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REPORT: Prince Harry WILL Return to the UK Without Meghan For MINOR ROLE | Sussex Ally FINALLY FLIPS

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Charles has made it very clear that he wants Harry back.You know, we saw it in Harry's book.Don't make my life a misery, don't make my final years a misery, boys.Charles's dearest wish is to be reconciled with his son.That is it.Charles is a massive romantic.

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Hi all, Kinsey Schofield here, and welcome to Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered.This week, helping me tackle all the biggest headlines is the Royalists.Tom Sykes, thank you so much for being here.So the Royalists, if anyone's unfamiliar, although I know my audience loves you, available on Substack and YouTube.Are those your favorite outlets to spill the tea?

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Yeah, I think Substack, The Royalist and YouTube, The Royalist channel.That's where you'll find me, Kinsey.

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I love it.OK, and you had a great scoop about really what the heck is the World Health Organization doing, fixating with Meghan Markle on social media and children, you know, this project she had in Geneva, when the reality is we've got a new Ebola outbreak that's actually quite frightening.It's one of those common sense headlines that when I read it, I thought, how did we not talk about this a week ago?How did this get on your radar?And what can you tell me?

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So I went to Geneva to when Megan was out there.It was really interesting thing to go to.I mean, I was the only foreign journalist who traveled out there.It was very sparsely attended.You know, Megan gave this very self -serving and sanctimonious kind of speech, frankly, about, you know, how we needed to protect kids from social media.literally 12 hours after she'd posted a picture of her own child on social media, make of that what you will.

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But the thingwas really interested in when I was out there was I was talking to all these sort of NGO type people and charities, because Geneva is like the weirdest city.It's completely, it's like a company town of like international NGO land.You know, it's like everybody works for either a charity, an NGO, the UN, like one of these kind of massive kind of frankly, unaccountable, you know, bodies of people who sort of appointed themselves, you know, literally 25 year old kids running kind of, you know, with extraordinary power.

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Yeah.

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And, but of course, all of those bodies and organisations have seen massive budget cuts.Because of course, it started with the USA, there were major cuts from the US administration.But then a lot of other countries, frankly, took the opportunity to pile in.And so all of these companies, all of these NGOs and charities are all being cut.And so I was talking to someone, I was like, why is the World Health, I thought the World Health Organisation was like, contagious disease.

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Yeah.

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No, I thought it all like vaccines or like, I didn't think it was like social media.I mean, it seems like if you start saying that the World Health Organization is about social media because social media, well, I mean, in that sense, everything is about health.Are they going to be doing housing?

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Yeah.

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So it just seemed kind of weird to me.And I got chatting to and I was chatting to and what a lot of people.Sorry.So to get to the point, What a lot of people said to me was that because of all the cuts in all these organizations, a lot of these organizations are trying to grab territory of other organizations.So they're trying to claim and stake out bits of ground that may bethey wouldn't have been so associated with before and to kind of say, look, we can do this as well.

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So keep giving us the money.And this seemed to me like an incredibly obvious example of that.I'm like, why is the World Health Organization getting involved in social media?And Oddly, the day I was there, these news reports started to appear about this terrible Ebola epidemic, which is now sweeping through southern Africa.

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It's unreal.I mean, I was wondering too, when I was reading this piece, Why Megan and Harry?I mean, to your point, I think the first time as an adult, the World Health Organization was on my radar was during the coronavirus.And we're hearing every day it was new advice from the World Health Organization.They're the authority.You know, it's all about following their direction.

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And then I think maybe the first time they worked together correct me if I'm wrong, was when Harry and Meghan did an event in New York about vaccine distribution and how there should be equality when it comes to vaccine distribution.Meghan was wearing that white dress, and they were on a stage talking.I believe that's the first time we saw them collaborate.The World Health Organization, to me, is supposed to be this credible source, so I don't know why they would go or why the Duke and Duchess would appeal to them when they really aren't credible in any sense.Okay, Harry and Invictus, Harry and Veterans, that's a credible space.I will give him that.

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But Travelists, there's been the hypocrisy about them jumping on private jets.Children andprivacy.You just mentioned Lily's upload, the pictures of Lily uploaded hours before that.Megan tearing down AI after being in Australia and promoting this new AI app that she has invested in.What's in it for the World Health Organization to be associated with these people?

