Saya Penggemar Rich Brian

Today we will talk with Rich Brian. Thank you for coming. I will say that I'm a big fan of you. Thank you. From day one, bro. Really? From the microwave bread.

Yeah.

That's the microwave bread.

And My Strange Addiction. My Strange Addiction, Kusyoti Lyoma.

Right?

Yeah.

That's from Day One I'm a fan of Radit too You're a fan because I'm a nerd Nerd? No, I mean, I've been watching you since a long time ago Oh yeah? Watching?

Malam Minggu Miko? I often watch the clips of Malam Minggu Miko I also remember watching the trailer of Radit's movie What's the name? Kuala Kumam, Marmot Merah Jambu

Usually movies are about books, right? But Cinta-Cinta Dinosaurus is about... Is that right? Brontosaurus It's been a long time

How old were you?

So young I don't know how I can watch it I just watched it on YouTube. And I know your brother, right? Yes, Sonia. Is he in Bali now?

He moved to Jakarta. Oh, he moved to Jakarta. I saw you, you're so amazing. I... The comedy was so good. I really like that kind of thing.

I really like that kind of thing. That's why when you made it on YouTube, I was happy. Then you went into music, you went out, I followed your songs too. I really like your album, Glow Like Death, there's that song, right? And also History. I really like History. Until I heard that song, I watched all the covers on YouTube.

Wow. I think I've never seen all the covers. Oh yeah? Just a few. That's crazy. Then I heard about you in Legend.

In the beginning of your appearance, Legend Legend is an example. Do you know when NigaHiga came here?

Oh, yes.

In the hotel.

He was beside me. Yes. He said, who is one of my YouTubers? Yes, that's right.

How was it?

Are you a YouTuber who is close to other YouTubers? Until you can have access to NigaHiga in Jakarta? Yes, I was once in Indonesia's YouTuber network. I was known as Benakribo. Benakribo. Yes, Benakribo. Then I was known as Candralio, Marlo, and Nesto.

And I was known as Arab from there too.

Okay.

Then, when Ryan Higa was going to Indonesia, he was having a YouTube event. We were watching it, but we didn't meet. The next day, someone called me. He said, Ryan Higa is in this hotel. He wants to have a meet and greet.

I came there right away. We took a photo together. That was an amazing achievement for us at that time. It was an amazing achievement.

Isn't it crazy?

And you came there at that time. I came. It was so cool. We came there and he was eating at the hotel. And we were eating at the next table.

Okay.

After he ate, we took a photo together. We were the photo entry. Crazy. Another legend I heard, you learn English. That's from Sonya, if I'm not mistaken. From watching YouTube only, right?

Yes, that's right. You purely learn English from just watching YouTube? Watching YouTube, mixed with this too. Like, I finally met my friends from America. I met them on Twitter, and we Skype together every day. We play Call of Duty together.

Wait, how old were you?

I was 12 or 13. 12 years old, watching YouTube. What was it like? YouTube. What kind of YouTube do you watch? Usually, vlogging, like vlogging, or I used to play Rubik's Cube, so like Rubik's Cube tutorial or something like that. Yeah, I saw you playing that too, right?

You also put it on YouTube, right? Yeah. Well, because of watching that, how can you meet these bullies?

How did Skype come to be? That's from Twitter. Okay, because of watching that, how can you meet the bule-bule until Skype?

That's from Twitter. So, in the past, I used to play this on Twitter. In the past, there were a lot of comedy accounts on Twitter. I don't know why, but I can enter that community. I also have a process where I learn not only the English language, but also the sense of humor of the people there. It's very different, right?

So I learned through that, through Twitter. Learning through Twitter means reading what they posted and analyzing it? Yes. So I read what they posted, like, I see how many likes they have. I understand that from that. Like, if people say like this, they have a lot of likes. Why do they have a lot of likes?

