The New Season Fan Debate Special | Part One

I have a small objection to fight against the decline every year because it was two seasons.The others we talked about.No, let me finish.How?He is back with me, with our faithful followers.How has it been?

Good summer, friend?

Good summer.

Or yes, even after that it was net and fail.What are you doing?

That was, that was, that was the last one he wanted to talk about.That was spring.

Or was it spring?

Oh, okay.Yes.I say yes.Canja, as you have seen, yes, it looks good.It is what the original club was, so we have returned ...

It will fit you.

I think it's a huge signing.I think it also fits like a ring on the finger.Someone ...

I just want to bring Scott, and the reason is that I think the Newcastle team he built, Eddie Howe, was fantastic.Energy and rhythm.But Newcastle fans loved Guimaraes, and they see him every week.Scholes, so what's so special about him?What do you think?Obviously it's something of yours and probably of a similar player that gets into the ball and tries to dictate things in the midfield.

It's not hard for me.Well, I talked about Tonali before.It's probably January, so I would love for him to come to United, being part of three.I love the midfield in Newcastle.I think those three, I think you could have chosen them and take them to practically any team in the Premier League or all over Europe.I didn't think they were that good.

Now, it's Declan.The right one for him, he's also going to have to do it every week.In Newcastle, sometimes it's likely that you can get away with yours.Maybe you have to do it three times in five games.But in Arsenal, as a champion, you have to do it all the time.

there is always someone willing to take your place.

To debunk that, in two different times, most of the time.Well, half could be Bryce, Bruno, that one.And then I could change a little more to the defensive, with a little more energy in the midfield, like Lewis Miley or someone like that.I think what Bruno will do is that he will make the game progress more than Subhamendy or Declan Rice.I think he is someone who will look forward, will try to break lines, will score.He should score up to 10 goals for Arsenal.

I think Larssen really lost last year.I don't think TheClanRaise will make your team play football well.I don't think he will make it.I think, as you said, they are good at that.But I think Bruno Guimaraes will make you improve with the ball.I agree.

I want to say that I'm very curious to see how he does it.I know he's a good player, but sometimes, as fans, we all have an opinion about a player, but everyone around you tells you that he's better than what you see.It's to see how he does it, because I've been wanting to see a little more.I'm worried about the type of energy he shows on the field, he's a good player, but I wanted to go back to something specific that you just mentioned.You mentioned Vinicius Jr's disappointment, did you ever think it was realistic or do you think it really was?It was crazy.

Vinicius Jr would leave Real Madrid to go to Arsenal.

It makes me think that.Arsenal is the Premier League champion.Arsenal is going to compete for the Champions League like we did last year with a couple of goals to win it.And Vinny had the opportunity to come to London, which is a big city, play in a huge club, be the visible face of that club and potentially become an absolute hero in the best league in the world.He chose to stay in Madrid, which was the easiest option and probably the best, but Arsenal never had the intention of paying that kind of salary, or did you think they would?

You had a start because many young players do not doubt their quality at all, they are the best players in the world.That's why we were in their favor.Nunqueva, he used you for a contract.Are you sure you can admit it?Of course he would have used us in the contract negotiations.Why would he want Arsenal?

Don't you think?No.Someone here, seriously.No.Someone at that moment should say, he thought that was going to happen.Why wasn't it going to happen?

I really don't know what to say.You don't know anything about what to say, Cooper.I just didn't see it.Madrid.Madrid is the biggest club in the world, right?Not the most.

Of course.And you can't compete if you're already in them.It's incredible.I have nothing against Arsenal, but they wasted what they had on the table.

They wasted it completely and made him an offer that he simply could not reject, but he did.But he rejected it.What do you mean?It means Real Madrid.I don't mean anyone.You mean that.

And Real Madrid.I think they're giving him more than 600 ,000 a week, but at first they didn't even want to give him that much.So, of course.Paying that, surely.I think he apparently accepted personal terms and was willing to come, but unfortunately he went to a meeting, left the meeting and agreed to join Madrid.

I don't say that Arsenal should not have tried to sign him, or you know, if there had been an opportunity.

Even a 10 % chance that you would try because he is one of the best players in the world.When you say it was a disappointment, I simply felt that it was always one of those things that I think we've seen before, right?With other clubs at different times, with the players.But a player who is probably at the opposite end of that scale, I just want to ask you about a story that has come out in the last few days and that has really surprised me.The one of Miles Lewis is Kelly.Now, where did it come from if it's nonsense?

if it's true, I don't know, but I saw that they asked Arteta about that, after I think he played against him like last night in the friendly.It didn't come out, he almost just resisted, he didn't come out and said that this is nonsense, that he was our boy, that he was here, he was here, and only for how well he played in the middle of the field last season in the semifinal and in the final I can't even believe that this is it.So there must be something there, I mean, what do you think?

There is no smoke without fire.I really think it depends because, as an academy player, you can get an incredible benefit from him, but I think he has the highest ceiling in the squad, if not the highest.He's very versatile.He's from Arsenal, he's been in the club for years, he knows it perfectly, and he's only going to improve more and more.So for me it doesn't make much sense.Personally, I think we'll keep him.

But I can see from his perspective, you know, bringing a Bruno, having Reiss, Merino, Subi, Mendy, where is his future.

Do you think it depends on him or the club?That's what I find a little strange.It seemed almost as if the story was that Arsenal and United would have offered Masluis Skelly.It wasn't that Masluis Skelly said he wanted to leave, or that his people said something.And that's where the surprise came from, not so much from the player himself.

I'm not going to speculate, but you know my instinct tells me that it's probably a bit of both.Do you think he's going against...Sorry Jamie, we don't really know what it is.Left back?Is it central?Well, look, that could play in his favor, of course he could cover any position.

I think that could play a little against him, since he has Subimendi.as the center of the field.Now, I prefer that Maitland -Niles play in the center of the field instead of Suimini.I think Suimini had problems last year.So I think if a player you're going to get rid of would be him, the problem he has with his role as a left back is that until last year he basically played with four central defenders there.

And he almost did it this year.

He left the side as a left -back quite early in the season and did not have much time, he left for a while and then obviously towards the back ended up being a starter in a Champions League final and you know, not only did he stay firm.I thought he was one of our best players, so again, I think it's him.I think he's 20, 20 or 19, 20.Are you worried that Arsenal will let someone like that go because they are going after other players?It seems that now many clubs let those who are emerging go.Because I heard you say something that worries me a lot as a fan, but it's true, but it's as if we were going to get a lot of benefit because he's a great goalkeeper and that.

As a fan of Arsene, you must believe that those guys are on the team.I wouldn't sell it, I wouldn't sell it, but hey, I don't know, finances.It happened to me a bit when Welbeck left Manchester United, they didn't like it.Probably Dani was a little older than Mason Greenwood, but when you lose your own players, those who have emerged and know the history of the clubs that bring young players, it's disappointing.I still can't say that last season wasn't very good for him throughout the season, but I think I think when a young player is already doing performances like the ones I've seen him do in the Bernabéu, I think even a year or 18 months ago, the left back went to me and directed the game like in the Bernabéu.I thought, what do you mean that he used performance in the final as a midfielder against PSG?

I thought, you can't play that level unless you're quite older, at that age.Well, okay, all young players have ups and downs.Last season he didn't play as much as he probably would have liked.But as you just said, the ceiling is so high for the performances that he has already done as a 20 -year -old kid that I couldn't believe that Arsenal would even think of letting him go.Let me ask you a question.Do you think that in cases like this, social networks and the noise of the field would influence Arsenal's final decision?

For example, yesterday when they read the name...No, I don't think so.

