Unplugged ft. Neena Gupta | Love life| Viv Richards | Masaba Gupta |Vadh 2 | Married Life| Panchayat

Do you ever feel that loving Vivian Richard was wrong?

I don't think it was wrong. I enjoyed it a lot back then.

Did he ever ask you to come to West Indies?

I think he did. I think he did. I don't even remember.

Was it love or casual? Like, you met, you had an attraction, it happened.

Go ask him.

I'll ask him.

Yeah, everyone is scared of him. Why do you ask me? Go ask him.

How do you define a man?

I've never met a man with balls.

The marriage you just had, was it in love?

This is a difficult question. Look, I don't know. I don't understand this love thing.

So, did you get married again?

I had to. Get married, everything will be fine. It's a very sad thing to say, but it's true.

In a 49-50 year old marriage, the marriage is a mature marriage, in which there is a story of sharing loneliness more than romance.

Oh God, what kind of questions are you asking?

Do people get possessive?

After getting married at the age of 49-50.

He's not possessive at all, which I don't like. How many times did you fall in love? at all which I don't like. And virgin. Is she still there? What's the difference? I think it was Subhash Ghai's picture. In which it was said that you were wearing a padded bra.

You had to dance.

I was very angry at that.

Can we say it like that?

So crass. Behind the vest. What's behind the vest? Even today they say that you are giving something in which you are not saying anything but you are saying everything. No, I'm saying that behind the veil is my heart.

What's the big deal?

I interview people many times, they say that money is not important. I don't work for money.

Money has been my protector, instead of a man. Money buys love also these days, sometimes.

Don't you feel like becoming weak in life? I hate it when people say strong woman, strong woman. The society ties age with clothes. And I'm sure you must have read a lot of comments. A lot of women have written comments.

They're jealous.

So do you think that in India, after a certain age, sexuality is seen as a sin?

Once in school, someone said, that teacher's boyfriend has come. So I got so hurt. Because for me, a teacher's boyfriend can't be.

She's clean. You know? I heard you too. That kissing makes you pregnant. Yes. Dr. Cuter came to our clinic. She said that old people have a lot of sex.

Old people have a lot of sex?

But not with their wives.

That's true.

What was the weirdest thing that happened to you?

Tailor, doctor. He used to touch me wrong. Very bad it was. I didn't have the courage to tell my mom not to send me to him again. I didn't tell anyone. Now I'm telling you.

Why is Badh special for you? Apart from the fact that you're his heroine.

I'm the heroine of Panchayat. I'm the heroine of Shiv Shastri Balbhawa. I'm the heroine of that too. Life in a Metro. What's your favourite song in this? Dil Ka Kya?

Haan Mera Dil

I like it a lot.

I like it a lot. How much more should I love you?

I like it a lot.

And there's a song in it called Qaide Se.

Dil Jala Ke Musura Ne

Ki Jo Adat Hui Hai Mujhe

Do you find Aditya Raghupur hot? Yeah, yeah, I find him hot. What kind of question is this?

I'm like, the old lady is crazy.

Often, we believe what we see on the Bollywood screen to be true. But today, I have a person with me me who has had more drama, more emotions, more twists in real life. This is the woman who had rebelled when the word rebellion was banned for women. She raised a child alone. At the age of 60, she came to the world and said, give me work again. I want to do better work.

He is the person who never stopped accepting his mistakes in front of the world. And a woman who gave her life to her conditions and always listened to her heart, going beyond right and wrong. She is the one who you see in the panchayat as Manju Devi, but when Manju becomes Mishra in the Wad, she tells you that you will do wrong, so we know how to answer. In short, there is simplicity and contradiction in one woman.

She is the mother of Nakul, our beloved Babli ji, and an artist who has said that age is just a number. Meena Gupta ji, welcome.

You have said so many things.

Your life is a book in itself. It belongs to everyone. But there are many pages that have been turned.