Why do people like it? So I just give an example sometimes. So from the context, I try to joke myself, like writing jokes. Sometimes I tweet,

sometimes no one likes it. Sometimes the likes are like 20, it's not bad. In English? In English. So the longer it is, the more I understand.

While watching the movie too. So, like me, I used to like reading comedy books, right? The book is called Hilemenari Wijaya. Okay. Same as you. Why is this funny?

Then we separate ourselves, and in the end we try to make it, right? But the difference is my reference is an Indonesian book. And then you immediately got an English Twitter account. English language. Until you can joke in English. Because comedy in English has a cultural context, right?

How can a 13-year-old boy from Cengkareng understand the context of American comedy humor? Just laugh, I think I know it. I just know it. I think the thing that taught me about culture and the inside information about American culture is the most informative is rap music. Because from the lyrics of rap, I like to listen to it and I like to see it in Rap Genius. If there are words I don't understand or references I don't understand, I click on Genius.

It's explained there. For example, there is a rhyme, like VEGO or something. Oh, VEGO turns out to be a drink brand. So from there, I learned a lot about the culture and the references. I was like, where did you learn about this? So, you learned from your favorite rap song and you found your own context?

Yes. And from watching movies, if there's someone in the movie, Amrik, who says something I don't understand, just google it. And there's no one to guide you? You're just left alone at home? No, because my job is homeschooling, so I'm just at home. But being at home is like being an entertainer, but you're the type who analyzes and finally makes something, right? Yes, maybe.

Where did you come from?

Where? you finally create something, right? Yes, maybe. Where did you come from? Where did I come from? Do you have family? Do you have an artist? Yes, yes. My dad likes to paint since long time ago. My dad is actually a lawyer.

But, since long time ago, his hobby is painting. And I like to teach him how to draw. My mom, quite a lot. She used to be a photographer. I used to open a photo studio at home. So, we... The kids got access to this.

We have a camera, right? We use my mom's camera. We used to have SLR that can shoot videos too. So, from there, sometimes we made short films.

How about your social life?

Because I see all your friends are big, right? From... yeah, since I was homeschooling, my social life has been really lacking. Like, I... I had more friends on the internet than in the real world.

Like, until the first time I had a real friend, I think it was when I was 15 years old. And that's because I met him through clubbing. Because Roy was invited. At 15 years old, you were invited by your brother. At 15 years old, you went clubbing?

Yes.

Serving alcohol?

Yes, serving alcohol.

Oh my God.

And when I met the kids at the clubbing place, it turned out that they lived near my God. And when I met the kids at the clubbing place, they lived near my house. So, we hang out more often at the house. So, you're the only kid? But nowadays, it's not like that, right? I haven't been to the club in Jakarta for a long time.

But it's not like the club is full of kids, right? Nowadays. Last Saturday, it's like... ...it's not like the same as now, right? Well, last Saturday...

I don't know.

I feel like... ...since... ...because I was in the clubbing era, in 2015. Like when I went back to Indonesia again... ...2018, 2019... ...it's like...

...the content is more... ...more and more boccel. more and more boccel. Oh, there were more boccel. Younger people. Like 13 years old, like Behelan. There were, I swear.

And then, the battle of service.

It was so weird.

Where was it? In the south, there was a 3-day battle, if I'm not mistaken. He was still red. Still red. Okay, okay. I saw you at the beginning, I thought you would be an amazing comedian.

At the beginning, how to microwave bread, it needs a deep understanding and a broad American comedy context to understand that it's a joke.

Yes.

Indonesian people might be like, what the hell? Because they don't know it's a joke. The most different thing is, I think the people who is not in Indonesia is a satirist. Yes, that's right. Like more like that.

There are not too many sarcasm actually. Well, I feel that, oh, this kid is 5 years old, will become a comedian or something. Why rap? Suddenly, I see. How can you rap? What happened? So, my relationship with music has been since I was 3 years old, I've been playing drums and I used to play with my family.

