Trump To Address Nation + Dave Smith Debate | PBD #767

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Obviously everybody knows when we think about what everybody wants to talk about. I've been tweeted at a million times. Pat, can you please talk about this? Can you please talk about that? We're finally going to be addressing it. Tom's tweeted at a million times. Pat, can you please talk about this? Can you please talk about that? We're finally gonna be addressing it. Tom's not wearing a tie today.

I know it's an issue for a lot of you guys. You're not happy about it. We will talk about that. There are a lot of other things that's on your mind, And it's important because last Friday, the great Sean Hannity was here. Here's a guy that's been doing this for decades.

Came out, sat down at the podcast. And by the way, it's not easy to do that. Nobody likes to do that. You know why? Especially a guy that's a decorated guy in the industry that's been doing great work his entire career.

And so thank you, Sean, for the audience that tuned in on Friday. I got a lot of commentary. I'm glad you guys had a good time together. I think the biggest complaint was we didn't talk about Iran enough, so the goal is to go two and a half hours into Iran today, so stay tuned. We're definitely going to be doing that.

And Adam's committed to bringing and doing a podcast with a significant other hopefully one of these days. We can see that happening. Gas prices are at $4. I saw the gas prices. We've got to talk about that. Humberto came in today, for no reason, I get a call from HR saying, why am I getting a

complaint to HR from Humberto for gas prices hitting $4? What responsibilities does our HR department have over that? I'm like, RJ, I don't know what to tell you. Humberto, you do one thing, he gets upset, him and Justin got into a big fight this last week in front of everybody at SLS, which was hands down the greatest event ever. Which if you were there, you know what I'm talking about. It was hands down the most epic event we put together at the Trump Doral, the people at

Trump Doral. Phenomenal experience we had there. We gotta talk about Tiger Woods. I mean, Tiger Woods, man, there's a part of me that thinks the founders of, I'm convinced Vinny, the founders of Uber and Lyft, I'm convinced they are such diehard fans that they created the company purely with the thought in mind to prevent Tiger from driving.

Because they're like, why drive knowing you get in trouble when you drive, just let us drive you. We'll take it. And we'll give you millions of drivers around the country that'll take you anywhere you want to go and he's not using it. So we got to talk about Tiger.

Rumor has it he's not going to be competing in this week's tournament that's coming up. People are devastated. Masters. Some are saying it would have been entertaining if it would have been because who knows what all this stuff. Apparently, King Charles is coming to Congress, and we have some people that are curious to

know what's going to be happening. Trump's ballroom judge says, no, time out. We're not doing this. And I think he's going to Supreme is he going to Supreme who is he going to sit down today to see the exchange of Conversation yes, he will be in the audience president will be sitting down in the audience We pass so you mean a king is coming after we just had a no kings Well, they today that's up the no kings protest there listen. It's important stuff there Vinny because we can't have a kinkier

and then Trump's addressing the nation tonight at 9 o'clock. Nobody knows what it's about. They're wondering if, you know, was he not happy with some of the trade deadlines? Was he not happy about some of the things? No one knows what he's going to be talking about.

Scott Jennings dropped it a little bit. Some people from the White House apparently leaked some information to the news that they're speculating what he's going to be talking about. We'll address that today. Maloney is apparently not that happy. Dow went up 1,100 yesterday. It's up half a point today.

Oil is right below $100 based on what Tom just told me a minute ago. Oracle's about to lay off, you know, they say 12 to 18% of their workforce. These are rumors that are speculating. Cyrus. I want to show two guys on what she said, which was very interesting. Prefer a professor jank. Do I say Professor Jang or teacher Jang? Well, I don't know what to say, but anyways, I mean, listen, good content creator, good storyteller. He's got good angles.

He had a sit down with Mehdi Hassan, and out of all the people in the world that I didn't think would have challenged him the way that he did, kudos to Mehdi. Mehdi came up and just guns blazing asked the question. So some people are claiming you may be tied to the Chinese. Is that true, is that not? It's a fair question to ask. He addressed, by the way, if you live in Canada, guys are messaging me saying, Pat, on Instagram, we can't see what valetainment does.

You know, stories, Canada doesn't allow it. That is true. We're banned in Canada. But guess what else may be banned in Canada? If you get up on stage and you say something from the Bible that contradicts some people in offense of LGBTQ, that may be considered hate speech.

And it's about to become law in the great country of Canada. That's coming soon. Mail-in order, there's a story that's coming in with that. And then a few other stories. Hopefully we'll make it through all these stories that we have here. Having said that, a couple of things I do want to tell you guys.

We got a lot of messages, Pat. You know, Monday, who do I go to if we don't have the podcast we were expecting? We changed the business podcast. Yesterday, I sat down with Lee Strobel for two hours. Great conversation. The author of Case for Christ. Tomorrow, we're going to have Richard Werner to talk about the economy.

We want to hear the exchange and the podcast keeps climbing every time we're doing a podcast it climbs and it happens because of you Guys and I'm grateful for you and for the 51% of you guys that tune in on a weekly basis We would like to take that down to 25% 51 of you 51 percent of you that watches this who doesn't subscribe, it would mean the world to us if you do so. We're real close to getting past 3 million. We'd like to take this thing to 5 million subs and take Valuetim into 10 million subs.

Valuetim is right now at 7.1 million subscribers. That only happens with your help. So if you don't mind subscribing to the channel, that would be wonderful. We're grateful for that. And next, many of you said, hey, I couldn't make it to the SLS. We have people from 40 plus countries attend Sales Leadership Summit, the greatest event

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If you want to find out more about the event, click on the link below. Get the recording. It's officially available for you to get. Having said that, let's get right into it. Opening topic that I want to address with you guys is this. Adam, you were on the Dave Smith, you and Dave Smith did a debate together on, what

do you call it, on Piers Morgan. I think that's the first time you were ever on. Obviously, the market has responded. And they've been, you know, saying their thoughts on how it went, what you did, what was said. Davis retweeted and said something about this is the end of Adam funeral. He made some comments that went viral.

You've responded. You made some videos at him as well. But I just want to kind of get, because a lot of times from the audience, you have to know how this works. The audience sits there and watches and says, I know for a fact Pat prepped him and the team prepped him and this and this and that and they don't know what happens.

I want you to share with us because the audience is curious.

They're asking me, what is your impression on how you did on the debate with Dave Smith. Well despite what you think I haven't listened or watched any of the internet comments. I don't go onto Twitter, I don't check the comments, it's just not something that I do. Some people are messaging me on my neck, what do you think, I don't know what people are saying stuff and I'm listening to a song called, ain't nothing gonna break my stride, ain't nothing gonna slow me down and that's how I feel about this. So they told me last minute, hey, you're gonna go on Pierce Morgan. Sure, I think Tom was maybe gonna do it.

Tom wasn't able to do it. They called me up. I said, sure, I'll debate Dave Smith. Listen, there's no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well read. The same thing could be said about when you debated a room full of 20 communists on Jubilee. They were all very smart. I was very impressed by all these people. But just because you're smart doesn't mean you're wise.

Now, do I think Dave Smith is smart and capable? Sure. Do I think he's funny? No. Do I think he's right?

Definitely not. I'm asking you, how do you think you did?

I think I did fine. My intention wasn't to play nice. So I went on Pierce Morgan, I don't really have plans, I'm going on Pierce Morgan every single day. That's not my thing, it's a food fight every single day, respect to Pierce Morgan. I wanted to make some waves, that was my methodology.

I could be right, I could be wrong, I don't care.

Okay, so- The problem is this-

He continues to say that America is the greatest terrorist regime in the world What and that the and that Israel is the greatest in the Middle East so what that's his argument sure That's his argument my point. Yeah, was that only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians. He's a hardcore radical libertarian. So when you wrote the book Choose Your Enemies Wisely, you said, who's your enemy? I said, I don't know who my enemy is. I don't really have a lot of enemies.

You know me, Pat. It's a big difference in the internet and comments in real life. I walk around in real life.

I have zero issues.

You don't have issues there. So the conversation that I was just basically establishing is that Dave Smith as Potent as he might be on a podcast or even on Joe Rogan's for that matter people don't support this guy

I support our troops. I support America. I support our allies. I think I think Joe's had him on 20 30 times irrelevant No, it's not irrelevant. It's so ask whether you agree with the guy or not You know Joe likes Dave, right? So the question you got to ask yourself is, from my perspective, there is issues, there is approach, there is what's next for you. When I look at everybody in the marketplace, including myself, everybody in a marketplace,

including myself, I leave and I say okay how am I recreating myself for this next phase? What areas do I have where it's a leak for me? What habits do I have that I need to pay attention to? When we started building an insurance company, yesterday I had Lee Strobel on, we had a great conversation together. One of the guys that was studied a lot was Billy Graham. And Billy Graham and his friends in in 1948, they came up with something called the Modesto

Manifesto. And at that time, there was a lot of pastors that were getting caught up with young girls. And they came up with this thing saying, hey, what are our threats? And they came up with the threats that they had. It was four things. One of the ones was pastors hooking up with members. Number two was churches taking advantage of the members with money.

Number three was the ego of a pastor when you get on stage and you feel like you are God. Some pastors actually become God-like because of how much the church fears them and they like them anyways. They go through this. I said, okay, how do we want to build this company?

It's very hard. So you've got to think about ways to improve. I'm asking you. The argument is one end, because I don't know if you focused on making a, I've seen you make better arguments with Bassem Yusuf than you did with Dave Smith. I didn't see you making arguments on Dave Smith.

where you're coming from, where the expectation is, hey, where are you going? Be professionals. That's not how I handle debates. I don't handle debates that way. That's not my MO. So if you're close to me and you're handling it that way, that is not my style.

I don't do stuff like that. And Dave and I don't even agree on some of these issues. If I'm having a conversation, it's about what is this next phase. By the way, the reason why I'm having this direct feedback with you publicly is for the following reason. This is how I roll at them. I will give you private feedback and have your back 100%.

I've always been like that. This is why my guys like working with me, and they know how tough it is at times because I'm always challenging them. But if my private feedback that I'm giving doesn't land, and it feels like you have immunity to go run around and say whatever you want and keep saying, I don't give a shit what people say, I do.

There's an approach to take about this game. I don't care that we have differences and debates. We push each other here and we have arguments and, you know, comment, I side with Vinny today. You know what? Today, actually, I side with Adam. You know, there was a couple moments we had where you had a couple clips

of like they sided with you. I think Adam's the point today. And I'm like, oh, okay, Adam had a point. You were off today, no problem. But it's recreating for the next phase of what is that next phase for you. And that's a very important thing for you to be thinking about. I've had that conversation with him, recreating himself. I've had the conversation with him, recreating himself.

