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Doesn't it hurt you that you're in a bag with the word Pato?

I've worked on it a bit, I'll say it again.

And you won't get out of it.

You dedicated the program to Dorota Dodzie-Rabczewska, taking out disgusting information from her alleged friend. Didn't you have a bad feeling that you were entering someone's private war and privately throwing yourself a whine? And as far as I know, it's a well-known fact and from the court's verdict, which is already flying somewhere,

it's obviously blowing, I don't know. It's fiction.

And I said, no, I'm letting it go and I see the wheel on the other side, because I really asked the question, how to refute Emil's argument? If he's lying, addict like everyone else. Is the public debate about whether Doda had an abortion or not not so internally, in a masculine way, humiliating for you? Krzysztof Stanowski made a video about you, a loud one.

You didn't take off, I think, your gloves. There was shooting at me from every possible angle. For normal people, he was in prison. For that community, he was selling his friends, he even hurt his mother and so on. On many levels, I am discredited so that no one listens to me, because this lunatic walks around and shows this document.

What emotions do you have towards Mr. Krzysztof? Is it anger or is it understanding his intentions?

There was a lot of lies in this film, there was manipulation, but I understand it too, he did it for that, you know? Wait, because when the lie argument is already falling, we will point out. Janusz answered the question, why was Wojewódzki not arrested?

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We welcome you very warmly in the voivodeship of Kędzierski. I am happy because Mr. Tomasz is with us in the studio. And I must admit that Mr. Tomasz's programs, I told him this before entering the antenna, are my guilty pleasure. I really like to watch your universe and we will explain to our listeners today the world in which you function, because, to be honest, outside the screen, this company is very strange to me. Good morning, Tomek.

Good morning, I bow, thank you for inviting me. Good morning. Maybe not my world, but the world that I comment on, because my world looks like I created it, and these characters create it, because it creates itself and clones. There is a little difference between a reporter and a reporter, but we will talk about such backstage of the workshop in a moment. In general, Piotr introduced me as Tomasz, I don't know if anyone will associate me with that. I think everyone is a regular reporter and that's...

As Piotr has declared himself a fan, so this conversation will be one-sided. I can't say that. I was wondering, Tomek... We can say Tomasz, right? Sure, of course. I was wondering what a person who announced a consumer decline in 2004 looks like. A good blouse, a nice watch, foreign shoes with a big inscription, glasses, I'm also a fan of brand ones.

What is this feeling? Is it a release from some social shame? Financial relief for you and your family? Or just a feeling of permanent detachment? I'm explaining to you, I mean, you don't have any information because this system has already been withdrawn, the court has already withdrawn it, I have at this moment well, I think the last debtor has been left because I was also negotiating a payment. This is a bit more complicated story but I will want to tell it very quickly. Well, when I

went down this road very early, I was 19 years old, I was the first to say it very quickly. Well, when I came to this path very early, I was 19 years old, I was the first to go to prison. And since then I have been totally out of system, a financial banit, and I didn't pay anything, everything came to me, I was tearing, I was drying up to the trash can,

I didn't even take it, right? The queue of believers to my door was long, of commies, etc., etc. The door was long, there were cellars and so on. And now, some time ago, I decided to get off this path and stand on the good side of power. This year, my criminal record has also been totally cleared, so it's been at least a dozen years, because that's what it is, it's said ten, but it still has to pass the trial period, something, something. So at this point I'm a totally unpunished man, so even calling me a criminal of the law at the moment, because you can't do that.

We will try to keep it that way. No, I'm kidding, but you know, people often say, you committed a crime, you are a criminal. I say, wait a minute, or we support the violation of the law, so you did it now, or we don't do it and we don't comment on it. But I'll just finish when it comes to the debt. And that was the last thing I had to take. And it was so messy, there was such chaos. Because for the past 30 years, it would be like counting to the present time,

not paying at all, not accepting, not caring what's there, how much it grows, because I just don't pay. Because there is also a way to live, I mean, I don't pay anything, because I won't pay for it anyway, right? So now, if I wanted to systematize it, I announced it, it fell, so that all debtors would report it, because that's how it is.

The court announces it publicly, debtors are believers, right? We know because we know it in the case when the regional court for the city of Warsaw announced Michał Wiśniewski's bankruptcy. The whole of Poland looked like this. So you were in a good company. Very good. I have only much less attractive hair color. But when I found out, when this list came, it all came down, they didn't report to the court.

I filed a lawsuit with the court, with the request to withdraw my bankruptcy, with the conclusion that I want to pay them all at once, because I don't want to have it for 5 or 7 years. So you made such money on the Internet that you were able to pay the debt for how many years? Well, you know, from 2019 it turns out to be 30, it turned out to be so big. Wait, because it's very important. It is very important, but it is also very a financial advisor who verified that some of them are outdated, some can be bank account, it would be shameful, I admit. And this year is the year when I close my credit card to zero, in which I pay all my debts.

I'm glad, I'm glad that I'm buying this exhibition, but I would like us to, for the sake of this conversation, because I recently heard such a tone from Tom Karolak, how I have debts, 40000 years is not money. Let's respect that most of us are listening to people, for whom 40,000 years, sorry to say it, as the oldest, for me 40,000 years is a lot of money. Kuba, that's why I said it, because you said that it's so many years long, so I said that they are not as long

as it might seem, because of the way they are collected. Tell me, I'm letting interested in social background, because we invite people who are interested in us. You are not our enemy, you are not a person we want to make a public lynch, because it is not in the spirit of this audition.

What is your home like? Who were your parents?

My parents were... I'm sorry, the time has passed. They are. Fortunately, both are alive. Typical working class from that system. WSK Świdnik, production of helicopters. Mom worked at a tool factory, dad sharpened

mills, I guess. Beautiful, romantic story, that's how they met. So, typical working class family with professional education and with eternal complexes, such that I should achieve something more, push me to education, to study, because they didn't have it, etc. Never, no one, yes, never, no one in my family was punished, was not in prison,

not this type of family. I had everything. Family probably not pathological, not burdened with some such strange things, I don't blame myself for certain things. I think I'm alone and I was my own enemy. I don't blame my family for that. I had good role models. But what's missing in the house,

that you enter such a corner like you did in your youth? Adrenaline. I think in my case it was adrenaline, because I had everything, you know? In my case it was stupidity, adrenaline and... and a bad company, a little bit. We have a mutual friend who is also from this company.

And a cook.

Yes, from my little town. You know, those were the times. I think everyone experiences this rebellion to some extent and he stops himself wearing colored hair or writing something with paint on the wall. It went further for me.

I was fascinated by this side of gangsters, those guys from the city. I went to that side and I got stuck there. We'll come back to that. I'm just curious about the social background. You know, gangster in Poland sounds caricatured as much as it is at the moment. The 90s, it sounded completely different then, Kuba. It sounded completely different then.

When a mother visits her young son in prison, what emotions are associated with such a conversation? The first time I saw my mother was when I was a 19-year-old child. I know it's funny, but I'm sticking to how I see myself from the perspective of time. I was an emotional child. We got the so-called witness transfer. I only mentioned that the first sentence, I spent a year and a half, for which I was later acquitted. I left, but then I did it.

But did you get any compensation? No, because later, of course, the prosecutor called me back and after a few years I was sentenced, so that it all counted nicely. But I didn't commit the first crime, and I say this with great emphasis, and I wouldn't have to explain it here, because I say that I committed many crimes for which I was not punished. And this is obvious. So I sort of count, it's obvious. So I'm not really counting on it. But I'm not.

So a little bit of a Polish 19-year-old, a shitty, stupid, irresponsible country, who went too far with some things. Are we going to stop here or not? No. He was in prison for a year and a half, meeting all his friends, being fascinated by them.

He came out later, he wanted to... Going back to the vision... No, because I imagine... I imagine Piotr's mother, who visits... I'm talking about a science fiction situation.

Your mother visits in prison.

It would be traumatic.

Her heart would break. That's why I want to say that we got the so-called vision through the so-called netting, that is, through a net of direct contact. When this child, i.e. me, came to see him, he took us to the guardhouse, I saw my mom, and we both cried for an hour. We didn't say anything.

I think it was good morning and that's it, then the guard took me. And after something like that, you don't want to convert, but in the final way. Yes. Of course, listen, we are now talking from the position of our age, not mentioning anyone. No, I was an idiot then. I was an idiot then. I had such a rebellion in me. You know what? I had such a feeling then that if I was innocently involved for a year and a half,

I will show them now. I will do for what I sat down now. I will give you.

And did you leave right away? You had such a desire right away? Because I wondered what motivates a young man who has his whole life ahead of you and can go to normal work, contrary to appearances, to risk so much, to the fact that after the visit of your mother, you were with her and you do the same to her.

I fully agree with you and now I understand it. Then, obviously, not necessarily. What's going on? I was fascinated. It was easy money, and you know, after leaving, it's just like that. If I went there in my deep conviction for nothing and I felt hurt by this system,

I would just bounce off this system, and I didn't look at the suffering of those close to me. I was just looking at myself, I was selfish.

I have a bold thesis. If you went out, committed this crime, and you weren't caught, would you be a gangster now? If you were caught?