So, Roy and Sonia used to have a band. Sonia sang, Roy played the keyboard. Then we performed at thes, sometimes at churches. And Sonye had his own band, and he wrote and recorded his own songs. And sometimes I went to his studio when he was still a kid, when he was making his own songs.

And I remember the feeling, like, this is not right. What do you mean? I felt like in the studio, I was just pressured. I just didn't like the vibe. I was like, this music is not suitable for me. So when I was that age, I had a break in music. I didn't really touch the drums, didn't touch anything.

When I was 9-10 years old, I started playing the drums. I started playing the drums's Cube. I started playing Rubik's Cube, and I was lazy. Finally, I started to learn cinematography. After that, when I was 12, I started to listen to rap songs, while learning English. And it was because I wanted to fit in.

I wanted to fit in, and I wanted to understand why people liked this song. And from that, I met other songs, like Drake's songs. When I was 14-15 years old, I just made my own song. Make your own song?

Yes.

How many songs? There were 5-6 songs.

5 songs.

Yes.

Because on Twitter, I I have quite a lot of followers on Twitter. And I had planned to make a following on Twitter. So that one day, if I want to be a director who likes to make short films, or make music, whatever it is, there will be an audience. And I also had a friend who used to work... He's pretty big on Twitter and likes to tweet jokes. And finally he made a rap song too.

Uploaded on SoundCloud. And his name is Nick Coletti. He used to be pretty big on Vine. He used to have a rap name, the name of. He was quite big in Vine. He had a rap name, Young Third. Young Third like T-U-R-D. Because I really like listening to his songs.

Even though his songs are all comedic. But in terms of production, he produced so comedic. But, in terms of production, everyone was quite serious. He produced everything. Even though the lyrics were funny, but it was so catchy.

And I like to listen to it. So, from that, I thought, like, this is possible. Like, if I make a song, and I upload it to SoundCloud, and then, I post it.

So, my Twitter followers were listening to it. So, the intention was still to make it a comedy, right? Yes. There was still a hint of comedy, right? Yes, that's right. So, when there was Glow Like That and so on,

I saw that you were more serious. Yes. Were you in the middle of the road, like, I don middle of the road, you don't want to make it too funny? Yes.

In today's era, it's more... In today's era, it's more acceptable. But in the past, there was a phase where if you want to be a rapper or an artist, you have to be serious. If you're not serious, you'll be put in the box of a comedic artist or a comedic rapper. Now, there are a lot of funny rappers.

And the music is serious, but the lyrics have a lot of sense of humor. But in the old days, I had an identity crisis. Like, wow, is this serious or comedy?

Okay.

And that's how it was. So you were contracted by 88, right? Yes. After the internet blew up at that time, you were directly contracted. I'm honest, when I knew you signed with a label,

I felt like, how are you signed with a label, I felt like... ...what kind of music you're gonna release? There must be a lot of them. I also think like that. Really? I feel like...

...can you be serious? Can you be right? You know what I mean? Can you be right? And you released a series of singles that I think is really cool. Does that mean there is self-proof after that?

Like, I have to show that this is serious, like you said, I don't want to put it in the box. Is there a drive? Yes, there is. So, the first ones, since the first song was blown up, I still don't know if I would continue making music. Because I didn't want to be the person who... who was actually just a Twitter comedian,

and then made one song, and the song went viral, and then I didn't know when to stop. After being signed by 88, I felt like I had to continue. And since then, I learned to produce by myself.

