Roy Questions Bruno’s Assists, Salah vs Slot, Alonso Joins Chelsea | Stick to Football EP 130

Chill!

Do you like it?

Chill's been promoted!Yeah, it looks really good.

I'm thinking again, McLaren, you look great.I love that cardigan.

The vibe in the background was getting rid of you, not moving you up.I love that jacket.

Roy keeps saying you're getting rid of us.

No, I didn't.That was the noise in the background from people over there.I said, keep her on.

When Roy gets back at 12 o 'clock at night and comes in early in the morning, there's only one outcome.There's going to be disruption.

That's Phil's leaving.

I know, good.

No.You did have a long day yesterday, though, didn't you?

I was surprised to see you in the studio, Roy, I have to say.When I got there at half to 11, I thought, is that Roy?Oh, my goodness.That means he's got up at 6 o 'clock yesterday to get down there early.

You need to put it out there, what am I?Tell people, I am low maintenance.

I am low maintenance.

Low maintenance.

As long as you tell your arrangements early enough.That's pretty important, yeah.

Yeah, but you only have to get up and jump in a car.I, like, drive myself, drive back.You're just sat in the back of a car.

I drive.

Did you drive yesterday?

Not yesterday, no.But usually I drive.

I like driving.Do you still sit in the front?

I sit in the front of cars.

I know, I nearly did that yesterday.

If I get a car, I sit in the front.

Or in the back, yeah, it's not good.

It's not a headrest.Look, because you feel a bit sickly, you just...And sometimes, you know, the other thing is, you get in the back, you feel like the guy in the front's almost like...You feel like he's driving.Just sit with him, you know what I mean?

Oh, what, to keep him company?

Yeah, but then, like...I know, but just sitting with people, just, like, the idea that I'm in the back...

It's just more space, cos my knee needs...I need to stretch my knee.

Yeah.

Sometimes I do.Don't you stretch that in the front?It doesn't look the same.You can fall asleep with someone driving right there.It don't feel the same.

Do you know what annoys me?I get Uber very rarely, but when I do... as it's usually walkplaces, do you know what they do?Do you know when they put all their bags in the front seat?And then they move the seat for us, like, get in the back.And I'm like, no, can I sit in the front, please?And then they look at you like you're an alien.

because basically you want to sit in the front.It's as if they're a bit threatened by it.Maybe they do feel threatened by certain people.

Do you get black cabs?

I get black cabs all the time in London.

Why don't you get them in?When did you get them instead of, like...

Oh, in London?Oh, no.I never get...In London, I always get black cabs.Always.

I once got a black cab from London to Manchester.It was the most uncomfortable journey of my life.I've done that.I've done that.On the back of a van, isn't it?And it was just like this.

No, but sometimes you can get an uncomfortable one.

The new electric ones are smooth, though.

Yeah.

You know, when people say, get them Mercedes vans, they'll find...But you're on the back of a van.

Yeah.It's still a van.Oh, I'd rather get a car.They're better than vans, though.They've got lights, they've got a TV.

It's a van.It's a van.

A man with a van.

A van, but light in it.And the seats are like that, so you're like...Uh -oh.They do go back, though.

You can recline them.No, no, not some of them you can.Yes, you can.There's always a recline, especially that middle seat.

I went in Premium Economy on a flight a couple of weeks ago, and no word of a lie, the difference in cost is, like, 400, 500 quid.And the difference was this.

Oh, that much?

Yeah, like, you get, like, two inches, don't you?That was it?Premium economy.It's like that.Do you know what I mean?It's like that.

400 quid.

Do you feel bad?

There you go.That'll work, won't it?

Why don't you go private?

Look at his face!

Do you feel bad putting your seat back, though?I do.No, you put it back a little bit.Because I feel like the person behind is going to be so annoyed.No, but it goes back to a place where...

No, but if they push theirs back, everyone just goes back.

Yeah, but I did it the other...And I could hear the guy proper like...Because I think I knocked his drink as I went back.Because they shoot back.

You're quite tall, you'd have to put your seat back.

Well, how high are you?How high is you?

Six...

What are you, 6 '2"? Just under 6'. No, I'm like 5 '11".

Is he?Yeah.What are you?You look taller.You look way taller than me.You're not 5 '11", are you? No, he's 5 '9", he's 5 '10".

Easily.presence, but more.See, the presence adds another couple of inches.Stand next to me.I've got quite thick sole...

Wait there, I'll take my shoe off.

No, don't take your...See, Roy's taller than you now.Oh, yeah, you are, Roy.

Yeah.

Are we with shoes on, though?

Maybe I've just got a big presence in.

Big head, is it?

A big head?

Your head's quite big.

I know he's come as far as that.

Your head's quite big?

My head's not that big.

I used to be called Big Head at United when I was younger.

Yeah.

Did you call you Big Head?Yeah, but that's cos you're arrogant.You used to walk past me and go...

Yeah, that wasn't because it says your head, that was your arrogance.Arrogance, yeah.You used to go past me and go, massive, huge.You used to walk past me and go, huge.Big head.Who used to say that?

A lad called George Swinson.

Did I ever bully any young lads?Jill just said it was me.

We don't bully young lads.No.No, no, no.The older lads.I remember the initiation ceremonies.Oh, I didn't like them.

No, you would watch, to be fair, but you would never be involved.I would never get involved.No, you wouldn't get involved in that.It wasn't right.

It depends on what they do to you as well, doesn't it?

It's embarrassing to dance or sing.

Yeah, but you know when I was a manager or when we were early and someone came into the squad and they had to sing, I used to cringe.Oh, I hate that.If I had to go into a team and they said sing, no way would I be singing for anybody.Players have to do a dance or something.Would you say no?

Absolutely.

I wouldn't do it for anybody.Yeah, so what?But they need to know as well that you're not going to be bullied into dancing if you don't want.We covered Ireland.If lads coming to the squad had to go up and sing, I'd be cringing.

I thought you weren't allowed to say no.Like, that's the whole thing about initiation.Yeah.

You just have to do it.

You don't have to.That's my point.

You don't have to do it.Well, not at my time.

We didn't do it at United, did we?

Oh, we used to do it all the time.

In the youth team, we used to either have to sing or tell a joke.Yeah.I remember that.An option.Sing.Stand on the bed.

bed...In front of who?Oh, the first team would come in.I'm talking about the most petrifying thing in the world.

Was there anyone who just smashed it, who was brilliant?Robbie Savage.Was he?

Robbie Savage basically, I think he did both, he did the singing and the joking, he just stayed up there for eight.I think he did a dance with it as well, I think he did a dance with the actual sort of thing.Some lads were just like...Well then some lads, but you've got like, you've got Mark Hughes, I think Brian Robson, Steve Bruce, Cantona, Schmeichel, obviously Roy, all of them in there watching.Imagine singing or telling a joke and you're 16, 17, you've been in United for an hour, you can't play.

One of the young lads had to pretend he got a new skateboard for Christmas and he had to go round the dressing room pretending he had a new skateboard and he was all excited.

He used to have to do writing.He was acting like he got a new skateboard.

Yeah, that was the role he had at the time.

They'd roll the towel up, right, and that was the skateboard, imaginary skateboard, and then you used to have to walk round the room and you used to have to knock on the wall, the players would be sat round in a sort of horseshoe and you used to have to knock on the wall behind one of the first -team players and ask them to come out and play on the skateboard.

Oh, God.Shocking.

And, oh, do you know the...Did you ever get asked?Do you know the cones?This is for the younger lads.Do you know the cones that you do for running?That had to go on your head cos that was the helmet.

With a towel?With a towel, imagine you're on your skateboard under your arm.

Nev couldn't do it cos the cone wasn't big enough.

Oh, my goodness.Oh, that is funny.I used to always do Peter Andre and Mysterious Girl, cos I know the rap.And I went on loan twice in my last...Go on, Jill.

No, you done a rap last week on your own podcast.Come on, Jill.What was that song?

I can't remember.Oh, with Carys?Yeah.That was good.Basically, I went on loan twice, didn't I, in my last two years?So, as an experienced player, going into a dressing room and singing Peter Andre and Mysterious Girl.

But I felt like it would never happen.no.Come on, Jill.

Come on, can you do it, please?

We can put that out.

But they join in then, the other players?

No, I would just be stood there.

Oh, that's horrible when people don't join in.

And then I was like, God, yeah.No, they probably did, anyway.Anyone else got a rap?

No.Oh, but they took to you for that, didn't they?Righty, you've got...You have a song, don't you?

No, I can't remember.Did you have a song?I didn't have a song.I thought we've played it on this show.I know, I just liked it.You played an album.

I took it.You can sing as well.Here I Sing's your favourite.It's covered with a tuxedo and a bow tie.

Do you know what made me laugh?Was it a couple of days ago they posted out the clip about which actor would you be?Denzel.I didn't even think you was doing this.

Denzel.I went to see Michael.You asked me to go and see Michael.Yes.I enjoyed it.

Did you like it?

It was a good movie.Michael Jackson, is it?

You know what I went and saw the other day at the theatre?One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.Is that good, yeah?Oh, yeah.Fantastic, it was in the theatre.The old Vic.

She loved going to them shows in London.Yeah, because my mother -in -law, she works in the theatre and that, but like, honestly...Are we going next weekend?

Are we down in London on the weekend?

It's real, though.It's real because it's happening there live, there's no messing up.Yeah, yeah, of course.It's just brilliant.One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.And who played Jack Nicholson in it?

