Savannah, Annie, and Tommaso visit Nancy Guthrie memorial — detained man speaks out, describes raid

Hey guys, thanks so much for checking out my show. I really, really appreciate it. Please click to subscribe. Today is day 30 in the search for Nancy Guthrie. It is Monday. I'm in Nancy's neighborhood right now.

Her house is actually right here. And I was telling you guys in another episode, you know, there are certain times when you're covering this where sort of the emotion of it really hits you. And sometimes I get so wrapped up in the investigation and trying to chase down leads but then one day something will happen and you'll kind of just realize

just how awful this whole thing is on an emotional level and today was one of those days and it's because Savannah Guthrie, Nancy's daughter of course, and her sister Annie Guthrie and Annie's husband Tommaso, they came here to Nancy's house and they left some flowers and a card and it's the first time that we've seen them all here

at the house and I'm gonna show you guys, I mean it was just a really, really emotional moment. So I'll get into that in this episode. Also, I was just over at the lawyer's office for the man whose house, the second raid that happened, the one where I got very, very close, he has a lawyer now. This is the one that was like two miles from here. Remember when the SWAT team

was there and everything, Luke Daly. And I was just talking to his lawyer about what is happening behind the scenes. There was apparently this federal search warrant. What has he been able to figure out about why his client may have been tied into all this? He says, by the way, that his client has absolutely nothing to do with the Nancy Guthrie disappearance. Interesting though, he was, I said,

well, does your client or his mom, because remember it was his mom's house, have any, have they ever met Nancy Guthrie? Do they know anything about her? And they actually, the mom actually had met her and he tells that story. But I'm going to get into all of that. Really, really interesting conversation.

And the latest on the investigation, again, it's now day 30 in this episode of Bryan Enton Investigates. Hey guys. All right. So I'm outside Nancy's house and I was telling you, it's really the first time that we have seen Savannah Guthrie and her family here, at least publicly. There was that one day, you guys remember I told you that there was that SUV that showed up

that went into the garage. We weren't able to see who got out. I do believe it was family then too, but this time they weren't hiding in any way and came to see the flowers and candles and cards that people have left for Nancy.

I called it a memorial earlier, and then I thought about it. I guess that would just be for someone who's passed away. And of course we don't know that Nancy has passed away. We hope she's still alive. So I guess I probably shouldn't call it a memorial,

but they clearly wanted to see it for themselves. And it was just a News Nation crew who was here and one other network. And I'm glad no one really tried to ask any questions or anything, which I'm glad about. I'm glad they got to just have their moment. So I want to play for you that whole kind of moment. And I think it's important, again, just because it shows what they're going through

and kind of reminds all of us the emotional impact this has had on them and why this is just such a sad case when you think about 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie missing and what her family is going through. So I just want to play you this moment, the whole raw thing, just so you can see it for

I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.

I'm going to go to the bathroom. Oh, oh, oh. I'm going to go get some more food. So yeah, I mean, just so, so sad to see that. And you could clearly hear, I think it was, it was Annie who was, who was weeping. And you just imagine, I mean, again, Nancy's lived here since the 1970s. This is the house that they grew up in. So you just imagine what this must be like for them to be back here in this moment. And you saw they left behind a card.

The card said, Mama, we miss you so much. Our hearts are broken. We are standing on ash, on scored earth. But mom, though we are surrounded by so much darkness and uncertainty, our love burns bright. We love you, mommy. We miss you so much, our best friend." And then Savannah later posted on Instagram this post with a picture of all the flowers. And there's so many flowers out here

now. I mean, they've really grown over the last week or so. One of the neighbors has actually come out and watered them too. And Savannah posted, we feel the love and prayers from our neighbors, from the Tucson community and from around the country. Please don't stop praying and hoping with us, bring her home. So just really emotional to see them out here. Kind of switching over into the latest

with the investigation though, I've told you guys that there's been sort of a shuffling of resources. A lot of the FBI agents have gone back to Phoenix. With the Pima County Sheriff's Office, we know that there's some detectives working on the case full time and there's this task force now that's detectives and FBI working together, but it's not all the detectives

like it was before, which is, it's been, you know, 30 days now that's naturally going to happen. Although it's still a very active investigation. People have asked me, do I think it's a cold case? I don't think it's a cold case. And I do think we're going to see a resolution here. It might just not be as soon as we hoped. You guys remember there was that raid with the SWAT team and the FBI that happened just two miles from Nancy's house a couple of weeks ago. The one, it was a Friday night, it was the one where I got into the perimeter. It was really intense and we actually thought this was finally going to be it because there was so much law enforcement and they served this federal search warrant at this home and then they also pulled over a man just like a few blocks away in that Range Rover. His name was

