‘Starmer Has Absolutely No Legitimacy’ | ‘He’s A Lame-Duck PM' | 'Labour Is Over'

Let's start before we start dealing with the liar Tolestomani, as somebody has named him this morning.Let's talk about last Thursday.We haven't spoken personally or on the radio since then.Astonishing results for reform.1 ,454 seats, control of 14 councils.Many will now say the official opposition Labour in meltdown, losing nearly 1 ,500 seats, 38 councils.

The Conservatives are rather deluded.I mean, I'm being straight with you.They said, this is progress.I don't know what failure looks like, if looting 563 seats is a given.And the Greens, which just frightened me, and I should announce at this moment in time that this morning we've discovered he's lied about something else, Zak Polanski.He said he worked for the Ministry of Justice.

That, too, is a bit of a fib.Zia, what's Reform's response to last Thursday?Better than thought?The same as you thought?What's the response?

Yeah, look, I just want to say thank you to all of the reform supporters out there.And those of you voted for reform for helping deliver a truly historic set of results for Nigel Farage, thousands of incredible councillors.And for Reform UK, look, it was a turquoise tidal wave that swept across large parts of the country.And it is really historic, because it's never happened before that a startup insurgent party that's only been around a few years, we shouldn't forget, was able to demolish labor in their heartlands, you know, across the Red Wall.And similarly, reform demolished the Tories in some of their former heartlands, like Essex, where a large portion of the so -called Shadow Cabinet would, in fact, lose their seats based on those results, including Kemi Badenoch herself.So it really was an extraordinary set of results.

It's a clear message, a clear repudiation of this woeful Prime Minister.We already knew he was unpopular, but the sheer magnitude of those losses have obviously now placed an enormous amount of pressure on him.And in terms of the tour, it's exactly as you said.I mean, for Kemi Bernanock, it was clearly rehearsed beforehand to come out grinning and smiling.saying that, you know, this is some sort of victory for the Tories and they're on their way back.I mean, you can actually look, I tweeted out yesterday, this is just raw data.

She is the most unsuccessful leader of the opposition.in this country's history in terms of how many council seats they have lost under a leader of the opposition.Remember, opposition parties are meant to be winning seats.They're meant to be winning seats in opposition, not hemorrhaging them.There's a few people left in London.And obviously large, significant parts of London now do feel like a foreign country, unfortunately.

There's a few parts of London that still vote for them, but really they are no longer a national party.They've been demolished and irrelevant in large parts of England, demolished and irrelevant in Wales, demolished and irrelevant in Scotland.So look, reform is now the last resort.truly national party.We're going from strength to strength.To do it two years in a row shows this wasn't just some protest, some flash in the pan.

We're going to continue to build from here.And I do think we've taken a huge step forward in making Nigel Farage our Prime Minister.

I just wanted your take on something because I'm going to compliment you.You go on that bloody Question Time which I never watch at 10 o 'clock at night because I'm always in bed to get up for this but after the Thursday results they did a sort of a version, I think it might have been Friday actually to be fair at 7 .30, it might have been Thursday, of which Rob Jenrick appeared on and I was talking to him.Every time he spoke there was complete silence.The BBC's idea of a Question Time that had Piers Morgan in There was not one reform supporter.Is it frustrating as a politician to know that millions of people are voting for the ideas that you and Nigel come up with and yet so many institutions including our biased main broadcaster still refuse to even acknowledge the successes that reform have had?

Well I think it's been extraordinary looking at the reaction of the mainstream mediato reform success again.I mean, what they've essentially done, having spent years now trying to portray reform, Nigel, everyone at Reform, people who vote for Reform as racist bigots, what they've done reacting to these historic set of results where Reform won by a country mile is to basically do the same thing again.essentially accuse everyone, all of us, of being racist and really insult the millions of people who voted for reform.And look, in terms of the BBC, look, is it frustrating?Yes.

It's the game we're in.You know, it's no surprise, sadly.I mean, remember, Victoria Derbyshire, and I thought this was actually a new low for the BBC, Victoria Derbyshire, who earns, what, you know, almost a couple of hundred thousand pounds a year, much of that money paid for, by the way, by people who support reform, went on a seven -minute monologue on Newsnight a couple of days before the election.I've not seen anything like that.Seven -minute monologue, looking down the barrel of the camera, attacking Nigel, making a series of totally false and frankly defamatory claims about him.This is the state broadcaster.

And for that to happen, and again, I point out she's paid a small fortune, she's paid a king's ransom in no small part by people clearly who vote for reform.I think it's deeply, deeply insulting and I think the BBC should know better.

all sides should understand that the silent majority, and I know that you would agree with me on this, will be heard actually, and that whatever institutions, whether it's Nigel or Zak Polanski says as balanced as he possibly can or anybody else, Politics has changed, and politicians of all parties would do well to remember that.Zia, let's talk about where we're left.I mean, this extraordinary weekend, we're on the back of the debacle for Labour.You know, the vultures are circling, Rainer's done a statement, Wes Streeting's wondering when to show his hand.everybody's jumping around, this Catherine West that nobody had heard of, we were talking this morning, she could have the whip taken away so she can't stand against it, but here's what I wanted to ask you.Is this man deluded, just drunk on what the power of the role of Prime Minister gives him or what?