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And in a way, depending on how invested you are in them, giving them credibility.

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Well, I think that, look, it's a pretty dry and dusty town, Geneva.Do you know what I mean?There's not a lot of stardust, and there's not a lot of glamour.So I think in one sense, they'll take what they can get.And they could, this is what they could get to sort of, and What's quite interesting about it is that they're trying to also, it was the beginning of the thing called World Health Awareness Week or something where all the health ministers fly into Geneva basically from massive freebies as far as I could tell to talk about stuff.I don't know why they can't just send a few memos or have a Zoom like the rest of the world.

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But, you know, they do.And so it's supposed to get people to come, I suppose, you know.And then, of course, we saw this Finnish health minister.I mean, this shows you the kind of zedlessness of the whole thing, that we had this kind of Finnish health minister who turned out to be a sort of vile misogynist and literally accused of sex crimes.

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And racism.And racism.

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posing for a selfie, well, Megan allowing him to take a selfie with her.So, you know, but the whole thing is Kinsey, right?It's like organising a foreign tour for a member of the royal family is really, really difficult.It needs absolutely massive organisation.you need massive levels of vetting.And you need like real local power, because you need to be able to say, well, who is coming to this dinner, you know, and we need to vet every it's not enough to just say, the World Health Organization's invited them.

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And therefore, that's the end of our responsibility, because then you end up with this image of her with this guy, Willie Ryland.And, you know, You know, that's the story, right?That is the story.She is posing next to a guy who is called, you know, women and Muslims terms that I literally I wouldn't repeat even in my sub stack.I was I'm not I'm not going to write them down.It's just offensive.

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You know, I mean, it's upsetting to people.And so I think that the whole problem with the whole Geneva chip is a microcosm.of like everything that's gone wrong with like the whole operation, isn't it?Because it's like real confusion about what you are.Are you like a crowd pleaser?Are you like a deep thinker?

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Are you like a political this?Who are you?What is your brand?What are you trying to structure yourself as?And, but most importantly, there's like, there's no sort of heft to back it up.There's no, there's no infrastructure to back it up anymore.

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We know the whole thing's collapsed.We know they've got no staff left.We know the charities have been shut down.We know that the production company is basically just a, you know, what I believe in your town, they call a label.

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Yeah.

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Which just kind of, you know, slaps, slaps their label onto other people's projects.So it was really interesting.I felt and it wasn't particularly why I went.I just went because I hadn't seen her for a while in person.And I thought it'd be good to see, you know, these people that I write about my whole life.I do like to try and get to see them occasionally.

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And so that's why I went.I wasn't anticipating it really to be such a disaster.as it was.I mean, the one very good sign of what a disaster and how low rent and low impact the whole thing was, was that one stage, a member of her staff was boasting to me that she was having a bilateral.And I was like, well, who's she having a bilateral with?Turns out it was the Brazilian Minister for Health.

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I mean, it's just, it's laughable.I mean, You know, I was telling a journalist about it later and the journalist said, well, which one?

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Yeah, no, exactly.Well, I did see that a rep for the Sussexes kind of came for you, dismissing the criticism, arguing understandably, vetting the background of every person who asks for a selfie is not possible.But to your point, You know, it is if there are 25 to 30 people in a room with Megan, that's 25 to 30 Google searches.You know, your your team should be doing.And this is not the first time it happened.It happened in Nigeria with the person that was kicked out of the United States for fraud.

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Harry's pictured next to him.I think even Harry used his private plane or private jet at the time.But this is like a reoccurring nightmare for them where in Jordan, where they're photographed with these people that had pro -Hamas propaganda all over their social media.It is an example of these people trying to do a job that they're not necessarily equipped for.Do your due diligence and be more strategic in the people you associate with.Otherwise, we're going to call you out for it.

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And I think that that's fair because you wouldn't see the Princess of Wales or Prince William.I mean, Prince William, when he's engaging with that podcast, that football podcast, he clearly knows who those men are.You feel like he's comfortable when he's talking.I read your article earlier today, but they do seem to be much more careful with who they're focusing on.or who they're seen engaging with.And, you know, that helps protect their credibility and their authority.

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Yes, exactly.And the reality is, is that they just don't have the infrastructure.They don't have the staff.They don't have the manpower.I mean, we saw when they went to Australia, it was unbelievable.I mean, the woman, you know, in Australia, who was responsible, Gemma I've forgotten her last name now, but you know, who organized the besties podcast.