I have the conversation openly with me on what I need to recreate. But for me, when I saw that, I'm like, you know, you brought up another guy from the past that be Dave great You know you brought up a note there needs to be the the the Adam that I've seen debate that is prepared He actually would have made some real good points there and you by the way you've been a moderator for zero hedge with Dave Smith and and what he called it a Laura loomer if I'm not mistaken is that what you didn't you moderate?omer, if I'm not mistaken. Is that what you did?

Didn't you moderate? Yeah. And I was a pretty good job you did as a moderator. So I don't know. I'm saying this publicly to say this next phase requires all of us to recreate ourselves and that includes you in a big way.

And I've said this privately eight weeks ago, nine weeks ago at that dinner place we went to and I was very direct with you. But you're cornering me to have to say this publicly to you right now. And you have to make a decision on what you want to do with this next phase. You got to recreate yourself. It's a very important thing. I'm being very respectful to you.

And you had no idea that I'm going to go here this morning. You had no clue I'm going. podcast to do this because obviously Monday I couldn't be here. We had certain things that was going on. This weekend I had, what do you call it? SLS. Sean Hannity did it last Friday.

So I changed everything and Rob and I, we had to talk about it yesterday and calendar to do it this way. But for me, sometimes you don't want people say, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care. And sometimes this is like the Trump effect. Well, Trump doesn't care. Well, Trump doesn't give a shit. Well, Trump doesn't do this.

Well, contrary to popular belief, Trump looks at every poll. Trump listens to every comment. Trump listens to every criticism. So what you think that Trump does, I'm not telling you go read the comments the next day and go through all chat. I don't recommend that at all. But I do believe a little bit of criticism to see, well, maybe there's a little bit of credibility there.

There's a little bit of value there for me to receive. How can I receive this and recreate myself? Because if you're not too careful, Adam, and I'll open it up to you guys if you want to I don't have one. This is not April Fool's joke. I know what day today is this is not you know I've had certain friends of mine that are very good at I used to be very good at the April Fool's stuff I don't have one today But this is the part I want you to be thinking about. Is the market is going to criticize you.

There's a very big difference between the bots. I read a comment yesterday, made the most disrespectful comment to me. And the first thing I did, I went to the account. It got started in February of 2026. It has two followers, follows 6,000 accounts. That's a bot of somebody that created to say it.

Forget about the bots. There are some people that are giving real feedback that we have to pay close attention to because we can disagree. Even with the Dave Smith part. Dave Smith's issues, we can sit down and have a debate over the number and I can still do it respectfully.

Even when I went to Jubilee, they disrespected me, I didn't disrespect the kids when I spoke to them. Our position has to be a different position. And even when Trump calls out, he still is very paying attention to the likability score that he has.

Love him or hate him, people likeability score that he has.

Love him or hate him, people like him. I'll pause. Vinny, any thoughts you had?

Can I just respond real quick?

Of course, absolutely.

So I'll just break this down real quick. We didn't have this discussion prior. Just kind of preemptively brought this up and I'm totally okay with it. If I wanted to have a ideological debate with Dave, I would probably rephrase it that the world is a dangerous place and he wants to pretend that he's an ostrich and

Not engage with anybody so you know to use an analogy if this guy was a dating coach He would say just sit at home all day and wait for women to knock on your door And that's when you can respond to women the world doesn't work that way if you're a sales coach or if you're a sales manager That's like saying just just stay stay by the phones

What do you think's the outcome of a debate? But the outcome of a debate forget Dave Smith for this isn't a Dave Smith conversation that could have been Joe John doh I'm not talking the point is that I'm trying what is the purpose of a debate? We're not a lot What is the purpose of a debate to find the truth to the purpose of the clash of ideas? Sure, so somebody can watch and say wow good point never thought about it that way

Let me go back and look, wow, good point. Never thought about it that way.

Let me go back and look at it. That is the purpose of a debate. The purpose of a debate is for me to look at something, like the moment where Hillary Clinton and Trump are going at it, and Hillary says, you know, him and all his, he didn't her donors do and by the way you've been there for 36 years how come you've never changed it so me as the voter sits there and says that's a very good point you've been there

for 30 that's the debate it gets people thinking sure so if I'm going into a debate, and I didn't make anybody think What was the purpose of debate sure well now? Fair point well the point that I was trying to make is that ideologically we're not aligned here I'm sure putting Trump was I supporting Trump for five ten years No, you were not so I'm all behind Trump everybody wants to criticize Trump right now the thing that I'm basically Establishing is the fact that this guy has a luxury of living in America and wants to criticize the heck out of Trump when I'm defending Trump and our troops.

The point that I was saying is I'm defending Trump. Dave's the type of person that'll root for the bad guy in the bad movie. So that's who Dave is. Aside from that, other than that I understand what you're talking about. The event. Here's what's going on. The SLS is coming this weekend. Here's what's going on. I have conveyed it a little bit better? Sure. Should I have not brought up someone else's debate in my debate? Maybe I'll learn that for the next time. That's fine. I just but the reality is this he got whooped and I called him out on it. That's all it was.

Yeah, but it was it was your fight and his. Sure for the next time I'll debate him just heads-on. I brought up something that from the past. Well, my feedback isn't actually that. My feedback is It's okay to pay attention to the pulse of the market, every once in a while, good feedback's being given. Not 80% of people, not 90% of people, but there are reasonable people

that will give you good feedback. And none of us, there's not a single human being in the world that actually likes to be given feedback that we get excited about it. So it's not like anybody likes it, but it's in those moments where your character

is being tested to say, you know what? Let me receive some of this and see if there's some good feedback and in process

I'm gonna turn us over to Vinny. I'll just say one thing. Yeah, you know what Vinny and I do when you're not around What's that? We say hey, what feedback do you have for me? What feedback for me? We actually talk we actually convey

How many times we done? But the difference is, you know what the difference is? What's that? Here's the difference. So this event at SLS, I asked the question because I used to always look at my guys and judge them on how hard they work, how great they're on scripts, how many books they read, and all this stuff.

Eventually, I'm like, let me look at it in a different way. It was, how much information does this guy retain from what I teach? So you teach something, this guy retains 10%, that guy retains 20%, this guy retains 30%. Then the next thing is, okay, so he's winning on retaining information.

He's smarter than you, let's just say, hypothetically, right? Okay, now the next part is what? What's after retention?

Implementation. Execution. So he only implements of the 30% he retained 5%. He retained 20% but he executes 20%. You retain 10% but you know implement 50%. Then it comes to coachability, then it becomes the speed of implementation, then all of that stuff. Feedback is feedback. It's receiving and implementing that matters. That score of coachability high low, low, is the difference between you and Vinny.

And that's the coachability marker that I want you to be internalizing for yourself. So Vinny, again, I don't wanna be on this too long, I wanna move on, but if you wanna say something, say it. This'll take me two minutes. From a debate point of view,

cause I'll give both sides, yelling, talking over each other. People don't realize you're in a van, you're sitting in the sun in Florida. I'm red. I know you were hot. Even what's his name was in there.

Uh, Jaden was in there. People are like, he's on cocaine. I read the comments cause I want to know debate, which nobody wants to do. You were a little off. I felt, because I know you as a brother, I know that you were nervous.

This is what bothered me, Adam. We are in here, and I know what's gonna happen today on this podcast. Israel's gonna be brought up, and we're gonna go into it. You are amazing at that debate, and I was disappointed, because you're in the moment the moment you refer to whatever you have the arsenal you had the ammunition

You had this big-ass arsenal, and you just use the pistol You were just like kind of going after and doing personal And I was disappointed because I was like yo you have it you have it you didn't use it And this is my attitude when I was young and I'd get my ass what my mom would like you're gonna go outside

You're gonna fight that guy right now. You're not to sit here and let it fester. I know that you're going to do it. You have to debate them again. You have to do it again. Okay.

All right, Tom, you don't look like you have anything to say. It's all good.

We can.

I don't have anything.

Tom, it's all your fault.

No, no, no, no, no.

So Rob, do we want to get into what the President's going to talk about tonight?

Sure.

Nine o'clock. So there was an announcement made that tonight the President at nine o'clock will be addressing, be given an address to the nation to provide important update on Iran. A lot of people are speculating what this could be about Why would there be an emergency Scott Jennings yesterday? I think on CNN or something kind of alluded to two to three weeks the war is gonna be over

There's a bunch of different is this it Rob that Scott brought up go ahead and play this clip

I think tomorrow night based on what I'm hearing We're gonna get a couple of things from the president Probably a recitation of how he sees the last four or five weeks, the military successes we've had, the fact that we've obliterated their navy, we've obliterated most of their missile and drone capacity, and the fact that we did take out the previous regime. And now we're talking to new people that I think the president and

the administration believe are somewhat more willing to have a reasonable conversation. I also believe we're probably going to hear how he sees the next two to three weeks when we will wrap up what he sees as our military objectives and hopefully you know bring our large-scale operations to a conclusion in a way that meets all the objectives the nuclear stuff the missiles the Navy. Tom what do you think

it's going to be about tonight? I think Scott Jenning is right. There's also been supposedly leaks to major news. It was a journal. I don't have confirmation on those, but the journal apparently had the same thing. Was that the president's going to say, we have a plan, it's two to three weeks. And yesterday, the market bounced a thousand points on the voice of the president just saying, hey, you know what, I think we got to wrap this thing up.

He said some things that kind of shocked people where he's like, well, you know, it may wrap up and the Straits of Hormuz may not be exactly open yet. We may have to negotiate that afterwards, but we're going to be leaving very soon. The market loved that and it jumped on it. the objectives have been met so we didn't just go in have a mess leave the regime in place and now those regime are gonna bust heads of the poor people who

just want a free Iran in the future and the rest of us that want a free free

We were at the State of the Union how long ago? When was that? That was in about a month ago. Something like that. So this is sort of an updated thesis about what's going on in the State of the Union. I think he's going to say three things.

you it'll be a handful of times talking about how weak and inept he was and basically not even running the show over there. That the world that the world respects the United States again. And, you know, we've had that conversation about respect over being liked. I'm sure Trump would like to be liked but he'd rather be respected, he'd rather be both but I think the world respects us again even if they don't like us. That's number one. Number two, he's gonna talk about the border because that's basically what he ran on. Not Epstein, not any of this

other sort of nonsense that's peripheral. He ran on the border and he shut it down. ICE could have gone better but he's not going to probably throw ice under the bus and he's going to talk about that the Dems represent chaos and he represents law and order. Obviously there was just a no kings protest this week. Ridiculous. Trump's not a king. So and the last but not least I think he's going to bring up what's going on obviously in the Islamic Republic of Iran. I'm done referring to them as Iran. They're the Islamic Republic of Iran that took over greater Persia and Iran. And he's going to talk about stability through strength. I talked about this in the last podcast.

