The Unseen Side Of The Rebel Kid | Untriggered #240

The first time?

No, the first time I came on this podcast, I hated you guys.Why?

Thank you.Thank you.Why?Why did you hate us?I thought we...

That has nothing to do with you being good.You guys were actually really rude to me.In that...Cut.Cut.Cut.

Cut.Cut.

Okay.And?

Yeah.And I thought you guys were really rude.there.He said that my dad comments.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.Let's not.

Yeah.So I want him to sit this one out.

We learn from our mistakes.

We got our cousin Hunni this time.Yeah.What has changed with you since the podcast?

My followers have increased.Just life.

More money, more problems.

Yeah.

What do you mean?There's so much that has happened since the last time.

What do you mean?

What do you mean, bro?Okay, let's see.You got cancelled.You went on Traitors.Then you came out.Then you saw, I think, every...

After the Latent.

Oh, I thought Traitors was before Latent.No, no.It was after that.

Like, really tired of it.It's not fun anymore.I know everyone thinks that I do it for no moral compass.So, when I get cancelled, I'm just like...Oops, I had no idea.

Trump's just like, when you put it out, then they're like, how can you say this?

But I really filter myself.Like, I try my best to filter myself and be a nice person and say the right thing.It's when I get cancelled.And now I'm tired of like having this pressure of always, like, okay, now maybe we do something else.

Like a bulk comeback.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bulk comeback.

But it's, we hate the news.They just...

Fair.

Yeah, they write a lot about me.Never anything nice.

Is that the worst thing about getting cancelled?Like reading all this stuff online?

A few weeks, days, you stop getting brand deals and all the brands are like, we still love her so much, but just don't post it right now.We'll do it sometime else.So it's just like, I love money.and I hate not having money.I don't care about anything else, honestly.And I feel like...

Stops, that's when you're cancelled.

Yeah.

So...

That is the only thing that bothers me.But even for smaller things, like not something as big as latent, even for smaller things, brands will be like, let's not be associated with this character who's being assassinated.Yeah, just for that, like those six, seven days and then they're like, okay, now you can post.

Grown -ass.

Grown -ass man.

Trying to stay relevant growing the younger audience.Stop pushing 30.It's a mind virus.

Anytime you hear the word 6 -7, you just have to do it.At what point do we say like this is not a virus?Like it's just...

I mean, to be fair, this is like one of those things where you know, when we were growing up, people would dab.And then after a while, you were like, okay, this is done now.But then there was still some... boomers or like who would still do it.

I used to dab like till four years ago.I thought it was so cool.

Oh, you used to do the full extended dab.Not even just one.That's crazy.Maybe we should bring dab back.

But I don't, I don't get it.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

Only this guy goes crazy.I see someone else doing it and then I'm like yeah obviously even I know how to do it.I don't know how to do it naturally and then I feel so like left out of it.To my house and their entire humor is 6 -7.

But how is it even humorous?Let her explain.She has a brother who...

No, no.So I asked him.I was like, what the fuck?This is not funny.You guys are so unfunny.Your generation is so unfunny.

All you guys consume is brain rot.And so then he explained it to me.He was like, we know that it's not funny.But we're doing it because we know it's not funny.That is what makes it funny.Because we're doing it ironically.

But people who don't do it ironically, they are unfunny.And we make fun of them by doing it like this.Cut to the elephant.

Yeah, you were saying.

I was saying even while we were growing up, all the memes we would consume, all that troll face and...

We were saying it ironically.Bro, I'm so confused.I feel like I've never been cool.I used to say, it's going on.And I thought it was like the coolest thing to ever say.It's just...

You've improved.You've come so far.I think you're objectively funny.I really believe it in my heart.

Now it's going to be overtly sweet to our guest.Last time we were rude to her.Yeah, I'm just making up for the last time.

Because we were rude, she was upset.

Let him be sweet to me.What is your problem?

Usually very...

No, but this 6 -7 derailed our full conversation.Yeah, exactly.We were talking about you and your life and how you're fed up of this cycle of getting cancelled and then the brands not paying you.And then people are saying...

No, the brands pay me, please.I mean, guys.

Don't put this kind of energy into that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.Brands pay me. I love brands and brands love me.

Okay.Is that why you're running away?

Okay, for those who don't know, you want to tell them exactly what does Ameen mean by this?

I think everyone knows.Somehow it's on the news everywhere.I don't understand how.But yeah, I'm moving to New York in two days.

You've already moved.This episode will go out.She's already moved to New York.

I'm in New York.

She's having a slice.

A New York slice as we speak.

Hopefully yes.

Is there any particular reason why you chose New York?

So I've traveled quite a lot and when I landed in New York, I was like I really want to live here.There is something about this city.It's so fast.Everyone is so well -dressed.The food is great.I love the architecture and I've seen New York in almost every single web series that I love and so I've always wanted to live here.

there.So I only applied to one college because I only wanted to live in New York.And I was like, if I get in, I get in and I'll go.And I got in.And so now I have to go.

I get to go.

Yes, I get to go.

You should be happy about it.

It was long and I did it myself.Nobody forced me into it.But now when I have to go, it's like, I have everything here.My career is going great.I make a lot of money.Everybody here knows me. I have access to a lot of things in this country.

And then I'm leaving all this to live in a dorm in Manhattan to study and be a student.And I don't know anyone there.And this degree that I'm going to do is of no use.I never want to do a 9 to 5.I can start a business today if I want to.So why?

Why would I do that?Which is why I'm a little scared but I'm also happy that I get to go.

What degree?

MBA.

In?

Just no specialisation yet.So I'll pick my specialisation in the second year.

So you're going to chill basically.

I'm three months old.

It's not that serious of a programme bro.Did you do it for the visa?Bro, you'll easily get a visa.

I'll only get a tourist visa, which I have.Either through college or through work.And I can only meet other creators through this job.And I don't want my circle to be just creators, which I feel like, mostly in Bombay, I would only be like, I'm not doing anything.Like, I rarely post.So, I just want to be around people who don't care about this industry.

And I felt like the only way I could do that was if I go and study.

All of this just sounds crazy to me.Dreams where I've gotten up for an exam or I'm not able to finish my paper.

No, but I also don't mind studying.Like I've always...I don't mind studying.I can study.I don't have any problem in giving papers.Have fun while I do it.

And the first time I was in college, I was in a relationship.The first day of college I met this boy and I was only hanging with him for the next four years.

So I really... separate yourself from?

I mean, I don't know.I haven't made anything in a very long time that I wanted to make.If I'm on a trip, I don't feel like taking out my camera.Like, oh wow, this moment I really want to record or I want to keep this memory for myself or I want to talk to the camera and explain how I'm feeling.I have to do it because mostly I will have a brand deal that I need to post from that trip.But I never feel like doing it.

So if I feel like it, I'm a parent so I didn't really have anyone to talk to which is why I started making videos.And I was poor when I started making videos.Like not poor, my parents are well to do and we have everything.I'm so privileged.But relatively.we were poor and I couldn't travel so most of my rants were about my parents suck my boyfriend sucks I can't travel I'm so poor and everyone was like wow this is so relatable and now whatever I want to say is just not relatable like nobody relates to my problems which is yeah I'm so privileged but what do I say like I've run out of things to say because no one wants to listen to what I'm saying but I don't think that I say what I truly want to say in my videos anymore.

I know what will work.I know, oh, being this Kaleshi aurat and saying a few things.Like, I know what is going to work.But I'm not that person anymore.

Kaleshi Aurat is dead.

Yeah Kaleshi Aurat is dead.Damn.

It was fun while it lasted.

Lasted how many years?4 years.

I was paid to go and set fire and my job I didn't want to do it like I don't want to go and tell Laila that you are a misogynist but it just started more conversations among other contestants, which is..

.She did make the show more fun, though.Yeah, I started watching it and decided to laugh at it.

I mean, I did tell him like 15 times yesterday that it'd be nice to me, so...

