SOIMAH MASUK POLITIK??? BANYAK SYARATNYA!!! - NGOBROL DI WA EPS 23

You It's a good thing I'm not a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. I'm going to try it now.

For the audience in the studio, you might be confused. Why does the studio smell different? Let me tell you. This is the smell of rupiah. Because today's guest is Wong Sugi.

For this episode, we usually use clip-on. But we have a dog-poodle.

To welcome Wong Sugi

Wong Sugi

But back then, it was hard to sleep in the base camp

Yes

Yes

Bring a blanket to my base camp This is a true story If I tell the story, I'm afraid you'll get mad

Tell the story

I'm not gonna say anything

We didn't invite you

No, no, no

No, no, no

What's wrong with you?

You invited us, but you didn't invite us

People already know who you are

Yesterday, you were not crowded because of the Ospek

Every time I do a podcast, it has to be crowded.

It has to be.

It has to be crowded here too.

I'm sorry.

I didn't see you, Maya.

I want to talk about the opening. Wang Suki. Usually, because of your friends' behavior, who usually call you after that.

How do you do it? But on the way here, Like you guys, who usually get a call from a guy after that But I'm not like you guys But on my way here, I was searching for one thing Comedy Project was in 2012 Yes, that's right Which is 13 years ago That was my first project with you guys

If you guys knew each other, it was a lot longer than that

It was early.

The first time.

I went to Jakarta early.

Before the Ante V's event. What?

That's right.

That's the event.

That's when Ma'am E first came.

That's the Ante V's event.

From the airport, to Pisangan, it's red carpet. I'm a carpenter

2009 What was the event? Seger It was Seger, then it became Seger Benar Oh yeah, Nyinden Cagur, Skecha That's right

Me and Ohang

Ohang. Ohang. Yes, that's right. Then, how did you end up in your base camp? Was it because you've known Cagur before?

No, before that... It's a long story. At first, I was given a facility by ANTV. They gave me a hotel. They gave me a hotel for 9 months. For 9 months, I was not tired. I was given a hotel for 9 months. I was not tired of it.

I was bored of staying in the hotel. So, I...

You stayed in the hotel?

I was so angry.

I thought you were staying in the hotel.

I was back. It's okay.

I was like this. I was afraid that you didn't understand. I'm not going to do it again It's safe I'm not going to do it again

I'm afraid that he won't understand

He's looking for a house

He's looking for a hotel

He's a bit grumpy He wants to be like other people He wants to rent an apartment I know Nicolas Saputra That's cool He's my idol

He knows my! Really? Yes!

I'm impressed!

I'm surprised to meet you!

I was living in an apartment in Sudirman Park I was a housewife But I couldn't pay my rent for a year because it was still early

and I had to pay for the rent was still in the process of finding a job. I didn't pay my monthly rent. They said, it's okay, just wait. I said, I'll pay. I went in, and they said, why don't you live here? The apartment is nice, why don't you live here?

I protested, what apartment?

Why don't you live here?

I live in Nicholas Aputra's apartment. I told him, I'm not interested. He said, okay, I'll take you to the TV station. The studio...

Kuningan?

Prumpung.

Oh, Prumpung.

We're shooting there. He said, take you to the TV station. We were there for a year. It turned out that he wanted to be sold to me for a year. I'm sorry, I don't want to be sold. You don't want to move, right? I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said yes, so I moved. I moved.

He was chased away. But I don't know if it was really sold. I don't know. I didn't remember Jakarta. I was confused. I often went to the post office.

I talked to them. I asked them to sell it. Finally, Mr. Bogle. Andy Bogle. We were talking and then... ...Bang... Who was it? Bang Bogel? Andi Bogel, the late. He offered me to stay here.

But it was... But the basecamp was...

...very bronze, right?

Yes, we didn't want to stay there.

Which room was it?

It was still good. So, it was a garage.

Yes, it was a garage when you enter

Yes, just cut it

Oh, in the garage?

Yes, in the garage. So when you wake up It's... It's a mess

Seriously

I didn't think of it

If it's a mess, I've been there too It's a garage when you enter Then there's a room There are offices and stairs I never thought of that. If the basecamp is far away, I've been there before. You go in the garage. Then, you go to the room. There are offices and stairs. Then, you go upstairs and there's a room.

In the garage?

Yes, in the garage.

I've been there.

In the workshop.

Not in the basecamp.

In the workshop.

Which workshop?

So, the workshop is far away. No. So, the shop was far away. Almahrum had a shop.

The one in front of it.

Almahrum had a shop at that time.

So, maybe Sohima lived there.

Yes, there.

But, I brought a mattress.

You brought it, using a mattress. We searched for a place for 3 months. Because we didn't remember Jakarta is still under construction We were looking for a cheap place And we found an apartment It was cheap

So, we stayed there for 3 months

How many months?

1 year

1 year What month did your husband become a bandar?

We don't know How much did it cost for your husband to become a bandar?

We don't know. We don't know. Before that, we didn't know about the famous apartment. We didn't know anything. We just didn't know. The important thing is we can sleep, shoot,

or work. We didn't think about anything. Then, there's a lot of news. About the construction. about the police.

They were like, what the hell?