No, I don't think so, because it doesn't make me feel guilty. I was doing well in the movie, but I was also doing well in the real life. I was doing well for 6 years, so it's a lot of time. The first year and a half, and then the next, and the next. You can say that I stole or I got out of the dust, but every sensible thinker knows that 6 years is not enough. And there were serious things. I am very happy that I prefer to be a loser, taking into account where I am now. I prefer to be a loser than a person who actually hurt people. So let it be.

But you are a person who hurts people in some way and is still in conflict. And I'm not even half-joking, half-serious, because don't you think it's a bit of profanity and an attack on national values, beating Waldek Kiepski in the ring? Seriously, let's take it seriously. Yes, I have a problem with that and I was wrong.

Exactly, let's talk about it.

I was wrong. Did he even fight? Or was he looking for an opportunity? Because we know the story of the phone call, that he called you, right?

Before the fight.

And what did he say?

To beat each other only on the knees. I don't think I said it unnecessarily. I'll tell you honestly, I wanted to say it by explaining it, but's going on around him. If someone asks... Let's remind the age of Waldek. 50. Two years older than me. If he's on the day of the fight, in the main event, in the Federation of Fame, whatever you say about it, the biggest federation of freak fights, the most... with POMP, where the biggest money is, where it's taken...

sick money, sick money. Exactly, 47 seconds you fought with Waldek Kiepski, who was already dead. Yes. So what is the day for 47 minus 30? 17 seconds.

What is the day?

Jadek Fabiański. No. No, I didn't count it like that.

How much was it?

It was 150,000. For me? Yes. Oh no, definitely more. Definitely several times more.

Wait, are we talking about millions?

No. You can't say that? No, no, I'm still in contact with her, it's her secret. But let it stay between 300 and... not far away. So, you can say... I'm also addressing those who once called you a loser, that in 17 seconds you earned several hundred thousand.

And in 30 seconds with Rzeźniczak, also over 200, only then I was lying down. But it's whether you stand or lie down, in this case it totally fits, you get a payment not for winning. But the butcher is not a big shot, I know him. You know what, I know him too, I met him close as you can see, but he is a sportsman, Kuba.

It was his first fight.

He is a sportsman. When he kicked me, so far I thinking... Can I take off my shirt? Yes, I will ask the question slowly. Because it's interesting for me, for us mentally, but also physically, I think, with Piotr, MMA is foreign. And there is never such money there that would tempt us. But when he comes out against you, not such a cynic as Sebastian Fabiański, but Waldek,

which, pay attention, we do not say his real name and surname. Yes, Mr. Bartosz Artur. Yes, we just call him and his curse and at the same time the biggest scum. Don't you have the impression that this guy, you just beat someone who is lost? Kuba, he is fully aware, he knew what was going on there and he also does it for money, and you have to understand that. I had a problem with that and it wasn't really pleasant for me, but when we close the cage, we just have to fight there.

And generally, when you let go of someone, you put yourself in danger. God forbid something happens, a blow will hit him and you have a nosebleed. So, until a certain point, I... Believe me, when I calmed him down before I came in, I was his mother, But what did you say to the guy who you were about to kick in the face? Ten minutes only and it will all be over. He will be fine. I was sure he would run away.

I was sure he wouldn't come out and make those money.

But I saw him dressed, he had golden chains.

But I have an important question, in my opinion. The character of Bartosz, who is associated with this Walthy to the end of his life. He has, listen, an actor's CV is 600 meters long. These are insignificant roles, but there are a lot of them. I'm just asking if you had the impression that your opponent had to do it. That he just had a problem and had to get into it.

Yes, unfortunately, yes. I don't want to go into details. I don't know them well, but there must have been some financial problem. There must have been something that pushed him to do it. Because it was a compromise on every field. At conferences, on programs, he did not give up totally, he just did not want to get involved in the role of Waldek. Also quite strange, because he was taken as a bad Waldek, not as Bartosz Żukowski, he did not take him there.

And he said goodbye to it, he said that he would not pretend, Waldek he took the money, so generally he pushed it somewhere. His rate was comparable. Comparable, smaller than mine, but comparable. So you can just take it and earn a few hundred thousand. Let's give Fabian for that.

Well.

And will he come back?

There was a series from what I know.

There is a trilogy, there was a trilogy. Will he come back? I can't say it in the name of Fame MMA, but the Federation says that it's not. I think there was no perspective. You can train longer, you can do programs, everything, everything. He just came in like a beggar, he just came for the money. That's not what it's about. We're here to give people a show.

You used the word perspective. Because it reminds me of wrestling. But in wrestling there is a whole scenario, but here there can be a turn of action and Sebastian Fabianski can fall in the 5th second.

How does this whole process of recruiting players look like? It's very simple. Reaching. It's very simple. You know, the Federation is some kind of genius, I would not say a novel, because the Federation of All-Wights relies on someone's reach, on the reach of their sponsors. Now think logically about it. You have a product and you want to advertise it, how much money do you spend on the media for it to break through? And here you take influencers, preferably from different bans,

and in general with different observers, and you take them to Fame, you say, tell them you have a fight. The whole Internet knows about it.

Yes?

They themselves, with themselves. It's brilliant. And to use the range. And here the range is key. Of course, there is some attractiveness, because we can say that the range... Let's say that Frisbee has certainly sold himself, because he is a powerful character. You mean Karol? Yes, Karol Wiśniewski. I think that Karol will never get into this. I know, but we live in the theory. I say that Frisbee has sold himself because he is a type of a smoker, so you look at it too. So these ranges too, but somewhere with smaller ranges, which has a lot of potential on these programs of making so-called smokes.

And who would have made a bigger sensation? Marysia Jeleniewska or Julia Żugaj? The fight of which one would be? I think Julia Żugaj is more like ... I think she would be more likely. Yes? She really? You gave two examples that I think wouldn't be super-tricky, but they have huge reach. These are huge brands. Yes, that's why I say...

So Jurek Żugaj, we can say your recommendation to Fame MMA. In Sanach or Podsiadło? That's also a good combination. Podsiadło, definitely.

This mustache.

I also came out with a mustache to Waldek, so I know that with a mustache they fight better in Onslaught. Which of the three federations, right? The biggest, Cloud, right? There is no Cloud. There is no Cloud. There is Prime. What else is there? There is Duopol.

Which of these federations, because let's add to this the ones that were, had the least scruples? Because I watched the Prime conference and I'll tell you honestly, I'm shocked.

Prime had and I'm honestly shocked. Prime has it and it has it.

So it's the worst.

I don't know if it's the worst. I know it's the worst. Fame is starting to bore people with the fact that it's very stable. There are two different products. Fame is aiming for more range influencers, who, you know, haven't done certain things, haven't gone down to some level,

and Prime is just going for the open and people like it too. It will be great with wrestling. I wonder a little why we have such a problem in Poland. And if we don't host these freakfights, we won't civilize them, because they will be anyway. We just criticize them. We don't want to know them too much, we just say that they are B. But you know what? I understand it. I understand wrestling too. but wrestling has never crossed the line of such aggression towards its competitors at these conferences.

But I think that the convention has included a little bit of fun.

There is absolutely fun, there is a theater, and there is also, listen, there are no such repercussions, so to speak, YouTube later, because this Prime conference, which I am talking about, was absolutely shocking. You are talking about last one, right? the former client, Marianna Schreiber. Mr. Korczarowski. Did you see it? You didn't see it? The one who was beaten?

I don't know, because the catalog of her clients is such that I don't know which party and at what time the current one is due. I mean, they were for sure, so it's a very wide collection.

And Marianna Schreiber is a good competitor? No, because she has no character. She is also... But what I think is that she is... In building a personal brand, even though for me she is a bit like a comedy, or some kind of opera, which is both tragedy and comedy, she is very effective in building her personal brand,

because she knows what to do, the consequences, so that the media write about her. I think only what is from this brand, what's from these ranges. It's the type of ranges that you will never monetize. There will be no cooperation, nothing will come out of it. And what are you saying, these are garbage? Except for fig fights, yes, definitely. These are such sensational ranges, such, damn, tabloid. And yours are quality?

Definitely more. Really? Yes. So tell me, crazy reporter. I'm a fan of journalism, I'm a journalist since I was a student. I'm not a journalist. I taught journalism. Reporter is a mandatory nickname.

How much of you is, honestly, Tomasz Reporter, and how much of usurpator and crazy? Definitely more than the second and third than the first. I never called myself. It's a typical internet nickname. But I call myself a reference, because for me a reporter is someone who studies, writes and relates the world. He informs us about the world using many sources.

A reporter translates the world.

You also try.

I'm not in this profession. I'm a podcaster, Kuba. I give people space, I ask them and I give them space to master it themselves in my podcast. They will tell their story. I can ask questions about it. What are your competences in your opinion? My competences are that when I publish a film, several hundred thousand people can watch it and I like it. I treat it as an entertainment. It's not a piss. I don't answer any questions.

