TOP MOMENTS: Must-see moments from Bill Clinton’s Epstein Files deposition

I do think you should be talking to me. I think you should have called me. I did take those plane trips with him. And you have a right to ask those questions. So I'm glad to be here and. I understand what the oath is.

I have to be honest with you. You know. I'll be 80 years old if I live in the next birthday. I don't remember everything that happened 24 years ago, but I do remember some things and I will tell you

what I remember as best I can.

She's been described on being on a 2002 Africa trip and providing massages. Was she or any other young female on that trip underage at that time?

Not that I'm aware of.

Did you ever receive a massage or have physical contact from her or anyone else on that trip?

You've seen the pictures. There was one time when I was sitting up and I got a back row by network.

OK, and I think Shantae did it, but I'm not sure I wish Shantae had, if I neck would. Okay.

And I think Shantae did it, but I'm not sure. I wish Shantae had told me, I liked her. But I didn't think it was anything unusual. I can't tell you how many airplanes I've been on. Where rich people asked me to go and they had someone offering massage.

You know, all these boats that you go on and all that, they all do that.

Did you ever visit Epstein's Little St. James Island?

No.

We have Virginia Guffrey who has testified seeing you on the island with two young girls. Did this occur at all?

No.

Okay. Why do you think she would have made that claim?

Objection. Speculation. He can't possibly...

Have you ever met her or any other Epstein-associated underage girl?

Not to my knowledge.

Okay.

In Epstein's 2016 deposition unsealed in the DOJ files, he refused to answer if you were accompanied by two young women who were approximately 18 years old on the island. Were any such women potentially underage with you? I know you've stated that you were not there, but did you have any interaction with the

said individuals?

Objection to the foundation of the question. He's already stated he was not on the island. You're now asking about a claim of the Fifth Amendment by Jeffrey Epstein.

Okay. Is it possible and in your opinion that you and or your wife were targeted as a means of an intelligence gathering operation? Object to the form of the question.

Object to the form of the question. No objection to if he knows that they were

targeted. I believe that's what she asked. No, she said it's possible so she's asking

me to speculate instead of asking him does he know. Do you know if you were targeted at any point? I don't, but I don't. I'd sort of be surprised, but I'm not. I don't

know. Mr. President, before we left off, I asked you to characterize your relationship with Mr. Epstein. I asked you if you considered him to be a friend. You said you did not. Is that right?

I said we were friendly and we had a cordial relations, but I didn't know him well enough. Because we had almost no contact beyond what I described.

At this time, I'd like to introduce will be marked as majority exhibit 13. This is based marked Houseight 000126 and while it's being passed out this is a letter from a book of letters which is Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday. Mr. President do you recognize this letter? I do. And for the record, does this appear to be your handwriting and signature?

It is.

And why did you write this letter?

Why did I? Because I was requested to contribute a nice letter for his birthday book.

And who asked you to write the letter?

I don't know. I don't remember. Would Ms. Maxwell have asked you to write the letter? I don't know. I don't remember.

Would Ms. Maxwell have asked you?

I don't know. I think someone on my staff asked me.

Now, there's a word that our committee has not been able to identify. In our defense, the Wall Street Journal has not been able to identify it.

Imagine being on his staff.

Can you please read the letter for the record? the Wall Street Journal has not been able to identify. Imagine being on his staff.

Can you please read the letter for the record?

Yes. It's reassuring, isn't it? To have lasted so long across all the years of learning and knowing, adventures and errors, and still to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference, and the solace of friends. Not a bad letter.

And because we haven't been able to identify that word until now, what did you mean?

Which word was it that you could not?

Solace?

You couldn't?

No, no.

Errors.

Errors. What did I mean? Anybody who's lived 50 years and done anything has made mistakes as well as progress.

But for the record, you weren't referring to errors in judgment that Mr. Epstein had related to his inappropriate activities involving you.

Absolutely not. I knew nothing about that.

We have, as you know, in the files that were released there were several photos included you and we have an exhibit here that's just one of the photos. Exhibit K, Minority Exhibit K. And we'll have that passed around. What we're trying to get out is some context for the public on whether you remember this photo and any details you may be able to provide us about it. So do you recall the details of this photo or recall the photo being taken?