They were like, what the hell? So I moved to a rented house. I didn't have to live in an apartment. I moved to a rented house behind the Pahlawan cemetery. I was tired, so I moved here and there. I was like, when will I have my own house?

It's okay if it's small. The important thing is, for the sleeper, Alhamdulillah, I got an ad. I was so happy. I got a house.

That's why, Alhamdulillah, when they contracted... When Soema was working,

Koko didn't join.

Then?

He made a truck toy.

The truck toy. Koko didn't join. And then? He made a truck. A wooden truck.

He used a rope.

A Barbie house.

Right. A Barbie house.

So, Koko, Soima's husband,

made a wooden truck. Mamo, Naya's assistant,

made a Barbie house. But I'm talking about the comedy project in 2012. 2012. 12 years ago, that was the first time I met Samben. I only met Mas Koko, I only knew... I only had a friend who spoke Javanese at the location.

It was so cool to I first saw Soema. Because at that time, she was known as a crazy actress. And then she was so fresh, her performance was amazing. And then she was so crazy, her performance was amazing. And then she was so crazy, her performance was amazing. So, I was so surprised. So, I was so surprised.

Did you get nervous when you saw Soema? Did you get nervous when you saw Soema?

Well, I've been talking it's been over a year. I thought so. When we talk to the kids nowadays, we just listen to them. They're like, so,

that's why I sometimes reject my parents. But, parents are naturally good. If you enjoy it, it's good. But, it's good to be old naturally

But, after all the achievements, you feel more calm and mature or more worried about your kids?

I'm always worried But, I have to try to be calm

Wait, wait

I think I need help

You're the one who's worried You're the one who's worried

I'm still used to it

I don't want to talk to you

I'm not sure if I'm being serious or not

You're being serious I rarely speak Tagalog I know, but I don't know if it's a Tagalog word I don't know if it's a Tagalog word

I don't know

It's good

It's good to meet a Javanese person If you meet a Javanese person Suddenly you meet a Javanese person You will automatically speak Javanese Because it's better If you meet a Javanese person, you will automatically speak Javanese Because it's more comfortable

If you meet Mr. Jokowi, you will also speak Javanese

Because he is Javanese

If you meet Mr. Jokowi, you can't speak in a cute way

Yes, you can't

It's not like that The thing is, I'm like this I can't say anything about my grandchild Of course you can't Why is that? The thing is, I'm like this

I'm going to report this

When we were young, when we worked so hard We went to work in the morning and came back in the morning I had this image that it's okay, I'm having a hard time now, so that when I get older, I'll be more at ease, life will be better. But now I feel like I'm getting older.

More burden, more burden.

What is it? There's a lot of things on my mind that we're worried about. But if we look at the condition of the child that the kid is already grown up? And the kid is already graduated.

I was thinking, what if I get a boyfriend? Or a boyfriend? And then I get married.

And then I get a kid.

It won't be over. Our job won't be over. That's why I always try to calm myself.

How?

For example, if there's...

You two are a bunch of assholes. Back to Javanese setting.

You're mixed up.

What's important is that netizens know our language. Even though the Indonesian language is Medok,

they know it. The problem is not about the Indonesian language is Medok.

No. You both are still speaking Javanese. It's okay. It's just a little bit.

It's a little bit. You're a long-haired person.

What do you mean?

From what you said, the last thing I understood was,

Wow! The rest is okay. What do you mean? From what you said, I understood the last part.

I don't understand the rest.

When will you make your own podcast? Yes.

We talked in AS. Andika Soeimah.

There are many enemies in AS.

How many enemies?

America. But... you relate, right?

Very much.

When we see our children grow up, why do we think that the older we are, the calmer we are? Why do we have more worries? Will that happen to you too?

Especially since your children are both men.

Yes, it happens to parents. Especially us who have a burden. Artists have a bigger burden. They are more stressed out. I always try to keep calm. If there's a problem, I don't want to be stressed. The important thing is calm. If there's a problem, everyone is calm. I don't want to stress.

Because the important thing is health first. We're getting older. If we're healthy, our mind is healthy, we want to make a decision, of course we'll be healthy. Bismillah. If it's a matter of material,

well, we need material until we die. How can we move, how can we search? We need to find a way to move on. But the burden of thinking is a lifetime's work.

But do you ever worry about your children?

No.

I mean, you're always like this, I're always like this, and you're always like this.

Oh, what I always emphasize is...

I'm always like this, and you're always like this.

What I always emphasize is, what I used to emphasize is, when they're still in school, they're always naughty, they're always doing drugs, they're always following naughty friends,

they're always with good friends. But now, they're different. For example, if one day, Now, the stage is different. For example, if your parents are gone, you'll be like that. My son hates it the most.

What are you doing, mom? My son hates it the most if I say, if your parents are gone, you have to be like this,

my son doesn't like it. But when our parents said that, we didn't like it either. It feels like, you don't like it either. It felt like... You don't have to say that. But it turns out, psychologically, it's better to be said.

Because I think, I mean, so he knows that you are two siblings. You guys, for example, Aksani, you will be your sister's parent. Don't fight, don't fight for property. You have to be a good parent to your sister.

So, if your sister is like this, you have to be responsible. I've talked about this and that. So, until now, if I give you... For example, I give you Aksa. A million. Without my permission,

Aksa has given her sister 500. Without my permission. The same goes for the other way around. I give her sister. Without my permission. Because I like to try.