Wait, you draw conclusions from your reach the ranges of competences or attractiveness? No, I mean that I should do it. To attractiveness, definitely. Ok. Because I wonder which of your predispositions or competences worked at the moment when you announced on 15 November 1922 that Poland is in a state of war with Russia, it was, one could say, very clear and very risky, taking on the floor what the word war means in Poland. It was definitely a big mistake, I admit. I didn't announce the war, I wrote that two missiles would hit the Polish territory and I think we have...

It was about the location of the wires. Yes, the wires, those two missiles, exactly. I just remind you that the Polish government then gathered in Bebens, supposedly from from 13 to 17 and there was no communication And this media emptiness, which was, I think, a big mistake from the side of the ruling party, lack of communication Because then there are such crazy people like me with the messages, because people are craving for some message And I would just like to say, I have a fragment, I can't play it now

But in, probably in BBC,, in the big western TV, on the yellow strips were flying that it was Russian missiles. Without this information. So I wasn't the only one, I wasn't the stupidest. I shouldn't have done it. I'm still saying. I think that we knew then that it was Russian-made missiles, and we didn't know that it was Russian missiles.

Yes, it was definitely bad. And I, to a certain extent, didn't realize how factual it is, how it disturbs what I write. It was a stage of my career when I was publishing, because I was very fast. I've been on the Internet for 2-3 years. On the Internet in general. My profiles exist. You know, people on the Internet are after 12, Gimper, Nitro, it's 12, 13, 14 years.

I was a grandpa who got a toy and didn't know how to use it. Really. And I had to get fucked a few times, make such mistakes, punishable mistakes, bad things, to see that it's not a conversation... You touched the nerves of modern civilization, what information is. Tomek, journalism without responsibility is either a magic or a sabotage.

You know that.

That's why I'm not a journalist. But you do the job of processing information. No, I'm in social media and I try to talk to people. And how will you prove to me, I hope to us, that, to be honest, it was a sowing of panic in the care of one's own reach and algorithms? Absolutely not. Believe me, it was a day when I was on the border with Ukraine, because after my two trips, where I was going with help, I was giving out the money I had collected. We were collecting artifacts, I say, in quotes, various things were collected from people there, and we were giving them away. Whoever gave the most, we bought diapers for that money and sending them to Ukraine. And on that day, we were on the border, somewhere in the Voivodeship,

I think it was the end of the Lublin district, because the Lord had just issued a list, we were buying diapers in a wholesale store, and coming back, what happened? I was with Marcin, with whom we were going to Ukraine, we were really dealing with this problem. We started to talk, I took it over and...

I fried such an idiotic twit. Yes, I agree. It is very important. Poles are citizens. But I mean that... It was unnecessary. Kuba, I agree. It was the same with the shooting in Poznań, which was a much worse case. 2.2. Poznań, 2022. We know that...

This is what you will learn the most. A man killed his ex-girlfriend. You quickly made very final and quite scandalous conclusions without knowledge and analysis. I agree. The point is that, you know, I'm not a good example. I don't like such pathetic moralizing either. I'm just playing the role of someone who looks at your responsibilities.

Of course. Kuba, once again, look at the date of both entries, because it's maybe not close, but... And now look at, let's say, the last year. I'm really learning and these are the mistakes I've made. I'm still paying for it. But I wanted to hear it. I'm sitting here and you're asking me about it, which is not pleasant. And it's being carried around.

I get it all the time and rightfully, because you can't replace it under the carpet. And there were things I did wrong. I was watching it very quickly and at some point I thought that I was talking to a few friends who were watching me, because it was 50, 100 people and suddenly it was thousands. And I was still the guy who never got a job in traditional media. And you know that after two or three such actions, you would never get a place in traditional media. I wouldn't want to.

You wouldn't want to? I wouldn't want to. At this point I wouldn't want to. Abstracting from the fact that they wouldn't want to. Absolutely. absolutely. I think that at this moment, the media are traditionally losing to the internet. People are moving to the internet. I know that the media are still trying to get better, that they are serious, that they are wise, that they are cool, that they are verified. But people are being fucked up and more and more of them are going to the internet.

I think that YouTube is 100 times better because there are no champions,, no producers, no one accepts them, no one checks the material. Of course, there are many more mistakes.

You had some kind of a conflict with Edward Miszczak?

No, no, but I'm saying... You set up a moral quantifier. I don't know you, I don't criticize you. Maybe this man is a quality guarantee. Maybe yes, but... But not chaos. Maybe, but because of that, in mainstream there are stars, about whom we know nothing, but they are in them for years.

And on YouTube they are all exposed, because we look at each other's every move. And here there are huge TV contracts. If a star has a contract for 5 years for a given show, it's not... it's not a TV show that you want to make something about it, because a lot of money goes there.

On YouTube, we are exposed and we are both cheating on each other, and I just think that's better. And we know practically nothing about the big stars.

But paradoxically, because people will trust YouTube, you will feel more pressure, responsibility?

Definitely, but I feel more and more pressure, responsibility? Definitely, but I feel it more and more. You know, Kuba gave a good example. I still have a few. Super, because generally, you have to talk about it. But I got it terribly in my head and I feel it more and more with each one. I really think a lot more now before I release it to the public.

Once it was just what I thought would come to my tongue. I realize that my words were more and more important. Of course I would, but you know, people... I think that whether we want it or not, people will leave the media. Of course. In my opinion, it will never be like that.

Because, you know, it was said about cassettes, VHS, about black disc. These media, these sources of music or movies still exist. VHS? Has anyone seen it? Yes, for example, I recently watched Pulp Fiction.

Really?

Yes, on VHS. Oh, wow. Completely different experiences. It's about a certain kind of wave of images, you know. In general, some strange things are happening in my head. A brilliant movie, by the way.

I mean one simple thing, that the world on YouTube can configure itself perfectly for their fears, for their competence, incompetence, for their injuries. I mean, you can find this kind of information, which you consider credible. And you say there won't be a counter? But if people want to watch it, why shouldn't they do it? No, no, we're not talking about that. We're just saying that the internet can find it. And why should someone decide what to put in the media?

If someone proves somewhere that the world is flat, it will be a channel on YouTube. Many people have already proven it.

Now I will say what YouTubers do all the time. Subscribe, thumbs up!

Comment, thumbs up! We're going back to Tomek, because we'll come back to these tops to sum up and talk about the expiration date of the tops on the Internet.

We'll be right back.

Thanks.

Piotr, can you hear me?

Yes, of course.

Have you already started preparing for Christmas? Dude, a fridge is on fire, a bakery is on fire, a dishwasher is on fire, I'm preparing for Christmas. Dude, fridge hire, bakery hire, dishwasher hire, I'm preparing for Christmas in half a day.

So, to sum up, Christmas at Kędzior's is hire. Yes, yes. At the highest level. We're back to the conversation.

Piotr. Voivodeship Kędziorski and our buddy, friend, crazy reporter, dear Tomek.

Dear Tomek, because I watched a lot of your episodes.

I agree.

And I prepared myself. I even appreciate what you write in your profile and with your friend Arkadiusz. Rumors, leaks, unverified information, pharmas, lies. He is a crazy dancer. And I started to analyze your method of running the show. There is whining, slander,

accusations, but there is never a solid point or a shout. You always break it and say, this one did this to this one and I won't say more. And I wonder if you realize this method.

You sit in the bus, I don't know, you leave something very ugly- really bad and get off at the nearest bus stop.

I try not to do that. At least in buses. You know what? No, I didn't pay attention to it. Maybe it's like that, if you say so, I have no right to undermine what you say. Probably yes, but you know what? Sheet is a completely different format. What Kuba said, where I am, that is, Crazy Reporter, because I generally run three channels. Not all year, I have three silver buttons, wonderful. But a crazy podcast, these are typical interviews, they are a bit more serious. At least I try, I know that maybe for you, Sondat, it's ...

I'll find out soon.

I'll find out soon. It's typical, and it was supposed to be from the beginning, such a pastiche, caricature, TV show. We laugh at ourselves, at what's going on around us. And we really appeal to not believe it. We really record some scenes there. We go outside the studio. It was supposed to be a show from the beginning, more than something serious.

Explain to me how this ecosystem works. To me, Kuba and the listeners. Because for people it's really strange. I know that some topic is now dominated by cassette tapes. I don't know what's going on. I understand that influencers advertise casinos.

Yes, yes. They go to Malta in a hurry, possibly to Cyprus. Those who were rejected from the freakfight ecosystem, who are no longer able to earn money here, suddenly these casinos dig them out a little bit and reactivate them, respawn them, and one has an alt on it, and what? And this stream just looks like he clicks on this casino and says, play, play, if you don't play, you won't win.

And they get such sick, disgusting money, with which money from the freak fight. These are no money. But wait, is it really such a big problem? Sick money? A few million a month? No. Stable money, yes.

For advertising the casino?

Yes. Where can you log in? I'll give you, I think, off the air. No, but tell me, because I understand that here... And I'll add that this is the worst sort, I'm not generalizing so that you don't get offended now. The worst sort of freak, freak fighters, freak fighters, because the casinos don't care about PR. Give me an example.

But what is the worst sort? Some one-name-pseudonym. No, maybe not. You can buy, I'm talking about your podcast where you talk to people, a visit with such a two-hour security break that you won't ask uncomfortable questions? I never took money for someone coming to me. Because journalists had a lot of doubts and questions to journalists, claiming that his conversation with Janusz Palikot was a kind of liquid softening the image of Janusz, his troubles, costing between 20 and 40 thousand zlotys.

