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Somos Famosas 😎⭐️ l Las Alucines l 02x17

Somos Famosas 😎⭐️ l Las Alucines l 02x17

Las Alucines

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0:00

Hey, dude, we need something more hallucinating, right?

0:02

I think so. Are we going crazy or what?

0:05

The hallucinations Boots and hat, man The hallucinations Drinking liters of champagne Hello!

0:23

I love it when in videos for... It's to frame the sound, right, Claudia? Hola! How are you guys? I'm so excited to be here in this chat. Yes, we are very excited. You know, I'm going to confess something. There are many times where... I hope I said something bad, right? There are many times where we record before, right? And we're actually recording this on Tuesday to upload it on Monday. I like when that happens.

0:58

I love it. When we're very close to the time. Because we're going in real time. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started.

1:07

I'm going to go ahead and get started.

1:09

I'm going to go ahead and get started. We just want to tell you that... Do we want to say something about this? I think this is a good moment. It seems like we're not angry, guys. You know what's going on? I feel... I can say this. We've always been very clear that our family, the staff, or people like that,

1:40

we have to let them exist a little. We love that you love Juan, Arturo, Maylin, Victoria, I mean, everyone. Nobody loves you, Pablito. I'm going to treat you badly? Well, because your brain flipped. No, it's not true. Obviously, niggers also have to be treated well, you know? But I feel like in Torreón, it came out a little bit of what we consider correct.

2:20

But I do think we take it in a comical way. Of course. We never get mad. No, and it's something that they don't know, because obviously, unlike how many people saw the video, let's put it in context a little bit, kids. We were there for the Torreon show,

2:36

because a girl went and took a picture with Juan and hugged him. So, Quesito told me, hey, look, and things like that, right? But they thought we were super annoying. And something they don't know about this context is that we came from the number of the aunts. That the aunts are very like that. Let go of me! Let go of me!

2:55

Exactly. And she respects it, beautiful. We brought all the rush and feeling of aunts who are very critical and it's precisely the act that is most carried with the audience. Exactly. We are super carried with the audience. Yes, to tell the audience, what are they doing here? Oh no, what a shit, everyone sitting here, all naked, who brings them, they have no business.

3:17

I mean, it's a fight between the girls and the audience, those who have gone to the show know it. So we came from that rush, from the girls, and we had the same thing. That happens, that more than, more than Zito knows the subject that Juan has with physical contact. I mean, it's more than a subject

3:32

that he got jealous,

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that Zito also says,

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no way.

3:36

First of all, I'm going to tell you something.

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I think it's a mortification. When the audience is all seated, which is exactly when we go out again after the aunties, then the whole audience is seated.

3:48

Whenever someone stops the audience, they won't let us lie. It's like, where are you going? Even if they go to the bathroom. It's like, where are you going? I see her and I say, where are you going? But when I saw that she grabbed Juan like that, and I saw him tense. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

4:05

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I've said it on the show, Quecitos are my eyes for the most part of my life, while we're together. And they're all witnesses. Lupita is?

4:30

Yes, I don't see anything, so the Italian Quecito has to focus me. You'll notice that on shows, Quecito talks to me here, when there are signs, so he sees me, he says that hallucinations are the best thing in the world. That's it, hallucinations are the best thing in the world! I'm like, what? And I'm focusing on that. And you're on the other side. Yes, like this. And they're already closing the door.

4:47

Ah, ok.

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It's a person.

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Ah, ok.

4:50

She's always translating the world. So, really, Chamaco. So, when I suddenly, without seeing it, look, I don't know what, she points because we're used to her pointing at me so I can see. It wasn't like... Ehh! No way! You! No!

5:05

And there are many videos where Cristito points out posters, people, whatever, for me to focus and see what's going on. So that happens, man. There's a mess on the internet.

5:15

Literally, we...

5:16

I feel that when we did all that mess, you can hear it in the videos, everyone laughed. Yes! Even she laughed, everything was fine. I think for us it was a shock to wake up and see all the hype. Lupita Villalobos goes all out against Fan. No way. I mean, all the people in the show.

5:35

Lupita Villalobos fights for her husband's love with Fan. And I was like, really? Lupita Villalobos attacks Fan in the middle of the show. of her husband with Fan. And I was like, but really? Lupita Villalobos attacks Fan in the middle of the show.

5:49

When was that?

5:50

No way, look, in the first one, the girl caught the elbow super fast, in that second, so, oh yeah, a photo, this and that, and in that moment she sat down again. Nothing else happened, there was no fight, there were no fights, there was no...

6:04

They grabbed each other and it was like, nothing happened. There was no fight, no arguments, no... They started screaming and I was like,

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Stop!

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Nothing happened. So, what was that? The fight was on Friday or Saturday? Let's say, this weekend. Lupita and I were like, Dude, it did happen like we remembered.

6:20

I mean, nothing happened. I mean, I was so scared that I turned around and saw her. I was like, what a bitch!

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And, everyone was like, we all want a friend like Quesito. And I was like, yes. Because it looks like the friend... What did Fredo say? He sent a picture like this. I'm going to send this one when... They're pedaling your bike.

6:42

Yes, Q are. I loved it. But it was a lot because I don't see him and because obviously we know what it causes Juan. Not even that subject of photos, I don't greet him or anything, kids, but the physical contact, I mean...

6:57

In the end, I saw comments that said that he can handle it because he's her husband and she wanted to make him famous. Hey, no. that he can handle it because he's her husband and she wanted to make him famous. No. Juan has his private account. I came to talk about him here because it's part of my life. But he doesn't want fame, he doesn't.

7:13

He has his job, he dedicates himself to other things and whatever you want. But from there, he can handle it because no one has to endure. No, listen, and I also know that being exposed a little more than that, ¿Nadie se tiene que aguantar? I'm not going to dance today. No. I got really mad. Yes. But I'm going to tell you. The reason I didn't dance was because it was really cold and we got really bad colic.

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And I understand that it's normal, but then I asked my mom and she said, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,

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I don't know, I didn't dance was because it was very cold and we got very strong colic. And in the end, I understand that it's normal, but then they ask Maylin. Every time I went in for changes, I would tell Maylin, I'm going to get my pants dirty, I'm going to get dirty, I'm going to get dirty. And I tell them, I know it's normal, but I didn't, it's my decision to not want that.

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Me? Why?

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And it's something that hurts me too, because I said, and I say it clearly, kids, that I crawl on the floor, because, I don't give a shit, I mean, there are times when I don't even have to throw myself on the floor and Poopy is on the floor, like, I don't know.

8:40

Because I love the show, and the case is that I do it and I get there and they don't even see the act of dancing, dude, nothing. And I take a few steps out of my ass and for me to do it, what? Yes, what? And I said, bitch, I mean. I always do it, really, I mean, when I do it, so that you can see that yes, I mean, it's not like I say that I hate, I hate doing shows. But it's not the cotorreo, I say yes. And I love that there have been times where I tell them, hey, not today, and everyone understands. But this time.

9:07

I think the complicated thing about that day was that there was something even vulnerable on my part that I said, like, hey, I explained to them, obviously, I tell them, I know it's normal, but it's not like I'm going down, huh? That you know what I mean is that we gave that explanation, like, hey, I'm going to stain my pants.

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I mean, like all this stuff that I didn't want to go through. And in the end, I did dance and I already felt like a chango, you know, like, hey, hey, hey, you know? So, like, I understand. I mean, in the end, I've always said that the networks changed my life completely. It gives me a level of joy that I had no idea.

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It gives me a level of creativity that I had no idea. But I don't think my body belongs to people. I mean, my body, I feel like it doesn't. Sure, and besides, when we come from... We bring a ladder to the show. I saw comments that said,

10:02

Well, they're paying. They're paying to go, you have to dance. No, no, no, you're not paying to demand that we do things outside of what is already scheduled. That at the moment of the show we are stuttering and we continue the roll and everything, that's one thing.

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But that they want to put us as clowns. And I think that really, the whole audience understood it perfectly, except for one person who insisted on this. And that's why I said, no, Preciosa, she's not going to dance. When I said that, you said, no, she's going to. But my heart was like, we didn't come for that.

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She feels bad, she's super sensitive, she didn't want to take off her coat because she was cold. And suddenly, and we not that sensitive these days. Many people say, it's normal, but it's also normal to feel sensitive. I mean, no. And suddenly, it was like,

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no, it's so beautiful the show we're practicing and all that. And in the end, it's not enough.

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That's what people made us feel.

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Come on, dance!

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And the comments are like, we pay, we pay to see the show. And then they say, I said, we need to have coherence. If it didn't feel good, we would have canceled the show

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to give a good show the next day. Hey, and I disrespect all the people that are working. And we gave a good show. We see each other the next day. We did the whole show. I mean, nothing that I really had to do

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of the show that is written, I skipped it.

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Nothing?

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Nothing.

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I mean, there was not a thing that I didn't do. And I swear, I told. I already asked God not to stain you. I already asked God. So, like, I mean, really, believe me, every change I make, I say, Mom, stop, stop, stop. And in the end, I tell them,

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I didn't want to go through that embarrassment, and it's valid.