What's his name?The guy who's...The famous guy, Aaron...It's a black guy.What's his name again?Aaron Pierre.

Good show.Aaron Pierre.

Why is one for the cook?

Remember the Jack Nicholson film?In the mental home?

I haven't seen it.

What they used to do to people, electrocute them.

Have you not seen it?Control them.You've got to watch that.That's got to be in your...That's definitely in my top...One Cluck.

Yeah.Apocalypse Now.

You've got to watch those films.You've got to watch that.

Watch...It's a sad...It's a beautiful film, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, of sadness.Yeah.Of something that really happened.Those things really happened.

I've blasted through a series in the last two weeks.Slow Horses.

Mmm!

Yeah.Watch some of that.

Gary Oldman.

I really liked it.

Magnificent, innit?He's brilliant, yeah.Slow horses is fantastic, yeah.

What's it about?

They're like a...Not slow horses.They're like a...Basically, MI5, but they're the rejects.The horses I bet on.They're rejects of basically...

They're the ones that are kicked out for reasons.MI4.Yeah, so they're like a sort of secondary unit, but they end up, like, getting in the way, but then end up sort of, like, helping, you know what I mean?Oh, good.

That's good.I haven't got into a series for ages.

Yeah, watch Slow Horses.Do you have time?

No, not really, I know.

You could do it on the move.

Yeah, maybe not when I'm driving.

I never watch it in the car, you find that amazing.I can't do the trip without something.Do you watch stuff in the car?

No, I don't.I just chat.

The last time I left there was Avengers Endgame.Magnificent.Good.Cos I loved Marvel.I used to read a lot of Marvel when I was a kid.So the Marvel films are just, like...

I never got into them.I love it so much.

Are they the futuristic things?Yes.No, that's no good, though.Anything that's futuristic, like sci -fi...Star Wars and all that.I can't watch any of that.

Like, not real.

No, no.That's no good for me.

It's called escapism, guys.That's what it's called.

I think I might need a bit.You need a little bit.He can go round in a fake skateboard for an hour.

With a corn on his head.With a corn on his head.

Stick to football is brought to you by Arm Clothing.The reason he stayed last year was because he's not completed what he wants to, and that's win trophies at United.And he won't be winning trophies.

Not with that mindset of the team yesterday.It's mind -boggling.It's a circus act.

Surely you've got to look at how we will concede in 50 -odd goals.No matter how you set up, whatever, you've got to defend.

There'll be open warfare if he doesn't play, won't there?

Yeah, but again, if you're going to go to war, then go to war.You know what it started for me?When they started making the semifinals go to work.I'll never get over that.

I will never get over it.We're talking about projects and managers need time.He didn't need time.For a manager going to a club where he was in disarray, that's top -level management.

If Martin don't go in, they don't win that.

Why is he falling on the floor?Excuse me?I think he was disappointed that Bermel missed.For who?Well, for himself and for the team.Bang on.

Bang on.For himself.You were like, oh, look at Bruno.Look at Bruno.You kept saying it.Look at Bruno.

What about that handball yesterday?

It was handball.Can we just, with that handball, and again with VAR, if they can't give that as handball, what is...You know something, and I've got enough, I don't care who it's against and that, that is handball.The ball goes past, if he doesn't stop it with his arm, it's gone over there.

If he gives that as a foul, nobody would say anything, would they?

Because as soon as you see it, Roy, you say, it's handball.What are they doing?

I know people quote rules, but sometimes...Not rules, it's the laws.Any laws.There's a feel, isn't there, sometimes, that something just like is not right.

So he's told to go over and then he just backs himself obviously with...Yeah, we're listening to it.So, to be fair, the VR...You can only hear it one way, can't you?

We can hear the communications from Stockley Park Inn and basically they're saying, they weren't sure themselves, well they were sure but they were sort of like, they took a time with it, they took three minutes actually themselves.But in the end, they just thought...It's just clearly that he's basically sort of...He's wedged the ball in between his arms.He's wedged it.He's stopped it.

He's called it.So they call him over, and then we can sort of see...They don't convince the referee.They sort of point out the facts.They point to say to him, look, we think he's basically brought the ball...I can't remember the exact words, but they're sort of explaining what they've seen.

And then you see the sort of referee sort of look an extra time and an extra time.You think, oh, he's pushing back here.

Gary, it's crazy that he...For him to go against himself, when you can see...Even if he's stuck by it, it's like, no, no, no, that's handball.

No, but you reckon referees then are going over a little bit, going, no, no, and they're going too far the other way by going, I'm going to stick to my decision.Within that instant, he obviously has, because it's handball.That's my point.If you're going over and you're going...Obviously, you want referees to be strong and believe in what you're doing.But for our looking going, come on.

But he's gone, no, no, and then sticking to his guns for the wrong reasons almost.Exactly.

You want him to change.Sometimes you want him to go.Because when they go now, we just say, that's done.Yeah.He shouldn't have changed his mind for that one.

When we played with VAR, whenever they went over, we knew there was going to be a change of decision if ever they got called over.But now it just seems all over the place.But even somebody just looking at that once, you're like, it's handball.

It's confusing for us even.You're in the studio and you're watching a match.It's all up in the air now.And everyone in the studio, they're getting quotes from different referees and the laws of the game.You don't know what's going to...

Inconsistency is a bit frustrating.That came in to us about four or five minutes later.They said that the match centre, they obviously contact...I think what Sky didn't do, they contact the match centre and they get the official line.And that was that the feeling was it was accidental and that if it had led directly to the goal of Mbemo, it would be disallowed.It's the fact it then played on again to Kunja and obviously he scores, that's when it...

Yeah, but didn't they show something last week where VAR admitted 24 mistakes?So this VAR, which is supposed to be...taking human error out of the game from officials or whatever, and they said the 24 major decisions wrong, yet they're looking at it for a minute and still getting it wrong.24, not four, but 24, that's a lot, isn't it?

The argument, though, I was watching Salford on Friday night, I was watching it on my phone, and there were two goals that Grimsby scored.The first one was handball, and the second one was offside, it looked like to me.And you think, if you don't go up for those reasons, or if you don't...Do you know what I mean?There are big decisions.

I get it, yeah.

Look at Arsenal's at West Ham.Arsenal lose the league, by the way, if it's not for VAR.Arsenal lose the league, potentially, if it's not for VAR.That's the thing.West Ham, the one across the goalkeeper, right?

Yeah, but look at the floor the game is lower down, where you're saying decisions are thrown against you.It is a better watch, isn't it?Yeah, it is, yeah.It is more enjoyable.It is more enjoyable because you're not worried.And obviously, you always go back to it, it leaving itself, so obviously you can... you can have a debate about that, but there's a flaw to the game.

And I don't mind if they stop the game and they look at it and then get to the right decision, but there's still sometimes getting to the wrong decision and they're stopping the game for four or five minutes.

Even with the Arsenal one with David Redmond, I remember watching, because I was intently watching the City -Everton game, and I remember Bernardo Silva grabbed rule, you know, the Everton player, literally grabbed him down.

Which Everton player?

The Everton player, he scored last night.Rule, his name is?

Yeah, yeah.

Nothing said, nothing said.He grabbed him and nothing said.I can't understand why it's so different.Arsenal got one where, I don't care what anyone says, he's impeccable.

It's definitely a foul.

There's other things going on but that's a foul.Yeah, it was a foul.Why isn't no one speaking about the Bernardo Silva one?It doesn't make sense.Why is it like that?

Just forget the City one for a second though but Arsenal without VAR would have been in potentially big trouble and could have lost the league.That's how important VAR has been for Arsenal.Some clubs benefit from it as well, don't they?Obviously, United benefited yesterday.Arsenal, a week before, that goal was given.

But do you think it evens out over the season, though, sometimes?Because, yeah, that moment was massive.

Do the bigger clubs, people always argue, do the bigger clubs generally get...?

They used to say that with United.

And in other sports, of course.But, Gal, you say that Arsenal could have won the league, That was meant to do his job.

It's a foul.No, no.I'm just saying, but without VAR...He did his job perfectly well and it was right that a foul was given, but without VAR...

What do you mean?If there was no VAR...

Roy said before, watching lower league football is a lot more enjoyable.Yeah.And that means, obviously, no VAR.So if we took VAR away completely...Kept going.Just kept going.

Kept going.You might get other ones that swing you away different parts of the season, so it's a bit of a...

Yeah.

..bad argument.But without VAR last Sunday, I mean, that was like...

But you don't have much stupidity as a player.Go back to the Arsenal one last week.People were going, you can still be aggressive in the box.Of course, not even just that, incidents.We see it every week.People grabbing me.

You can be aggressive and attack the ball without standing on the goalkeeper.Because what happens is you're going, lads, this is the last minute.Let's go up and be aggressive and maybe take a few chances.But not on the goalkeeper.Let's do it everywhere else.Because as soon as you look at the goalkeeper... course he's going to give it.

I think the stupidity of players, Celtic tonight you're talking about the handball, but players jumping up with their arms going, don't give him a chance.It's almost a lack of intelligence from players to go up and go, whatever you do, don't follow the goalkeeper.

Well the European handball to fair, that's a ridiculous one.If I'd be frightened to death as a defender in that Champions League final, the ball is your arm anyway.If you're just defending, and you're crossing righty, and my arm is there like that, and it hits me there, as I'm balancing to try and get up, it's a penalty.

