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You were also bullied?

Yes.

The first time I was asked to speak. He asked you to speak? At what age?

6th grade.

Oh, shit.

He asked me to bathe

and do things related to it.

And he's a religious scholar?

Yes, he's a religious scholar.

A great religious scholar?

Yes, a great religious scholar. He's quite famous. He said, it doesn't hurt anymore. Besides, it's my brother's wishful thinking. He said, the marriage is with my father. Even though it's with their big family,

they still said, this is family business. Just close it. You were educated, and now you want to report, why did you study so hard to report your father?

Bismillah first, I hope it's useful. With Mrs. Zulfa.

Salwa. Salwa. Can I say your name? Yes. Salwa.

Salwa. Can I say the name? Yes.

Mustika.

Okay, I'll read it first.

Yes.

This is a slander committed by a prominent scholar in Bekasi named Mas Turoh Wili, a famous Qiyayi who is also the chairperson of the Uma Alim Penjaga Forum. He is the chairman, right? It was reported that he had raped two victims, who are his own adopted children and his own wife.

Victim ZA, who is ZA? You? He has experienced repeated molestation and rape since he was underage. The perpetrator often forces the victim to have an intimate relationship and sent the video as a financial compensation for the college fees. Correct. The two victims have reported this case to the police.

Yes, correct.

Have you reported it?

Yes, I have.

Okay. Actually, I don't like this podcast. Because, in my opinion, it ruins the image of Islam. I'm sad to bring this podcast. Because if we bring this, it's like Islam is the bad one. But this has been reported, right?

Yes.

And what's the case?

The case is actually, the victim has been BAP twice, Doc. Has been BAP, already under examination twice. And we are waiting for news to take place. But for the past three weeks, we haven't heard anything.

Dizzy?

Yes, dizzy.

Okay.

This is why I brought this podcast. Actually, my heart is really shaking. My heart is really hurting. Just reading it hurts, especially after hearing your story. I don't want to bring it up because it ruins the Islamic image. But I bring it up so that the case can be more attention. Before that, I'm sad for both of you.

If you're not ready or there's something that you don't like, let me know.

Okay?

Who wants to go first? How about the story first?

Maybe from when I was 6 years old. From there. From me, yes.

You said you were her brother?

Yes, my stepbrother.

Your stepbrother?

Yes.

You were also molested?

Yes.

Oh my god.

What did you do?

First, I was was oral sex.

Okay, oral sex. What else?

I did... ...sex.

In a intimate relationship?

Yes.

What else? I hugged and kissed. You touched the body. Yes. I'm sorry, but are you from? Can I ask? So, that ****** is my father's relative.

So, how do I say this, Doc?

Your cousin? Yes, my cousin. This Kiai is your father's relative?

Yes.

So you're cousins?

Yes.

How old is he?

He's 52 years old. He's 52 years old. He's 52 years old. So, this Kiai is adopted by your father? Yes. So, you are cousins? Yes. How old is he?

He's 52 years old.

52 years old?

Yes.

Okay. I'm sorry, he asked you to do oral when you were how old?

6th grade.

Oh, shit.

I'm sorry, you can answer or not.

You did it? Shit. Okay, you can tell us about your story. So, when I was in 6th grade, I lived with my mother. Because when I was in 6th grade, Zulfa was in 1st grade, I was asked to accompany his mother. Because Zulfa is a trendsetter, so I was him to accompany me because his wife is alone at home and scared.

You live at his house?

Yes, at his house.

Okay, next time, let's not say his name, okay? Because later we will beep in front of him. What do you call him? Kiai? Wa?

Wa.

Wa. Okay, Wa. So you live there with his wife too?

Yes, with my wife.

Does she have a wife?

Yes, she does.

Okay. And then, when I was in 6th grade, I started living at her house. After that, I just kept going out. And then, in the middle of my journey, I was used to going to elementary school, you are escorted by your wife. But this time, he asked for a ride. Finally, in the middle of the road, he stopped and said, he said his shame was annoying.

Finally, I was asked to hold his shame. After that, he asked me to tell him to mute his embarrassment while he was being forced to watch porn movies.

Forced to.

Forced. And I was forced to do it. That was when you were in 6th grade? Yes, because I still remember what I was wearing, and it was still early in the morning.

Sorry, do you understand?

Not yet.

Not yet, of course.

Yes, because I was also confused at that time, like, what is this usual thing that people often do or what? I was still confused. Even after I got to school, I was still confused. What was I doing? Why did it feel uncomfortable?

I thought, well, it's just a normal thing. After that, he kept doing it at home. Did he force you to do it or did you just give him a piece of advice? He forced me. Because he would often, all of a sudden, for example, I would sleep in Zulfa's room.

He would suddenly goa's room. He suddenly entered the room. While I was sleeping, he woke me up to pray. But he did it in a way of holding my shawl.

Okay. Was that done in the car?

Yes, in the car. After that, I did it at home.

