THE CHARLIE KIRK CASE JUST GOT WAY WEIRDER | The Kyle Kulinski Show

Alright guys, so I have some updates for you here in the Charlie Kirk case and suffice to say it is getting Weird. I mean it was already weird But it's getting weirder. I think it's fair to say it's getting weirder and that's not just me saying it If you look on social media and see the reaction from across the political spectrum People are going Really?

Really? Okay. So let so let's go through it. The FBI, Kash Patel, they decided to release the correspondence, I guess via text message, between Tyler Robinson and his alleged lover. Now, they say trans lover, but it's still not set in stone that that's actually the case. We only heard that from the MAGA mom.

So, you know, I've seen speculation that they are trans, they aren't trans, they're a furry or something like that, but that's neither here nor there, but let me walk you through this. So they release it,

After reading the note, the roommate responded, What? You're joking, right? So, allegedly, You're joking right? So allegedly you have Robinson leaving a note under the keyboard or something and on that note he basically says like, it was me. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I wasn't going to pass up that opportunity. And so after reading the note the roommate responded, what?

You're joking right? Robinson says, I am still okay my love but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Yet shouldn't be long until I can come home. But I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.

I am sorry to involve you." The roommate says, "'You weren't the one who did it, right?' Robinson says, "'I am. I'm sorry.'

Roommate says I thought they caught the person Robinson says no They grabbed some crazy old dude then interrogated someone in similar clothing I had a plan to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after drop point shortly after but most of that Most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering roommate says why. Why did I do it?

Yeah, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence, going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully, they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it.

Roommate, how long have you been planning this? Robinson, a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it, but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don't want to chance it. Robinson says, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle I don't even know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about Prince

I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits didn't have the ability or time to bring it with I might have to Abandon it and hope they don't find Prince. How the fuck will I explain losing it to my old man? Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets? The fucking messages are mostly a big meme. If I see,

Notices bulge uwu on Fox News, I might have a stroke. Alright, I'm gonna have to leave it. That really fucking sucks. It's kind of incredible that somebody who planned out a crime and basically got away with it.

The only reason that this person was turned in is because their dad turned them in. If the dad didn't turn them in, they were basically gonzo. It was basically over, right? But that person who did this crime, got away with it, is in a text chain now going, Call me the crimes man. I committed crimes. Here's exactly how I did it. Here's where I left the evidence. I think I got away with it.

But sure, it was me. I did the crimey McCrimington. That's why they call me the crimes guy. Here's a detailed breakdown of how it went down and how I hid the evidence and what's going on moving forward and other people have pointed out to the my old man thing. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle.

My old man? Can we be serious here? That's not Gen Z lingo. Gen Z doesn't talk like that. He somehow knew everything, all the updates on the ground. Like you knew that there was an old guy that was taken into custody. You knew about the guy with the pellet gun who was taken into custody. So as you're running for your life, you're also what somehow

on social media checking all the updates but I thought he didn't even have social media we were told you even have social media. Alright so what's he getting like CNN alerts about the updates as he's running for his life he's checking every every wrinkle in the case that comes in. A lot of this smells fishy so and that's like I said that's across the political spectrum. You're getting this reaction. So first, let me give you this tweet I try not to be a conspiracy theorist

But I have a really hard time believing in a short text exchange the alleged shooter makes his confession Confirms location of the weapon confirms the type of weapon confirms. It was wrapped in a towel confirms his motive exonerates the decoy George Zinn It missed to the bullet engravings confirms the wardrobe change confirms how long he's been planning it, discloses the existence and location of a now-destroyed pre-written confession note, randomly tells his boyfriend that his dad is Die Hard Maga, as if he wouldn't already know that given the nature of their relationship, and is worried about his dad-slash-grandpa being upset if he doesn't come home with the rifle.

Not the fact that he just used it to mention a 22 year old terminally online zoomer using phrases like squad car drop point swept the area my vehicle till i died of old age my old man i'm sorry i just don't believe it so yeah i forgot i think there's a slightly longer like they released a little longer than what i just read for you and in that they had the thing about like he talks about how his dad is maga well this person would know that this This person would already know that. Randomly tells his boyfriend that his dad is MAGA, as if he wouldn't already know that. Okay. So that's one that I found interesting.

Here's another one. BrooklynDadDefiant. This guy is like totally resistance liberal pilt. He says, I don't believe the text messages were I know that no 22 year old writes text messages like this This feels like that Steve Buscemi skateboard meme. How do you do fellow kids? Yeah, that's that's another thing I forgot to bring that point up, but when you look at a lot of these texts he's sending fucking essays, bro He's sending essays first of all that's rare to begin with but second of all Especially if the the person is younger

They're not sending fucking essays via text messages. And the other thing is, this is probably the biggest point in my mind. Guys, we're talking about Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. That's who we're talking about is running the FBI. I don't trust those motherfuckers. I don't trust them at all. We know all they care about is getting the fucking brownie points and the adoration from the MAGA blob on social media.