It belongs to everyone. When I was reading your life, I was constantly hearing about a powerful woman, a powerful

woman, a powerful woman.

And for a moment, I felt that I didn't want to be weak in life.

I was a very strong woman. I was a very strong woman. Did you ever feel like you were weak?

I am so weak I'll give you an example When I was a kid We were sent to the backyard with a bucket to get milk A buffalo used to come and milk the buffalo.

And there would be utensils for everyone. So I would go and keep my own bucket there. So many times someone would come from behind and move my bucket. I was so meek that I would come back home crying that someone had remove my bucket and move on So I feel every person somewhere is very weak

But when some people are in pain, they become brave Actually I was thinking the day before yesterday that I hate it when people say strong woman, strong woman Because I feel I am a very soft and weak woman But then I was thinking how strong I am So then I said, okay, when trouble comes, then I, I become different Otherwise no self-esteem, meek, coward,

can't drive, can't swim, you know what I mean. If someone drives fast, the car is in trouble. I can't do such adventures. But when trouble comes, there is no one as strong as me.

Learn to protect yourself.

Yes, because there was no one. The only man who protected me always was my father. Somebody from my building said a nasty thing to me. I came crying to my dad. He used to live with me in Bombay. He took revenge for me. No one else stood up for me. Nice. No one.

I used to say that he is a man in my life.

How do you define a man?

I have never met a man apart from my father never. That's sad. I've never met a man with balls. Sometimes I have more balls than him. I have read your whole life and I feel this way. But isn't it strange? A weak girl has become so strong.

Like I said in my opening...

Everyone is like that. Leave me alone. God has given me so much. Look at the poor women.

What happens to them? I felt like God gave me everything. Look at the poor women. What do they go through?

I made so many documentaries in my mind. I had been invited to a club. Only ladies were there. I was invited to speak. The first thing I said, I feel it's a curse to be a woman.

And especially a poor woman. Because they thought I would do something like this. Yes, we are the strongest. But you see their condition. You see poor woman's condition. You see all around. We have a hut down there.

Whatever work comes to our house, you see their condition. pad pati hai, humare ghar mein jo bhi kaam karne aati hai, wo unkiye haalat dekho aap. Bachche, kaiyon ke toh pati chale gaye, kaiyon ke pati drunkard hai, bachche paalti hai, kaam karti hai, teen teen bachche hai.

So, main toh kuch bhi nahi hoon. They are the strong women. Maybe this is the reason that in history, when we look back, we see that there were many wives of men in every religion. There were few examples of wives of women. There were more wives of men. And every religion gave permission

to take care of as many as you can.

They used to say that when there was war, many people died. So, there was a big problem. So, their widows problem. So basically to protect.

So a poor woman is a curse.

Yes.

Just imagine her life. I have seen.

I often interview people and they say money is not important.

I don't work for money.

Money is the most important, I will say.

You, who had 2000 kids, who didn't take money from anyone, lived a life of self-respect, raised a daughter, now you have a lot of money. But what is the value of money?

Especially, being a woman, a woman who is a mother and alone.

I think money is your protector. Money has been my protector instead of a man. I can do so many things to help my daughter, to help myself, to enjoy life, to eat well, to live well. Who doesn't want to eat well and live well? True. So money makes you do that. We were taught wrongly in our childhood. Money is not everything. Money buys love also these days sometimes.

Did you get love because of money?

I didn't look for it. Because of money. I didn't have that much money. No, that is for men. Money and power attracts other people

but they are

with women if a woman is moneyed say it's a daughter of a very rich man for her it's very difficult to find a man I have known at least four girls like

that I have known at least four girls like that.

Though they are not married yet. One is around 55.

But what is this? We see multiple options. We need perfection.

No, no. It is that we should have our own status.

Then while waiting, everyone gets married. And one more general perception that we have noticed, which is a stereotype, but I will mention it. We have noticed that girls usually marry a person who is a little older than them. Men are a little younger. Is this true?