Did you see the Celtic one?That is mine.That's what I'm talking about, yeah.The one from during the week, not the weekend, yeah.

No, I'm talking about the one...

Oh, the weekend, yeah.He's blasted at it.His body's...You know, when you're going to...Yeah, but Roy, your arm naturally, when you go to like that, your arm does that.I'm thinking they've got to start taking these things into consideration.

It's like even the Celtic one in the week where it's come up.But why would you...How can the ball go that far if it doesn't come?

Of course it is there, but why, as a player, you're the last...Why would you put your hand up there?I know, I know.

Surely handball is when you actually make an action, though, to... handle the ball.Do you know what I mean?If it's just in a natural position.

I think anything around here with your arms, your arms are here, there, it's a penalty.If it's there, in this arc, in this arc here, it's not handball.In this arc, it's handball.

When the fenders are coming up, that's annoying as well.

What about when you're stretching and your arm goes there?What about that?

If you go to block a cross with your right foot and your left arm goes behind you, that's down, that's fine.If it's there, you're done.If you're down here, if he's in your position, that's natural.Yeah.How do you not put your arm there as you go to stop a cross with your right foot, so that you can get back the other way if he turns back?

I've got such long arms, so I used to hit my arms all the time.If you were a goalkeeper.

I would have given away...I reckon 10 penalties a season.I'd have given away 10 penalties a season by blocking crosses.Well, I was desperate to block crosses, so I'd literally...You'd do anything to block a cross, because these lot would kill you if you let crosses in.

It used to be a crime to let a cross in.Stop the cross, you know what I mean?It's Michael.You know what's annoying me about full -backs now?Full -backs defending crosses, not the guy attacking.When it comes in and you're a defender, players don't know where to head it.

We saw it yesterday at Williams for Forest against United.When the ball comes in, they don't know what to do, as if they don't do it in training.I'm on about when you're on the other side, when it comes in and you're on the back post.Full -backs don't know where to head it or chest it.They all panic as if they don't do it in training anymore.

The only excuse I ever have for a full -back at the back post from across from that sideis sometimes with all the bodies in front of you you don't see the ball being crossed because it sounds crazy but you're just in your position and all of a sudden you can sometimes be blocked by your centre half in front of you or the full back over the far side and then you see the ball late you know sometimes the only excuse I can give and that's where you have to be tight You have to make sure you're tight against your...

The one at the weekend, he saw it all the way.I get that, I get a bit tightened and people getting across you.But not when you see it all the way.They just head back into the danger area.

Like the Bruno cross for his assist.Yeah.So when he pings it across and he goes, that's so hard for the defender at the back post because it's coming so fast across loads of bodies and you just...

Yeah.I remember with the first goal.The first goal was up in the air and a full -back turned Williams.

I mean, that was ridiculous.

His head's back up in the air!

It must be hard for a full -back, though, sometimes, because you're kind of, like, stand and start, whereas they're coming in, aren't they?You must know you're going to get absolutely clattered.

There's a number of things.One is, can you see the ball?Secondly, you're also thinking, I've got to cover...That space between me and the centre -back is mine, so I've got to cover that space.Anything over the centre -back's head is mine.

Mm -hm.

Anything then over my head is mine.So it's that going in and sometimes getting done there.

Gary, it's multitasking, isn't it?No, it is.You've got to do more than one job.Some people go, I've got this man here.No, you've got to be ready for him, but also get somebody ready for you.But players are like, I had him.

No, you've got to do a couple of jobs.

You've got to set pieces.Job and a half.

And even the modern full -back.You know who gets the biggest round of applause?You know when a ball comes into the box and it's come to the full -back?And they chest it back to the goalkeeper.They get a standing ovation.The fans are like, what?

They should be doing that all the time.Cushion the header back to the goalkeeper.Fans stand up and go, wow, that was amazing, that.

Yeah, but that's quite risky.How is it risky?

Obviously, be aware there's nobody around you, of course.

I know, but I do think...

They chest it back, they get a standing ovation.Wow, I'd love to be a full -back.

Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing.But it happened to me at the start of the season, the start of the 1998 -99 season, when I played four years in the summer.I'd played 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 for England in the summer in tournaments.Unbroke up in Le Tournoi in between two major tournaments, the World Cup in France and 1996 England.I don't remember when I was done in.Done.

But then, end of the season, 2000, around that time when I was playing 50, 60 matches a season.

Really?So, were there any other players though?

Oh, I think England players that I've seen definitely tire towards the end of the season and definitely struggle at times in World Cup to get their form that they've had during the season because they're, yeah, I think it's a physical league and it's more demanding.Is there anything players would do?Back in the day, you know, it sounds crazy.This is obviously protein filled, so these would have been something that we would have taken back in the day because back in the day we were carb loading all the time.There was no protein advice back in 20 years ago, we were talking about carbs.Carb powder, sometimes a little bit of creatine, that was the only stuff we took.

Protein came in probably in the late 2000s, like 2008 -9, near the end of my career when they used to say, write protein straight after a game.That was in the mid -90s.So this would have been on the list.

My friend, the vanilla one, 100 % would have been on the list.

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Do we need to give him huge plaudits for getting level with Thierry Henry and Kevin De Bruyne on 20 assists?I mean, 20 assists, that's obviously more than one every two games.That is a massive achievement, isn't it?

Well, it is because, like, assists have been brought in as a thing.A metric.

It's new though, isn't it, an assist?

It is, yeah.

I remember David Beckham, that was never a thing, assists.But it's obviously become a big thing in the last 5, 6, 7, 8 years.

Even when Thierry got his 26, I think he got 20 -odd goals as well.I wasn't ever interested in the assists, but then it started to come along.Thierry was the most assist in the Premier League.Then it's become a thing.Then you've got Kevin De Bruyne, another one who's a multi -winner.

But you've got to be good to get to 20.

Well, without a doubt.

I mean, look, if you think about those two in front of him, they're probably two of the best players that have ever played in the Premier League.

Yeah, but Roy made a good point when he was talking outside about the area in which he plays now.You're going to get assists in that position he plays.

20 is a lot.20 would be better if you're winning trophies.

Oh, I get that, but he can't do that on his own, can he?He can't win trophies on his own, Bruno, you know what I mean?He is, to be fair, performing at probably a level that the rest of his teammates are.

No, but when you're the captain of a club and you're supposed to be driving the club forward, Do not be getting bogged down by just your role in the team, just assists.I think what I heard in United the weekend, honestly, I was raging with it.The whole chat about his assists and players talking about assists.He got interviewed after the match, after the game, and I was watching him and everyone was talking about his assists and even the players were...The game was about his assists.That's the whole talk.

After the game, he got interviewed and he said in his interview, Captain of Man United, he said, yeah, a few times I probably should have...He said this himself, I should have shot, but...made them passes.Wow.How can your mindset of a footballer be going out to a match and be talking about some individual wreck?If it happens, he's going to get all them stats anyway.

But for it to become the main point about Man Utd's performance the weekend, I thought I was cringing with all of them.And all the players, when he got the assist, going off to, what about the guy who scored the goal?

But there's nothing on the game in terms of what would be...United have already finished in the Champions League, Forrest have already stayed up, I think there was an element...

No, but if your mindset of that is going into a game, then who's to say it's not like that in other games?You said there's nothing on the game.There's always something on the game.I know, but you understand what I mean by that.There's still 70 -odd toes in at the matches today.And I'm just saying, if your focus is..

.And all the players talking about Bruno's assist, when you're not winning anything, if you're on the back of winning stuff and players are getting individual awards, fantastic.On the back of your team winning stuff.golden boot stuff, you go, that lad's thumbs up to that player of the year, no problem.But that's like further down the line, the priorities of the team.Man United's priorities this weekend was Bruno getting an assist.

Not winning a football match, not Strykers getting goals or defenders or being good at set pieces.But they did win, they did win.Or keeping a clean sheet.There's other parts of football that are really important.So for one player to get bogged down with assists and his team aren't winning anything, they've finished 15th, that's my issue.All that will happen anyway.

Bruno will get loads of assists, the position he plays, and he's got runners ahead of him.To get that many though, Roy, with your team winning nothing.But that's even harder.

And the consistency of his players.What's the point?I mean, you're playing in a team game, isn't it?Let me finish.You're part of a team.What's the priority of a team?

He's doing his job.To try and win.

He's going to do that.He's doing his job creating though.

Not when it becomes a priority.Of course he's doing his bit.He's a brilliant player and he's a player of the year.He's getting all the rewards and come the summer he'll probably get another New Deal because they'll be threatening he's going to Saudi Arabia.We've been on this road before.He's got previous.

So then for a player to get assists and that becoming the priority.that'll come when your team is focused on trying to win the big prizes and you're keeping clean sheets.

But then you look at someone like Bruno Reus, if they get the right players around, he'd probably do that again.And they will win stuff, because he's got that advantage.

And if they win the league next year and he's got 20 assists, I say, you know what?Well done, Man United, winning the league.And Bruno, well done.That's a little sideshow.That can't become the main show.He said himself he got interviewed on the pitch going, yeah, I'd probably pass it when I took some shots.

So even he said his priority was trying to get assists instead of maybe, I might actually shoot myself.

I mean, they're not winning the league because of him, number one.

You said he's part of a team.

Well, he's part of a team then.He's contributing enormously to that team.

And is he not contributing to the team?Keep clean sheets.That's part of his job, isn't it?