And anything they can do to get that, they will do it. And so here, they're trying to, hey, we got the guy, wrap it up. Oh, look at this, look at this, these text messages he sent. So I told you, it's across the political spectrum. So you got people like Brooklyn Dad Defiant, he's a hardcore resistance liberal and then he got sloppy Steve. What's sloppy Steve saying? And as bad as this is presented in Utah, I'm not buying all of it. I'm particularly not buying those text messages.

It just seems too stilted, too much like a script, actually a bad script.

And I have to say, I'm even seeing non-political people say the same shit on social media. I'm seeing non-political people say the same shit on social media. I'm seeing non-political people go really Really? So look at this this person ran the alleged text messages through grok and chat GPT and asked the AI Hey, you know, what are the likelihood? What's the likelihood this is real and they both find the text messages between Tyler and his partner most likely fabricated now Look, I'm not out here speaking in absolutes. I'm not saying for sure that is the case or isn't the case.

I'm just saying, this is what they released and it's making a lot of people go,

huh.

Huh. That's weird. So look, the other part that you guys know I'm struggling to get over, and I'm curious if you guys are feeling the same thing, but, I am struggling to wrap my mind around two

decoys two diversions I really am the fact that there was an old guy screaming I did it I did it shoot me shoot me and so he gave the person time to get away the fact that that happened the fact that there was a guy with a pellet gun that looked like a real gun and he also took up time of the the officials law enforcement officials that's sketchy to me it's sketchy to me the story doesn't add up with him changing twice and also uh disassembling and reassembling the

weapon multiple times that also doesn't add up according to the official story he shot the rifle disassembled it put it in his backpack jumped off the roof ran into woods, then reassembled it and left it assembled.

That just doesn't add- that doesn't make sense to me. So, um...

This is what- this is what they dropped, this is what they say is the big update, but now I got some other updates for you from a different angle. So, Ken Klippenstein says the following. Exclusive, leaked messages from Charlie Kirk assassin. So he was able to talk to people who were part of the Discord group that Tyler Robinson was a part of. And so here's what he says, quote, Hey guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday.

Thus, Tyler Robinson messaged his friends on Discord, seemingly apologizing for murdering Charlie Kirk. I'm sorry for all of this. I've tamed this the legacy news media as usual refuses along with new information I've learned about Robinson from the people who knew him best Oh, I should also point out by the way that that the text messages that were released by the FBI You have a lot of legal experts who are looking at them going even if this shit is real You're fucking your own case by releasing it now That's what a lot of experts are saying. All right, so this is a screenshot. This is from Ken Clippin scenes reporting Charlie Kirk

Got shot dead. I just saw the video. Holy shit. Rest in peace. I guess bro didn't deserve to go out like that So that's the other people on the discord, you know board saying those things to each other, right? Zealous monkey chimes in this is supposed to be Tyler. Hey guys. I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this. I'm surrendering through a sheriff friend in a few moments. Thanks for all the good times and laughs. You've all been so amazing. Thank you all for everything. Trump and company portray the alleged Utah shooter as left wing and liberals portray him as right wing. The federal conclusion will inevitably be that he was a so-called nihilist violent extremist or NVE. Meanwhile, the crackdown has already begun as I reported yesterday the country is practically ready to go to

war. Quote, it's been so terrible and seeing it from an inside perspective is so frustrating a friend of Robinson's since middle school told me the childhood friend who asked not to be named for fear of threats provided me with the above non-public photo of Robinson on a camping trip a favorite activity of his to corroborate their relationship. Quote, I think the main thing that's caused so much confusion is that he was always generally a political for the most part, the friend told me.

