool personalities that you will meet and from time to time we go yeah, tell us Romer, send it

wait, I'll open another page

it's a lot of information to send to Romer yeah, Romer is lost, you can find the picture later for us do you know the story of the little nun that was walking on the street? at noon, the little nun walking on the street, the sun on her head you'll be excommunicated for making these jokes. No, but it's a joke.

So, I was walking down the street, and a girl passed by a Ferrari and said, do you want a ride to church? I said, yes, my daughter is hot, it's sunny. So, the girl got in the Ferrari for the first time, the bank hugged her, the air-conditioned. She said, wow, this car must have cost you a fortune. She said, no, I used to do sexual favors for a boyfriend of mine. And he gave me. She said, in exchange for sexual favors?

I said, yeah.

And this bag here? She said, it's a Gucci, it's an imported bag. She said, wow, it must have cost you a fortune. I said, no, it was another boyfriend I had too, who did sexual favors. And he gave me this bag. took her cane, went into her room, took a shower, read the Bible, prayed, prayed the text. When she went to bed, someone knocked on the door.

She said, who is it? Then on the other side, it's Father Bento. She said, put the meth bullets in your ass, you hard-ass.

Cute this joke. Cute.

Look.

Where is this?

This is the Bay of Antonina. This bay is very beautiful. There is a very cool thing there. We call it the heart of the Atlantic Forest. The largest area of preservation of the Atlantic Forest in South America is in Paraná. It is right on the Serra do Mar,

you leave Curitiba and go down to Serra do Mar, either by train or car. It's surrounded by Atlantic forests, a virgin nature, the most beautiful thing in the world. And there's the Antonina Bay. And you, leaving the boat, there are boat trips, you go to Paranaguá Bay, which is a little further,

which is the same bay, but we divide it because of the cities. And then you go Island, you go to the Piece Island, you eat there.

The Piece Island?

The Piece Island. You eat in a restaurant here. You didn't take your kid there, right, Matheus?

No.

You have to go now, in the summer. You see the dolphins. You're eating here, and the dolphins are beautiful. There's a dolphin nursery, where you eat natural oyster. The guy pulls the oyster for you right away. And does it for you right away. It's a wonderful thing. Then you go to Morrete.

Then you go for a walk. It's a city that reminds me a lot of Paraty. Both Antonina and Morrete. You remember how well known Paraty is, right? To compare it to the people who have had the opportunity. It's a very nice city. This is the river in a day that cuts the city in half.

And the guy told the story of this river that I don't know how long, there's an exact date, that the river fills the city and it cleans the waters and the river is clean again.

It's very crazy, man. This river has Boia Cross too. Boia Cross, people too. Boia Crossa, people, goes in a buoy... And it goes down, it's super cool, too. It takes a lot of tourists. Has Homer ever done Boia Crossa? Not yet.

Just lie in the water.

You already have the buoy.

Send it, Homer.

Fabio Nunes is asking here, you defend privatizations,

do you believe that this is still a popular agenda in Brazil or is it worn out? I don't think so. I think more and more people are becoming aware that there is no problem for the private sector to provide services in the public area. This is what Germany did, what Japan did, what the United States did. Any first world country has been doing this for over 50 years. And we were in this discussion, oh, it can't matter if it's public or private. The price has to be fair and the service has to be good. I think Paraná is being a reference for Brazil. We made a series of concessions, privatizations, and Paraná is the state that grows the most with 7% growth, according to the Central Bank.

And it hasn't changed Paraná's life atá, on the contrary, it's only improved. Usually, who defends this issue of not privatizing is the union or the state. There's a lot of that. The Neutrino agency is asking here, I'm from California, I'm from California, and we suffer from a po bridge in Vila Reis. Oh, yeah.

It's simple again.

I'm doing a school in Vila Reis. It's already in the concession. The concession will do this work and it's already in the contract. It's really a problem. I'll do a train there.

Williams Lafinta is asking, we know that the mandatory work on federal highways is from the federal government. Wait, the question jumped here.

But when to duplicate the whole BR-277 highway, will it finally come out of the paper? It has already started. We are going to start the Hirati section, which is already in 277. Only this year there are 70km of duplications. We've already started the north border of Curitiba, which is part of this same highway integration. The duplication of 277 in the direction of Hirati and Guarapuava. So the contract is already valid and the construction is already starting.