I don't think so.Yes, but you want your club to work.club to make decisions, adequate decisions that don't let you influence, whatever those decisions are, that don't influence you in the fans, you know?You want your coach to make important and bold decisions sometimes, but this gives the feeling of being a strange choice.But continuing with Arsenal, the champion, one of the reasons why you were champion was because you were very good at standing ball plays.And there has been a lot of talk about standing ball plays for a long time at Arsenal.

A repression clearly did not occur.And obviously there was a lot of controversy.So you can't make a foul before the ball is played.Now, IFAB has analyzed this and basically said that now the referees can intervene.And we saw it in the World Cup.In some games, some goals were canceled by force of gravity before the ball was kicked and then they had to repeat the corner or the free kick.

And I think we'll see when Howard Webb makes his announcement about the plans for this season in a week if he makes it clear that in fact the referees are going to adopt a much firmer position this season.

General, do you think there is something to do with standing ball plays?It's just a kind of trend, as if everything had ups and downs.In the end, the application of the norm is as important as the rule itself.Every year we have something new.

That only happens in Newcastle and then...

They do it for the first two weeks and then, as it is so difficult to apply and it is so difficult to maintain coherence, they simply return to the average.As if the balls played standing up and the fight they are seen to disappear when they cease to be effective.And that is more or less what we will see next year.

Wouldn't it end with the ball the moment you put it on the ground?So you know that instead of saying, well, I haven't kicked it yet.You know, if that was the rule, the moment you put it on the floor, I'm dragging it, because I've written some bad things about it.Now, if I'm pulling it, then it's a penalty because I've grabbed it, because you put the ball.If you have the ball here, maybe you know everything, but the moment it's on the floor, because what I want to say, I don't like anything, I think that probably all of us, when there's...happening now, is that sometimes there are probably more than 15 players for 16 or 17 in the small area.

It's a nightmare for goalkeepers to achieve that.And many of those have happened, and I think we have to get to a situation in which a referee, when you see all this fuss, it seems to me that the situation of rugby is not like football.And I know that, as clubs, we all want to, and simply getting those small earnings.But for me, now that I see each player standing, and at 16 and 17, it was Liverpool.So I'm going to talk to you, Gareth.I think you mentioned in the show what was left.

We've already overcome that.Where do you think Liverpool is right now?With a new coach, but also with the squad.I saw you on your social media a week ago or so, quite furious.A great clip that went viral.Did it change your mind?

The truth is no.You know, we have a fight, right?I would be interested to know what you think.Think about it.Obviously, as you yourself have been a defender, I think that signing has its pros and cons.For me, this indicates that they are depositing all their hopes in the young central defender they have right now.

Basically, they say we don't want to bet everything on another big one.Let's go for one that is a bit risky.There is no commitment to signing him, but it could be fine.They're not going to go out and buy a crack and say, there you have it.There are many who are still worried about Liverpool.You know what we just talked about, that they lose regularly in play -off games, that they harass him a bit physically and things like that.

That was repeated last season.And although we have added someone in a position that has height, Soboslay also has height.Sigo preocupado por el medio campo y por si tenemos suficiente físico ahí.Me habría gustado que hubiéramos fichado cuadradas en agujeros redondos en bastantes puestos de la plantilla.Creo que el problema del medio campo es que..still a big problem for Liverpool.

I've seen all the preseason games, but I lost the last two against decent rivals.I think it was last season that there seemed to be space in the entire midfield of Liverpool.That has not disappeared at all.And I think that only goes to Emperor.

With the deployment of Sobozlay in the midfield, it seems that they are really going to play, instead of being a 10, that they are going to play as a central midfielder, along with Gravenberch on the right.

And that's pure life, and back to total.And I look at those three midfielders, and I worry about Liverpool again.When you name 6 or 7 players from Liverpool, you can't say they're not the best.

You know, you can't say that Real Madrid is a really good player.They have a really good line -up.

But as a midfielder, I do think, oh no, too much quality, almost too much, but everyone wants to go out and play and run, even in preseason, and that space is opening up step by step with the midfield.But the reason why I think it was interesting is that I listened to Neil Atkinson and Josh Distance covered it.I know that these are two guys that, obviously in the podcast, are very good in Liverpool and were debating yesterday about a destructor.Now, at this level you want both, you talk about Liverpool and one of the clubs, but I'm worried that they say that you have to choose a forward, but I agree a little more with you in that, what sense?Does he have McAllister?If he's not your forward because he doesn't run everywhere, he's supposed to sit in the midfield and dictate as such.

He's probably a slightly different player, he's not just a number 6, pure and hard, as you mentioned.What happens is that the first team.So, are you telling me that Liverpool's central midfield will be made up of McAllister and Sobozlay?You've played with two, like a 2 and a 1.Yeah, it's just that...Yeah, and the only one that...

I don't remember, well, he brought him specifically as number one.And then they turned him into number six.Well, that's not his position as an expert, right?He likes to be ahead of everyone else.It can also be seen when he plays for Holland.Even last season, both he and Slot in a more retarded position, that is not what he naturally wants to do.

He has done everything well there in the past, but he was not the best scorer in Liverpool.I understand that it is difficult to get someone who is like that, but at least get someone who performs in the right wing.

He already I mentioned it a week ago and I think it's being negative, but I was interviewed on Sky and I was asked if vaccines would be the substitute for Salah and his left.And we already have three.I'm not saying they're good enough or that I don't want a vaccine, because if we could get Gakpo out and bring a vaccine, we would have two young players and maybe Rio could go to the right.But in the last preseason game of Liverpool, it almost looked like he was going to be a starting eleven.The far right was the young player Comas, who is not even what I would call a squad player right now.He may be next season, but he's almost like a little boy.

Do you think it's so obvious that Liverpool doesn't have an extreme right?

Do you think it's how this happened?

It's like...

And that's what we're seeing right now.And it's as if people were getting excited again with Isaac, with Verdi, with Sam Maximino.We've seen some small green sprouts in these friendly ones, in which we were finally able to get the numbers you expected from them, given the disbursement and their quality.But I'm watching and I know it's worth it.It may be a bit like seeing the glass half empty, but I think, well, what if Isaac gets injured?Or if Isaac has to leave at 75, who's going to be on top?

And it's probably Kumás, who I like.I like his effort and dedication.But in terms of quality, I think you saw it in the friendly the other day.He had occasions or his last pass was not quite right.He's already making rounds in the championship and he's also done well.But this is at the same level, right?

And it's like, you know, there should be someone better fully equipped on the left side.I mean, you're fully equipped, but they're not at the level of those you've had in a day.Really?How was that day in Hull City last season?I would say that if you play in Liverpool, you're in a little trouble.Not even me, it's not even an extreme for me.

All his best games with us were in the middle when we had to see no problem.

But that's something that Gareth Zogdi mentioned.He put me in the place that f***ed me.Well, he can't.He really can't start.No, you know.

Kuna is like, he's probably on the edge of the world class level.It's probably pretty crazy.

Yes, well, I'm just saying that it's better than what you have.You have a lot of players on that side.Exactly.But we thought about it, and I go back to the central midfield, Izov, Sobozlay, it will probably be the vice -captain of millions.It's not that I'm trying to create a combination, but I think in eight weeks, in a park, the center of the Liverpool field, I just look at it and I think it's open, all the players want to go up and play, so you have to give it all the opportunities you can.I've always had the feeling that Viets would end up on the left.

Now, if they recover the goal, that won't happen, but I've always had in mind that Viets would play on the left with Germany.It's not an extreme left, but it's in that area.It's in that pocket, so to speak.

I know it's a 100 -million -dollar coin, but it seems like a small problem.

I think it's a...I keep thinking that...The coach doesn't say anything.I think the way you talk about how you know, how to look at your midfield, that's what you're talking about, that's what you're talking about.

I agree.It could end up being more likely to be your past.

But then, on the contrary, it happens to me as if it were something like that.

Well, it's from Jesus Christ.I wouldn't mind playing with him.