That's the big thing. He just never really talked politics, which is why it's so frustrating. The picture that emerges bears little resemblance to the media version. Robinson, I am told, though quiet, was a well-liked person with a supportive family. The friend group who he interacted with on Discord, far from some kind of militia camp or Antifa bunker, it's been portrayed as represented a large or a range of different political views, but mostly talked video games. Yesterday, FBI Director Cash Patel said in

an interview that Robinson subscribed to left-wing ideology, citing his family's remarks to investigators, but those close to Robinson say there was a lot his family didn't know about him. Quote, their ideas are based on someone they didn't fully understand, the childhood friend told me. Though the family was generally supportive of Robinson, a claim corroborated by his mother's Facebook account brimming with praise for Tyler, they didn't seem to know about his relationship with a trans person named Lance, the friend said. When I asked if his family would have been accepting, the friend replied, I don't think even Tyler knew the answer to that question, which is why he kept it so low

key between themselves. Tyler's bisexuality, the friend said, was coupled with openness on LGBT issues, but his wasn't some cookie cutter lefty position on every or even most issues, his friend said. Obviously he's okay with gay and trans people having a right to exist, but also believes in the Second Amendment, that friend said, referring to the right to bear arms. The friend described Robinson as fairly typical of a young man his age from Utah. Someone who loved the outdoors, was a gamer, and into guns.

Quote, all of us, he just seemed like a simple guy who liked playing games like Sea of Thieves, Deep Rock Galactic, and Helldivers 2 love to fish and love to camp The friend said it didn't it really didn't seem like that's all he was about And then they have some more messages here. Helldivers 2 stuff The phrase inscribed on one of the bullet casings from the from the shooting Hey fascist catch though widely reported to mean he was a man of the left is in fact a reference to the Helldivers 2 game Three arrows initially believed by federal agents to be reference reference to Antifa are also a reference to Helldivers, private discord messages shared with me by

a friend of Robinson's confirmed that Robinson wasn't some political martyr, a search for posts of Robinson's containing keywords like Biden and Trump turned up just one hit each, the Trump post was a passing reference to the 2019 impeachment inquiry, the Biden one came on the day of the 2020 election, he provided an update to another friend asking about the status of the vote count. And so then here are those messages.

An impeachment inquiry has been placed against Donald Trump. He could get booted out if they find he committed the shit he's accused of. And then the Biden one is, who's winning the election? Who is winning the election? You would know. Biden is in the lead electoral votes wise but there are still some swing states that haven't finished voting as well as most of the west coast raw votes. Donald is in the lead by a little over 1 million votes and then that goes on a little bit.

The childhood friend is a member of multiple discord chats with Robinson. He described the group as trying to grapple with Robinson's motive just like everyone else. So that's the other thing is like all the people that are in in these group chats They're like mostly a political and they weren't in any way shape or form involved in like the planning of this or whatever and at the moment It looks like cash Patel in the FBI are basically trying to ruin the lives of all these people who knew him and who were In these these chat boards with him. This was not some like underbelly of the internet type shit

These is regular people largely a political just chatting about like video games or whatever. And so now, they're terrified. But, so, according to the friends, they're like, look man, he's largely apolitical, seemed like a normal dude and you know, he ended up doing this. That's what they say. Okay. Now I got another update for you. So as we discussed last time, um, you had, uh, it's alleged that Charlie Kirk was basically gonna turn on Israel, or he slowly but surely was turning on Israel. For example, he questioned whether or not October 7th was allowed to proceed by the

Israeli government. Basically saying, like, almost like an inside job to an extent, where they let it happen and there's like a stand-down order. He talked about that. He's agreed that Epstein was Mossad. But at the same time, most of his rhetoric was very, very pro-Israel for a very long time.

But according to a bunch of reports now, you have people who were saying that, leading up to his killing, Netanyahu had invited him to come to Israel. Netanyahu had invited him to come to Israel. Netanyahu had invited him to come to Israel. He rejected it. Netanyahu had offered to give like over a hundred million dollars to TPUSA.

That's his group, his youth conservative group. And he rejected it. He didn't want that money because he probably knew the strings attached to that are you gotta cheerlead our fucking genocide and pretend like Israel has done no wrong. Remember, Charlie had also invited like Dave Smith to one of his TPUSA events who's, you know, very critical of Israel. He's had Tucker Carlson and whatnot.

And so there were right-wing Zionists who were pretty pissed off that the Republican who leads the largest youth Republican group in the country was at the very least flirting with the anti-Israel position. Which, by the way, if you're representing young Republicans, you kind of have to do that, if not just be anti-Israel, because the polls show, among Republicans,

young Republicans are the most anti-Israel. So there was an article in the Gray Zone that laid all this stuff out, and now we have another one. Take a look at this. Billionaire Bill Ackman convened stormy Israel intervention with Charlie Kirk, sources say. A month before Charlie Kirk's killing, billionaire pro-Israel money money man Bill Ackman arranged an intervention in the Hamptons during which, sources say, he and others hammered Kirk for the conservative leaders growing criticism of Israeli influence

in Washington. Kirk came away fretting about Israeli blackmail, sources say, as he contemplated a Catholic conversion. So he was Protestant and you know the Protestants, the evangelical Christians, they're all hardcore Zionists. Think of like Mike Huckabee for example. I mean that guy is deep in that world of let Israel do whatever they want. It's the Holy Land. They want the rapture to happen. They want God to come back. And so Charlie was thinking well maybe I'll

become a Catholic and the Catholics there's some more room in Catholicism to criticize Israel than there is in being a Protestant All right Let's continue on September 11th one day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk billionaire pro-israel money man Bill Ackman took to Twitter To trumpet his relationship with the late conservative operative quote I feel incredibly privileged to have spent a day and shared a meal with Charlie Kirk this summer He was a giant of a man. The Gray Zone has spoken to five people with intimate knowledge of Kirk's meeting, five. According to one source,