Luke Daly and then they impounded the Range Rover and then it was his mom's house that they searched. While I'm learning now more about what happened behind the scenes, I actually just interviewed Luke Daly now has a lawyer who says he's totally innocent, kind of similar to Carlos. Remember the first raid that happened in Rio Rico? He also got a lawyer. They say that they actually have nothing to do with Nancy Guthrie. Same thing happening here. But I learned some interesting things from the lawyer about what he has learned about exactly what went down. And they really searched that house.

They really searched the Range Rover, what they may have been looking for. And also one interaction he says that his client did have with Nancy Guthrie, his client's mom actually, years ago. So this is my conversation with Luke Daly's lawyer. We were out there, you know, when all of this went down at Luke and Mary's house,

you know, and then it kind of blew over. What happened? I mean, can you walk us through what actually happened? Did they just, was it a federal search warrant or?

Yes, it was. A federal search warrant was executed on the house and contemporaneous to that, to Luke's vehicle. So he was stopped, ultimately pulled over in a Culver's. You know, the house was being raided at the same time. And, you know, the mom was at the house and she was, you know, kind of detained for about six to seven hours. Luke was at the house and she was you know kind of detained for about six to seven hours. Luke was in the car he was detained for about the same amount of time maybe a little less than he was released and then when he couldn't go

back home immediately and then when he went back home his mom wasn't there and that the house was destroyed like the bottom floor of it specifically. The car was also damaged through the search. He couldn't find his mom. He was worried. It was really a traumatic experience for the family. Then they were... she ended up staying at a friend's house in the neighborhood.

They got reacquainted the next day. And then Mary, the mom, she ended up, because of the constant presence of media, but also new media, she ended up going to stay

with her son up in Phoenix area.

Was it Luke's Range Rover? Because when we were up there, there was a Range Rover.

Yeah, it was.

Has he gotten that back yet?

He has. He has. He has. He has. So they tested it, left it with all kind of still destroyed a bit, but it was returned.

And when they do a search like that, do they have to give you a copy of the search warrant?

Typically they do. I didn't see one produced for, they may have, I don't know. I didn't see one produced for the dailies. I wasn't given one. Obviously we still haven't seen or had access to the affidavit

that undergirded the warrant.

Do you have any idea why they chose Luke and his mom and that house and the car?

I do not. I do not. And obviously and obviously we're very very curious to See this affidavit But I I don't

And Luke does not either nor does his mom the other man Carlos We interviewed his lawyer the one who is from Rio Rico kind of a similar situation, right? And you know, he was a delivery driver and his lawyer thought maybe like he had been in that air Maybe you know just with the geofencing that may have connected him to that area. Do you think it's this, I mean, did they say if they drove through that area, your clients?

It would be rank speculation on my part. I have no clue what undergirded it. I mean, we were speculating that maybe some confidential source threw his name out there for some reason, we have no idea. But as far as we're concerned, it was completely baseless and he's going nowhere. And as this storm of media and this beast that needs to be fed passes, you know, with Iran happening now and other stories

taking primary position, the problem is that you still have the sort of destruction of people's lives in the wake of this story that moves on imminently and inevitably, but the dailies are left picking up the pieces literally of their home which was destroying the search warrant as well as their tattered reputation so that's why they finally you know decided to come out and speak to the press

just to get their story out there and proclaim their innocence and wish the Guthries their best.

Do they have any connection to Nancy Guthrie?

They live in the same area.

That's it. But they've never met her or anyone in her family?

My understanding, Mary Daly years, years ago had a circumstance where they ran into each other and I think she was with Savannah. I mean maybe out at a grocery store or something like that, but rather inconsequential.