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Of course!

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Stop! And if we told them as friends on the show, everyone understood. I'm So she's a van start again. You talk to me. I know they hope it's a pirouette perfect But I think hey, oh yeah, yeah, I think I'll do it

12:15

I mean, I'll just say I get pushed to see a one-time push But you know, I'm not sure what you think. We know something to get to bailo

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Yeah, but oh bueno, well. What is the topic of today? The topic of today is being denied. Oh, well, I do, before. What I do want to say is that, really, it's that, listen.

12:25

The mess that is created in the show is not a door for you to do the type of things that happened on social media.

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I mean.

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Because they do the show, and they fix the show,

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and they stay in the show. We literally took it as a joke when we were there. The whole audience took it as a joke. It's not a door for you to say later,

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stupid!

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No, kids. And apart, be careful. When you see videos of the show, be careful, a lot can be taken out of context very quickly because we are in characters, because we are in a very different euphoria because if you don't understand the context behind it you're going to say, Lupita is a whore who threatens to cut her boobs off and throw them away.

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No, because there was a part where I said, did you hear the girls talk about prostitution? Because the girls end up believing that they are prostitutes. Exactly.

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And they end up saying that,

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Between them two.

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How are we going to explain that we are prostitutes? of I'm like, no, man, me, okay. No, but when you're there in the corner, you already have a thread. So, really, everything you see in the shows, kids, no, I mean, understand that there's a context. Unless we're hitting someone. That's a big way. But don't take those clips out of context because...

13:56

You have to know the story behind it, and we're saints. And we don't do anything wrong. I'm I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. Uh-huh. How is it? More hugs, less bullets. And more applause, less clothes.

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That's it!

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Come on!

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Very good.

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So what's the topic for today? Well, you know, we're going to be gossipy. But the topic for today, Nigeria, are you going to play me a little music like... What is it?

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Like...

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Like a trend. Like a trend and flash.

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Trend and flash. I love it.

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On camera. One, two, three. I have a new move today.

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Which one?

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If the camera is on, you'll see it. You have to see it, right? My new move today. Let's see. Dude, it's incredible. Check it out. I see Me know ♪♪

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¿Sabes cuál es mi parte favorita? Que escucho los ruidos de tu boca.

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¿Sabes qué?

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Sí, es cierto, sí, es cierto.

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Y yo.

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Sí, es cierto. Ese no me pasó.

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Wow. Es así como de que... Como que tu cara es de que te está moviendo un chorro perreando. Pero no te está moviendo. Pero no te mueve. That's my new passion. Wow! It's like your face is moving, like a jet is moving, but it's not moving. It's like your mommy.

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You know?

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And where would you do it?

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In the club?

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I think in the kitchen.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Well, I already introduced you to my new dance. Um... I think in the kitchen. Okay. Yes. Well, I already introduced you, don't dance. I loved it. Yes, right? I feel like you would look amazing. Because it's like a feeling of your foot pressed.

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Yes, but... But it's expensive, like things are happening. Yes, yes. But well, after that, I hope Nigiri you have put a little music of... Yes, also in that. I'm going to do it like this. I got a clip of the... I mean, I'm the...

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I'm laughing so much.

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I'm the little... I want to breathe. I'm laughing like...

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Stop.

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So, the topic of today,

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after this podcast,

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is that we are going to talk about

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the topic of the day. And we are going to talk about Like, ding ding! Ya! Bueno...

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Entonces, el tema del día de hoy, después de esta performance que hicimos las dos, es...

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Ridiculeces.

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No, ya lo hicimos.

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¡Somos famosas!

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Y un chorro de flachazos. Y hazle así, hazle así.

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Flache, flache.

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Ya! Ya!

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Yes! Exacto. Flash, flash! Yes!

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Let me go!

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We're not really famous, but we wanted to put the title Hallucin. Yes, because remember that we are everything we want to be. Of course, and here we exaggerate everything for our convenience. So in all the comments it has to be like, wow, they are the most famous? Yes. They are the ones that are known as the famous? Wow! So, they are the famous ones. And why did we want to do this episode? Where does it come from?

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Lupita said something very smart before we started recording. She said, we always talk about things from the past, but we don't talk about current things. I mean, yes, we talk about current things, but not about what has happened to us right now. So, that's why we wanted to do this topic where we're going to talk about our life as an influencer, as a blogger, as a creator of digital content, no, as a creator of digital entertainment. And also as a performance.

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Performance star. And not all the people, because you don't dance. Because you don't want to get your pants dirty. You don't dance because you're a woman.

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Because they tell you to, because you menstruate. Oh, come on!

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So, we want to talk about this stage, kids. For all those people who want to dedicate themselves to this world of digital entertainment.

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Well, let them know.

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We say manual.

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Guru.

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Guru of digital entertainment. So let them know. We are still manual. Guru. Yes.

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Guru of digital entertainment.

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Yes. So what do you think the emblematic, requested, known, Quetzipedia should say about the meaning of Somos Famosas?

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Somos Famosas.

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Of course, give us the one about the violin, Nigiris.

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You would have me very attacked.

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It didn't even come. I'm going to be in a

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I'm going to be in a But let's see, famous people. No, we are famous, not all people.

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You and me.

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Ah, ok.

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We are famous.

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You hallucinate, dude.

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What the fuck?

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That's the meaning?

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What?

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And there it is written, huh?

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I mean...

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What?

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We are famous, you hallucinate, dude.

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Let's see.

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What? It're famous, you have to hallucinate me. Let's see. What?

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It's like...

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I was like...

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I was like...

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I thought and I said...

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I saw it, I don't know.

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I thought...

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It disconcerted me.

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And I said...

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Look at that!

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My head exploded!

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No, but today we're not going to talk about how we became famous, but about how the experience of creating content has been, about how our first moment at Lucene was, because this topic is very hallucinating. Yes. I feel. Yes, yes, yes, the truth is yes. And how... How do we continue to be, despite our fame, how do we continue to have our feet on the ground? How do we continue to be so humble?

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So humble?

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And thin.

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What?

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Nothing to do with it.

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No, no, no, because the waist... No. I mean, I sit next to you and you don't see me. You don't see yourself. So, we, kids, for many people, think we started together. Sometimes I laugh, now that I'm in the Elliots, I laugh that they ask me, that sometimes they think we started in the Alusines. Ok.

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Of course, because we have a small community in Sanchez, right? But, how did you come up with, Okay. I was like, no, no, no, you're from RH and I applied for a job. And you were like, okay, there's no psychologist job right now, but have you thought about it? And I interviewed you and I liked you.

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I was like, hey.

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And yes, because when we talk, we laugh. Don't you think that, like, we're going to Mexico City now?

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And you were like, of course!

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That would have been really crazy.

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Crazy. I'm going to be like, of course! That would have been crazy! I would have loved that story.

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Without dedicating ourselves to this, I would have asked, how was it for you to leave your life, your city, all beautiful, Cas de Reynosa, to leave your home and come to create the illusions in Mexico? And I would answer,

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it was a challenging experience.

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You lied!

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It was a challenging experience, but at the same time sublime. Unexpected, and fantastic to this day. Pure adjectives, I'm going to finish. Well, it's fine.

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Something that gives us joy?

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Sure, I said, what a... not that it's a joke, but I said, I don't want to waste your time, so... No, look, I'm going to tell you. I'm a video for Vandamax, sorry,

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Yes, I... In the end, it was like, it was summarized in what words did you feel hallucinating? Well, fantastic, Sublime, Sublime, celestial, all of this. It's cool, that's why I made that video,

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so that you can understand the context, right? Because it's cool that everyone creates their own story. We're not here to correct anyone, you know? Yeah, if one day you guys come and tell us that you feel like you're the best in the world, well... I'm not going to contradict you, but if that's the case... Well, if that's the case, then... We are.

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Of course.

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So, tell me, I want to ask you a question. Did you ever think you were going to be 100% dedicated to social media?

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No, no.

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I feel like this topic is going to be really fun, because we've talked about this more or less in interviews, but we've never really talked about it here. We haven't had it this long and stretched out in one place. Exactly. I haven't.

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When I started making content on social media, it was because I was looking for a creative medium, where I could laugh and stuff. I'm not saying creative, like I was making theater plays on TikTok, I mean, no. But it was a creative way to laugh and everything.

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I remember when I came to Mexico City for a topic, that was when my agency contacted me, like, hey, I feel like this could be a job. And I was like, they want to scam me. que fue cuando me contactó mi agencia como de que, oye, siento que esto podría ser un trabajo y así. Yo de que me quieren estafar.

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Claro, siempre, siempre.