It's hard for me to see how those three midfielders, who are all really good players individually, are a midfield of three, which makes Liverpool compete again for the title.I'm not sure.But we're going to go out and change it in the next two weeks.Two or three weeks.

Apart from that, we're fine.What do you mean?Yes, apart from that.They're all great.Yes, I mean, it seems like it's imminent.

And these are two of the richest people in the world, Jeff Bezos.India and well, yes, they are valuing the club in 6 million pounds and they are going to take 33%.I said millions, being incredibly attractive for this type of investors with a lot of money.But also, if you have these incredibly rich people, if investment is required, they will have the deepest pockets you can imagine.

Maybe the deepest pockets if you have Adam Nexen.We will bring Adam.My pockets are not that deep.But you know, when you said in the past, before these rules came in, If what you were talking about there, your fans were basically excited.I mean, what does that mean in terms of having the richest guy due to the current rules?How could Liverpool benefit if that guy is one of the richest?

For more money they are allowed to do it to a certain limit without breaking the rules.And even if you break the rules, we have seen it with the UEFA, you only have to pay a fine.Well, I lost this, I think Chelsea, Aston Villa, Newcastle, they all paid fines.For the UEFA, it's like a luxury tax.So if you want, now it will be much more flexible to put money from the owners in comparison with the PCR.

Valegarret, before we get to that, what do you think about it?

Yes, I am concerned about Jeff Bezos in particular.If we look at Amazon and its practices and what they think of the unions and the workers and all that kind of thing, I don't think he's a person who cares about communities, who cares about football fans, culture, all those things we've talked about, so much about affordability, that it wouldn't be the case for him to come, or for any multimillionaire, or anyone.

And no one can do anything about it.

However, what I would like in these circumstances is for these investors to talk.Why do you want to come to Liverpool?What are their plans to get free?Most of the comments seem to be that someone like this is not going to get there and settle for being a minority investor.This is the end, the beginning of the end of FSG.FSG has had its critics, including me, but it has also made many mistakes and will say, it does not bother me. I mean, you know, for the people who care about journalism, if you see what it has done while it was the owner of the Washington Post, it is incredible.

And sad, basically, to obtain political benefits.And it has destroyed an institution So, why do I want that guy near Liverpool Football Club?

It's time to play the games that left, the ones that come back, that Skybet brings to you.Flav and Justin, as well as Adam Cleary, whom I see a lot on my social media, are doing a great job.And well, you're doing it.Today I'm Debbie.Thank you for joining us and for being here.Scolese is with me, obviously.

Do you have a new board?Oh, Scolese, yes.I bet you'll get excited.Along with some topics to discuss today.So, Scolese, if you look at the back of the board and decide what you would like to present.

The paintings fill from below.

So, do you think you like it or not?

What to do?Well, games.Games.We have to do it.Back to games.Back to back.

I have very firm opinions about this.Great.Skolicy.Don't be Skolicy.It's not even a month.

Brilliant.

Don't be Skolicy.There we have it.They do it in Totem.

Yes, yes, obviously we have them in the stall.But I think you're talking about the essence of the game.It's not GameSpark, right?As if you were in the game, really.

And they did it from below and you didn't have to pay.You didn't have to pay.It's chronometrical and you just donate them.It takes us 10 seconds.It makes you go back to the explanation much faster.Yeah, but it's not like you go to the Spurs and everyone talks about it.

Like, after what?What are you talking about?After the first month, it's like, just bring us another pint.It's like...But fast.It makes you go back to your seat faster.

Yeah, but it's not...It's not like that.It's a game that...It's not a game.You can't waste time being a queue.

It's...Another source of income.Take a pint as fast as you can.Take as many as you can.

With a good...More time than that.Someone did it manually from...From wherever you can.It must.That's what we don't want.

We want to win.But at that moment, it's your stadium.Your stadium is to blame for this.Yeah, yeah.I'm with you.I think you should have it.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yesYou never did that.You never celebrated an entry in your life.The thing is that, of course, what I think is that you make an entry that goes to corner.You don't celebrate that you could score, but you celebrate, you clear the line.You make a desperate entry at the end of the game and you make a last attempt just when you're about to shoot.

Surely it's worth celebrating.

In the same way, you could score a great goal.

You could score a great goal to win the game.

I'm not a big fan of players who...

It's embarrassing if they just do it.Performative.For the public.It's for social relations.No, it's not.

I'm not going to see it.

I'm the public and I like it when they do things for the public.Do you love that, Jiménez?That offends me, yes.He loves playing for the public, right?Another one?Yes, let's go for the next one.

Tournament trophies?Preseason trophies?No.Yeah, well, that can happen.

We have a great star.I've seen it.That's another lost game.We need champions.

Are you saying that the game doesn't exist anymore because you won a couple of real trophies?Or did you win one for real?What was it?

Preseason, when we won one a few years ago and the trophy was bigger than you can imagine, it held it.You're not picking up the evidence.

Mourinho counted them as trophies, right?

Great.Charity Shield?I like the Charity Shield and I like the Ace of Hearts trophy.It was pretty good.I think I'll be fine in general.

What do you think of the community shield?Because we obviously have it on the weekend.I'll tell you.We never did it, I don't think.No, but I'm telling you that the senators are here.special.

They were foreign coaches, and you know what?Mourinho took advantage of it a lot, but who values it was, this is a trophy, this is a trophy.

Now, I still wouldn't have classified that medal as I won the Charity Shield, but all I would say is that he put us in a mentality that each game was like the Super Cup, but I remember when we had Gerard Huller, he said, no, this is a trophy, this is a great party, this is something European.And although I did not totally agree with it as such, gave us a mentality that you wanted to win every game, you know, that kind of thing.And I think it has become, I think last night watching it, I want to say, I was happy when we won the Europa League, so that tells you, you know, the relevance of money.So that destroyed me.

No, I think it was something very English, especially in the Super Cup.

I insist, we treat yours as a friendly game, as another preseason.The fact that you are there is something good for what you have done to get here.But when you lose it and you see the other team, you are going crazy.But what is happening?

They are going crazy and what is happening to us?

The difference between the winners of the Europa League and the Champions League is huge, right?It's not even worth it to play it.I saw Spurs play last year and we played against a broken PSG, which was still slightly better than us at night.And we felt...Do you know what it meant for PSG?It's a little weird.

Next.

Our game is back.

The game is back.Yeah, so they're not here.Yeah, so...Brentford!Yeah!I used to do it.

I used to do it.Volviendo a hacerlo, hacerlo.

Directamente.Well, I think it works as if the equipment manufacturer makes money with sales.So, the reason why they pay so much to make the equipment is for the club.I think doing that is a great gesture.

Yes.Who does that or not?A couple of different competitions include it just to create an atmosphere and generate a little more excitement.

Did you go to the United States or have you seen that?In the United States they fill a pint from below.A countdown to go to the United States.Besides, did you leave the MLS?Oh, okay.I left it behind.

Don't tell B. The best thing I remember is the League Cup game when Newcastle played against Manchester United and the fans in the Outrafford field made a countdown until the 90th minute and then there was a disconcerting noise in the stadium when the game didn't end.

The last one.Goal music.It actually existed for years.It's not a modern launch, but it's up there.I don't remember everything, but I can't remember anything.

You don't count with this music, do you?

I discard it mentally.I'm not a big fan.The game is over.The game is over.

I remember going to the reserve game, right?I'm sure it was for nothing for us.Liverpool scored and scored two goals very quickly and they couldn't.That's what I mean, we shouldn't have known.but they couldn't get the song back.What's it called?

It was Game.Game.I think having that with you should be easier than scoring on the pitch.And that's all.That's the debut of Games Gone, Games Back, presented by Skybet.

Okay, Adam, we'll visit you and obviously well documented and I should say, debut, welcome to the show.