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I mean, literally she was there going, Oh yeah, this all came about because Marcus Anderson texted me from their kitchen.I mean, if that's honestly, if that's honestly the extent, Marcus Anderson, as I understand, doesn't even work for them.Why the heck is Marcus Anderson putting together a tour of Australia for the Duchess of Sussex.I mean, it's so sort of low rent and rubbish and cheapskate.And, you know, the problem is to do these things properly is really difficult.There's an amazing old film that was made probably long before you were even born, Kinsey, about Prince Charles with Jonathan Dimbleby.

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And it's brilliant to watch.It's only an hour and it's on YouTube.And it was made whatever 30 years ago.And it has this really interesting scene where because it's all set around a tour to Australia and they're planning the tour to Australia and you see the planning going up to it's happening like a year in advance, six months in advance, it's like a full -time staff of people, you know, but then the other thing is that on the ground there is thousands of volunteers, right, who love the Royal Family, who want to help, who'll be like, you know, actually, do you know what, maybe this person shouldn't come because they've said some weird things.stuff, you know, in the past, like, you know, just to play it safe, let's maybe not invite them, you know, and, and, and the Sussexes, because they have just literally spent this past six years, just throwing rocks at the royal family, guess what, those people don't want to help, don't want to cooperate.So instead, you're left with like, literally, literally, Dr. Tedros from the World Health Organization, you know, going come to Geneva, when in fact, frankly, the World Health Organization is now totally on the back foot, totally caught out.

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And I'm not saying the World Health Organization can only do one thing at one time, right?Obviously, it can deal with a vaccination drive in X, and there's something here and, you know, Ebola in Southern Africa.But it just, I think it just makes you wonder if they're going to put all this energy into like social media, it's like completely to me.And I use the word carefully because I know it drives people mad, but it is a kind of mad wokery of like, oh, my God, social media is now a health matter.It's like I understand the point.Right.

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But it's not like, you know, the reason that I'm I'm I'm I'm in I support bodies like the World Health Organization.The reason I'm happy for like one tiny bit of my tax dollars to go to the World Health Organization is because they're going to stop Ebola getting to London or New York.I mean, I thought that was what they were there for.

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No, no.I mean, I think it's about social media.I totally get your point.And I think that there is it's even heightened today because covid was not so far away.We remember being stuck in our houses.We remember being scared.

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And so we do want the focus to be on something that might.Yeah.

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But can I tell you something really interesting?about so I was actually talking to, again, some people when I was in Geneva.World Health Organization totally tried to get involved in the kind of COVID response.And what people, a lot of people within the organizations and those structures felt was that the World Health Organization would be brilliant at helping do vaccinations, again, in, you know, the less developed economic nations, but in America in the United Kingdom, in Europe, in Australia.Guess what?The market sorted it out really quickly.

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You don't need the World Health Organization.That's the whole point.Like the World Health Organization is, yes, it is for the world, but let's be honest, it's to help poorer parts of the world, like get access to mass life -saving interventions that are going to have like a tangible result, like, you know, malaria, not like staying off your phone.

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Yeah, no, that's so wild.Let's pivot to another story because I was caught off guard by this.Dan Wakeford, he's the former editor of People and Us Weekly, was heavily involved in publishing some of Meghan's biggest PR counter offenses through aides and friends during his time at both of those outlets.But in a recent edition of his Celebrity Intelligence newsletter, Wakeford claims that Harry and Meghan are unhappy and burning through money at an unsustainable rate, with a significant lifestyle downgrade potentially looming within the next five years.The report is that based on conversations with five anonymous sources, Dan felt confident enough in sharing this in classic H &M reaction.Reacting too much, I'd argue.

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sometimes never complain, never explain is a benefit to you.They told Newsweek the unnamed sources once again doing a lot of heavy lifting in this report.If they had any faith or evidence to back up what they allege, I don't understand why they wouldn't just go on the record with such claims.Still, I suppose it makes writing a lot easier for Mr. Wakeford when you don't have an editor standing over you asking you for evidence or for anything to stand it up.I mean, I remember when the Hollywood Reporter wrote their article and then all of a sudden Us Weekly had all of these glowing testimonials from current employees.And we were like, you're going to try to fight the Hollywood Reporter with Us Weekly.