Yeah, I mean, we've also grown as people.It's been like 3 -4 years since we did that episode.

Really?Every time I see you at parties, you're the same.

Anyway...Yeah, the show...

I would... do a bubble bath, I would order champagne, I would order room service.

This is in Traytors or Lockup?

In Traytors.So you have to detach from the show because you go back into your room and then.But once you go back, shut down.Do whatever you want.But in Lockup, when I was in Lockup on us.156.

Yeah.And there are people who are watching us while we sleep, like actual people.watching us while we sleep and there are four cameras on my face while I'm sleeping and we are okay doing that because our job is to entertain people like we're literally selling ourselves because people would see this and they would be entertained and we're okay doing this for whatever amount of money and when I was in lockup I was like This is not how I want to live my life.Like yeh kya hai?Yeh mujhe nahi karna hai.I want to get married in a few years and I don't want my husband to see me on lock to New York.

I must see what else is there in the world to do except for this.

Not really.Who was your favorite?

My favorite?was Shilpa ji because she's too entertaining.Like she's fully crazy and I love that.I love a crazy girl.

Yeah, she hasn't left the crazy.

Yeah, but she's only crazy in parts.I was telling someone else also ki har ladki leh kapde jala degi.Yeah, so every girl has crazy in her and You know you do all these things where you would burn in 10 minutes.I must not become this person.But she's so fun and fresh.I love her.

You never know her next move.She also doesn't know her next move.Which is good.6 potatoes, 4 carrots and 12 peas.Floating in water.And Shilpa ji also used to give her food to people.

And no one else was doing that in that show.So I thought she was really kind.

Others were stealing people's food and stuff.

I had premium tray every day.You guys figure out on your own.

Yeah, but then they do that, so I felt like they do everything they can on the show.Either they'll keep you hungry and you have cameras.That house is there to irritate you and bother you so that you eventually go crazy.

When we were sleeping, they didn't switch off the lights.It was brighter than this when we were sleeping.But when you see the episode, they're like, oh, the lights are dimmed.But they are not.

No way.It was actually lit up.

There's a huge light on.I had a sleeping mask somehow.But I used to sleep with a towel on my face.That's crazy.

That's why at the start when they wake up everyone's coming like rubbing their eyes and they have to scan their face at the start of the episode.

That alarm would not stop ringing till everyone went and scanned their faces.When they say inmates assemble, there's also like...

Oh, you guys had that emergency alarm sound?Oh my god, yes.Yes.F**k bro, this is insane.

Bro, he was so obsessed, he would say Ram sir.He used to call him Ram sir.

RK.He didn't kiss you, no?

Who?

RK.

I don't remember, but I don't think so.

Because that was his thing.

He didn't like me that much.

I think she would have given him nicely.

I think it wasn't creepy, I think he's just that person where he thinks that's how you should be.Like Shilpa ji, you know how she thinks that okay this is normal.

Properly.

Yeah.

In his sleep also he's doing that.

I don't know how people did this for 35 days.They could not pay me enough money to do this.These tasks, when they happen, ek do ghanta you would do tasks and then that's it.Apart from that, there is nothing else to do.Khana order karlo, khana khalo, ladhai karlo ussi cheez pe.The thing is when I went in the show, everyone was so tired of fighting aur koi naya topic hi nahi tha ladne ke liye ki koi nahi ladna chahata tha.

Everyone was just like...

So you had to just go and...

Yeah.Doongli.

Bro, whatever it was, like Ekta Kapoor has made this show, whatever she has done or whatever the team has done, they did something where the show blew the f**k up and it was the biggest reality show and we were all hooked and we were watching it.

8 o 'clock, everyone is in front of the TV.

Same.I was addicted.Me and my best friend, we used to pause, take screenshots, discuss what's going to happen next.I love that show.

I need to put a story of this.

And he would think of...That happened once.That happened once.He would think of who he is really.He's an interesting character.Strange.

Not strange.He's a lockup DT.Interesting fellow.So I just want to know what is he like?Because you've interacted with him.

Utsh Shivangi and Harshad.

Okay.

You would think that at some point, they would stop talking like they're in a serial.But even if you ask them for water...So, yes, Purva, right now...I even went and told them, are you guys stuck in some TV serial?They were like, we're just like that.You can ask anyone.

If I feel good, I cry.If I feel bad, I cry.If I'm excited, I cry.So, why are you such a person?I'm saying this for Shivangi.Harshad is a sweetheart.

So, I love Harshad.

Even I like Harshad.He made it entertaining.

Shivangi is hella cute, bro.She's allowed to do what she wants to do.

Why are you blushing, Stewie?We gotta be careful over here.No.

No.I wouldn't do Captive again anyway.I mean, in this country, I've done the two shows that I would want to do.Other than that, I don't want to do Splitsvilla, Big Boss.

You shouldn't do Splitsvilla.

Why?

Just, it's not good for you.

Really?Yeah.I mean, hot boys, hot girls, what's not to like?

That only.That is specifically why.

No, no.I don't want to do all these shows.I want to do Khatron at some point.

Is there anything you're scared of?

No.But they asked me. I took lessons but I've learnt nothing.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I've learnt nothing.But I have taken lessons, yes.

So now you at least know how to float.

I know how to float, yes.

Then you can do Khatron.Dubhav, there's a task over there.

My thing is, I can't breathe.

That is a little difficult.

Yeah.

So for like 15 seconds, you're good.

Yeah.I mean, 6 -7 seconds.

This is how it starts and then you just have to do it all the time.

What else?

Snake.Commitment.No.

I'm not scared of commitment.

A lot has changed that means in the last three years.

I wasn't scared of commitment then also.You were.

No, last time you came you were like...

I was posting about a man I met like four months ago on my Instagram.That time?I love him so much.

That time you were too vocal about...

Last time you were like...Then maybe I have changed as a person.See, that's nice.I believe now.

That's good.I'm happy there's change in that.Thanks to me. I also feel with age you learn and then, you know...

When will you learn?How old are you?

Age is insane.It's a real thing.

I just turned 25.I feel horrible.

But you don't feel some level of like...No, the first 6 months she's gonna feel horrible.

I feel horrible.Friends are here.Only one of my friends is here.I should have spent it with it.In Ibiza.A nice place to go to.

I mean, you'd rather go through it in Ibiza than in...

Yeah, I did party both the days, though.Till 7am.Ibiza, for sure.

Is it actually good?Because it's like mixed reviews where...It is really good.

Okay, see, if you ask people who can't afford Ibiza and now they've gone to Ibiza and now they're like, oh my God, the water is so expensive and, you know, why are we paying so much to listen to a DJ?Then, of course, it's not a nice experience.But if you have the money, then Ibiza is great.It is extremely expensive, but it's great.

Also, you need to get the music.I feel like if you are not in tune with the music, you go there and it could be like a little...Oh!Why isn't there a word in this song?

Play Bollywood, brother.

I mean, yeah.

Yeah.

He said six hours, seven hours.

No, it doesn't work like that.It doesn't work.

Okay, okay.But anyway, yeah, you were saying about...

Yeah, I don't think it's for everyone.But a lot of people, I think they just go expecting parties.

like they're what they're used to and it's not that yeah but if you can party on a if Sorko Loko is happening on a Monday in a club then there's no better place to party in this world that is true And all people do is party there.Like 7 am, once the clubs shut and the sun rises, you can see like hundreds of girls just walking in cowboy boots back to their hotels.And it's just such a good vibe where you're like, yes, everyone is here for a good time.

Then you go sleep through the day and then wake up in the evening and party.

Yes, you wake up and then you party again.

Fun.That's the life, bro.

That is the life.

It is also pretty...What are the locals doing there?People who are not partying?

I have no idea, babe.I don't take it.I'll come take.Only this much.

Where else had you gone?You were travelling a bit, right?