Adam, a big fan of Newcastle, does a great job on social media analyzing Newcastle and other clubs, but you just had Gareth on the only boat of the possible new owners of Liverpool.At what point are you right now with the Saudi investment in Newcastle?Do you think about it?

It's their best season since they took over the club, because obviously we are in a unique position, especially in the context of recent years.The free that there is in Mii is a very exciting summer due to the amount of development that is going to happen and the young players who sign the new coach.But the fan that there is in Mii is really worried about where we are right now in terms of what we have lost.Like the players who leave in terms of the capacity they lose, the goals they lose, the creativity they lose, that is really obvious.But Newcastle has a group of leaders in the club that has been fundamental to allow them to play above their level for a few seasons.And from that group, Jamal Lacerde has left, Kieran Trippier has left, and Bruno has also left.

Therefore, the leadership environment in the club is suddenly an important concern.Therefore, this is a very important summer for the owners to do it well, because simply replacing three established for a lot of money with young players who want to develop, that is an exchange of brilliant players.Of course, that is what everyone is supposed to do at our level, but the environment in the club is something that you cannot expect to be magically fixed overnight.As if we didn't know what the group of leaders will be like.We don't even know who will be the captain of the club next season.We don't even know who Yacine will be.

In terms of involvement in the club's management.So it will be really interesting to see what they decide to do from here until the market closes.Because not only the absence of goals is what they must supply.Not only do you have to replace quality players.You also have to take into account the personalities.The environment in the club is as in the air as the initial 11.

It's curious.I think you're always surprised when a coach leaves in preseason, but you felt that the end had come in some way.I always had the feeling that this team was going to disintegrate this summer.I've said it before and I'll say it again.It probably hasn't happened to you because you've had a lot of success all seasons, but I remember that when a team reaches a certain level and can't go further, there are players in that team who can.And it happened to us in Liverpool, with a team from Rafa Benítez, that we were reaching the semifinals of the Champions League, competing for the league.

As soon as we had a season in which we declined and reached a kind of fifth or sixth place like Mascherano, Alonso Torres, and no, we are money players, we are not rebuilding Liverpool, we left.And at that moment I felt frustrated as a player, but I understand it.I understand it when I look at the situation of Newcastle, Nali, Guimaraes, they were better than the team.I think the team and the players have to grow together and as soon as one falls or the club, the players leave.It was that one, it was that one.It was always expected with the fans that you were going to have a rotation and that this team would have won.

The trophy arrived in the Champions League, it couldn't go any further and it was almost a reconstruction job again.

I want to say, I don't want to speak for any of the fans in this, but I always send hope that the players accompany you on the trip.They are as committed to this as you are, and if you have a bad season, they will react, they see it as their responsibility to fix it, because in the end they are the ones who are on the field, but we all know that this is not how it works in reality.The reason why there is something like this,again, as if the fan that is in me was deeply concerned about where we are in the transfer market and with the squad, but the reason why there are reasons for the excitement is because this is the first summer in which we have been good sellers.We have had an incredible streak as buyers, especially since the new property arrived.We have not failed a single transfer until last season, and even some of them still have a lot of development margin, they still have a lot of development margin.

They may end up being good long -term signings, but our success rate when bringing players was incredible.Each time during three consecutive signing windows.So there is always the recognition that we are going to have to stop being able to transfer players and bring players to develop them, but I think even in what is the opposite of the wildest dreams, the worst nightmares, the worst nightmares.Nobody expected, oh, we will probably get a good price for Gordon, and then for Tonali, and then for Bruno, and the manager will leave.That's why the fact that all this has arrived in a summer is very hard.It's very hard emotionally, especially when the players you replace are exciting.

But I don't know how many Newcastle fans saw Sean Longstaff a lot last year or know Bamba well.They are players who have to show that they are at this level.They are going to have to develop at this level and wait for them to arrive and start working immediately.Ridiculous.

Well, as we always say, the signing is important.The signing is huge.I don't think you did well last season.Now, in the next three or four weeks, you have to trust that they will redefine this type of jewelry.

Well, this is something like the issue that the transfer of players is as much about selling as buying.It's a depressing situation, but the reality is that when you see how brutal this summer has been by losing three players, the smartest way to do it would have been, well, when Liverpool arrived for Anthony Gordon a few years ago, when we had the problems of the PSR, you didn't really sell Elliot Anderson or Ajanku Aminte and you sold Gordon because you had developed him.And we just got more or less the same money from Barcelona that we would have gotten two or three years ago.so it was clearly in its maximum value.In LeoThunderZone we got a Stainless Steel.for him.

There was clearly room for him to develop as a player.So the best transfer of players would have been to sell Gordon and keep those two players.The best transfer of players would have been to transfer Bruno to Manchester City when he was in the middle of his entourage.But the ineffective transfer of players, which is what it was, gave me the best afternoon I'm going to have as a Newcastle player, as if that were the product of staying with the consecrated players instead of transferring them, I know, as if taking the short -term route instead of the long -term route.

However, you see why he had to leave.He hoped he would do well.Formed.Part of that recruitment over the years, suddenly these players, these brilliant players, are really good and stand up.Stand up, stand up, stand up.You can understand why he left.

And look at the disappointment he caused, because obviously he's thinking, I can't improve more than this.How can I improve?

I don't think it's necessarily that his players were selling.It's like he would have had to work with...It's not like without each transfer window he would have gotten what he wanted.It's like if Tonali had arrived three years ago.We didn't sign another player from the first team.Until last summer.

I think it's...Just that he's very aware of what the club means, and I think it's a merit of his that, you know, he's not online.He doesn't really read what happens on social media, but he knows where you are in LaLiga.You can see how the performances are.He captures the atmosphere inside the stadium.I think he personally assumed a large part of the blame for last season.

And obviously I know that many fans would probably blame him, but obviously there was the accumulation of matches, the injury of matches, the injuries, the PCRB.A million different things happened last year, but I think he himself assumed many of them.And I didn't think they were going to be able, with what they were going to have to do this season, with the sales and the type of players they were going to bring, to make enough of a change in the field to reverse the team's fortune.So I understand why he's leaving.I think he definitely felt that he had come to the end of the road with us.

Do you think your owners care?

I don't think any owner cares.Like to be totally at the top.I think the people they've brought, like Hopkinson, who obviously has made a great move on the field and those things at a given moment.And look, the problem we've had with the club's infrastructure is that the levels above the coach have discovered that the pace of things has become completely glacial.There has been a lot of frustration with the previous football directors and the previous executive directors.They get there one day.

Obviously, we can't spend what we want on players, but money for infrastructure is there.We can do what we want with it.We can build a huge stadium there.

I mean, I really include you.I mean, Gar, I just told you, they've lost interest in the club because When I saw the people from Liverpool arriving, what can they do?How rich are they?But they can do something with the stadium.They can do something with the training ground.And Newcastle still hasn't achieved real improvements in the stadium.

That's what I mean.

The problem is how we have to inform about the infrastructure until the last step with this property model.It takes a long time for something to happen.And obviously the fans are frustrated because they have promised us a new training ground since the acquisition took place.There has been talk of expanding or moving the stadiums.And none of these things.There are no shovels on the ground.

There are no concrete plans or anything like that.

It was significant when they announced a new sports strategy.I think it was at the end of April or May.However, they did say that this would not affect their investment in Newcastle.But we already saw what happened with Liverpool.

Basically, they simply disconnected Liverpool overnight.

And now they are focusing a lot on allocating their resources to the 2034 World Cup.I think it is likely that they have lost sight of Newcastle United.It is likely that it is not a priority in their thoughts.They are probably letting it develop a little.And I think that's something worrying for the NICAS officials.And you're right to mention that if they wanted, they could spend what they wanted in a new stadium, stadium improvements or training centers.

Because it is a capital investment that does not affect any financial standard.But it has only been talked about, nothing has happened.So I think it is a very worrying moment in terms of the Saudi Public Investment Fund.

