Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands.I'm Mark Goldbridge.I almost don't know what to say.I genuinely want apologies for this because I'm being thrown in at the deep end here.I do not know what to say.Manchester United are signing Andre Santos from Chelsea for £50 million.
I have got to be very careful about what I say here.Very, very careful because I think in life you have to be honest.And I think this is a shit deal.I'm sorry.I think it's absolutely shit.If you're a Chelsea fan, you must be absolutely over the moon.
We've given you the ganacho money back plus 10 million pounds.Absolutely.You know, fair play to Mike Keegan as well.He called this before Ornstein.I know Ornstein's taking the credit, but remember he mentioned it.Mike Keegan three hours ago.
He called this.I think this is a fucking joke.I think this is absolutely ridiculous.You spend Nine months talking about Elliot Anderson, but you don't want to pay for him.You spend six weeks going for Mateus Fernandes, but you don't want to pay for him.And then you react by throwing £50 million at Chelsea for a bench player.
It's incredible how quick we have moved on the wrong deal.And we've overpaid.I mean, that's the thing.We've overpaid.He is a bench player for Chelsea.They paid £15 million for him.
We're giving them £50 million, £48 million plus easily achievable add -ons.it's it's it's a ridiculous deal it better work it better work because and you know edison and santos what did they do we can't replace casimiro so let's get two mid brazilians and and together that replaces casimiro i just i just i don't get it i mean look what i will say is we can't blame the player we've got to hope that somebody somewherehas got the data right.But how have we given Chelsea?What are Chelsea going to do with that £50 million as well?You know, if they go and sign Adam Wharton or Alex Scott, what the fuck have we done?
I mean, has Sir Jim Radcliffe got shares in Chelsea or something?I mean, Mason Mount was bad enough.I just don't know.United Way says toxic bridge.Mate, it's not toxic to have an opinion that you don't agree with.I think this is wild.
I think this is desperate.I think this is crazy.And what I'm saying is I hope it bloody works.I'll back any player that we sign and I really hope it works.But you've got to be honest.You've got to be honest.
You haven't watched him.I have seen him, Kasper.And look, I know some of you just get excited about any signing.I understand that.And if you're happy, absolutely respect it.I really do.
But don't start coming for me and everybody else who thinks this is a really strange deal.So I'm really happy for you if you're excited.You know, he actually does have a lot of...He has quite a high passes per 90.I've said this before.But Chelsea fans are rejoicing in the streets.
They're having a party.They paid £15 million for a bench player.They've just sold him for three and a half times his value.He barely plays for Chelsea.And they'll be able to use that money to buy a better player.Now, you can pretend he's a superstar, but you don't have the facts.
You don't.We've bought a prospect that may end up being a superstar, but certainly isn't at the moment.And I'll tell you what as well, none of you, none of you that are cheering for this deal mentioned his name in March, April or May or June.Nobody said, let's stop negotiating for Mateus Fernandez and go for Andre Santos.Oh, forget about Elliot Anderson.The real quiz is Andre Santos.
You know what?I've been thinking about United's midfield.And although I really want Tenali, Bruno G, Chiminey, Fernandes, Anderson, Wharton, Scott, actually, what about Andre Santos?I've never heard anybody say it.I've never heard anybody say, let's put Andre Santos.I've heard Jaume Gomez.
I've heard James Garner.I've heard Stiller.I have never heard anybody say, let's go and get Andre Santos.And that's why I'm worried.This is not...I wish the lad all the best.
Welcome to Manchester United.This is not about him.This is about a board that defies logic every single day, won't overpay on Anderson, won't overpay on Tonali, won't overpay on Mateus Fernandes, but will overpay on a player that's 50 million pounds.And this is what worried me. I literally said this.It's not about overpaying.It's about limits.
They don't want to buy anybody over £80 million.So it's not about overpaying.If Mateus Fernandes had been available for £70 million, they'd have paid it.They don't want to go over £80 million.So even though Andre Santos is a £30 million player, we'll still give £20 million more because it's under £70 million.We have massively, massively overpaid on him.
He is not a £50 million player.He's not a starter for Chelsea.How is he worth £50 million?How is he worth £50 million?
Look, Rory Jennings has just messaged me saying he's a good player, mate.Now, Rory said Erling Haaland would flop.He said Ronaldo wouldn't score in a World Cup.So, look, let's hope Rory's right.Let's hope he is.But, look, what worries me most is what's next.