Absolutely.But the thing I would say is that I used to think exactly the same 20 years ago when Cristiano was the first person I ever heard say, I want to win the Ballon d 'Or during a season at United in an interview.And I remember thinking, forget the Ballon d 'Or.Forget that.We need to win a league.We need to win the Champions League.

He did go and win the Ballon d 'Or.On the back of Watteau?Did he win leagues?

To be fair, I think...You don't win them big prizes unless you're winning titles, they go hand -in -hand.

He's the first player that I remember talking about individual awards and feeling a little bit uncomfortable about it.But I do think, looking back now, it does matter for these players to get the individual awards when you're like a Salah, a Bruno Fernandes, a Cristiano.

But if you're going into a game, my point is...Do you think he is?No, but if you're going into a game and it's affecting your...Gary, listen to his interview after the game, yes.He actually said it.

And I was watching the game and I'm going...You think it's because they're out of everything, though, right?

They're already out of everything.It's the only thing he's kind of got left.I know what you're saying about him just being selfish about the assist, but it's all he's got left.

I'm going to interview him after the game to talk about assist.He'll go, I'm here to win trophies.

But is it the media as well?

So if you said to him...

Yeah, but you can put your foot down with it.No, but he's obviously getting asked the question, isn't he?

He got asked the question, but he actually said, I'm watching the game.So even before his interview, I'm going, his mindset's not right here.He's trying to get assists.There was a chance for him to shoot yesterday.Particularly in the second half when everyone was getting bogged down with assists.They all ran over.

Forget the goalscorer.The assists should be a backup to everything else.The assists became the story of the weekend.How could assists become the story at Man United?

I'm surprised because I thought he actually shot a couple of times when he should have passed it.

No, look at the second half.He admitted himself.There were situations where he was like, go on Bruno, the goal's there for you.First half he had a few shots but then it all became about the assists.

I can sort of understand it a little bit in the sense that to get level with those two players, I can understand it.And what do you get for it?

There's no trophy for that.Exactly.No, but you put yourself in company that's like...What's the reason playing for Man United?What's the number one priority when you play for Man United?

I think he would say that though, wouldn't he?To win trophies, he would say that, I think.He didn't say it yesterday.Well, Roy, to be fair, what I do know is that speaking to him three weeks ago, he said the reason he stayed last year was because he's not completed what he wants to and that's win trophies at United, to be fair to him.He did say that.

And he won't be winning trophies.Not with that mindset of the team yesterday, where they're giving up two goals and everyone's getting all giddy because he's equal a record for assists.It's mind -boggling.It's mind -boggling.It's a circus act.

I do think you go through a season and then if the accolades come, they come down.It's fine.It's all about opinion.

We'll be here till midnight.I think that's wrong, that this idea and everyone getting bogged down by assists should be way down the pecking order, not the priority on a match day at Old Trafford.That's a little sideshow.When players won awards at United, it was fantastic.But not where that was the main chat.The main chat was, Well, you're talking about winning Player of the Year.

I got Player of the Year once and nobody turned up at the dinner.That's not my priority.My priority is winning trophies.He needed an assistant.What happened, Roy?That's still touching you deep.

You know, I don't want to carry a grudge here.No -one assisted you.No -one assisted you to the award.

That's been mentioned before about eight times on this programme.

If you're a player and you're not winning trophies, but people bring up your stats, you'd be cringing, you'd be going, forget my stats.We've got to win trophies.Last year they weren't on the pitch after finishing 15th.15th last year.Nobody was talking about the assists last year.But obviously everyone's excited because they've qualified for the Champions League.

We have judged Bruno by his goals and assists over the years.One thing I would say is that these things matter because Ultimately we judge these players by their output, their assists and their goals, we judge them by that.So we judge them, we say, I've heard you say a number of times, but where's his goals, where's his assists, that's what this guy is delivering to be fair to him.

You made a point yesterday when you were doing the game, I'm watching it, Bruno gives a pass and he misses it, what did Bruno do after he missed it?Oh, he went on the floor?

Yeah, he went on the floor, yeah.

Lovely, innit?

That was when then Bermel missed the shot.

Lovely.Why is he falling on the fucking floor?Excuse me.Well, I think he was disappointed that Bermel missed.For what?For who?

Well, for himself and for the team.Bang on.Bang on.For himself.He wasn't disappointed for the striker who was having a bit of a difficult spell and missed a couple of chances.He's thinking about assists and he gets an assist.

Takes him off to the striker going, you've had a difficult spell, but I tell you what, you stuck at it.Brilliant.It's like, Bruno, come off to me and toss my hair.Lovely.Why did he fall on the floor?Why did he fall on the floor and wave his hands up in the air?

Because that was an assist for him instead of going, we could have gotten her the goal.Yesterday, Shaw scored, first goal in 97 years.They're all going off doing...Why did you bring Bruno up for?

Why did you take him up for an argument?I actually didn't expect we were going to get that.

Well, that's why...

I actually expected there to be some flowers, to be fair.We go back, you get standards.Imagine us in the Dresdner and we're finishing, we're not competing for any trophies.we're not competing...And someone's in the dressing room talking about an assist, you'd be like, you keep that up, pal, you keep that up, you'll be getting it as well.Imagine that being a priority at a Man United.

That was the celebration yesterday.He joined some other brilliant players as an assist.And then one of the guys, I think, on the back of the air says, I'm guessing, I don't know the stats, we're winning, we're winning the odd trophy.All goes hand in hand, Gary.

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I think we're probably players, though, that would never have probably thought about individual awards, but, righty, are them awards, like, on your...Like, as a striker and...As a striker.Like, cos it's...

As a striker, the Golden...

Different mentality.That's what I mean.

Yeah.

Is it something that you think about, like...

Once you start...When you start the season, you're thinking about just being amongst the goals.You want to be scoring goals to win games.It's only when it starts to get to the latter stage of the season you start thinking about the Golden Boot.

Yeah.

But righty, strikers have a mentality that even if the team win and they miss chances and they don't score, they do sometimes, after the game, get disappointed in their own personal not scoring.So there is that element of in a striker's mindset, they don't think like Roy's thinking or Jill thought.I think you have to have that mindset as a striker.

A bit more selfless.I think that's on the back of all the stuff, of course.Everyone's selfish.Players are selfish.They're looking at contract, assists, that all goes in the mix.Because I guarantee you, if Bruno's negotiating his contract, in the summer, which he probably will do.

He's the assist.

Of course he'll be throwing all that in the mix, as you do.

And he plays all the games, you give him the thumbs up.But that shouldn't be a sideshow.That shouldn't be a priority for any football.Or a goalscorer.I just said to a goalscorer at the end of the season, I'll guarantee you 25 goals but your team will win that.And I still think he's straight, go, do you know what, give me 15 goals and if we win the league, of course.

But I think he would do that.He'd swap those assist records for a title.I haven't seen that in all his chat or the stuff for the weekend.I'm not arguing that point.I'm sure he would swap them for a trophy.But not where that's his chat.

We're all yesterday going, I probably should have...probably should have shot what I...You're like, what's going through your head when you're playing a game of football?Or when your teammates misses a big chance, who's struggling for confidence, and you fall on the floor and wave your hands up in the air?What about your mate who's missed a chance?Because you always say, he's a great team player, he's always helping the young lads.

We'll go up to the line and go, hey, don't worry, I'm glad you're missing them chances because you're making the good runs.And eventually you'll get one, don't worry.But he's fallen off.You were mentioning the commentator yesterday.You were like, oh, look at Bruno, look at Bruno.You kept saying it.

Look at Bruno.Look at Bruno.

You should come on commentary.

A guy misses a chance and he falls on the floor.Was that last minute to win the league title?No, no, that's for me to get an assist.Get up off your knees.

But it plays...Let me toss your hair.

What's that?Let me toss your hair.

Toss your hair.

What are you all tossing?

Do you want to see what I'm doing?But Harland was annoyed, wasn't he, that he didn't get that goal at Wembley the other day?Yeah, because he's not scored in the final, right?

That plays on your mind.Let me final -final Wembley.There's two things I would say.Records matter to forward players more than it does to other players in the team.They matter.You know that, right?

Goals matter to you.And also...

Did clean sheets matter to you?Pardon?Did clean sheets matter to you?Or would you be happy to win 4 -2?If you know what I mean.

I must admit, clean sheets did matter to us.

There's different parts of that.Goalkeepers want to keep clean sheets obviously.

But winning the game to be fair was more important than a clean sheet and to be fair we also played a certain way which meant that we were a bit open.We weren't best set up for clean sheets either.We were set up to win stuff.That's what yesterday afternoon in the second half, I can live with that way of playing to be fair in the sense that I know they gave up some goals and they were poor goals.I actually thought to be fair, I mean I defended poorly for the first half, I thought the crosses from Anderson were unbelievable by the way.So I thought there were goals that you could look at and think, I tell you what, the second one's a brilliant goal by the way.

The Gibbs white one's fantastic.

Can we just say, with Gibbs -White's finish...

It was a great finish.Lovely.

Coming in at that pace, opening himself out, it was...Again, that was just...It was so good.People just skipped past it.They don't realise the amount of technical ability.

I tried to end commentary, that was a brilliant...Gary, it was magnificent because...

The pace of the pass, the way he opened it.It was watching...If you're playing golf, it was a hole -in -one.It was perfect.

Is Anderson the real deal?I wasn't going to ask this, but is Anderson the real deal?