I think what you have to take into account with PIV are the two main reasons why they bought Newcastle.One, the diversification of assets.They wanted to get the money out of oil.This is all related to the 2030 vision in Saudi Arabia.In addition, with the World Cup coming up, Newcastle assures them a place in the UEFA.It also maintains the conversation with European football.

So I don't think it was ever the next season.Well, you are still invited to breakfast.I don't think their goal was ever that, despite everything that was said about making sure to have the best football club in Europe.They just wanted to make sure to have an established one that would be present in those conversations, unless other UEFA clubs took it seriously.And I would say that two Champions League campaigns will probably take them wherever they want with that.The question is if the people who are at the club level, who are named by them, the executive director and the sporting director, if they can comply with what they are supposed to do, because you know, they know what they are working with.

They may find that the pace of change and the pace of decisions is very slow.But that's not new.The people who took that position previously will have told you.It's something that you know when you accept that job.Therefore, I think it is such an important summer for the players as for the coach.The level above them is where the magnifying glass has to go.

Because they not only have to replace three players in terms of their goals or their performance or whatever, they have to make sure to rebuild a culture around the club.

You're right.Jack, also regarding the infrastructure.Just a little comment about recruitment.Because you will end up losing players.They haven't even started digging for that supposed new training field.When you talk to the players, the first thing they want to know is what your training field is like.

It's amazing and you could be compared to teams like Tottenham.Tottenham's training field is amazing and that's how the players are now.

So again, you need to get things done to convince them.You always think it's the stadium where you're going to play in the end, but you're probably going to play what's going to be about 20 times a season.I think it has also had an impact in this summer because, look, many of the players we have brought have had a resounding success.

Obviously Bruno has gone out tonal and has gone out fat.Luis Hall is constantly talked about, of all the players who have been brought in and who have developed to a much higher level than the one we finished last year.They sat down when they signed that contract and said, look, this is what we are going to do in your contract window.We have the long -term plan.This while you are in the club during the duration of this contract.And I imagine that most of them go because they can triple their salary.

They want to win things that we are not going to win.But I also imagine that you say that it harms you with the bottom of your head, that you say, yes, that's what they told everyone who signed three years ago and there is still no training field.So I think they have to regain some credibility.

A team that is in Europe, that is in that area of the Northeast, is the Sunderland.Alan, welcome back.What a season, last season.You probably can't believe where you ended up.

To be honest, I still think that since the semifinals of the playoffs, until now, I'm convinced that I didn't go into a coma before that and I haven't woken up since then.

I just slept on the floor with Jackie White's marker.

Yes, exactly.The last year.And it gave me, being a fan of the Sunderland, It's been incredible, yes.

But isn't that great for any fan?You see certain clubs that don't go in, and you think you're not going anywhere, and then before you realize it, boom, you're in European football.I think there are certain clubs, and I think Villa is one of them.And I think there are several things that any Sunderland fan will tell you.

I mean, there is a photo of the playoffs final of last season in which I mean, everyone had been in the team from the Ligue 1 to the Premier League.And when we talk about the signings, it's that now there are only two of them left in the club.At the moment, one of them is Lou Konien, who was never there.And we're talking about property.And personally, I think you guys are preparing to sell whenever you can.You will eventually disband, but only in the absence of investment.

I don't think it's a personal opinion.Actually, there has been nothing to worry about expanding.I think they'll get into so much bureaucracy that they'll just think it's not worth it.

There's no way they'll do anything before the 2030 World Cup.That's one of the main reasons why they bought the club.But after that, who knows?Maybe we're the next ones on the list.

Yes, but I think what I wanted to say is that our owners have done an incredible job so that fans can join them to help them understand their vision and to take us from League One to the Premier League and European football in five seasons.

It's been a Incredible trip, but do you know what's going to happen next season?Always a team that goes up or does it very well and everyone thinks this is not going to happen this season.I would say it's the season.There could be a lot of people who say it could go down due to the European situation on Thursdays and Sundays.On Sundays.I mean, is that a slight concern or are you still backing the coach?

I think I would be crazy if it weren't a concern.As you can see, after this year's African Nations Cup, we had a bad streak because our playerscame back, our squad was tired.We didn't have the depth we needed and we haven't signed many players in this market and that's a concern.When it comes to the number of games, players that are going to be absolutely vital in that European career, like the fact that Granit Xhaka seemed to be going to Chelsea and that he was dead.We kept him.

We made sure he stayed.I mean, you could check a tweet.who left while I'm sitting here, but we haven't lost Nozai Hiebor.I thought we would definitely end up losing him, but he hasn't left yet.

He should have left last year.

Yes, incredible.Even players like Nordi, like Mukiele.Look, some of the players we've been able to keep and no one introduces themselves and they seem happy and settled in the club.

Listen, I'm lucky that Liverpool Club is in Europe every year, but I think that for many Premier League teams or that they go up from the Championship, the dream is to be able to go to those European places.Can fans make those trips to Europe?You know, is it something that makes you excited to go see your club play soon?

For Europe?Yes, of course!It's strict with the kids when they want to take a couple of days off.But...

Yes, I've been looking if there is a flight that has been created between the fans of the Sunderland in the city, what it means for us.And I think that, like many of us, we have been in that pit of absolute despair, to have something really positive.They said, well, there is a flight that goes to Schiphol, today in which we would play the Europa League.Now, we still don't know who we have, but it's only 19 pounds.Yes, we reserve this flight and then we will be able to take a flight where we need from there.And these are just those moments for our parents and grandparents and for the people who took us to the game and who have not seen us play in Europe since 1973.

It's incredible.

Mark, I want to talk to you about Brentford and Brighton, two of the clubs that were brilliant for both.

How does the year look for them too?Yes, I mean, obviously both have similar systems, right?A kind of recruitment based on statistics from Moneyball.And yes, I think it's really interesting that Brighton has spent a little less than 50 million in Luka Vujkovic, who is a 19 -year -old central defender.He will probably continue to play with Croatia in the World Cup.Well, I think he will be the central defender and Van Geek will go on the other side.

I think it will be a very interesting choice.He came from the Spurs and didn't play a single minute with the Spurs.Last season he was in Hamburg.I think he's a very, very good defender, but also incredible.I was watching that he scored the goal of the season there.Well, I think so.

Many examples for them.And I think Brentford has Madhu Sanghari, who was very important for Lens.The midfielder plays with the Mali team.I think he will be a very, very strong player.

Yes, obviously they do it well.I would expect their players to arrive and cause an impact.Vas has returned, I've missed you.You have returned, now Everton.Good victory last night in the preseason game, because I always have the feeling that Moyes right now, without a doubt, towards the end of last season or the beginning of this one, it's almost his last season with a contract, it's David Moyes.Those fans are kind of in the middle with them at the moment, so it almost seems like he's going.

Yes, it seems that he's probably in the thinnest ice I've been in, due to the way the season ended.You know, when we won Chelsea, I think it was probably the last time they invited me.When we beat Chelsea, it seemed more likely that we would end up in the Champions League than going to Europe.You know, there were seven games left, Everton was at its peak, and in fact we were winning against Sunderland.At the break, in the penultimate game we played in Europe, Jofrecio probably got the worst 45 minutes I've seen in many years against Sunderland.And then the Tottenham was a shame.

We went there to train.He should have changed the team that day, because it was already done, and he left with the safe team.And they just walked through the field and let the Spurs free.And that was something frustrating, in my opinion, for many fans, and I think that's the reason why there's still a bit of a lag in that.And he hasn't spoken in the whole preseason, and I think that also bothers people, but...What do you mean?

He hasn't done it, you know, like some coaches have done, press conferences, or after the games he's been quiet for a few days during the whole summer.So I think people are still upset about how it ended and they haven't heard anything.