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Me quieren estafar, no te voy a dar la clave de mi WhatsApp. O sea, dije que, wey, no, te lo juro. Que en ese momento fue Ilse, un saludo a Ilse. Y ella fue de que, right? I mean, this is about talking. You want to kidnap me. I mean, for me it was like that. And I remember I was at my grandfather's house and I sat in the living room

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in a house full of crucifixes and Catholic core and everything. And I was like, dude, what the hell, here in Mexico City they scam very easily, dude. And they got your number and they're already swindling you. Hey, isn't that cool? I had no idea you could make social media. And obviously I came from seeing Yuya and all these things,

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but I was very detached from knowing that I could do a job. I consumed people from social media and everything, but I didn't know they made money. I didn't know what I was thinking. And besides, I was already old, so I couldn't understand anything. But for me, when they came up with the idea and made this plan and everything, I swear it was like, what the hell?

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Like, how?

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No. And that's when you found a reality that you didn't know existed. Do you agree? Of course. And I also feel like it was a reality of... I mean, I'm going to say bullshits,

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and I am entertaining people, and brands want me to keep entertaining them,

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and I say no.

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This sounds great.

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This smells like...

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Fraud.

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Drugs.

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Not here.

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Did you think you could be a social media addict? No, never, never, never. In fact, just listen. In fact, look, I once, a long time ago, I made a Facebook post

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about a situation I went through. I wrote a post and it went viral. I had a million reposts on Facebook. And I was like, no way. I closed my social media accounts. I didn't want that focus. You know? So, bye. No, no, no.

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Then, something else happened. It went viral, bye. No, no, no, no. Then, something else happened, which also went viral. And I told my friend, no, no, no, no, take it off, take it off, no, what a shame, I don't want to, I don't want to. I closed everything.

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Look, when it's for you, when it's for you, it's... So, there were situations where, suddenly, I remember, I made a video on Facebook, and it went viral. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm so embarrassed! So I deleted it, you know?

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I was scared of that part. But I had had 3 or 4 experiences of recognition, so to speak. And I was like, no, no, no, no, that's horrible. And that's when I say, when things are for you, even if you take them off, they're beautiful. So that was like,

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something that caught my attention, that I had, and at that time, it wasn't as visible, all the influencers and stuff. Then this thing started, Instagram and blah, blah,

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and I started to see how they moved. Well, obviously, too, whatever, Yuya, I mean, all that time I also saw it at that time, but I knew they made money on YouTube, you know? But not in the Instagrammers' era, who came to steal in their stories and make an exchange, economic exchanges, or for services or objects, whatever you want.

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And in Monterrey, they made a lot of money and I lived in Monterrey. So I already knew that several influencers did that. And I said, oh, that's cool. For me, it was super crazy to say, how, I mean, this girl was paid to go to Disney to enjoy her trip, to show everything, and that's why she was paid.

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I feel like it's similar. Like I knew it existed, but it made me very distant, like very distant.

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Very what?

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I mean...

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Yes.

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So when... Yes. I was like, oh, I can send you my shoes. I'm a typical person who wants to send you gifts. I can send you my shoes so you can mention them. And I was like, oh, sure. And she sent me some sneakers and I put them on. And the girl said, I can't, I received more than 2,000 orders. And that's when I realized, I said, wow, I see the responsibility that I have to suggest or mention anything because people believe my word and it will go.

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So I started taking those things and since I was going to work in a ranch, I said, no, what responsibility, dude, and if the shoes are bad and if they are pirates and if... I don't know, I got scared and I said no, no, no, no. But I saw that there was already the exchange and that happened after I told the viral story and whatever you want, right? And so, and then later Ilse comes up to me. I say, hi Ilse.

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I have to make a transaction. Ilse, wait, I'll do it for you. So Ilse comes up to me and says, Hey, wouldn't you like to come? I think you could be here formalizing this. And it's like, it gives you the structure.

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And that's good, kids, when agencies come to you, if you're creating content, if you give them a look, because it's real here, right? And then when that happens, I still followed Recursos Humanos because I said, dude, this is a little while, I mean, there's no way, look at that, there's no way I leave my normal job, I mean, my official job, with my 15-year salary, for something that, well, I don't know when I'm going to fall for. Because something I can say about creating content is that you do have certain authorities,

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for example, brands are suddenly your authority, your agency is your authority, it's not like, oh, when I want a job, huh? But you can be very stupid.

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Of course.

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I mean, you can say today, not today, right? And it's a very noble job where, to be honest, you also say today, like, not today, right? And it's a very noble job, where you also manage your schedules. So, I feel that for me it was very positive that I still had this normal job and I was doing networks, but I didn't mix them. I mean, I had a psychology blog, that's true, but I talked about psychology there. And in my personal networks, which has nothing to do with that, it was me, you know? So, I had these two very cool, of working on different things.

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But obviously when it started to get out of control, I had to make a decision. Because fame came and I was like, ah! But I do feel like it was really cool to be able to keep up with the social media wave while I was still having a noble job, which was psychology. Yes, 100%. And now, I would like you to remember your first viral video to put it here.

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Let's put our first viral video, which let's say, with this one, it was very viral. Let's see, this one...

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The one with the pump?

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No.

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No, that was a long time after, right? Yes, yes, yes, that was last year.

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Ah.

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Um... no, no, no. I went... where I felt it differently. That you said... Ah, yes, that maybe you're saying right now because you're very demanding in sight.

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I mean, I feel like you have 4 million views in an hour. Ah, so I do realize the change, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I feel like it was, because I did like, suddenly, trends or little things, audios that were going around, I feel like everyone did them. The first time I said, oh, I think this is a little different,

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was once I sat down at the bar bar in the house of Reynosa and a boyfriend I had took me out to eat, but I was going to eat alone because he had to go to work. And I said, was that before or after? You've always been very boyfriend-friendly.

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Yes, very boyfriend-friendly.

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And very gift-friendly. Well, I don't know if it was that one before or one after. It must have been once I decided to make a salad and I was going to eat it alone. So I talked about it on TikTok. Or it was first when the guy gave me the salad. It had to have been on different days.

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But it was when I finally got motivated to speak in a longer format, to tell. And I saw that a lot of people were like, Dude, tell me your personality and stuff. And for me that was viral, in an emotional way. I don't remember how many numbers it had, but it was very viral in an emotional way because there was already a feedback from my person.

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Of course. It was no longer just like, like, you know? There were already comments. So, I can put that video. I don't remember which one was first, but it's that one and they're going to look for it, okay? That video won't give you a cringe. I don't think so. What I remember is that I'm still the same,

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the only thing I remember is that I spoke very shyly. Because they didn't let me go with the one from the fucking dance. I feel like the only thing I noticed about that was that I spoke very shyly. If I speak quietly lot and slow, it's like... Come, come, come. That can give me a cringe, but it's not a big deal.

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I feel like I was the opposite. Before I was very loud. I was very loud, very loud. I'm calmer now.

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But then I was like...

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You know? What was the one that you felt like... I felt very morbid when I told my whole experience of infidelity. Which was like a lot of parts, like 28 parts. So, I felt that they liked my narrative.

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I think it was also the first time I sat down to talk, like, well, this happened to them, blah, blah, blah. There I felt a lot of interaction. I remember that on Instagram I went up, in a week, 100,000 followers, like crazy. interaction. Recuerdo que en Instagram subí de que en una semana cien mil seguidores, así de que una locura. Ahí, ¿no? Pero donde yo sentí ya más que me sacaron un poquito

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de esa anécdota fue cuando Dino se robó un pan. Entonces ese video se hizo así como de que... Yo ya hacía redes, o sea, ya estaba más en redes y todo. No, pues sí, fue la del engaño y la del Dino, yo siento, que on social media and everything. No, it was the one about the scam and the one about Dino. I'm sorry. A lot of new people came too. But they are videos that I will remember with the heart. But, for example, I spoke more...

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More like a bitch. You were more shy and I was more... What's wrong with you, Dino? I mean, I don't know put a bunch of pictures here. And then they're going to start putting pictures there. I'm going to put them there and they're going to let me go. With my pants here. No, with my shorts. That was, just look, that things happen for a reason.

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Just look, to the top where we got. Of course, where we are getting. Because I feel like we can do more.

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More, more, more.

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We are the internet ayahuasca. Remember, we are the answer. Of course. And when did you feel that you were an influencer?

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Influencer?

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Influencer, you said.

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I'm an influencer, I work as an influencer. For example, influencer is a term that is not famous, because you can not be that famous, but you can be an influencer. Because there are micro-influencers and everything. An influencer is a person who influences. I don't know. Specifically, a year before the hallucinations, where I said, I'm already feeling that it's a stable salary.

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I felt that I could already trust the money, you know? Because in the end, money is a tool that gives you stability. So obviously, I couldn't say, it's a job if it didn't give me a little stability. So I said, look, month by month I'm starting to see that it's a salary. It's not that one month, no, one month, yes, two, no, it was fine. And I think the first time I felt like, no way, dude,

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was when I did a campaign with Knicks, Knicks is my boss, you know I love them. It was that time that they told me, hey, you're being invited to be part of the squad. And I was like, oh, man.

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Me?

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And I was like, how? Because being part of the squad is like, well, part of their team, you know? That was the first time I said, I'm an influencer. And it didn't even have to do with the financial side or anything. a relationship. For me, that was very... I'm an influencer, dude. And I was like...