I like him.When you see him play at England, he seems to go up a level.When you see him sometimes at Forest, he does things you think...I don't think he'd do that in England, otherwise he probably wouldn't be in there, but he seems to be a player that, when he gets to the right level, he gets his head in the...Step up.Yeah, because, like...

He's got a chance, yeah.His ability is brilliant.Roy, do you like him?Yeah, he's got a chance, yeah.I'm still holding back a little bit.On what?

On everything.On what?Everything.

But what part of his game are you holding back?

His decision -making.I watched him last week against Newcastle.If you want to watch it, he was desperate.Really poor in the game.Scored a brilliant goal at the end.Fair play, he got brilliant.

The Villa game, again, the big games.He was poor against Villa in the European Cup.Not European Cup.Europa League.When I see him in them moments, I just hold back a little bit.Will he get a big move in the summer?

Probably.He settled into England really well, but England group matches were pretty easy.But that's a challenge for a player when the games are easy.

Would you be going all out for him if you were United and City?They both need the field players.

You say all out for him?Well, look, £70 million, £80 million...I'd understand that, yeah.But if you're talking about £100 or £125, all that crazy money, I'd be like, hold on a second.But if you're talking about £60 or £70...

Yeah, you'd have to be interested.

City are in from there as well.I think he'd suit United more than City, I think.

Well, no, but the thing is with City, obviously you've got...They do need a midfield player.The rumour is that City and United are both vying for his signature.That's what the rumour is but I mean...

I think he'll start for England in the World Cup.Oh he will, he's got every chance.I think that'll be a massive test.That'll be a nice little test.

He'll be going to the World Cup in the knockout games because again England...

And United should do everything to try and make sure that they get him.Especially with...It's exciting now with Michael signing and everything.Good luck to him and that.But if they get it right with the right players, United...

What would you go to?What would you stop at?

What do you mean?To pay for him.

Yeah.If he gets to 100, would you go for it?

Well, if you look at United's...If you look at United...If you look at Forrest, you're getting 100 million from him.Yeah.Wow.If you're United and you needed that kind of midfielder for so long and Man City are trying to take him off you, then you've got to go where you've got to go, because you've got to get him.

You've got to get him.I'd pay for him.I'd pay for him.

He's shown good moments, of course.I always go back, he's still learning his trade and I'd always be harsh on midfielders and he's got years to mature yet.But United obviously would have to be looking at him and then he did a couple of nice things yesterday where that's the time to catch somebody's eye when you're playing against them.

Them crosses.The crosses were brilliant.Do you see him as a partner with Kobe Meunier?

Yeah.Yeah, him holding and Cobby can go and do his eight work and all that sort of stuff.Then Bruno up there.

You do need someone, don't you?

Oh, you do.But I'm saying, is he the real deal?Because it's going to cost a lot of money.Yeah.A lot of money.

Well, this is...

If we're talking...Have they got that big...Him and De Tuber, have they got that big...I still think United need a bit more physical presence in there.

That's the problem.You're going to have to deal with the ballers.The one other that they sign has got to be a physical presence.If they're going to sign two...If they sign him, they have to then sign someone who's got a bit of...

So, like, they were talking about...Remember, like, Belie...Like, Belieber, they were talking about, you know?

You know who I quite liked as well?It's that Sanghari at Forest, he's got that.He's alright.I wonder when he came on.

You know something?When I watch our photos, obviously, maybe some of the technical...But, like, he's...I agree.Physicality.

I thought it was good when he came on.

That's the kind of player, you know, with United, you could get him in a United with the quality around him.You just do that.Just do that physical stuff.I think that's the kind of profile they should be.

They have to get that right, they have to get two in the middle.

Yeah, they have to get one in the middle.

And two at the back.At the back, a full -back maybe and a centre -half.

Is that what you would prioritise?Two midfielders, two?

I think that, yeah.You're talking about United's priorities.So Forrest, Forrest are, what, 15, 16 in the league?And United have conceded more goals than Forrest.So that tells you all the problems at United.

This segment is brought to you by Microsoft Co -Pilot as part of their partnership with the Premier League.So, there are eight players who have recorded four assists in a Premier League game.

Some effort, that, isn't it?

And it ranges from 1999...Thierry Henry...through to 2023.Thierry Henry is not on there.

Giggsie, Pecks.Paul Scholes.No.No.Robert Perez.No.

Saka.David Silva.

No.There's no -one left.Forden.No.Can we have a clue?

Robbie Keane.God!No.Teddy.No.Four players from Arsenal have done it.

Two players from Tottenham, a Manchester United player and a City player.Gareth Bale.Not one of them.What?!

Bergkamp.Bergkamp.On the 20th of February, 1999.

Fierra.No.

Well, you mentioned Patrick, but you don't mention me. I know, but you don't make me your sister yet.Oh, Patrick did.

Patrick did.Modric.No.So there's four from Arsenal, of which you've got one.There's two from Tottenham.There's one from United and there's one from City.

Rice?No.Van Persie.Havertz?No.Fabregas?

I'll give you the years of each player.Did you say Fabregas?No, I did.Yeah, Fabregas.So Fabregas was 2009 against Blackburn.

we're missing that.

No.So, the ones you haven't got, the last player to do it, apart from obviously Bruno, was 2023, City.2021, Man United.2020, Tottenham.Zlatan.

2023, Alvarez.No.

Yeah, yeah, Toure.Yeah, yeah.No. 2020, Tottenham.And then back to 2013, Arsenal is the next one.So, there's a jump from seven years, from 2013 to 2020.Grealish.

No.

OK, Doku...I've assisted four times in my life.

Doku.

Doku.

Doku's right.OK, so we've got Doku.Gal, you're not a great quiz master when it comes...Oh, my God.If we hang in there long enough, he'll just tell us.

If we just hang in there, he'll tell us the answer.OK, the Man United one from 2021, you need to get that.I'm not letting you off without getting that one.

2021.Man United.

Rashford?No.What colour hair has he got?It's mad that you've not got his name.Pogba.Pogba.

Oh, good show.

Did you just get some help there?Paul Pogba.

I'm going to give you a clue on the Arsenal player.Arsenal was 2013.

Santi Cazorla.

Yeah.Santi Cazorla.The great Santi Cazorla.It's embarrassing that you haven't got one of the Tottenham ones.What year was Spurs?What year?

Embarrassing.

It's not embarrassing.

2020.Jermaine Jenner.You'll kick yourselves if you don't know.Jermaine Jenner.No.

Bentley.What are you doing?I don't know.What are you doing?I'm trying.I'm trying.

2020?

I think it's so obvious.You're not helping, Gal.

You're making me feel even worse.You're thinking of a player that plays in a creative position, like as in midfield or a wide player.Oh, I know who it is.Go on, then.

Oh, I can't think of it.

I hate when people do that.Son.Son.No, it's not Son.No.

Harry Kane.Harry Kane.Oh, my God.

Oh, Kane.

You helped him, though, with the Son.

I was like, the Son, Susie Son.I assisted.

Yeah, but you're thinking assist, like...

Yeah, because...

I'm so happy I got that.

How can you not really get that right?

You didn't get Dennis Bird.The last two I'm going to give you, I don't think you would have gotten these off the bat that you couldn't get Harry Kane.So, Emmanuel Adebayor.No, wouldn't have got that.Tottenham.Wouldn't have got that.

And Jose Antonio Reyes.for Arsenal in 2006.

No, I wouldn't have got that.

I don't think you'd have got either of those.No.Well done, Companion.

Do one in the future that you know that we'll probably...That's why you need the Companion.You know what, Gal, off the back of that, I'm gonna get one of those.

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You know what I was shocked about?How many goals Liverpool have conceded?50...52, is it, or something?

Well, we're going to talk about Liverpool now.

I know, but to concede...I know there's a lot of noise around the manager and everything, but I'm like, surely you've got to look at how we were conceding 50 -odd goals.No matter how you set up, whatever, you've got to defend.

We're going to ring Jamie Carragher.

We haven't seen Jamie.We haven't seen him, but we're going to ring him about...

We're going to ring him and put him on FaceTime.

Yeah, get him on.You've took his place, Jill.

That's how I've got my place.He's unavailable.

He's gone out on the lawn.Is he going to answer?

Oh, that's cute that you've got a heart after his name.A heart?

That's nice of him to answer, innit?

He won't answer, he knows.

Carrigan, you 23?

Well, he has a few numbers.

He won't answer cos, like, he knows that it's you, he knows that it's the show, and, you know, Liverpool...

Does he know we're ringing?Yeah, he knows you're ringing.Well, can he pick up?You're his friend from Liverpool, you know what I mean, Kieran?

Do the FaceTime.

I am FaceTiming him.

Here he is.

Here he is. I can't see him.

Cara, have you got five minutes?

You have to put him that way.

We need to just go through...I mean, we're just going to go through the Mo Salah comments and just get your take on it to start with.So, Kari, obviously everyone's...

No, we had to start earlier.

I've got to get down to London, Kara, for this game tonight.Me too.

He's with you.

Arsenal...

LAUGHTER We're missing you here.

I thought you used to work on the overlap.

Yeah, I know exactly, that's what I'm saying.

Let me just read this quote out.I've witnessed this...OK, Cara's heard the quote.Right, basically, Mo Salah has effectively walked out the door, nearly, and he's lobbed a grenade back inside for everyone to be left with.What did you make of his comments, Cara?