I'm also done sort of using the Reagan doctrine, peace through strength. We're never going to have peace. Peace is done. All right. You want a piece of you here, a piece of you there. That's what's going to happen when you negotiate with these terrorists.

Stability through strength. We just need to have some regional calmness so the world isn't going chaotic. And then that's what I think he's going to do. And last but not least, I think he's going to sprinkle a little bit out the midterms because I don't think it's trending in the right direction. But we saw what happened last year when there was supposed to be a red wave and that never happened.

So we'll see what happens this time.

I think I mean, I think Iran is going to be that the majority of Americans are not happy with it, which whatever, it's a war. It's not going to be clean and everybody's going to be like, oh yeah, I love it. And I saw another thing that the Democrats apparently, there's a 43 percent chance that the Democrats are going to sweep the presidency, the House, and the Senate, which is the first time I think in the history that's gonna happen. I think sometimes when you know people are talking everything the president the leader of the free world needs to come up and just say what he has to say plain and simple come out and say Adam you said something about peace and I've been I've been thinking about

this a lot peace in that region the only way you are ever we I hate when I hear peace in the Middle East it's not gonna happen unless everybody there comes to Christ I'm being dead serious, everybody in that, Jew, Muslim, everybody, comes to Christ, you're never gonna have peace. Because Christ is about what?

Loving him and loving your neighbor. All those neighbors, it'll never happen, nobody wants to talk about that. All of them have to come to Jesus Christ. And I don't want want to sound like a preacher up there on the stage. That's the only way. So it's a fallacy to think that they're ever going to get, oh, we're going to love and shake hands.

It's fake. But I think he does have to, Pat, he has to come out today and go, hey guys, listen. Everything that's going on, this is what I want, this is what's going to happen, and this is what's going to do. of his mouth, we have to see action and I get it. I'm one of these people, Pat, that falls for the, I'm very impatient. Ask anybody that knows me, when I say I'm going to do something, I do it. When somebody says they're going to do it, I want it like this.

And I'm just impatient. I need to teach myself, calm down. He's only been in, he's been in for a year. This war is a couple of weeks in. which I know we're going to talk about that, but I trust him. I've said this many times. I trust a guy that since the 80s, guys, I know we'll get there. 80s has sat- Play the clip, Rob.

Yeah, go for it. This guy, and I've, especially during 2016, he loves this country. He's warned us about China. And in this clip, he warned about Iran.

for the presidency I'm here because I'm personally tired of seeing this great country of ours being ripped off. But as far as Trump is concerned our allies are only part of the problem the real culprit is Iran. Why couldn't we go in and take over some of their oil which is along the sea? How would you do that? Would you send in the Marines? Would you take a chance in the war? Let them have Iran, you take their oil. That's what I...

How? How? I mean do we want a war? What do you mean you take their oil? You go in... How do we go in? You're gonna have a war by being weak. Okay, how do we go in what do we excuse me? You're going to have a war and it's going to start in the Middle East What if the Soviet Union said you do this to Iran? We're gonna come in I don't believe they do it the next time Iran attacks this country go in and grab one of their big oil installations

Let me tell you something. What year was that? 1987. He's talking about I might be running for president.

Just so you know, 39 years.

I was 7 years old.

So I mean, are you kidding me? If the people that are basically saying that Trump is compromised, this is the one clip that they didn't want coming out. Because he's been sort of piecemealing, listen, Iran's never going gonna have a nuclear weapon. We're being held hostage by this regime. This is almost 40 years ago. He's basically saying I'd go in and do exactly what he's doing now. This hurts everybody's credibility that's basically trying to compromise Donald Trump.

I actually wish that he ran for president then because he wouldn't be dealing with this 40 years later. Because right now he's basically cleaning up the mess that every single president, every

single leader would not deal with. That every single press I think no matter when you run. I think no matter when you run I'm convinced this arguments not gonna be a way I think there's always gonna be a community that's gonna come and say you guys are owned by Israel your puppet You're this you're that you know BB tells you what to do. He's you I think that's gonna happen I think no matter when you run They're gonna say because in Iran when you run, they would call the Shah that he is a, his puppet masters are the presidents, he's a puppet of people in the US, you know, and then there's always

going to be the Elizabeth Warrens that are going to say these rich people are too rich and we got to tax them. There's always going to be the people that want to go to war. There's always, there's certain players are always going to be there no matter when you run for office. I think one thing that the president's probably thinking about tonight Rob if you got that clip of him being asked about Iran has threatened to hit some companies And his answer may be one of his best answers

I've heard because apparently folks Iran has access to certain weapons Like I just want you guys to know when he explained that some of you guys are gonna be concerned with this and you need to be this is very scary because President Trump just leaked what weapons Iran has Not a fan. That is go go ahead. Go ahead Rob

With what what are they threatening with PB guns?

I don't know. I mean, what are they you made a statement? What are they threatening with? PP guns or they don't have much left to threaten. My question for you is, are you?

I don't know.

I mean, what are they? You made a statement. What did they threaten them with?

I don't know. Tell me, how did they threaten them?

Well, all I know is that they threatened him, sir.

What does that mean? Fair enough.

He said something nasty. You have the government in what the threat was. What was the threat? I haven't heard it. What was the threat?

Did they say they're going to blow them up? They're going to hit them. They're not. You know what they're not going to do? They're not going to hit him with a nuclear weapon. Bingo.

Is this something you're concerned about, sir? Most of those people are dead already. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I think a part of tonight if you think about it There's a few things that's going on that he has to find a way to accelerate getting this war done with I think he has To do that. I don't think he has the people like he thinks he has to extend this I think if he if he has to extend this. I think if he continues, you know, at the beginning when they started, everybody was like, three

to four weeks. I'm like, nah, it's probably three to six months. Where are we at now, by the way? What day are we at right now, Rob? What's the exact date? I want to say it's been one month. 39, 40, day did it start? Day 32, okay? Is that what it says, Rob?

Is that today's? Yeah, day 32. So day 32, I said three to six months. They have to get it wrapped up. If he gets it wrapped this, and who cares? Compared to Afghanistan and Iraq, it was still a bad one.

We should have never gone and done it. Okay, the one person that you're not going to win, set those aside because that's noise. That's going to be there, no problem. Then there's going to be the guys that no matter what he does, he can't do anything wrong in. I do think if this thing goes past three to six months, I don't think it's going to be a favorable thing for them at all.

I think if it goes anywhere near midterms, it'll be destruction. It'll be the kind of loss they haven't seen in a long time. And that's going to be on his resume if that happens. So I do think he understands. See, this is the part about Trump that most people don't give him enough credit for. He does this. He's always doing this. He is checking. It's something everybody has to be doing. He does this. He's

checking the pulse and he asks, what is the market saying? What are people saying? Who's not happy? Who said what? What's going on? What's trending? What's he wants to hear from everybody on what's going on? One of the things he realizes, do you really want to go into the World Cup having a war going on? I don't think so. You said it's not going to be a long one.

I think one of the main concerns he has is he's got to get this thing wrapped up fairly quickly rather than longer. But he also learned something because what did Maloney come out and say, Rob? What's the thing that Maloney came out and said? Do you have that clip? Maloney, apparently, came out, and everybody remembers when Maloney was running, it was like, oh my God, she's so great, Italy.

She's conservative. She's going to be able to do this to Italy. We need somebody like this. And then apparently Maloney came out a little bit criticizing. Italy refuses U.S. aircraft use of Sicily's base for Middle East operations, sources say. This is yesterday.

Okay? This is yesterday. Okay, this is yesterday. So he also learned with NATO NATO wanted us to fund the hell out of Ukraine and help him out But and that's not even our war But now when us comes out with a decision on something they want to do NATO says no So I think some of these relationships they're gonna be tricky moving forward. I think he learned a lot about all his enemies

I think Rubio learned a lot about a lot of his enemies. I think Rubio is going to be seeing what's going to happen in 2028 when he's running to campaign. This led to a number coming up, Rob, of where, you know, JD Vance is at versus Rubio. I just think there's a lot of stuff that's going on that Trump needs to know. He knows that if he continues.

Is this it, Rob, the plus minus? Yes, sir. Yeah, watch this, folks. I want you to watch the plus minus. There's nothing that matters more than the plus minus. Go ahead, Rob.

But that is down 8% from 2025. Forget that there's nothing that matters more than the plus-minus go ahead Rob Jb down a 25 moving up look at Rubio to 30 plus 33 33% the census down 5 I think you'll be there

Junior to Cruz Hexhead your Ted Cruz There's a couple names that are not here that will be there next year as well in 2027, 2028 when they run. I think there's a lot of things going on. I think that the president, you can pause it right there. I think the president want this thing to be over and move on. And there's going to be a lot of criticism to say, did we finish it? Did it end?

Did you finish the job? Was it a regime change? He said the other day, he says, the regime change already happened three times since we started a war. Because he's saying, they killed the first guy, they killed the next layer. So he said, we've done three regime changes already in a month.

I mean, he's being factual.

He's being factual about saying something like that. But the regime collapse hasn't happened yet.

We saw the video with all the ships how close they're getting. What is the latest with that Tom? Well the the US has dispatched Another aircraft carrier from Newport they've dispatched the Nimitz To go to the Mediterranean in support that left Virginia, I believe it is. And so all the show of force and all the resources are there. The Tripoli is there, the Boxer is right behind it now, which is another assault carrier. And so everything is being set up.

All the chess pieces are there for whatever final onslaught they want to make. Karg Island, the, I'm going to pronounce it terribly, Coastal Corral Island, which is the Long Island, which is right at the hook of the Strait of Hormuz. So either one of those. So all the military assets, Pat, are there to take advantage of it.

And then as you properly pointed out, you know, you have NATO flip-flopping. They're reacting to energy prices. They're reacting to their own polling at home. So what do they do? Oh, well, we're not completely with them.

Spain says, we'll close the airspace. Oh, we'll close the airspace, says France. Oh, you can't use, you know, Sicily, says Italy. So it's like, come on. I'm anxious to hear what he says tonight. But everything is there.

If they wanna take Karg Island or they wanna get hot, everything is there as well as what people, we have moved over there a ton of A-10 Warthogs. And the A-10 Warthog is a massive Gatling cannon with an airplane attached. And so we have everything we need over there. And then this weekend, Pat, we're hearing that B-52s, which is a 70-year-old platform, are flying bombing missions unmolested. So

the surface-to-air missiles, Vinny, all those things that you would come up against are not happening. So it's like we need to get on to the surrender or whatever it is, Pat. And I think we got all the assets in position.

Vinny.

Well, when they say, you know, boots on the ground, which you've been hearing since this

started. While you're saying that, play that clip about the report of trying to do a gotcha with Pete Hexett of Boots on the Ground, Rob, you may want to play that clip. And Vinny, I'll come to you.