Men don't see that they are younger than them. Men see many other things.

That they will get adjusted in the family.

Yes, they will get adjusted in the family.

That the relationship will be adjusted in the family. Yes, it will be adjusted in the family. Relationship with parents will be good. Yes. And that's why if we bring it above our own, then...

And virgin will be there.

Is it still there?

What has changed now? Where are we talking about? We are talking about India.

But now everything is so open.

Where? Where is it open?

Who says it is open? Now everyone is roaming around together. Who is roaming around? Now people are avoiding the world. Which world are you talking about? A lot has not changed in our country. In our Bazaar Sitara, people still put a palla on their head and touch their father-in-law's feet. What are you talking about?

You and I are a minority. We are not India. True. We wear nice clothes and roam around and say anything. That is not India. I am not saying this to make a statement. I have seen it. There was a relative of my father's. The girl got married in Delhi. The girl got married in Mumbai.

She lived in Kandipali. Her husband worked in a big financial company. She got married here. One day my father was here. He called the girl and the boy. The girl's parents came. My father and here, so he called the girl and the boy. The girl's parents came and my father and I sat down.

Why did he call us? The girl doesn't want to live there.

Why?

Because the girl believed in a God. She believed in Sai Baba. So she put a picture of Sai Baba in her bedroom. Just like we believe in someone, we all put pictures of whom we believe. Her mother-in-law said, you cannot put this picture because we believe in him,

you will put his picture. I told my niece, her mother-in-law said, you cannot put your family photograph on the bedside. It is today. So, I am not saying these things

that this will happen in the podcast. So India, if such a change happens, it will take a long time. Especially women's condition is not that.

Your father got married twice? Yes. It's not that. You sowed some seeds there as well. Although your father was the biggest inspiration in your life. When you needed him the most, he shifted from Delhi to Bombay. I would like to understand that transformation. What was it that he left everything for you? And as I said in the opening, when women were not allowed to speak, then he became the strongest shield with you in that rebellion.

Although I was most afraid of how to tell him. He was very much against it. He was shocked and he did not like it at all. Against it. But when I decided, he stood like a rock beside me. This is what parents should do. Your children are not important. You are important. But when I decided, stood like a rock beside me. This is what parents should do. Your children are not necessary, you will do what you say. But once they decide what we have to do,

then you have to stand like a shield.

Nowadays people run after image. There is a lot of PR on social media, they post their good things.

In your book and all the, you have a lot of PR on social media, you post good things.

You have talked very honestly in your book and all your interviews. Is being so honest ever scary?

Yes, yes, it's a very stupid thing to do sometimes. It's not good to be so honest.

Like when did you feel?

Many times. I suffered a lot from honesty. If you want to say something. I will tell you if I remember.

Did your children say, Mom, why did you have to say so much? Or did your friends say, Why do you make a fuss?

Yes, my friends always say, What was the need? I can't stay quiet. Masaba, my God, I am so scared of her. She says, Mom, why do you need to talk so much? Like that.

But why did you feel unfiltered? I mean, you were suppressed before. I'm named like that. Or you feel that you will live your life on your own terms. Like I came in the beginning and asked you not to ask anything. You said, I will say whatever I can't say. So this new touch that came, it came because you endured, listened, understood for a long time. Now it seems that no. Now zero tolerance?

No, no. It didn't come because I got success. When you get success, your self-esteem increases. If I get success, I can talk like this. When no one knows you, you can say anything, who will listen to me?

True.

If I wasn't successful today, you wouldn't have called me for the podcast.

100%

So you called me and I got confidence that now I can speak because someone will listen to me.

Yes.

Whether they agree or not. So all this comes from success.