Oh, I went to Italy, which was insane.I had zero expectations from Italy.For some reason, I don't know.I thought it will be really crowded and really expensive.And every time they tell you, oh, the food is really good.In some place, you go there and you're like, OK, this is not nice.

And it's bland.And I don't want to have this food.But the food was actually really nice.And it was very beautiful.Extremely expensive.I don't think I've ever eaten food like this when our bill was not 20 ,000 or 30 ,000.

Damn.

So it's very expensive.It's very expensive.But where did it come from?Amalfi.Positano.

Ab naam?

Capri.

So, places you ain't never heard before.These are not even how to spell it.

Toh kaafi mehnga tha but it was very worth it.But everyone is making out yaar.Everyone is on their honeymoon.So, it's just like, I always go to all of these romantic places with my best friend.Toh mujhe bahut bura lagta hai wahan jaake.But, it was great.

Kaun?Which place at the...

Guys, what is it?I don't know what the joke is.

There is no joke over here.He's just trying so hard.Poor guy.

You're the biggest guest.I think it's his first guest episode.Really?Nuclea also he's done.

Nuclea is bigger than me. I forgot my question.

I mean, it just felt like...You guys are not asking something, so I was asking.

You asked, I mean, Jazz.What's wrong with you?

You asked, what happened?

You're a podcaster and all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.I'm usually, you know, like, I'm usually controlling the conversation.

No, it's just that, like, I don't know.

Shahi is coming today.Pretty girls scare me. I don't know.

I mean, Jazz, man.

What happened, man?Say more about where else did you go?

Yeah, you were on holiday for quite a bit.

You're always on holiday.

So excuse us.So I'll tell you my issue with travelling now.Why I don't have stories is because I don't enjoy travelling anymore.

What do you mean?

I have stopped enjoying going anywhere because like okay I still have all of these problems and I have all of this work and there are things that I need to do and I'm running away from these things and going to someplace else.And then what do I do there?I mostly party because Jitni bhi touristy cheeze hain wo maine kar liye hain aur main same jagah pe jab baar baar jaati hoon then there's nothing else to do except for partying.I have stopped enjoying partying.It's become redundant and I know how the night is going to go and yeah so now when I travel, when I come back home I feel so exhausted and I have so much pending work by the time I come back andcan't create content when I'm traveling anymore because everyone expects me to have these crazy stories about how I missed my flight and then this happened and I got hurt and then I got stitches.

But that's not my life now.And whatever I want to say, like I really liked Italy but I haven't made anything from there because Kisi ko nahi sunna hai, oh my god guys, Amalfi coast, the water is so clear.Nobody, like kisi ko bhi mere page pe woh nahi dekhna hai.

But not necessarily.

It is.Like, I mean then what is the difference between me and any other travel creator?Like I can't tell you five places you should go and eat in Amalfi.Nahi woh authentic tired.Like I'm so tired.The one feeling I constantly feel is that I'm tired.

Do you think you've experienced too much too fast?Because like the things you're describing at 25, you're probably, there will be 10 people in all of the world who have experienced these things.

Yaar, when I started travelling and when I started partying, I thought ki yeh jo mere paas paisa aa raha hai, it'll go away one day.Like, I never really had belief in myself to do it for so long.So, I was like, I'm not gonna save anything.I'll spend whatever I'm making so that I can make the most out of it and travel as much as possible and see as much as possible and do as many activities as possible.And now, it's been a while.Like, it's been 5 -6 years.

since I started traveling and I have this money now like and I will touch wood have it for a really long time so this is the first time I've also believed that oh maybe I can do this long term and this is not just a phase of my life.I constantly felt like I was so yeah which is why I don't really have a lot of travel stories so when you ask me what happened in Italy, Italy was the first time when I was not doing anything and I didn't have 12 things planned in my day andI was just floating in the water and I felt so nice but I just didn't know how to...

Your body didn't know how to react.She was just floating in the water.But it actually feels very peaceful, bro.

Just being in the sea.The thing is there's water in your ears so you can't really hear anything else.So it's just, it's really peaceful.

It is and it's also a little scary when you don't know, when you've not been at peace for a very long time, you tend to suddenly start overthinking.

Which is what people are going through on like different levels also, not just while travelling on a trip in a different country and you don't know what to feel.Like people just in general don't have time with their thoughts anymore.So like the idea of being peaceful is very scary to so many people.Like every time you think of relaxing, what does that even look like?Relaxing essentially means Not really doing anything.Just being there.

But no one can do that anymore.It's just like an absurd thought to have for someone to just sit and do nothing.

My thing is, even when I'm relaxing and I'm alone, my brain is on overdrive.So, it's never...Like if I'm alone with myself and I'm thinking, after one hour, I'm so tired of that thinking.So, it's not relaxing.

Is the thinking productive?

No, never.

You're just overthinking.

Yeah.

I've started to notice that even vacations, your life as a creator is so calculated.Everything you post is so well thought of, which is why you have the success you have.But that also comes with this cost of like, you said I didn't take pictures because I didn't feel like there was a story interesting enough to say.But in reality, that's not why we take pictures.You have fully transitioned into this being like your job.And you have forgotten that love that comes from just creating.

So, there is that stress that is involved with being a content creator and I lost my train of thought.

No, but that makes a lot of sense.I don't, like, record anything that I know I won't post.

Yeah.

I only record myself.the things that I know are necessary and I would need this footage so I'll record it but I never feel like opening my phone and recording it.Even when I ask someone to click my pictures, I'm just so stressed.I really have to give deliverables in this outfit otherwise the brand will kill me and I need to post it in this timeline so I need these pictures.So anything that used to give me joy is now just work.

Fair, I feel also the move for you like now that you're gonna move out and take a break from all of this, you might come back.Will you actually come back to content after that?

I don't think I'll stop making content on what's happening.

You're actually one of the best storytellers, bro.Genuinely.

Thank you so much.Thank you.

Because I've actually said this to a lot of people that you're a very good storyteller.

Thank you so much.I love telling stories.I love telling people around me, oh this happened and this happened.And I love moving my hands and having some sort of suspense when I'm telling that story.So it does come natural to me and that is sort of the only thing I enjoy doing now.So I don't think I'll stop making content.

What I do want to do is I want to move away from this bubble that I've been living in because all of my friends keep telling me, bro, you've been killed.You just get it.But I don't.And for a very long time, I kept believing in my friends.Oh, this friend is really smart.And he's telling me that I'm the shit.

I must be the shit.But I've not felt like the shit in a very, very long time.So yeah, I just hope at least from this move, I can have a sense of self because I feel like how I see myself is mostly how other people perceive me.It's all like whatever I read on Reddit becomes the truth in my mind.So if they tell me that I'm looking hot in a bikini picture, I will start believing it.But if they tell me that, oh, my nose doesn't look nice, I will also start believing that.

And they say something new every day.So I'm so confused every day in what to believe that I think just having this distance would really help me.

What's it like being perceived all the time?Constantly eyes are on you and online people most of the time don't have anything nice to say.

I think when I started out, it would fuel me when people were like, oh, I hate her.I would be like, yeah, you do, bitch.And what about it?I'm so cool.And now, it's been so long.And it's been so tiring because I know I've changed, like, the way that I talk now has changed quite a lot from where I started.

And I don't like this person.I like that person only.I want to go back to being that person.But when you get abused so much, then you have to learn to not say certain things.Like, I can't talk about religion ever but I want to like I have a different relationship with God and I like talking about it and I like telling people how I now have faith but I can never post it because I know I'll get a lot of hate so I do optimize for getting as little hate as possible I'm not very good at it that's the only thing what is I mean there is something fundamentally wrong with that because there are like a lot of the hate comes from envy and it is really easy to hate you Or just creators in general, you're in the top 0 .1 % of creators in this view.

People look at your life and it's just like everyone wants that life.Like there is probably not a single person who would look at the videos you post and say, oh, I don't want this.A new country every month, going to all the festivals that people do.of and living really nicely at this age it's like super envy -inducing so like a lot of it comes from there also it's not necessarily your actions it's not the things that you post yeah I know but I I am also not happy with what I'm doing.