Go for it.

There's been lots of media coverage that suggested a ground invasion is imminent. What other purposes might the soldiers and the Marines who have been deployed over to the Middle East serve in this conflict?

Well, just like the previous question, it's sort of military 101. Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do. And don't tell your enemy when you're willing to stop. Especially an enemy that likes to hide in bunkers and try to hoard their missiles and hope he'll wait you out.

So that's not a question I'm gonna answer or the president has said definitively. We have our own goals and guidance and things were military objectives that we're moving toward and things that we look at and has he's articulated you know he said four to six weeks six to eight weeks three it could be any any particular

number but we would never reveal precisely what it is because our goal is to finish those objectives and we're well on our way and the chairman and I look at this every single day it will be the president's determination and the president's determination alone.

I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm a military strategist, but I mean, he's the Department of War. He's the leader. He makes fantastic points. You don't tell the enemy, but if this does, because they're saying that they want to send ground troops, that's where it gets dangerous.

The moment boots hit the ground, you have to think about this, Pat. Iranian drones, the missiles, ground fire, explosives, mines, all that. And I have to be honest, I'm with you in the three to six, but now with ground troops, I think it goes a little bit past six months, potentially a year.

Because think about it. You can go six to 12 months. I think it goes, I think- If it goes six to 12 months, it's going to be a bloodbath. I agree. But, Lucas, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Here's a question for you, for all of you, Tom. So let's just say it goes, one, say they go, regime collapse, they go in similar to Venezuela,

they take over, IRGC is done, one. Two, they say they got rid of all the nuclear weapons, all the nuclear capabilities, everything, that's the next case.

Two.

Three, they just get out, and they do PR, messaging, we got the job done, we did what we went there, what we were supposed to do, but everybody's like, wait a minute, messaging was off. You said you're going to do this, you said you're going to do that, you said you're going to do this, but none of that stuff happened, right? Which one, which event that happens between now and the midterms is going to help Republicans the most?

Which event?

I think option two.

Which is what?

We went in there, we took out all their enriched uranium and all that stuff and now we're going to help them, I guess, with leadership or something like with Reza Pahlavi, who said, I'm going to wait for all this craziness to stop, and then I'm going to come in and help

them leave. Is there anything they can do with Iran for it to be favorable for Republicans during midterm? Give me the most favorable situation for it to happen, for the market to be like, oh my God, he did it again, they're going to sweep the midterms is going to be insane. What is that one event that could happen with Iran?

The most favorable is because BB just came out. I told Rob, I sent this to Rob. You don't have to pull up. BB Netanyahu has declared that Iran is no longer poses an existential threat to Israel. That means all the weapons to hit Israel is gone which is great news okay the only way Pat that this like the best news is guys all the uranium all the missiles are

gone and by the way we've been kind of on the side having leadership like having a government where the people want this guy they want Reza and this guy and guys they're gonna start taking over which we don't have to put no regime change or nothing the people have chosen that's the only way people are gonna be like okay you guys kept it kind of secret but okay good for you

Adam I'm actually a very glad that you're asking this question because this is the number one question all I've been focusing on is the signal through the noise of what's going on here so Rubio came out and said it. Here it is. He says, you want to know what the objectives of the war are? Actually, play that clip.

Here they are. Actually, play that clip. That's what I want to go over. Yeah, play the clip of what Rubio said, and then, Adam, I'll come back to you.

I'm not even sure if this is the clip, but go ahead.

I think this is it.

Of that there is zero doubt. If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim, is nuclear energy, well they could have nuclear energy, like all the other countries in the world have it, and that is you import the fuel and you build reactors above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from the public glare,

and they want to enrich that material. The same equipment that they could use to enrich material for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they have turned it down. But why the attack now? Well Well what was Iran trying to do? Iran was trying to build a conventional shield, in

essence have so many missiles, have so many drones, that no one could attack them and they were well on their way. We were on the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles and so many drones that no one could do anything about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run by radical Shia clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the future ever possess nuclear weapons.

And under no circumstances can they be allowed to hide and protect that program and their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that no one can do anything about. This was our last best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that conventional shield that they were trying to build, and the president made the right decision to wipe it out now. That is the goal of this operation, to destroy their

conventional missiles and their drone program so they can't hide behind it and finally have to deal with a world seriously about never ever having nuclear war. Yeah, I mean listen sometimes you don't need to debate a million different things when someone comes out and tells you. Now here's the question I'll ask do you believe Rubio? Because for me when I see Rubio, I have a very calm presence. I know he's not gonna say anything bombastic. I know he's not gonna try to antagonize people. I actually think that Rubio is a very stabilizing voice in the Trump administration.

And the poll that we just showed proves it.

Plus 33.

Yeah. So to me, this is how I process this. This is a moral and just war that needed to get done. Trump is the man of the hour and he needed to be the person to do this. We've done it. 1987, he talked about this.

How many presidents have we had since then? 10 different presidents, whatever it's been, nobody's done anything. Or they haven't done anything enough to basically mitigate this threat from Iran. So Rubio comes out there and says, listen guys, there's three very clear objectives.

Number one, we're gonna completely destroy their military. All their capabilities, their air force, their navy, their ballistic missiles, why? Because they have this shield. How many times did he mention shield in that little two-minute speech? At least three times. Because basically shielding their nuclear ambitions. And yes, they have nuclear ambitions. That's not even a doubt. Last but not least, we're gonna defeat their terror network, which was they've done with their allies Israel, namely.

So they can't basically fly their planes, which we just took out their air force, so they can't fly their planes to drop off weapons to Hezbollah or to Hamas or the Houthis. So to me, this is stability through strength. Iran is never, listen, I know you've talked about being sort of like the doomsday approach. We got to take them all out. In my approach, this is it.

We're completely defanging these people. They use that term. You guys want to be radicals, you want to be Shiite, radical Muslims, go right ahead. You want to kill your own people? Do you, buddy.

We think you're disgusting. We don't agree with you. If you want to do this thing in your neck of the woods, that's all you, but you're not going to hold the rest of the world hostage like North Korea.

And I'm so glad that Trump and Rubio have this moral clarity to mitigate this cancer. You know what you just made me think about what the president could announce tonight? Let me tell you what he could announce tonight. You know what will be a massive announcement tonight? How much has the war cost so far? Is it 33 billion, 35 billion, 40 billion? What's the number right Rob? How much has the war cost us so far what's the number no it's a higher number than that I saw 25 billion okay let's just say let's say 25 to 35

billion dollars and then they asked for an extra I think 200 million billion with a B exit asked for 200 million but let's say so far. It's cost 25 to 35 billion dollars. Okay Imagine he comes out tonight and he says hey big announcement We just officially finalized a deal that UAE

MBS Qatar and the Gulf states have decided to fund the war against Iran. You won't be paying for it. They have decided, and here's what the message is from them. Now what do they say? So imagine, so the argument of finances and taxes, that goes away. He says, imagine how much the people who are against this war, they said finances first.

Imagine how important this has to be to the Gulf states, where they're sitting there saying, we don't want any of this. I want to play you two clips. We don't want any of this so much that guess what? We're willing to pay for it. You know how you got $18 trillion of companies that committed, countries that committed to

investing here. What is it to couple these Gulf states to say I'll give you $200 billion? We'll fund it. We'll pay for it. If that announcement is made tonight, but let me tell you, it shuts a lot of people up. Let me tell you why I think that's a possibility. Rob, do you have that clip from MBS explaining what his thoughts were?

I think I sent that. You should have it somewhere where he's talking about Iran and then after that I want you to go to one other clip and then I'm gonna go to the other stories if you don't have it I can text it to you. It was in my notes, by the way, okay. Let me just send this over. It's in my notes I'll just text it to you Rob. I'll make it easier for you Rob and I you know, listen, we text 50 100 times during the podcast that nobody knows. Rob, we're on texting mode at this point. Rob, if you want to go to, I just texted it to you.

Right there. I want you to watch this. MBS.

Who is MBS? The king.

The king.

Pretty heavy duty guy, right?

Play this clip. Play this clip.

Go ahead, Rob.

Go ahead.

There's an Iranian regime that we all know has a purely ideological goal. Its aim is not to serve the interests of Iran or the Iranian people, but rather to serve the Iranian ideological interests. There has been plenty of evidence over the past 30 years, the most recent being when they received $150 billion and didn't even build a single street housing complex. Their goal is clear that they only spend that money on launching missiles at Saudi and supporting

terrorist organizations in many parts of the world. Furthermore, the Iranian regime's work in supporting terrorism is not limited to Hezbollah or Houthis. We find today that many of the Al Qaeda's leaderships are based in Iran, including the son of Osama bin Laden, who was nurtured and raised in Iran, and now is trying to become the next leader of al Qaeda.

We are all aware of the risks, and we are communicating on how to deal with them to ensure that the entire world is safe and secure, whether in the Middle East, Europe, or anywhere else. From these destructive ideologies. Okay, so you watch this. And who knows their neighbors better than a guy that lives in that community?

Nobody. So if I was to ask you right now, you live in a community, and imagine I'm telling you what your neighborhood is like.

You don't know them.

You've lived there for 20 years, but you're like, what are you talking about? It's not like that. I live there. Yeah. Okay? Do you know in Saudi, if you go around committing crime, what they do to you in Saudi?

You know what the tolerance is?

Oh, you're finished.

I want you to watch how this woman speaks. And tell me if you think in their hearts where they're at. These are civilians. These are not leaders. These are civilians giving a message to the president. Go ahead, Rob.

To Trump, we're not scared. You can't scare us. We are Iranians. We're not scared of your bombs you lack what we don't you lack faith what we don't we have our faith this is our faith on our soil on our country on our leadership what you

don't you don't have courage we have have. Your soldiers lack courage. Your soldiers lack courage. Our soldiers don't lack courage. So remember that. You're the loser. You're the loser in this war. That's for sure. You already have lost and you know that.

Listen. Look at her face. This is to, yeah.

So just letting you know on where they're at, right? I live with these people. I live with them. There was two channels that they're repeating things over and over and over again. I want to give credit to Pierce. Pierce had one of the spokesperson on, and the guy almost walked out.

I don't know if you guys have seen this clip or not. Where he pushes back, he says, respectfully, there's a big difference between you guys

and us.

Okay, is this it, Rob? Click on this one.

Oh you've gone. I invited you to Iran Pierce. I invited you to Iran. I'll do it like you do. I'll do it like you do. Down the barrel of a camera you put me on Iranian state television and let me say what I think about it in the way that I let you come on my show and criticize my country and the United States and the West. Fair is fair, right, Professor? Because you've got freedom of speech in Iran, you won't let that happen and the regime won't let it happen because amongst the

many things that you repress the biggest thing you repress is freedom of speech that's why you can't go against your regime and that's why you wouldn't let me go on state TV in Iran and talk out against your regime and that is the difference between us. So you can try and take the high moral ground, but the reality is, that is the difference.