We don't do that either. Is it typical in the YouTube community? You can buy a conversation that purifies such a public confession? As far as I know, you know, I'm not going to go into purifying, but as far as I know, it's a common practice. I mean, you can pay for such a podcast to be published. I never did it and I don't plan to, so it's hard for me to answer, because I don't do it, right? I'm curious, because I don't have any contacts with my former partner, did Janusz Palikot make an impression on you of a person to whom the current reality somehow reaches through the gaps of philosophical consciousness?

I think, unfortunately, no. For me, it's a picture of a person. I wouldn't assess him, as a matter of fact, negatively, on the basis of apical cheater who wanted to do wrong, but as a scared, stuck-up little prince who lives on a cloud, and really doesn't know he did wrong, and thinks he'll fix it all, and make more money.

I was impressed by that. Not a bad person who thought he was a good person, but just a person who had a syndrome and has no problem with it. I have the impression that Janusz is in such a great surprise that the world did not recognize his genius. A little bit, yes. He is a little bit afraid of the hurt. Did you feel that way?

I felt that way, yes. I asked him the question in which I had two conversations with him, because he said that, of course, politically... Wait a minute, wait a minute. One of them accused you of something completely different, the other one shut you down, totally contradictory. All the allies say it's your fault, all the allies say it's your fault, so somewhere here there's a method of non-crazyness,

that you have a different opinion.

And that's my reflection.

Wait a minute, Piotr, because it's interesting. Because you're the fourth person here, I am the second person, if not the third. I didn't listen to your interview with Janusz, because I try to avoid it, so as not to suggest myself. Janusz answered your question, why was Wojewódzki not arrested? Yes, he answered my question. I, by the way, was in Wojewódzki only in the early days, there is no responsibility, but there was a very thorough question from my side, because I wanted...

I'm glad you appreciate yourself so much? No, no, no. I think so, because I never... I, as a listener, did not meet with this. I asked Janusz if he was collecting any money from this, because if it were so, theoretically, you would also be slightly dirty. You took this money. And Janusz honestly said that you were doing it for free and you never took any money. And I think that only in my conversation it appeared. And that's also good information.

So I totally disagree. I mean, I know how he said it honestly.

I'm glad that he said it like that. I think it didn't fall down earlier. And for me it was important information, for example.

And you know what I had a conclusion? Because I watched Palikot, his driver Palikot. I know this driver. I don't know if you've read this book and watched the film Grey Gardens, where there are women who lived in prosperity, and suddenly a man who earned all this dies, and they stay in this villa and it destroys everything, and it's a dramatic situation.

And there is a revolt. Janusz was responsible for the charges of his driver, and he was so detached from a normal person, where he said he paid for the bills of a millionaire, and then he was not counted. It was the most shocking outburst of Janusz Palikot, at that moment it was also disgusting.

I think that Janusz Palikot, if we accuse him, and it is an accusation that he sends a driver a few hundred kilometers for bread or tomatoes, which is a crime. And Janusz Palikład says that there are losses of many millions, you are counting me out of 5 zloty. Well, but if investors gave and the blood was drawn by the company and he went for the money, that's why maybe it didn't work out and he doesn't understand it. Look, it's not like YouTube likes algorithms and the audience, paradoxically, likes people with a broken life. Because they are a bit like romantic heroes, because they are a bit like converted sinners, who made mistakes.

I'm leaving it like that. You, Janusz Palikot, a journalist, Marcin Dubiel. People with a slight stain of shame. Dubiel is a bad example, because people don't like him and he can't come back from that. If he falls, he can't come back. Does Janusz smoke from people? I also think that there is a big social ostracism. And I still think that Janusz is cheating, that people like him because they meet him on the street and they clap their hands.

It just is. You see a man you know, you say, you approach them for a photo, just like that. And your opinion may be different. So I don't know if Janusz is sure about that. I think that yes, these people are certainly more interesting, as you say. But I think you picked the wrong group. But aren't such people, on a social level, more human, because they are imperfect? Look, our president Karol Nawrocki, a converted sinner.

Is that a good example? I don't know why a converted sinner. Is that a good example? I don't know why a converted sinner. I think that...

When did he convert and when did he sin? I think that his little flaws in his life only aroused sympathy. I think so.

The electorate that elected him certainly likes a more human man and more of a man who had a spade there, but it was his own man. Well, yes, than more a squintoken Rafał Trzaskowski. You map people very well, I think, you understand their potential chances for a career

that starts on the Internet and then enters the world, also analog. I would like to throw a few names, so you can tell me if these are people with potential. Because we sometimes have a dilemma with Piotr dilemma even if we invite them to the show. And now I'm going to cross someone's career or someone's... No, it's going to be your personal opinion.

But remember that the rule is that you may not answer.

No, no, of course, I'm kidding.

Dominika Serowska. I have no idea who that is. This is Marcin Hakiel's partner.

I knew you'd such a character. No. Marianna Schreiber. Well... No, it's terrible... No, it's going to be a big flash and it's going to go out quickly. Vojopini.

Karolaj Derpiński. He's already gone.

Maja Chyrzy. I don't know who that is. She was the wife of Grzegorz Chyrzy. Apparently a vocalist. You don't know, you haven't heard. I don't know. You, the man of the Internet. I don't know the whole universe of the scum. But I understand that these worlds, because wait, Kuba, because Tomek is proof that the

world of the media and the Internet sometimes are the same.

But I'm talking about the world of people from the Internet.

Okay, yet. You're a vocalist, you're from the Internet. And something tells me, this is probably a man who had marital problems and became famous for it, right? Yes. Oh, that's probably the point. And that's what you can build a career, monetization, land in the Quites, and then in Malta. No, Kuba, you said it great, but it's not a career. What is it?

We say career, money, you'll make money, because you land in the Quites, you're a career. One of the worst inventions of Satan is emptiness. The funniest. These people just exploit their emptiness. But what you said about them, what you said about them, it is at some point, it is a time recognition, which can be later converted into a possible career. Whether you use it or not. If you go to the freak fights, Mr. Korczarowski and many others,

you are already so exhausted and you will do 2, 3, 4, maybe 5 rolls. Do you insult Mr. Marcin Pele in Freak Fights? I'll choose all of them in Freak Fights.

He has some level of determination.

I wonder, I'm old, I don't understand some things. The world of the Internet is not my element. Is such a, metaphorically speaking, digital prayer about being noticed, appreciated, even for a few minutes, is it something trivial? No, but very empty, empty and if it doesn't get, I say again, through work, systematically cut out, because people think so,

you know, I have, let's say, two channels, that is, two films for each channel in a week. Each film, more or less, for two weeks. That is, that is eight hours of edited material in a week uploaded to YouTube. That's a lot. And people think that it's just so popular, that it's some kind of scandal, and that they'll get money from it. It doesn't look like that.

I'm saying, you gain instant recognition, which you can use to get something, but if you use it only for freakfights... Freakfights, like in my case, I came in and out, If you go to a multi-stream casino or go to a freak fight and you'll only yell at others, it's not a career. So they're more of a viral, a short meme.

These federations use them more than they do themselves. I'm wondering, finishing this topic, can you assign bad intentions to such people? No, absolutely not. Everyone is empty, everyone would like to be recognized this kind of freedom, at least most of them. But one more thing to note, that the earnings we said, which Kuba, you were so surprised, and rightly so, you can even be outraged, seriously, for such money? Although you earn it yourself, it's a matter of course.

You are still outside the scope of the Polish Office of the State.

No, no, no.

Why? They are big, but the beginners, the credit card debt, the Mr. Korczarowski, who was so impressed by the crew, it's very little money. There is a terrible disparity.

And how much do they fight for? For 1200 zlotys?

No, but times 20. So 20 000? Well, with half a million, it's not enough. I mean not to generalize, you know what I mean. I mean that not free fights, it's 100, 200, 300 thousand. Free fights are sometimes 20, sometimes half a million.

Those at the bottom, they make idiots of themselves for this little money and really sometimes they are disrupting their careers.

And do I understand that this is in his hands, or is he paying his coach, or is it already on the side of the federation? Unfortunately, he pays the coach, he pays everything, he pays for the coach, he pays for everything. Wait, so he gets two of those for the fight where he compromises for the whole world? I'm not talking about him, but there are such, because I don't want anyone to have any secrets. He pays for the coach, yes, and he leaves you with a five, let's say. For one eye? In my opinion, which we'll talk about later. Doesn't it hurt you that you're thrown into a bag with the word Pato on it? And next to you, there are a few weird characters. It's you. I have the impression that you have some kind of positive aura in you,

contrary to appearances, a good heart, and you just... You feel like you're looking for a pole to put in a fictional company. Kendzior would be the first. No, but I'm saying this out of curiosity. Don't you think it's a burden for you?

Listen, I've worked on it a little bit. I say it again. Of course I would prefer not to. I don't think that, I think that from your perspective, gentlemen, it is patho and through your filters, if you ask someone from your company, they'll say Pato. I think that at this point, at least, there's no such crazy podcast. You're tracking the last... No, let's take the last 10 podcasts, instead of the player.