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Dan really has been an ally.And to see a pivot like this, it does surprise me.What what's your take, Tom?Because I know you've been watching the chaos, too.

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Yeah, I thought it was a really interesting piece.And actually, funnily enough, when I was I sort of I didn't really know Dan, but we were definitely around the same era of the British tabloids because he's British.So he would have started on like The Sun and stuff like that in the UK.And I I thought, so I thought it was absolutely, I was fascinated that he, of all people, had turned on the Sussexes.I thought it was absolutely extraordinary because, yeah, he was totally, you know, for completely understandable commercial reasons when he was the editor of People and Us Weekly.He was putting all these stories in, five friends say Megan's the most lovely person in the world, former staff say she makes them feel like flowers being watered.

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I mean, you couldn't make it up.Do you know what I mean?It was incredible, incredible stuff.And so, yeah, what, you know, I thought it was fascinating that he decided to turn it, and of course it was, you know,Look, there was stuff in there that's been widely reported elsewhere.So I don't think that there's any serious question marks over what he reported.

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Alison Boshoff did a piece, you know, on very much the same theme.What I think is, and to be honest, Kinsey, right, you only have to look at Harry when he's out and about to see that he's a pretty unhappy fella right now.

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Strain, stress, yeah.

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And I don't think that, frankly, you could say that, you know, when he left, when they left the United Kingdom, six years ago, this was the plan, you know, sort of failed deal with Netflix, everybody hating you and being a kind of laughingstock and being a social media influencer, basically, like that, that, as I recall, was not the plan, right?The plan was this whole new model of service, they were going to show the Queen didn't have any idea about service, they were going to show her how it was done.And, you know, and so, yeah, I think that the, The tension in the relationship as played out on the social media use of the children, I find absolutely fascinating as well.

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Right.Because Harry keeps arguing that they need taxpayer funded security and you're sitting back looking at Megan dripping in gold, posting pictures of her closet, posting pictures of her children, saying, are you not increasing the odds of somebody targeting you by putting your wealth and your children and your home on full display?I mean, we got that with the tour of the Olive Garden Kitchen on the anniversary.We got to see it on full display.And it does seem like it totally contradicts what Harry's trying to convince the court.of, that he needs protection and that they're in more danger than we could ever imagine.

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If I feel like I'm in danger, I shut down.I'm not posting things that might give away my location on social media.I'm not wearing a ton of expensive jewelry.I just, I behave in a much different way.than Meghan Markle does.I also thought it was like a hoot when I read this article in Newsweek because it's like why this matters.

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Dan Wakeford was, you know, an ally to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.And I was like, Jack Royston, so were you.It's like Jack Royston bought meat kettle.It was fascinating for me because Jack used to write a ton of pro Sussex articles.And he has had a pivot in the last two or three years as well.But it's fun to see people kind of wake up to the nonsense because when Megan was in Geneva and the reason why I loved your coverage and it was obviously you you are the the credible one because you are physically there but you could see.

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the Sussex machine in motion, because I found at least five headlines that say Meghan Markle delivers powerful speech.It was just a copy and paste, a copy and paste that they'd received that probably from the Sussex team.And they were just lazy and throwing that headline up there.Powerful, powerful.You know, there's the same word used over and over again.And then I go to your coverage and you're like, no one's here.

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I'm lonely.So it is nice to see when people actually break free, because Harry and Meghan still have a hold on a lot of these outlets.I mean, don't you agree that there are still some and that maybe it's because they like the access they get to them?But I can't take People magazine seriously anymore.Sorry, not sorry.

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23:04

I think.that as journalists, I think it's incredibly important to remember that your job is not to have an, you can have an opinion and you can write an opinion piece, but your job is not to take sides.Your job is to go and have a look and write down what you see, or go and have a talk to somebody and try and figure out whether they're telling you the truth or whether they're trying to soft soap you.So, At the end of the day, turning up to something is always the best way to see what's really going on.And what I would say about Megan is that she is a very, very competent performer.Right.

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She could deliver that speech.She could hit her points like she looked the part, you know, the hair.It was all it was perfectly framed.It was perfectly structured.It was exactly the photo that she wanted her next to Dr. Tedros, you know, with looking serious face on, et cetera, et cetera, looking like, you know, but like her team were blatantly trying to say that.it was, you know, that she was sort of much more credible than Catherine, because Catherine was just, you know, doing lightweight stuff in Italy.