Kirk was left upset after the gathering turned into an intervention where he was hammered for his increasingly skeptical views on the US special relationship with Israel and for platforming prominent conservative critics of Israel at TPUSA events. Since publishing this report, the Gray Zone has learned from one attendee of the Hamptons event that Ackman convened the influencers under the auspices of a discussion about Zoran Mamdani and the supposed threat he posed to the West if elected mayor of New York. But the

meeting went off the rails when Ackman personally confronted Kirk about his views on Israel. The public face of UK Lawyers for Israel, Natasha Hausdorff, joined in the argument and began screaming at Kirk according to the attendee when his host presented him with a detailed list of every offense He supposedly committed against Israel Kirk was horrified said one person Ackman also allegedly demanded Kirk Rescind his invitation for Tucker Carlson speaking at his upcoming America fest 2025 in December The whole thing was a disaster said an attendee the gray zone reported on September 12th

Setting a longtime associate of Kirk the Netahu had offered to organize a massive infusion of pro-Israel money into TPUSA and that Kirk refused. Another longtime friend of Kirk has told the Gray Zone that the conservative activist also rejected an offer Netanyahu delivered two weeks before his death to meet with him in Jerusalem. Kirk, according to one person with inside knowledge of the meeting with Ackman, said he left feeling as though

he'd been subjected to blackmail.

To blackmail. In a series of text messages with the Gray Zone, Ackman described these accounts of his meeting with Kirk as totally false.

He pledged to release a public statement providing his own account of the event, but refused the Gray Zone's request for clarification

or further details. He would not accept phone calls from this reporter.

Jesus Christ. I think I can easily put this to bed, Ackman promised. I have receipts as they say. He did not abide when asked to provide the so-called receipts. In an apparent bid to reinforce the pro-Israel tone at the Hamptons meeting, Ackman hosted a coterie of pro-Israel operatives and conservative influencers at the off-the-record engagement. One was Instagram influencer Xavier D'Urousseau of PragerU reached by phone by the gray zone Durousseau sounded flustered when asked about his presence at the meeting

He repeatedly demanded to know how the reporter obtained his number and eventually hung up refused to answer questions about the event Several Instagram posts by Durousseau show him and his friend conservative influencer Emily Wilson in the Hamptons on August 8th outside Topping Rose House a Posh hotel and restaurant in Bridge Hampton, New York. So these are like, these are like the D-list conservative celebrities. That's who these people are right here. And they ended up going on a trip to Israel where, uh, Xavier stood in one of like the UN food zones and started bragging about how much food there is there and how Israel's doing right by the people of Gaza

and it's Hamas who's stealing all the food. Meanwhile, not like less than a mile away from him you have Palestinians literally starving to death, but he's standing there doing fucking propaganda for the government that's starving Palestinians to death. Two weeks after the meeting, DeRusso was reportedly junketed on an all-expenses-paid trip, this is what we just discussed. He recorded an Instagram video denying that the population of the besieged Gaza Strip was experiencing a famine. The Grayzone received a

similarly agitated response from Wilson, known online as Emily Saves America, following a phone call in exchange of text messages in which this reporter asked her numerous times about her attendance of the meeting in the Hamptons. Wilson refused to comment. Instagram photos placed her in the Hamptons at the same time as Durusso. CJ Pearson is another one, a leading youth coordinator for the RNC, immediately referred the Grayzone to his communications director when asked if he attended the Hamptons gathering. So we scroll down, Seth Dillon was there, Xavier Durruso was there, there's the video

of him denying that there's famine in Gaza, doing Israeli propaganda, you have CJ Pearson here as the other guy, so these are just some of the D-list conservative influencers who were seemingly at this event. As the Grey Zone reported on September 12th, Kirk was besieged with angry calls and messages from pro-Israel donors to his organization following TPUSA's Student Action Summit this July in Tampa. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had also phoned him according