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I'm an influencer. I'm the real influencer. So I think it had to do with the stability that I started to see economically as a job. And when brands that I idealized a lot,

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like for example, NYX, they turned to me when I said, Oh, dude, I think so. You know? I for the challenge. Uh-huh. Notice that right now you mentioned that being an influencer is influencing people, right? And I start by creating a community of pure deceived, hurt, disdained women.

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So we were like too, I mean, when pain unites, forget it, we literally become an army of people who understand each other. It's like when you go to Alcoholics Anonymous, there's rehabilitation because there's conversation, you know? So in this community that I started to find, it was like I also healed. But I started to realize that my voice affected people. I was influencing people in a way, like when I did the live shows, when we had the groups,

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messages, whatever you want. But I started to realize that they gave me advice, they had a box and gave advice about love, how to leave the spot, all that kind of stuff. Then I started to realize and I said, wow, they are listening to me,

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they really care about my opinion because they see me, because it's Tecotorro. So I started creating this community where we had each other because they also helped me, obviously. And we left together from that process. And I remember that a brand approached me, I'm not going to say their name, but it was cool. And then with a really cool offer. And the idiot from that agency told me,

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this is what we have for you because you're not that famous yet. That's what he told me. And I was like, sorry, sorry. And I was like, this is what we have for you. If he had told me, this is the campaign, I accept it because I didn't have a range of pressure, I didn't know anything, I didn't know how to charge, I didn't have an agency, I had no idea of anything.

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But this is what we have for you, I said, wow. And I said, and against whom are you comparing me? For you, what is it to be so... Who deserves more. Who deserves more, based on what? And the guy told me, no, no, no, I mean influencers. Give me a name.

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And that, no, no, no, I don't know. I mean, who have you worked with? Don't worry, I'll find him. I went to the brand, I saw the influencers with whom they were working, I went to their numbers,

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I beat them in numbers. And he was like, And that's when I said, so you pay them more, having fewer numbers? And for the short time I have here, which is okay, I understand perfectly, that maybe there are influencers who are boomers. And it's the boom, that's it.

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Enough. And it's the boom, and there are many numbers in that period of time, then that's it. But in my case it was like a constant, it wasn't like, peak and no, no, no. We were still there in the middle. And that's when I said,

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So I went to investigate. I said, let's see how much the ads cost in the newspaper. In the newspaper they charge you 30,000 pesos and you get to 50,000 people in a sector like this. On television

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they assure you that you will see 100,000 people. I said, I'm assuring you that in 45 seconds, in my story, you'll see 300,000 people. And that I'll give him the numbers. But don't worry, I can't work with you.

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I'll wait until they give him my numbers and statistics. And later, another person called me. They said, hey, we want to make you this offer. And I said, I'm not an idiot. So when they paid me for what I asked for, I said, sure, I'm an influencer.

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Sure. I don't know if I can explain this, for example, I didn't feel like an influencer before I went to work. Like, I said, we're friends. Sure. If you know why I related so much the influencing to work, but before it was a job, I said that they are my friends and I talk to them and I tell them what I'm going now and then they call me. I say, Cass, I already asked for a job. Cass, I broke up with my boyfriend.

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All these things. But I feel like we can combine in that. It's called combining, right? Compaginate in that when you start to see money, you say, ah, so I'm an influencer. Because if you're willing to give me something,

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it's because I'm an influencer, because if you're willing to give me something, it's because I'm an influencer. Exactly. I saw it that way. I also thought that I was creating a great community and we were going to conquer the world. And in the end, they help me feel good because I really like retro, etc. And in the end, on my topic, there were a lot of people who were far from me and criticized me for exposing my life on social media.

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And the typical thing is, Many people left me and criticized me for exposing my life on social media.

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And the typical thing is, what do you mean you're an influencer? Who do you think you are? All these comments that I felt many times that I couldn't talk about this outside with physical people. And that only the internet world was the one that approved me this bullshit I'm doing on the internet.

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If I danced, hey! Because my close acquaintances were stupid. It's very pin the head of the student internet. So this is a violator a por que mis conocidos cercanos Pobre pendeja, it's very rare. We say is yeah, come on. Quentin seguridad He had a attention as he bonita con las personas que no conozco que les gusta verme Pero con mis conocidos metas and a ridiculous a cream fluenza entonces I was insecure because I thought, you think you're an influencer? I was like, no, not at all. I don't make videos to have fun.

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I even felt weird being judged out here. But you enter a mini world where everything is blocked, we're just chatting. It was really fun. And when a brand comes and values

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that community you have, that closeness with people, it says, hey, we see the impact you have and everything, what's up? And that's when it starts, it didn't happen to you that no, I have to investigate the brand, I have to see that it really is fine, I'm going to try the product, I'm going to, I don't know, imagine that I put this on and it burns my skin,

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no mames wey, we are pigs of Indians, with a lot of products, and that I'm going to try it, to see what's up, red and stained eyes. I said, go away. So obviously, no, I already had a well-paid campaign and everything, but there is also that part that we hardly told you,

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where we try products, wey, that we don't even know what the hell is, I'm going to open it. Let's see what happens. You know, I feel like...

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You can...

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I'm going to say this. I think we are privileged to choose brands. Oh, yes. You know? I feel like... I don't know.

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That's cool because you end up choosing the one you feel more connected to, the one you've used, the one you understand the ingredients of the product. I don't know. Food, whatever. con la que ya has usado, con la que entiendes los ingredientes que tiene el producto, no sé, de comida, lo que sea, ¿no? Pero también siento que en este trabajo a veces es un poco, de ciertas personas, un poco abusivo hacia la gente que hace contenido. ¿Por qué? Porque como hay un intercambio de dinero, es muy fácil para uno como influencer decir pues es que sí sabes o sea Y cuando no tienes tanta opción también de elegir las marcas es muy fácil que digas ah bueno si no pasa nada

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sabes pero creo que eso es de lo que no se habla de la influencer sin que a veces si tienes que tomar también muy en Cuenta la responsabilidad de lo que vas a comentar Si un poco no cien por ciento y más porque creo que desde nuestro privilegio 100%. And more because I think that, from our privilege, I felt very confident when, that's why you study and work, I felt very confident

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about wanting to venture into this world because I knew that if it didn't work, I have my career made, you know? I mean, I go and I pick up a stone again, I knock on doors to ask for work as human resources. You have, you go back to therapy.

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I mean, it's. I had the confidence that if this didn't work, I would go back to my life, nothing would happen. But I had the experience. And it was the same with the brands. In the end, it's the fact that you have a knowledge and some skills that you know are worth it. That you know that tomorrow...

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I felt safe that this brand is really good, and maybe any other influence, yes, because I only live from this, but in my head it was like, yes, let's try it, but I'm not going to sell myself for brands because I know that if I don't give my life, and if I can't make a living from this,

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I'll go back to human resources. I've always been very clear about that. There are people who do this on social media and it's their only resource. It's the only option they have to live. And that's when you hear the word super ugly. Because we've also had a lot of good brands come to you. Let's suppose, pure good brands with whom you want to work, no way.

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I say yes to everything, even for the experience and the bond with the brand. But that's when we prostitute ourselves, obviously with brands and then they are phoning us. Exactly. But for example, for you, how did the experience of meeting other influencers start? Or other content creators? Bad! No, it wasn't bad, honestly. You know what was? It was weird. The first people I got to know as a content creator were Andres, Irma, and others.

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It was incredible. I mean, I got along with them, but they're beautiful. We didn't even know each other as influencers. We met more as friends. And that made things flow better. But it's very different to meet people like that,

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and especially them, who are very nice. For example, at an event. I think things would have been great if this happened. But it's very different to be in an environment like this, and especially them, who are very comfortable and all that. Ah, for example, at an event. When I started to see that there were influencers who felt like shit for God, I said, wow! I mean, they really think they're super famous,

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to the point that I said, how ridiculous, it's like you have a manager. I mean, what kind of manager? Don't be a dick, fucking ridiculous. So my experience was like, this asshole, what kind of manager? We make videos on the internet, asshole. Of course, I saw it in my small way of making networks and videos and everything.

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But they, in the end, because of their agendas and their visibility, because this is very ephemeral, one day they are one, another day another. And I started to see a lot of prepotency, a lot of looking over the shoulder. And above all, I realized that they treat you according to the number you represent, you know?

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According to the number you have, it's how they're going to treat you, and according to how they know you. Según el número que representas, ¿sabes? Según el número que tengas es como te van a tratar y según te conozcan. No sé cómo explicarte, como qué tan viral eres ahorita, te trato, qué tantos números tienes, te trato, así. Porque ya cuando, ¿ves la diferencia cuando tienes número? De que, hola.

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Claro. Y digo, tampoco digo que esté mal porque es normal, wey. I mean, I'm not saying you're bad, because you didn't like me before. Why would you want to treat me with decency? But why would you want to have a conversation with me if you don't even know who I am? I understand that perfectly. But when you meet people who follow you, we're in the same boat, we're on the same level, so to speak, as influencers, what would the assholes do?

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What would they do? Take pictures here. And with a stupid behavior, I did lose a lot of people.