I wasn't surprised at all.basically told the lads at Sky, my mates on the group chat, even a couple of people at Liverpool, this was coming.It was always going to happen, so I'm not surprised at all.I knew he'd do a little bit of a Ronaldo thing on the way out.I know Ronaldo's was a lot more than the tweet that Mo Salah's put out, but he was always going to do something.So I'm not surprised, really.

And again, it just...Liverpool have still got something to play for at the weekend if Bournemouth get something against City.Now, we know it's not been a great season, but it's all about Mo Salah again this week, and that's what he wants.He wants it always to be about him.He wants it to be about goals or trophies, I understand that normally, but when it's not, he always wants the attention on himself.For me, I don't care how big a player anybody is, I've always been, you know, the club always comes first and it's a big week for the club, they've got to make sure they get that result.

Next week against Brentford, and all week the press, everything will be about Mo Salah and it's...I don't care how good a player he is, it's not right.

Should he play against Brentford, Cara?

You and Roy have been managers, I haven't been a manager, but I don't think a manager should ever cut off his nose to spite his face.He should always think, right, what's going to give me the best chance of a result?If he needs a result, Now, if he doesn't need a result and Liverpool are already qualified, now that might be something different.If Liverpool don't need to win the game, it might be different, I don't know.But the position Arnie's slotting right now with the supporters, it's very difficult not to give Mo Salah some sort of big send -off in the crowd.So he almost can't win in some ways.

If he had a bit more power...Listen, you're thinking what Ferguson did to Wayne last game.

Left him out.Fergie's last game.Is it just the timing?Because what he's saying, is he telling any lies in what he's saying, Jay?

Right.He knows we're used to him.

Kara, just one question.Is the more worrying thing for Arnaud Slot that four or five players liked his message on Instagram and seemed to support him?Because that, to me, would be as big a problem for me.

First of all, because I think players now, I mean, we all do, we all like things, you don't even read them half the time.

Aw, I thought you liked my posts.Yeah, I always liked them.

Just a bit.I don't know what goes on in the dressing room, but I think it was daft for them to do, but I wouldn't be.I'm not overly forced by that, to be honest.I said earlier in the season, he's trying to get the manager sacked.Whether people agree with me or not, I've been proven right, but I'm caught out and doing it again.And this idea that he's doing it for Liverpool,

Are you just upset because he wouldn't speak to you when Sky did an interview during the season and they said me?

He wouldn't speak to anyone.

Have you got anything else to say on your...Have you got any other takes on your beloved club before we sort of have a comment on it?

I mean, for the season to be over, it's just been a bad season, all right, isn't it, for a lot of different reasons, and just wanted to start again, and that's what it looks like.The club want to do in some ways that you have to stick with the manager.It's almost like, just get this season out the way, forget about, almost forget it's even happened, and almost, let's say, let's start again.Listen, you can see both sides of it.I can see both sides of it, I hear you.

Yeah.Anyway, Carrot, we're losing signal on you.

I knew he was going to say...I knew he was going to mention pay.I knew he was going to mention pay.

Remember, Cara, though, you're still better than Man United, I remember, even though you're finishing fifth and about ten points behind them.Well done, congratulations.

I know.

You're losing them.

See you later.

Bye.Bye, son, Jimbo.

You can lose Canham.

When he says about...They have had quite a lot of bad luck though, haven't they?with injuries?

I think it does undermine slot when the four or five players do like it.I get what Karras is saying, social media is something now, people just like things, but you know what you're doing if you're liking a comment like that.Roy, where do you stand on this?Obviously Cristiano Ronaldo made those comments on United a few years ago, and you sort of defended him at the time.What were his comments again?Ronaldo's comments a few years ago, you remember he said the club was the training...

He was right, the words he said were absolutely correct.I think I've got the quotes here.Let me just read out Ronaldo's, because at the time you were very much...Ronaldo returned to Manchester United, he said basically he felt betrayed.But he was still at the club when he said he was quit, right?Yeah, he was betrayed, fans should know the truth, I don't have respect for the manager, he doesn't respect me.

So basically, at the time...I was very, I was annoyed, I thought that was the wrong thing to do, but to be fair, you, and I said this before, you do think differently about sort of making sure that the truth is told.Do you support Mo Salah in these comments, or would you say that it's something Liverpool and Arnslot didn't hear?

Did I support them?Maybe I just, maybe I was trying to get, I can understand the players' frustration when they're getting something out, maybe, yeah, but am I giving, like, lads thumbs up for this?No, but I wouldn't be ultra -critical of them.

Where are you at on Salah's comments in terms of, what do you think of them?

I'm not going from the manager's point of view, but if Jamie makes the point, if you're a player in the dressing room, I think you roll with all that.We mentioned a few months ago about Salah leaving, I was kind of critical of the fact they've announced that he was leaving and everyone was saying, no, no, it's your chance to say goodbye.Because all this type of thing would worry me, it's kind of a long goodbye.But the fact he's come out and said that stuff, as Jamie said, but he's got previous.So I wouldn't be losing sleep over it, but obviously, if I was in his dressing room, would I be upset?with him?

It's not great from the manager's point of view.

Why do you have to do it that way, though, if you really care about the club and changing it?Go and have conversations in -house with people like Angie.

But he's got previous...But I don't think it's worth surprising.Sal, he's had previous...

Remember, he filled up with clap as well.

Yeah, but I just don't think you have to...

You know something?Can I just say, though, Joe, with Sal and whatever we say...He's at that stature where he believes...I can say...I'm going to say...

But he hasn't had a great season.

He's not had a great season, but he's had great seasons and he knows he's leaving.Whether it's Gary saying about a friend of Grenadine or not.But our dressing room's different to when we played.

No, maybe that's...

It's unusual this, though, Roy.I mean, look, this middle paragraph here, or this second paragraph, Us crumbling to yet another defeat this season was very painful and not what our fans deserve.I want to see Liverpool go back to being the heavy metal attacking team that opponents fear and back to being a team that wins trophies.That is the football I know how to play and that is the identity that needs to be recovered and kept for good.It cannot be negotiable and everyone that joins this club should adapt to it.

Jamie will have a different view of it, he's played hundreds of games for Liverpool, he's a Scouser of course, but from us looking at that...That sounds good.

I don't know about sounds good, but I wouldn't be going, I'll tell you what, Giordano Vardar, that's scandalous.Sounds like a rally call to me.

After a game that you've just lost to Aston Villa, and you basically said the manager's not playing the style of play you play.

Yeah, I take all that into consideration, but I still feel like...

Hang on, let's just put yourself...Roy, you're a manager, and you're a manager, and you're a manager, right?You're in the dressing room, you've lost a football match, and one of the players comes out who's the star player in the team and says, your style of play is shit, and you've got to change to how we used to play the previous manager.That's what he said.Let's not dress this up.

But from a manager's point of view, what you say, you've got that many problems, that's not nice, but you're going, it's not my priority at the moment.This priority, we're obviously thinking, let's try and get the game out of the way.Salah is leaving.Let him get that off his chest and I'm trying to rebuild the club for next year and the new players that he's shown.to settle in.So that's what we said a few months ago.

We all agreed that was probably a good idea that he was going to leave.And if he's getting things off his chest...

You would be annoyed Roy.If that was one of your players.

Management is about being annoyed with players.But would you drag him in and speak to him?No, do you know what?I'll put it this way.If I was Slott at the moment, I'd be more annoyed with the players' performances than that.Of course you knock on in the morning and go, lovely little statement.

I bet your staff would be sitting over a cup of tea and going, He's not helped us out.

But what do you tolerate?

Players come up with stuff, players leak stuff.

But what do you tolerate in terms of...

What can he do?

What can he do?No, no, so my point is, ultimately, I think Carragher's right.I think he has to play him on Sunday and bite his bottom lip and sort of...I think yesterday I said, just, you know, take your medicine.But if he had any authority, if Arnold Slott had authority today at the club with the fans and obviously with what's going on, he would not have him in the game on Sunday.

If he had any authority, I wouldn't have done that.

I don't think Mo done it.If it's a certain amount of respect, he wouldn't have done it.He's a Premier League winning manager.

He would have done it in a different way.In the next few days, he might be in a position where he doesn't have to play him.And then we go...Because again, we go back to...If you're going to lose your job, make it on your decision, you're saying, has he got the power?Well, he's got the power to pick the team.

All right, he said a few months ago, and everyone was saying, is he under pressure to play people like Salah?

He will be Sunday.Of course.There'll be open warfare if he doesn't play him, won't there?

But again, if you're going to go to war, then go to war.If you're the manager in Liverpool and you're playing Brentford at home...Obviously Jamie's making it, don't cut off your nose and spite your face.Yeah, but you still think, I think we can beat Brentford without Salah.

The thing is, he knows he can put that out, he can put that out.Put him out.And still.Put him out.He's got the power, he's got the power.

Look, this is where, if I was on the slot, I'd be looking at the sort of executive and the owners and saying, look, you've got to back me here or you've got to sort of get...Because the reality is, they've got to choose a horse, haven't they?

But you're saying back me.It's going to be his last game.You're picking a team, pick the team you think is best to win the game.

But he's going to definitely be the best.speaking to the hierarchy at Liverpool and saying, look, this is a breach of trust.

He's leaving next week, Gary.

It's a breach of discipline, isn't it?Saying that publicly is a breach of discipline.

Is it?How?

Oh, Roy.Well, can he get fined for it?Look, I would say that to me is a breach of discipline in terms of team ethic.Would you fine him for it?No, it's a team ethic.You think that's normal?