Well, in my opinion, if we're looking for a Pato metro station, it's Mr. Stonoga. Well, a little bit, yes. No, because you dedicated... Yes, yes, it's iconic, but it's a part of it. Tomasz, you dedicated the program to Dorota Dodzie-Rabczewska, taking out of her alleged friend, disgusting information. Didn't you have a feeling of disgust that you were entering someone's private war and privately throwing yourself a whine?

Kuba, the story with Dodzie started with me seeing her interview with Emil in Solny 24, which is no longer there. And I, myself, from a purely non-reporter's point of view, because I'm not, but from a human curiosity, I said, damn, he's not too well-dressed. He wasn't too well-dressed, I would ask him a lot more. I contacted Emil, he reporter just didn't ask. Emil came to me, but the day before I contacted Dorota, and I talked to Dorota before Emil came,

I talked to Dorota and said that Emil is not here, and I said, Dorota, one interview is already, I suspect that he will use the same arguments, more or less, what should I say, how to reflect that? What's the point of Dorota? Narcoman, stupid Narcoman, everyone is stupid. You're stupid, he's stupid, Pahut is stupid, and he's even more stupid. Dorota. I know, I know. But, for example, she didn't want to answer me, she just depressed everyone. I said, okay, let's focus on one thing.

I saw that he showed in the 24th, your picture in his bedroom, with your friend, what can you do about it? It's not even a photo, you can't see the wings there! And I noticed then that there's a completely different approach here. A tough contender! And I said, okay, that's interesting, Dorota at the end of this conversation said a sentence, the conversation is being recorded, it's in the prosecutor's files at the moment,

because Dorota has already put up 1200 poses. How did that sentence sound? Thank you very much, you called. Do this Polish podcast, I understand your work. He won't do anything wrong anymore, Emil. I'm glad that you asked for the other side's sentence and called me. Thank you for that. After that, I give this interview and it starts to be,

through third parties, acquaintances, through her, take it off, you have to throw it away there is my family attacked, disgusting things I say, wait a minute, this is for me such a red light if there is something about your mom, which you would not want which fragment to cut out

no, the whole interview is to fall I say, you can edit it on YouTube I'll cut it out, not the whole interview to fall and suddenly there was an appeal to throw away my social media to report my accounts and so on. And at that moment I said, hola hola stop, because there is probably something more. She reacts so hysterically to all this, when I talked to her and I agreed. And as for Diana, dear Kuba, she got ...

Diana Schaffer, right? Dorota Rapczewska, her management, got questions about this podcast after recording, and before publishing, that she could be responsible for everything. About abortion, about everything, if she even knows it, she got a whole list of questions, she got information that there is such an interview, and it was sent. And you know what happened on the day of the publication,

because they also knew when this publication would be, because we wrote this and that day comes out. Well, it was Sunday. A number called me, but on Friday, the court verdict fell, that you have no right to speak, you have to take everything. And he will come to you. So the prevention censorship worked, right?

And when I see a number from the court that is already flying somewhere, to me by mail, it obviously blows, I don't know. It's a fiction. And I said, no, I'm letting it go and I see it on the other side, because I really asked the question how to refute Emil's arguments. If he's lying, Dorota, what should I say? And I heard that he's a drug addict, like all of them.

And what is the point of the discussion? But I have to, as your slightly older colleague from work, Only good. partner, husband of Dodie, Emil Stempien, whom I know, who told me that he paid her for her breasts, doesn't it make you feel sorry? Of course it does. But I'm here to listen to someone's story, not to judge or filter this message.

You know, I have one problem with when someone comes to me and says that he heard or saw something. If someone says, under their name, not with a hood, with a blurred face, he just says, my name is Emil Stępień, Diana Szafrę, or something else. And I was in the clinic when she had an abortion. I was in the clinic when she had an abortion. I just wanted to say, public divagation. I don't like Dorota.

For years. She knows about it.

I saw your great interview with Dorota. Many years ago. It was very provocative, but provocative. But wait, isn't the public divagation about whether Doda had an abortion or not, isn't it so internally, in a masculine way, humiliating for you? Where are the boundaries? But there is a guy who says it, should I cut it out, should I interrupt him? And even if she experienced something like that, she definitely didn't do it on principle.

Okay, but this person said it, and should I interrupt her in interrupt her or cut it out. Kuba, what would you do? I wouldn't put myself in such a situation. I wouldn't want to pull this thread. Ok, I understand that. And were there any threads in the conversation with Diana Shaffer about the dodos that were removed? I don't remember. Because accusing someone that he came up with his oncological diagnosis is a very risky, morally risky thing. He really thinks that Dorota played with cancer, with the black guy to...

Yes, I think so. To arouse pity, as usual, to turn it around. Because then... I mean, now there were those interviews and so on. Kuba, I really know a lot more than is published and because of the way I publish these podcasts, many people report to me, I have many opinions, many stories about Dorota and I have an even more radicalized opinion about her than it would seem.

But in which direction? In the worse direction. And it's not that I know something or not, I just know that there are so many strange stories and if someone has a diagnosis of a black person and immediately flies to Vietnam and lies on the beach, gets sunburned If someone shows only the direction and never shows...

But you know that blogging with photos on the Internet... No, no, no, she said that she was later Listen, there is an interview from April 8th, which she gave when she was diagnosed in February and she said in this interview that she has never been in a better moment of her life, financially, health-wise, etc. Maybe it was a philmasia, maybe it was an escape. Of course it was. Okay, I'll ask you the last question. What is the most secretly hidden secret of Dorota Rapczewska?

Those three cult videos from your shows where you always say you have them, I never said that I have them, or that I had them, or that I saw them, I know that they exist. And I know. There is a secret hidden, I think, because I'm not sure, but it's such a strong thing that I wouldn't want to have another, the strongest professor in the Czech Republic. I think there are many more things, but until we have enough evidence, I don't want to talk about it. I think that Dorota is a pretty smart emotional player, who knows how to inform the society, to avoid some difficult situations, to cover up some difficult situations.

That's how it was in Sopot. When I saw her on the stage of the concert of the artist against violence and hatred, I thought I was going to die laughing.

So tell me what the mainstream media is mainly directed at, which promote her and invite her, and she has a certain pattern of treating her former partners, where she just destroys them with premeditation, one after the other. I'm not saying that each of them is holy, that's not what it's about. Only why does the mainstream accept her, and on YouTube it gets such blows?

You have to listen to mainstream, and I will repeat what I said before, that for me, personally, this YouTube is better, because it is more authentic. It may not be as precise, it is sometimes... Maybe it's just more brave. It is more brave, but it is more verified by itself, by Pandora, and we really, you know, Kuba, one comment on another,

you go to the red one and you have a movie right away. And here it's blocked because there are big interests, because Doda has a contract with one TV, or Karolak has a contract with a dance with stars, and it's not in anyone's hands to make something about him. So it's not mutually self-verifying. I mean, one actor doesn't like another, and we just do it.

Okay.

But it's like this. You say in interviews that people started reporting to you. That they want to be in your show. You're not afraid of being a tool.

No, I'm talking about information about the progeny. It wasn't that they wanted to be in the show. I have a million stories. Some people report to you and say, I have something to say, I want to say it. Aren't you afraid that someone will manipulate you and use you as a bait? Of course I'm afraid. And as much as I can, I try to fix it. And I think we haven't invited anyone yet who has totally made up the story.

There were definitely some lies, for sure someone was a party in some conflict, and by force of things, defending himself, he has changed the color of the story. but I haven't had the chance to invite a total fantasy who would have spat something out of his finger, right? At least I think so. I'm afraid I'm wrong. Don't you have the impression that the Internet, YouTube, people like you, like Konopski, like Wardęga have become an alternative dimension of justice?

That you try to dress up as prosecutors from YouTube? And that's very bad. I mean, I don't try, but I think there is such a desire, there is such a temptation and many people do it. Well, I, as I had several times, I already had, I got some documents which I was not able to verify, which looked like something that could be, something that could cause prosecution charges,

then first they took me to the prosecutor's office here in Warsaw, and then I told about it in the film a few days later, and I have a few examples. The worst is the reverse order. Because it is completely a contradiction of how it should be done. But yes, Kuba,

you are right that sometimes some people get too much into the boots of the Internet sheriffs and try to calculate. No, I'm talking about a rather common category of reversed morality. That people, even people like you, with many sins, about which we can forget, such as the excommunication of punishment,

try to take such very moralizing, other actions. And I try to entertain myself in it somehow. Why do you take such rights from me, Kuba?

No, I don't. I'm just asking.

Why do you think I have them less? Because I, for example, think... This is my opinion, of course, you can agree with me, that I have... My voice is stronger and more convincing when it comes to not going to knows that I committed a crime by being in prison.

And that's all wrong, but it's wrong in theory, because we know it. When I was there, I could say, Bro, I was really there. It's really fucked up there. It's not like your mom says and warns you. And I remind you that some meetings, they were mostly drug addicts or alcoholics.