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And how was it for you?

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Well, for me, you know, yesterday I went to an event, and I think I had like a year and a half that I didn't go to an event alone, you know? And I ended up going alone because it was one of those events where there is a specific place for you. I mean, there are no more ones and more like that. Dude, it kind of hit me and the reality of saying, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, I ended up with Miley, or Manu, or you, you know? We ended up going together, or Arturo, blah blah. Yesterday gave me that reality hit again,

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of saying that, dude, I'm really a piola on social media to be talking in my kitchen and shit, and you take me out to the world again, and I'm a cast, you know? I was at dinner like, the food was so good, right?

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I was like,

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what the fuck?

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And I did talk to the two people who sat next to me, and I met them and talked. But I forgot what that effort was. Since you got there alone. What's up?

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Oh, I hated it. And that reminds me a lot when I started in social media because in social media I was also the same, I mean, like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. But when I started going to events,

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it was like, what the fuck, man.

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It's hard, right? Yes, I pretended to get WhatsApp, you know? That, that, that. I was kind of shy to remember me before because I was still the same person. Of course.

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You know?

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With more budget. You're your manager. No, well, in the end they accompany me and stuff, right? But... From the events, you know what I realized? That, I mean, there are certain people that I had a lot of excitement to meet.

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And I don't doubt, I mean, I say this completely out of humility, I don't doubt, I say this completely out of humility, I don't doubt that I have disappointed people. You know? I don't doubt it because I tell them, I'm this person who talks and blah blah blah because I'm alone.

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But in person, it's very difficult for me to talk. So I know I have disappointed people like, what dude, the one from social media? Can you explain to me who she is? So, I told them, it happens, but I did have certain illusions with certain people, that when I met them, I was like, wait, why are you so bad? Or why are you so bad? Or why do you pretend that?

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And it broke my heart a little bit, because if I'm honest, I feel like this episode is going to be very... dense, weird. Dense, I mean, people who really want to know about it will be interested. But, if I'm honest, I remember that before the hallucinations, which wasn't this boom yet, I had already started to investigate

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in terms of how detrimental it was for the mind to have so much exposure. And that wasn't theinations yet. Because I was like, I don't think it's so good to see so many good comments from your person. Because obviously we are used to Lupita saying, Oh, your sweater is so pretty! And to Maylin saying, Good morning! But I said, I don't think it's so normal for thousands of people to say that to you.

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But I still didn't feel it that much because I was like, most of them are positive things, it's fine. What started to become very chaotic in my head was when I started to hear criticism. Because I said, if it's not normal to hear so many good things, it's not normal to hear that you're trash.

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So, I feel that for my social media, it's like this, I feel like that's how it is for me. Here it's great, and here it's like... Everyone loves me, right? And here it's like I'm trash, I'm shit, I'm useless. But everything comes together. I have a good time. But I do think it's a very good job, very creative, very... What will it be? Positive? Also an easy job. I mean, I'll never compare it to positive job, also an easy job.

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I mean, I'm never going to compare it to the job I did in government. There's no way. I mean, there's no way. It's a very easy job. What I think is complicated is the emotional part. Not the work hand, not the time, not anything. The complicated is what you have here in your head. I feel.

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And if one day they grab you in a curve, you get pissed off. Right? But you can have very... Because in the end you are very exposed. Your resource, your raw material, your work, you are yourself. You work with your body, with your mind, with your creativity.

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If something is wrong, you lose money, you add criticism. I mean, we don't have the right to lose weight or gain weight because we are questioned. Not that if you look sadder or more serious or the look, because we are questioned.

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I mean, it kind of demands you to keep a very flat profile

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if you want to take the party in peace with your brain. because we're questioned. It kind of demands you to keep a very flat profile

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if you want to have the party in peace with your brain. Because the more you lose weight, there will be people who will question you. Why did you make that change? What's going on? This, that, the other. You know?

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Because, for example, how would you compare the change from Lupita Villalobos to Lupita Villalobos to Lucine? I think I've become more private of my... Vita Villalobos Alucin. I was like, my closet, look at what I got, it's flooding. I was talking about everything openly, showing everything, and now not. I mean, I take care of my space a lot. I take care of... Before, for example, I recorded myself on the street.

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I mean, like... Now I make sure that you don't see a sign behind me, that you don't see the street where I am. Because of experiences I've had, I don't think it's because of hallucinations, but because of experiences. I'm more... I'm distracted, but I'm more attentive to that. And because of taking care of many things, I've had to limit my content, which was what made me happy.

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Showing you my life was what I loved. I'm still showing it to you, but not like before. Before, I would tell you 30 stories a day. Like, look at what I'm writing. I don't but not like before. I used to make 30 stories a day. Look at what I'm writing, I don't know what to write. I'm going to put it here. Life, for example.

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I used to love doing life, as you have no idea. I loved it like crazy. I panicked, but as you have no idea, because I've realized that now anything I say is dimensioned. You know? I don't know if I say something in my joke that they take the clip and take it out of context and it's a problem, so I prefer to save the problem and no more live.

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So, yes, I have changed a lot in that part, but I have added a lot of security. I feel I have put a little more of my YouTube to the long content, I realized that it is what I like, the content of the video. I have changed a lot in that part, but I've added a lot of security. I feel I've put a little more of my YouTube to the long content. I realized that's what I like, the long content 100%. So, I've explored other things that I love and that have given me illusions,

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but I've had to feed a little of my private life. Now, what I commercialize, it's more Lupita Villalobos, from here to what you see, what used to be very interesting was my world behind me. From my family, my partner, my dogs, everything. Now I try to protect them as much as possible to be the one with the most fights. Look, they were already fucking my little toy.

55:35

Red Flag that guy who doesn't take the old woman off. So, and you, how? I feel like I've lost a little more fear of the internet because if you go to my TikTok from before, it was me I told you everything, I told you that if I had fought with the neighbor that if I was going to pay taxes I mean, I had a lot of the joke that every end of the month I was going to pay taxes

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well, in the middle of the month, I said that I was going to steal something from the street because I had paid like, my fandom, my community, I always had them up to date. So up to date that they knew when I would pay my taxes, you know? And nowadays, I don't do that anymore. I lost the fear of the internet, in terms of, I can tell you that I got drunk, I can tell you that I had 70 boyfriends, because I never said that, dude.

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I can tell you that I had 70 boyfriends, because I never said that. I can tell you that I fought with my dad, seriously. That you make mistakes, that you screw up. All that, you know? And that I cry, and whatever you want. But I did get scared of... Well, yes, but if they judge me for what I'm doing, but if they judge me for today.

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For example, something I can say about hallucinations, I think a lot about what I do, it affects Lupita. So I have to be very careful about who I am as a cast. Because I can't get Lupita in trouble. Because I don't want to get my friends in trouble. Like all this that happens, I didn't even live it before. It was like, I'm going to tell you that I fought with my dad.

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And it doesn't matter. But right now, yes. But what I will always be grateful for, like this point where we are, is that I lost that fear of being human, you know? So I can tell you that I also had all these experiences,

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that I did have surgery, you know? And I feel that's really cool. I mean, because we are human. It's your story. Besides, it's your story. It's our story. And in the movies, I feel like we have... We have...

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How can I say?

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We have venerated our life story. We have talked about it so much here, that it's been recorded here forever. All the anecdotes. When we are old, let's see what we did when we were addicted to caress.

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And this and that. That's super nice. And the fact that you're leaving a story on the internet is really cool. But what you're saying, that what we do already affects the other. I mean, no way. In fact, we say that if I wanted to enter a reality show, I would already think about it. Because I don't have to think about myself anymore, I have to think about my team.

58:01

Because anything that I screw up is a disaster. So, yes, I think new fears were born, but also new cool things were born, new passions, we connect with many cool things, and then you switch. And for example, when did you say, I'm famous? I'm famous? I'm famous! When I was born, when I went to the bathroom to practice,

58:29

I said, I'm famous. But people still don't know who I am. When did I say, I mean, it was a shock? Yes. I remember perfectly the first time I took a picture with someone.

58:38

I was with my friend Viviana and we were in a store in Macal, in the middle of I think buying Christmas gifts Viviana, I'm not going to transform the number into characters. Yes, but we are talking about that year it happened to me three times. I mean, nothing. I feel that here I felt more known before the hallucinations. Like we were going to eat and if they greeted me and all this stuff.

59:16

But with the hallucinations I understood what it was. The tension. The tension. You know? Because before it was like, hello, what's up? There's a photo and blah blah. And now it's still the same, but it's more quantity. So you say,

59:28

Oh, when I get to a place, there are people who see me. And before it was, I would bump into you on the street or whatever you want. You know? I think it was with hallucinations, dude. I mean, I did feel like,

59:38

Oh, fuck. I don't know why in my ignorant head, for me, my community of cask, of cheese, I feel like there are 10 people, I'm just talking to them, it doesn't matter. And when the hallucinations started, I felt more like, wow, it's a lot of people, I don't know how to explain it. Yes, I think we both felt the same

1:00:03

when we saw a pimp first time in Griz.