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Get started freeThat's £90 million of our midfield budget gone.On what?On what?we've spent 40 on Edison and 50 on Santos that's 90 million quid on two players and I'm like on what so look some people are saying Santos is good I've never heard you say Santos is good you're a liar mate you're a fucking liar and you know you are I have never heard you come on this chat and say Santos is a good player what it is is somebody's giving you a shiny new toy and you're begging it.You're going, oh, yeah, I've always liked Santos.I've always liked him.
I've never heard anybody talk about him.And I'm not saying he's a bad player.I'm not saying this.Have I said he's a bag of shit?Have I said he's a load of rubbish?I actually did a video the other day saying he does complete quite a lot of passes, but he is not a player that we should be signing for our midfield.
He is not a player that is going to, you know, make Man United great.in my opinion, and that's my problem.We were talking about Elliot Anderson.We were talking about Tonali.We were talking about Chimini.We were talking about Bruno Guimaraes.
And we've bought Edison and Santos.It's the sort of thing I think Everton would do.And we've bought cheap, but we've overpaid for it.
Edison had a year left on his contract and they still got £40 million out of us.Santos, they paid £15 million for.He's barely broke into the first team and they're getting 50.We've been rinsed.We've been absolutely rinsed.The price is a joke.
And how is he worth 50 million quid?How is he worth 50 million pounds?Can somebody explain to me how he's worth 50 million pounds for a start?15 million quid they paid for him.He's not broke into the first team.And we've given them three and a half times his value.
But we don't want to overpay on Matej's finances.we don't want to overpay on Chiumaini, we don't want to overpay on Elliott Anderson, but we'll give £50 million.We've given them the Ganaccio money back.Chelsea have took us for £105 million in the last three years for Mount and Santos.Somebody needs to check Sir Jim Radcliffe's bloody ownings.Has he got shares in Chelsea?
I mean, it's mad.It's absolutely mad.
Look, There is no point.I've said my piece.We've got to get behind the player and hope that he's a good player.You know, he could be a preseason Perlow, couldn't he?Look, we've got to get behind it.We've got to get behind it.
That's what we've got to do because we've got no other choice.But I'm stunned.I'm absolutely stunned.Yeah, I can't believe how quick we've moved.But then again, we've probably moved quick because Chelsea said, It's now or never, 50 million quid.And we've gone there's 50 million quid.
Yeah.What have we learned?Some people are just saying there's some other stuff coming out.
Man United reach agreement with Chelsea to sign Santos from Chelsea.
48 million pounds plus 2 million easily achievable add -ons plus 10 % sell -on clause.Permission to do medical personal terms in place.One minute later, Bruno Guimaraes informs Newcastle United of wish to leave and join Arsenal.Arsenal stepping up pursuit, ready to offer deal worth up to 60 million at present, but no club to club contact.Maybe it's only me that's living in this fucking sewer of United transfer business.
You've got Bruno Guimaraes.is going to Arsenal.You've got Elliot Anderson going to Man City.You've got Fernandes Antonali going to West Ham, going to Tottenham.And we're signing Santos from Chelsea.
I just need to take a deep breath because I cannot believe that we're giving Chelsea 50 million quid as well.What are they going to go and do with that money?What are they going to buy with that money that we should have bought?I don't know.I've got to get into the comments.I mean, I half thought maybe I should wait an hour before I go live.
But to be honest, I don't think my opinion is going to change.I'm disgusted with our board.I'm fed up of their incompetence.And I cannot believe we're giving £50 million to Chelsea for a player that's not worth £30.
It's mad.I don't know why we're overpaying.I don't know why we're giving money to Chelsea in the first place.We don't seem to understand this.They are a direct rival and we are strengthening them.It's crazy to me.
It's absolutely crazy.And as I said, look, let's talk about the player.We've got to help the player.We have to help the player.We have to.Like, he's a Man United player.
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Get started freeWe've got to support him.You know, we can't be saying you're a bag of shit before you've even played.
Hopefully, he'll come into preseason.We'll play some shit teams in preseason and he'll look like Prime fucking Pirlo.But, what United will try and do is, on a positive note, they will try and say that the data says Santos.But that's a lie.That is a lie.Because the data said Tenali.
The data said Anderson.The data said Mateus Fernandes.The data said Alex Scott.The data did not say Andre Santos.we would have signed him in May.We're just going down the list to Andre Santos for somebody that's actually within our budget.
So he will be on our list, but lower down.I'm just going to say it.Would you rather have Buleyba or Santos?I don't feel I genuinely don't know whether I can answer that question.I I'm going to put it as a poll.I thought that I didn't think there could be a signing as underwhelming as Buleyba to Manchester United.