If I was content with my life and if I liked my life, I probably wouldn't have listened to people.But I am insecure and I don't like the life that I'm living.And I don't think, I think that I'm wasting my potential.So when people tell me that whatever you're doing is wrong, it is easier for me to believe them because I already subconsciously believe it.

Just like validating that fact.

The comments don't have to change.I just have to build a life for myself that I like more than my current life.Like I spend most of my days just chilling.I don't want to live that way.When I was in college, I was so driven because I didn't have money and I was like, I never want to ask my father for money.So I'm going to optimize for being rich.

And that was my only goal.Now I'm here.Now what do I optimize for?I want something to do with my life, something worthwhile.And I don't have that.I don't have hobbies.

So when people tell me that all you do is party, and you're a piece of shit, and you have a potty mouth, it's easier for me to believe them because I already think that about myself.So it's not their fault.I can always turn off my comments and not read Reddit.But I already think all of this.So then I want to know that do they also think, am I right?I'm so right.

But what if they're saying good things about you?

They rarely say good things about me and actually I do get a lot of love but every time I get love I'm like are these people stupid?Like what is there to love?

Our brains have like this tendency of it prefers to be correct rather than real.So if you have like this tingling thought inside your head of like something where you feel like you're less, you're kind of lookingat the world for confirmation of that so your brain can be like yeah see I told you you're not enough I told you you don't deserve love see look what this guy said so our brain is kind of it's it's a mechanic of our brain to like be looking at life like that but no I mean that's all we have like if you have a healthy self -image you kind of move through life in a healthy way No, I think honestly there is something that comes with doing the same thing over and over again for a prolonged period of time.

Like human beings, maybe, I don't think you're supposed to live that way.I think you're supposed to go through change every once in a while.And just adapt to new things because that's how you're constantly going.Like you said, you were driven before because you didn't have money and you wanted money.Now you have money.It's like, okay, now what's next?

You need to always be solving something.Otherwise, you just like keep getting this whole idea of sitting by yourself and constantly thinking about yourself and how you're doing and why I'm not doing this, why I'm not doing that, what they're saying.That is not healthy.So you will be creating problems out of thin air because you have nothing else to do.And those problems aren't even problems worth solving because the New York is, I think, the right thing to do.

Yeah, no, I know going to New York is so easy.There was this phase that I was going through.I mean, it wasn't a phase, but I wanted to start a beauty and personal care brand and I reached out to people and these are people that you've seen on TV and people are dying to talk to them for an hour and if they invest in our company, our life will be made.That's how people perceive these people and they were ready to like, put in money, take care of operations, give me 50 % equity, make sure that they buy me out in a few years.They were ready to do all of that.And when I was working on this brand, I realized that I don't know so much.

Like, I don't know how supply chain works.I don't know how to do operations.Except for marketing and branding, there is barely anything that I know in this world.And I don't want to be this person.Like, I want to get smarter.I was telling one of my friends that I don't

think after college, I've had one new thought.Like I'm stuck in that 21 -year -old mindset.I haven't learnt anything new.Because I don't sit on YouTube and watch anything productive.

Learn to float.

My dad still takes care of my finances and it's so...Like, stupid!Why can't I just learn it?So I was like, I'm going to force myself to get a degree that teaches me all of this.And I'm going to force myself to sit with people who have worked in these fields, who want to run businesses, who have probably worked at really senior positions in companies, and...

Being a business part of the plan, and is MBA the reason you...

Yes, I mean, I would want to build a business, but I just don't think that I'm capable right now.So, yes, MBA made sense for me.

You're too cute.He's asking questions as if he's going to give her the...I'm curious.I'm genuinely curious about these things.

MBA.

MBA.

Master recruiter.Have you seen that video?The AIB video?No.The honest colleges.

Have you not seen it?

No, I haven't.

Bro, such an iconic video.

You were also growing up during AIB, right?

I loved AIB.I was obsessed with AIB.But my memories...I can't remember all this.Like, how do you guys remember these random videos?

Because we were like, I think...

Those videos kind of shaped us.They shaped us as...Humans.

It used to be really...

At that time, there was no such thing as humor in Hindi.That we could say, like, this is our humor.There was no untriggered at that time.So AIB was the first time someone came and they were like, oh, they're speaking our language.Part of the team.No, I meant like our lingo.

That was a good era of comedy.Have you seen anything funny recently?

No, I don't watch YouTube.

What do you do then with your free time?

I scroll reels or I watch a show.I haven't seen YouTube in a very long time.I think only Tana Mongeau is one YouTuber that I watch because I learnt story times from her.And her story times were really fun.One of her most famous videos is titled, He Fucked Me With A Toothbrush.So, whatever she makes, I love.

That is actually very...

Yeah, so that was my standard of being problematic.

Bro, see, a lot of...Kids, I feel, who want to become creators.Instead of just, like, doom -scrolling someone's page.Yeah.You should learn from it, bro.Like, what you did is learn from someone else.

Learn storytelling.And now...

But it's easier now than ever to just get lost in the source, bro.

I'll go to learn...Really, if you want to be a content creator.Let's say, if you want to be like her, sit down and study her page, bro.That'll actually teach you so much.

But so many people do.So many people also make videos about her.It's like, oh, rebel...They'll say some crazy hook.

You know a lot about me, huh?

We have to do research on my guests.I've put in extra time for this one.Months and months of research.

Yeah, but she's the very easy...You're a very easy hook for people to keep.

Yeah.

And a lot of people misuse it.

I know.I know, I know, I know.

That's why we're doing this episode.

Our biggest episode.I had to...This was my idea.I wanted to do this and I had to force Amin Jais to let me do it.He did not want to do it.

Why not?Why not?I mean...Why didn't you want to do it?

I thought we've done it once.I mean we have very few guests recurring so maybe that's why.That was the thought process behind it.

Yeah also the last time you found us rude so I was just like we need to change that.No guest has ever called us rude.

I said we will behave.So far we are nice right?

Yeah so far you guys are nice.

Yeah, so I was waiting for the right time.I was like, when I feel like the boys and me are ready to be nice.For a few hours.

These were the only two boys you could convince to be nice.

We have a guest council today.at the Lil Bro Association.

A relationship expert.

The best relationship expert in this country.It doesn't have to be relationship problems.Every week, a bunch of people write to us with their problems and we try our best to solve them.

We try to be the big bro to these lil bros.

Sometimes in life, you gotta be a lil bro.Have you ever been a lil bro?

No.

No one has lil broed you?

No.

No?You've never been stuck somewhere and you go to someone and you're like, lil bro, listen to me.No.Okay.Good.

No, they're asking if she's been a lil bro.

I have never been a lil bro.

You've always been a big bro.

Yeah.

Okay.

I mean, I have been a lil bro, honestly.Yes.

Everyone has.

I hate being a lil bro though.Like, I hate asking for help.

Yeah, you don't like being a lil bro.

And it's like when you ask someone for advice, you always know what you have to do.Like, nobody's gonna come and tell you something that you don't already know.And then they tell you and then you're like, oh, now also I'm not gonna do it.I have no self -respect.

I think it's more about externalizing your problem.Right now, you're just discussing the problem in your own head with your own counsel in your brain.

But when you externalize...Okay, okay.I have one.He cut it.He was saying something.Sorry.

Sorry.No, he was feeling good.He was saying something.He's like Sadhguru, bro.He just starts one train of thought and he's like...

Advice on getting out of the friend zone.We need to know this.

We need to know this.Excuse me.We're missing...

We actually have a...Are you not always in the friend zone?

Not...

Not...I mean...Not...Not...Not...Not...

Advice on getting out of the friend zone.You were just happy right now because the girl that you've liked for so long broke up with her boyfriend, weren't you?

I mean...

Advice on getting out.

What Libro said.

Considering we have a female girl here.We have a female girl.