1:00:06

Yeah.

1:00:07

We saw them physically. What was it like? Like, what the hell? Like 5,000 people came to a square to see these beautiful faces? These spectacular bodies? That's when I was like, wow, what the hell? But then we came back to the podcast and I don't know if it happened to you,

1:00:24

but you were like, oh no, it didn't happen. Yeah, it's a joke. We were always making fun of each other, like, well, maybe it's because they were around here, or something like that. Always, always. Like, well, maybe it's because I'm starting.

1:00:34

Well, when we did South Downtown at the National Auditorium in two hours. eh... You're always taking away from her, it was almost 3 Yes, no, well... And all in 15 minutes? Dude, but the line was very long, wait If the system would have reacted normally, 10 minutes, something like that But well, when we did sold out, I still... I made cheese because we got in line I was in the armchair and I remember

1:00:59

Dude, but I think it's because... Because... something like that. I think it was because it was quincena, dude. Yeah, something like that. But maybe it was a zen, right?

1:01:12

No way! No, no, no, it's quincena and the bonuses came in, I'm sorry. The bonuses came in. The money is coming. They want to spend it. So we always find a way to justify it. Like, maybe it's because people have nothing to do.

1:01:26

People have nothing to do.

1:01:27

So, that's how it was. That's when I was like, no, dude, stop. I mean, stop. I was like, no, man. I swear, I told my dad that we filled the National Auditorium in hours. And I think we're doing something good.

1:01:41

Because I said, 10,000 people want to go see us. In one place. Well, 20,000 already, right? But it was like, I said, what? Yes, it's very crazy.

1:01:51

Very crazy.

1:01:52

Even though you see the millions of views. Oh, millions. I thought it was millions of views. Even though you see that and you say, come on, comrade. Claro, porque al final siento que es muy impactante. Yo me acuerdo del primer meet and greet que hicimos que fue en Guadalajara. Estábamos en un hotel, ¿te acuerdas? Que llegamos a abrir los regalos y así. Y yo me quedé viendo así hacia la ventana y le dije,

1:02:11

güey, si ahorita se nos pararan 5 mil personas en frente del hotel, ¿hasta dónde llegarían a la calle, güey? Like my brain couldn't. So I was looking at spaces and saying, how many people fit in here for me to understand what 5,000 people are? So I feel like that. We already felt a change when it was this amount. Don't you feel like, what?

1:02:33

Yes.

1:02:34

And for example, something you would like to... Obviously, removing the hate, that can't be answered. But something you would like to remove from this moment that we're living. I mean, from being, from dedicating yourself to social media, from your job, from...

1:02:50

Something you would say, you have to choose one thing, you can't say, nothing, I love everything! Being so far away from my home. I mean, I'm very much from my spaces, I'm very much from my routine,

1:03:03

I'm very much into my spaces, my routines, these little things. And in the end, I don't care. Every time I say, like, I'm very tired, I say, yes, but last year I would have wanted to be tired. I would have said, I want more things to do. So I always try to be very grateful and say yes,

1:03:18

but I wanted to feel tired, I wanted to have work, I wanted all these things. But what does cost me a lot of work is like that. I mean, being away from my house or maybe like losing myself in special moments around me. Because I say, well, I can go. You know? I think that could change a little.

1:03:39

You? And you? Nothing.

1:03:42

I feel like my life is perfect. No, I think what could change, so you say, fuck, well, it can't change because it's a normal cycle. I was going to say, when, when, I mean, I would like to remove this bad that, I know I'm not the only one who has me, but it's not okay, what do you mean? I don't know, I don't know, I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm watching, let me see. But I was mortified, I was like,

1:04:08

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what, I don't know what. I don't know if it's okay. And Juan told me, but it's not okay, what are you referring to? No, I don't know, I don't know, I'm watching, I'm watching. I'm watching, let me see. But I was mortified

1:04:30

because if it wasn't going well at 24 hours that we were barely, I don't know anyone. I was left alone. What the fuck, listen, I was left alone.

1:04:46

I couldn't answer.

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And why am I mortified? And then I realized that I was comparing myself to myself. I'm talking about hallucinations. I was comparing myself to ourselves. I was already watching and comparing myself to videos and creating a fucking dissatisfaction.

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1:05:03

Three weeks ago we got 200,000 views. What the fuck, you know? So I said, this is a disease. I mean, I said before you would see videos with influencers like that, similar to your rank, whatever you want. And that's like, ok, I stopped, I did the activity of stopping comparing like that,

1:05:23

but now it's with yourself. So I would like to get out of. But now I'm with myself. I would like to get rid of that. But I think that everything happens for a reason. If I didn't compare myself, I wouldn't have this hunger and this energy to feel new and to create. But that makes you frustrated and not enjoy it. I don't know how to explain it.

1:05:41

Of course.

1:05:42

Has it happened to you? About the comparison? I feel, you know when I let it go? Obviously I see changes because, no, I'm not a liar. I see changes when an episode is doing very well.

1:05:54

I say, oh, that's good. But you know when I tried to let it go? When, with the funeral. Oh, that's bad. Yes, because it affected me a lot. of No, no, no. Este, cuando estaba así, dije yo de que, wey, me estoy pasando de lanza porque me estoy volviendo mi propia enemiga, wey. O sea, obviamente me afectó todo lo que me estaban

1:06:28

diciendo, no mames, hasta la fecha no lo supe. No, no, no. Este, pero me afectó mucho lo que yo me empecé a decir a mí misma, de que ves pende mucho tiempo que yo no me hablaba así de mal, que no me ofendía, que no me comparaba conmigo misma, porque lo recordé mucho a la escuela, güey.

1:06:51

O sea, como que en la escuela, o sea, yo les digo, mi mejor droga fue la validación académica que viví, But at the same time, it was very detrimental for me. Because all the time I was like, more and more and more and more. So I was like, dude, why? If I had already managed to speak well, I'm coming back to speak badly. And that's when I said, I have to stop.

1:07:13

I have to stop and I have to stop focusing on whether it's good or bad. And I tell them, I do see when we achieve, you know? But I try to get rid of when something is not so good, to what are our parameters, because I say, I'm going to start talking badly. And I honestly feel that I don't deserve to be treated that way.

1:07:33

You know?

1:07:33

100%. The good thing is that I forget very quickly. That I get frustrated for a while, like, fuck, yes, it's true. Is that vanilla ice cream? I don't get into things, but it's the little moment I have

1:07:47

where I go like, zah!

1:07:48

You know? That hiccup. And you said that academic validation was your best drug. Do you think that the numbers in social media are an addictive asset? Yes, it can be addictive. And I feel like I was walking to be addictive with hallucinations.

1:08:05

I mean, you know why I feel like... And I'm scratching my eye while I'm talking. I feel like I could start being very addictive because the boom was so sudden that I thought that was normal. So I said, of course, I have to receive this amount of everything. Always, always, always, always, always. That suddenly, obviously, it has to go down.

1:08:27

I mean, the other day I saw a video of a guy who said, hey, I feel that many people believe that hallucinations have ceased to have views, but they really have views, it's just community of hallucinations, not just the boom of hallucinations. I feel that when I was in that boom, that boom, that boom, it was once that we let go crying and we counted here. And I said, I have to stop doing that because I said, I'm getting addicted. I'm getting addicted to seeing numbers, I'm getting addicted to seeing comments, I'm getting addicted to more, more, more, more, more. And I feel like, in the end,

1:09:05

numbers are not the same as seeing faces. Numbers, I'm aware that they are people, but it's not the same as if two million people saw the episode of the week. I feel like my brain explodes if two million people stop suddenly.

1:09:20

But when you see numbers, I don't know why this happens to us in our head, that we say, more, you know? More! So I feel like I've gone through that process, it happened after the TicToc awards, that gave us that break, and then with the FUNA, that I'm starting to try to reach a stable point with myself, and the numbers and all this shit that I have, I feel.

1:09:41

100%. Yes, and you know what has impacted me? It's how I, because I guess I went through that too, but I didn't see it in me at the time, but how suddenly I see people who are starting to create content. And more now, because I feel like before you didn't notice this addiction by numbers. no se notaba tanto esta adicción por números, güey. O sea, es una adicción al momento, porque ya veo más personas y conocidos,

1:10:07

cercanos, lo que tú quieras, que incluso exponen cosas de su vida, de su familia, de tu hijo, de lo que tú quieras. Y porque salió tu niño en un video bailando, que tuvo 10,000 likes, se vuelve tan adictivo que vuelves otra vez a poner al niño I'm so addictive that you put the kid back on and you want more. And be careful with that, kids.

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1:10:26

Because even if it hits you, it doesn't mean that if you did a video and it was great, it doesn't mean that's your path. When you're creating content, a piece of advice I'll give you is to be very faithful to yourself because what's not sustainable here is a character. A character, a style, will never be sustainable. Many do it.