I give her the small one. She will see if her sister is his brother, no. Actually, now Aksa can find his own. Actually, he gave his brother's money yesterday.

Oh, how do you say it? I mean, teach the kids until they can do it like that. Because I also try to follow that method. I tried to test it, I gave Kauki 1 million. Kauki wasp 1 million Kauki gave me another Rp 500,000 But not to his sister

To his mother I said, I'm going back I didn't get his mother

I got his mother

I'm working for his sister

So, who knows When you don't give it, you're also given by his father

Management

But, honestly, because of you, who is the one who talks about this more often?

Like this

With the kids?

Yes, anything, I mean, concerns Concerns about the future

Like that

It's simple like this Can we support our children until now? Or can we, soon they will go to college, can we still support them until they graduate?

I don't want to have thoughts like, can we? But in my mind, I will support my children until they have grandchildren. So I don't want to talk about it. So my mindset is already...

Positive affirmation that you will... Believe that I can do it. Because if you say you will accompany your child to college, I don't want to go to college either. I don't want to. I don't want to go to college.

But your sister wants to. Business. That's why I said...

I'm her husband.

He knows everything. Because when... I said earlier I'm her husband Don't tell everyone

Because when we were in Jogja I always take her to the place called Mae

Because I want to see Wongsugi What he looks like when he's in Jogja

I'll tell you later

Do you know

My neighbor's assistant was once photographed by him? I'll tell you later.

Let's talk about this first.

It means... Aksa decided to drop out of college. Because he wanted to do business. As a parent, you're conservative, but you think, why? Education is important.

How did you two handle that?

At first, my dad and I were also arguing. Even until the wedding, we were like, tomorrow is the college. The point is, Radwan...

Sorry, who's the pro and who's the contra?

There's no pro. No one agrees. Then who's the one who who's the contra? There's no pro. No one agrees.

So, who's the one that you fought with?

Well,

it's just a debate. What's a debate?

A debate is like

a debate.

A debate. Argument. But, in the end, if the kid doesn't want to go, then we have to force him. But if you don't want to go to college, then you have to work.

What kind of business do you like?

He wants a house to eat, anything he wants. But the cafe behind you has started to run? Not yet, he's still confused because there are so many cafes in Jogja, and the menu is also different. Sometimes he's still confused about what to sell. And he thinks about the management.

What is Samben's character like? About following the child's wishes. I'm still confused. What about Sampen? What do you think about the kids? What do you think about the kids' opinions? I mean, what do you think about Sampen?

What do you think about Koko? I'm actually lost when they're responsible. I don't want to... I don't want to... Sometimes, when I'm in a bad mood,

I'll go all out. But, it's not often. I'm not the type of person who would get mad when someone starts to act up. But I don't do that often. I'm more like, whatever you do, you have to be responsible. Be positive and responsible. With your decisions.

So, you're saying that Koko is a troublemaker?

Actually, it's the same. She has her own way of communicating with her kids. I'm more of a talkative person. Maybe her dad has his own way of speaking.

His way of communicating with his son. It's different. During your career, you've always been a partner. And also a manager. What about when you're at war?

What war? For example, you're at war? What war? For example, if you're at war, and you're at home.

I'm at home, I'm not at home.

I'm crying.

I'm crying.

I'm not at home.

You mean war, you're fighting?

I'm fighting. Usually, what's the working environment like?

I, thank God, since I was 40 years old, thank God, I never had a fight. Because I always talk to him, I mean, don't make anything big, we're getting older. If there's anything small, small things are made big, it adds to the disease. So, as much as possible, anything is be made light, relaxed, and enjoyable. Because it's healthy.

Because, in my opinion, it's the most important health medicine. I think it's in the brain. So, if there are small things that I don't think about, I don't think it's important, and it can be done in a moment,

there's no need to make it difficult.

But since you're 40, before that, you often had to deal with small things?

Often, no. I mean, it's a hassle, of course, it's a family.

Because you're living together, working together, taking care of the house together, and also the work together. So, you have a lot of things to do.

You have a lot of potential. But it's not as... It's not as hard as people think. Because I'm a chill person.

How is it?

Between the two of you, who often loses when you fight? You and Mamo, who?

You and Koko, who often loses? So, if you ask me, LOL It depends on the problem. So, it's not possible. Who is the most likely to lose? I think I lose often. But maybe he is the most likely to lose. So, it's not possible to be selfish.

He can't.

But, from the beginning?

Because I have...

In the marriage, you're the one who... Anyway, after the marriage, it's him. But before the marriage,'s been married. But before marriage, I'm still single.

Because, for example, my wife and I work in the same place. But at home, after we have a problem, I feel like at work, it's okay, we have to be professional. But we know that there's something that's not done.

It's awkward.

No, I mean, if there's a problem, I don't feel bothered at work. I'm professional. It's a matter of location. At home, it's at home. It won't bother me.

Is it because Usia's age is much older than Koko's?

No, it's the same. He's the same. If we... For example, we're fighting, and we keep coming here. We're like this. We're talking to Mr. Koko.

Do you know that you don't know when you're fighting at home? No. That's it.

So, you're fighting now?

No.

I told you.