At home too? Yes, at home. At home too? Yes, at home. And you didn't know that it was wrong? And you didn't know that it was... No. Yes, it's not good, it's disgusting, right?

Did you feel that and you didn't report it?

When he did it, I could only stay silent.

I couldn't say anything. Why didn't you report it? Because... I was still confused. I couldn't say anything. After he did it a few times, I had a chance to talk to him.

But I saw him treating his wife like a rude person.

So I was afraid.

If I said anything, it would be a problem. I was also slapped. Okay. Next, I want to ask you about the relationship between you and your husband.

What is the relationship between you and your husband? I was afraid that if I said it, it would cause a problem. I was also slapped.

Okay.

Next?

Yes, after that, even if I don't have a wife, he would still do it. Sometimes, when I leave school, it's in high school, right? He would wake me up, I would wake already up, and his wife was still asleep. He followed me to the kitchen to get some food. Then he did this. He asked me to speak to him, to kiss him, and all that.

Until later, when I was in high school, my friend told me, When I was in high school, I had a friend. There were two people. He... His wife wasn't there. He said, Sal, let's go to my grandma's house.

I said, sure, just a minute. I told my friend, I want to go to my grandma's house. He said, okay, since it's still dawn, my friend will wait. He kept saying, Sal, let's go to my grandmother's house. He said, oh, okay. Because it was still dawn, my friend was waiting for me. He kept saying, let's go to my grandmother's house. Until I was all dressed up, my friend had just come home. When I went into the house, he told me to go to my room.

But it wasn't my grandmother's house. He said, let's not go to my grandmother's house tomorrow. Then he made a confession to me. I'm I put the stuff inside. How old were you? I was still in the first year of high school. I was 13 years old. The first time he was raped, he was 13 years old.

He wanted to move, but he was forced to do so. His body couldn't move, couldn't move, couldn't even scream. And then suddenly, he had a blood transfusion the next day. Yes, and I felt it was really painful, Doc. But I couldn't cry, but when it was over, I cried. Because it was painful to walk.

How is it? It was really painful to walk. It was really painful. Until in the morning, because I hadn't menstruated there, so I thought...

You hadn't menstruated at all?

No, not yet.

You hadn't menstruated at all?

No.

After that, I was happy because my friends were already in their teens, so I told my friend, I'm a mens. And my friend said, oh yeah. But I only had two days, but it wasn't two full days. I asked my friend, how many days do you usually have menstruation? He said, I usually have it for a week. I was like, I only have two days, but I don't have menstruation.

When I had my first period, I was in the second grade of high school. I I don't believe that. Like, that's just a rumor. That's it. His family, I'm sorry, I'm just guessing. I cut this, his big family, every time they have a problem, the little kid doesn't believe it.

For example, they experience something, he doesn't believe it. Especially this ***, he's the first child in the family, the first child, he's the most trusted, he's relied on, has a big name, I need you to an upper Toma the quarter it to the an upper Toma the adipaling Nipa chaiya the and I'll come put another son to the Kato I need to trust Alessia Banya Jesus a quarter it to the per se a nice a messy

I need to lose okay so I can't I knew you're a specific yeah you need a detail do you do yeah in it was but a little bit to put a bop I knew you to this or I'm here you got He actually had a father, he was a KIAI as well, his name was KIAI *** and he followed his father's footsteps.

He then eventually... Did he have a family? He didn't have a family, but he had a school foundation. He had a school foundation?

Yes, he became the head of the foundation, the foundation *** in Bekasi, there is, Doc.

Okay.

His address is in Rawakalong area.

And he is a scholar?

Yes, he is a scholar.

A great scholar?

Yes, a great scholar. He is quite famous in Bekasi and Jabodetabek. Many people know him and he is also famous in the surrounding areas of Jabodetabek.

So, he has a high level of religious knowledge?

Yes.

It should be like that. If he is already known as a great scholar. I I'm sorry, she's a matchmaker from the surrounding villages. My mother lives near her parents' house. She's a matchmaker, she can marry anyone. I'm sorry, the woman she married wasn't the one that was according to the Prophet's criteria. She wasn't the one who that old women need help, but young, beautiful women,

who are probably 20 years younger than him, or young children, 18, 19, 20 years old, he marries women like that.

He already has a wife, right?

Yes. What kind of wife is this? That's the first wife. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. Do you know what it means? He should know, but he doesn't. No.

But he's like...

Even if he were to tell me, I wouldn't believe him.

We're talking about a scholar, right? Yes. About a teacher, right? I don't want to slander the teacher. Right. I love teachers and I also have a lot of respect for teachers.

Do you have any proof of this conversation? I'm sorry, but do you have any proof of this conversation? I'm sorry, but do you have any proof?

I do.

I have a video chat proof.

What chat?

Every time he asked for a video of me taking a shower, every time he sends me money transfer, he always says, Dad sent money transfers without you asking. You didn't send me a video. Why should I ask for it? He tortured me a lot during college.

He cheated on you?

He asked for your video?