And here it is a bit like this. I really don't want to put myself in the role of someone wiser or more moral, but I think that it's not that I should take this right, but in some moments I have a stronger voice and more convincing in warning someone.

Okay, and do you easily confront people?

I guess so. Because Channel Zero, Krzysztof Stanowski, made a voice material about you. Agree. You didn't take, I think, your gloves. Well, he didn't break this video, I took it off, I gave an answer to it, only that video has 3.7 million, mine has probably 300-400 thousand, I answered precisely.

Because I remember Konopskiego, who made a video about his ethical doubts towards some partners of Zero channel advertising and it was very much discussed. Yes, but Kuba, you're talking about a slightly different time, because it was now, where Stanowski is also a bit, his legs are a bit shaken up, he used to be really unmovable, it seemed so. The story was that I ran the channel, I no longer run Crazy Politics and we wrote to, as the government changed, as the coalition came,

on December 13, as some say. A new government. We wrote to the ministries, influencers, and how much money they got. We got a letter from the NASK, the Ministry of Digitalization, from the NASK Institute, that Krzysztof Stanowski, under his name, not under any, as he said, channel zero, or whatever, Krzysztof Stanowski 718,000 zlotys.

How much? 718 000 PLN 718 is a nice money It is very nice So we published it and it started Krzysztof Stanowski said that we don't understand anything, that we are idiots That it was... You know, even if it is a top goal and there was something to it And he even fulfilled it

But we have to pause in a moment Do you think that Krzysztof Stanowski has something on conscience, he hid something? No, it's not about that The point is that the film aimed at me wasn't... The reason it wasn't... This is a bad YouTuber, look. This is a YouTuber who shows me a document, I have to discredit him so that no one listens to him. Do you understand?

That's why there was shooting at me from every possible angle. For normal people, he was in prison. For that environment, he sold his friends. In general, he harmed his mother, etc. On many levels, he discredits me so that no one listens to me because this lunatic walks around and shows this document. This is the difference.

At this point, it's like Konopski recorded a film for him doing deep research and he just wanted to destroy me, discredit me so that no one listens to me on the Internet.

Listen, about cancelling on YouTube in a moment because I wanted to touch on this topic.

Third and last time we came in, not the last time.

Mr. Tomek, Mr. Tomek, crazy reporter.

We'll be right back.

We're back after a break. Christmas, Christmas, Christmas. Kędzierski is a brand of Lotto. And you can subscribe here, give a thumb up. Szalony Reporter is our guest. Dear Tomek, tell me, a few people have ended up on the Internet, let's call it so ugly. Who will come back, who will not come back?

And what does it depend on?

I don't know who you're asking.

I can give you a hint. Buddha had a very big crisis. You know what? Was it a blowout or was it really something big?

No, he had a big crisis. Buddha is such a big character that he'll come back. I don't think he'll come back to YouTube. He's doing something. I think he's making his own app where he'll just buy subscriptions Smart idea. Very smart idea. He's a young entrepreneur. He's proving that he's a young entrepreneur. Very smart idea.

He's guaranteed a steady income and you can win a lottery with it. Because then you're really advertising a product. No one can say anything.

But was there anything that went wrong the way it did?

In your opinion? Piotr, no. You know what? No, no, no. It's not about that. There is a shift in the indication that everything is bad or good there. It turns out that the prosecutor's office has shot through the whole thing.

That someone's eyes were on what was happening, the whole blitz of money and sums that were happening there. That it was too much, both in the case of Budda and later the whole top of the Feimu and so on, in the second arrests. It turns out that the prosecutor's office has nothing to do with it, because the declarations were issued by the state authorities. It's obvious, but I don't know how it will end. The prosecutor's office is in a very complicated situation, in my opinion. Before we go further with this list, I wonder why you, after the attack, the attack in the film by Krzyśk Stan's movie Why did you get fired? I didn't get fired, but I didn't get fired for no reason

I got a hard f**k and I came back Exactly I just... Listen, it was a very hard time and I'll be honest, I published those episodes because I knew it was the best the best way to just keep on creating and releasing

because people who are mad at you and just look like a f**k they still want to fuck you up And if you wait half a year, you'll get it after half a year So I had very low reach It didn't go down at all

It was just thumbs down and so on And slowly, slowly it passed People shouted at me, called me Some said, finally, that, oh, okay I forget or I like his podcasts And it passed I forget or I like his podcasts and it's gone. For example, Marcin Dubiel, who waits a few months and suddenly jumps out,

Hey, can I do it now? Everyone says no. And he again. He has to get out of his shoes and be able to do it.

Do you think Dubiel is finished?

No, I just think he's playing his return to the Internet very badly. Will he play it better? Because he's in a worse situation all the time. This time is passing. So, you know, first reading from a letter from the lawyers, that I will call everyone, then suddenly I regret it, mom is crying,

these are extreme messages and he used them all, it was just a mistake. I don't want to advise him, but I think that I... It's not a matter of me... I was in hell, as you said, it's a matter of

that I just got drunk, I was clenching my teeth and creating. I went out to these people, I tried to explain what happened and, above all, to continue creating. And, simply, whoever wants to, stayed with me. Now I'm a year higher in places than I was before the Sanofsky film.

What do you feel, what emotions do you have towards Mr. Krzysztof? Is it anger or understanding of his intentions?

For sure more anger, you know, because there was a lot of lies in this movie, there was manipulation, but I understand it, he did it for that, you know. Wait, because when the argument of lies is already falling, then let's point it out. Ukraine, Ukraine, that I have a ban, no, he said that, I say it again, the goal was to be on every level, so that I wouldn't have anyone who could support what I do. So it wasn't really about how to hit Ukraine, because I think I know what Krzysztof is on this side, which he doesn't support in Ukraine. I was there with help, we were collecting it ourselves, and I was delivering it ourselves. We went to Kharkov, and so on. So that he were filming some bombs, people died before you, a few people were arrested

But if you wanted to have freedom on YouTube, you have it on both sides Rightfully so, in my weapon In the normal, traditional media that I represent, it would be rubbish, no one would watch it seriously And he also said, and I said it beautifully, that I have a ban on entering Ukraine, so the next day I got in the car, went to Ukraine, passed through the border, I mean, I didn't pass through the border without a passport, I didn't leave my passport on the drum, sorry, everyone has to be there, so I went through one, then the other, I bought a carton of cigarettes and a bottle, because that's all you can do, I went through it on foot,

I recorded this stamp in my passport and so on. So I overestimated, at least one of the tests. So I also raised the doubt of the whole rest, because people who saw that it was possible in one day. There were many things that were pulled, manipulated, but that was his goal, he just did it.

But I don't see anything wrong with your photo,

when you smile on the ruins. I don't see anything wrong with that. I removed it a long time ago. I removed it right away. But I know where you can find them. Of course. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Do you remember the famous photos of Jack Kurski on the back of the barricade?

I don't see anything wrong with that. When we were take help, take to Ukraine and take 40 smiling photos, we would have a great success and Ukrainians would be happy. Okay, you said that you got a nice f**king from Krzysztof, I would like to refer to this, not to Krzysztof, but to f**king. Marek Hłasko in one of his books writes, In prison there is pure Darwinism,

connected with the modern feudal system. The strongest and the richest rule and win. The rest serves them.

How much truth is in this?

100%. You were with the strongest and the richest? If you ask about it, I belonged to the subculture of the gripping. And where did you get this choice? I emphasize again, I was a kid fascinated by these gangsters. It was great, it was nobility.

Now it's funny, now these values are funny to me, now it's funny to me that someone can hurt people out of principle, and then build some moral code. It's irrational for me, but then, for a 19-year-old, it was fascinating. And that's how I belonged to this generation. So you wanted to be an elite criminal in prison? That's right. I think human desire is an elite being everywhere. Regardless of the place you are in. Well, okay. Well, Kuba, it's not that you wanted to go to prison, but when you're there, you would like to be an elite in a certain place.

In a senior's house? I would not like to be an elite. We know this from the Symmetry of Konrad Niewolski. What is the test? What kind of exam? There is no test, there is no exam.

How do they accept you?

Your documents are checked, what you got, your testimonies, or articles, which of course can't be a rape, and your testimonies, that there is nothing there, you didn't harm anyone, you didn't sell anyone, colloquially speaking, so you didn't sell them, to be honest. So you didn't spread them. Well, let it be so. But I think that this side of the wall is not a place to talk about those rules. And Freakfighters still suck this criminal language, unfortunately.

And I generally think that talking about it... I would have dropped a short sentence on that.

But what privileges did you have?

What are the privileges of being a... There is no... It's not like that. It's not like that. There are no privileges. It's more like a bond, that you have to go after each other, you have to help each other, etc. That's the way it is. And listen, there's always a lot of strength.

So if this part, the gripping one, goes after the other, the rest will listen to him, because he doesn't have a duty to help the other. You do, because you would have problems if you don't help. So you are unity. And that's what it all depends on. But you know you're talking about it with some kind of such an ethos and pride. Well, no, I just said that this ethos is funny. Because if you build first, and if you break all the rules, and then later, after breaking the rules, build your own,

well, it's irrational, funny and word spondyć was left in the youth word of the year. Everyone who knows, this is a generationally discovered word again, because it already existed in the Polish language. Does the modern flu also have some new terms? Because I don't know too many flu-sick people. I, when it comes to the modern flu, it's hard to say because I was in prison 30 years ago. So when it comes to the modern, so I don't know about modern grizzly bear. And I don't want to talk about it too much. But you keep in touch with your friends.