So, it never a problem It's never a guess When I fight or not, it's never a guess So what we share to people is the positive aura The bad one, we don't need to share to people

Is that your agreement or it just happened like that? It just happened like that So you already understand each other Because you work together. At home, people don't need to know. But at work,

sometimes people can see. Why are you so quiet? I think there's a problem. But you don't want to show it.

So you can support each other. But is it good to work in Jakarta or in Jogja?

It's good to work in Jogja. If you work in Jogja, it's good. But is it better to live in Jakarta or in Yogyakarta? It's better to live in Yogyakarta. It's better to live in Yogyakarta. But it's not as expensive as in Jakarta.

That's why you often go back and forth. Is that one of the ways to calm yourself?

Calm myself in Yogyakarta? Yes. From the beginning, my life concept didn't make me calm. That's why I have to go home once a month. So that I don't get contaminated.

Because I see... And I want to ask you, Soima. Actually, I want to ask, but I've never told you the question. This is what makes me curious. Why did you...

Yes, I've told you.

I want to ask.

I've told you. I see Soima in Jakarta. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's already there.

I see Soima in Jakarta. And Soima in Jogja. It's like two different personalities.

How about in Jakarta?

It's the same.

In Jogja,

it's the same.

No.

Is it in terms of appearance or behavior? Appearance. Appearance and behavior. I mean in terms of appearance and behavior. I mean, in Jogja, if we talk, we're still like, wow! But I see Soima, the real Soima when he was in Jogja, with his appearance, what's her name? What's her name?

Pendopo

Pendopo is really big If I come there for the first time and I don't know Soima Who opened Soima's gate

I will ask for a sweet ice tea

I'm shorts, a shirt,

a makeup, and my hair is all messed up. And it's so different from his look.

But that's life. That's the comfortable life.

Right. I understand. I see that you don't care about people's opinion about your appearance. Because sometimes you also show it on your YouTube. Or on the YouTube of people who come to your house and make content with you. I mean, how can you still have a clear limit when you're in Jakarta and you're in Jogja And not Because sometimes I like The rush that brought from Jogja to Jakarta

Or vice versa This is like two different people

Because it is true that in Jogja it is for rest If in Jakarta, my mindset is working The mindset is already working But if at home, the mindset is not working

So free I don't want to think about anything The mindset is that I'm working. But at home, the mindset is that I'm not working.

So, I'm free. I don't want to think about anything. Even when I went back to Jogja, I didn't take the offer. I really enjoyed it as much as I wanted.

You spent thousands of millions? Yes. But, I mean, have you ever seen her Instagram? Either her or Koko. When they were traveling abroad.

Where were they going? Hong Kong or Japan? The one they bought or...

Singapore, the one I like, the one I shopped. In Singapore.

I mean, he's already a Papanatas artist. He went to Singapore to shop. He shopped by himself, I was a Papanatas artist. I went to Singapore to shop. I was alone in my head. I was like a shopaholic. Is it because no one knew you?

Some people knew me. Some people knew me. But it was during the holidays. I brought my family, my brother, my assistant. We enjoyed it.

We imagined it was the same. We imagined it was like we had just bought it from Brengarjo. So, we didn't buy branded stuff. We bought it from Singapore, the famous one. Orchard, where is it?

What?

The market there. So, we treated it like we're shopping in Brinjarjo. For example, Singaporeans who shop in Malioboro are in Brinjarjo. But I shop in Singapore. So, we treat it the same.

As a perantok, I still feel that living in Jakarta is very stressful. Really? Really. It's like we're on the road and it feels like we're in a war. Because the view on the road is everyone with their own ego and interests. They're fighting each other.

So on the road, it's not like we're enjoying the road, but it's like we're in a war.

The wind is blowing. You enjoying the journey, but like I'm in a war with people. The wind is blowing. You know the wind, right? And why am I so confident? I mean, for my daily life, my style, my dressing, I'm confident. Because, according to my belief,

all artists are the same as me. Yes, actually. If you want to be honest, If you want to be honest. I also have a belief, Yes, that's true. Actually, if we're all honest, I have a belief that if I'm beautiful, I won't lose to them. But if I'm not, I'll just go through all the surgery.

I'll be arrogant. I mean, I'll be like this. That's why I'm confident.

But in Jakarta, if you were evaluating from the perspective of appearance, because in Jakarta, if you look at it from the perspective of appearance, because in Jakarta, you look more masculine, in Jakarta, when we meet people, the appearance is really valued.

That's why in the beginning, I bought a branded bag with Deswita, I wasn't considered as the one Deswita bought.

Because of your appearance. Because at the beginning, the appearance looks I think this city is intimidating people People and everything The way they look at other people First, it's their looks That's why we

Sometimes we want to have a meeting Or just meet Sometimes we Unconsciously want to give a good impression To other people If it's the same If I'm going home, where do I want to give a bad impression to others. It's the same when I'm going back to my hometown.

I can go wherever I want.

Actually, I prefer this. If we meet a client or anyone, important people, I want to show them what I'm really like. So, what will people think of me?

Will they be shy? Or will they respond well? You like to judge people from their physical appearance, right? I want to make people disappointed, but when they work, they will be satisfied. So, don't judge people by their appearance or physique.

You'll be deceived. Appearance is good, but he's not professional.

Right.