1:10:45

And if it's sustainable, but at what cost? Because it's even more complicated. That's like being very faithful to what you believe, to what you are and everything. But not because a video hit you painting ceramics, and you in your life you have painted ceramics,

1:11:00

now you are going to dedicate yourself to ceramics, you know? And there frustrated, making ceramic in a mess. So I started to see that, and I started to think, what video did I make that was weird? I never created content based on numbers. Or by saying, this is what is hitting me right now.

1:11:20

Making a delineated like this, and it's delineated every day. But I do see that there are trends, with what you want, that received a little attention for a while, and then they leave, and suddenly you see the content very marked,

1:11:34

and very forced, and very attached to that. And when they are people that I love a lot, obviously I'm not going here and I say, I feel like exposing your family member is not cool. Doing this is not cool. It's like, but I don't say anything right now.

1:11:52

You know what?

1:11:54

I feel like social media is very noble if we let them be noble. You know? I feel, for example, I really like cooking, but I think I just uploaded a video yesterday because I hadn't been home and my mom was there.

1:12:09

And my community understood that I was in a process where I wasn't at home, so I uploaded what I could. I came back to the kitchen, they loved that I was in the kitchen. I feel like your community that you build and the networks can be very noble. I tell them, yes, let's let them be noble. I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that.

1:12:26

I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I used to love making pottery, but now there are people who love cooking. So I feel like, I can tell you that the social media is like sweet and sour. Because they are very noble and I can say that in my community they saved me. 100% they saved me. Because I remember that when I was in government I had depression.

1:13:01

Because I already felt like, a! Like, very like that. But for example, today, I haven't said this, I have depression again. And I feel like crying because I say, ah! You know, it was a lot, a lot, a lot. But then when I come back,

1:13:16

I realize that nobility that people have on social media. I say, dude, it's worth it. It's worth it. It's worth it. I just think that it was the exposure again to believe that I was garbage that made me, that my brain turned upside down. I mean, honestly, it turned upside down.

1:13:29

I mean, it was like, ah!

1:13:30

But...

1:13:31

No one said you were garbage.

1:13:35

The Garner thing doesn't count. The live thing doesn't count. No, but for example, I was no longer used to people talking to me badly. If I put myself, that led me to cross the line a little. But I'm like, now again, I'm going to reconnect with my social media, you know?

1:13:56

I remember that social media was noble. And there are beautiful people, and there are people who understand us, who listen to us, who comment. In fact, something that I do value a lot is the real connection that through the internet. The internet does transfer, you know? The sudden, as you said, knowing the life of someone. This gossip is super noble because obviously, Chamaco, being more exposed, we fall for more people.

1:14:26

I mean, I really... When I read things about my personality, that I can't stand the way I talk, that I can't stand it, it's horrible, but in the end I turn around and say, I'm very good at not falling for things, and I try to stick to the good stuff,

1:14:44

but then I remember and I say, of course, I mean, I don't like them. And for me it's very rare that I come from a life of, I was the popular one, the one that I liked, the one that I'm with the other, and suddenly, no. You know? And they put it in writing, with everything and everything.

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1:14:59

I love the idea of thinking that it's a fake story. It's a fake story, it's a fake story. But then I say no, because there are many things that have helped me, that have told me the truth. And Wallway, he wouldn't change the world for anything, what we're living. I love what I do, I mean, being able to work with creativity,

1:15:15

social media. I really think that many people are going to see this and that, stupid complaints. No son quejas, chamaco, son situaciones por las que vivimos porque realmente no creo que nos hayamos quejado. No, si del hate, si me voy a quejar toda la vida. Si, porque lastimas, chamaco, si tenemos nuestro corazoncito. No dejamos de ser humanas, ¿sabes?

1:15:33

Y las personas que lleguen a decir, pues tú lo pediste, eres pública, te aguantas. No tengo por qué aguantar. ¿Cómo se dice? ¿Escrutinio público? Sí. Se dice, ¿no? ¿Escrutinio? Sí estamos más expuestas a eso porque pienso yo que... Esto que voy a decir, tómenlo con una ligereza, porque si el día de mañana me lo sacan, los voy a golpear.

1:15:56

Sí.

1:15:57

Sí pienso que yo vivo por la gente. Sí pienso eso, sí. O sea, ¿por qué? I think that's true. Why? Because what generates me to have opportunities is the community that we have created and that community cannot exist if you don't exist. You, that person who is watching me.

1:16:13

But I also think that you can't forget that I'm also people. So I'm not a chango, I'm not a robot, I'm nothing. So I think that while this mancuerna exists, I entertain you and you support me, it's excellent.

1:16:28

But if this relationship starts to be made where I entertain you and I owe you something and I have to give you something and you can also demand from me a level of things that I can't do, I think that's where the relationship

1:16:41

between a content creator and a community starts to get a little bit disturbed. Did I explain myself? 100%. And above all, it's like... I entertain you, and you support me, and above all, there's a mutual respect, dude. I mean, because I think that in respect there's everything, and respect is in the fact that if one day I look bad, if one day I don't like you, if you don't like my voice, if you're thinner, whatever you want, it's not cool to offend you out of nowhere, you know?

1:17:13

Comments are hard, kids, and I'm really going to worry the day I don't give a, I don't care. If I really don't care, it means that I'm not loving what I do anymore. And I'm doing it just for money, just for... because they hurt me. As much as you can say, I don't care, don't fuck with me.

1:17:34

Lupita and I, we do hurt each other. And because I have feelings and I like to be a sensitive person, I cry for everything. But I'm like, wait, there's going to be a moment when this causes me a callus that I stop caring about, that I stop caring about that someone writes to me, you know? I mean, I don't want to say that I care about it

1:17:52

and I carry it to my chest. I read them and I see them and I say, oh, what a mess, and I continue with my normal life. It's not like you, Jeyren, ruined my day. I mean, I don't know if it's like a needle that goes tiki-ow, you know? And you go on with your normal life. But, I mean, the day I have a callus, I'm going to say,

1:18:09

and then?

1:18:10

Yes, better not. That's weird, man. So, it means I don't feel good or bad anymore. That would be ugly, because at the end of the day, it means that we are not even having a connection with you guys, and that would be ugly. When you don't even care what people think. I mean, it's like, we've already lost the connection that we should have.

1:18:27

And I feel that in order to be able to do this job, because I know that there are people who say, it's not a job. No, it is a job. It is a job. It is a job.

1:18:39

I feel today that, for example, I can compare it to what people used to do on TV. A new way of working was invented, which is the creation of content. How cool. I don't know where I was going with this. But look, what a nice reflection. But how cool. You know what? I lost my plane. I hadn't talked about that subject, that I have depression right now.

1:19:02

So I freaked out. Don't go to me because you have depression.

1:19:04

No, because you're depressed.

1:19:05

No, we're all going to be more empathetic. No, they are super empathetic. I just said my brain turned a little bit, but I also tell them I wouldn't change it. I wouldn't change it because the goals and dreams that I have achieved through hallucinations and through the community and everything, there's no way, dude. I mean, I have a lot of people that I can't afford to give you. You know? It's like, don't go overboard.

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1:19:27

I mean, the one that I have in mind right now, the one that you're letting me get closer to, for example, modeling, fashion, all these things that I'm passionate about, and that I saw them from far away, like, how do I do it to be able to do something like that?

1:19:40

That's priceless to you. But then let me entertain you and I swear it's the way I can pay you, but don't treat me badly. You know?

1:19:53

It's the only thing I ask of you.

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And if you don't like seeing me,

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then pass me.

1:19:57

Yes, block me.

1:19:58

Block me, I swear, block me. It's okay, but'm gonna write these little things. That's it, like, let's do this exchange and let's have this beautiful relationship. And that's strong, because I really feel that we had never talked about hallucinations in all of this, man. Because, like,

1:20:15

all the people tell us, like, if they analyze what it is to fill auditions, and we're like, man, we're having a crazy dream. Crazy, I never saw that. I mean, I did decree it and everything, I knew it was going to happen. But a few years ago I was like, what the fuck is going on? You weren't there at night and you said, I'm going to be a national auditorium.

1:20:34

I knew, I don't know why, but I always visualized myself in front of a huge audience. Like, always, always, always, always, always, I didn't know how, where or anything. I didn't know what the auditorium was or anything. But I didn't think that making people laugh, entertaining them, could take us so far. You know?

1:20:55

And it's super nice because I think the energy that is lived when, with the Alusi Vibra, so to speak, has been something very unique and very, very special. I think we us? Of course, moms love the Alusines. We made them believe that, girls, everyone says that the Alusines are over. In the newspaper, it ends with the Alusines.

1:21:12

Funders, mothers, I mean, I think we've created all that great trust and we've been able to make a lot of money. And I think that's what

1:21:24

we've been able to do. And I think that's what Girls, everyone say that health is over. In the newspaper, it ends with health. Fundes Madre. I think we have created all that great confidence. And obviously super grateful for everything that has happened. I wouldn't change it for anything. But, if you had to... I mean, what would it be?

1:21:39

I know we all have it. I mean, why would you leave social media? If it's what we love the most in life. But why would you leave social media? What... What could it be?