Produce my own songs, make my own beats. And from that, I was quite like... I found out that I was interested in music. So I just realized that I have that interest I followed your behind the scenes videos There's a song that you released, you gave the lyrics

The one you did in the studio

I watched that too

I think it's called Go Like That I think it's the song Go Like That I saw some credits as a producer I was like, this person is producing this by himself Crazy I was crazy

Not a formal school there Not a college there Everything was self-taught Is there a course that you took? No The first one was from this

The first one is from... I had a producer friend His name is Sik He produced my song, Who Dat B The second song But, I often get ideas

But I don't know how to articulate it to him. He taught me the basics, using Fruity Loops FL Studio. Then I continued watching YouTube tutorials. Watching YouTube tutorials, what helped me the most was remaking instrumental songs that I like. Songs like Hotline Bling, Drake, or whatever. I tried to remake instrumental that I like So like Hotline Bling, Drake, or whatever

I try to remake it myself And from there I learned a lot Like from this perspective Because I listen to it so sharp Like sharpening the ears So I listen to all the layers

Because if I listen to the song I like it, the song is good And the listening is very simple If I listen to the song, I like it. The song is good and the listening is very simple. If I try to remake, I put one melody like this, one layer is missing. Why is there an empty one? Oh, it turns out there is this, then I add it, it turns out there is this.

Then from the mixing side too, the mixing should be like this. So, from there I learned mixing too. So, I learned a lot from there. Crazy. I learned mixing from there. So, I learned a lot from there. That's crazy. But I understand. So, if I listen to a song on the radio,

I know that this is just the instrument. When we try to remake it, I know that it's so different. It turns out that deep inside, there's a mix that has a small volume or a low frequency.

There's that, a thin layer. Yes. And I think, if I want to answer the question, I want to be motivated from this, I want to make a good song. If I can make a good song,

by working with other producers, I can do it, but I felt that it would be easier if I work alone. But it's really hard. And the pressure was quite high at that time, from the first single,

how was the follow-up single? Well, 88 Rising knows that you want to produce it yourself. I know. And he gave up. Okay. He has questions like,

have you ever produced before? No. I have. Because I'm pretty close to the manager. Sean is the founder of 88. And I've been talking to him the most.

And he often sent me beats, beats from other producers. And I was practicing every day, making beats, making beats. Then he said, it's not the time to make beats. Just focus on writing music. Don't make beats, don't produce.

But I remember feeling, you don't know this. This is very important. This will be a very advantageous thing for me and you too. Yes, as an artist, because the middleman is gone.

It's only your brain and the music. All this time, there's a producer, what do we want to do? Sometimes, you're in translation in the producer, right? And not all of this. It must be very frustrating for you too, right? Like, what do you mean you don't understand?

Sometimes, it's like that. But it's really hard to learn to produce a song, especially with the time frame after it. It means there's a time that has to be pressed to learn. Yes, it's not bad.

What do you use for the program? FL Studio, from the beginning.

Okay. Even though that too... People use logic, what do you use for the background music? FL Studio. Okay.

But, you know...

People use Logic, what else? It's different. And FL Studio, people say, is the best for hip-hop. Because the sound, the kick is better. Or something like that. Okay. or whatever that's what they said okay

the first song that you produced after that what was it? it's called 17 it was finally released it's one of the songs after Who Dat B

so it's the third song was it a smooth sailing? was it good? it wasn't good but Is it a good selling? Not directly good, but... So, there are quite a lot of songs that I made that I produced myself and didn't release.

Because there are many processes, like the failure, what's the name? Anyway, there are many processes like I made a lot of songs, I thought it was good. After a long time, I heard it, it was bad. Then I made a new one, it was better.

Then I made a new one, it was better. The last one was bad. So there are quite a lot of processes like that. And finally, in 2018, I released my first album. The first album, there were quite a lot of songs in my first album. Luckily, there are still songs like...

...Go Like That, Cold. I like that one too. Drive Safe too? Drive Safe is in my next album. That's also good.

Thank you.

And it seems that you're more melodious here. More lyrical. More lyrical. If I the singles that I've released, there are more melodic sounds. So people think that this album is actually singing. But it's not.

There are many singing, but there are also many rapping. Okay. Why is it more melodic? Like a history? There are so many. Why do you choose so many melodies? Like a history? I think I really like melodic songs. Sometimes there is no limit

when making melodic songs. The topic can be more free. The lyric topic can be more free. Sometimes the important thing is if the melody is catchy, the chord is catchy, the song is good.