Replacing Sheena.

Okay.Catching strays.Hey guys, I am 18 years old and I really like this girl and I asked her out after some time of hanging out and she rejected me and friendzoned me and she thinks we are best friends.But I still have a soft corner for her and I still like her.Classic.Can you guys tell me if I should be friends with her or just stay away because everyday I think I am falling for her more and more and she thinks our friendship is getting stronger.

Apart from this, love you guys.You have changed my life.Got me out of depression.I started laughing again after a long time.Since two years.My life has been great because of you guys.

Love you untriggered boys from a lil bro.Bye.

I mean you guys have helped me also a lot.Laugh and smile and just be happy.All of us?Yeah.Most of you guys.Most of you guys.

Okay.Okay.Okay.So what do you think?

I don't think that you should be friends with a girl.

It's a tricky spot to be.

No.The issue is that boys always have a different story in their mind.That one day this girl will change her mind and she'll give me a chance and till then I'm going to keep doing cute things, get her flowers, be available, I'll give her a shoulder, I'll do all this.And then one day she'll be like, oh, actually this is the guy for me.That never happens.

Can I cut you over there?

That never happens unless and until the girl has gone through a heartbreak and then she is using you to move on from that breakup.That is the only situation where you would give that guy a chance.

In that, when you get that chance, if you shine, will she keep you or will she never respect you?

No, the thing is, yeah, she won't respect you.I won't...I mean...That's like...

That's a little bro situation.It's like sub me in coach.Let me...Give me a chance to play.

Give me a chance to play.Exactly.So that's the problem.Like what you said is that it never works until like the girl has...

No.You'll always be a super sub.

Never a starter.Not a super sub also.They'll never be a super sub.They'll just be a...They'll be subbed on because now...You know you're on the 95th minute, you want to...

Super sub is such a funny way to...Super sub is a funny way to...

What is a super sub?

Like when you're losing a football match and the manager's like, I need a substitute to like just go and change the game.He's a super sub.

And the substitute will come and like kill the game.Change the whole game.That's a super sub.Okay.Okay.Okay.

So I was like, no.

Available bro.You don't wanna fuck yaar.

That's the thing.That is true.

Like a loser, bro.You've been chasing this girl.And also, you haven't gotten any girl in a really long time.You're only after this girl.

And she knows that?So the thing is, she's been with guys, she's had boyfriends and then this guy's just waiting over there.And she sees that he's not doing anything.

But from the guy's point of view, it's not like...I'm trying for this girl.It's just like, I think the guys are keeping her around because they really enjoy their companies.

No, but he's saying that.He's not enjoying the company.

He's miserable the whole time.

He's fucking miserable.

He wants her.He wants her.Basically, he wants her.

He just wants to hit, bro.

He doesn't like her company.mean but now hehas this new girl hmm fuck so let me I might I'm losing like I'm losing him to another can't use him anymore minds like the perception of this boy in her head change a guy who's with a girl is always more attractive true Oh, bro.

But not in a way where you would be a home wrecker and get the guy.Not in that way.But it is way more attractive.

Because it's proof, right?Like one girl has picked him.So there must be something.Social proof.You've seen that OK Tested sticker they put on.It's like that.

And also the thing is girls and they use it.

Yeah.

Damn it!

Yeah, I think the best advice here is just like go do your own thing.

No, I have one like side question if you can just talk about it.How do you get out of the friendzone?You're saying it's like impossible.

Yeah, once you've been put in the friendzone, there's nothing that you can do to get out of it.

Okay, she has to do.

Yeah, you can't do some romantic gesture.

Yeah, you tell me.The worst case is like she tells you we're just friends and then the best thing you can do if you don't want to be in the friend zone is say that's not okay with me so I would just rather not be friends because I don't see us being friends.That is not my intention with you.My intentions are different.Make it clear.Either she will say okay whatever go do your thing or She at least knows, okay, he took a stand.

He's not gonna...

But then, okay, let's say I've been friends with someone for a year, year and a half and now they tell me...

That's too late now.

Okay.What's the timeline?

I think early on you should establish that I'm not here to be friends, bro.

I have my own.You start as friends.We met in school where we've been friends for two years and now the guy has started catching feelings for me.And then he tells me, oh actually I'm in love with you.And you're like, okay, we're just friends.Then if he says, if you don't want this to turn into a relationship,

else, I don't want to be friends with you, then you're a horrible person.Everything you did in that friendship was only for like one...

Don't say it like that.Say it...You have to be very honest.You have to say, we started off as friends, but now I've developed these feelings and I just can't see ourselves being friends.It'll be too painful for me.

So you don't value the friendship enough to continue being friends.

I value the friendship, but I value my self -respect more.So...

But what if usually...

You're so young.

What she's saying is like if you have grown up together or like you know you've been friends for a while and then he's developing feelings...Why are you bringing such an extreme example?

What's extreme in this?It's not extreme.

He's saying the same thing.You know you've become friends with someone to like kind of test the waters.

After some time of hanging out and then she rejected me. I asked her after some time of hanging out.Now we don't know what the sometime can be.

I mean, before dating anyone, you're going to just be friends with them for a while.Just catch their vibe.Because the first thing this is...And in that period, if she becomes very close to you as friends...And then after sometime you've decided, you know what...

I think what happens there is like if she has seen you always as a friend...

Can you put your arms down?I'm getting too distracted.

If she...So then now you choose.If you want to keep being friends with her and just be upset that she doesn't like you at every minute, be reminded that she just sees me as a friend, you would rather leave the friendship, no?Because that friendship is now ruined, right?

And the thing is most of the times women know that the guy is in love and she'll just keep him around saying, Bhai.That's it.They say bhai.

He's bhai like I feel good.

I know I'm protected around him.He's gonna do his best to always make sure I'm happy.Yeah.But he's not my guy.Okay.Then that's a bad situation to be in.

Can we mark this?Okay.

We told him.Don't be friends.

Okay.It's done.It's done, bro.Okay.Slight change of...Okay.

This is gonna be a very...We're gonna change our...The subject.is, I genuinely feel like a useless guy doing nothing in life.

Oh no!Only you sent this one.

I don't feel like that though.I'm 28 and I still don't know what I'm doing with my life.Bro, join the gang.I'm not earning.Okay, you're on your own.I haven't figured out my thing, and that messes with my head every single day.

The weird part is, I know I'm a creative person.I know there's something I'm good at, I just haven't found it yet.I want to explore different things, try stuff, fail, learn, but almost everything needs money.I know that probably sounds dumb, but that's generally how I feel.I lost both my parents at a very young age, and ever since then, my brother has been the one looking after me.He's never once made me feel like a burden.

He's always had my back and never complains about supporting me.But that's exactly what makes me feel so guilty.I don't want to be 28 and still depending on him.I want to be the one taking some weight off his shoulders, not adding more to it.

Okay, first of all, if you feel that way, you're already seen.

He's already 80%.

Like you're almost there.You know what the problem is.Your intention is good.The thing is, my brother isn't making a lot.He makes enough to pay the rent and keep food on the table and that's about it.So, I can't just keep...

What should I do?I feel completely lost.Ever since my mother died, my confidence has gone down.Completely gone down.I have no life.No friends.

Nothing and I mean it I've been going to the theaters alone for the past three years I just hit the gym for two hours because that keeps me a little sane.Okay, great Other than that, I just sit at home or I just watch your podcast It's been five years and I still haven't missed a single episode what you guys always cheer me up whenever I'm feeling low I've genuinely learned a lot from you guys and I'm not kidding.Your podcast has been amazingof my life for a long time now, and I'm really grateful for it.Please knock some sense in my head.I don't want sympathy.

I just want to get my life together, find my path, and be able to tell my brother one day that all the sacrifices he made for me were worth it.

OK.