Just like she was, Mary was a fan sort of thing? Like that kind of run in, like she saw them, or?

I don't even know the circumstance,

I just was informed by Mary that years ago that happened.

But no, so they're not friends or anything? No. No. No, No. What happened at their house? Like, I mean, they were, because we were out there, they were there for a long time. Like in terms of, did they search the whole house or?

Meticulously and destructively. They went through the whole, you know, ground floor, breaking doors that if they were locked, breaking the doors

and just leaving no stone unturned.

Could you tell or could they tell what they were looking for?

No, and Mary didn't know I don't even think she Initially is my understanding that she didn't know that they had warrants and she was just being helpful like yeah any way we can help and and she was detained and put in the back of the car and Sat there for hours and hours and hours and actually was able to go into a neighbor's home for a while and she ended up sleeping at the neighbor's home but that's what happened.

Did they take their phones?

They took Luke's. I don't know about Mary. They did take Luke's. I don't have any results of a dump or a download from that.

But he got it back?

Unsure of that.

Okay, because I know Carlos, the other situation, I don't think he's even gotten his back

still or as of a week ago. I'm saying unsure, I don't think that he's gotten it back.

He's told me he's gotten the car back of course and they have think they still have the car. Excuse me, the phone. Did he, was there a brother too? Does Luke have a brother?

Luke does, and the mom, who's elderly and has some health issues, the stress of this absolutely was detrimental to her mental health as well as her physical well-being.

And she went to live with her son Matt up in the Phoenix area.

So, yeah, because initially we heard something like there was a man detained in a Range Rover and then there was a mom and another man or another brother detained at the house. I guess that's...

The other brother was never detained, is my understanding.

Okay. What was the other question I was going to ask you? I mean, you, a long-time lawyer, I mean, do you think that should authorities come out and clear them? Because like you said, his name is now everywhere, the same with Carlos, the one from Rio Rico. Do you think

they need to make a public statement or something? That's one of the things that the Dailies are seeking. Again, as I mentioned just a moment ago, a storm can't come through, destroy things, reputations, lives, homes, and then when that's gone, who's to pay the cost? Who's to pick up those pieces? There is collateral damage in these situations that gets largely forgotten. So at the very least, the dailies are seeking to clear their name.

One of the reasons why they came, frankly the foremost reason why they even agreed to talk to the press. This was dying down, the story was dying down, and they're not seeking attention. But although the story's dying down, the internet sleuths are still throwing his name about

Luke.

He's still getting dirty looks from when he goes out. And it absolutely should be clearing his name. So that's something that we'll be seeking and hope will be forthcoming.

Do you think you'll be able to see the search warrant? I mean, do they have a right to be able to see why their house was-

Look, the law enforcement can blame not allowing or unsealing the search warrant on an ongoing investigation. At some point, whether it's through litigation or otherwise, I will be finding out what's in that search warrant.

Okay. And just sort of bigger picture since, how long have you lived in Tucson?

A while, right?

I've lived here 20 years. What do you make of the whole situation? I mean, you mentioned, you know, it's kind of dying down a little. Obviously Iran is happening now, but the whole, the whole situation. Yeah. Tragic. I mean, truly tragic. We're, we're a small, large town. Um, everyone knew the Guthrie's and

you know, when, when this information is trickling down to my kids as well, and I'm sure that's happening across town, it's, it's really unfortunate unfortunate we live in a great community and it's a tragic thing that happened to the Guthrie family and my my clients are praying for

them I'm praying for them everyone I know is. Is it unusual for them to sorry for them to do a search warrant like that for people who are totally un, I mean, have you had situations happen like this before? I mean, I was, again, SWAT team, it was, we saw, I mean, dozens of FBI, like we thought this is it.

Look, I mean, there's no question that that was overkill. There's no question, but, and nothing's come of it. Yeah, so you can do the deductions yourself.

And just one last question I just thought of. Did they take anything else with them besides the phone?

That question was asked to my clients, and my understanding is that they took nothing else of interest or of anything.

I wonder what they were looking for.

Likewise. Yeah. Anything else? Not for me.