When I took a shower. Every time I took a shower.

What else?

Maybe a video of me doing mediation. Oh, you did mediation? Yes, family mediation. He admitted that he was drunk. When he was recording, he approached me. When he was leaving the house, I was recording too.

He admitted that he was wrong, he did things like that, and he kept persuading me to go back. He even said, When we're in office, I promise I won't do that again. I will take care of you like I take care of my father's widow.

Is this a screenshot? Yes. Can I see the original screenshot?

My phone is in the lab, in the investigator's lab.

It's been taken? Okay, I'll just read what's written here. You use your father's name here. You were given a bowl. The bowl was only 100,000. Always healthy, your father's love.

You miss him every day. Only a letter from your brother. Only a letter from his brother.

The letter means video. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, nanti. Kemu jawab. Terima kasih ya sayang. Besok pulang lagi. Kami akan berjumpa lagi.

Kami akan berjumpa lagi.

Kami akan berjumpa lagi. Kami akan berjumpa lagi. Kira Mandari Kasai Angan Kalau Bisa Di Tambah Dengan Gaya Yang Geni Yeah, yeah, Nanti Kamu Jawab, Makasih Ya Sayang Besok Pulang Ga Berkabar Kala Pulang Okay, Kamu Jawab Saya Lihat Lagi Ini Jangan Lupa Ya Di Minta Intrus Ya Di Don't forget to keep asking for it. I still have to face the lecturer first. I think I can't go back to the morning now, I'm afraid of the night.

It's okay.

My money is running out. Okay, I'll just read the important part. It's good to read this. the most important thing I feel good reading this Sister, if you have OTW, please let me know because at around 12 I want to go back to Verona

to take care of Tiger and Mowgli Hopefully at that time, I will be in Bekasi Just let me know Let me know before you go to your mother She calls herself Ayah, right? Ayah Don't forget to send me, dear I hope you are doing well. How are you? How are you to your father before to your mother? He calls himself father, right?

Don't forget to send morning-longing medicine, dear. Morning-longing medicine means video?

Video. Every time I take a shower before college, he always calls me just to ask for a video.

I'm sorry. Do you send it?

Yes.

But sometimes I also have excuses, doc. I'm still busy at the campus Yes. But sometimes I also... The reason is also, Doc, I'm still busy at campus or I've already taken a shower, but he still waits.

His father said, he still has some money left, he misses it. I'm looking for what he really asked for, a video. He sent another 200,000. The beauty my love. There's a chat that says, I'm sorry, did you send anything?

Yes, I did. I did.

Let me see.

I even...

Open it at the beginning so it's more lively. So it lasts longer. Oh, there are a lot of them.

Yes.

Let's try to find it. We'll go to the evidence first, and then we'll talk about it again. Okay, while we're looking for it.

So, how was it go after that? After that, I like to wake up in the morning. If not, in the evening, even if I want to do the Tazhar prayer, even if I don't have a wife, she would still hold the prayer mat and wake me up. But she would still wake me up by holding it.

Okay.

And even when her wife went to his parents' house, it was close from there, he asked me to bathe him. And he went into the bathroom.

And did things related to it.

You have a parent, right?

Yes.

You don't tell your parents?

No.

Why don't you tell your parents?

Because I'm afraid. Because their family is the type that... you don't have to believe them.

They're probably just lying.

You're afraid of being lied to?

Yes.

But you didn't ask to move out of the house? I was just lying. You were afraid of being lied to? Yes. But you didn't ask to move out of the house?

No. When I was in 8th grade, I was about to go to college. So I lived at my mother's house for a month. The rest of the time, I was home for a week. I came home on Sunday. At most, I went to school. I only go home once a week. At school, I go home.

Has your wife ever scolded you?

No.

She has never scolded you at all? Maaf. When did you realize that... You slowly understand, right? When we were young, we didn't understand what we're doing is wrong.

When did you understand that this is wrong? When I heard from my friends, because when I was in high school, I often heard my friends say, I got single, I know this, I'm so upset, and then I was like, oh, so it was a misunderstanding. I was so hurt and I was afraid to tell anyone.

I was embarrassed to tell anyone. My friends knew that he was a preacher, a kiai, he's a ustad. So, my friend must have thought, why is he doing that? Why is he like that? I'm lazy to ask a lot of questions,

because even a little story is really heavy. It's like, I'm just embarrassed.

Okay.

When was the last time he did that to you?

In the month of Ramadan.

Still?

Still, when he was fasting. So now he has a foster son. A male. Zulfa and his mother are out. I was there with Zulfa's brother, his older brother, Masuro, and me. I was sleeping.

I was sleeping, I was sleeping. Then, he suddenly entered the room, sleeping next to my left side. He held me, and said he missed me. Then, he suddenly lifted my shirt and sucked it out. He asked me to kiss him, but I refused.

I tried to face his younger brother. His younger brother was there?

Yes, he was there.

Look!

He was sleeping.

He was sleeping, okay.