to a longtime friend of Kirk and offered to orchestrate a massive infusion of pro-Israel money. A longtime-time friend of Kirk told the Grayzone the mounting pressure had left him angry and frightened. Kirk vented about the pro-Israel intimidation campaign in an August 6th discussion with Megyn Kelly, a former Fox News host, who was also growing more critical

of Israeli influence in Washington. It's all of a sudden, oh, Charlie, he's no longer with us. Wait a second, what does with us mean exactly? American, okay? I represent this country." The more that you guys privately and publicly call our character into question, which is not isolated, it would be one thing if it were just one text or two texts. It is dozens of texts. Then we start to say, whoa, hold the boat there. Kirk continued, to be fair, some really good Jewish friends say, that's not all of us, but these are

leaders here. These are stakeholders. He went on, I have less ability to criticize the Israeli government than actual Israelis do, and that's really really weird." Kirk delivered his comments around the same time as the tumultuous meeting in the Hamptons with Ackman and the crew of pro-Israel influencers. A month earlier, Kirk had opened the stage at TPUSA Student Action Summit for a cathartic outpouring of frustration and rage about Israel's political hammerlock on the Trump administration. As the conference speakers from Carlson to Kelly to the anti-Zionist Jewish comedian Dave Smith slammed Israel. Alright so this goes on here guys. You get the point and here's the thing Netanyahu he would view Charlie Kirk as like uniquely positioned

to help Israel moving forward because Netanyahu knows you lost the Democratic base they're gone they hate you it's like 7% approval for a guy like Netanyahu from the Democratic base if not less than that right so you Democratic voters, you're losing a lot of Democratic politicians. You own the Republican Party and 83% of Republican voters still support Israel. But, there's one demographic of Republicans that does not support Israel. Young Republicans.

Well, young Republicans are the future. Netanyahu's concerned about the future. Hey, if we have none of the Democrats on our side, and now it's a majority of young Republicans who are also against Israel, well, it would be a very uniquely important figure would be the figurehead of the young conservative movement, and that of course is what TPUSA represents, like the youth wing of the Trump-MAGA-Republican propaganda arm. And for that guy to be, you know, questioning Israel more and more by the day, it certainly is the case that they're saying, okay, hey, we'll give you all this support if you're with us.

Hey, come visit Israel. We'd love to have you. Hey, here's over $100 million we want to give you. And he says no to the trip and he says no to the money. And he felt like he was getting fucking berated and chastised by these pro-Israel billionaires who are trying to pull rank on him and basically say like, Hey, you got to fall in line and do your job here. You could see how Netanyahu and these these hardcore Zionists, they would want somebody who is more

pro-Israel in that position. You can see how that would be the case. Now, does that mean Israel was the one who did it? No. To this point, there's zero hard evidence to that fact.

There's only this circumstantial stuff. But I'm still in the same position I was on day one of this thing, bro. Where I'm more confused than ever. I'm more confused than ever. The official story makes no fucking sense. The official story makes no sense. The fact that there were decoys and diversions there on the ground. The fact that he changed clothes multiple times, put together a rifle and took it apart multiple times.

They didn't even bother trying to explain the discrepancies in their story. They just sort of leave it as is and hope you swallow it whole. And then at the same time, you know, we're getting stuff about very powerful people who were having an issue with Kirk. Now the counter argument to what I'm saying is of course that Charlie Kirk was like, you know, to that point he was like 90%, 80-90% massively pro-Israel. You know, like basically cheerleading almost everything they did.

He went, he like ranted about how Palestinians are not starving. Um, he made jokes about how, oh, Palestinians throw gay people off a ruse, but guess what? There are no more high buildings in Gaza anymore, so I guess they can't do it anymore. Like, loathsome. Loathsome stuff. But, at least according to the reporting, he was turning.

Right? He was turning, he was questioning it, he was not comfortable with it, felt like they were blackmailing him. So, it's an open question. It's an open question It certainly looks like a professional job to me, but that doesn't mean it was them right that does not mean it was them I've seen people wildly speculate that you know this was this was from the CIA and this was from the Trump regime and Again, no evidence for that either, but I'll tell you I'll tell you one thing for sure And this is the part where I hope everybody can agree I for the life of me, I do not fucking trust Cash Patel, I do not trust Dan Bongino, I do not trust any of these, uh, hardcore MAGA influencers,

these podcasters who are now running the FBI, after they fired all the actual experts at the FBI who know what the fuck they're doing, you kick those people out, right, and then you're running the investigation, and we got these stories with 17,000 holes in it. Holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through. Okay, so... I don't know what's going on, but I know, uh, there's something fishy happening. Hey y'all, do me a favor and like and subscribe. It helps out big time in the algorithm.

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