You're saying the team...I'm not saying he's not entitled to say it, and I can understand...

I know, but we used to say, nothing gets in, nothing gets out.

You said before, Roy, about the team being the most important.That is very much...That is whatever you call it, and these players, to be fair, I do make statements like this.

You say the team's the most important, but on the other side, you're going, Bruno's assists are brilliant.It's the team.

I know, but the team...This is a direct attack on the...It is a direct attack on the style of play, the manager, the team.It is a direct attack.

Has he not done it with Klopp?He's done it with Klopp, he started throwing his arms up at Klopp.I think it was at West Ham.He's got previous Salah.But the reason, we've had this conversation before.

How would you deal with this then?

The reason with Salah, we mentioned about Ronaldo.Why do we let these players off with this stuff?Pochettini was here talking about going back to Maradona.Why do you tolerate all these boys?Because they win you a game on the weekend.You wouldn't tolerate that from an average full -back.

You wouldn't, but what comes with greatness, whether it be Ronnie or Sullivan, Alex, go back to Georgie Best, there's an edge to them.They will get things off their chest, they will go drinking, they will go missing, but you go, do you know what, I kind of need them.So what do you think of...I don't think they need Sal at the moment.Why do you think I left Man United at 34?Do you think Ferguson would have got rid of me when I was 24?

No.

Absolutely not.

But what do you think if Shabaz Lai, Kyrgz, Jones supporting you?I mean, Jones obviously in particular.

Well, you've had your time with them as well.You might pull them pre -season.But you wait.You wait and you go, lads.

It's mad how we're talking about likes on a social media post, isn't it?With all the actual, you are right, the on -field problems and we're saying...But a like doesn't help.

But a manager's job, every day you're going slot at the moment, just putting fires out.So that's just annoying.fire he's going to have.

But a like is an approval of a statement.

Yeah.

The guys who have liked it, they know exactly what they're doing.

But do you think he cares so much about Liverpool, he's put that out?What do you think the reason is that he's put that out?

Who do you think Salah cares about the most?Himself.

Obviously.

That's fine.That's the selfishness of a footballer.Look after yourself.We did the same with the contract.Was it two years ago he was interviewing and went, this might be my last time at Old Trafford?He's been giving message out for the last few years.

Eventually signs his deal.That's how he rolls.But everyone's kind of forgiven him.Jamie just said that Liverpool fans are going to give him a go.great send -off and Jamie sat here many times going, the most important man at Liverpool is the manager.Obviously not at this moment in time because if Salah gets a good send -off then that's fine.

He seems he can do what he wants.

Well, that's a good point to move into that, because you said manager, because nobody in the league is called manager anymore.Right.From Javi Alonso.Javi Alonso?He's usually head coach, so has been given a four -year deal by Chelsea.Do we think that's...

Means nothing.

...a positive move?No, to be honest with you, two things I will be absolutely certain of with Javi Alonso's contract, he's obviously taken control, he's got manager.he will have a horrific penalty on the club if they get rid of him in the first couple of years.He will put some sort of what would be clause in there that will make him very competitive.

Can you imagine him going in to do the contract with Chelsea?They're desperate, aren't they?He could literally ask for what he wanted there, so good luck to him.That's when you're most powerful.Absolutely.When you get in there, Roy, I think he'll do well for himself.

But is it exciting for Chelsea to have a manager that's...Well, revered, obviously, I think, in Germany, obviously, for what he did.And they found it tough at Real Madrid.

Yeah, but that's the players, and maybe that just shows he maybe weren't ready for that.Even though he's a player of stature, he weren't ready to go in that dressing room and lead it.But we're talking about somebody now who plays a style of football.with a team that's not a Champions League, they're going to have one game, he's got every opportunity to really instil a real good project at Chelsea with those players.And obviously if they're going to buy the players that he'll want...And what system does he play?

He's five at Leverkusen, isn't he?Yeah.

Does he play three at the back?

Three at the back.

But I think he'd be willing to...I don't think he's, like, as set on that as, like, say, I don't know, like, a Namerim or whatever.I think he'll have to...

He could be good there.When the news comes out, he'll be like, yeah, I can see that.

He'll get respect after the morning.

Chelsea are very lucky that he's available at this time to get a manager like him to come and sort them out where they are in that chaotic vibe.I saw an interview with Todd Bowley the other day and he said there was a season he had to take over, he didn't have a clue what he was doing.He didn't even know what he was doing.He was from America.He didn't know what was going on and he was making all these deals.It was like, you could tell.

They've got this manager at the perfect time for them, Chelsea.It's unbelievable that he's fallen.Hopefully they don't mess it up with him.

Because they have got some talented players, haven't they?Yeah.They need some experience in the spine.They needed a goalkeeper, they sent her back and they sent her forward.

I think they did alright in the FA Cup final.They made it difficult for City.It was a nothing game, wasn't it?Yeah, but I thought it was going to be easier for City.

It was sad watching the FA Cup.The FA Cup, yeah.

I said this to you two earlier on the season, I said the FA Cup has got an identity crisis.It was depressing.Should it still be the last game of the season?Of course it should.

You know, we got lost in everything.There was so many games on.When I was younger, the FA Cup was the only game on, and you built up all through the week, and everything was perfect.And I was watching, and I said, this is...It's gone.

It's gone.Righty.We have literally come in this morning, we've talked about three or four issues, and we've not even met.the FA Cup final.How can that be?That can be, exactly.

I think when ITV lost it, that's when...That's true, Roy.

That's when it really went down.

That's when he lost his identity.It lost us.

Yeah, Ant and Dec. I remember when I was younger, I was able to watch the rounds and everything.I was watching everything.I can't do that now.You can watch the final...

Do you know what's a great example for Pep?So, Pep wins the FA Cup.And all the other managers over the last few years who take chances with the FA Cup, they don't prioritise it.I understand the relegation battle or whatever, but teams are mid -table, and you see Pep, who's one of the greatest managers of all time, going all out to win these Cups.Managers must, or coaches, must look at Pep and go, well, he keeps wanting to win stuff.Why shouldn't we try and do it?

And that man about mid -table clubs who were going along nicely and come to the FA Cup, they don't make an effort for it.

I've got to point out for that, Fulham.If I'm Fulham fans, I'll be devastated.Fulham are so disappointing.Fulham more than anything.in the way that they don't go for it.Even this season, dropping players to play, leaving players out to play against Southampton.

That last season.

If they improve their league position by a couple of places, it gives them more money and more prestige than the FA Cup.

It's wrong, it's wrong, I know.Look what Palace went through last week.

They've given their fans something.It's mad.It's just like, for the sake of the money, And the way the FA Cup's gone, it's because of the...Yeah, but then you get Europe as well, you know what I mean?

There's so many incentives for you to...What we can't change is what's happening, though, with the competition.And to be fair, on Saturday, one thing I took after the game was, I thought, if you're Pep Guardiola in a transition period and you're winning two trophies and you're still knocking on the door for the league, it's still a good season for Manchester City.There was no disrespect to Manchester City about the FA Cup final.And I was happy when United...

But if you're a manager and you're looking at Pep, I know.If any manager could kind of dismiss the FA Cup, it's probably Pep going, he's won everything.City have got maybe other priorities, obviously Europe will get knocked out but still early in the season.But other managers must look at Pep and go, why is he so desperate to win this Cup?And he's won all the big prizes.I'm a manager who's won nothing, I might have managed hundreds of games but you can have a chance of a little bit of A bit of glory.

What do we think about the attire?We know that Pep always wears a polo neck and the Chelsea manager wore a track suit.What do we think about that when we saw it walking out on Saturday?

It's gone, isn't it?It's gone because, like...You should be smart on FA Cup day.You know, it's the suits...And the same with...You know, it started for me when they started making the semifinals go to work.

I'll never get over that.

I will never get over it.

Then no suits.You know, this is the thing that you built up all week.You went and measured your suits, you came on to the pitch in your suits.You saw the players in the hotels.I know it's a bit nostalgic, but they've taken everything away.It was like...

A song, but no single.Did they bring a song out?No, they didn't bring a song out.You know the only thing that reminded me of it back in the day?Bring back Top of the Pops as well.Remember the song?

What's the song we always sing at the FA Cup final?Oh, Abide With Me.Abide With Me.That's the only thing that took me back, cos that was always in it.

Yeah.

Everything else is gone.It's gone.

Imagine scoring in an FA Cup final.It is the history of it.When I seen Martinez, the first thing I thought was Wigan when they won the FA Cup.I think of Sunderland, I wasn't even born.1973, we beat Leeds in the FA Cup final.That's what you get told about your club.

It's the history.

How's it come back?To be fair, I must admit, how's it come back, the FA Cup?

Last game of the season, I think that's a good one.

ITV, get her back on ITV.They'd be playing at the end of the season.It is weird when the league is still going on.But that tells you the priority, obviously.The league is more important in terms of...

Put them all in suits, bring a song out.

But you're talking about managers in track suits.The only point I would make, obviously, managers try and wear what you're comfortable in, of course.But if you're going to wear a tracksuit, wear a nice one.You know what I mean?Don't wear one that looks 15 years old, that's got, like, bubbles on it.Wow.

What did you wear?And I don't mean that... as a manager.

I'm glad he did.It will never come back.

It'll never come back.So the FA Cup's gone forever?The FA Cup and the way that people perceive it is gone.