And I'm sort of, I'm sort of thinking I'd have preferred Buleyba.Because at least he had that season.I haven't seen anything from Santos that makes me think, I mean, he's not ready either, is he?
He's another bloody prospect.He's not ready.He's not ready to start for Man United next to Mane, who is he?
It's another prospect.It's another, you know what it is?It's like Andy Mitton said, it's another player with a sell -on value, isn't it?It's a 22 -year -old with a sell -on value.But look, searching for the positives, I have seen a bit of him play, as I'm sure many of you are.To me, he looks a little bit lightweight defensively.
His positional sense defensively looks a little bit all over the place, but he is only 22.I think on the ball, he's probably the best midfielder we've got now.I think on the ball, passing -wise, he's better than Edison and he's better than Mainu.I think on the ball, he's quite decent.And what I mean by that is he's quite good at taking the ball, the little passes.We do need a player like that.
He could help us in possession.That's the positive.But when I say that, I'm only saying it like it's James Garner.I'm not saying he's like Rodri.I don't think he's got that.You know, he's not, he's not that.
There is a, there is a, there is a, there are levels to this.He is good on the ball, but he's only as good, he's only good on the ball at a certain level.He's not, he's not Rodri.He's not going to dictate midfields and run, you know, the Premier League.There's a lot of work to do with him.He's definitely a prospect.
As I say, I think the positives are his passing and possession work.The negatives are, I think, physically, and positionally, there's a lot of work to do.And it's a prospect for 50 million quid.I mean, we spent 50 million pounds on Lenny Oro.He's not in the team yet.So yeah.
And look, to anybody who's saying Santos is good, you can put it in the chat as much as you like, if it's helping you believe something that you don't believe.Because as I'll say, and I can see a lot of people in the chat saying it, Why weren't you saying Santos was good a month ago?Why weren't you saying Santos was good two weeks ago?Why have you got your head so far up the arse of this incompetent board that they can literally deliver a piece of shit and you lick it and say that tastes nice?And I'm not saying he's shit, but what I'm saying is nobody was talking about Santos at all and they're now saying he's good, which means you trust this board.
Because you weren't talking about him.So now you're saying he's a great signing.So you obviously trust this board, don't you?Well done.It's 50 -50 on Buleba and Santos.
I don't know.I don't know.I didn't want Buleba.I think this is such a left field signing.I don't know.I didn't want Buleba and I didn't want Santos, to be honest with you, but I will back.
I'll back the player but I just think this board is a joke and I think they've took the piss as well, I think, to overpay on a player because they're worth £50 million.Look, they'll overpay on
He's not a £50m player.He's just not.He's not a £50m player.There's no justification for that at all.He's not a starter for Chelsea.They only bought him for £15m.
He's only 22.He's just not a £50m player.I don't know why we're paying that amount of money either.And the scary thing is, is what Chelsea are going to do with that.I tell you what, if Chelsea sign Alex Scott, I'll fucking lose it.If Chelsea go and sign Alex Scott, I'm going to fucking lose it.
I will lose it if they sign Alex Scott.Wharton, I can just about deal with.I think a lot of people won't.But if they go and use that £50 million to sign Alex Scott, I'll fucking lose it big time.You can't fund a rival to get a better midfield than your game.You can't do that.
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Get started freeLet me get into some of your comments anyway.I've had my say.Look, ultimately, I'm reacting to this live.I don't have time or the comfort or the luxury of, you know, taking it in and going for a walk and stuff like that.I'm reacting to this live.I am stunned by this.
I'm stunned that we've gone for a player like that as our second midfielder as well.
And remember, we've got, you know, if Santos was the Edison, fine, but we've already got Edison.If it was Santos in the Edison role and we weren't signing Edison, fine.But this is our second midfielder.This is our tier two midfielder.This is like Edison -Santos, you know.So I'm stunned by it.
I'm also stunned by the fee.You know last week when they were saying 50 million quid?I was like, fuck off.You can dream on.
When I heard 50 million pounds is what Chelsea wanted for Santos, I was like, you're having a laugh.And United aren't that stupid because we don't overpay.
And we've gone and rushed to do it.I mean, fair play to Chelsea, fair play to Chelsea.What did they do?Did they tell them Tottenham were bidding or something?I don't know how they've took us for 50 million quid so quick, but United have rushed in, haven't they, to do it.