But he's a good person. He's a good person.

That's my initial thought when I was in Jakarta. But I couldn't do it in Jakarta.

But, you said about the operation, you have a good intention, right? can't. But earlier, you said you're interested in surgery. Not yet. I mean, you're...

No, no.

We have a lot of professional surgeons. Sometimes, you're interested, but not interested.

No, no. I've had a lot of offers, even free. All the facilities are free. I can do any surgery for free.

She said she wants to do a jaw surgery.

It's't happen?

But with Sohima's capital and being known for her good looks, it's a good capital if Sohima wants to go into the political world.

No.

Why not?

No.

But there's an offer.

I have an offer. Because my brain can't handle it. I have to be aware. I have to be aware. I don't want to...

But sometimes, what you need is not only the intelligence. Then what? But you want to serve it.

No.

You want to serve your husband well?

Serve him? What do you want to serve? It's different, right? Serve the people or serve your husband. I don't serve my husband well. I'm not a perfect wife.

So, I mean... No.

To be honest... Blessed.

No, I can't. I'm afraid. If I have hundreds of trillions, I will do it.

Because you're comfortable with your life.

No. I mean, so I won't be corrupt.

But in your area or your birthplace, have you ever been told that you're a local princess?

I have.

And you refuse it? Yes, I have. And you refused?

No, I didn't find her. Because if I found her, I would have taken a photo and it would have been in the news. If I didn't find her, I would have taken a photo and it would have been everywhere. It would have been in the news, that she's a local princess, she's a local candidate. I would have taken a photo from everywhere.

But you were afraid of corruption? Yes. But what you're afraid of is corruption. One, corruption. Two, it's not safe. Three, my brain is not capable. There are many things. So, you decided that you will dedicate your life to the art world

as long as you can. Yes. Wow, that's amazing. Art.

But we never know what the future will be like. Because actually, I want to make many people happy. Sometimes when I talk about, especially in this condition, I talk about the sadness of the people. Like now, I'm actually sad and want to cry too. But what can I do?

See, I want to cry, but what can I do? See, I want to cry. Because what we feel is the same as what we feel. Imagine, we have a stamp as an artist, we can feel that pain. Especially for the little people. I can't imagine.

Who knows this is a call of heart, someone who has empathy.

But no, no.

Not that way.

How come it's like this? But I mean, no, no. I don't know what to do. Although I haven't thought about what to do. Because I have a rough way of speaking. Which can't be accepted by everyone.

So if I become an officer or a police officer, I'll say, this is dangerous. My goal is good, I'll just go for it. The important thing is work, the important thing is what I'm going to do. But not everyone can accept that.

But in the context of work, it's like, sorry,

like Mr. Ahok, it's the same, right?

Well, Mr. Ahok has a high education. I'm a student. I didn't get to... You're high, too. You're also in college. Yes, but I didn't finish it. I didn't finish it.

But you did go to college, right?

Yes.

Obviously, you didn't get a license, right?

Yes, obviously, you didn't get a license. That's obvious. Yeah. Sometimes, the response is dangerous.

Yeah.

We didn't want to go there. We're used to it. Your response is dangerous.

Yeah.

And then, how to manage... the results of the story... while working, Koko. When you think... there's a term... I have to think about it. I have to think about it. I have to think about it. There is a saying,

don't put too many eggs in the same basket. There is a saying, don't put too many eggs in the same basket. I have to think about it.

All my income and my work

is from my colleagues.

Oh, you mean the finance minister?

Yes, I was the finance minister

Oh

And how did you allocate the money?

Well

You invested?

Yes, I invested Because, you know, the older you get, the calmer you get because you're young But when you get old, I don't know what to do. And I feel like I'm running out of money.

Why is that? The more we go to the bank, the more we need money. It's never-ending. So, it's like... It's like the money keeps coming in and out. So sometimes it's hard to save money,

if the work is not going well. So, if we have COVID, and we don't have a long program, it will be cut off if we don't have other businesses. Right? Yes.

So, it's like a stick.

But it's true. That feeling is true. Back then, maybe in the early days of my career, I had this much money, I was happy. When it came, it was like, wow, finally, I achieved something.

But, it's already...

You haven't achieved anything yet.

It's empty.

I mean, there's a new target.

It's empty.

That's why I'm doing this now. Whether there's a goal or not, I just want to make you relax.

I'm not sure how to do it.

Maybe you have to find this point. Because I don't...

You have to be content with yourself. Be content with yourself. Maybe because my lifestyle is different from the way I'm not a self-sufficient person. Self-sufficient.

Or maybe because my lifestyle is different from Sampean's lifestyle.

Sampean's lifestyle?

For example... What is it? I have money, but I don't have money, but I eat the same.

You use your hands, right?

You use your hands, right?

You eat it.

You eat it.

Because if you have money, she uses her hands.

If she doesn't, she uses her butt.

My daily lifestyle, my way of dressing, where I go to ride my motorbike, I eat, I don't eat in a big amount. You're not luxurious.

I'm not luxurious, I'm not disgusting. And I do... do any dirty work I've been doing that comfortably So even if I don't have money, if I want to eat People won't think I don't have money Because when I have money, I eat the same

So people sometimes don't know when I'm in a bad condition. They understand it as if I'm in a bad condition. But I believe it. It's okay. If I talk, you guys want to help me, right?