Take the best I've seen Piers Morgan do.

Yeah, by far. But it's a point to understand what that climate is. So if tonight, the president gets up and announces that the Gulf states have agreed to fund everything that we're spending, the market is gonna be confused on what angle to take with this. And they're gonna be like, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but.

So at least one of the issues with money's been addressed. So the other issues that he has to address as well, which is a bigger one, what's the other one?

When it's over.

When it's over, are troops on the ground, is that going to happen? So how they're going to address that, nobody knows. Hex had said three weeks ago, that's the President's decision. If he wants to do it, he has a choice to do it. But I guarantee you, he is thinking about every single one of these things. That said, the Pentagon prepares for weeks of ground invasion.

Vinny, I'll come to you, and I'm going a fact and the only path the only thing that bothers me a ground troops because it's our soldiers I don't want any of our men women. Yes dying the only thing that bothers me pack because I had me brought up Israel for a second they're saying that they're not gonna send any ground. I brought up his room. No you did earlier now they have boots in the ground in Lebanon and they're actually seizing land. They're creating a buffer zone. Whose boots? Israeli boots. No no that's what I'm saying. And Tom and Adam I want to hear your opinion on this. They have boots on the ground. They're seizing land.

So you're not going to put boots on the ground in Iran, which, by the way, this war is for both of us, allegedly more for Israel than us. But then you have people there, you have your boots on the ground, 600,000 of those Lebanese people have to move out. And I said this on the first podcast we did on the stage in the other building if we send a thousand of our American Troops I want 1,000 Israeli boots on the ground as well, but from what I'm hearing Adam from what they're saying

It's not gonna happen. Okay, and like what do we like? I I disagree with that 1,000% and earlier you said something about, hey, if they want to kill each other and whatever, the people, whatever, this whole thing started, my, from what I recall, is for the Iranian people.

The Iran, I, by the way, who we haven't heard a peep from.

I have your back.

I have your back and I haven't heard one. This guy that we just saw, he has Wi-Fi, he's sitting in a room, he's talking to Piers Morgan. What happened to the people? I haven't heard anything, I haven't heard any updates, and that's what I care about, because to me, besides the missiles and your uranium,

what about the thousands that were in the street fighting and dying and pushing out their voices, and the wrestlers that were being hanged in the middle of the street, that's what this comes down to. And I'm very disappointed that Israel's attitude is, nah, we're not going to put troops. Meanwhile, we're trying to expand somewhere else.

And then when you bring up the Greater Israel Project, people are like, you're crazy.

By the way, that's a very valid question. Very valid question. If I'm sending my guys, you've got to send your guys. If you don't send your guys, I'm sending my guys. Even the most logical player cannot sit there and say, what are you talking about? Even the most logical player. And by the way, even more from your end.

I don't even want it to be one for one. I don't even want it to be one for one. It's got to be two to one or three to one situation when that's taking place.

And then what does that say, Pat? What does that say about your ally that they're like, no, we're good, but you're over here, you're expanding? Like, wait a minute, time out. This is the situation we're at. The expanding part of Lebanon is your concern? But, but walk me through it. How is that a concern of yours? Walk me through why you're concerned. Why is that a concern of yours? Because right now, right now, the focus should be this war.

Not if you're, if you're defending yourself.

No, that's not how this works though. No, that's not how this works. It's not, and, and let me tell you what the, okay, let me put it to you this way. Remember when COVID happened? How many banks were getting killed and crushed? Remember Tom, when COVID happened?

How bad was it for some banks? It was scary for a lot of guys. Very scary. Okay, so who capitalized off that crisis? Go ahead.

No, no, watch this.

Jamie Dimon. How many times? Multiple times.

You know why? Because he had all the dry powder to absorb the banks because he understood that what

was coming. So let me ask you a question. Would you call Jamie Dimon an expansionist? Of course. It's not even a hesitation. I call him a business guy.

I know, but what I'm saying is in this reference, he's an expansionist. You're expanding and he bought up other banks that couldn't handle it. You don't think in this situation, Netanyahu's gonna be an opportunistic guy and saying, hey, let's take this, let's take that, let's take this. Of course he is. Trump would do that. If Trump, you don't think Trump's gonna be taking over Cuba?

What do you call that? I think so. You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over Greenland, he will? You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over, he will? Of course.

So, okay.

Good, I'm following. So the part where I'm going with this is the following. You can watch a guy and criticize him on a few different things, but also be able to sit there and say, I understand he's being opportunistic and taking advantage of what's going on right now. And he's getting everything he can at this point. Trump does that, he does that.

I get that. I, if I'm on the phone with him, and I say, wait, you want me to send how many? I'm going to send this. But here's the deal. For every one I send, you send too. Because if you're getting out there saying we're not going to have any boots on the ground, guess what?

Yeah. Why am I sending my boots on the ground? Yeah, that's my problem. So then if I'm sending my boots on the ground, guess what I have to get from you? Boots on the ground?

No, not boots.

Yes. I don't know that part. So that's the conversation. I don't know. Yeah. There was a rumor that came out.

I don't know if you guys saw this, that JD Vance called Netanyahu.

Did you guys hear about the story? No. Nobody knows this for a fact. Go a little bit lower, Rob. And Vance, during the phone call, Vance told Netanyahu that his predictions about the war, which he told Trump about, had not come true.

Netanyahu allegedly told Trump that the Iran war would be quick. As of now, the White House is considering sending more troops. Before the war, Bibi really sold it to the president as being easy, as regime change being a lot likelier than what it was. One source told Axios, and a VP was clear-eyed about some of those statements. Go a little bit lower.

What's so different about Jesse is that the president has clearly identified about this, Jesse, is that the president has clearly identified what he wants to accomplish, and there's just no way, Vance said during an interview. So here's the thing also with Vance on what he's doing. versus a guy that's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do because he believes

it.

So let me give you the difference. I've worked with a lot of guys from both ends. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, Tom.

I know exactly what you're saying and I'm with you. One guy is doing his job and he believes it. The other guy is positioning his bets.

So I think JD right now is, you know, this phone call that was made is like, hey, make the phone call, leak it to the press. Leak it to the press. Link it to the press. Why? Because he wants the non-interventionist, those guys who say, oh, wow, that's my guy that did this. Where Rubio, honestly, who do you think is more resolved on what he or she is doing that can handle the criticism?

Marco Rubio.

It's not even close. Of course. He's like, no, this is what I believe in. This is what I'm doing, here's where we're going, and I've been saying this for a while. I want to be documented saying this in 2015, 11 years ago. So to me, these types of calls that are happening, it's more a positioning call than it is a you know, tell them how hard I was on BB.

Tell them how hard and how much I pushed them. Use these words. Oh my God, look at the backbone and all this other stuff. Now, this could be a true story and maybe I'm pushing it too much, but I'm just telling you,

I see some of the stuff that's happening that's too opportunistic.

No, I think you're right. Vinny, picture the primaries in 28.

Yeah.

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

He's less enthusiastic about the war and what's the script the script is gonna be not gonna lie to you. I was conflicted Yes, I was conflict. I couldn't say anything and I supported the commander-in-chief. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was conflicted. So we'll see.

Adam. Yeah. I don't know what JD Vance's strategy is. I would give him one piece of advice. Don't cross Trump. It's not going to work out well for you, but I'm just going to go rapid fire here because

we covered a lot of things. Number one, Trump and MBS, you talked about him. negotiate and are on the same page maybe 80% of the time, but they're not fully, fully, fully aligned, nor should they be. Everyone has their own interest in there, but Trump and MBS do have a special relationship. And yes, I think the Gulf States and yes, I think Israel, not US, it's Iran. So we know the threats there so yes pay up just like

NATO has to pay up just like he's made them go from 2% to 4% to possibly 5%. As far as Israel boots on the ground, I don't know anything about this, but I'll give my assessment. Do you know how many wars they're fighting? Do you know Israel is the size of the state of New Jersey? Do me a favor, pull up the map of the Middle East. We'll talk about expansionism for a second. Israel is this tiny. How many people do you think have in their military. They have wars going on in Hezbollah on their north. They have Gaza

and the West Bank on their east and their west. They get the Houthis on their south. And we need to take our small little mighty military and export it outside the world. We literally just don't have the manpower. So as far as expansionism... That's not the point. But hold on, let me finish my point. As far as expansionism, but okay, you want to talk about boots on the ground? Israel has 1 million percent more boots on the ground right now. You know what they're called? Mossad.

You know how many people have Mossad that are in? That negotiation doesn't work with me. No, that negotiation. Okay, but it doesn't matter what it works with, sir. Let me explain to you.

It matters what works with our president.

a war that they didn't support. That's exactly the point why so many people hate these effing wars. Because they lost a child, they lost a brother, they lost a son. Go talk to those guys that have a job in the military that have to go explain to the mom and dad, your son just got killed. And for the rest of that person's life, that parent's life, go tell them, hey, support

this thing here. No. To me, Mossad is Mossad. Go do what you're doing with Mossad. If I'm putting our kids lives on the line, where are you with it? Who? If US is going to send troops, and our Marines, the best of the best in the world, if they're going to go, and our guys are going to be there, I expect you to be there as well.

Who's you?

You be in Israel. But why are we only talking about Israel? Didn't we just talk about Saudi?

Because they were the ones that were talking about Israel. Are we not sending any other troops? Are we not sending Qatari troops? Are we not sending Saudi troops? This is the war. Mainly this war started.

Mainly? But you just said are they going to financially support?

When the war got started, what was the war? Rob posted it. First podcast we did. You know what Rob posted the title? That Israel-US attack on Iran. Bingo.

That's what is- When the war first started it doesn't matter now other people are Going no no the latest iteration of this no if there is Is Saudi known for having a strong military is that what they're known for Well, who's either is Iran who is known for having a great intelligence great military great Air Force United States who else is what? Exactly. Yeah, so if I'm putting troops on the ground, okay?

I expect you to put your

Pretend that Israel isn't already fighting a war hardcore for the last three years But Adam I'm not condoning that we're if we're in this pretend that Israel isn't already fighting wars- Hold on then. And defeating their enemies would be naive at best. You can't sit in this room, all of us right now, and we're going to plan that we're going to go in that room and beat the crap out of everybody in the studio room, and then when it's time to go, you're like, no, no, no, I got other fights to fight. But you're assuming that.

No, no. Hold on. So then the United States, my country should say this. Well, if you don't send anybody, we're not sending anybody.

Hold on.

Hold on. Isn't that how negotiations work? And if they go, oh, okay, let me think about it. In 2003, the Iraq invasion. Why are we walking around as if the United States is just clumsy? Because Bibi Netanyahu.