I was having a Sleeping, okay. I was on men's level, so he asked me, but he was holding my embarrassment. He wanted to make sure if I was really a hater or not.

Okay, you're 22 years old.

21.

21 years old, so you're quite mature to refuse, to scream, to complain. Why don't you do that?

When I was being treated, I was like, I was like, I didn't dare to speak, I couldn't speak. Like, suddenly, I was like...

Your body was freezing, right?

I was like, just stay still.

I was scared. He just stayed silent. He was so stiff.

After that, he could only cry. Why didn't I just refuse? Why didn't I fight back? He regretted it as soon as he did it. But when I was sleeping, I imagine it. When I'm sleeping, I imagine that he's going to do this. He's afraid of himself. He's afraid of himself.

I think he's going to do it. He's afraid of himself.

Damn. What about you, Sulfa, what's your story?

I've been living with Salwa since I was little. I lived with my family from kindergarten to third grade. You were all adopted?

Yes.

Who were you originally? I was raised by my mother. My mother said that the perpetrator was a woman.

I was raised by my mother.

I was raised by my mother.

I was raised by my mother.

I was raised by my mother. I was raised because at that time, the reason was, according to my mother, the reason was this actor wanted to have a child for his wife so she could get pregnant. So they adopted me as their child.

Okay.

So I was adopted when I was 16 months old. So you were a baby then. I felt the violence of the abuser since I was a child. I've always been dipped in a big bucket in the bathroom. I don't know, I still don't understand why he did that, or maybe because I was slapped as hard as I could on my face, until my eyes were red. And then, I was asked by his mother,

why did Zulfa do that? What did he do? I'm sorry. So, since I was little, I was always scared when I saw him. Always traumatized, always scared, always... He wouldn't talk. Until finally, in the second year of high school, I moved house.

I moved house. I moved house. I was a trainee from first grade to sixth grade, until third grade. In second grade, he did things... From first grade, he was already used to me, like, pulling my hair, and he would hold me. I think that's normal for parents to their children.

I didn't understand it at that time. Then when I was in the second grade, I was on vacation, he did that when I was sleeping. I was sleeping, he he did something like that. He opened my shirt. He did that, and he also did physical abuse.

When you were in the second grade of junior high?

I was 14. And then...

Where was that?

At home.

What about his wife?

He did that, so every time his wife wasn't there, or his wife was asked to deliver this. He usually likes to bring the fruit and parcel. Maybe he was looking for a way to get the fruit and parcel. Maybe his wife was looking for a way to get the fruit and parcel. Maybe his wife was looking for a way to get the fruit and parcel.

Maybe his wife was looking for a way to get the fruit and parcel. Maybe his wife was looking for a way to get the fruit and parcel. He was upstairs in my room, he was downstairs. He went upstairs and did that. Like, from taking off his clothes, from everything. He did that. It continued until I...

How did you respond? Sorry, I lost my words and I was out of breath. I was out of breath listening to your story. If this was really done by him, I think this person should be arrested.

Right.

How was your response?

I was shocked. Like, what's going on? The reason was, every time he did that to me, he wanted to want to, what is it,

to cure me. So I ordered a treatment. If you order a treatment, they say it's itchy. The reason was, here, let's cure this. The skin?

Yes, the skin. This, the lower part. He said, it will itch if you get a shot. But it didn't itch. And from there, I thought, it was really... At that time, I was really confused.

He treated it like that. Maybe that's how he treated me. I thought like that.

You didn't understand what he meant.

No. I'm also a pastor, so I didn't really understand. Maybe it's because my father loved me. I thought like that. Maybe he wanted to treat me like this so my kid wouldn't be so grumpy. I thought that way at first. Because a gay kid usually likes to be grumpy.

But it turned out that he did it all the time. Every time I had a gay, and he always did that. Until finally, he let me in.

Did he let you in at first?

He did, but it was like he didn't let me in. I felt like, okay, that's it. Then, I didn't understand, and he was like, it's done, I've already treated it. But there, he wiped the liquid that came out. After he wiped it, he was like, it's done. So, every time he did that, after the liquid came out, he felt like he was wearing his clothes again.

That's what he did, and continued like that while I was on vacation.

Okay, and when did he finally really put it in. When was that?

When I was in the second year of high school.

When you were in the second year of high school?

Continuously?

Every vacation in Pondok, yes.

How often? Once a month?

I don't have a vacation in Pondok. Every semester vacation. Every semester vacation.

Six months.

Every six months. Every 6 months.

And there was no one or no one to pick me up at home. When did you realize that was wrong? I realized it when I knew I was her adopted child. I just knew that when I wanted to adopt her.

You didn't know you were her adopted child? No.

You knew you were an adopted child? That's why I thought, oh, she's like this because she loves her child. Maybe it's normal. I thought that because every time she had a trauma or a filling, she would tell her parents that she really loves his son. And I was often brought to his sermon sessions, introduced, like, this is my son. I saw that he deserved to be loved as his own son.