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But of course, the reality is that they had to close down entire villages in Italy because of the traffic.So, I mean, their own argument kind of rebounds them, because the reality is that people just The interest levels, the enthusiasm levels, the popularity levels have just fallen off a cliff.And really, all they really have left is people criticizing them.

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Right.So do so you think when you do see some of those positive headlines that are written towards them, you're not feeling frustrated that I am?

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Oh, OK. I think that no, I think you're absolutely right.And I think there's a what I'm saying is that I think too many journalists don't bother turning up.and judging themselves, they just take the press releases.But you know, people say, Oh, well, if they say, you know, this or that, why do you bother still writing about them?And I think the reason my sort of view on why people are so fascinated in the sort of fall of the House of Sussex is, it doesn't reflect particularly well on the human heart, but but there's a kind of There's a great concept in Greek tragedy, in Greek tragedy, in Greek drama called the chastisement of hubris, you know, the chastisement of arrogance, the chastisement of...And I think that's why people remain fascinated by this story.

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Why on one hand, they're like, oh, I hate her, I never want to see this sight ever again, I can't bear it.But the other side, we can't help reading about the latest disaster to befall them.And it's because of... what they did to the royal family is because the way they left, saying that they were going to redefine service, that this was going to be a whole new world, and we were just going to get to play in it if we were lucky.And the chastisement of hubris is a, is a, is a, is a, it's, it's, it's entertainment.

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Right.It is entertaining, entertainment, but we also are, we're documenting history and I want to be on the right side of history.And I feel like for the last few years, I've watched Harry and Meghan try to rewrite history.And so in a way, whether it's my place or not, I do feel like I'm trying to hold people accountable that aren't being very honest, because history is important.And these characters, these figures, the royal family is important.And in 200 years from now, I don't want somebody to be reading a history book about what racists the royal family were towards Meghan Markle when I don't think that that was the truth.

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I think it was a game of telephone.And Meghan was super sensitive about somebody just curious as to what the baby would look like.Is it going to have red hair like its father.And so I totally agree with you.But I also feel like the reason why I'm consistent with it is because these people matter and they're going to matter, you know, hundreds of years from now.So I want the story to be correct.

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And I think what's going to be really interesting, you know, that we're starting to see happening now in is this softening up for Harry to come back?And I think that that is happening now.I think it's very, very, you know, there's a phrase in politics and diplomacy that, you know, it's only really worth understanding weak political signals, because anyone can read a strong political signal, right?But if you can read a weak political signal, that's a lot of what you do.And it's a lot of what I do.And it's And I am starting to feel my spidey senses tingling, you know, that there is something going on in terms of Harry coming back to the UK.

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We know he's coming back for the Invictus Games in July.I understand he could be in England for quite a bit longer than just the sort of one day that that event requires.And then we've seen these weird sort of alignment between what Harry is saying and what the King is saying, this thing about anti -Semitism that he'ssaid the other day.I mean, look, there's a reason why Prince Harry is not a leading figure of British Judaism, right?It's because he was photographed in it with the uniforms of Sputnik.

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So it's a bit weird that Harry starts writing that anti -Semitism and even weirder that the day before Charles gives his opening speech in the House of Commons saying we're going to clamp down on anti -Semitism.And the same day, the thing comes out, Charles appears in Golders Green, which is the scene of this terrible, fortunately non -fatal, but horrific anti -Semitic stabbing in London.So, I mean, and as you say, they are important people in the great sweep of history.And people can say that they're not, but actually they are.And if they are in some way restored, which I think they are going to be.I think Harry is going to be given some very, very minor role that unlocks everything, that unlocks the security, that unlocks the ability to live in the UK, that unlocks, you know, a different level of legitimacy.

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If they manage to do that, then they do actually become very important people again.

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Does that concern you?Do you think seeing your audience feedback Do you think, I think my audience would feel betrayed by the British royal family because they have felt so heavily invested in protecting them for the last six years.Do you think that based on your audience, that your audience would feel a similar bit of betrayal.My audience has no desire for there to be a royal reunion.They feel like Harry's made his bed.He should lie in it.