So look, not happy with the fee, not happy with the deal, but as I always do, I'll back the player.It's not his fault.I'll back the player.But do I agree with this deal?Sadly, no, I don't.But I'll back the player.
What else?What else can we do?Tiger says these owners will do and say anything to divide our fan base.Underwhelming news and excuses provoking us to argue amongst ourselves instead of focusing on getting their cancer out the club.Transfer market has Fernandes value at 50, Santos at 40.They've overpaid by 25 million less versus their values.
Is Tumini the only one who can save us now, says James.Well, you can't go by transfer market.Chelsea and United exchanging bad players, 50 million, says Suraj.Solving midfield with Brazilian Chuckle Brothers, says Mario Franco.We need a physical monster over six foot, someone who's good aerially, as well as the rest of the top six, with specialist number sixes as well as Ewan Gordon.Let's be real, we're nothing more than a mediocre mid -table club whose higher -ups are only worried about revenue and not what we do on the pitch, says Ashish.
They did this on a day the World Cup can't even distract us, says Phil.Ineos just proves to us that Amrim is the reason we had our best transfer window in over a decade.I rest my case, says Art Shin.We can't have Santos and Edison.Give Real Madrid £90m now, says Hens.And as much as the club don't want to spend on big players, I also think they're not sure on Karrick as our manager, says Tumbleweed.
Gennaccio and Rashford next.Joker for the club off the field, says John.Seriously fed up.says the Mr. Tovey.Does Santos improve our options, says Ray.Well, he does improve our options because we've only got Mainu.
You know, as a number in the midfield, he definitely does.And, you know, it'd be interesting to see who we sign next.A lot of people are saying it's got to be Tchoumini.We're not signing Tchoumini.That deal's off.Unless we're going to produce money we don't have, we're not signing Tchoumini.
We have become a club where nothing is better than nothing.says Mojo.This is the most depressing, worrying window in years.90 million on a 22 -year -old with little experience plus Emerson and Edison's got no Premier League experience.What next, says Alex.Only pleased thing about this deal is that it proves we can do a deal quicker than four weeks, says Maxi.
We could have bought Pulisic with this, says Alex.When you feel the club couldn't make you feel any lower, says Anthony.Serious Fred vibes, says Sully.Santos is really underrated.Yes, I think we've overpaid, says Kay.Yes, I think it's a desperate deal.
However, I don't mind this deal if we grow a pair and get Chiomini as the marquee signing.That's not going to happen.Will they get Scott next, says JBS.And with your connections in football and size of United stand, you can't let the board, can you let the board know how angry the fans are?Oh, Mitesh, they already know.The board monitor social media anyway.
They'll know the reaction to this.But they'll sit there and go, the fans are morons.We know best.That's the attitude of this board.They do not listen to fans.They do not care about fans.
They think they know best, which is absolutely brilliant if you do get proved right.
But they sit there and go, we know best, and then they fuck up.
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Get started freeIf we spent 50 million on Santos, why didn't we just pay 20 million for Hackney's once?It's a prospect to sell and give Chelsea back 10 % says Jack.Third midfielder is going to be Belayber, I'm telling you now, says Paul.The only data they're looking at is the bank statement.Absolute joke.We're a champagne club with a lemonade budget.
We have to do better, says all things weaning.Mark, we had our pants taken off.This is depressing, says Marcus.It hurts me to think we could have got Stiller for the same price.This just sums up how unambitious and clueless the board is.Get out, says Jay.
We need Chumini now.Prefer Santos over Baleibas, says Christy.This is not Carrick signing, it's Ineos signing.Ineos are basically the manager, says Alex.Thanks, Sir Alex and the horse for this, Marks, says Ewan.I personally don't agree with the signing, but I'm going to back him.
But correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't we linked with him under Amrum as well, says Jonathan.And do you think they'll call off Edison and sign Santos instead, says Andre Gomez.I mean, I don't want the Edison deal to fall through, but it would make this more palatable if he was the third signing, as the second signing.If Edison and Santos are fillers, Ciamini must be happening, says Hinton.I don't know why people are talking about Ciumini, by the way.There is zero prospect of that happening.
Hopefully, Edison be off so I could be a little bit calm, says Arsene.There's a sell -on clause too, says Mullad.Yeah, so if Santos does really well and we sell him, Chelsea get 10%.£50 million for a sub with the worst negotiators in the Premier League, says Neil.Baleibro or Santos, Mark?Well, look, it's 50 -50 in the poll.
I genuinely don't know.And I desperately didn't want Buleba.And I desperately...You know what?I think by not answering it, I'm answering it.I desperately didn't want Buleba.