So it'll be interesting, you know, we've tried to get a lot of these search warrants and documents and everything is sealed right now at the courthouse. We've made several trips over to the courthouse and that was a federal search warrant. And even the lawyer says he hasn't had a chance to see the affidavit and exactly why they were connecting his client back to the Nancy Guthrie case. So once we're able to get some of those documents, it'll be interesting. My gut says it might have to do with geofencing. Remember with Carlos, the first man who was detained, turned out he was a delivery driver, may have driven through the area, may be caught up in

the geofencing, which is when the FBI goes in and finds everyone whose cell phone was in this area around a certain time frame. Perhaps that's what the deal is with Luke Daly also, although he says and his lawyer says that he actually was never in this area. So we'll have to wait and see what is actually going to potentially connect him to all this. Although again, his lawyer says he's not connected at all. But there had to be something in that search warrant, because again, you can't just get a federal search warrant without, they must have had some meat on the bones, even if it

didn't pan out. There had to be something there for them to be able to go in, take his cell phone, detain him and his mom, search the whole house. And you heard the way he described the way that they searched the house. So we'll keep trying to get it. At some point, they'll have to unseal it. It might not be soon though, but we'll keep trying. I mentioned it's been one month now since Nancy went missing. I've gotten to know a

lot of the neighbors out here. I told you guys, you know, the sheriff made it difficult for us and the county, you know, no parking allowed out here anymore. But the neighbors, we've gotten to know very well. We kind of know them and all their dogs because they And one of the neighbors has been especially nice, who I see all the time, a guy named Jeff. And he actually lives right behind Nancy Guthrie's house. You can see Nancy Guthrie's house from Jeff's backyard. And he'd met Nancy several times before and just has an interesting insight

into what the neighborhood is like, how everybody's doing now, and what he thinks may have happened. So I wanted to, I just talked with Jeff a little while ago. I wanted you guys to hear that conversation. So Jeff, you live kind of behind Nancy Guthrie,

kind of to the side.

Sure, around the corner.

Around the corner.

A few doors down.

How are you and your wife doing? You know, it's been about a month now.

I think collectively, the entire neighborhood, obviously are saddened, hopeful at times. We've had some moments where we thought there was a breakthrough and we thought that there could be resolution. But we are still trying to keep that hope. I know there was talk of a vehicle potentially identified and

some other leads. And I think even us talking today and what the media is doing is to keep this, keep awareness, keep people, directing people to the tip line, making people aware about their reward, and keeping people aware of what has happened.

Yeah.

How long have you lived here? About six years. Six years, and I can't remember, where are you guys from again?

Originally back east, but most recently New Mexico.

New Mexico, okay.

And it seems like a lot of people here moved here from somewhere else. You know it's funny there are some long-timers. My understanding is that Nancy's lived here since 1975. Yeah. There's some folks who are more recent arrivals. You have folks who've retired. You know there are some snowbirds. So it's kind of a

mixture. How would you describe the neighborhood? Because people who haven't been here, it's different. You have to kind of know it to really understand it.

It's beautiful. It's a beautiful backdrop of desert. As you see the mountains to my left, I mean, they're stunning. It's quiet. It's serene. But it is very safe.

I know this was a shocking event. I mean, nothing of this nature has ever occurred. So this was really beyond surprising. How did you first find out about it? Sunday afternoon, we saw helicopter traffic above us. And then we saw a large response of folks

from the Sheriff's Department. And later on, actually an incredible response from a large response of folks from the Sheriff's Department. And later on, actually, an incredible response from a volunteer crew of folks who do rescue in the mountains, of lost hikers, or what have you, who did a thorough searching through the neighborhood. And then, ultimately, we were reached out to,

as were all our neighbors, about Ring Video, about had we seen anything, obviously giving access to our properties. I mean, immediately we all looked through our properties, seeing if we could find anything. And unfortunately, as we all know, we are where we are.

Have you had any issues here before? Any trouble?

No, not at all.

Burglars or anything?

No, I mean, people in the summer when it's hot, people jog at 11 o'clock at night. They walk their dogs late at night, early morning. I mean, this is a very, very safe neighborhood.

So you haven't had any neighbors burglarized or anything like that?

Not to my knowledge, no.

So you never were worried about anything really?