I didn't say in the beginning of this podcast that you are looking very beautiful. Mane chahe na mane. To ye sab success se aata hai. Maine is podcast ki shurwaat mein kaha nahi ki aap bahut khubsurat lag rahi hai. But main aapko compliment kar rehta hoon ki aap bahut khubsurat lag rahi hai.

Thank you.

Aur kai baar aap jab tayyaar ho kar aati hai to aap bahut khubsurat lagti hai. Lekin samajh mein sab kuch stereotype hai. that society ties age with clothes. And I'm sure you must have read a lot of comments about what you are wearing at this age. I was looking at the bed yesterday. Many women wrote about it.

They are jealous. They want to wear it the same way, but they can't.

So, the women or men who tie their character with clothes. What you are wearing.

Not just that, all of them. Mostly. How do you look at the character through the clothes. What you are wearing. Not just that, everything. Yes. Mostly.

How do you look at them?

It happens, they put a...

Nail.

No, this.

So that you don't see anything on the side.

Yes, so I walk like this. I don't look here.

And why was this transformation happening? Or were you always like this?

I am saying that I am like this. From the beginning. My DNA is like this.

But

now I can speak openly. Earlier I couldn't speak. I spoke once and the repercussion was very bad. So, it was a mess. Like, I had just come and a director said something very bad in front of everyone.

Your role was cut.

No, no, no. Nothing. Because he was trying to impress me. He was like that only. He was a womanizer. Usko laga main nahi hoon to yeh toh aayi haath ka khel hai. Toh main nahi pat rahi thi. Main bhot nahi thi. Badi film mein chota sa role karne gayi thi. Agra mein gayi thi. And sabke saamne usne mujhe bhot gandi baat gahi. Bahot gusaya mujhe. I went to Agra and he said something very bad to me in front of everyone I was very angry, what should I do?

Who will listen to me? He was a big director So I said, at that time magazines used to come, Stardust, Cinebleach At that time there was no social media So I took his name and told him about it It was foolishness No one was going to guide me That son, don't do this

He said all nonsense and dirtier, dirtier things About me after that So no one listened to me Everyone listened to him because he was more powerful. He was more known. I was not known.

Phir meko kisi ne bataya, baby chup raho. Jitta tum bologi, utna udar se koi aur bolega. Toh baat khatam hi nahi hoegi.

Kyon apne aap pe kichad uchha rahe ho? But it's not wrong that a woman wants to socialize you. And you are raising your voice and saying that you were a fool for saying that.

Yes, I say that. Because what did I get from that? Tell me. What did I get from saying that? I think about it today.

Maybe they were afraid to hitting on a new girl.

No, no, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. They will hit on the one who they think is vulnerable. Who has just come. Who has come from a small city.

Who is in a crisis in life.

Leave the crisis, you know. The girls, I would like to say, this is good to say, if somebody's life can change because of this. We come from small cities. I came from Delhi, but I came from a small city type house. When we come, we feel like someone said, Neena you are looking so beautiful. You are so beautiful and you are perfect to go in the film line. Let me introduce you to someone.

They took me to introduce. She said, wow you are so beautiful, beautiful, such a good body and all that. These girls including me, you believe it. They do it for other reasons. But we believe it. The self-esteem of many girls is so low

that if someone says that you love me and you are very attracted to me so we are thankful for that we are thankful that oh he finds me so attractive why that's how we've been brought up thankful girls are always thankful is thankful. If someone is watching this and they are not and if someone is sad then I am sorry. But

what I have seen is we are thankful that you have liked us. Mothers are thankful that their daughter got a good boy.

This is what we hear. Find a boy, find good boy. This is what we hear. Find a boy. I will offer prasad to God that my daughter will find a good boy.

On the 16th of Monday.

Yes, on the 16th of Monday.

You will find a good husband.

Did you see my dialogue? I am yours, you are mine. I say that. She is crying at the farewell. I say, you fast on 16th and 16th, you get married. And if you get married, why are you crying at the farewell?

Like that.