It turned out that I just realized that it was really wrong when I realized that I was not his adopted son. Oh, it turns out that I was like this because I found out I wasn't his adopted child. It turned out I was like this because I was adopted. Maybe the love he's given me all this time isn't as a child. That's what I thought when I got into my second year of high school in Pesantren. And when you found out, what did you do? When I was on my 2nd year high school vacation, I was pranked by my foster mother.

She was doing that to me. She was pranking her wife. I was sleeping upstairs, and then again she was trying to cure me. She was trying to cure my nausea, she said it was itchy. But it wasn't. Then her wife was there, at that time she was told to deliver the parcel.

She had already delivered the parcel to her mother's house, her mother's wife's house. Her mother's house and the tenant's house. His wife's house is near the prison. So he asked me to drop him off there. He was told to make sure he's not at home. He got on the bus. He got on the bus in the afternoon.

When I was sleeping, all my clothes were open. When I woke up, my clothes were open. When I woke up, my clothes were already open, everything was open. When I woke up, my wife screamed. Her wife screamed, like, What are you doing?

No, and then she hurriedly put my skirt up. I was sleeping in a skirt. She hurriedly put my skirt up, and then she put my clothes back. No, I was just treating my acne. She said it's itchy. I said, you shouldn't do that.

It's not right. It's not right if she's itchy. If you're the one who's treating it, it's not right. You should tell me if she's itchy. We fought and I was blamed by my stepmother. She said, you too, you want to be like that, you might be seducing my husband.

I was still confused, still confused, still awake, what is this? Because what I know, maybe he had just opened everything, just opened all my clothes, and then suddenly, I started screaming. I was kicked, slapped, and stabbed. By who? By my stepmother.

Okay.

She was like, From there, I knew that I was not a child of the womb. He said, you are not a child of the womb, you are a foster child. That's why, if you say that, my foster mother would blame me, would scold me, and would kick me out of the house. They said, you're not going to be like this if I didn't pick you up. You won't be trained by your parents.

They said that. But I stayed at home, even though I was kicked out. I stayed there. Maybe my stepmother didn't. The perpetrator said, that's it, don't talk to anyone,

don't talk to your neighbors, don't talk to your family. But my stepmother actually agreed, but maybe because she wasn't strong enough, she told the perpetrator. I told it to the mother of the perpetrator, and the mother of the perpetrator even defended the perpetrator.

She said, maybe the perpetrator really loves his child, and wants to be cured. So, she even defended the perpetrator.

Oh, the parent defended the mother. He was like this.

He didn't defend his mother.

He said, don't talk to anyone. Don't talk to anyone? The mother said, the father talked to his wife. He said, don't talk to anyone. Just let me know. He said, he really loves Julpa.

He doesn't want won't be angry. Especially when his father's son is normal like this.

Okay, after this incident, you know that this is wrong, right? You still asked for a video?

I thought after going to Pergok, he said he loved me, I thought he wouldn't say that again. It turned out that he kept saying that until I went to college. I thought, I have to go to college, I can, I have a long way to go to college, so I can't meet him at home. I was so happy, so happy. And then it turned out that he didn't just come to my campus all of a sudden. And then he didn't even with me when he came.

He suddenly came, he was in front of the faculty, and he told my friend, Zulfanya, please send your dad first, because he can't read the maps to fill in the event there, around the campus. And then what did you do? Yes, we did have a ceremony, but before that, the actor, the reason was, he was going to the ceremony wearing a dress. Later, we went to the mall to buy clothes, to buy formal clothes. I also wanted to clean up, I wanted to pray first, we go to the hotel first.

I also think that going to the hotel first, I want to pray first, I want to do all kinds of things. But there he also did that. Then sometimes when he goes to the hotel, I'm always confused. He puts his phone on the hotel table. I don't know if he's videoing me or what, but I'm afraid to ask him why. His phone is always pointing to me when he's at the hotel.

You're suspected of recording, Barti. hotel. I've actually rejected him a lot. But he's like, whenever he wants to do something, he always forces me to do it. And I don't want to do it. He always forces me to hold his hand. It's okay, it won't hurt for a long time. He always talks like that.

He always whines, it won't hurt, it won't hurt, it won't hurt. Just in front of him, he sometimes wants to put his hand in front of him, it hurts so much. He said, it doesn't hurt anymore.

Besides, it's my brother's intention. That's what makes me, why? Why do people I consider my father all this time say things like this? Who is it for? He said, just marry my father.

He said, just marry my father. Yes.

He said, just marry my father. Who else would I marry? Even though, I can have my own husband. I can find her own man. She always said, I'm just going to be a nurse for my dad.

While you were in the hotel, you already rejected Bartis?

Yes.

I always held on, always held on. I always held on, every time he forced me, every time he, I always stopped him with my hands, and every time I stopped him, he always said no, no, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't hurt. And when he did that, I cried, he just continued with it. He didn't see me crying, he didn't see me holding it in. And then, every time he failed to do something,

I would always be told to speak. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don in college. He would ask me to send him videos of me taking a shower. I lived in a dorm together with my friends. The four of us, me and my friends. I told one of my friends, I said, I'm really tired. Because my friends noticed me, like, every holiday or every Saturday or Sunday you don't go to school, why don't you come back?