Vandréia Cardoso sent an explanation about the mosquito factory. The biofactory in the world of Aedes aegypti, inaugurated in the Paraná government's health technology park. Ministry of Health, Afilprus, Institute of Molecular Biology of Paraná, Teopras, Uolbitudo Brasil. That's great. I confess I didn't see this news.

Very good.

I have a cousin whose nickname is Long Legs. She only stops sucking on the slap. Speaking of mosquitoes, this subject fits, right?

Right.

Sofia Ribeiro, she asked, if you were president today, what would be your first step to Brazil?

First step to Brazil? I would cut from 38 ministries to 20. I would start by drying the machine. Paulo Andrague asked a question to Matheus Ceará Oops! He asked if the governor would become president, what would be the first joke you would make for him? Go slow!

Now, look at this!

Spending thousands of jokes in his head!

No, no, go slow, Matheus!

I don't know, I would say something like, the beard comes out, the rats party...

No, are you crazy? Matheus, I think I said something like, the beard comes out and the rats party. No, are you crazy?

I'm a book. No, I don't know.

I don't know. I make so many jokes. Dude, this thing of jokes with politicians is complicated, right, Vilena? Yeah.

Because you make the joke, the comedian makes the joke, he has to make the joke with the one in power.

But it's not your thing.

No, it's not. I like to make jokes. But, of course, in a show, for example, I make jokes. I think that creating a joke out of nowhere is not a simple thing. It's a creative process. And you have to talk about who's there. For example, how am I going to make a joke about the governor of Paraguay? It has to be about you, it doesn't have to be about someone else.

I'm going to make a joke about the president. I always say that Lula can't wash his face in the morning. He doesn't have a finger. How would he wash his hands?

There's a hole.

What the fuck?

He doesn't...

Romer, Romer, Romer, go with a quick question, Romer. Beatriz Falcão is asking, if you weren't a politician, what career would you have pursued?

Do you still think about going back to law school or administration? No, not advocacy because I'm not a lawyer. I studied... I did a tour in a university course. I did two years in the administration public. Then I did journalism, but I ended up studying advertising and advertising.

I think it was easier.

I studied advertising.

But I like it a lot. I worked in communication, which is radio, which I like. I also like rural property, like cattle, agriculture. But I would work in radio, I'm passionate about radio. Luciana Pires asked, as a governor, have you ever faced political crises and denunciations against allies? to I had a heavier weight. And kidney or kidney stone? No, no. Not even hemorrhoids. Nothing.

Zeroed. That's good.

Clean.

And I had my hernia surgery on Friday.

On a disc?

No, on the navel. My navel. My navel. I had two disc fractures. I went to see a surgeon and that's when I started training.

But you don't have to operate? No, because I could strengthen the muscle and the ball Mine has to operate, there's no way

It's a billy call because it's a ball, right? You're with three balls Basically that's it One in the belly How long are you holding on to the thread?

Oh, Homer, send it here

No, man, no

Are you training?

I'm, straightd, right? Yes, straight thread. How long can you hold on to a straight thread?

Aline Martins asked, how do you intend to differentiate yourself from other possible candidates for the center, like Eduardo Leite and Simone Tebet? I think it's not a matter of differentiating. I think it's a matter of helping to collaborate with Brazil. People are still very concerned about voting by person. I think we have to vote by purpose and project. I will try to differentiate myself by presenting what, if necessary, I would also be. You have to present yourself on top of a country project. It's much bigger than a person. Sometimes the person I like is not as competent. Sometimes the person ends up voting for that candidate who drinks a beer with him at the bar,

but when he's going to play a city concert, he doesn't know how to play. We have to differentiate that. Sometimes the guy I don't like is the guy who is a good manager. We have to learn to deal with that. I think any candidate has to stand out on a proposal.

André Souza is asking, what advice would you give to those who want to get into politics early but without falling into the system's vices?

Look, like everything in life, do what is right. I always say, there was a sentence that my father always said when he was a kid to me, look, the right doesn't go wrong, and wrong doesn't work out. So do the right thing, because it won't go wrong. It's very simple. I think that, like everything in life,

that you have to do it seriously, be it in your work, at home, in your leisure time, in politics it can't be different. It's not because it's politics're going to do something wrong. So I think we just have to do the right thing. Marcão Pio wrote here, about the closure of the last schools, APAI in Paraná,

are there still chances of the institutions being excluded from all special needs for children? No, and this is not a proposal of the state government. This is a discussion that was held by the federal government to put APAI students in conventional schools, which I am against, I think APAI students

should be treated as special schools, because there is another methodology, another pedagogical approach, there is a whole structure. In the state, we invest around half a billion per year in special education,

which is mostly AP APAES. And I had the honor of being the first governor in history of Paraná to build schools for APAES, which were usually funded by the parents, by society. We have more than six schools that are being built for APAES, all adapted, modernized, because I obviously Because I defend that children from the father's family need to have a different treatment,

and a special pedagogy.