I want to tell you that he has done a brilliant job since he returned to Everton, and I understand what you're saying.But the jump from where you were saying that, in the absence of 7 games, you had a small chance of being among the top 5 in the Champions League.And you said it because I remember thinking about Liverpool and then obviously we won the derby and then...Well, a moment in which there could have been.In fact, Liverpool would have surpassed Liverpool that day if they had...Oh, what I'm saying is that, for Liverpool, it seems that every season they try to fight against relegation.

You know, we changed coach in the middle of the season and end of the season.Moyes saves you and then his first full season, which was last season, in the absence of 7 or 8 games, they tell you that you have a chance when... but I almost feel like it's a little difficult.I just think that part of the criticism he received, or part of the way I feel the fans will perceive it, could be a little.

It gives the feeling that it was a bit of a show.For David Moyes, don't you think?I think I trust him.Like two or three years and I think people just get a little bored.Like what happened to West Ham, it's the same, right?And as Jamie said, a brilliant season for Everton last year, and you're a little...

Just by the way you think.I think that if someone, for example,if you were doing this preview last year and you asked me, what do you think?I would say, we'll be fine.No problem, I left with Liverpool.

They finished last year, but in two weeks?

Three weeks.You know what I was trying to say?But in 45 minutes, sorry, one game and a half from the end, we were seventh.But, and that's a bit of my point.You can't finish sixth, they haven't finished 13 wins.La Liga went from sixth to 13 wins, it seemed that anyone could have been anywhere.

But I think that with Everton, you know this for being in the city, my friend.And you know it's still blue.You know.All this red stuff behind you.But you know that whoever comes in, has to back up everything they've done before.I have a small objection to fighting against the relegation every year because it was two seasons.

So I have to sit here and let's go.It was two seasons.It was two seasons that we should have won in the end.The others were fine.

I'm going to talk.

Let's talk.

Let me finish, okay?Let me finish.But everyone is playing with that baggage of what is happening.It's not David Moyes' fault, of course, because he was close.So, when he was here for the first time, Everton would have been like it is now.Everton would have been in Europe 9 of their 11 seasons, because that's how they ended.

They won.They had a couple of bad seasons, but I think Mauricio was 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th.It would have changed, right?Obviously, the league is much stronger.So I agree.I think he's done a very good job.

I just think people want to see a little more.And with those 7 games ahead, we were on a streak and that looked like 2 victories, right?Victory and 3 quarters or victory and draws, maybe.We would have been comfortably in Europe.But, that being said, We are in a good position this season, he is, you know, I try to bring players, come to Everton, I read that it will go well because they will be with David Moyes, no problem.

And then see where they are short in the season.half of each season.For several years you changed coach to make sure you were in the category.Returning to the arrival of Sam Alardyce, what are we talking about 7 or 8 years ago?Marco Silva, Frank Lampard, John Dyche.A situation in which you started last season by simply saying, we don't want to worry about the relegation.

That never existed and then you received the carrot of European football.So I understand that disappointment and that kind of, we could have done a little more there.And I also believe that the Leverton fans, right now, not right now, during the for so long because they didn't have anything to hold on to for so long.Simply.It's as if they loved Moyes so much.

You're right.You know, I don't disagree with what you've said.I think everything was built around us, so we've heard about Moyes and Kings.If you get into this, the owners can invest more money and things like that.Well, you couldn't do that with the PCR and Everton built a stadium and they beat them for it.And Chelsea, you know, come and give us a cup of coffee and you can do whatever you want.

That frustration is there.What about Moshiri?The money to have to sell to our best players.You know, I think Everton said from the bottom, in net expense for 8 or 9 years, eh.So it wasn't like we bought 40 players.We did.

We sat there every week, seeing how the quality got worse and worse.Last season there was a great improvement.It was.And that's where the frustration comes from.But you're right, if you take a step back, and you do it right.And I know that I think that if Everton could have signed, now the coach, what we have to do is sign better players.

What kind of coach do you want in Everton?I'm not talking about the name.I'm talking about what you want, because it seems frustrating.I go back to what you said, Scholes and Sobremoyes.You were very pragmatic.Maybe a coach we saw 10 years ago, or so he knows what he does in the Premier League, has results.

He knows he wins.But we all know we've seen enough of his football.We understand.And as I said, we have great respect for him.He's a brilliant coach.What do you want as a coach?

I'm not talking about someone you can just go to and find someone who talks about, is there a style or is there something you want a little different?I think Everton would like it, I think he would speak for me.Olvídate de todos los demás, pero creo que a Leverton le gustaría una especie de gig en preso, un fútbol aéreo o de ataque rápido con presión alta.Sé que probablemente la mayoría de la gente diría eso, ¿no?Pero nosotros, los de esta ciudad, ya sabes el dicho.No queremos sentarnos en nuestros asientos y seguir, seguir.

Karen y yo hablamos antes de que empezara sobre en qué se convirtió el atractivo la temporada pasada.Leverton tenía esa pequeña locura.Pasas 900 pases y te aburres.Queremos ser como somos, como gente de nuestra ciudad, queremos estar al borde.of our seat, we like to go in.When you, that's what I want, but Everton, the frustration of going back with Moyes is not just the way he was playing, it was the fact that the defense was hitting a lot of goals and he was still playing as a decent center in full performance, he didn't put a 20 -year -old at the end to give him a little breath.

That's the frustration.If he had gone, as I said, to the Spurs game, he would have put four of the young ones, no, I know, exactly, like the Spurs game, but the game is dead, right?So, as a coach, You and you haven't won a game in six, make the changes then.But I don't need something to encourage a coach in the last game of the season.He asks me how the Everton players are doing.I'll give the answer.

You've mentioned something like the Jagan club, that's not going to happen.But what I'm trying to say is that when you see the people, you can't see that kind of football.So when you see the Newcastle coach, we really don't know where he is, there's too much about him.But it's that kind of, you're talking about the Leipzig model, almost like a coach who has directed Salzburg or Leipzig, who, you know, is going to press.Energetic, energetic, energetic football, that's what we want to see.We don't want to see it and we want to see a little offensive football.

And however, Everton had it sometimes.Think about the Chelsea game, without a home.You know, when we won our money in LaLiga.In that game, you know, we were exceptional in the first half.In the second half, they were exceptional because of the break.I think the fans want a little more.

That's what I would say.

Evertonian?

You also realize that there is a lot of competition for what Everton is trying to do, right?

Do you think that by getting the 6th or 7th place, you think you have Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford?There is a lot of competition in that area and you could almost see how that position ends up taking a turn along this line.If you don't know, right?

That's where I think the frustration with Everton would come from.It's when you just mentioned your clubs.Your clubs can't, you know, in terms of size.

And with Everton, that's the fact that...But that's where you get it to work better.I bet they see themselves as better in a way.They work better than they were.And no, there's been a lot of progress, but I feel like people are frustrated, and you're right.It's all David Moyes' fault, and maybe it's not his fault.

Because they've been playing with us for 30 years.That's it.What are we doing here today?I'm recording this promotion.Promotion for a new podcast.Marc Goldritch and I. What's the name of the podcast, man?

What's it called?La Casa Es Increíble.Absolutely.This is what you get when you're one of the best footballers that has ever played.But in practice, I'm thinking, who cuts the basket?Technology.

That was good.Wayne as a player.Exactly what Manchester United was.I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything.What would you think of Mark if you were a current player?

Probably three games.Your own picture in your house.All the great stories.Well, I only had the socks and the underpants on.I hope there are no dismissals.I hope not.

He goes first, my friend.I think we'll have to debate.

That's why we say you can go first.

Easy.

In the volley.United.

Ah, perfect.Tom, I want you to come in.I want to tell you, you've had a great time, haven't you, in these last two years?I want to tell you, everyone wants to be.If you're not from the absolute elite, probably Crystal Palace is the loyal one, right?We're also talking about Brighton and Brentford.