Yeah, it's okay, I'm just more tired of being coached, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I told my friend, I've been seeing you a little weird. And every time you take a shower, you're always so slow. When you leave the bathroom, your eyes are like crying. You actually send videos if he sends money.

Yes. Every time he sends money, I always send... He asked his dad to transfer money. He said, I just send money to you without asking you to send it to me. I have to ask you first. And every time he sends a video, I send more and more.

I send more a video. So, three days later, every time he asked for the first video I sent him. So, it was like that again, until he said, Dear, you sent the same video, and then that again. No, it's different, I just took a shower. Even though I was in the bathroom, I was in the bathroom, I was in the bathroom, I was in the bathroom,

I was in the bathroom, I was in the end, he said, Dear, you sent the same video, and that's it. No, it's different. I just took a shower. Even though I sent the same video again and again. Because every time I send a video,

I always think in the bathroom, Am I doing it wrong? But if I don't do it like this, what should I do? I was really scared of him. I was so scared of him.

I really needed money for my tuition and college expenses. I asked my dad to send me money for tuition. He forgot to send it because you didn't send it either. I didn't want to because I was being nagged by the hostess, let's pay, let's pay, it's been late for five days. I didn't want to, I still had to send the video.

Although, honestly, every night I think, I'm so tired, like, alone. Because at that time I didn't know my parents. Then my friend also suggested, hold on, because you're still considered, you can't do anything, you're still a kid, I still depend on him. Later, if you're ready to open this, open this. Until I was like, yeah, just keep going.

Because sometimes, if I really don't want to send it to him, I borrow money from my friend first. I borrow money for my breakfast. Or if there's a reason, like I joined a campus organization, that's why I can't go home, I can't send videos. I even sold my laptop to really survive. Because he always has videos and money. Or before I sent, I should have sent videos first before he sent the money.

It was always like that. Until one night, I decided to kill myself. I said, I can't keep for my stepmother. But now, when I know my stepmother is like that, she is more protective of her husband. I immediately think, what have I been doing all this time? I love her, I'm holding on, so I don't have to leave the house.

I still remember going home. I just remember going home because I remember my stepmother at that time. If there was no stepmother,, I wouldn't have gone home. But the answer that Bundang Kat gave me was like that. Every time I told them, they never listened. Every time I spoke, even if it was with their family,

even if it was their big family family, they still say, this is family business, just close it. You're being forced to study, and now you want to report it to your own father. You've been given everything. I've never asked for anything.

I've never asked for it. I never asked for it. He even told people that I was bought a car, this and that. I never used it. I didn't dare to use it. But he always told people that I was happy and comfortable. I'm living a happy life. I have a car, I'm studying, I'm getting training.

Do you want to drink?

Thank you.

This is not a family matter. This is called evil. This is not a family matter. Tell the perpetrator. If they demand your education, what you are given,

tell them, return everything. I will pay for everything. If they ask you to return everything, tell them, Dr. Richard will return everything. Even if it's school money, I will return all the money. The school money, just count the school money.

I will return all of it to you. This is not a trivial matter. This is not a matter of giving a good answer. Can I see the evidence? I'm sorry, what screenshot is this?

That one.

What is it, Doc? This is a screenshot. Oh, you mean you sent it but it's loading?

Yes, but it's not loading. I did it on purpose. I did it on purpose. And in the end, I said, the video wasn't sent. But it's still there. I'll send it again tomorrow. If not, I'll go straight to the bathroom after school.

Yes.

I'll add one more thing, Jule. He was a tour leader, a tour leader of Umroh. He was a tour leader of Umroh in famous travel sites. He became a tour leader in some famous travel sites. He was quite famous in Bekasi. travel is He was in Mecca, he became a tour leader. He went back to Mecca and he still asked for it.

In Madinah, he was in Egypt too. He kept asking for videos of him. To his own son.

He was even praying in Mecca, he became a tour leader.

Still asking for videos?

Still asking. There's proof of it.

There's a screenshot of it.

Can I see it?

Yes.

When was the last time he did that to you?

Yesterday, June 27th.

Still?

When I left home, that time too.

Asking for videos?

At that time, I had graduated from college, so he did it right away at home. I'm But he put it in when I was about to put on my clothes. From behind.

You're not impulsive, you're not reluctant. You're afraid.

How, Doc? Every time I want to be impulsive, he always holds me back. Then he always forces me. Because he's a rough person, Doc.

I understand. You're afraid too, you're weak. I understand. Alhamdulillah, Ayah has reached Mecca. the Yes, later. Her father said, yes, dear. Then, Emad cried. Wait a minute, I haven't been able to send a video since yesterday. Because my memory is full. So I have to delete it first. What made you guys finally report?