No, I mean, some people don't lock their doors. We would. You know, people have Ring videos. I mean, that's just become almost common everywhere. But I think people do feel very safe here. I think people were not fearful, but just obviously, most of all, upset for her and her family, because this is terrible.

But also, just hoping that we can have some sort of resolution. And ideally, I know it's just the hope that probably So, just hoping that we can have some sort of resolution. And ideally, I know it's just the hope that perhaps even a positive resolution.

So this is the kind of place people don't lock their doors?

Some don't, we've heard that, you know, and it is an incredibly safe neighborhood.

Yeah, I've wondered that about Nancy. Like maybe, she's lived here so long, sometimes people, maybe she didn't lock her doors.

I don't know. I know, of course, we all know that she did have a security camera. Yeah. And that's something that, you know, I mean, in theory, I guess you could say

this could happen anywhere, but it is definitely anomaly.

So this area behind your house, because it kind of butts up to Nancy's also, is this just open area?

So there's, I mean, it's, you know, the properties go back and there are some, as you see, some sort of trails that connect some of the properties, but it's scrub. I mean, it's cactus, it's trees, it's palo verdes, it's it's rock. I mean it's it's it's it's really natural. So it's not a very accessible area. But

there are little trails? Well I mean some very small ones. I know kids, we were told the legend was, used to grab the school bus and cut through the there's sort of like a sort of utility road off to our left. I mean there are some Connectors, okay, but in general this is a very very I wouldn't say inhospitable, but it's natural Does anyone go back there ever? No, like neighbors don't people don't walk through there. No, not at all You know, I mean occasionally the utility road you'll see someone obviously from the utility company and what-have-you but this is part of the charm of this area, having privacy and solitude. But ironically,

people are now reaching out to each other, connecting with each other, I think keeping an eye on each other. There's talk of a neighborhood watch. There are folks who have maybe lost their spouse or partner and live alone and kind of making people aware that, hey, if you have a need, call us. Bang on our door, it's okay, you know, because we are a little bit distant from each other, you know, with the lots and I think it's actually caused a lot of conversation and processing.

Yeah, some people have asked me like, oh, are the neighbors scared? Because like other cases I've covered, you know, when something's unsolved, like people will be really scared. But I don't really get that sense here.

Not at all.

I mean, I met you walking your dogs.

Yeah, I think people are most of all saddened and supportive. They want to be respectful of the family. This is something that I know it's a bizarre event, but everyone has a parent. Everybody has a mother. And it's relatable that, you know, people age

and they're concerned about aging parents. And I think it's just really,

it's been something to process for people. Yeah. Did you ever meet Nancy?

Just hello, just this nice at ease when walking the dog. She had a dog at one

time. She had a black terrier. And you have a... Two papillons. Papillons, yeah. And one, the reason I met you is because one of your papillons is very friendly and one is very... A little spirited. Yeah, spirited is a good word. Yeah.

And we would say hello and we saw less of her as of late, but she was a part of the community, a person who lived in the neighborhood, living her life. I did not know, we did not know that her daughter is a major media figure, but I know folks in the neighborhood who've lived here 20 years who didn't know. She was a person who lived here, beautiful home, and part of the community in that sense.

For people, again, who don't know the area, would it be hard for an outsider to navigate their way in and out at night?

There are a lot of streets, you know, and it's sort of, we all have our ritual of where we walk and where we jog and what have you. But it is, there are a lot of streets and cul-de-sacs and what have you. So in that regard, yeah, it is a little tricky,

you know, to kind of learn your way around. And dark. You know, that's the thing is, a lot of that, we don't have overhead street lamps, you know, which is actually, you can see the beautiful stars and what have you. But a lot of the houses, our house,

two of our neighbors' houses are illuminated. You know, they have lighting around their house.

Yeah, you have like landscape lights, I noticed.

So, you know, as you're out and about, it's not at all dangerous in that regard. Sure, we don't have street lamps, but the houses are, many, many, many of the houses have landscape lighting.

Yeah.

Is it a strange feeling? Like, have you processed just that this happened so close? I mean, it's like literally right by your house.

Yeah, I know it is. I mean, we could see the back of her home and it's saddening because you're just, you know, it's a terrible event. And we don't know, of course, all the, truly what truly happened, but it's disturbing.

It's unsettling.