They're fantastic.Crystal Palace yesterday, right?They win trophies.Brighton gets all the attention, but they don't win anything.

So, you know.

If you get the attention, you get the trophy.Yes, exactly.Three trophies.I know people don't take the Community Shield seriously, but I do, because we've never won anything before.And you know, the Conference League, when the final whistle sounded, it was simply incredible.It's not something that I would have thought we could achieve in Europe.

So getting to the end, going from the classification round against Fredrikstad in August, I think so, and playing until the end, to be honest, we were also trash for a long time.There were numerous points throughout that season, in which, from February, more or less, we put things in order, and we started to perform well in the qualifying matches, we got on the wave, and now we're back in Europe, Are you happy to have reached the Europa League last year?It has been a positive side, without a doubt.You know, I mean, to be honest, when we won the FA Cup, obviously you think, well, we are in the Europa League, we have won the position that corresponds to us, but usually having another year of European matches away from home is, I mean, obviously from the perspective of the Andalusians.It's the same for us.You know, my father and my grandfather, we never even dreamed that we could go to these European matches away from home.

So having a second year of this and obviously facing better teams, I'm on the moon, we probably wouldn't have won the Tosmo.I mean, if somehow we get to the end, we win the Europa League and we finish in the Champions League, it's one of the most ridiculous stories in history.I didn't expect it, but as a new coach, obviously, there are new players.The names when they fired Arne Slott, I think there were three names.I think it was Yeung, Sebastian Juánez, Iraola and...Isaac from Liga 1 are in the right place, maybe.

Rollins?What do you mean, obviously.

From Liga 1.I thought you said Lyon.I thought you said Lyon.He was in Lyon before, that's why I wanted to make that clear.But yes, he finished second, obviously.He made me win his first match in C3.

I think that maybe, from a tactical perspective, we're going to try to push a little more to the sides.Create overloads in the last third.But I'm still worried.You know, you lose Maxenss Lacroix.Obviously, Marguerite left in January.There's an elevator.

I always felt safe when I played for Palace.I simply felt that it was so easy for Chelsea to buy him.

The Wi -Fi is a very important factor because basically in January we spent 32 million, I think, in Vernon Johnson and about 40 in Jorgen Strand Larsen.The Johnson thing obviously went out of fashion because we made an exchange with him.I think we had already surpassed it.And to bring players to the new coach we had to make a sale.I know it sounds ridiculous because you think about European football, the Premier League, etc. I don't think we have many options.And there are still rumors that Muñoz is leaving.

We are bringing players and then Gelson will return and there are a couple of people, obviously, a need to sell Maxenss Lacroix for that money.

Vale.Eli, eres la vecina y uno de mis momentos favoritos y divertidos del verano.

Tapa una pancarta.

love that he's in our league, really.I know you love him, but I like having him in our league.Because there's always a story, or something like that.

Although there's also entertainment.

And we need it.You put me in the league.

There's always a story.We can never have a moment of tranquility, and I feel like he's saying, you know what?We don't have Europe.We have a new coach.Let me find another drama.And I'm here for him.

Pretty funny.Do you need to do it?No.It's just mean, but it's a little.

I mean, how much of a surprise was it to lose the previous coach, considering that he had done such an excellent job?

And then Glassner comes in.It's very shocking, but I don't complain in the slightest.And I think that many Palas fans have said that he has won three trophies, and he goes to Forest to escape the relegation, they are not in Europe, and in the January signings market, Yeng, as he showed how frustrated he was.I mean, you were selling players, without telling them, and it seems that they forced you, but I think he looked at a club like Forest and thinks, well, yes, on paper, he doesn't do as well as Palas.It's a fact.But I think he sees it thinking, If he wants to stay with a player, he will stay with a player.

He will simply have it.So I think he's watching and I think he's going to judge for spending, spending.And I think, obviously, the money, I'm not diluted.But I think that could be if a factor contributes.

I think that immediately.

I agree with you, both and something will happen eventually, but there are some Clubs now in the Premier League that, due to the situation in Europe, have won trophies.You know, Palace did very well, West Ham a few years ago, Aston Villa has their hands on a trophy.And I think the Premier League teams should look to dominate the two smallest European competitions.And I think he's the best guy who can really do that.Probably now Forrest and the Premier League teams have to think about how to mess with you.Then we can take a look, we can try to find out what gives you a better chance or not to end up winning a trophy.

I think he also won a cup.He loves to win a cup.I think...

I don't watch him, but it happens.

It's fine.But I also think he fits perfectly in Forrest.In Forrest.I think that with Marinaki, whatever coach comes, none of us expect long -term work.We have a ridiculous record, even before last season with four in a season.In general, we've had a ridiculous record with coaches, but we like to do things fast.

We've had a lot of miraculous coaches.You know, Steve Cooper was a miraculous coach.Nuno was a miraculous coach.La temporada pasada fue un poco infernal, pero creo que el estilo de contraataque, la posesión baja, él lo está reforzando.Creo que teníamos una base, la destruimos, la aplastamos, cuando entró Enchito lo que tuvimos que hacer fue volver al punto de partida con Shondaiche.P, sé que esta es una opinión impopular, pero creo que hizo lo que tenía que hacer.

Y luego Vítor construyó su base.And I think now we have the base.A coach like Oliver Glasner can build on that.And already in the preseason, and sometimes I think that the preseason doesn't mean anything, but he's playing with the three behind, the laterals, the laterals.And I was pretty, I'm not going to lie, I was like, oh, I'm a little worried about that, since we have like a million extremes to choose from.And it's possible that they leave them out and we're going to have to put an extreme, like, for example, a second number 10, or whatever we're going to do.

But in reality, It's Oliver Glasner, he knows more, obviously.And it seems pretty exciting.I think it's a natural progression from where we were before.So I also agree.I think it's going to have like one or two seasons.If he gets a trophy in that time, ah, please.

The plan.Alfie, we want to invite you.Your debut on the show, so thank you for joining us, Full City.And I'm reading here, creator.

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Sevens.It seems you know him.I heard on the way home.Whole City.Whole City.How's the preseason going?

I'm sorry to interrupt.The reason I'm still close to Hull is because they have a lot of ex -players who went through the Wigan, the Wigan, so I know their trajectory and how they got here.And Charlie, who had a small injury in the last...Yeah, I mean, it's a nightmare, really.

Well, the season, I agree, but basically, they led it during the end of last season.So the coach took him out of the team, he had a double hernia, so he took him out of the team with his eyes set on the playoffs.It hasn't been easy.It was supposed to be 12 weeks, but they say it could be offseason, so it's a little strange.He's in the training field running, but without contact.Basically, they say he could explode if...

of the things.So I know he's one of those players I heard about the last day, so you could recover that heart because I think he was an important player for you last year in the championship.

Yes, basically the coach loved him all the time and the owner and his ... what do you call your brain team?The people around him apparently were not convinced that he could take the step forward.Well, we have postponed his signing for all this time, which seems strange to me, especially because they talk about 4 million pounds, which is The owner of Hull City, the one who really makes the flags, and...Yes, yes, he's new.But yes, you know, some of them say he'll stay.

Why was he obviously close with us in League One?

Oh, we love him, but he...

Where does he play for you?Does he play as a forward or more like...

Yes, or as I want to say last season.We had so many injuries that it was outrageous.So, since he's quite versatile, he played on the right when Valemi got injured, who is probably the player with the most talent in the club, but he has had injuries constantly.Then he played like 10.If McBurnie was out, I could play like a fake 9.

To be fair, he was pretty similar when he was followed, but...

Problem.Yes, yes.

He will jump in the Premier League.

I'm not going to let anyone mess with your girl, I'm telling you.

I'm not going to mess with him.