Because he's going to do a speech in about two hours where he says, with a party of optimism, we're going to join Europe.I'm here for another 10 years.I mean, with the greatest of respect, whatever your political persuasion, that's just sheer drivel, isn't it?

Of course it is.It is the height of delusion.But it actually reminds me one of the last things Boris Johnson did as Prime Minister was declare that he would be Prime Minister for at least another 10 years.Do you remember that?You can Google it.Hasta la vista, baby.

I'll be back.I remember.Yeah.Yeah.

Yeah.These are the chemical alley levels of delusion.And so it's something that has afflicted both the Tories and Labour now.Look, I think Keir Starmer is not a decent man who's out of his depth.I think he's an awful man, actually.I think he's got a real malevolent streak to him.

You look at the way he has behaved, the way he has talked about his political opponents, and the way he's done so many awful things to people in this country that were not in his manifesto.Do you remember when he was asked, on that committee about whether he was aware that a farmer had tragically committed suicide and that more were considering doing so as a result of the inheritance tax rate on farmers, which again was not in the manifesto.And you know, his reaction showed he didn't flinch.There's no empathy.

This sounds really really light -hearted but there's a reason I'm going to say this to you.We found out over the weekend he admitted he doesn't dream and somebody wrote to me and said of course he doesn't dream.Robots get switched off at night.That might seem flippant but there is no...I've said it for as long as I have done this show.To me, Zia, I can talk to you, I can talk to other politicians and I feel that you feel it.

right this to me in his DNA and his being in his makeup there's no there's no emotion good bad or indifferent we have good days we have bad days we get things right we get things wrong he's like that droning dreadful noise he's like a dental drill there's not I want him to get upset I want him to get angry I want him to be passionate nothing absolutely nothing and the British people have sussed that out and the result is of course that he got the job because after the chaos of the last Tories but suddenly there are alternatives but it's the it's this it's the sheer bloody mindedness Steve Baker the ex -minister I get on quite well with Tory who was was doing the papers this morning said that Becoming an MP, I'm going to get this wrong, but he basically said when you become an MP it's like, you know, initially smelling a bit of weed you feel quite good and then when you become a minister you probably, you know, progress to cocaine and when you become Prime Minister you're just addicted to whatever because the power of the whole thing is addictive.Because if he looked in the mirrors here, what would he say?I mean the whole thing is crumbling and I say whole thing, there wasn't even a plan.

Well, look, if Keir Starmer fought for the British people the way he fights for his own personal career and power, we'd be living in an incredible country.We'd be seeing Britain going from strength to strength.If he fought to secure our borders, if he fought for the British women and girls who have suffered at the hands of sex crimes by illegal migrants, then we would be living in a much safer country.If he fought for people who set their alarm clocks before they go to bed and rise early in the morning and go to work and work really darn hard.If he fought for them and making sure they got value for their taxes and felt like they were living in a better country, then Britain would be exponentially more powerful and his ratings would be through the roof if he fought for them the way he fights for his own personal career.And I think that's what people also see, and people are sick and tired of it.

The Tory party becamea party which was essentially a vehicle for as many sort of public school bluffers to become prime minister as possible in a short period of time.That's what they ended up becoming.The Labour Party has, you know, a man who came to power with a big majority.But as you pointed out, only one in five people eligible to vote for Labour actually voted for it.People shouldn't forget Jeremy Corbyn won more votes, considerably more votes than Keir Starmer's Labour Party did.

Both time, Jeremy Corbyn and ran in a general election.The only reason Stammer is the prime minister is because the Tories spent 14 years betraying their own voters and people were sick of it and turfed them out.And now we've got the situation where there's absolutely no legitimacy.And leaving all, you know, flippancy and things aside, this is a really important point.We are now in a situation where we have a lame duck prime minister devoid of any real power.He's not gonna be able to get anything done which he would actually want to get done.

And similarly, anyone who replaces him as awful as that cast of characters are.I mean, we're talking here about maybe Prime Minister or Chancellor Naded Miliband, for example, so hold on to your hats or Angela Rayner.Whoever that person is will also have absolutely no legitimacy.I mean, we learned this from the Tories.And this is why You know, as frustrating as it is as a patriotic British person to say this, I think we do need another general election because whoever wins, whoever is going to lead this country needs a mandate from the British people to do it.The Tories taught us you can change prime ministers every single week.

If you don't go to the country and get a mandate, that person, he or she will never be able to discharge the duties of the prime minister properly.And this country is going to continue, I'm afraid, to continue on this really really negative trajectory unless we do that.

Mate it's always great to have you on, we're so grateful for your time and how busy you are.Good to get a reform view of just those elections last week and us going forward as a country.