Tough one, sir.Tough one.This is a...First of all, like, we and this guy should acknowledge that all of this is a lot.to handle.So like you feeling that you're useless and you're doing nothing in life you've just been dealt like a tough hand but it's just like difficult to like with these conditions it's just difficult to have a normal life.

What do you guys think?

Can I say what my issue is?It's the older brother.The thing is if you're helping your little bro and you're giving him money and there is food on the table and the basic things are taken care of then you're just never in that position where you need to go and earn money.If he didn't have this money and maybe if he didn't have an older brother, he would have been able to figure out how to make some amount of money.But having that safety net just keeps you from doing your 100%.

Yeah.Okay, I mean, this case is a little extreme because their parents have passed away.So I'm assuming the older brother feels like a parent.

Yeah, but...

I think that's, it's like your parents wouldn't cut you off if you weren't earning till 28 also.Like in India, we just don't do that.I don't think.They could.

I mean, I would rather like tell, I would rather have them tell me that we're not going to pay you.We're not going to give you one single rupee.

Yeah, of course.That is one...

You pay rent at home.If you're staying with us, you have to pay your rent.Yeah.That's how it works.

I feel that, obviously, he's on the older side.He's 28 and he's saying that...

Shall I chime in?Bro, I feel like, in life, right...See, these guys are laughing again.

Why have we made this segment, bro?I'm saying anything, you guys are laughing.I was speaking and then you just said like...

Baba, Ashwin Unni.

No.I just feel like in life, at any stage that you are, that would be success.Yes, but even when he makes money, he will have new problems.You're always chasing success.It's never with you.

He's not making money.He's not looking for success, that's the whole point.

He's looking for a job.No, what I'm trying to say is, even in your position, you said you make this much amount of money, you still have this feeling that, now I feel successful.It's never gonna come.

Bro, but how to feel successful when you're not making money?

Yeah, what I'm saying is that this thought process has to go first.That's how you start taking action, bro.

I think you are on to something, just like you're there halfway.If your idea of success is that, one day I will take care of my brother and I will repay him for everything, that's like, okay, it's a good thought to have, but that's not where you start.You start by earning, so you figure out how to make 10k a month, it shouldn't be that difficult.And he has a clear goal.And he's, like, from what I can see, he's well -spoken.

He is well -spoken.That is what he's trying to say.Yeah.Because nobody likes being alone, bro.If he's saying he's going to the theatre alone for the last three years watching movies, I don't think it's a very...It's an act that anyone would want to do for three years straight.

He is obviously going through it and he just wants...Like, the success is like a very different thing what you're trying to get at.

I was making a point, but you guys kind of interrupted me.let's just let's just put it this way that bro just take a book pen write like five things you're good at and write what which one of this can make me at least a little bit of money even if it's like an embarrassingly small amount do it like don't take any shame in earning little money And then you'll just figure it out on the way.You'll figure out that discipline that's required to continue making money.You'll learn the ins and outs of this specific skill that you have.And along the way, you'll meet other people who will also help you because you're so driven.Like, life will work itself towards you as long as you take steps towards it.

You can't expect luck to come to your lap and be like, here, take this.You have to put in the work.You have to be in positions where you can be more lucky.And that happens when you move.You have to, like, go out of your current routine.You have to...

Bro, but you're saying things that he will find in a YouTube video.that nothing is happening.gets done if I'm thinking of doing that will take you closer to this goal of making money and just do that and then do two things the next time now and now like I'm sure he doesn't need to hear this it's never been so easy to make money you know like anything you want to learn you can learn for free which is you can learn AI you can learn video editing you can learn so many different things and just instead of watching untriggered he could do so much he watches it to feel like a part of something which is very sweet that he's seen every episode yeah Yeah, so weren't you looking for people who can help you?up with topics that you can talk about and do research that is one thing that he could do for other people and watch their content yeah sure yeah that's a very good yeah I mean there are so many things you can do yeah it's just that you it's like gotta get to doing it you haven't done it till now you've started by saying I am 28 so I think it's something that you're conscious about that you're 28 and you're not making money it's fine It's fine.28 is not so bad.We know people who are in their 40s and figuring it out, that's bad.

But 28 is still okay, bro.You have your life ahead of you.Your brother has been taking care of you.I think it's great that he's done that for you.You should thank him.I'm sure you're grateful.

Be appreciative, yeah.

And just like with whatever he's giving you, you have access to internet.Figure one thing out.Make some money.Doesn't have to be crazy amounts or money will multiply.Money follows.

Money follows, my brother.

But like she said, bro, just think of one thing that you're good at and it's the easiest to reach out to people in today's day and age.It's never been easier.for you to just send someone a DM.

And sir, I know once an executive assistant who just sits and books porters and tells brands to send clothes to the barter and that is literally the job and you get paid 50 ,000 rupees a month.Anyone can do that.Like all you have to do is just like reach out to people on their email and be like, let me, give me a chance and I'll do it.

That is actually a very solid start for him, bro.Because he's well, like he's well spoken.

And plus he's into content.

Just a question on top of that, what kind of email would you be sending?enticed to clicking.So he can figure out how to do a bold email.

Maybe I don't check my email, I have a team to do that.

Ask her team and then come back.

But no, we open every single email.Even if it's spam, my team opens every single email.

Yeah, I think you just got to put the pastin the past enough.Okay.You felt useless.You've been through so much, but now it's just like there's so much more.

You also wrote an email, right?Yeah.Talking to our producer Prashant.

You can give that value to more people.The more you can do it, the more money you'll make.

Like if you want it as it is, you're not in a place to find your calling right now.That is not what you should be thinking about.Calling comes later.

When you get it.

This is the period.Dug it out.Whatever is happening, do it.Whatever you get, do it.You won't even like it most likely.But do it, bro.

Do it.Earn 15 ,000.Earn 20 ,000.Earn 30 ,000.

And especially in this industry where hiring is impossible because we don't have HR to hire for us.We don't go on LinkedIn and hire people.So, just reaching out to people is great.

Yeah.That is a very solid.That's a great advice.Solid solution to fix this problem, bro.And just snap out of it, bro.Done?

Done.Approved.Are you guys having fun?Should we do more?Yeah, let's do.We'll do a couple.

When was the first time you made money from content?

Were you making money?

And you also worked a job.How does MUN work?

I won a lot of MUNs.

Oh, prize money?

Yeah.I would say from that.But yeah, I did internships also, college second year.But I started making money college second year only through content.So I was 19.

Okay.She basically was working a job and then she started doing content.Started making more money from content than her job.How much did your first brand deal pay you?

3000 rupees.

Hell yeah.

It was a song promotion.

Let's go.What did you have to do?Sing the song?

No, no.Just like make a video on the song.So I wore, I remember this like pink suit and bangles and all.And I was like...And then I twirled.

3000 rupees.

Yeah, it was like a Punjabi song.I was like, this is insane that I'm making 3 ,000 rupees.And then the next brand deal I did was for 5 ,000 rupees.It was one reel and three stories.It wasn't a reel at that time.You had to put the video like a post.

IGTV.Yeah.But this app would help you write captions and all.So, it was... for that app and it was bootstrapped.So this guy from Kolkata or Hyderabad paid me 5 ,000 rupees to make that.

That's crazy.

Then I made 25 ,000 directly.

How?

Bumble did a deal with me.

So you thought Bumble is a big company, so I'll save more money?

Yeah, literally.

How much did you quote for the Bumble deal?

They asked me for usage and all and I had no idea how all of this works.Yeah, use.Use.Why are you asking me to use?They were like, we'll run ads on your face.I was like, oh my God, that's crazy.

Amazing.

Can I pay you for that?How does it work?

So it was three months of usage, one reel and one story for 25 ,000 rupees, which was insane.

Yeah, that's like a month's salary.

I took my boyfriend to Goa from that money.

Just a question.How many followers did you have at Bumble?that point of time.

I had like 50 -60 ,000 followers.

That's a scam.

And my reach was insane.I used to get 2 million views at least on every reel.

See now that is calling.