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And I do see a lot of the things that you've mentioned.However, I feel like every time Harry takes two steps forward, Meghan does something that throws him six steps back.I you know why are you it sounds silly but the scone video hours after Prince William says he his preference or mentions the Queen's scone preference.It just feels like Megan is in a one -way one way war with this family.Harry probably has much more of a desire to reunite because he's not used to being alienated from members of his family.Meghan Markle is.

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This is this is her reality.You know, like she she might feel more comfortable in that environment than he does.

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Well, I think first of all, I think my audience like yours would be, you know, pretty horrified apparently comes back, but let's forget, not forget.I mean, it didn't stop Charles with Camilla.Right.And in the end he won that battle.

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Yeah.

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Like, you know, he, he got there.So he may feel that actually being the King and, you know, the power that the monarchy has over domestic opinion, that domestic, and remember, they don't care about international opinion.I remember literally sitting down with the very senior advisors.I was like, you know, I can't remember what it was about.I was like, you know, the Americans are really, and they're like, that absolutely doesn't bother us.They are not our target market.

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31:55

You know, we are, we are about representing the United, what we care about is the United Kingdom, that those are the people who pay their taxes.So, and I think there is a slightly, I wouldn't say very, but I think there's a slightly more indulgent feeling towards Harry in the United Kingdom than there is internationally.I think people still feel, you know, we still remember those horrible pictures of him walking behind his mother's coffin.And I think like William said himself, you know, I've always wanted to put my arm around, I've always been able to put my arm around my brother.I think there is a bit, a little bit left of British opinion, which still wants toput its arm around Harry.

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Very different internationally, where people feel very different.And I think that the broader point that the vast sweep of people would be horrified and outraged and really upset with that is absolutely, you know, I would absolutely concur with that.But I think that As you say, Megan clearly has no interest in coming back.So what does that mean?Does that mean that we have Harry back on his own?What does that mean?

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You know, we know that they want the kids educated in the UK.I mean, it's it's very, there are a lot of obstacles and a lot of hurdles to cross.But I, as a, as a as a, from a purely journalistic angle.I mean, imagine if Harry comes back, it's going to be like, from a story point of view, it's going to be unbelievable.Like, look at the other day, this thing where William gives an interview to Heart Radio and instantly Harry's dropping a statement to GB News.Well, imagine if Harry was in England able to do that.

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It's like it's such a Pandora's box.I think that people will be absolutely outraged by it.I genuinely think they will.And I think that is the decision that Charles has to make, you know, because he's been it's like he's been running up the flagpole to see how it will go down, you know, by doing these things where they're aligned, whether it's Ukraine or antisemitism or, you know, there was another one recently, I can't remember what it was, but is it going to happen?That's the question.Who knows?

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Personally, I think it is.And I'm here for it.I'm bringing the popcorn.

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You're bringing the popcorn for sure.Let me ask you, do you not at all think because as on my side of the pond, I look at some of these things, Ukraine specifically, I was like, what the hell are you doing?Your dad's about to meet with Donald Trump.Your dad has the most important role of his life in navigating this minefield between Kirstein and President Trump.And you're interrupting or you're distracting from this huge mission.And then when I saw the anti -Semitism op -ed, I thought, Where the hell is this coming from?

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Who the hell are you?So I look at these things and I think he's trying to distract from the work of the royal family or rebrand himself.Can I ask you why specifically you look at that and you don't see something similar?Why is it Yvette Cooper's relationship with both of the men?What is it about his movements that make you feel like it is a collaboration versus it's an operation to distract.

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Okay.So it's a really, really good point.And initially I totally thought the same with the Ukraine thing.I thought what awful thing to do three days before your dad goes to America to start mouthing off about all this stuff.But there were a couple of things about it that I found really odd.First of all, There was absolutely no criticism of it in the United Kingdom papers, right, in the legacy media, in the Mail, the Telegraph, the Times, all those papers, right, where it'd be incredibly easy for the King's press office to drop a word in someone's ear and say, hmm, have a look at this.

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Like, it's pretty outrageous.So that was one thing that I found odd.I was like, why am I the only person who thinks this is like strange and bizarre?

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Yeah.