And I'm not sure who I'd go for out of those.I'm a little bit like Pete Phillips.I refuse to vote in the poll because I don't want either of them.I just don't know what's worse.I really don't.They have to send Edison back now.
Few minks as Zayn.Could have got Bruno G for 60 million, says Irish Ryan.What happened to Premier League Provence, says Bente.How does Spurs get to sign Tonali and we're not able to get second option midfielders?All that interview was just a smokescreen, says Vivek.You're not alone.
This is madness.Makes absolutely no sense.I can't believe this.How did this deal make any sense, says Brian.Which midfielder could it be?this rebuild now, says Andre.
Well, I agree with Chumini, but we're not going to do it.So I don't know where we go now.Every player that I wanted to replace Casemiro is going somewhere else.Bruno G, Arsenal, Tonali, Spurs, Anderson, Man City, Fernandes.Well, I didn't really want him to replace Casemiro.Chumini's staying at Real Madrid.
So Casemiro replacement is two Brazilian midfielders, says Gil.Yeah, what we've done is basically we can't afford to replace Casemiro.So we've got half and half and we're basically saying we've done it by getting two Brazilians.Matt Clarke just absolutely destroyed us.Man City got Cherokee for 35 million and you've just spent 50 million on a Chelsea bench player.There'll be a lot of those going around.
There'll be a lot of those.I can't think of them off the top of my head, but there'll be a lot of those.There'll be a lot of those.I mean, Bruno Guimaraes is going to Chelsea for 60 million.I know he's 28, but it's only 10 million more than a 22 -year -old unproven Chelsea player, you know?I know he's had a few cameos where he's done all right, but he's unproven.
Rasler says Radcliffe's still got a soft spot for Chelsea.I told you a year ago we're obsessed with Chelsea.I told you we're obsessed with Chelsea.My theory is that United's data may have discovered that Santos and Chiminey have identical data patterns, so they may somehow see him as an alternative.But he hasn't at Banks.He's not.
He's not a defensive monster, Santos.He's not.He's good on the ball, but he's not yet a defensive monster.Maybe he can become that, but he's not yet that.No, David, I don't.It's hard to start over Enzo and Casedo.
I think it's worth it, says Pranav, the Glazer bot.Ineos out, says Chris.Can't wait for that league title now, says SK Visuals.Alonso says I can't speak.People don't realise we started this window in a deficit.To improve on last year, we need to replace what Casemiro did for us last season.
Edison and Santos don't come close.Only hope is Tumini, says Jack David.This tells us everything we need to know about our ambition.Do you feel bad or something about Gannaccio, says Brian.And whenever Chelsea need to sell, they call United, says Noah.Look, there's a lot of people calling them bench players.
I only pose this question without any evidence.What part of you thinks tight arse United are going to spend 40 and 50 million pounds on two bench players?What part of you thinks that one of these is not a starter?I don't think Man United would spend 50 million pounds on a bench player.I don't think Man United would spend 40 million pounds on a bench player.I don't think Santos and Edison are there to sit on the bench with a big marquee signing coming down the road.
I don't.I don't think we'd spend 50 million pounds on a bench player.I might be wrong.But I don't.Unless he's supposed to be another Le Mans and turns out to be Le Mans.Bizarre signing.
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Get started freeOnly thing he did was get Casimiro sent off, says Sean.If he was the third choice, great.But what if he's the first choice, says Marble.What's up with United buying rejects of Chelsea?Chelsea never sell good players.If they're selling means he's not very good, says Akash.
Andron says, my head's on Mars.What are we doing?And thanks for taking Santos.He's terrible, says Kyle.We should have just spent more on any of the other targets as Vagabond.Manchester Everton United has never ignore.
So the club will happily pay 50 for Santos but won't splash the cash for Fernandes.Make it make sense as Sam." I mean, this is what I mean.We've overpaid on Santos by 20 million.He's a £30 million player.Chelsea spent £15 million on him and he's not done enough to be a £15 million player.
So we've overpaid on potential, but we won't overpay on potential with Mateus Fernandes.Wasted funds again.We'll be paying for this in the future.We need to get it right.We could have spent 90 plus at Madrid, says Tony.Surely if we stay buying Brazilian midfielders, we'll eventually find Casemiro regent, says Richie.
Buy cheap, buy twice is the Glinneos' motto, says Nick.And hopefully this means that the Edison deal will fall through, says Charlie Garrison.I hope it works.Not the signing I had on my mind at all, but we will get behind him 100%, says P. Don.We are the red Everton, says Cypher.The worst part is we'll stop here.