So, at first, before Zulfa left the house, Zulfa and I would tell each other stories. Like, I was so tired, I was scolded.

Did you know each other?

No, not yet.

You knew your own problems, but he didn't know his own problems. No.

Okay.

At that time, I was still chatting with Zulfa. He was crying, like, Okay. Finally, he came out of the house. Then, Zulfa's foster mother called me. Is Zulfa there? Is Zulfa there? And Zulfa told me, don't tell anyone, okay? Only those who know you.

So I was sad to see Zulfa really come out of the house. Maybe at first I didn't know if Zulfa was being tortured by her adoptive father. I was worried that she might leave the house, that her parents would look for her, and that her adoptive mother would call me to ask if I knew where Zulfa was. I pretended not to know.

Zulfa didn't know anything either. I told Zulfa, where were you? Please find me first. I'm worried about you. Because she was so red.

Her eyes were so red. I thought maybe she was not just having a problem because he was being nagged at. So I met Zulfa in the evening, I put him in my friend's apartment because I was confused about where he would sleep that night. So I put him in my friend's apartment

and he looked for an apartment. We kept telling him, you can stay there, calm down. I thought he would go home. What if you leave the house, but you still go home. Because I was confused about the reason.

Because the perpetrator was still looking for you.

What was the last thing that strengthened you two?

We communicated, like, Zulfa was like, please, don't tell him, you tell him any reason. Because Zulfa didn't want to meet the perpetrator. Finally, I said Zulfa went to Malang. Because he really pointed out to me, like, I really don't know where she is.

I really don't know. Until I finally found an excuse to, like, oh, maybe she's in Zulfa's friend's house, maybe. Near the house, right? I finally looked for her there with that ***. Because I was confused,ulfa's friend's house in Kaliwa. It was near my house. I was looking for him.

I was confused. I was wondering what Zulfa was talking about. I was looking for him. I was confused.

What should I do?

She was looking for Zulfa? Yes, with me. With you too? Yes, I was looking for him. You already knew each other?, you already knew each other.

We already knew each other. Finally, when we were in the middle of the road, that ****** was talking, like, Zulfa, do you have any stories about Wathung? I was thinking, like, what story is this? About Wathung?

Yes, the story. He said, Zulfa has a story about Wathung. I was like, what story? I think Zulfa has something to tell.

You didn't know at that time?

I didn't know. Finally, when Zulfa got the house, I met Zulfa again. We talked for a long time. I was in Zulfa's place that day. Zulfa told me that she sent her husband to the bathroom. We told each other about it.

What made you guys report it?

We were tired. Who supported you? At that time, my friends. Because when I was in the family, I also brought my friends to school.

Do you have a lawyer?

I have one now.

Where is it from?

From a law firm, Martin and Broto.

Where did you get the law firm from? Broto. Where did you get the information from?

It was from a friend. When they had reported the case, but there was no lawyer, I tried to find a lawyer for the LBH. But there were still many who couldn't help with a case like this. So I got the information with a lot of cases like this. Then I got to know him through a friend.

He was quite close to the interviewer. And he took over the case.

Have you reported it to which police station?

To the Metropolitan Police Station in Mekasi, Cikarang.

What stage is it at?

It's at the investigation stage. Has it reached the investigation stage? Yes, it has. It's at the investigation progressed? The investigation has reached the investigation department.

Has it reached the investigation department? Yes, it has. It has reached the investigation department. It is unexpected that it hasn't reached the department yet.

It hasn't reached the department yet.

Has the mobile phone been sent to the digital forensic department? Yes, it has. Has it been sent to the BAP?

Has it been sent to the BAP? Yes, it has. So from the beginning, these kids, they picked up in front of their family. Finally, Salwa's family and Zulfa's family didn't live in one circle anymore. They left from there. And there, the big family, the perpetrators and the perpetrators, came to Salwa's mother's workplace.

There, they were like, what is it, intimidating so that they didn't report this case. Don't let this case go to the police.

Because it's like...

Ask to be fired, right?

Yes.

That's what was recorded.

Yes.

Can I hear the recording? Was it with the two of you? Or was it recorded one by one?

Ah...

I mean...

If it was recorded,

was there a voice recording?

The one that was recorded, no, there was only a photo. I'm sorry. If you were visited, did you record your voice? No, we didn't. We only have a photo.

Oh.

No, were you two the ones who were visited for mediation?

No, they met their parents.

Their parents.

But you were both there?

Your parents were both there? Or...

No.

Who were the parents that were visited? My parents. Your parents.

Were your parents visited? to his family asked for peace. Okay. What you said earlier, is there any evidence? That was when the family's media, when Salwa and I talked to the big family.

Okay. Does he have his own voice?

Yes.

Let me hear it. This was viralized yesterday, what was the response from the Kiai? I don't remember if I said Kiai. What was the response of the perpetrator?

We don't know yet.

There's no charge yet? Yes. Can you zoom in?