Let Bini finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Why does he have to finish? I don't know what's going on with you.

Because I want to make a point.

Come on, guy.

Adam, come on. So for me, these are two things. You said if they do, so why are they sending it without them committing to it? You're saying this. Yes. The argument here isn't that. is, the people in America, again, pulse. The people in America, when you get their pulse, you know what they're asking themselves?

Today's social media is a very different climate we're living in. Take the 51% of bots that do a great job and confuse the hell out of everybody. But take some of the reasonable players that come out. And a lot of these reasonable players are former vets. I put them as reasonable. You were maybe Ranger, you were maybe a par as reasonable. You were maybe a ranger.

You were maybe a paratrooper. You were maybe a SEAL. Or you've actually gone and seen this kind of stuff, and you ask yourself, he was in the military, I was in the military, and you see the level of frustration, why did I do this? This was a waste of time.

And a big part of it is, I lost a friend. I lost a brother. I lost a cousin. I don't want to do it if you're not in on it as well. By the way, you said how do we know? We don't know. You're right. We don't know. None of us know.

Maybe they are. But Bibi said they're not going to put a single, you know, thank you so much, single boot on

to be like, oh, they're not doing it. So obviously they're just expecting them to fight their wars. That is naive at best. That is the American isolationist default position. How about asking, peeling the onion and say, well, why would they say that? Or are they playing strategic games here? Why are they doing that?

Adam, they said, they said, because it does not have the logistics to sustain forces that far from home. Adam, BB net and Yahoo went to Congress how many times and said Iraq, Iraq, how many soldiers were deployed in 2003 from Israel?

Oh, so you fell for that? You fell for that also? I fell for what? Hold on. How many? Why did we go to Iraq? I'm gonna wait. Why did we go to Iraq? What do you mean why did we go to Iraq? He said, we all said they had weapons of mass destruction.

How many troops? BB said it and we believed it. Hold on one second.

So BB runs all United States. I have respect for you. You just yelled at me and told me to let you finish.

You're not even letting him know how many Israeli troops were deployed in 2023 for Iraq or in Afghanistan What do you mean how many zero? Zero, this is supposed to be a team effort. So if we go you go so and they're not so ultimately what's your point? My point you want to do with this room Adam? My point is your recommendation. Guess what? What do you want boots on the ground. If you're going to talk all this shit and bring us into war, put your boots on the ground. I've been saying it for how long?

What do you think the IDF has been doing, fighting wars all over the Middle East? So, Adam, soldiers, Marines, let's go. If we're going, you're going. To me, this is so stupid. How is it stupid to pretend that they're just lollygagging into war?

Alicia, you're fine. So I'm going to get to the next story. But by the way, notice what happened with the tension here. And this is just the four of us. Thank you so much. Notice what happened with the tension here.

And it's just the four of us. This is one of the issues in America today that is truly a conversation people are having. This is a real conversation that's being had. And by the way, where do you put me? You think I'm an isolationist? No. What do you think I am?

I think since we've invaded Iran, you're probably more on the pro-ally side at this point. We didn't invade.

Pro-ally with who?

With America's military's might.

I'm not an isolationist. How could you be? I'm not an isolationist. I'm not. No, no, I'm not. Because to me, that mindset doesn't work. Because my experience in business, and my experience of being in the military and having lived in a country with war, you can't be an isolationist for the rest of your life. Eventually, a guy's going to come and knock on your door and say, hey, you're so weak, come here, give me everything you got.

You can't. You have to show strength People have to know you can push your weight around and every once in a while, you know, there needs to be a statement Hey Fafo There needs to be that reputation. I am that guy I'm the guy that you need to set the tone in a marketplace that they know but at the same time This is more important to me.

I need you to show up at the following. If I'm going to put my guys on the line, I need you to put two times as many.

So can we role play for a second? I know you want to move on. Who do you want to be? You want to be Trump?

You want to be Bibi? Okay, go you go. You're Trump. You're who peg Seth? Whatever. What's your demand? I'm Trump. Hey, listen, I'll I'll I'll I'll I don't have a prime helping you out because I think we benefit from this as well Sure, I want to be able to do this as well. But if I'm gonna send my troops, you gotta send yours as well

They have their proxies attacking us. We've created the Iron Dome, which are basically helping you create. What is this? What are you doing right now? So I'm just giving you, so what I'm saying to you is, troops do you want? Two to one. If I send 1,000, you gotta send 2,000. Okay, no, we're not, we don't have those capabilities right now. What capabilities do you have?

We need to defend, we need to defend because we're basically being attacked by a house

bullet.

Well, guess what? Then we're out of this one. Do it by yourself. Then perfect. But BB goes, listen, we can't send troops. That's on Trump.

That's on Pete Hexhead. That's on Trump and Hexhead. If we're negotiating, they made the decision. Yes, I know.

I agree.

Okay. No, no, but this is not negotiating. And you said, Adam, I need you to do it. If I'm negotiating, I'm not doing it without you sending troops.

That's fine.

You have to have skin in the game.

Sure.

If you got skin in the game, let's roll.

You just said the key word, skin in the game.

I do, yeah.

Define skin in the game.

There might be different. I got CI as well. Don't know I don't know about the troops Adam I am did you think they're just I only got him blindly walking into you have to know where I'm at I guarantee you that conversation Adam place and said you do this. Well, I go right, and we meet in the middle. My position's been very clear. with a carrier and I'm not in the room, I don't care, I trust her.

I don't care, I trust her. If Tom is handling a massive crisis that somebody needs to use the right words when talking to somebody, we just did one last week I don't care I trust Tom I trust him I voted for this guy three times Trump I trust that he's doing the right thing agree what I'm saying to you is if this conversation comes up the American people are gonna ask is it one for one they're gonna ask sure and if he chooses not to go he's

gonna get the criticism if he's okay with that great ultimately We're saying the same thing we try no, but I know but what I'm saying to you is the way I'm Negotiating is I'm gonna have you have some skin in a game. It's the way I'm negotiating. That's all I'm saying was it, July of 2024. He said, President Trump's gonna win. They're gonna go to war to Iran, and they're gonna lose.

That's the prediction that he made. And then Sager and them had him on the podcast. When they had him on the podcast, I messaged, what is their podcast called? They actually do a very good job. Breaking Points. I messaged Breaking Points immediately and I said, great conversation.

The world needs to hear this conversation. Matter of fact, let me tell you, when I DM'd Breaking Points and told them, great job interviewing this Jang guy, because guess what we need in America? We need different points. Yep My message to him Vinny. Can you tell them when this message was sent? What's the date on that Wednesday March 4th March 4th?

And what did I say in the text to them great work with the recent interview? Yeah, and that was the interview with Jack had a conversation with him I don't want to talk about the individual's name and all of a sudden he's like well the reason because I thought this was gonna be hit piece that's why I didn't want to go on PBD podcast that we're trying to do hit piece hit piece I'm in a conversation with you. That's what this guy Zhang said? That's what the guy said on camera. He says, yeah, what was the word he used, Rob? I think they were trying to set up.

It was a set up. It was a set up. Oh, OK. And I'm like, I want to hear your thoughts and your angles on where you came with this

And you're not a professor. I know it's your YouTube moniker, but you're a high school teacher. You're not actually a professor.

Right.

Yeah.

And I'm not a professor. I'm not a professor. But I never said I was a professor. It's the internet who called me professor. Hold on, hold on. Hi, YouTube. This is Professor Jiang. Hi, YouTube. This is Professor Jiang. Professor Jiang here.

Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here.

You do call yourself Professor Jiang,

and you're not a professor.

Look, look.

There's a guy on the internet who calls himself the god.

I'm good friends with a radio host

called Charlemagne the God, but no one actually thinks he's a God. People actually think you're a professor.

Professor Jiang here.

So this is the part when you come out and you represent yourself of somebody who you're not, the market's eventually going to expose you. And you're going to get out. And by the way, you know what else? Matty asked me.

So a lot of people are thinking you're with China. And you're maybe, you know, somebody that is actually, you know, doing this to kind of, you know, hurt America because your motives are more supporting for the Chinese regime and all this other stuff. And that also came up. And he says that's a very fair criticism. That's a very good communicator.

You got to give him credit. Yeah, for sure. in pretty anti-Semitic tropes and at worst you're a card-carrying anti-Semite when they see that stuff. Mehdi said this.

Mehdi said this.

Spoken from a pot calling the kettle black. Yeah, so anyways, you know, when you hear this Vinny, how do you process this? Tom, I'll come to you. How do you process this from a guy who actually was a professor at, uh, adjunct professor at Biola and Pepperdine? How do you process that? How, by the way, is it really a big deal if somebody calls himself a professor and they're

not? representing it I think it is because it gives a it gives yourself some gravitas and by as an adjunct I never let them call me doctor. Doctor is a PhD doctorate and so I always had them call me Tom because these were MBA students. But wait, you like being called biz doc? He's a doctor! He called me biz doc.

But he's not a doctor! But he's not a doctor!

I never said PhD.

But you never say Professor Ellsworth. Can we call you Professor Ellsworth?

You can call me whatever you want to call me.

Would that be legal term? We could call you Professor Ellsworth?

I would prefer not because I've got great respect for people that go and get a PhD.

Alright, so guys, don't manectum and say Professor Ellsworth, he may respond back to you. Go ahead, Tom.

I may. It's a 94.7% of time, everybody gets an answer on the neck. So I think this guy was holding himself out with professor to create gravitas. And he's made these predictions. He was correct. And he kind of messed it up.

Why did you do that? Why did you leave the door open? I just don't I don't think you should have left the door open like that. He says, Hi, this is Jang. Some people may call me Professor Jang. I'm a high school teacher. And here's what I think about the future. That's all you have to say. How do you

and I sprained my ankle. And Tom, remember, it was me and Adam, and Tom ran up and he was like, is it your ibida? I'm like, it's not, that's not even a part of the body.

But then he tried to give your ankle mouth to mouth.

Yeah, which was very, very weird. He told me to take my pants off. my algorithm. It was just random, this professor just popped up and I mean flooded. I never looked at one video, I never, and he just, he was everywhere. And then like you got Adam, you talk about peeling back the onion and you always have to take a step back when you're getting it. Sometimes like you said, great communicator.

And he made some points where I had to fact check and I'm like, okay, let me see where this guy's at. But who are you actually working for? Why are you here? What are you doing? And what is your modem? What is your objective? And the fact that he's saying kind of like that, he's like, well, yeah, I could be a useful idiot. He's telling you who he is.

He's telling you exactly who he is. So you have to take him at face value.