We won't go for Tumini now because our budget is 50 million less than what it was when we needed to go for Tumini.The narrative will be now we bought two midfielders for the price of Mateus Fernandes.Spin, spin, spin, says Myad.Santos starts every game for West Ham and Fernandes sits on the bench behind Enzo and Caicedo.888manzy, I think your comment would be brilliant if there wasn't two killers to it.One, I've never heard you mention Santos as a signing for United before, like everybody else who's saying it's a good signing.
And two, on what basis are you telling us that this player is decent?On what basis?He's a prospect, mate.He's a prospect.He's a prospect, that's what he is.And Edison and Santos, Ineos shocking, 0 -10 says Jacob.
Andre Gomez says, I was incredibly excited for this window.Genuinely could have revamped this midfield.Instead, we bottled it by going cheap.Relegation FC, what a joke, says Balewall Justice.It's always Chelsea and Jimbo as a fetish for them, says Manns.If they get Chumini too fine, but if it's just these two, yikes, says Alonso.
You know, I can't disclose stuff right because it's very, very good, but I keep telling you for the last week, we're not in for Tumini.Real Madrid sources today have said he's going to stay at Real Madrid.What is it about you lot that think we're going for Tumini?At what point?are you going to get it in your head?We're not signing Tumini.
You're almost diluting how shit our summer is by kidding yourself that we're signing Tumini.
There is no prospect of that deal at all.We're not close to it.He's not close to leaving Madrid.We wouldn't pay the money anyway.You're fooling yourselves.You're fooling yourselves.
You keep going, this won't be so bad if we sign Tumini.We're not in for Tumini.There's no prospect of it.It's not there.It's bullshit stories from people who are doing it to facilitate God knows what.But credible people are saying it's not happening.
It's not happening.Cheap wages, FC.Well, he will be on very cheap wages.
Here we go.Belabor or Berg next.Cheap, cheap, cheap, says Z. Mount could be on his way to Milan.Mason Mount's not going anywhere, Hinton.Did people want to listen to Favell, though, says Robert McCormack.Mate, Favell, Wilcox is in charge.
Maybe Favell did suggest it, but, you know, Wilcox Barada, Sir Jim Radcliffe, write the cheques.We can't keep living like this.People want to prioritise different transfers to different people.I'm pretty sure two months ago said it's a collective, so they all get the blame, don't they?Will Carrick get the same hostility Amrim had after getting dealt an underwhelming summer?Can't imagine getting Champions League again without a midfield.
It's a shame, says Tiger.Do we trust Favell or not?Santos' Favell picks is keeping it real.Why go, this is our club, so let's hope this works when we know how this is going.Said it from the beginning, Karrick is the enemy of the club.He helped the Glazers stay.
I hope this fails and Glazers fuck off, says Savic.Bruno Guimaraes almost going to Arsenal, says Ridan.I think if we sign Bruno G, then Santos and Chiumini, it would be perfect trio, says Jacob.We paid 200 million for Mount, Santos, Ederson and Chiumini.I hope it falls through.This could ruin everything, says JT.
And much like the Euro deal, we buy a prospect for 50 million where we most likely use someone else in his position for most of the season.What happened to not overpaying and we're funding Chelsea too, says Patrick Lynch, the voice of reason.My whole thing is, if you are someone like Bruno, do you look at these signings as ambitious?Top signings are Tenali, Fernandes, Guimaraes.Very poor, says Ham.United confuse me, so we can do quick deals now, says Jacob.
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Get started freeAnd I can't wait to sign Liam Dalap.It'll be the cherry on the cake of a shit transfer window, says Phil.And so far, we've bought two inexperienced players and an inexperienced coach to coach them.God help us in the Champions League, says Gavin.contract according to Ben Jacobs.Gravenbroek went to Liverpool for 40 million euros, says 8.
What's Salon value, says Ami, he'll be offloaded in two seasons for 15 million.Bruno G is literally available for 10 million more.Forget the hot -o -meter.We need a shit -o -meter, says Fairway Far.Yeah, the hot -o -meter's blown up.I mean, the hot -o -meter.
Can I get the hot -o -meter on the screen, actually, just for a bit of a laugh, of what we thought we might be doing a month ago?Because we haven't seen the hot -o -meter for a very long time.And here it is.This is what we thought at the start of the summer.It was when Edison signed, yeah?Mateus Fernandes 8 out of 10, Anderson 7 out of 10, Ciumini 6 out of 10, Lewis Hall 6 out of 10, Alex Scott 4 out of 10, and Belayba was there because we thought they might go for it.