That's what people say. So you just have to play inside. Yes. Yes, I really like to make melodic songs. Now I often make songs, like melodic song ideas. The melody idea is too good for me to sing it myself.

Like my voice is not good enough for this idea. So sometimes I sing it myself, and maybe later I save it for other singers or something. If I want to feature, featuring, take other singers who can sing it right, then I say, okay, can I sing this melody?

So the one in Colors, you sing, and then buy my album, pay for my singing lessons. Is that right? Actually, I've only tried

once in my life. I sang only once. And that was just... Did it help? A little. I remember that session was taught how to breathe. Like breathing with your stomach.

Yeah.

Okay, let's talk about the new one. 15th of August, 2025.

Where is my head?

Oh, thank you. Let's pour it first. Safe. Do you know aboutene's hair? That's a childhood snack Why did you put Nene's hair there? It looks good

Now we talk about the new one This is August 15, 2025 Where is my head? That means a new album How long did the production take? Made This means How long did it take to prepare for the production? The production...

This means the longest song on this album is... 2 years ago. I think it's 2 years. 2 years? What made it take so long? I think it's the sound.

So, for example, the last album, The Sailor, the production was quite upgraded, quite high compared to the first album. Because the first album, I mostly produced it myself, but I only produced using FL,

only using laptop, I only used laptop. As for The Sailor, I produced some songs, but not that many. So mostly I work with another producer, Bacon and the Donuts.

They are like a producer group. And they are really cool, they are really good. And their equipment is already quite sophisticated. I didn't understand it before, But the quality is very different. So when I was looking for the next album, I was a bit confused because I was thinking of working with the same producer,

but I was afraid that the sound was too similar to The Sailor. Finally, I tried to learn more, so like keyboard, keyboard, synthesizer, and like guitar, guitar, and bass, like live instrumentation. I started to buy, collect, so I tried to buy and collect them So I tried to produce them by myself

And the production approach was different Because I used those instruments So I wanted to combine the quality of The Sailor With the sound identity of my first album So I produced everything But the quality was more similar to The Sailor

Because I used their instruments I produced all of them, but the quality is more like The Sailor because the instruments are made by their own instruments So, the real instruments in the first album are not that many?

No, it's not like that

It's the music that uses FL plugins But it's still enjoyable I mean, the general public probably doesn't know about it I think so So, the third album, we have that expectation, right? It will be much more musical.

Wow. For the songs themselves, for this new album, Where Is My Head, how is the creative process? I'm curious about how you make the songs. Yes.

From what first? Yes. For this one, often, because when The Sailor. Because I focus on writing lyrics in the album.

So, I often listen to old school rap songs. More lyrical. And even Drake. I often listen to them. When I was in this album, I don't know... I don't know if it's because I listened to rap a lot in the past,

but every time I listen to rap, I want to listen to more melodic songs, like old songs, like Phil Collins or Stevie Wonder, more like alternative R&B, ifB or jazz-inspired. So, I often start this album with the idea of playing keyboard. So, like playing keyboard or guitar, and make chord progression first. If there's chord progression, I start with freestyle melody.

Freestyle melody or freestyle flow rap. Freestyle melody with the instrument or top lining? Top lining. So, if the chord is already there, I use voice note to sing. If I get it, it's already recorded.

I can repeat it and fill the lyrics. So, looping and top lining? You'll get it for sure? I get it more often. I like the chord progression. I often... My process is everyday.

Because I work at home. Like studio at home. Everyday I go to the studio. I don't know how I will make the song that day. What the genre is like. I don't know how to make a song with a different genre. I just went to the studio and started to feel it.

Sometimes I want to start with keyboard, or sometimes I want to start with drums. So every day is different. I learned that it's better not to be rigid. So, there's no expectation. How will I make it?