No, not anymore. The process of leaving that world was so hard, I had to cut it off to find myself in it. I have some gentle acquaintances, but I don't have contact with those people on a daily basis. I mean, we still talk about me as a here and now, and it was 1997, 1998. Yes, but it is said that for someone, and you make a very free and social person feel, and need such oxygen and attention and attention of choice, that prison is a nightmare.

A nightmare. It's the worst place on earth. What did prison teach you, but not, I'm talking about criminal activity, criminal group, criminal activity, but internally. What did you learn about yourself? You know, I learned, but I forget it every day. We really don't appreciate what we have. That there, a person would give everything for the things we have here, so everyday and so simply given from above.

That going out, touching the grass with your foot, or even going out on the grass with your shoe, because you don't have it there, or seeing the sun without a crack, how it falls on your face, is something that the feeling of freedom is so permanent, so immoment, ingrained in a person. We don't understand it until it is taken away from us. I believe that not without COSER, all penitentiary systems in the world are depriving people of freedom.

I remember a situation when we were going, and she describes it very well, here in Kraków, we were driving somewhere from the court... There, in Kraków. You got me, right? We were driving somewhere from the court, and it's just a feeling, a small window, and you know, you look, because you're looking at that goal all the time, and a lady was standing on the lane, you know?

And we were standing there, and when the green light came on, I don't know if she decides to turn right or left. I don't know how it affected me. Because there, no, you have to stand, sit, stand, sit, people will lead you, that's it. You don't decide anything. And this freedom of decision, this possibility of making a decision, is so strong in us, and you feel terribly bad when they take you away. Let's go down to the level of...

Let's forget about all this resocialization system causing an adult human being, because for me a 19-year-old is already a little adult, maybe not mature. What has changed you? What can you tell us, our listeners, me, Kendzior, what made you change? Definitely not prison. Definitely not.

Prison is what broke me in the first years. I had more and more acquaintances, more and more possibilities to act in this environment. I was more and more scattered, colloquially speaking, and that's it. Prison doesn't teach you anything. There is too few workers, time,

too few staff. Nobody teaches you. This is survival. This is a punishment from above. This is... There is no socialization there. But is it true that you can buy everything with so-called keys? No, Bzura, once even more. Now no.

Camera systems, everything. No, no, no, you can't. But you know what's worse? I think the worst is the post-penitentiary system. Why? Because these people keep coming back. Because you don't have a thrown-out-the-gate. because you have thrown out the gate. I also understand that the first money is for hospitals, older people and children, and not for former prisoners.

And this is obvious in our morals, as if we are graduating, but if someone after 2-5 years goes out without any money, gets 7-8 zloty on the bus to the place of residence and has no prospects, and the gentleman, when he goes to work, says that he has been in prison for the last two years and he will't accept him. The state doesn't care about these people. He has no other choice than to commit a crime. I'm not explaining it at all, really. It's just such a systemic problem. And I'll tell you honestly, if you're in the same unit for a year, you see the same people five times a year.

And they will come back. And they will come back. Just like that. So you're lucky you didn't come back. I'm a big exception, I'm a huge exception. I'll tell you, really, there's no such thing, these stories never end well. That's why I'm also a living example to warn these kids, those fascinated with this criminal language in these freakfights, with this Denis Załęski, to warn them, because these stories don't end well. Just like that.

Did the fact that you went out on people, your family had an impact on you? Huge. people, your family has had an impact on you? Huge, well, my mother's suffering, you know, Kuba asked about this vision, we have, well, it is still so that you, when you are arrested, I spent almost 6 years in prison, so as if before the sentence. 6 years in... Yes, but it was like on a rision, only the mother of the closest family.

So this poor mother of mine, first to Lublin, Włodawy, Chełma, Łubkowa, Moszczańce, a town in Bieszczady, quite far away, or here, somewhere to Kraków or to Silesia, she's the first, because the first contact, to say, to give, and it was, it really reached me, that she's driving for a few kilometers and I'm always here, doing my stuff

I have a very good contact with my mom but every few days I call her and suddenly when there's a problem this poor mother has to go through half of Poland to go to see me To close this topic

which law firm do you recommend the most?

Definitely Moszczaniec, because it's a semi-open facility Moszczaniec, yes? Moszczaniec, it's a semi-open centre. There's no wall. Moszczaniec, yes. Moszczaniec, it's a suburb of Łupkowo. I highly recommend it. I give this Allegrovic 5 stars in Google. But is it Bieszczady?

Bieszczady, a place where you can bring food by helicopter in winter, because you won't make it. But it's a semi-open center Normally you would have a hotel for a year, right? The end of the... Without SPA, but there was a shower The end of the punishment, there was a bigger crime

I just got there because... This is a long story, but the answer is here But I was promoted by myself to a smoker And this smoker was needed in Kotłownie, and they transported me from Włodaw to Moszczańce, because I wanted to get there. Do you have any education? I am an economist by profession, and I studied economics for 3 years.

And now I understand Palacze's skills. Yes, Palacze's patents, everything.

Pope, Pole. We change the subject.

Not Palacze.

I watched a conference before the gala. And this is Mr. Korczanowski, one of the speakers. Korczarowski. Korczarowski, sorry. This is Mr. Marian Szajber, one of the speakers. He looks like he had a feeling for bees. But the quintessence, the conclusion after this whole story is the famous saying

Strong in the world, strong in the net, pizza in the net, a pizda in the net. And we have a guy who is in charge of this on Twitter, he shares his pride and so on.

He shared, he shared.

And that's it, in one day, a dozen minutes, he destroyed his life.

Not even one day. The process started when this gentleman, he also attacked me many times, when I showed his image. So the gentleman who judged everyone's appearance, life, behavior He didn't show his appearance, life, behavior or family It's easy to hate an avatar

So we showed how he looks and it was the first shock Because before that, someone else came out, his partner And I remind him of the entry, a woman with a tattoo Thank you for the criminalist His woman has a tattoo He was talking about men who meet

Are they with women who have children from previous relationships? He was talking about them Kacolt Or how it is said nicely You probably have to take a pee when it comes to YouTube And this woman herself is a husband

She has two children So ultra rightist Just criticizing everyone You have to go with Ulańcami has two children. So ultra-rightist, a speaker who simply criticizes everyone, with ulańcami you have to go. This is a world mission to go with fat guys. Well, this gentleman turned out to be a fat,

150 cm guy, in huge glasses, with a complexion, whose woman has two children, is a married woman and tattoos. And here was the first big surprise. And this gentleman had no way out, Piotr, because he stopped having such an esteem, such a respect on Twitter.

Well, as they know how I look, I'm going to Freak Fighters. But his performance in Freak Fighters completely overwhelmed him. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I wanted to tell you that I felt a great compassion for this man. That he will leave the studio and he should be taken care of by the Federation. I think that he is a very sad man and ruined everything that God has done. But here is a question that we sometimes ask with Piotr, people from your world more than ours, whether on the Polish Internet you can ultimately compromise, irrevocably and forever.

What closes this age's age mean?

I think nothing, you know, I think nothing, because unfortunately there are always... But is it possible or not? Is there always a chance for a small resurrection? I don't want to ignore it, it's probably possible. Gargamel is an example of when his age was closed. Only there was a heavy hypocrisy, but here we have a similar case with the Polish Pope. This is a very similar case. A guy who criticized exactly those rules,

according to which he himself disobeyed, and when it was shown, suddenly...

And with Hugh Barton?

I think it's also a good example. I don't think there's a return to this. However this case would end legally or... Is he in Poland at all? No, he's in Great Britain, because he has double citizenship and the Polish expedition is still waiting for him. Well, now it will probably be harder.

And do you follow the fate of your family, because I have a lot of sympathy, but also weaknesses. Do you follow the fate of Filip Heizer, as well as his father, Zygmunt Heizer? I follow, I know Filip, he lives not far from me. He moved to Krakow, he lives just behind the bridge. Exactly. Do you have any explanation for this bizarre career? Presence? Well, on the net too. Damn, paradoxically, I have such a problem with Filip that I know him and I like him privately. I sometimes talk to him, I met him once.

And I don't know, when I see, for example, the last situation with this bonding of these exams, because you probably drink to it, my hands are falling off But what would you advise him? Because I have the impression that he has tools He can't lead this kebab and not give himself to the media But maybe the kebab itself is a bad choice But listen, kebab, if he focused only on this kebab This kebab really works for him, it's good, I eat it, but why all this?

What he means is that he has to experience everything in public. I don't know, Kuba, I don't have an answer to this question.

But I'm asking you for some advice, because it's more your world.

I'm sorry, because when I look at the career of both father and son,

But dad went to prison now.

Yes, but now dad will also be the head of the RemontTV channel. Who?

Dad, Zygmunt Heiser. They were people who used to give cards. They have the possibility.

Definitely yes.