I mean, fucking hell.I mean, that's like your best ever category on a certain website, isn't it, compared to what we're getting now.It's incredible.It's incredible.And I wouldn't have looked at that a month ago and said it was perfect, but I look at it now and go, fucking hell, you know?Oh, dear.
I don't know.I don't know.You know what?Let's leave it to the Glynios rimmers to try and spin this positive, even though I don't think any of them ever mentioned Santos.You know, they'll be out there now doing their hipster videos, digging deep about what a hidden gem he is.And we've got a bargain for 50 million pounds.
And Chelsea have made a massive mistake.I don't think Chelsea make mistakes selling players, do they?I can't remember the last player Chelsea sold.that actually went and did really well somewhere.I don't know.Would you rather have Santos on Edison for 90 million or Tonali?
Definitely Tonali, Ernest.Do you see Ornstein's news about Bruno G?Yes, he's going to Arsenal.I think mainly he's going to try to do the Anderson job, says Tyler.I hope Edison fails his medical now, says Robert.Zio says, what's next?
Ndidi, Belayba, we're so dawn.Lord have mercy, this is a dark day in the chapter of United.And Santos isn't a bad player, but using 50 million on him is insane when we haven't got a marquee midfielder.What is it with us and Chelsea midfielders, says Sam.Maybe this is a pure swap for Gnaccio.It could be a financial loophole being exploited since all Ineos talks about is finances.
There's a few people arched in saying, do we think it's something to do with Chelsea owing his money for Gnaccio?You never know in this world of football.You never know.Imagine paying 90 million for Edison and Santos, which would have got Tenali, could have got Chumini for that, Fernandes for that, Gobsmacked as Acid, 2 -3 -3 -5.Look, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, we've got 20 ,000 people watching.And let's just say there's not 20 ,000 people that are over the moon.
There's a lot of confusion.There's a lot of anger.And there's a few people saying, I think it's a good deal.And respect to those people, you know, everybody's entitled to their opinion.I would say, let's hope that thisworks because if it doesn't, we're in big, big trouble.
Yeah, I don't like our board.I think they're absolutely fucking useless.I think this is just so left field, it's unbelievable.I also think we've overpaid big time, big, big time.I think that, you know, He's a prospect.I think there are things about him that are interesting.
Not going to lie about that.I like the fact that he gets on the ball a lot and hopefully we can do something with that.But he's a huge, he is a prospect.That's literally what he is.And I think that, you know, it's alright to be positive and see the positive in things.You know, I do completely understand why people want to do that.
But I do think these people are deluded.I do think that they do it to try and show, United, look at me being really positive.
Look at me being really positive.Friend, football friend.
I don't think people are talking the truth anymore.I think that they're blinded by the bullshit.And the facts don't lie.Nobody was talking about, no one was talking about this player.No one was talking about this player.No one was putting him in their top five.
I don't think people were putting him in their top 10.
We've just gone and given them £50 million for a player no one's been talking about.
You know, I remember doing videos in March and April about, you know, prospects for Manchester United to sign as a midfielder, and nobody was talking about him.
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Get started freeNobody mentioned him at all.I've never heard anybody go, whether it's Patrick Lynch, Emily Derry, whoever, you know, Ray, whoever.
I've never heard anybody do a chat going, you know what?instead of going for Elliot Anderson or Tonali, I actually think £50 million for Andre Santos from Chelsea would be the smartest bit of business we could ever do.Because he's knocking on the door of the Chelsea first team and you put him in that Man United midfield starting every week in the Champions League and the Premier League with Menu and we'll tear it up.I've never heard anybody say that and that's what's scary because that's what we're asking him to do.For 50 million quid, we're asking him to come into our midfield, play twice a week with Mainu and be very, very special.And I think he is a prospect who also as well, this is really important and I've left this to the end on purpose.
You've just bought another player like Edison that split the fan base.So if he doesn't hit the ground running and he makes mistakes, straight away people are going to go, he's shit.And that's really hard.really hot.I won't do that because I didn't like it with Agate, I didn't like it with Dorgu.I will always give a player a chance.
It's not their fault.But we were literally talking about it this morning.You know, if he has any bad games, Ineos have fucked him.You know, if he doesn't do very well, Ineos have fucked him.And this is the stupidity of our recruitment.They don't realise when you buy a strange player, that divides the fan base, you're setting them up to fail.