All by yourself? Mostly, yes. Sometimes there are ideas that are often heard. Like, it's often heard and I don't know how to solve it. And I... And sometimes people say, as an artist,

do you know if the song is finished or not? I know this album process. And sometimes I feel like it's not finished yet. But I don't know where to go. So I like to give it to others, who listen to it with a new perspective.

But does that mean you work in the studio always alone? Yes, I mostly start by myself. I start the idea by myself. Have you ever had one song or... Yes, one song, like I started it with everyone else. But it's like...

It's more rare in this album. For this album, there are times where... So, what I get is that you're the type of person who... Okay, I want to make an album. So, I'll take a look at the songs. The songs are already compiled, then the album is released.

Yes.

So, it means there's a long enough time period, right? Where you're in the creative mode.

Yes.

Can it be disturbed? a long enough, where you're in creating mode. Yeah.

Can it be disturbed or is it your sacred time to make it? If it's disturbed, it means like being disturbed, like making... Oh, your friend comes, Brian, let's hang out. I can't do that. There are people who can do that. And I'm really eager to meet people like that.

Like, for example, people who can make a song in front of his friends, or in front of his girlfriend, I can't do that. Because I feel embarrassed. Oh, you're embarrassed? Yes, I'm embarrassed.

I feel like the process is really vulnerable. Because when I make a song, I like to dance by myself, I like to imagine how it would be like if I'm on stage, the dance, right? I like to dance by myself, I like to imagine what it's like to be on stage, dancing. I like to do that, I like to listen to it over and over again, like shouting by myself.

And I'm just uncomfortable doing it in front of people. When I'm writing a movie, I'm like this too. No, no, no. Wow, it's really exciting. If you make this album, Where Is My Head, is it...

You're the one who made the song, right? Yes. Produce and all. Is everything including the visual, how the video clip will be like, it's on you too, or what?

Actually, it shouldn't be. But I'm interested too, about the visual. So, this one is quite... I was quite involved at that time. Like making the visual concept,

then there are some ideas, like specific shots, like that. So, I... about the music video, I always try to include the music video.

Usually, if I'm not involved, it's because I didn't have a chance. Like the glow like that in the flower garden. You really want to make it like that, right? Very striking. So, it's different, right?

Yes

That video clip is one of the video clips that I was involved in Like, I made the storyboard, the treatment, and everything History? Eh, it's quite involved Because that's the cut... Oh, the cut of the anime

The cut of the movie and anime Yes Yes That was on purpose, you want to show the nostalgia? yes, but that's actually an idea from me and my manager too

oh

yes, so we brainstormed together is it true that the nostalgia nuance that is going to be taken is history? this is our history yes

wow

so there's no adsense there, right?

no no because copyright everything no Wow. So, there's no AdSense there, right? No.

Because it's all copyrighted.

No.

Okay, this is for living in America. So, you've been living there now. Since 2017. Okay. I see... That's why I said I'm a fan.

So, I know. I see your chat with your parents. Don't forget to eat, you'll get sick. You're rapping. You got the WI from your parents. Do you miss your family?

Or you're free? I miss them a lot. Maybe in the first years, I didn't think about it. Because the focus was only this, like taking it as an experience. There are so many new things in Amrik.

So there was no room for longing and thinking. But the longer I lived there, especially when I was there for 3 years, I didn't go back. I miss it so much. Especially when I came back here,

a lot of things have changed. What is the most annoying thing when you live in America? I'll go first. Tipping. I don't understand why it has to be like that.

What about you? What is the most annoying? Food? Yes, all the food is expensive. Especially after I came back to Indonesia, I ordered food and it's not good.

Add tip?

Yes, add tip. Add tip too. But is Indonesian food good there? There is one that is good. Is there a any Indonesian food there? There's one that's good. There's an Indonesian food there? Yes, there's one.

What is it? Fried rice? I like fried duck. Fried duck with green chili sauce. And the chili sauce is like a spice.

Okay.

Have you tried carok duck here? I think not. You have to try it. The Muslim one. Okay. Have you tried the duck charok here? I think not yet. You have to try it. It's Muslim's. That's charok. The black seasoning duck.