So, yeah. If people think like that, I believe it. So, I'm as calm as that. I've reached that point, Mr. Dika. No, I've been doing this for years, and I've started to change.

In the beginning, I was in a hurry to make money, but now I'm not. I've been through the TOKB, too. Now, for example, a car.

I'm in Jakarta, and I'm like, who's the artist whose car is not good? I'm like, who's the artist whose car is not good? I've been there too Now, for example Now, for example, a car I'm in Jakarta, who is the artist whose car is not good? Everything is good, right? I'm still innova

I'm Veloz

Because if I bought a Velfire yesterday I sold it for 300p. 300 million. And the tax was also high. The tax was high, the price was high. The price was like that. We bought it for Rp. 1,000,000.

We worked for years, and we spent all the money. So now, it's up to us. It's up to want to buy. I just want to go to the studio and do what I want. I don't want to be a busybody.

I've never bought branded stuff. I've had enough. I've never bought anything. I'm tired of it.

Was it actually influenced by social media? We became too easy to see people's lives. So, it feels like it's easy to want to... In those phases, maybe it was like that.

In the past, I wanted to appreciate the client, Mr. Dika. For example, we were off in an off-air job, and we're paid hundreds of millions, why don't we wear something else? What kind of bag? What kind of branded bag?

Actually, I wanted to appreciate those who are paid a lot. Even their looks. That's how it was. But I had to change. That's what made it like this.

Some viewers said, Soema was paid hundreds of millions.

Yes, indeed.

Yes.

But that's a very possible value to be paid to an entertainer. But maybe this is the phase. The phase is this. I maybe this is the phase. The phase is the same. I'm also experiencing the same thing. But I realized,

I've talked to my wife several times, I realized that the value of money now doesn't have any meaning. Yeah. If we had 1 million,

we could buy anything we want. Now 1 million is we can buy anything we want.

Now 1 million is not even 1 gram of gold.

Yes, the value of the rupiah is indeed unblocked every year. That's why, because the value of our own money is like you buy monthly shopping, for example, usually this much, now this much. So, like, we spend that much money, we feel really tired of working. But, we can't save it.

There are moments like that.

We have to be smart.

Sometimes, if we have a big salary, we have a big honor. But, what we spend for shooting, for other things, is also big.

So, people who are evaluated,

they see it as a waste. Shooting for what needs is also big. Yes, it is. So, people who are evaluated, people see it as raw, right? Wow, this is the payment, the money is pure, the money is not fake. They don't know our output is also big for

what is it called, the process when we shoot, when we work, when the needs are what, they never know. We can buy one lipstick for almost a million. While lipstick, all the colors have to be there.

That's lipstick. But sometimes... For girls, yes.

If we suddenly leave Jakarta, and we go to Jogja, or Semarang, or anywhere, a city that's not as hectic as this We don't think about work

It feels like life is just fine Just eat, just live 15 thousand, we're full It feels like, why is it alive? We can enjoy the time when it feels slow

I was off for a year The one where the industry didn't have a job I was off for a year, right? I was off for a year, I was really off for a year. There was no income at all. I was just living my life. I was just living my life.

So, we can't be too worried that we can't live?

I don't think so. I've thrown it far away. I was just living my life. As long as there are plants, vegetables, just like our own plants. Even wild palm trees can be grown.

Even raw papaya can be grown. Andika is right. If we go to the regions, even Jogja, for me, it's still my number one priority. I want to spend my old age there.

Because I feel that if I go to Jogja, it's slow living, but we're still alive. And there's no competition. No competition. It's cheap food. The disease that makes our lives very... ...uncomfortable is competition.

The feeling when we're in Jakarta... ...we just stay still. It feels like we're losing to other people. The other one is running. Why are you staying still? It's actually okay.

We stay still and enjoy the moment. But the pressure... We run, the other one is riding a motorcycle. He's losing. We're riding a motorcycle, that's what makes it We run The other one rides a motorcycle He loses

We ride a motorcycle

He rides a car

It's like we're close to the artist

This is shit

You're shooting every day Why don't I have it? Then there's a question Why haven't I been on TV? We're trapped with questions like that When I't I been on TV before? We were hooked on those questions. When I was on live for a year,

there were a lot of questions.

How did you handle it?

No, I didn't need to handle it.

You didn't ask for it?

Actually, there were. But I didn't take it. But I didn't need to explain. It's not important.

Right.

You don't need to do that. It's up to you. You can say whatever you want. It's up to us to do it.

Right.

It's that simple.

Right.

Sometimes it's hard for us to keep it in our head. She's facing... She to keep our heads down. He faced people like this. He faced the devil in front of him who doesn't have self-esteem.

What do you mean?

I'll tell you. You might not know. I don't know if he ever told me or not. So, I was playing. With you guys, Yarobun? Yes, with Yarobun too. I took everyone to Jogja.

We went out. And we went to Ma'e's place. At that time, there was a babysitter, Aiko. My daughter.

I was at the back. The driver was showing the lights collection to Koko and Soima. When we got back Why are these people so noisy?

And my wife was holding my neighbor's assistant

When we got there, I don't know, the police came

If it's someone else, there's a process And... People... If...

If other people have a process...

There's a process.

What? Why?