So why do women cry? First find it, then why do you cry later?

You are leaving your home. I don't know, in a new house, in a new house In a new bedroom In a new in-laws

I understand in a new home The lovers who are excited to get married

They also cry They will cry more At least the parents must have seen something You were blind in love and kept walking Nice

Now whatever is in your destiny I had asked a question about my father My father was not with us.

We used to go to Nainital during summer holidays. When we had school holidays. So, my father was working. He might have to go somewhere else. So, he was not with us. But my mother was a very good mother and father. Educated double MA, Sanskrit and

political science. If I think about it now, if something happened inside, then it happened, but I don't feel anything that because of that I am like this today. I say that practically speaking, we are a lot, I think 90% our DNA, which is from parents or grandparents, which we are made of As we think So my father was very practical My mother was very idealistic My mother suffered because of her extreme idealism My father was very practical

That's why he adjusted He used to come and stay with me. He used to take care of my entire house. He used to take care of my Sahaba. My mother suffered a lot because she was idealistic. I got the best of both of them.

My brother got the worst of both of them. He suffered. So this is how I feel it matters a lot.

So like your mother was both a mother and a father, you were both a mother and a father of your child. What was the difference between you as a mother and your mother?

I didn't have a husband who had married twice. I didn't have a husband husband which was a great thing at that time

because

there was no pressure there was no pain that someone married again but I had a child with a married woman that was a wrong thing to do

if you say practically speaking but who listens in youth to do if you say practically speaking.

But, that I need work. Usually people are very hesitant. I heard a story about Bachchan Sahib that one day he decided to go to Yashji's house and asked for work. When you put up that post, what was in your mind? I mean, were you scared? Were you anxious?

It's nothing. All this was done by the media.

Was it fake?

It wasn't fake. I did it. And there was a reason behind it. And after that I didn't get any work. Nothing. Only people used to come and say,

Ma'am you are so brave, you can say. A lot of people liked it. I got married a few years before that. My husband is from Delhi So the press and media assumed that I have gone to Delhi to live I don't want to work now

I stopped getting work So I used to think why? So people used to meet me and ask me when did you come to Bombay? I said I live here only. So one day I went to a director's house for a project His assistant came and she was coming in with me

She said hi, when did you come to Bombay? I got so angry, I got so angry I came home, I was angry, I should never post in anger Anger, frustration, and I realized why I was not getting work That's why I was not getting work, so I wrote that As soon as I wrote, I had 11,000 followers at that time

I didn't even know how to do Instagram As soon as I wrote and posted, I was scared that Musaba will kill me. Mummy, are you mad? So? Now I don't have to delete it. Then Musaba's emotional message came and people's message, message, oh! I didn't get the work.

You got a lot of attention.

I got attention. I didn't get the work. You got a lot of attention. I got attention. I didn't get the job. How did I get the job? After the congratulations.

That was amazing.

That changed everything.

I will ask questions on that too. But you shocked me with the congratulations. Everything is right. But I was more shocked to see you in the panchayat. Because I had not imagined a glamorous, bold, and unadorned Neena Gupta in a woman wearing a desi gown.

When I saw her, I said, either she had some connection that she saw very closely, which she removed. Or she had a desire inside that this is the right opportunity. Or it was her childhood life that she removed. How did you relate to Manju Devi? Because she is not Neena Gupta.

No, listen to me. If I, Neena Gupta, wear shorts in my real life, I feel hot, I wear shorts. Or I wear a spaghetti strap dress, it means that I am not an actor.

Amazing.

Actor means that you can do any bloody role.

That's true. But sometimes when actors who have not lived that life come, it seems like they are trying. You were living that. This is the difference.

So I am a good actor. Is equal to I am a good actor.

Is the only reason or you have lived near villages?

No, no.