I think what's going on in America today is we're starving for one thing, and it's so easy to just pop on your camera and say, Hey, Professor Jiang here, you know, don't, don't worry about my credentials. And by the way, even if I did have credentials, how much respect do we have for professors these days, especially in these higher institutions of learning that are 13 to one more

liberal than conservative in Columbia and Harvard and such. And now we're going to put a stock in professor. So then it takes a known anti-american sentiment Mehdi Hassan to expose an alleged commie comrade who's allegedly China first to expose his metrics what I know is that they're always gonna eat each other because the communists and the Islamists they'll team up and try to figure something out but at the end the Islamists are always gonna take down the communists and then the good

guys got to take out the bad guys. There's a similar theme here and here today, gone tomorrow, Professor quote-unquote Jank. Yeah let's go to the

next one. So Chicago Bulls Jaden Ivey made a couple comments about his faith and how uncomfortable he was with the NBA being pro-LGBTQ, Pride Month, all this other stuff and he was actually a superstar. He was a star playing with the Pistons on the backcourt with this other guy who's a you know some of the NBA players would say he's a superstar. Who's the backcourt? Kate Cunningham, yeah. But this guy's on the Bulls. No, no, he was on the Pistons, in the backcourt.

Average 17 points a game, four assists, four rebounds. This is why I tell you, I follow this stuff closer than you do.

Way better than you have, obviously.

How many times does this guy think like he's sportsman? This guy's get a ticket. Exactly. Because the camera's angle is focused on his nostrils, but try to focus on the message while he's doing this. He's simply sharing his faith, and the Chicago Bulls let him go simply because of this comment and this video that he made. Go ahead, Rob.

The world can proclaim LGBTQ.

Right? that the world can proclaim LGBTQ. Right? They have they have they proclaim Pride Month and the NBA. They proclaim it. They they show it to the world.

They say, come, come, come join us for Pride, for Pride Month,

to celebrate unrighteousness. They proclaim it. They proclaim it on the billboards.

They proclaim it in the streets, unrighteousness. So how is it that one can't speak righteousness? How is it one that, how are they to say that, man, this man is crazy? I'm not the J.I. I used to be. But the old J.I.'s dead.

I'm alive the J.I. I used to be, but the old J.I. is dead. I'm alive in Christ. No matter what the basketball setting is, I'm born again, the Holy Spirit, and I've been saved by Jesus Christ.

Your boss is right there, powerful. Vinny, your thoughts?

I absolutely love that. So, I think just Christians in the world, I hope you guys are waking up and seeing what's going on. The NBA can wave whatever flag that they want, but the moment, the moment he talks about Christ and says anything like that, you know what they actually said? They said he's detrimental to the team because he's speaking about Bible. Guys, this isn't about inclusion. It's about submission. My question is this, Tom, detrimental to whom? Is it the locker room, the front office, the sponsors, or

the image that they sell every June? Because the issue is that he said Pride Month celebrates unrighteousness and then they say that instead of hiding behind corporate language this is who he is, okay? And as Christians out there and we have another story coming later on about Christians and them getting slaughtered and murdered. This shouldn't surprise anybody.

Jesus said what Tom? The world would hate his followers because it hated him first. So what he's talking about, by the way, do you not see the Holy Spirit in this guy? Did you see that moment Tom where he goes, I'm not the same Jaden. That old Jaden is dead. He's talking about repentance, salvation, the kingdom of God and getting punished for it. Mind you, he's not saying hate gay people, he's not

saying any of that stuff, okay. And I guarantee you his attitude is love them, pray for them and hope that they could come to Christ. Because guess what, at the end of the day, you can be gay, doesn't mean you have to practice in that lifestyle, okay. Watching porn, giving into just sex and doing all that stuff. You don't have to live that life. You're supposed to try to change. I'm not saying don't be gay, but you don't have to practice in it. And I feel for these people, Pat, and I pray Okay.

And what does the Bible say, Tom, about pride? Pride comes before the fall. Before the fall. Okay. It's not just a phrase. It's scripture.

So when an entire league turns into a fricking banner that he can't say what he wants to

this is what's gonna happen to you, plain and simple.

Adam.

Look, I think this was a stupid decision on his part, and I'll say why. Do I agree with him on what he said? I actually do. I don't like that there's this much gay pride everywhere you go. There's LGBT everywhere you go.

I don't like that there's how many different holidays that celebrate the gay uncle day and the furry day and it was just a trans visibility day. There's no doubt that there's a problem with all this. But pick and choose your spots, my friend. You've been in the league how long? Three years? Four years? Which means what? You're about to come up on your next contract, which is potentially your next big deal. So if

you're the agent, you're the advisor, you're the manager, you say, hey, listen, buddy, before you start taking a stance on these things that you're not known for, this isn't like a reverend or a pastor or a rabbi coming out and saying you're an NBA player buddy stay in your lane keep your beliefs private and by the way you can have any belief you want but you're about 12 months away from signing a hundred million dollar deal now you got zero so this is basically something even give them more credit I was just gonna say you know you know I'm not questioning

his belief right because you know sometimes sometimes people... You'll hear testimonies and hey, at a bad place in your life, you give your life to Christ. But imagine you're at a great place in your life and you just made it. Wow.

You got a hundred million dollars coming your way and you do it then? Well... I mean, it's... reasonable agent positions to him is like no this is my faith and Rob what is

it that you have here is this uh this is him yesterday I believe it was yesterday talking about the backlash that he's received from his family and let's play

this and I'm gonna come to you go for it those who are around me those are my family members oh he says he's not texting him because because of what I spoke the truth saying I'm losing my mind saying that I'm losing my mind, saying that I'm crazy. These are my own family members, my blood. Man, he's psycho. He's this, he's that.

Those are my own household. That's why my wife in here, and she not even texting me.

OK, Adam, keep going.

So, look, my advice is get off the internet, buddy. Because I understand if you just gave your life to Christ, that's amazing, you're excited, you want to share it with the world, that's amazing, of course. But not every news needs to be shared.

You just, you started off the podcast and basically said, hey listen, I'm gonna call you out publicly. Why? Because you represent me and you represent the brand. And I hear that. But this guy represents more than himself. He represents the Chicago Bulls.

He represents the NBA and he represents the overall league. And he's going rogue and basically saying my beliefs, what I believe is more important than my team, my teammates, the league that I stand for, and the logo. By the way, I agree with some of the stuff you're saying. But time and place, because if we're going to talk about representing the brand, representing the league, you're representing the Chicago Bulls.

You just went from the GOAT of MJ to now your brand is being known as gay bashing. I'm not saying that he's doing that, but that's what your brand is known for. Adam, he, horrible timing. But with the right best.

You know what, you said the news should never be shared. He is sharing the word of Jesus Christ, and I commend him, and I love that you said that, Pat, in a moment where he has everything, but he is touched by the Holy Spirit and I can't give him enough credit for having the gall to do Adam because you know what?

If you're in the league and for a month they're representing the gay flag, it's all over the place you're in on it. And let's, Pride Month, LGBTQ, they're pushing that T stuff that you always talk about on children. He doesn't want to be any part of it. And if you think about Adam, he's not budging to hell with the timing.

His morals and his principles, and you know, you said about who's he making happy? If Jesus Christ is happy, you win. I don't care about your wife. I don't care about your family. I don't care about his boys going, yo, dog, we about to come up. No, no, Adam. Let me flip it on you. But let me finish. Adam, and I love you. I know you're not a Christian.

I'm telling you right now.

I'm the original.

The one person, the one being that is happy about this guy, besides everybody else, is the man upstairs. Okay. But wait, you don't think he's already rich?

Do you not think? Hold on.

No, he's not major money. He's made already $26 million and the Pistons owe him another $10 to $11 million guaranteed for your $40 million contract. You would have had $100 million. You're right about the $100 million, but he's making a different point.

Let me make a point to you. What I'm saying is, 26, Adam, as I'm telling you right now, Adam, something changed in my life the moment the moment it wasn't about me and the money and the girls and everything Christ You're on a completely different path. I see in his face. I see me and him and he doesn't care 20 mil Adam I think he'd be happy with a hundred thousand dollars Okay, he's been touched and it's over and hold on. Let me ask you and I'll let you go

You're not thinking other teams gonna pick him up. The NBA is done with him, the Bulls waived him. I think he's finished. I think he's gonna be great for the rest of his life.

Go ahead. Okay. So you think another team's gonna pick him up? I don't see this being... You think another team's gonna pick him up? No. Let me ask you a question.

Who is he with today? Jonathan, he's still with Orlando Magic. He gets a little bit of playing time, but he-

So guess where he could go? He could go to Orlando Magic. Do you know why? Because he can go to Orlando Magic. Christian, give to the biggest foundations, I think she can potentially

end up with the magic top. Look, you don't have to like this, and I'm gonna say something here people probably aren't gonna like, and that is, you know, he has this deep faith that he's sharing. On a Christian standpoint, I find it amazing that he was boldly sharing, and I understand his feeling, his faith, everything that goes with it. Totally understand it. The reality in America is, and I look back at...do you remember there's a Marine named Jacobi Williamson,

and he got fired because he said another racist man, Charlie Kirk, was popped. The reason he got fired is popped made it sound like he was celebrating his death. But if he was to say, I found Charlie to be racist, a lot of people are upset by it, who knows what happened here.

If he says it like that, he's still employed. However, he was a recruiter, and he said popped, like he was happy about it. And with the MBA, the way it works is free speech has consequences. You're guaranteed free speech under the Constitution,

but you're not guaranteed free speech without consequences and certain circumstances. In terms of employment, you're only guaranteed that you're not going to be fired because of your race, religion, nation of origin, or sexual orientation, or other discriminatory factors, who you are. But if you say something that they think your employer thinks is offensive, or your employer thinks is against their

foundations, you can expect consequences. And the league feels this way. We push Pride Month. We do these things. So you need, if you're gonna play here, this is who we are. Don't be critical.

Don't disparage the league. And unfortunately, he, in his free speech, the consequences is that he loses his job. I hate that he did. I'm sad that he did. But this is the way free speech works in America. I want to see Adam Silver do the same thing if there's a Muslim player that says something about Christianity or Christian players, I want to see Adam

Silver, I want to see him do the same thing. But right now, what this guy did, he exercised free speech. I hate the consequence, but this is the consequence because the league says, we own the teams, you're an employee of the teams.

I want to move on, guys. I want to move on with this. I just want to say I agree with Tom on this one. So let's move on with this. Let's move on with this. Let's move on with this because the reality of it is we've been on this thing for 12 minutes. I want to go to the next one. All right, let's go to Tiger Woods, okay? Another sports story. So Tiger Woods, video comes out, back to the muck shot stuff. At first when it happened I was like, are people playing jokes with Tiger Woods? What's going on here? Why are they doing this? But story comes out Rob, do you have that story here? Can you tell me? Okay. Is this the Tiger Woods? Uh, yes

This is a report on his accident and what he was found in possession of okay

Go for it deputies with the martin county florida sheriff's office reported observing several signs well deputies with the martin county florida sheriff's office reported observing several signs of impairment at the crash scene involving tiger woods Noting that the golf legend was called sweating profusely and that his movements appeared lethargic and slow. Again, that according to an arrest affidavit obtained today by Fox News Digital.