They play it first.

If it's a gimmick, they play it first. They extend it. The duration is extended. If it's with him, it's a failure. I don't know. I forgot what he said.

He was slapped.

Twice. He was slapped twice.

He realized it.

He knew it.

He knew it.

Maybe he said, I made a mistake.

He knew it. Crazy.

He's as confident with the ghost? Humans have a higher degree of fear than ghosts. There's a process, like, try to press the toes. You don't have that, Sohima.

What did you say?

You're a ghost!

Your family!

And then you just left.

A few months later, ART finally resigned from my house. He doesn't work anymore. He's gone. I mean, it's crazy. I'm sorry. Maluk Asral is just as brave as that.

Especially with humans, maybe he feels like,

I don't care what people say. I don't care what people say as long as I don't bother their lives. My family is fine too. So, that's enough.

I'm curious, a Soima P So, that's enough. I'm curious.

A Soi Mepancawati.

What's her sport?

I mean, five.

I want to do sports, but I don't have friends. My grandpa is a street sportsman. He's a street sportsman. I don't have friends. I want to have one.

What kind of friends? Active ones. Like dancing or something.

Not really. But I mean, activities. Cleaning the house, changing positions. The important thing is to sweat. Singing kura-kura.

The important thing is activities.

That's activities activity, and sports In Jogja, there are a lot of padel,

and tennis

Look at Mas Koko's belly, it's getting bigger This is better

It's bigger We are trying to maintain a healthy lifestyle Like eating vegetables What is it called? It's not a diet But we are trying to maintain a healthy lifestyle

Avoid sugar, eating healthy Always be aware It's not a diet But we are aware As we get older, the food I eat...

Who?

She's starting to be healthy.

I'm trying to do something good.

That's good.

This is a new phase.

This is a new phase This is also a phase we are going through We are in that phase

But if you do sports, you haven't

Why do you say I want to exercise but I don't have friends There is no such thing in Jogja I mean, as soon as You are afraid of it, you don't have friends

No, I mean, not that you don't have friends? No, I mean, it's not like that. Sports need consistency, right? I like sports that are together. For example, if we call a Zumba teacher, for example, one of them, they have to be together.

We can't force people to pay for everything, right? Even though sports's like... What is it?

She has to talk to Soleh Solihun Soleh Solihun can do exercise by himself He can walk for 30 minutes In his house's backyard Yesterday we talked to him We said, you're not bored, why should you be bored?

My goal is to run or walk I don't want to talk to people, I don't need a lot of people Meanwhile, I'm fighting with you

The one who exercises should be crowded

Invite Mas Goko to exercise with us You have to be more active. You have to be more active. Yes. You should invite him to join us.

Yes.

Because the consistency is the hard part.

I'm just pretending.

I'm just joking.

I think consistency is later.

The important thing is to start.

Start first. If you start, you'll get it. I'm the one who's not good at it. I'm not good at it. Start from the beginning, once you get it, you'll be consistent. I was the one who was nervous. I was nervous when I was in the gym. Because I've been in the gym for a year.

Before that, I felt like, you're so strong.

You have a lot of stamina. He was in the room, not in the gym. Me and Sure were in the gym. We were like, let's go to the gym. But when she tried, it was consistent.

And she ran. She asked me to run.

I was like, what?

But when she tried,

Alhamdulillah.

So, it's necessary.

I have an intention to do sports. Actually, she needs a mat the intention Actually, I think she needs a fan She needs her circle Come on, let's try Because people like us We are busy and all kinds

Sometimes we have an idealist What are you doing? But if you try, you have to be forced You have to be forced Try it, I have to do it.

I have to try. I really want to. But I want to go out. I was invited by Mr. Adel. But sometimes I want to go out. But what I can do now,

I do it first. From food. Avoid sugar. Avoid rice. You still have to pray.

But he's a housewife yes, but if I'll tell you the story the story of a Jogja person who is in Jakarta, not exercising I'm from Jakarta

I went to Jogja to exercise yesterday I went to Jogja with Ayu and his friends

until

crazy, yesterday you also went to Jogja with Ayu and his friends Until... You went to Jogja to practice too?

Yes, until Jogja I stayed at my friend's house for a while And then I went to Padel's field I played tennis and played pickleball

It was so far from Jakarta to Jogja

Tomorrow when I go back to Jogja I will practice with my kids Ayu and Aru

We are getting older

This is a conversation that has been 40 years and up Like, are you diabetic? This man is not

I'm diabetic, thank God, I'm safe Cholesterol

This is cholesterol Even though I do sports, my cholesterol is still high LOL Yeah, no one understood it yet No one understood it yet But I started exercising because of my trigger My dad had a heart attack And my mother-in-law had a heart attack My mother-in-law had diabetes for a long time Before she passed away I saw the health progress.

I didn't want my parents to bother my son or anyone else. Because my parents were in a phase where they needed help from the bed. It was quite a trigger. On the one hand, I felt like, I just started working, I feel like I'm running out of energy in 2-3 hours. I'm too lazy to go anywhere during the holidays.

My body just doesn't feel right. Then I saw my dad, and suddenly my heart... My dad is a fresh man. He's big, he's strong, he's fresh. I was like, why is my heart like that? Why is it so hard? Even though it's a fresh start. Yeah, it's a fresh start.