No, but this is not my calling.I don't like doing this.

But you're good at it.

I'm good at it.This is me eating shit.

You're just rubbing it on his face.This is good shit.I'm eating shit.Going...

You're pretending to be so understanding.I mean, your friends are bullying me.

Now it's the real Tunni that came out.You were feeling it, so we were all being nice.But you're like, I'm so sad.She's like, fuck, I was crying.Just fucking around, man.the way.

Arey, chup kar tu.Iske baad after party bhi jaana hai yaar.Stop it, Stuvi.Don't be mean to your guests, guys.

This?Oh, subject was female bestie issues.

Similar to that, I'm 100 % sure.

But let's see.Okay.Hey big bros, I'm 20M.You can call me Brawny.Bro thought of a name for himself.He's, I'd Brawny.

Cool ban raha hai yeh.Currently, I'm in my penultimate year of college.

My God!

Congratulations, Bronny!

Being from a small town, I've had a very neat college life till now.Never been in a relationship before.In my second year, I was a part of a massive friend group.We did so many activities together.I thought we were unbreakable.

You always think.

Every child in his second year of college.

First year of college.

You are the most naive over there.But the canon event happened.

Oh, so he is so aware.I like that.Two people were in a relationship in that friend group.They broke up in January and the friend group kind of broke as well.The girl in the relationship was very nice with me since the days of their relationship.Even invited me and others including her ex -boyfriend on her with someone and she broke down in front of me.

She urged me to help her and become her homeboy and I did.The first few months were very nice.She was always hanging out with me, sending memes and sharing suspicions.We did all.We even went out to cafes and restaurants.I obviously had no feelings for her romantically.

All I wanted was a good friend in the opposite gender since I've been shy since childhood.We even texted and shared reels during our two -month long sem break.We couldn't meet because both of our parents are strict and we are We hate lying to ourselves.Oh God!In brackets, we could have easily lied and met.But as soon as the college responded, it reopened.

Let me make this bigger.Just do this.

Okay.Oh, so much better.But as soon as the college reopened, we met at a very nice cafe.The problem started from me, you can say.Of course it does.She was already sitting very much with her girly...

I was exhausted and just sat down and she told me to move aside.I obviously lashed out.Obviously.

What has happened?Why did he lash out?Because she was sitting with her girly gang and then she asked him to move.

No, no.She said something that rage baited him.

Yeah.

And then he got exhausted and he sat down.You are the one reading it.Okay, wait, wait.

Then I don't know what struck me and I said, why are you always wearing a child's dress?

Why are you wearing a child's dress?Oh my God!Oh shit!

She was about to go out with her girly gang.She became angry and shouted at me. I apologized to her later that day and she apologized to me back.

Why did she apologize?

Because she shouted at him.Rage baited.

No, she shouldn't have apologized.Yeah.But anyway, continue.

But we haven't been the same since.No reels from her.No chat.No nothing.I wrote long paragraphs.Saying that, I was mean and she can cut me off.

She obviously replied with stop overthinking bro.I gave her a chocolate bar and a pair of earrings this friendship day.She was happy and thanked me five times at different instances that day.Even wore those earrings today and showed them to me.She said, see, she means a lot to me. I'll never be able to make a female bestie ever.Is her drifting away completely normal?

Should I give her the space to forget those three months we spent together?She likes the earrings, bro.

She doesn't like you.Is he 12?

He's 20M.

That means he's 12.Brawny.Brawny.We gotta address him as Brawny so he knows.

Okay.Okay.Think that's out of character.That completely... shatters the image that you had of them.I feel like that is what has happened in this case where she's like, okay, maybe that was not the worst thing that you could have said to someone, but... we're not, you are not who I thought you were and now we're not who you thought we are.So, am I upset?

No, I'm a grown -ass woman.I'm 20 F. And I don't want to, you know, fight over this.You gave me earrings.Thank you.You're celebrating friendship day as a 20 -year -old man.You're crazy.

Thank you for these earrings and the chocolate.

Chocolate bar.

Yeah, but We're not homies anymore, you know.

The illusion is broken.

Yeah.And she has a girly gang.Probably the girly gang was like, bitch.

Cut him off.

Who the fuck is he to tell you that you're wearing a child's dress?Let's just address that.Is he your boyfriend?Is he your fucking boyfriend?

That was wrong.As a boyfriend, you shouldn't be saying that.

As a boyfriend, you should never say that.

Child's dress.Yeah.

Okay, okay.So, he's done for her?

Yeah.

Cooked.Bro is cooked.Brownie is cooked.

He closed the case in like one statement.

Bro, honestly, now we've done this.This is the second episode we're doing this.And whatever question comes to us, if it's a guy asking it, the answer is always, no matter what the problem is, it's just go do your own thing, bro.

Yeah.Lock in.You don't have money, go do your own thing.Do something.

But that's the answer to everything, isn't it?The issue is that you can't go do your own thing because this really big problem is occupying so much headspace that you have to write to random people to help you solve this problem.Now if this problem gets solved, maybe you will go and do your own thing.

Because that's your bestie.Is that, huh?He's just like any other guy.It's not like you're not with...You have a...Not a great guy.

You don't look at him and he's like, oh, he's different from all the other boys.

Of course you do.In general, You're like, oh boy, it's bad news.But then you find one guy who's like, oh, he's nice, he's sweet, he's kind, he's not hitting on me, he'll take care of me.

And yeah.He becomes part of the girly pops.

Yeah.Every other guy would not be my friend or anyone else's friend.We want to stay away from every other guy.Every other guy is what's wrong with this world.Okay, okay.

She just saw like a side of him and...

I always thought girls keep one male best friend so that they know like this guy is just there as...

You don't have female friends, right?

I mean, no.

He tells them, I don't want to be friends with you.Yeah.

I have a lot of friends.I don't want to be friends with you.

Brownie.Alright, Brownie, you're done.So then what is the purpose of a male best friend?

To have friends.It doesn't matter if it's male or female.You should have friends.

For sure.

So then what is the purpose of a male bestie?

So you have friends who are guy friends.Girls usually have guy friends.But you know they have...This is that proper male bestie.You know when he gets labelled as he's my bestie and it's a guy.You know...

I think that label he has put on him...She's a girl after all.Yeah.

It's just a share.Unless that reel is like, send this to someone you wanna...And then they send it to you, yeah.And they're making it intentionally.

No, but sometimes you send reels to someone because you just need some... to keep the conversation.That too, but then he's like...

Have you ever fought with someone and then there's some reel you want to send them, so you save it, and you're like, when we stop fighting...

I do restrict.If I'm fighting with someone, I will restrict them so that I don't accidentally send them a reel that the fight can't be resolved like this.

It's that serious.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I save and keep.For later.When the fight stops.

I send it to myself, then you can go back to your chat and send.

But it depends.If the relationship has...There's been a while and you've fought enough times and I still send.I'll be like, okay.

Now what?

Now what?Watch it.Watch the reel.

At least we can laugh.Yeah.You fight on WhatsApp and she'll be laughing.But then you're laughing on Instagram.

Instagram no fight.

That's the best thing to do, I feel.

Yeah, so what advice do we have for...

Ronnie's cooked.He's done.He's cooked.Don't talk to girls like that.

Yeah.

Don't talk to girls like that.She's not your female bestie anymore.Just let her live.Do her thing.Okay.There is a lesson to be taken here.

Okay.

For who?No, no.Just like you.Yes, professor.

I mean Giles.Tell us.What's the lesson?

Last time also we had something similar where this guy was like really close to this girl and at some point he snapped and he yelled at her.One thing is, like, try not to yell at someone.In that case, we were like, bro, sometimes people lose their cool.It's okay.Because he hadn't said anything really bad.He was just, like, tired and sleepy.

And this girl was trying to talk to him.And he was like, I'm tired.Let me sleep.And she felt really bad.And she was supposed to ask him out that day.Yeah.