Renata Moreira is asking here, how would you answer to someone who says

that your career only started because of your father's influence? Which is true. In the beginning, no one knew me. I was elected because of him. I said in the beginning, 99% of people voted for me because they liked him.

And then I had to have...

You had to give something. ...competence to...

It shows that...

How many artists we saw enter politics and it didn't work out? The son of an artist, the relative of an artist, a football player. What do you call me to be a congressman? Because you're popular, you're well known. The whole election calls me to be a congressman.

You don't want to be a congressman? I don't want to.

You won't.

You're making more money as an artist. I don't know, Vivela. I don't know. You can't last a week in there. I don't know. I know how to deal with people.

It's different.

Talking to people, taking pictures and stuff. But it's a responsibility. It's not easy to legislate. You're responsible for their vote. It's not simple. But they call me every time. It's very vote. It's not simple. But every time she calls me.

I think it's very popular.

Natural. Homer, last question. Choose wisely.

Joe Bragini is asking the governor what is the success of the military civic schools? Man, this is crazy. It's a fever. Today, Paraná has 312, I'm going to 360 next year. Military school. And with detail, it's not me who imposes the military school.

Who votes is the parents and the teachers. If the school should be or not the military school. If you have the volume of young people and fathers wanting to put their children in a military school and teachers asking to change to a military school service is a madness, I like the system because I think it brings discipline to the young and today with the time of the father and mother working not having much sometimes the day to day to take care of the

disciplinary part of the child because father and mother when they are up there, slap in the ear, those things like any other child. At least my upbringing was very rigid.

Pushing the door.

Yes. And today parents don't have the time to be on top, to stop the child, or to take responsibility. And the school ended up assuming, in a way, this discipl this role. And the volume today of parents wanting to put their children, because they are seeing their neighbor's children having a change of behavior for the better, it's an absurd business, besides IDEB, right?

The IDEB of the military civic are usually the ones at the top of the ranking. So what did I do in Paraná? The father who wants to put his child in a conventional school has a conventional school. The father who wants to put his child in an integral school has an integral school. And if the father wants to put his child in a civil military school, he has. It's democracy. The father, the mother, the student and the teachers choose.

And today we have a huge volume of requests. It's huge. All the states together don't give the same amount of schools as Paraná. It's crazy. It's a successful case. Thank you so much, Governor. But you're not free because when the first guest comes, he answers three questions in the end. So thank you, your team, the people who are here with us until now.

If you didn't like it now, it's time, right?

That's it.

So let's go to the final three questions. The first question is, what was the most difficult moment in your career or in your life, Governor? My career was... Without a doubt, the moment... COVID was... The moment of...

Being a governor in COVID was a huge challenge. Because you had to make the best decisions, build a war structure to serve the population day and night, deal with social media, because everyone thought they knew everything, and no one knew anything, because it had never existed in the world

Yeah, first experience

And you had to be a little psychologist I asked a lot of friends of mine to work by my side A lot of people working by my side And I came as a secretary crying, not holding back Pressure, black people calling, mayor crying, not holding back So you had to be a little psychologist

So it was a challenge, a big challenge, and I think that I will face anything else with a lot of tranquility.

And in your personal life?

I think that when you lose someone you love, it's a difficult moment for everyone. I would like to know, I don't know if you were told, as a politician you should know, I tell him and you tell me. We're going to die one day, you know that. Yeah, I want... I want... but my prognosis is 150 years. I also agree, I agree. I close this one. 150 for me is good too.

They say that if you have artificial intelligence, now who spends the next 10, 15 years is 100 years up, right?

It's 100 years up.

The thing is to hold on for 10 years. And prostate exam daily Ok Daily? No

No, I don't close it

Once a year? Per month To close in a month Ok

But we will die one day But this show will stay a little longer here on earth than we do So send a message to the future To 200, 300 years in the future, whoever is watching this video What would be your last words, Ratinho? What is your epitaph? my last words when I'm dying

like I'm not dead to I'm out Run, crazy I don't know, I put it on the laptop This guy was good He did his part

And what is your current doubt? What do you get thinking before going to bed? A doubt you have today In the day

I think the doubt is the election issue Next year It's a doubt, there's year. It's a big decision that influences not only my life, but my family's life, my professional life. I think this thought of what should happen in the future, what decision should be taken, is something that I reflect on.