Oh, so it's like the Madura duck? Yes, it's really good. I like Madura duck. You have to try it. Okay. What about the music culture there?

Do you immediately know it or is there something different with the music culture here? Tell me what you mean. It means, it's easier to be accepted there if I hang out with the rappers there. Or is it different? The communication, the way of working. It's different. The most different is...

Because I haven't had a phase where have a phase where I often collab with artists here. So I don't know what the music community in Indonesia is like. Like you don't really understand the scene. Yeah. Recently I've been following Indonesian artists. But I haven't met them yet. But there, it scene is quite organic.

If people want to do a collab, they usually do it with the people they like. They like the music, but also the personality. They hang out first, then they friends first, then start to collab. Except for the big artists who collab from the label. Is that what you did with Bibi No Money?

That's organic. That's just from knowing each other. I've known him for a long time, but we've never collaborated. And one day, he made a song with... This producer is called Diamond Pistols. He's also my friend who helped me make the song Dress Safe.

Then they sent me the song, Edamame. It's done? There's a part of it.

Okay.

Do you want to rap on this song? I heard it, it's good. That's really good.

I like that song.

It's really funny, the title is also Edamaame. It's really funny. Who's idea is the video clip? The idea is Bebe Nomane.

That's really funny.

The one who uses armor. Yes, yes. The one who wears armor. Long draw. He's a great guy. Is that house you're shooting at, a rented house or his house? It's a rented house. Very strict, right? When you're shooting a video clip there?

It's a house.

I think we're... There are also people who shoot without a permit. There are many. But usually, it's on the street. Like a public space. But at people's house, it's on the road, like a public space. But if it's in a house, usually it's a rent.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, now for Where Is My Head, what is the story of this album? What do you want to talk about? I think most of it is about topics like... there are topics about romance, there are topics about missing family,

and what else? Top, and mental health. Because when I was in LA, I didn't come back for 3 years. It was quite stressful. And it was during the COVID era. I realized that there are so many things in my life that I can tell you in the rap song. And it's not...

It's not even the things that I've been through since I became a rapper. Like the things from my life when I was 15 years old, to being a rapper. There are a lot of stories from there that I talk about in this album. About this, the honesty, right? Yes. This album... You're just being honest. Yes, I think this is the most honest and vulnerable album. About this, the honesty, right? Yes, this album... You're just being honest.

Yes, I think this is the most honest and vulnerable album.

Okay.

When you made the video clip using green screen, was it because you didn't have a budget? No, that's a lie.

You said that at that time.

Yes, I said that at that time. It was actually because of miscommunication. So, actually, the video clip, he wanted to have VFX, like I'm in what world, he wanted to make it like that.

Then I think I asked in the group chat, in the group chat there was a VFX artist, right? Then I said, Oh, by the way, when can we see the first pass? What day is it? He said, this day, Friday.

Then I said, huh? We released it on Wednesday. Then he said, huh? So, basically, no one knows what to do. Finally, I talked to my manager. Then we said, Alpac, let's just release it like this. Then we just said it. Finally release it like this? Then we said it straight away.

Finally it became a meme. So it's like a contest. Along the way, there are some problems, but we just make it an opportunity. Which is really interesting. The song is called Star in My Pocket. Love in My Pocket.

The original version, after the VFX, it's already been ordered. Yeah. I never saw it. You're a good worker. Here's my YouTube membership. I want to ask you something.

Redfield asked,

honestly, how does it feel to cook Joji? What I remember is when he cooked noodles, and he used beef, if I'm not mistaken.

It was good. It was good?

It was quite good. And then, we were mixed together. He made noodles with Japanese noodles, and I made noodles with Japanese noodles. Then I made noodles with Indonesian noodles. I was confident that my Indonesian noodles would be better. But his noodles were better.

In my opinion.

So, it's good, right? It's good. From Alanau, What games do you play often?