Where did such bad choices come from?

I met Mr. Zygmunt live and talked to him a few times. He is such an old type of mainstream, main media guy, who really knows how to do it. Culture, voice. He was probably some charity bar and he was giving a speech. It's really just to look and learn.

I don't know, Kuba, I can't answer this question. What went wrong here? What's going on here?

Do you have the impression that one of your programs had such a power of attorney and something good happened? I'm not talking about an avalanche, that Karol Ksankowski is a leg, but about a good effect.

I think it's good effects. I think there are certain statues that are not moved and some first tear when it is done. I'm glad I did it after the first tear. I also think that the whole picture with Buddha was so perfect when I made the famous movie, my first impression of MGP and Buddha and their cooperation, it was very strong. And it's gone now, because it was my first movie, so to speak, so to speak, investigative. And I made a lot of mistakes there. And just later, due to mutual consent, I took this movie down, because it was good by default,

but there were a few things there that would have destroyed me in the process, so it was better to take it off. But I've printed a few of these statues and monuments somewhere and then it works. I find it very useful. But just by the way, because I, again, highly appreciate Tomek Karolak.

He was our guest, I like him.

Great introduction to the program you gave, I really liked it. I was very happy, Tomek. It was a pleasure. I wonder what you were drinking for, I don't know. Tomek has a picture of a man who is a bit of a slob, loved by all the muses, from romantic comedies, and he doesn't pay the debt of his duties as a light-headed screw-up.

Which version of Tomka Karolak?

And Hama.

Who? And Hama. I would say that there is a split between the two, because there are many such opinions. And now tell me where the truth is, because I have a weakness for him again. My weakness, of course, also manifests in the fact that sometimes I joke with him, because we are all in the world, in which we go crazy without distance. Which image of Tomek?

Unfortunately, I only met the second one. And the fact that in the opinion of the guest I had interviews with, it was also from Tomek himself, because he contacted me, he said he would come to the interview, he would tell everything as it was, and so on. And then, of course, he was distracting, distracting, distracting, and then I find out from people from backstage, from the stars, from many other places where he is,

that he will destroy me in the process, that he will never go to me, that I'm just... stupid. Yeah, even worse. And I think he'll come to me. Where? I take the headphones, after what he says... But isn't that a criterion of some morality, honesty, that he doesn't want to come to you?

No, but he says to me, but after I hear it, I call him again, he says I'm going, but wait, but Tomek is known for it.

Who doesn't know Tomek like that? Is it good? Can we... It's very much his. Aha, OK. He should patent and sell applications. This is our House of Cards. I would like to now... Characters. There is Sankowski, who comes to you, right? Sadowski.

Sadowski, who says that Karol is guilty of money, right? Then Karol speaks completely elsewhere.

Then Stonoga appears and the affair with Adrianna Biedrzyńska's husband. Then Stonoga comes to you. Am I telling it right? Great. As far as I remember, Tomasz Karolak was also in the show with Tomasz Kamel. In my opinion, he was not. We also remember his story with money being taken

by his own girlfriend from a bank.

No scriptwriter. Moralists themselves.

A man from House of Cards, who wrote House of Cards, he would not have invented this connection. There is another connection. Czarnecki, who comes to you. It doesn't matter what his name is. Mr. Korczarowski. He hasn't been yet, but I think he will. But he will come for sure.

I haven't had a chance to meet him yet. There is Mrs. Schreiber. There is Minister Schreiber in the background. We also have some absurd history. Mr. Czarnecki, son of a well-known figure, a figure known from PiS, Mr. Ryszard, right? And now the question is, if those people who could in this real world, wife of a minister, right, son of an MP,

function, what is so tempting to come to you with all the respect and take off your panties and say that I have this, this, this and this at home, which I catch my head then, that they talk about such personal, private things. Explain this genre to me. Well, what we were talking about earlier, this desire for existence and the fact that they see, without filtering the truth, how much is in it,

they see these huge earnings in freakfights, they see this glitch of this fame that these freakfights give for big fights, they see the big conferences, they want to be there. Why did the Polish pope just go there? He's finished. But I don't know, they have such a great desire, they are like the darkness that is flying to this flame. Piotrek, I don't do that, so I won't answer this question. I use it because I'm very happy to listen to this it and in their opinion, they do well. Is it? We do not have to judge. Is there in your world, in the world of YouTube, a topic that everyone is talking about, that it should be touched, that it is important, that it is important for known people, some darkness, something that Sylwester Latkovsky did unsuccessfully for political orders?

Is there a topic that everyone is talking about and everyone is afraid to touch. No, no, no, that's why I think this YouTube is better. Because in your mainstream, celebrity world, I think there are a lot of stories that should be told, but there aren't. And what stories, for example? I don't want to shoot now. I've done a few interviews about this Rapsheski, about this sadistic rabbit.

These are just two characters. And then, after such a rabbit, I also have a full phone of DMs. That's why I see that these characters, that we don't know anything about them. That a person watches such a guy, 40 years in the SDM and he had a completely different image of how he reads, how he said to everyone at the hotel,

you hoes, go home, very culturally, let's say.

And that's what Tomasz said to whom?

Well, for example, the hotel receptionist or somewhere there, if you... But you have a lot of witnesses, right? People write to me like that, I don't say it was like that, I get such messages. And now, but there are a lot of such messages, and this hotel's staff, and somewhere... So it's a picture. It's a picture. And now you see this guy that others see on TV, and you see that he's not real. But this is Doda's case. Because in my opinion she's exactly the same.

Exactly the same. I won't forget how Doda, during all the concerts related to LGBT, that she's the queen, and when she saw me, she said, oh, it's that faggot, faggot, he's going there. Are there any boundaries? Well, she was the face of depression, speaking of Diana Shaffer, who was a mentally ill lunatic. Where are your boundaries? Would you invite Grzegorz Braun? No, I mean, no, I mean, when there were presidential elections, with a few candidates, of course I would. But no, for me, there are characters even from the internet, like maybe more... Kedzior will know, like Daniel McEagle or totally patho streamers,

which I wouldn't invite, it's also my limit. Would you invite Filipka?

Filipka? Such a rapper.

You wrote to each other warmly. No, Filipka was with me. Why are you unprepared? Of course I would invite him, I love him. I would invite him with passion. Yes, of course he was at my place. But do you have any border?

Of course yes. Listen, dear...

Filipek, you surprised me.

No, because I have this impression that in your world, in my world also differently, because I built this program on polarization between guests, that today the one who can cross these boundaries wins, and that's why he's the leader of the state today.

Stanowski, I think.

Although I'm saying a little bit, this foot in the cloak is already cramped, which he didn't have half a year ago. You say it with satisfaction. I'm not hiding. Recently, we were talking about Jolanta Rutowicz. When she appeared, I thought that someone was behind it, some mastermind, that it was a robot, that it was impossible at all. That it was the first example of artificial intelligence.

Yes.

Like the 40-year-old girl who stood in line in the state of Warsaw.

In Alternative 4.

Yes, in Alternative 4. Bończak was a famous designer. And tell me, do some people create their characters 100% and with premeditation they make fools of themselves, and then these YouTube doors close and they are exemplary fathers, mothers, wives, read books, go to the cinema and are completely on the other side of the barricade. Yes, but it's a rare case. I think that it's more often that they do stupid things with premeditation, but it's reflected in their lives that they somehow remain stupid. But there is a lot, there is a long-term scenario written in their heads, more than we see that someone will come and call someone, because it's starting to be, I will defend this theory a little bit, a little bit of wrestling. Because these characters are cutting each other, these conflicts are growing, this one from this family and so on.

Of course, in completely different boundaries, but it creates such a wrestling. And some people have a long-term idea, and some people just fall in there and there will be no fight for one thing. And that's why they don't understand it, because it will be a terrible collision with reality if he gets a bribe for a few tens of thousands of zlotys and totally destroys his credibility like Mr. Korczarowski or the Pope. Mr. Korczarowski, before meeting Mrs. Schreiber, was a consultant to Mr. Braun when it comes to campaigning.

He was one of the chiefs of staff there. He was a consultant to the chiefs of staff. He is a big fan of Mr. Grzegorz Braun Well, it's a child's play Listen, last question It's a pity There are people who say that you were a specialist in extorting money I don't know if I was a specialist, I managed to do it

The biggest amount? Oh The Polish Post? No, the Polish Post was 100,000 No, no, no

It's really a lot

The biggest? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I have to ask this question one last time. Please. But please, because we have to finish. But you'll pay for it. One sentence answer. For an hour. What did you think when someone attacked your apartment? First thought. First thought. Honestly.

I was, I am in total shock. I don't know if it's a hard thought. Damn, breakdown, fear. You know, I live there. suddenly two guys with an axe come in the middle of the night, and they're throwing, throwing acid at each other.

Did you think that someone did it on purpose?

Someone did it on purpose. I didn't think about it, I know that. And soon you will also find out the whole of Poland, on the internet and YouTube. Yes, but someone big? Every word has a meaning. But do the Siads lead more to the Friza team or to the Zero channel? Definitely to the Charles Korczar.

Okay, we'll see you again in a week. Tomek, dear reporter, was our guest.

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