A crack.And he was incredible in the Wigan.They transferred him to Leeds probably too soon for him.Then, with a high salary, as usual, it was difficult to get sessions and he just sat down.

Maybe your coach didn't know how to get the best out of him.

He parked with Leeds in the Premier League.He was about 19 years old.He will forget him.He took off very young.You know, he is the evolution of everyone.So, do you trust what happened last season with the teams promoted?

Because obviously before that we were in a kind of cycle of 2 or 3 years in which the teams were promoted.teams went down again.But I think that obviously part of it is what you do.

You're a rich man.And the other part is that obviously it helped that the wolves were so bad.We haven't had that for a few years.One of the 17 is having a terrible time.Maybe if you look at the Fulham, you have one or two, you know, losing to Silva.A couple of players, a couple of players.

But yes, most people would look at the Fulham team and say that it is much better than ours at the moment.But you know, you probably need a pair to have unusually bad seasons.

But yes.You're in a situation in which, when you haven't been in the Premier League for a while, I think Burnley has done it and receives some criticism for it.It's almost like making sure we use the money from the Premier League this season, instead of doing anything crazy to stay in the league.What happens is that this is going to consolidate us in a position in which, if we go down, we are in a position to go up again.

Well, I think you've seen more strategies.Obviously, you've seen that Sunderland spent a fortune, Villa and Forest, and Forest.It was like a desperate strategy, right?If they had gone down, they could have been in a similar situation to Leicester, for example.And obviously you can't always trust the money and be careful with it.And then they got angry, you know, and they went down to the first division.

I think what is a little strange is that we have followed this strategy of waiting for us to do what Lipswitch just did, go down and go up again.But the rhetoric has been more like, no, let's go for all of them, but it is likely that the signings are not up to the task.They are players who, if they have a good season, are players of 50, 60 million pounds because some of them are 18, 19 years old.Would you wait the last two weeks very busy for the Hull?Yes, always.I think it has been a very hard summer for people in terms of signings.

Do you think the World Cup will slow it down?We were in the playoffs anyway, so you already have that delay of two or three weeks.Then our sports director left.So it's as if everything was being delayed even more.And I think now, you know, in the last three or four days.We've probably signed five players.

I think we're going to sign nine.I think we've signed another nine.Well, I think you have to look at the 18 players.

But yes, I mean yes.Basically, if you do it, it means that last season, according to the underlying data, we were the second worst team in the championship.We are the worst team in the world.With more underlying data in the history of football records.I know.I know what it is.

Or yes.I know what that is.The question or what?No, I love that phrase.We are the team with the most performance.Already, right?

In terms of created occasions and combined conceded occasions.

Yes, yes.

Surely it has gone down according to the numbers.Wednesday was worse, basically, we didn't have players.And you know, we were in bankruptcy.Or yes.

Yes, yes, we have gone through that before, but at the end of the day it is unusual in the sense that most of the teams that go up are used to dominating the games.So they have to change radically.Or they don't like the competition.That's how we're playing with the same style, because we're going to be a counter -attack team, we're going to try to be fast in the transition.So somehow we won't have to do that kind of destroy everything tactically and try again.Which, you know, if you're looking for something positive.

Well, thanks for coming, Alfie.I'm sure we'll see each other again and I hope that first game goes very well against Manchester United.But right now we're going to move on to the community questions and our first question from the Fan Debate community sent by Charlie de Boery, Emirates.Debería Infantino dimitir tras el escándalo de la venta de la Copa Mundial de la FIFA.Martín, ¿fuiste tú quien dio la noticia?Todos la hemos estado siguiendo, leyendo el Times, manteniendonos al día con lo que decías, y puedes darnos alguna información.

No estoy pidiendo contactos ni nada parecido, pero sí información sobre cómo se conoció la noticia.

y cómo la conociste si recibí una llamada de un contacto de confianza que dijo que quería reunirse conmigo pero que no podía hablar del tema por teléfono no dijo nada así que como es natural cuando te pasa algo así como periodista piensas pero un momento que está pasando se me pasaron por la cabeza varias cosas sobre posibles motivos pero no pensé que fuera esto But then I met the contact who showed me a document that described the basic details of this sales plan and then I basically spent the next 24 hours calling all the people that came to my mind.And what was clear is that only a small group of people, not even the FIFA vice presidents, had an idea.And well, I got a kind of second source that confirmed that Joshua Kushner, Jared Kushner's brother, who is Donald Trump's son -in -law, was going to be the main investor and that JP Morgan Bank was also involved.And that gave me the confirmation I needed to go to FIFA, to ask them this, to give them a few hours to answer.And they didn't answer.So we published the story and a couple of hours later they released a statement confirming everything.

And obviously, I wasn't expecting that to happen.

Because in fact I thought it was interesting before reaching Infantino.In a story like that, obviously you are desperate to be the guy who published it.Is there that concern that there is some other journalist who has this?And in such a big story, you have to be almost 100 % sure, you do it because of your experience, and you think you're 90 or 95 % sure you're going to do it because you think you can be 100 % sure in a story like that.Well, I mean, I think when there's something, I mean.Or do you expect to be 100 % sure?

That's the point I'm trying to make clear, almost from your point of view, the concern that another newspaper may have.the story, you want to publish it, and when you think with your experience and knowledge right now, this is the time to leave.Leave.

within the FIFA that had not been filtered.

But that worried me, obviously.

I think that when you go to FIFA and they don't answer and they spend several hours without you saying absolutely nothing, that is not very useful because obviously they are not confirming your story, but in reality that also shows that your version is correct, since if it were not like that, I would be wrong.They would simply say right away that everything you are telling is totally inaccurate.It's not that it's wrong what you're talking about.They didn't say that, they didn't deny it.And I think that not denying it is, in many ways, a confirmation and it gives you the confidence to keep going forward and public.

Okay, at what point are we right now with this case?

I think that probably everyone in this room is desperately hoping that Infantino gives up his position in front of FIFA.

To what degree do you have confidence that this will happen in the coming months?

I think he will hold on desperately.To Europe, the confederation with Kakáv, everyone wants him to go there.They threaten with governance, with boycotts and with not participating in FIFA competitions to try to kick him out.But for me, he is desperate to stay because the presidency of FIFA is his life.If he limits himself, he won't be anyone.No private jets, no Mexican planes.

with leaders and celebrities, no FIFA playing football, no FIFA legends, no FIFA.He disappears into thin air.So he'll do everything he can to stay.He'll try to get the support back.I mean, I think if there are elections, without a doubt, he'd lose.And I think it's likely that he'll face a kind of candidate of humility.

In the elections in March, if he stays, he'll probably lose as well.

Is there a prominent candidate, Tariq Iman?Is there anyone out there who can challenge him?

I think there are some, right?I mean, there's Victor Montagnani, who's the Canadian who runs CONCACAF.There's been a lot of talk about him being born to the president of the Paris Saint -Germain, head of the European football clubs.He has that kind of mix.He has Asian and European support, maybe.So I think...

One of the big tournaments.

I think it's...Well, we have a FIFA U -20 Women's Championship, I think, in Poland at the beginning of September, which is the first one.It's quite...I think it's quite difficult, right?If you're like that young player who's waiting to go to this tournament, and your European rector body tells you that you can't go for this...So it will definitely be a challenge for the UEFA to do it.

I mean, I think the board probably decides to do it, but if...

The players?I think the players already know that at the end of the day, when the time really comes, they will want to play in a World Cup.

Exactly.So I mean, I imagine that there will be a lot of pressure for them to do something in a way to basically paralyze the administration.

Well, listen, Martin, it has been the story of the summer.As I said, now I'm crowning you.You will receive all the awards as a journalist in all the awards next year.No me cabe duda.Así que gracias por venir y compartir eso con nosotros.Y eso es todo por el primer episodio de The Fan Debate presenta -

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