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Oh, is this...Did work?

Is it over?Yeah.There's another game to go in.It's lovely.It's really clean.

That is really nice.

It is.Oh, I wonder who wins it.

Oh, wow.

What's going on here?What's going on?It's a little bit of a change, isn't it?So, that's all right, innit?Perfect.Well, what we'll do is, before we get into this, we'll just...

Yeah, look how much I want for us.Look how much I want.

Oh, it's all about you.I'm on there as well.

Can we listen to Ben?

So, for the...Let him speak, Gill.For the third year running, Gary's team has beaten Roy's team.

It's not over yet.It is.How is it?

So, final score...This game's next.Gary and Jamie, 159.Roy, Ian and Gill, 138.

Yeah, but there's games.This game's next, Roy.

Well, join the league and keep playing, then.

Thank you.Thank you.

That's just...

I'm really not happy with that.Winning trophies matters, you know what I mean?Thank you to David Moyes, to Wayne Rooney, to Paul Scholes, to Jamie Carragher.

David Moyes.

You left Jamie last time.

How can we do that when there's a week left?There's a week.Is that a given answer?

There we go.It's ridiculous.It's a beautiful trophy.Can I take this home with me?Thank you.Thank you on behalf of my teammates that aren't here today.

I said more than that.

Congratulations.

Well done, Gary.

Ow!Stay there, just behind me.Hey, what's that?There for the rest of this.You didn't say that.Next season, please, that needs to be there.

Liverpool and...

Chill, well done, we'll finish.But we're also going to do your...Wow, you put yourself out there.

..revisit your hot takes from earlier in the season.Oh, wow.And see who's getting some...

I'll tell you what, I was a lot closer.I remember Carragher when he laughed at this one.

He did, yeah.Yeah.Youse actually laughed at mine as well.

Oh, Roy!Roy!That's the best one, isn't it?I should get more than 10 ,000.How can that be the best one?Of course it will, I've got no other distractions.

How do you feel you all did?

I tell you what, we were all quite close, you know.I think I said top four.

Roy's buttoned it.Jill's buttoned it.Ian's buttoned it.No, not Ian, has he?Chelsea won't make it past the Champions League group stage.They did, though, didn't they?

They did.So, Jamie's...

He's out.

Liverpool won't...

So, Parra's out.He can't have any kind of, like, any kind of progress from me.You always bring it down.Ian's the worst one.Ian's the worst one.

Bournemouth will stay up.Bournemouth isn't.Let's be clear.Only in that.Liverpool league table.No, cos if mine does come true, by the way...

What are the odds of my one of two teams?

Two of the teams.

You know you will finish top six.What a prediction that is.

You laughed at it.

You laughed at it.Yeah, because it was so funny, because obviously we're going to do it.

No, you were all saying the one guest champion...

You know you're going to finish in the top half.It's all on camera.Top half.OK, so what I was...We're the teams that were coming...I said Chelsea were going to start in the top four or five, you all laughed.

My view here is, personally, my view is, at the moment, Roy is winning.Definitely.OK?Hang on, hang on, hang on.At the moment, Roy is winning.Oh, my God.

Hear me out, Wrighton, hear me out.Go on, then, he's an honest man.Hear me out.If Bournemouth were to beat City...Yeah...

and then go past Liverpool and then go into the Champions League, That would be, like, massive.Would that be roasting, like, lava to you?

We can discuss that when we meet up next season.

I know, but then it also, righty...Righty also brings mine into play, which means Liverpool wouldn't be in the Champions League if Bournemouth went past them.

Which is a great show.

Which would be unbelievable.Unbelievable, yeah.From where they are.So, I think we've got...So, at the moment, who's got the best show?Roy.

Roy.At the moment.He's also on one, so it's definitely Roy.

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What a silly idea.What Stick to Football is brought to you by Armed Clothing.I just thought, do you know something?I mean, obviously Celtic, well done to them, they've won the trophy.Martin, who's been on the show, incredible achievement, well done.I felt so sorry for them.

You watched the whole game, did you stick with it?

I stuck with it.It's tough, isn't it?

It's very tough, because you know what?And they scored first in that place, I thought, you know what?

They've got to get to half -time or one.

Absolutely right.

They've got to get to half -time or one.But then the penalty, Roy.I thought, penalty again.But even before that, Roy, did he give the boss?But do you know what?What we love, truthfully, Hatia, Rexling, But top -level sport, it's brutal.

It's a reminder to everybody.You're trying to win stuff.Win stuff.Win.Not assists or corners, except you've got to win stuff.

And it's brutal, but that's why we love it.I love watching top -level sport.It was so cruel.

It was cruel, but that's why we love it.If it wasn't cruel, we'd be blasé about it.

How many years has it been, over 36?No.

Well, a hat is 66.

No, since it was Celtic or Rangers.

It was 42, wasn't it?

Wasn't it Alex Ferguson?I'm on about hats, weren't I?

For another team outside of the classroom.

Wasn't it Alex Ferguson?

Yeah.

Yeah.Long time.

I think that was just...It sounds crazy.I mean, obviously, if you're a Celtic fan, you're going to be absolutely not listening to this whatsoever, but it felt like it did need, or does need, doesn't it?

A heart to win.It does need.Yeah, but Tony Bloom's in there.Yeah, yeah.Listen, he's...You know what I mean?

He's...

His plan was...This is his first season.I know.So, can you imagine?Yeah.That's their first season.

That's what I would probably say to them.I know they had to leave with their fucking clothes in their hands, because they couldn't even get changed there.Why?

Because the fans were in the dressing room?

Yeah, the fans went crazy there.But, like, you know, that's going to happen.I remember being there when one of those things happened and waiting for you outside.Credit to Celtic, then.

You've got...His hat's brilliant, with Celtic hung in there.The ups and downs, changing managers.Martin going in, and Martin showed why he's a top manager.Yeah.Managing.

How cool did Martin look by the way?He's worn tracksuits before.

That green tracksuit is gorgeous.

That green tracksuit with the little...It wouldn't have been cool inside, let me tell you that.Oh yeah.To get him over the lane.Martin's done a brilliant job.Then to prepare his staff and the players.

Again, the top players found a way to win.It wasn't pretty in the game.I think they've won the last seven league games.

Do you think it shows how important it is, Roy?Obviously, he's gone in tactically, technically you can't change too much, but his level of emotional intelligence, do you think we'll overthink that sometimes in the prep?We haven't got a lot of managers that seem to get the best out of players.

We're on about managers, we're on about coaches now, but Martin would have managed the club.There was a lot of off -the -field stuff going on with fans and the board, I'm not saying that's gone away, but he managed to get everyone onside.bands at the end, board, that's management, that's experience that Mariton has got and I've worked with him and that's probably certainly one of Mariton's biggest strengths, bringing people together.

But he did unify, he has unified them hasn't he?

So good, I was so happy for him, so happy for him.

I was happy for him actually and I just, he just felt like, I mean to be fair also there's an element of sometimes respecting the fact that the big club gets that last minute win.There was an element of that as well because...

Remember, Martin is 74 years of age, right?Martin's had a brilliant career and he's probably got a nice life.But he ran up with a fire in his belly and one day Martin goes up to Celtic and he doesn't bring staff in.Sometimes you go, I've got a couple of lads I bring with me.He's gone in there walking with people he's never walked with and he's getting all them onside and getting his footballing points across to people.We're talking about projects and managers need time.

He didn't need time.He went into a group of players, got a grip of them, managed upwards as well with the board and all the fans and whatever was going on up there and he got them winning football matches and he got them over the line and they've got a Cup final next week.So for a manager to go into a club where he was in disarray, that's top level management.

If Martin don't go in, they don't win that.

No, no.

Hearts win that.That's the thing for Hearts.Unfortunately, either one came in and did it.

And if you're Celtic, again, we were back one week at night, if you have a home team,to win the league, you take it, wouldn't you?You can get over the line.

Even when it was 1 -0, you just felt like...Hearts had to get the half -time 1 -0.

Even their decision -making before the penalty, I was looking at possession.It's amazing where teams can be compact and neat and tidy, and then they get a goal up, they get on a bit, they start making strange decisions, instead of just keep it, or win a foul, just get half -time, two or three minutes.

I mean, it's a brilliant moment for Celtic fans at the end, when the lad just runs clear, cos you know he put it in.But do you know something, it drove me absolutely crazy, cos the Hearts coach had stopped the keeper going in, I think, two corners before...Did he say to stop?No, cos it showed him just going, like, no, no, no.I thought, he must be talking to the goalkeeper.He stopped him going up once, I'm thinking, what's the benefit of having the keeper?

You might as well shove another outfield player in there and have the goalkeeper at the edge of the box, you know what I mean?

We go back to it, the importance of set -piece is sending people up, the delivery.So how do you think, unless we've got one last chance, we send the keeper, whatever they might be doing, the madness of football, but you've got to put a good delivery in the right place.You don't get good delivery, that's the key.Talking about set -piece and movement, it's got to be good delivery.And that wasn't, but listen, the table doesn't lie.Best team always wins the league, and the three worst teams get relegated.

That'll never change.And on that note...

Well done.

Well done this morning.We've provided some good...We've provided some good assists.

It's all about the assists.

It's all about the assists.

All about the assists.Are we having these on...No, but you can just take those with you now.Speak with your mouth full, Ian.No, I've only got a little...

OK, let's have a picture.Is Howard here?Howard, you here?