Exactly. And the candidate is going to be, I reflect on that. Exactly.

And the candidate is already invited. Thank you, I make the point. The candidates were here in the last presidential election and you are already invited. Thank you for the opportunity, we know how successful your podcast is.

Thank you so much.

You are a great reference today in this new way of communicating that the world has. I'm happy to be here with this guest, Matheus, who I learned to like because my dad likes him.

Yeah.

My God, I was already a fan as a comedian, but in my day-to-day life... Alex said your dad is watching too, so send a hug to Ratinho. He's been invited for a long time to come here, Ratinho, he's been invited for a while here in Ratinho. They're complaining that you didn't come, dad. Yeah, come here. They've been inviting you for a while.

I'm only going on Good Show, right?

Good Show!

I'm only going on Good Show! Come here, there's a good coffee, and we'll tell the whole story. There must be a lot of funny stories. There is, there you a story. Tell this one, then he'll tell his version. My father always worked with theater, he'd put together a little piece of stuff, he'd put a camera in it and I'd put together his show.

All my life. A fighter. I'm very proud of him. And he started with theater, and making a stage, and he had no money, he was dead. We lived, me, my mom, my two little brothers, they were little, they were about 3 years old, twins,

and my aunt Marcia, that aunt I told you about at the beginning of the show, we went to live with her, she lives with us until today. But it was a two-room house, everyone lived in a pile, and then my dad, my aunt day came, like 6pm, my mom was like... I remember it like it was today. Nothing against dwarves, ok? So it doesn't seem like we're discriminating, but it's a curious thing, right? My dad arrived with two dwarves inside the house, with suitcases, and the dwarves with suitcases,

and they came with backpacks, suitcases...

To live!

To live! They stayed 3 or 4 months inside the house. Bro... Because my dad invented a theater that had dwarves in it. In the house, in the company. In the theater company, man. And where were the dwarves going to live? I don't know where he brought the dwarves from.

If he brought them from the countryside, from São Paulo. I don't know. He took two dwarves. And they lived with you. I was going to die, right? We didn't even have space for us. You were going to get slapped, right? I'm glad I was small and put it in the living room. I threw a mattress there.

Swallow fire.

Swallow fire.

Swallow sword. Man, living in this guy's house must be funny, right?

It must be very crazy.

Very crazy. No, the couch, the television, I took everything away to make the scenery. Really? Where's the TV? It's on the stage, on the stage. Thank you so much, Tomas.

Thank you, thank you, William.

Good luck to you.

Thank you, congratulations.

Thank you to everyone who followed us. Vilela, I wanted to thank you for inviting us to come here and say that if you want to follow our new project, Bianca and my project, which is Olha Onde Vamos,

we've been traveling to Chile recently. Where? In Santiago. And we did... Go to Atacama. Atacama, we're going.

So call me, I'll go with you.

We're going together?

Let's go.

Let's do a show one day talking about trips?

Let's go.

Trips you've already done, trips we're doing.

Let's go.

There's San Pietro in Chile, which is cool to go with the kids. and climb a volcano. You like volcanoes, it's giving a lot of energy. Yeah, but it's good. You know a lot of places.

I want you to know some places too.

Let me have my Instagram, Vilela. Ratinho, underline, JR is my Instagram. For those who want to follow our work, get to know Paraná better. I share a lot of things about our tourism. It's a pleasure.

If you need support, everyone is putting Ratinho Presidente here, right? Kindness, thank you. People are wanting it. Thank you to those who are cheering. So it's right. Thank you so much, thank you. Romero, it's time to shine, man. What do you have to say now?

Thank our partner, Estratégia. Estratégia Contest, so the link is in the description, click on the screen to download the ebook How to pass the public contest in three steps, right?

That's it!

And you who didn't like it in the beginning, you're looking for it, give it a like now! On TV too! Are you watching on TV? You can give it a like! Subscribe and now you have a mission! What do people write in the comments to prove that you got to the end of this trip. Be careful, because Matheus Ceará said a lot of things that you can't write.

What do you write?

Let's put something there, throw the deck, huh?

Throwing the deck.

A good tip, a good thing. I think it's better, I think it's better. 60 cm deck. 60 cm deck.

Write, put 60 cm deck, huh?

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