Are you surprised we don't know more? You know, we've now been a month.

I mean, that's the frustration is, as I noted, folks were beyond helpful to say, have our ring video, come to our house, interview us, talk to each other, trying to recall had they seen something odd, had they seen something unusual, and the reality is, and once again, every time there was a breakthrough and we thought there was going to be resolved, unfortunately it had not been. But I have to hope, I know the other day talk about the vehicle

that was perhaps the vehicle, we don't know, seen and with the reward, I understand there are more tips coming in, we have to keep some hope that maybe there'll be some sort of bit of information that will lead to something. Yeah. Anything else? No, no, just tell people. I think, you know, folks, you know, there is a value to having the story told so that people

might recall something. I also know, you know, in terms of the neighborhood, and you folks included have been so respectful and to the family and the community. I know that's been a hope of folks that we've seen

the value of the media doing that. There have been some podcasters where it's been different. And I think just across the board, folks are cherishing those who are bringing this information to others and hope that that overrides maybe the approach that some have taken

that is at times a little disruptive?

Yeah, I think mostly people have been pretty positive. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, well, thank you for welcoming us

into your neighborhood.

Oh, for sure, for sure. Appreciate it. Appreciate you for talking to me and being so supportive of the media that's out here. At KVOA, which is the local TV station where Savannah worked, which is just a couple of miles from here in town. There's this memorial that has grown

that says, bring her home. And again, I use the word memorial. Maybe that's not the right word, but there's a, you know, sort of just a place that people can come and sign and show their support for the Guthrie family.

And there's a ton of signatures out there. I was out there last night, there was people gathering. And that's actually the station where Savannah Guthrie worked. She worked her way up in local news, which is something that I can relate to. You start in a really, really small market

and then you try to climb your way up. I think Tucson was her second job. So that's why the banner happens to be at that station because that's where Savannah worked. And I talked to a couple of locals out there who are just, you know, invested in the case. They were actually surprised. They were surprised there hadn't been more sort of like vigils or, you know, gatherings that have been organized for the community to come together to think of Nancy.

But they were happy to go out to the memorial and I wanted you to listen to what they told me.

We just left her house. We're looking over there.

Just support. We hope for a safe return.

That's it.

Yeah, just been following. Yeah, you know, I really want to show our support.

So and you're from Tucson?

Yes. Yeah. Yes.

What do you think happened?

I don't know. There's just so much, so many, you know, theories and I don't know. It's just very, very sad, very sad. And yeah, I mean, I can see, you know, where she lived, you know, it's a safe community. You know, we've lived here all our lives and nothing like this has ever happened or it's just very odd, you know? It's, yeah, and you know, we live on the south side of town

and I feel safe there, you know? So it's not like it's an unsafe community. Tucson is very tight knit, so, you know, it's just very, it's very sad.

What are other people in town saying about it, like other locals?

I mean, just the same, like it's just such a mystery, you know, just, yeah, and, you know, just, we don't know, you know, just not knowing. So yeah, that's really what brought us out here, you know, just not knowing. So yeah, that's really what brought us out here, you know, just to show support. And, you know, we like to, you know, just-

Pray for his safety, too.

Yeah, I can't believe it's been 30 days.

I know, it's been a long time. It's shocking.

Did you think it would take this long?

No, no, honestly, no. It's been a long time. Did you think it would take this long? No. No, honestly, no.

It's been a long time.

Tucson really is such a nice community. Everybody has been so welcoming and just like those women, everybody is just really, really invested in the case. Obviously, everybody knows what's going on. They're following up with it and they're just hoping for some kind of resolution as we all are now that it is day 30,

which is hard to wrap your mind around. So we'll keep pounding the pavement. I've been trying to get more information from the Pima County Sheriff's Office. There's not a lot coming out right now, but it's interesting, a lot of people said,

all the reporting is right. Some people, I didn't report it, but some people said Savannah Guthrie had gone back to New York. That's obviously not the case because she was here at the house today. And obviously our heart goes out to her and her family with everything they're going through today which we witnessed for ourselves today. And we'll just continue to hope for a good resolution here.

So that's the latest today, Monday, day 30. So that's the latest today, Monday, day 30. I will talk to you guys later.