Law enforcement also found two white pills inside of Woods' left side pant pocket, later identified as hydrocodone, which as you may know, is a prescription opioid for pain relief. Meantime, Woods' good friend, President Trump,

continues to show his support for the five-time Masters champ. The two men spoke Friday after the crash, the president telling the New York Post that Tiger lives a life of pain, he has a lot of pain. He's an amazing guy, an amazing athlete, he does have pain.

Woods, for his part, told law enforcement prior to the field sobriety test that he'd undergone seven back surgeries and over 20 operations on his legs, adding that, yes, I take a few prescription medications. As for what happens next...

I think probably they're gonna work out some sort of disposition that...

When you see that. You hate seeing this happen to him. Yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen the documentary they did, the three part documentary on him or two part documentary on him. The guy's story is a fascinating story. Is this him afterwards, Rob, or this is literally four days

before the accident where he talks about wanting to get back to playing.

Yeah, he wanted to get into the Masters yeah and he says trust me I'm trying to my body's not recovering I'm no longer my 20s I'm just trying really hard I'd love to be it I'm gonna be there whether I play I don't play I saw that and then apparently a lot of his people around him that are loving he just said I'm stepping away because of the UI arrest that took place with him he made that comment I believe earlier yesterday that he's stepping away from the game with what happened. Tom, what are you at with this, with Tiger Woods? How do you process it?

I'm very sad. Kim and I have followed him in golf for so long, just the story, just like everybody else has done. I saw him, Kim and I were at the 2008 US Open, and we followed him in Rocco Mediate for a day and a half. And we saw the pain he was in at that time

when his knee needed surgery, but he wins the US Open at Torrey Pines on that kind of a tough course in pain. We saw him. We could hear him grunt. He was right there. And so you know that he had that.

And then what bothers me most is that if After all of these things to the body He's taken opioids and now he has like an addiction that happens to a lot of people Russ Limbaugh said he got an addiction After what was it back surgery or something that he said he started taking the opioids and he said they caught up with me and My body had Jordan Peterson went through it. That's exactly right. I couldn't believe it. And so these are not junkies behind 7-Eleven. These are professional people that have pain and the drug of choice they're given is these

opioids and if they're not careful, the body reacts with an addiction and a reliance on it and I just hate this. Now, I don't know what he was feeling when he got in the car or whatever like that. They said he was driving fast. You know, we've all seen all the facts on that. But it just saddens me that this once great, you know, athlete now has got a lot of pain.

sounds like a guy that says These pills that are helping me. I gotta go. I gotta go do something else

There's there's even stories out there that apparently Vanessa Trump told Tiger she won't wait around like Ellen if he continues with this direction and he truly wants to make a change and Don jr. Is a little bit worried because his kids are around. Thank God Vanessa wasn't in the car. Neither was their kids. So the conversations there, these are valid things. You know when you have a friend or somebody,

a family member you love, who's truly having a hard time with something and addiction, and everybody's trying to help this person out, but it's like at the end of the day, the only person that can do it is themselves. Yep. You can go to as many rehab places and they'll always tell you the same thing.

We can't make him quit. It has to be him. Adam, your thoughts on this?

I feel bad for Tiger, but you reap what you sow. I'm not a golf guy, so the people that love Tiger, probably not going to like what I'm about to say, but dude, just retire. Because you're doing nothing but ruining your legacy and ruining your brand. What does MJ do these days? Because the reason I bring up MJ, because he's right behind Vinny, is because we're talking goats.

You've interviewed many goats, Pat, right? Why does Trump not, sorry, Trump, why does MJ not do interviews? Why does he not, sorry, Trump, why does MJ not do interviews? Why does he not do podcasts?

He's been doing more lately, by the way.

Yeah.

He did the last dance because he's not trying to ruin the legacy that he created. Tiger Wolf, Tiger Woods, with every swing, with every time he gets in a car, with every time he goes onto the course, he's not helping his legacy. You think people care if he wins another match, or wins another round, or shoots a par, or birdie? People don't care.

You've already solidified your legacy. All you're doing is tarnishing at this point. You know what's the quote that I always talk about with Jack Bogle? The guy that created Vanguard? He said, when I die, I have one wish.

incident or is this the fifth time we've seen this happen? With cheating on your wife when she's smashing in the car window, with womanizing and basically running away from police, basically dealing with DUIs, getting stopped. Do you know the speed limit on the street that he was going? I know this street. It's up in Jupiter. 20 miles per hour. How the hell does your car end up flipped on a 20 mile per hour street? That means you are so messed up, so bloodshot, so gone, and

nobody can tell you what to do. Pat, you know I was telling you, I don't want Pat to drive. I need to drive. I need to drive. You don't even drink. You don't take pills, much less this guy. This guy is the anti-

I've been driving a lot less, and I like driving.

Looking great. Yeah. This guy is the anti-MJ, and he's ruining his legacy, and he's done so much for the game of golf

that he's not helping at all right now. Fair. It's good feedback. But let me tell you, when something happened this weekend, Tom is aware what happened this weekend, when you're somebody that is a high intense competitor driver, you know, Jordan just did an interview with this lady, who's this interview, African-American lady, who's a very well-known interviewer, I don't know what herAmerican lady who's a very well-known interviewer. I Don't know what her name is actually a very good interview Michael Jordan. Yeah, Michael Jordan with her She just he just did an interview

Tap an interview Rob interview and he asked him a question says are you still competitive? He says yes, he says still she says still at 63 years old. Yes. She says why? He says honestly at this point. The only thing I can say is I think I'm cursed. So the curse of competitors is they want that next high. That next Masters. That next you know what Tiger did. Stuff that we've never seen before. But I think he can't let go of. That's not an easy thing to do Vinny. I agree. Think about winning at that level and he's still trying. And I'm going to be honest with you, Tom, and I know you're going to agree, because of Tiger Woods, an entire

generation started, every race started going, wait, what's going on? Adam, I love golf because of Tiger Woods. And I followed him for his entire career. Some of those shots where he did from like the side, unbelievable, okay, unbelievable, but I think it's like this is a huge, I know he's had a couple. This is a huge wake up call. God forbid, bro, God forbid, Adam, besides the kids in the car and

everything, which I'm pretty sure they would have had a seatbelt, you know, hopefully, but what if somebody was just walking in the street? There were kids in the car? No, no, no, I'm saying if they were, I'm pretty sure they would have seatbelts, but, and again, God forbid, Adam, he hit somebody. He's one of my favorites.

And number one, who's his pet?

Who's talking to him?

This was like a celebrity poker thing. Six years ago, seven years ago. I don't know what it was. And I talked to Tiger and I looked at him I'm like this guy's having a hard time yeah you could tell he's slurring all this other stuff anyways last one before we wrap up Rob if you want to give you a

shout out real quick and I get Tiger can I give you a little advice Tiger if you ever see this what do you always talk about Pat reinventing yourself the problem with Tiger he's never reinvented himself me dude? He's reinvented himself. So you're saying maybe he hasn't in the last 10 years. Oh my gosh. That's the time that it matters. I get that. Right now in 10 years he has not reinvented himself. You talked about Jordan. Give a shout out to Jordan. Jordan's still competitive. He's still winning. But what is he winning

in? NASCAR. He's in NASCAR. He just won again. He just won bro. Tiger, hang them up dude. Create something that solidifies your legacy, does not ruin your legacy. I want to get to the last one here and I want to wrap up early today. Rob, I saw a clip with Miley Cyrus, if you want to play this clip. It's a very good clip for people to watch. Go for it Rob. Miley Cyrus talks about how embarrassed she is on some of the stuff she did that she embarrassed her family.

Watch this. Everything because of the choices I was making professionally. I was engaged at the time. That didn't work out because I was sharing a part of myself that men wanted to be saved for them only. And the fact that I would pose nude or dance in very little clothes or show my body was

making them feel like I was taking something away that was meant to be for them. It was really hard for me to go home and see my dad and like look him in the eyes and not feel super embarrassed. Seeing my grandparents were just mortifying. There was even a time where my brother and sister didn't want to go to school because of how humiliated they were to

be related to me. I lost everything because of the choices I was making professionally. Isn't that freaking powerful? I didn't want to tell you guys, I'm going to play this game. That's, I mean, not only is that amazing, I was one of those people, I'll be honest, that this is years, years, years ago, I would judge her. I'd be like, you were Hannah Montana. I would go on to the studio set, my friend, And it was thong and grabbing her stuff.

And I was like, I was back then, and it's not a Christian thing, but I wasn't all in on Christianity. I was judging her. But for her to have that moment where it's like, oh my goodness, what happened? That's recreating yourself. That's growing as a human being.

That's freaking amazing and good for her. But not a lot of people come to that moment, Tom, where they're like, oh my God, what the, is that me? Is that what I was doing? I've been there. I saw myself on camera.

I'm like, oh my God, am I drunk? And those are the wake-up calls

that you need to see once in a while.

Reconciliation is one of the most beautiful things Christ gives us the opportunity to reconcile with Him in our eternity. And I hope this year's reconciled with the family. We've all seen all the things. I remember seeing an interview, Pat, with Billy Ray Cyrus. And he was emotional because he was very hurt because he wondered if his little girl, if she was ever going to maybe get it together and come back in a relationship.

And I hope that this is a sign that this reconciliation is all incomplete. Yeah, and she was wearing a very covered shirt. Beautiful. I love it.

Why did you want to play this? Just so I'm curious.

I think there's a lot of women that need to be inspired by people like this to say, Hey, I showed everything and I became one of the most famous people in the world and I was wrong.

I think that's powerful. I think a lot of people need to go through it themselves before they listen to people's advice. You know, like you always say, more is caught than taught, right? I think there's gonna be girls that see this. There's a lot of girls on OnlyFans. There's a lot of girls showing their songs and doing their everything on Instagram. And until life smacks them in the face, until a guy breaks up with them because he cares about their past more than

their future, more than their past. I think there's a ton of women that need to receive this message, but a lot of times it's going to be too late. By the way, same for men. A lot of men need to go through things and you say, don't do this, don't do this. Some people need to put their hand on the stove before they learn the lesson.

That's my opinion. All I want to say is good for you, Miley. I hope you go through this mindset. You can really impact many people's lives. Gang, great to be with you guys. We will do it again tomorrow. We have Richard Werner to talk about the economy. Every time he comes, it's very, very interesting what he asks us. I can't wait to be with you guys.

And we'll be back again on Friday. God bless everybody.

Bye bye.

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