He's got to come in with an incredible mentality now that he's probably going to get, you know, a little bit of uncertainty.Not everybody's sure about him.You know, he should be coming to Man United with everybody clapping and cheering and want to buy a shirt with Santos on it.
He's got, he's coming to Man United at 22 with most of us going, why the fuck have we done this deal?Why have we done this deal?So he's got all the players
of being a Man United player and all the pressure of people going, I don't even know why we've done this deal.It's really harsh on him.It's really harsh.But, you know, it's not his fault.It's not his fault.I wish him all the best.
And, you know, Andy Mitton is saying that Man United like Santos for his amazing football brain and it will become Brazil's number six.He's a serious emerging talent and he's a player with a value likely to increase.Andy, Andy, Andy.I hope you're right, mate.I hope you're right.But everything you're saying there, why were we not in for him ahead of Mateus Fernandes then?
Why were we not in for him ahead of Tonali or Elliot Anderson?Why have we desperately gone for him a week after missing out on Mateus Fernandes?Why didn't we go for him in May?Why didn't we go for him in June?Why have we gone for him now?People can talk about him being an amazing emerging talent and his brilliant football brain and the next Brazil number six, but Why have we desperately pivoted towards him then because we didn't get what we wanted?
If he's so amazing, why wasn't he plan A, B or C?Why is he plan E, F or G?It's a desperation signing and, you know, hopefully it'll work out.But I think it's a dangerous signing as well.I really do.Look, it's a player that we can look at in pre -season.
Let's hope it works out.And, you know, I want to make it very, very clear.And I think I'm speaking for everybody here.We all want him to do well.It's not personal to the player.It's just shocking from the board.
Shocking from the board.Rodri had a year left on his contract, says Ashwin.With those 50 million gone, we can kiss the Ciumini deal goodbye.Even if Madrid decide to sell him, there is no way this ownership will pay for him, says Syndicate.What does this mean for Ciumini or Alex Scott?Because Santos is not even there.
player we could have got in the Premier League or Europe for that price.Not filling me with confidence, says Emily Derry.These positive fans don't understand the consistent mistakes our board has made.Can people open their eyes and accept our club as zero ambition?Buying subs over superstars.What is this club, says Zach.
Chelsea just announced Kenda as well.I mean, they did that last year, didn't they, Sam?I think there's two things that I'm worried about from this point.One, is there any money left to get a marquee signing?Because we've spent 90 and the budget was 150.So how do you buy an 80 million pound player now when you've spent 90 on two midfielders?
So is there money left to get a marquee signing?And secondly, who are Chelsea signing in their midfield with the money we've just given them?Because if Chelsea go and sign Adam Wharton, that's a joke.If Chelsea go and sign Alex Scott, I'm fucking fuming.So they're the two things that I'm asking now.Is there any money left for a marquee signing?
And what are Chelsea going to do with the money that we've just spent there?So we'll have to wait and see.Anyway, look, thank you so much everybody for tuning in.We have got an eight o 'clock show.Make sure you're subscribing to the channel.Bottom right hand corner, loads of reactions.
to come look um we've signed a player we've signed a player um and i've reacted to this live with you so you know it's difficult sometimes because there is no time there was no time to even gather my thoughts but my honest thoughts are we've overpaid for a player that Chelsea want rid of.We funded a rival.Let's see what they're going to do with that money.And is there any money left to actually get a midfielder that we need?And I think Ederson and Santos are massively underwhelming compared to what I thought we were going to do in May. I didn't think, if you'd said to me, two of the three midfielders would be Santos and Ederson, I'd have gone, really?I was sort of hoping for a João Gomes, Mateus Fernandes, Chiomini.
or an Anderson, a Scott and a, you know, Stiller.I really wasn't thinking Edison and Santos being two of the three.But there is still another spot.You know, there is still another spot.Right, I've got to go and have my dinner.Thank you so much.
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Get started freeWe're back at 8 o 'clock.Get your comments in if you didn't watch live.Make sure you subscribe.Smash a like on the video.And look, the one thing I will say, because people will not acknowledge this, my anger and frustration is at the embarrassment of how the club is being run.It is a fucking circus.
And today proves that.But what I will say is, The Athletic are saying that Andre Santos does not represent the marquee midfield signing for Man United.They want another midfielder.Well, hopefully that is a bit of positive news as well.But I support the player.I support the player, and I would urge everybody to support the player because it's going to be hard enough.
It's not the player's fault.We have to support the player.As for the board,I just don't know.Take care.I'll speak to you at eight.
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