1:21:56

Not even money, because I did it before without money. I feel like I would do it if I couldn't control my mental health.

1:22:03

You know? And I... No, it's not the case right now. I promise you, I would if I couldn't control my mental health. You know? And I...

1:22:05

I'm not talking about right now, I promise. I would have told you. But I feel like if I said my life is at risk because my head is very out of control, I would say no. Because I don't think my life is worth it. Not because of social media.

1:22:23

I can't compare my life to anything else. Not with money, not with social media, not with fame, not with anything at all. So I feel that if I get to that point where I say, something is going to happen to me, I would stop.

1:22:37

I think that's also a part, but above all, I also feel that if it doesn't make me happy. I mean, if I get bored, because I'm the kind of person that doesn't like to do things too much, and there comes a moment where I have to record a story, I have to go to an event, I have to record a video, when you start doing things that can happen, you don't think that you have to do this.

1:23:04

Yes, every day Lupita wakes up very happy. Love! No, when it's a constant. I don't know. What do you think happened to Yuya, for example? Do you think he got tired of dancing? I don't know. I don't know.

1:23:05

I don't know.

1:23:06

I don't know.

1:23:07

I don't know. What do you think happened to Yuya, for example? Do you think she got tired of so much focus that she said, Enough, I want my life. And I say,

1:23:35

Yuya, please answer us. Come on, please. Yuya, come and tell us. I feel like maybe she said, because many times, Duy, you touch the exposure to such a degree that you say, this is not for me. I mean, this is not for me, I don't identify with this, this is not making me happy.

1:23:51

I want to go back a little bit, you know? Well, I'm going to talk about ignorance because I don't know,

1:23:54

you know?

1:23:55

But I also feel that Yuya went and is the OG. I mean, no manches, a ella le tocó el internet, no digo sola, pero en su rubro era Yuya, ¿sabes? O sea, era como, no mames, Yuya. Que siento yo que también a lo mejor ella tenía metas muy claras, wey. Y a lo mejor llegó un punto en donde dijo ella,

1:24:12

pienso yo, como, ya es momento de yo tener un hijo, mi familia, bla, bla, bla. Y a lo mejor ella tenía muy claro And she really got the job done, and she still does. I saw her with Ipsy a while ago. I feel like Yuya is reborn as the Phoenix, and we're all like...

1:24:28

You know?

1:24:29

Because I feel like she doesn't stop working. She has her makeup brand and everything. I'm not saying she doesn't work anymore. But I feel like maybe she was very determined that she wasn't going to mix certain things. Because if you realize, she's very respectful with her personal life. Mega. I mean, that's what I find impressive. And I feel like I'm already hidden, and suddenly I'm like,

1:24:46

Hello!

1:24:47

And everyone's like, ahhh!

1:24:48

You know?

1:24:49

But I think it's also a very smart way of taking care of yourself. I mean, taking care of yourself and being faithful to who you are. Because a lot of times when you're in this mess, you look around and you see us maybe complaining about this situation, right? But around you they say, No, no, but this is the best thing that's happening to you.

1:25:08

What's wrong with you? And many times the feeling of, But it doesn't make me happy, dude. I know many people would like to have it, but it's also worth saying, But at this moment this is not for me.

1:25:18

And it's okay, dude. It's okay to take a break and take a break. I'm not saying it's going to happen, or who knows? We'll be fine here. But I think it's important, and in your job, just like you're in a job that I was about to quit, I want to change jobs.

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1:25:34

It's not that I want to stop working, it's that you want to get out of there because being there doesn't make you happy. And just like in life, Godin, it happens in this environment too. As much as everyone around you says that you're stupid,

1:25:48

you're going to leave all this to do what? Nothing. I saved up. I saved up and I want to be in my little house. I mean, like, as long as I'm sick, crazy, I'm not going to leave, but I think I would leave the networks the day they don't'm not happy anymore. And I at 98 years old, oh the bitch! I'm always there. But yes, I think that's what could happen.

1:26:08

I feel like you should know that. If one day I go away, it's not because I hate them, it's because my brain is already broken.

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I warned.

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I'm going to come to check that everything is fine. And I tell them, it's fine. And I say, guys! And you were like, that's what makes me happy. Yes, I'm doing what makes me happy and you're like...

1:26:29

What a crazy episode.

1:26:30

Yes, I feel... It's good to open our hearts from time to time. Of course. The truth. Yes, next time we can talk about our whores again. Of course, of course, of course.

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They love when we talk about what men like and all that. But I think it's also nice to reconnect in this way because not all the time we're going to be like... Not all the time we're going to be like...

1:26:51

Out of control!

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I mean, no way, dude.

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A little bit, a little bit of connection and landing us too. Because sometimes we even feel like as friends, you know? Sitting here like, dude... What happened? What's up? What's up? This mention is sponsored by Airbnb Ok kids, we've been asked several times why we always book in Airbnb

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whatever you want and send It's awesome because you find what you want. In fact, on our last trip, we found a house with everything we needed, at a super affordable price. Yes, and you know what? There goes my second point. Because that's very good. But the second point is the kitchen.

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I like that you can make sure you have a very equipped kitchen. Everyone cooks to their liking, everyone does what they want. And I don't like to struggle to find a place to eat. So I feel like cooking is one of my best reasons. Yes, that's true. For me, point number three, something super important, is privacy. Because you can be gossiping, gossiping,

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doing whatever you want in your spaces, taking care of your privacy. Because the apartment, the house, is totally for you. Do you agree? Yes. Point number four, the space. Because I feel that you can take your aunt, Aunt Kessy, who snores a lot,

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and you're still going to have a good sleep because there are different rooms and everyone has their own space. So I feel that you have everything, comfort, coexistence, and at the same time, a repairing sleep.

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That's it!

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Of course! And something else that I love and that is my priority is that it's pet friendly. You know how much I love traveling with my Changos. Getting to a place where they are going to be well received and have a great time with their family. For me, it's top of the top and I love it so much that Airbnb is pet friendly. So there you have it. That's why we always end up staying at Airbnb because at the end of the day it's a balance between being together, but the comfort and the best of all, a great price. Yes, we love you so much, really.

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1:28:47

We love you Airbnb. Now I'm going to ask you.

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Let's see.

1:28:51

If today, you won what you won, being only a psychologist, and you won what you won being a psychologist, doing social media, what would you do?

1:29:05

Did I make myself clear? No.

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What do you prefer? Being a psychologist earning this salary or doing social media earning the salary of a psychologist? Doing social media earning the salary of a psychologist.

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That's it! That's it!

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You know why? Because in the end I manage myself. Of course! I do a little business from time to time. You earn a lot. No! All the marks, you die of hunger. That's the problem, you're always on the loose. But in this case, in the one you prefer, for the rest of your life, that's it. You know what? I feel like in any job you're on the loose. I mean, it's the reality. I mean, like, for example, now that artificial intelligence is out,

1:30:00

a lot of jobs are disappearing, and when you were very sure about your work last year. So, I feel like I've normalized a lot in my head that life is sometimes complicated. Do you understand? You know what I think? That this loose network is very different because in the end you're the producer.

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You know? Yes, but as a psychologist too. You know? If I'm mentally bad, I'm not going to be like, of course. So I feel like I have it in the same line as the loose rope. That in both I'm going to have to be fine, in both, if you know what I mean. And in both I also depend on people.

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So I say, I think I prefer a creative job, because creativity heals me a lot. Which I think was what led me to have many a lot during certain stages of my life. So I prefer to have the instability in the creativity. Because even so, what am I going to be? You know? And your times, if in what lives they depend on you.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean...

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Yes, yes, yes, 100%.

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You?

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Also for two, dude. The creativity in your Godin salary. Yes, yes, yes. I earned win perfectly. You won very well! You made me look like a whore! No, it's not true. But yes, I pull. I mean, yes, 100% and half. I mean, it doesn't happen.

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Oh, half. No, give me the 20%.

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Take the money from me.

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Take the money from me.

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No, yes, the same. When your job makes you happy. You never work! That's it! I hate that phrase, dude. I hate it. I hate it. Really, you wake up and say, I never worked, I enjoyed it. I was all day.

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1:31:34

Shut up, bitch. Shut up.

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Your ultra positive psychology is killing me.

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Me too. Enough.

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Enough. Enough. Enough.

1:31:40

Well, guys, this was today's episode. I hope you liked it. If you didn't, you'll still watch it. You had to like it because you like it a lot. I'm like, psychology... Inverse psychology.

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But you did tell us you like it a lot when we open our hearts. Yes, and I feel like these kinds of episodes are for people who are deep in the light and vibe. And sometimes it's cool to connect a little deeper with you. We love you so much, kids. Leave your comments, your opinions. And remember that you have to put, oh, the famous ones. And we don't talk about the famous ones.

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Tell us if you want another episode like this. Of fame. No, I'm bored. We love you so much. de esto. De la fama. No. Me aburrió mucho. Si, los queremos mucho. Nos vemos hasta la próxima. Chavos, denle like, comenten, suscríbanse.

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Los queremos. Los queremos. Nos vemos hasta la próxima.

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