Do you still have time?

Sometimes I have a phase. Sometimes when I play games, I play it all the time. If not, I never play. But now, the last time I played was Call of Duty Warzone.

Oh, COD.

COD, Black Ops 6.

Okay.

That was the last time? Yes. RPG? You never played RPG? I never touched RPG. Same? Yes, I'm afraid of addiction.

Oh, yes. Like me now. I'm addicted. Sama sekali. Iya, takut kecanduan. Oh iya bener, kayak gue sekarang sih. Kecanduan nih gue. Oke, terus dari Kudeta. Ada kepikiran atau rencana buat ngadain konser hip-hop tunggal pertama di Indonesia?

Ada ya.

Ada? Ada. Kapan kah? November 29 nanti ada. November tanggal 29.

Dimana nanti?

Beach, International Stadium.

Wow.

There are many foreign artists playing there. You know it, Nurul. He's my assistant. Is Old Play playing there? No? Who is it? From Andy22, Rich Brian said he's a subscriber of Tara Arts and Gema Show Indo.

That's right. Have you met them before? No, I haven't. Never? Yes. Have you ever met them before? Never met.

Never?

Yes. Yesterday I just came from their house.

Oh yes.

There are a lot of Dugong there, right? Dugong's hangout.

Dugong's hangout.

What content do they make now? Yesterday we just chatted. Oh, okay. They are more often live. Oh, okay. Okay. It was like a podcast. We were talking. It was because of VFX content that they made. Yes. Is it a dinosaur?

Yes, a dinosaur.

A shooting. A shooting.

Wow, OG. It was one way with me. That's right. The interest. So, we are in the same team. Maybe.

It was the Arab era too. Yes. Okay. The last one is from F. Tariq. Brian, what do you think about the Hip-Doodle genre that is trending in Indonesia now? Which is your favorite song? I really like it.

When I first saw Garam 6 Nadu, I was like... I was surprised and felt like, wow, this is really fresh. I think he made the hip-hop scene in Indonesia more exciting. Because he did things that people haven't done before. Combining two genres. Even though when you hear it, it feels very obvious. Yes, it's suitable.

But before, no one has tried it. So I salute him. And now, I like his song. What's the name? I don't know. Di Antara Kau Dana. Tensi's song.

Di Antara Kau Dana. Why did you cut it? It's good but Na na na na na na na na Yeah But the salt and tequila is really

Oh yeah I'm a spy I'm a spy Okay, the last one

Strangest fan interaction

that you've ever had What?

What? I always tell the same story Oh, this one? The one that you went to your house? Yeah What about in the US? Is the fan interaction in the US different from here? Different. In LA, people are more like, more normal Because there are more artists

And the celebrities' levels are also different there So, it's different, but the people who are really fans, there are some. Like, until... until they're in tears or something, there are some. There are some. And the first...

Now, I can remember, I used to go to the gym, but I don't know how much he's a fan, or he just knows that I'm the rapper then he said can I rap for you?

at the gym, he wants to rap in front of you and I'm in the position of walking out of the gym going to the parking lot then he followed he walked next to me immediately freestyle

I was like, walking around. It was so weird. I didn't know how to respond. It was weird. But when you got in the car, he still rapped. Or did you wait for him?

No, no. When I was about to get close to the car, I stopped. So he could finish first. I was afraid he would follow me. But it's very awkward. I was once in Germany,

I was followed by fans. So after the concert, we parked the car in the back. There were some fences, metal fences. When we got in the car, some people were trying to climb the fence.

But we were already in the car, so it was safe. When we got out of the car, they followed us. So we had a chase. We were walking to the hotel. It was pretty scary. So, they were German? Yes, they were.

Wow, it can be like that. Over there, right?

Belayan, thank you for coming here.

Thank you.

What's the name of this? Good luck for the album. Where is my hat? August 15, 2025. And good luck for the concert later. November 22, right? November 29.

November 29. Thank you.