I was bullied by my father since I was in elementary school. He said, because we both want to. No, I was depressed for God's sake. I was depressed. Even until I really got to know my mother.

I was really, really, I was really seduced by my mother. Just like that. I was crazy for God's sake. I will change. I don was going to change for the sake of God. I didn't want to do it again. But it turned out that the more I came here, the more I didn't want to do it.

I don't know if I'm honest or not. I don't know if my husband is looking for me. I'm afraid to tell my parents. I'm afraid to tell my parents. I was afraid to tell my parents. But I haven't heard anything all this time. Because I'm a mother's daughter.

I always remember my mother. I don't want to disappoint my mother. I don't know if I want to be a nun or not. Even my father said that I was a burden to him. I'm just a burden to him. I'm just going to marry him.

I don't know if I want to be honest or not.

I'm sure I won to be honest with you.

I'm tired of staying at home. I can't continue this.

I can't just stay quiet like this. I'm not this. I don't want to. I don't want to. I even have proof. Maybe I can say, remove our chat, remove our videos. No, I never deleted them from the beginning.

I never deleted them. Every time I finish my TF, I ask for a video.'m so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I'm so stressed I'm so stressed I'm always like this I'm always like this I don't understand I don't understand

I'm like this, dancing I don't understand I don't understand I don't understand how I feel I'm crying! Don't cry, sister!

It's your fault! If you don't want to, I don't want to!

There's no sound from his father.

There is. Huh?

There's this.

Maybe because I'm so close to Zul... in I will not be disturbed by absurd creatures that destroy everything Dog I know

You're not listening to me

I'm sorry Yes, I'm sorry

Why?

I'm not responsible for that

I'm not responsible for that

I'm not responsible for that

I have proof

But I can't go right now

I don't understand I don't understand what you're saying

And that's why I'm not, I don't know what you're talking about. And that's...

It's okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The reason why I'm sorry...

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. He said he was being harassed, he was being slandered. He said he was being slandered every time he gave a speech. He said every time he gave a speech, he said, Jama'ah, Jama'ah, don't believe every news.

He still gave a speech?

Yes, he did.

There was an invitation on the 28th of September.

28th September 28?

Yes, September 28, the Maulid invitation. But it was cancelled.

It was cancelled?

Yes.

When the news went viral. And he and his family still do their weekly readings, at the mosque or at the mosque, at the orphanage, at their parents' house. He still does it. in the mosque or in the mosque of the house of the parents. He's still here, Doc. In fact, honestly, Doc, as someone who accompanies them, I have contacted the Ustaz-Ustazas who are the teachers of the mosque,

but they don't trust me. They already, I mean, this ***, he's a bit of a jerk. How can you make that to him? A teacher in your mosque.

What about you, Salwa? What do you want?

I want him to be like Dilfa, I want him to be suspected.

And I want... I want him to be arrested.

Yeah, arrested.

He's just a suspect.

Can I help? Sure. in We'll double it, using my power of law. We'll have a press conference tomorrow. I'll be helping you guys. Do you want to?

Yes.

I want to, if the doctor is okay.

If you want, I'll have a press conference tomorrow for you. I'll gather the media, I support my legal team for you. Do you want to?

We'll chase it.

We'll chase justice for you. Because I think this is a betrayal.

Because honestly, I just want to... Because in my family there are a lot of girls, I want my cousins to be like me. Are there other victims besides you?

Maybe.

There must be, Doc.

But they don't know. Maybe they don't want to.

They don't dare to.

We just don't want to have the next Zulfa Salwa, Doc. Because in our family, there are a lot of girls. I help you, but you have to promise me one thing. There must be no peace. I also went to my parents' workplace, my mom's workplace, my dad's workplace, my brother's workplace.

What did you call me?

I called you to ask for peace. We met, we called each other Wabibi and Wama. We talked to each other, we were still good brothers and sisters. We didn't apologize. Even the host was very diligent in contacting the victim's family. And also the police,

and also to the victim's interview.

Good afternoon, where are you now? I want to give you a case. Can we have a press conference in Jakarta tomorrow? There is a sexual harassment case by a a religious scholar known in Bekasi.

Child molestation at a young age. I'm doing a podcast with them. They have been working since they were 13, 14, since they were in high school, high school, sending photos, sending videos, even having intimate relationships.

I want to accompany them. Can you help me?

Sure, sure.

Have you all resumed the report?

Yes.

Have you resumed it?

Yes.

Resumed?

Yes.

The report has reached SIDIK. I want to push for a press conference tomorrow. I want to give them support. I'll schedule a press conference with you tomorrow in Jakarta. Thank you.

What else do you want to say? I want to say that *** family is not disturb my family. Because until now, I can't take my stuff like documents, clothes, everything. The needs of the house. Because my room is packed and all of it is taken away not being able to take my stuff.

Have you finished your studies?

I'm still in college. Still in college? And you?

I'm done.

You're done with your studies?

Yes.

If you need anything, just ask me. If you need anything, just ask me. I'll help you.