No, I don't think I ever knew the photo was taken. Okay, and for those who can't see it, it's a photo of you in a hot tub. There's a person next to you here. Do you remember where it was taken? Where was it taken?

I'm almost sure that this picture, and I think there's an adjacent photograph, which you probably have, that if people saw it, they would feel that someone was trying to con them, showing this picture. But anyway, this picture was taken in Brunei. And we flew one night on a trip to Asia,

the last very long leg.

He said we, who is that including?

Well, my TIL team that was working on the AIDS issue and Mr. Epstein was there and Ms. Maxwell. But anyway, we got to the end of, the end of the flight was B'nai. It's a tiny place but but a very wealthy one. And the sultan of Benai was a man that I had gotten to know well in my eight years as president.

And he — his first involvement with international matters was basically to join the Asian Pacific Economic Leaders Conference, which I started and which he attended. matters was basically to join the Asian Pacific Economic Leaders Conference, which I started and which he attended. And so and then he was very proud of that. And he hosted his time came to host it, you know, you do these things in a rotation. And it came at either at the very end of my term, or

maybe in the next year. Anyway, he wanted, when he knew I was coming, he said he wanted to help me with my AIDS initiative and he invited me to stay there. And he said, I want you to stay at this hotel and I hope you'll use the pool. So I did, and then I got out and went to bed exhausted.

Just for the record, there's another picture that also shows this as part of the larger pool area. Do you all have that so that he can refresh his recollection with respect

to that?

We should have it. It's quite enlightening. If you's noted. It will give you a different feel.

We don't have it with us right now.

Okay, thanks. I just wanted to make sure he knew the context.

And so were there other people in that pool or hot tub with you as well?

I don't think there was anybody in the hot tub. I hadn't forgotten that there was anybody in the hot tub. It was big, but it was about— Well, there's a— He's asking in the pool area.

It appears there's a girl over here.

Yeah, I don't know who that is.

But he's also asking in the pool area whether other individuals—

Yes, I don't know who that is.

Okay, so you don't know— No, and then there were other people in the pool. Okay, so do you remember who—were they under 18? No.

No. Were they part of your traveling party, he's asking you?

Yes, they were, I think. I think everybody there was part of our party. It was late at night and I also believe that there was a Secret Service agent there at the other end of the pool.

And was this in public?

No, it was a hotel room. And the Sultan wanted us to stay there. And the whole, the water, this big pool, was on the same floor that there were several suites. And so we went out, I swam around, I sat in the hot tub for five minutes, I could go to whatever it was, and I got up and went to bed.

And I have to ask this, did you engage in any sexual activity with this person? No.

Thank you. Mr. President, there's been new information that has come out regarding the autopsy of Mr. Epstein. I would just like to ask you personally and directly, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

Are you asking him to speculate on how Mr. Epstein died?

I am asking what the President thinks of...

So you're asking his opinion?

Mr. President, was your friend Jeffrey Epstein suicidal?

Are you classifying him as a friend? He has testified that he was friendly.

He has called you a asked for his testimony. Mr. President, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal? Do you know? Was he ever suicidal? She's asking the best of your understanding. I don't know. I

only know what the medical finding was. I think maybe he finally got caught and I don't know. I've accepted it in my own mind. I don't know what happened.

Mr. President, what did you accept? That he killed himself or that he did not?

That he did, but I don't know. Yes, sir. They'd used your president. None of us know. We weren't there.

Mr. President, it's been an honor. Thank you.

Again, it's from GMAX, Ghislaine Maxwell. Yeah, I, it's redacted. Having seen the unredacted files, we believe that the two is to the same email. It says, sorry to hear about the Bellsburg stuff. It's bad news, even worse, that it may be damaging. You know that one of my pet fears is that in London,

I am press toxic, so I hope that I never add to your woes in that department. If I hear anything, I will of course let you know. I could not help myself. There was one juicy little tidbit I did let out the one about what a super stud that you are and how I have a crush on you and how you are hung like a horse and Well, you get the picture. Hope you don't mind

Are you are you familiar with

With this email are you saying at the time it was sent or in the preparation for this?