How convenient.But...So, it's okay to be frustrated and angry sometimes.But, like, I think as a guy, you should try to figure out how to not react.

As a woman as well, I feel.Just try and keep hold of your emotions and stop snapping at people.

Really?Yeah, that's the best thing.

Bronnie shouldn't have snapped.Shit would have been good.

But am I wrong to think that the idea of a guy shouting on a girl is worse than a girl shouting on a guy?Just like visually when you think of it.

It is also, bro.Because see, when a guy shouts at a girl, it comes from a very aggressive place where I feel like maybe the girls know that this guy can physically hurt me if shit gets wrong.But when a girl shouts at a guy, it doesn't come from...

It comes from a place of frustration.

Yes.So, I think that's why it's so like...

And also, if the guy is taller and the girl is short and she's shouting at him, it's cute.Like, I like seeing that.

He's like, I'll slap you.

Shut up.

We will never experience this.Yeah, but so I'm saying, just the lesson is..

.I think you're tall.

He can conclude something from this.That is the conclusion I get from this.I feel like as guys, just in general, not just with girls, it's better to be alone.Figure it out, then come back and work.And I think that if you can master that, you'll just have a better life overall.

Okay, DJ Amin Jha, thank you for that.

Okay, one last one we'll do, huh?Let's go.Walked away from a one and a half month soul type because of distance and culture.She said, don't block me.But we agreed not to text.How do I survive missing her?

You don't.I'm 20 year M and I'm from Vadodara, Gujarat.I'm in my final year of B .Tech.So I met this girl in college one and a half months ago.She's Bengali from Mumbai.

In just one and a half months going on dates and talking, she completely matched my vibe and became my world.She gave me more depth and genuineness.care than I've seen in years.She got placed in Mumbai and with the long distance cultural differences and our different life paths, We knew we didn't have a long -term future.Instead of dragging it out or fighting, we made the mature call to end it peacefully four days ago.

Nothing about this is mature.This entire message is not mature at all.

Wait, what's immature in this?

First of all, Bombay and Vadodara are like 30 minutes flight away, I think.

It's one Atal Seth, not Atal Seth, what is that fast train called?Vande Bharat away.But I don't think everyone is just one train.

One and a half months.

It's a two -hour train.No, no. 200 rupee train.I wouldn't.

You wouldn't?Why?

I don't think I've met someone.Oh, that's why.If I meet...He's like, I don't have the...I don't have the capacity for that.We both have the capacity.

Probably if I meet someone that I really like then...

Yeah, that was the question.I don't have the facilities for that.

The real puzzle.The real puzzle right now is this.We agree to completely stop texting because chatting makes it impossible to move on.Instagram and WhatsApp.

Okay.

To make things even clearer on my end, I recently completely cut off and blocked my ex -girlfriend from everywhere so there's zero baggage left in my life.My question for you guys.I have genuine deep feelings for her and I'm really missing her like crazy.How do I actually deal with this pain and move on when we are still unblocked on social media?When seeing her name right there keeps the hope alive, how do you handle it without going insane?By the way, big fan of the podcast for the last three years.

Love what you guys do.It's very raw.Keep doing this.I don't know what to say.

Bro, as a man, you can't block.

Yeah, if as a man you have blocked someone, that's the final stage.

You can't block.Why?It's such a girl thing to do, to block someone.You need to get blocked.You can't be a guy and block a girl because it's too hard for you to just see her name and not text.Are you dumb?

So why do girls block?

Girls block out of spite.

Yeah.So guys can't block like that?Guys can't be spiteful like that.

Yeah.

Arre yeh kya?See, I'll tell you, this guy, the best option that he has is next time she posts a story, click on it, press the top right key.Archive.Mute stories and posts and forget about her.Yeah.And archive the chat.

Archive WhatsApp.

Actually, I'll tell you the problem with archiving the chat, It's that the archive option keeps coming up.And then you always wait.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Why can't they?Archive 234 people.Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All such horrible people.I'm like, let it be.Let it go.Let it go down.

The message will come up.So, but why have we jumped?They can't...This is pretty...You can make it work, bro.You can make it work, but then the one and a half month is too short a time to...

Bro, but one and a half path is not too short for a two -hour train.

No, no.He also said cultural differences.

I think this woman does not want to be with him.That's why she's like, listen bro, let's not do this.Because it's very workable.Vadodara and Mumbai are like this.

Like Pune -Bombay.We might be going too deep into the distance and culture might be the main problem.

Yeah, but culture he just put subtly.

What is cultural differences?I don't...I have never...

Like an inter...Yeah, that's what he means.

All of this doesn't exist when you love someone.

Love is just a number.I have the best relationship advice, bro, I gave you the other day.

Really?Are you dating?

The best post -relationship advice I gave you.I gave you the other day when you were sitting outside.

What did you say again?Remind me.

A friend of mine has recently broken up.And then she told me how she was with this guy for 7 months.And she still remembers him, and she's like really madly in love.Not madly in love, but it was an extremely toxic relationship.And she's like, bro, I still don't know how to get over it.I said, the only time you're allowed to take time to move on from a relationship, be sad about it, is if you've seen two seasons together.

If you've seen the same season twice with somebody, means you've been in a relationship for more than one year.

Okay.What?

Yeah.

Where is the advice in this?

The advice is you can't keep pulling on to it, bro.You can't be like, bro, we were together for two months.Only one summer.

Ah, can't be sad.

You just can't.No, you can't.Don't be that person.Bro, you think about someone and you're like, you can't.

Yeah, you can't.Just don't.This is the best advice.This is the best advice.

Is that how you justify your long relationship that was really toxic that you keep going back to?Because you've seen too much.

You've done too much research on him.When I was like, oh, you know, an audience in the same two monsoons together then.

Okay.I mean, I don't think that is advice.That's just something to say.In this case, Do your own thing, bro.

No, I mean...

Lock in, bro.Go to the...Lock in.Tug it out.Right now, the distance is so crazy for you.You can't take a half -hour flight.

You're not going to meet her anytime soon.So, she's not going to be around.The texting also, like...If you want to get over her, don't text.Like, don't...

But that's what I'm saying.The best thing to do is mute her.Every...

There isn't much in this.

1 .5 months is nothing.

Approve.Approve.

I'm just approving the case.Thanks for coming.Did you have fun?

I had.Yeah.

See, no one was rude to you this time.

Right.The bar is in hell.First time was too bad.And now it is.This was good.

Good.

It was fun.

Good.One final podcast before moving.

Yeah.

Yeah.All the best.We hope you have a very good journey.

Thank you.

Come see me in New York.Try to post content.

So that we can also keep up with your life.

Yeah.You can just call me.

Like we enjoy what you create.So it's like I want to see New York through your eyes.

Got it.Thanks.

Yeah.But it is actually, jokes aside, it is actually pretty crazy that you are making this move.I have seen a lot of big creators that I used to like PewDiePie.I remember he did this content and became the biggest YouTuber in the world.And one day just he was like, you know what, I'm going to go live in Japan now.Because like I've done everything.

I've made every video.I make money.

When you have everything.

Yeah.

You're still there.I want to go live in a dorm.

Yeah, that is crazy.

When it comes to this creator thing, a lot of people are like, I just want to be at a place where I'm a big creator and I'm making money from it.And once they have it, they don't want to let it go.Like they grasp so tightly.to it until they eventually become something that we call cringe.You know, we're like, okay, he used to be he fell off.He used to be so good.

But then for you to like do this at your peak, and just commendable.

Yeah, I don't think this is my peak.I'm gonna have a peak.This is not my peak so far.No, this is not my peak so far.

I like that.Blue Mountain Statement.

Dude, I've never like, whatever I've made, I've not enjoyed making.So one day I'm going to make something that I enjoy making and that will be my pick.

Ever evolving.

I'll slap you, I mean.I'll slap you.

That's the first our guests have threatened us, but thanks.

My favorite boys in the city.

Let's go.Thank you.See you.

My guy friends.