36:29

Yeah.Like an unhelpful.Then Charles, so Charles obviously then goes to America and says pretty much the same kinds of things that Harry was saying in Ukraine, right, in a much more diplomatic terms.But, you know, actually, when you read back the speech, although it was great speech, I'm not taking anything away from it.When you read back, it's actually very aligned with what Harry was saying, including the Budapest memorandum stuff, right, which is kind of weirdly specific.OK, the other thing is that it just got me It got me thinking, were they, if, right, after Harry said the thing, do you remember Donald Trump said, well, Prince Harry doesn't speak for the United Kingdom, you know, I think I speak for him on that.

37:22

I think that's what Donald Trump was told by his staff when his staff rang up and said, hey, what's going on here?Why is Prince Harry doing this?I think they said, don't worry, Prince Harry doesn't speak for the United Kingdom.And they told him, don't worry, Prince Harry.But it was interesting, wasn't it, that Donald Trump didn't kind of explode, like they didn't kind of remonstrate and say this is outrageous.And so I think in a sense, it was a way to run these ideas up the flagpole five days before and just check that Donald Trump wasn't going to have a massive nuclear meltdown and write 15 posts on Truth Social about what an idiot Prince Harry was.

38:01

And look, when it was just that, I did, to be honest, initially, I just thought, Yeah, it is what it is.But when we had the antisemitism as well, I just thought they've clearly planned this.They're clearly in cahoots.They are clearly, they're saying exactly the same thing on exactly the same day.I mean, I asked, you know, for official comment on this.And I was told no, no, you know, not at all.

38:27

It's just a coincidence.Well, it's a pretty big coincidence.And it's actually two pretty big coincidences.And you know what they say about coincidences, Kinty, don't you?

38:36

Yeah, I, but I, I Would Harry, could Harry have a mole inside of King Charles's team that would be helping him with some of these talking points so that he looks more royal?

38:51

He doesn't need a mole.He doesn't need a mole because they share diaries.Right.You know, they share diaries.Yeah.So, yeah, we we we know we know that Harry knew the gold is green thing, although it wasn't announced publicly for you know, until after it happened, obviously, for security reasons, given the context of the place he was visiting, it had been briefed out to the UK press at least four or five days before.

39:19

So, you know, it was clearly in the diary, it was in what they call the matrix, which is the big, you know, block that they have with what everyone's doing on every single day.And they share that with Harry, and Harry shares his diary with the King.So he doesn't need a mole, Kinsey, he's being told.

39:35

Oh, my gosh, just me over here stressing that we're going to have all of our audiences just absolutely livid if we're going live to report that Harry, Meghan or Harry and Meghan have been given a new assignment, some random assignment that legitimizes them.I don't even want to see the comment section that day.

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39:53

Tom, I'm scared for us.Honestly, Kinsey, I think that I think that Charles has made it very clear that he wants Harry back.You know, we saw it in Harry's book.Don't make my life a misery, but don't make my final years a misery, boys.Charles's dearest wish is to be reconciled with his son.That is it.

40:13

Charles is a massive romantic.He's like, you know, he's a real kind of like, he's very different to William.Like, William'sis completely Elizabeth II.He was, you know, did all his King lessons with Elizabeth II when he was at school at Eton.Like Elizabeth II is very kind of, just cold, frankly.

40:33

She was cold about personal things.She was incredibly, you know, weirdly kind of emotional about like animals and stuff like that.But she was.

40:40

I think I'm like that, too.Dog, human.Well, let me let me ask you this, because I've heard that Prince William still has no desire to have a relationship with his brother.So are my sources off there?

40:58

Your sources are absolutely correct in that.I mean, William, I'm told, you know, F word hates Harry.Yeah.You know, absolutely.

41:06

Yeah.Yeah.

41:07

And and and and blames him for, you know, at the least aggravating Catherine's health situation.You know, stress is not good for cancer.Right.

41:19

Right.Right.Absolutely.Oh, my gosh, Tom.I had no idea I was going to have so much fun talking to you today.I'm like, I'm looking at the clock going, I've got to let you go, but I've had so much fun.

41:31

We talked about a million things I didn't prep you for.So thanks for going there with me without hesitation.And thanks for hanging out with me today.This was the most fun.

41:43

Thank you so much, Kinsey.It's great to be here.

41:45

All right.So the Royalist Substack YouTube, I'll link down below.And thanks so much again.Agree with us.Disagree with us.I know you guys are going to have opinions on this jet.

41:55

Let us know in the comments below.Make sure you like subscribe and share this video with a friend.I look forward to talking to you again very soon, Tom.

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