I started thinking. I was always like, I'm going to do sports. It triggered me. I was like, okay, whatever.

But if you have a heart attack, don't do too much sports.

Don't do too much.

Just do enough. That's why I use that watch To see the heart rate Let's go to see Koko

Let's go

I already imagine

Koko's outfit How? If you run, you wear long pants Run shoes Back hat, black glasses Run clothes Still bring camera I wear running shoes, black sunglasses, and running clothes.

I still carry a camera. What about motorbikes?

I rarely go around on a motorbike. But I do go to the workshop. I still go to the workshop. What about you, Nobby? I don't have any hobbies. Hahaha Hahaha The workshop is still there

What do you do now? I don't do anything

You still farm? I still farm but not as much as before Not as extreme Before I was so extreme I would still farm at 7 in the morning I would wake up at 6

Yeah

Now I don't do to sleep at 6 am. I don't like to sleep at 6 am. What about collecting antique items? What do you think about that? What do you think about that?

Actually, both of us like it. I like antique items. We like antique items. Like wood, or something else. He likes to collect

metal objects. I like to collect things that can be used, for example, the cupboard. For example, it has a function. But for him, he doesn't like the ones that are sticky, or the ones that are hard to reach. He doesn't like it.

What about the light? He has a big it, like this. The lamp is from what year, I don't know. And then, yesterday, the last one was this, a wood, sir. A bongol wood.

What kind of wood is that, Ma'am?

A real wood. Which one? The one that was supported?

Yes, the one that was...

Yes, the one with 4 pillars? Yes, it should be 4.

Pukon.

Pucokos.

You're a gold digger.

You're a gold digger. I rarely go to Jogja. It's expensive.

I told my family,

I'm serious. You just put it there?

I just put it there.

Because it's so big, sir. Big and long.

Oh, not a place to sit or something? No.

Oh, a bonggol.

A box like that.

No, not a bonggol. A bonggol is this, right? It's a a surprise. Maybe back then, so it's... coming out of... the Bungawan Solo River that is overflowing.

Finally there are trees, the trees appear. When we investigated, there should be four. But we found three. One in my place, one in Bojongoro, one in Bali. With the same length and shape.

The other one I haven't met yet. The story is, when they were digging, For example, in Pendopo, there are four pillars. Imagine, the pillars of the old times, I don't know what kingdom it was from, it was 15 meters long, so how big was it?

The people too, or the old days. But for sure, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong too. So for sure, what was it like?

So until then, there still time to find out. Because people who collect things,

it's like verification, like, oh, this is a kingdom.

Yes. Sometimes we don't do it on purpose, sir. For example, we hunt for goods. It turns out that there are codes in the item that we already knew. So, we keep looking for the items from that year, and who owned it, and what's the story behind it.

It's a bit confusing, right? I've been working with a woodworker for 750 years. He's been counting the threads.

Wow, that's huge. Yes, that's it. You invest, right?

Yes, I invest. That's why when you buy wood, it's better to be old wood. It won't rot. The longer it is, rot. It will be more durable. Moreover, the wood is soaked from the Bungan Solo River.

They said that if the wood is soaked in water, and the wood is exposed to rain, it will be stronger.

It will be stronger.

That's why they put it outside, not protected by anything. They said it's really strong.

It's just that the color fades away because of the heat.

Has anyone ever come and said, Sir, pay for it.

Have you ever? No, never. They said, it's not necessary.

The price is low, sir.

Wow. No.

Wow, if people know. I can't imagine. Wow, wow, wow. If only people knew. Wow. But he's happy with antique stuff. He's happy. And his hobby is collecting motorcycles. Have you ever been in a fight because of that? No.

You just support him?

I support him more than he supports a girl. If he wants to ride a motorcycle for a month, I won't hold him, it's okay. Wow. What? Compared to him, he's a girl. I'm sick of it. I don't care what kind of motorbike you have. I never take care of it. I don't know what kind of motorbike it is.

I never take care of it.

The important thing is, when you ride a motorbike, I'm also riding it.

I mean, I never do that. I was also raised

I mean, I never did that before What about the money?

Now, there was a chance yesterday but I have already proclaimed that no matter how close we are, even our family, I will not lend money again. Because sometimes we lost a lot of friends.

Sometimes it's not good for the family.

So, for example, we just give it as much as we can. We are in a phase. It's hard to make money. It's hard to save up. We have a big responsibility. So, our friendship will be...

smaller. So, it's not...

I just realized. I mean, we talked for a long time. Every time I talked, I was in that phase. I was in that phase. I'm in that phase.

Back then, I couldn't... People couldn't do it because of what? Because I was in trouble. I imagined if there was this person, this person, my brain would go back to the old days.

And in the end, it's all messed up.

Especially when we feel that we're lucky. that we feel that we're lucky

Alhamdulillah

With the results we get, we feel like it's okay

Sometimes it's like that

But in the long run, we realize There are many people who take advantage of us Many people who are not stingy Many people who are like that Even being treated like a bank without a bank account Yes, so people

Even now, if I'm live, there are still many people asking for money If you want to borrow money, you have to go to the bank I'm a bank, I like to go to the bank

So now you're already broke for that problem? So now you're already broke for that problem?

I'm broke, I can't