At the time that it was sent. Were you familiar with? Oh, no. Are you familiar at the time it was sent or in the preparation for this? At the time that it was sent, were you familiar with it? Oh no. Are you familiar with it before? Yes, now famous.

Okay, well what can you tell me about your knowledge of this email?

So if his knowledge is only from when he was prepared for this hearing, that would have been with his counselor, is that what you're, are you asking for outside of any preparation

for this year's? Mr. President, do you believe that Mr. Band sent this or received this email?

I do.

Okay. So, and I could, there's more. Let me go to the next one. Exhibit which would be number 20.

And the answer is, I don't know. Wait a minute, there's no push.

At the time.

I would just ask you to clarify whether or not you're asking if he knows about these emails at the time they were sent, or if you're asking whether or not he came to learn about them in the course of preparation, just so that distinction in time is clear.

Okay. I believe this email is also very short. It's just at the top. Again it's from the WJC email, same one. And two, it says, this email is silly, I want to spank bottoms tonight.

Who's it from?

It is, it's from the same email account, the same email that has been used before, the WJC email. What was your knowledge of Mr. Band's relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell?

I knew he was basically he contacted her the same way that she represented Epstein on things I did not know nor did I need to know that they had a personal relationship. A physical

relationship? Are you asking him whether or not they had a personal relationship for a while. A physical relationship? Are you asking him whether or not

they had a physical relationship?

You believe they had a physical relationship?

I don't know for sure.

And just to be clear, you said it, but you did not have a physical relationship

with Gilead Maxwell.

The president's answered that question multiple times.

Your statement in 2019 about only meeting with Jeffrey Epstein on two occasions briefly. That is not a correct, I'm going to object to that characterization.

I believe you are.

That is not what the statement says.

Okay, so the third paragraph down.

You're reading the Daily Newsreel.

So to be clear. Which is a leftist rag, by the way. And on the third paragraph down it says, in his Monday statement in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein's New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail. Those are the two weeks that were referenced.

That is in addition to the trip to the statement described.

To the Daily Beast, Bill Clinton failed to mention his intimate dinner in 1995, dinner with Epstein. That's by Pilar Melendez on the 11th of July, 2019.

All right, Mr. President, your statement saying you only met with Epstein briefly twice, was that part of an effort to cover up your close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

Object to the form of the question. It misstates the record.

She's asking if you were trying to mislead the public.

No.

Okay.

How many times did Lillian Maxwell visit your home in Chappell Plath?

I have no idea.

Who invited her?

Well I don't know I don't know how she may have been.

Ms. President that's it. Okay. Hillary had political events there. Okay so is it in your is it to your knowledge was that was she at your home in Chappaqua likely because your wife had her over for Senate events?

That's what you testified earlier today, correct? It's not what he testified, but please ask the question.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I do not know but if you are

Implying the reverse I will volunteer something. She was never at my house in Chappaqua for any personal reasons. I

Didn't I didn't I didn't say anything for anything personal.

No, you didn't, but you had a great tone in your voice. And you're very good at it. Thank you.

I'll take that as a compliment.

It is a compliment.

Thank you.

And I did not go to Yale Law School or any law school for that matter.

Mr. President, did you ever make any kind of attempt to influence the media's coverage of Jeffrey Epstein. At this time I'd like to introduce what we've marked as Majority Exhibit 23. And this is Bates number EFTA 02792895.

One page. Thank you.

And this is email from Virginia Jufreray, an Epstein victim, that alleged that you walked into Vanity Fair and threatened them not to write sex trafficking articles about your good friend Jeffrey Epstein. Mr. President, is this true? No. Not no. Hell no. Not close no. Why do you think Ms. Giuffre would make these claims?

Are you asking him to have an opinion about Ms. Giuffre's point of mind? I just, can we not do that? Like, asking him about the facts that he knows, as opposed to asking about the facts in other people's minds. Mr. President, have you ever as opposed to asking about the facts in other people's minds. Mr. President, have you ever

asked any other publication to shut down a story related to Mr. Epstein? No.