I am not saying I have lived lived near a village or a village. I have lived in Raigarpura, Karol Bagh, Devnagar, Bazar Sitaram. So, this is not a novelty for me. This is not foreign for me. Doing Panchayat, doing Wudh, they are not foreign. But in our country, we have this mentality Panchayat karna, vad karna, they are not foreign. But humare yaha yeh hota hai, humara yeh mentality hai

ki jaisi main real life mein aur khaaskar main post karti hu aise aise kapron mein toh yeh toh kabhi woh kari nahi paayegi. Are bhai main actor hoon, mera real life ka on your acting? Yes, a lot.

I lost a lot in life because of my real life decisions.

Because in real life, you become strong. You give birth to such a child. Then you start getting strong women roles. So, at that time, there was a lot of typecast. I did Ketki in the beginning. After that, I became a strong woman. After that, I did it together.

So, I started getting comedy roles. My career ended after 7 years. I never thought I would become a heroine. Girish Karnad said that I would never become a heroine. Which was a fact. So, what I would like to say.

You became a heroine in Badhaiyon. So, what I would like to say You are a heroine in Metro Indino. Yes, I am a heroine in that too. But when I was young, I used to do something else. But no problem, I came.

We were talking about casting couch in the past. In the 80s, 90s when you were acting in the past and today. You said nothing has changed in India. It's the same India. So is the casting couch the same as it was in the 80s and 90s? Or has the method changed?

No, no. It's not the same today. There's a lot of change. I'm not saying that nothing has changed. I'm saying that only a few people have changed. The rest of you who are talking. The people who are in India,

out of them, maybe 3% has changed. The rest of the people haven't changed. Where you are talking about casting couch, there it has become very clean.

Are new girls safe in the industry today?

They are not safe at all, but now, educated girls come, when a little smart girl comes, then they understand that, now tell me one thing, someone is calling me to meet them in the evening in the hotel Why am I going? I am a fool. I should take someone along.

So, the smart girls understand and those who want to compromise, they also know and they are not ashamed of it I want to sleep with you for work, it is their decision but they don't know that you don't get work by sleeping with somebody they will maybe give you a small role here and there. Simple. We didn't understand it then. Do you think new girls are smart enough? Not all of them.

When Me Too campaign was running, many girls came and talked about it. Now in the US, there is a discussion about absent file. It's all over social media.

Amazing.

Do you think...

It's like...

What surprised you the most? I was surprised to hear about Bill Gates.

I was surprised to hear about Bill Gates. I was surprised to hear about everyone. There are some ladies' names in it. I was surprised to hear that too.

It's Meera Nair's name.

I'm like, how did he run such a big business?

It seems like the richest people in the world are left out. Everyone is in this. And because of this terror, This is life I remember a movie was made a Bollywood movie, there was a dialogue that don't remove this filth

it is like a drain, till it is covered

it is better

but how surprising was it for you?

I am a big fan of Sunil Grover. Everyone is. I am a big fan. He was giving an interview and he was saying very genuinely that forget about the bad things. Everyone is good.

You are good. Work. Enjoy. I was very impressed. And I said, Why hate somebody? Why say I don't like her? I don't like him?

He does dirty work. Do your work. Wherever there is dirt, get rid of it. Either you have so much that you can clean it. If you don't have so much strength, then don't say anything.

So, neither laugh nor show teeth.

Yes, neither laugh nor show teeth. That's right.

Do your work. Or else, get hurt. I'll tell you how to get hurt. This is a very good example. I was doing a serial, I don't remember the name, many years ago. We used to have a lot of night shoots. After the night shoot, some people come in trains from the station, have tea, have breakfast and go home. We had a sound recordist. So he came after the night shoot, he asked night shoot at the railway station and asked for tea.

So the tea was written there that this much tea for this much money I mean it was written there, this much liter and whatever is written

Cutting tea, full tea

No, apart from cutting, it would be this much It was written there He asked for tea, so he gave him less tea He gave him this much tea So he said, you have written this, so I gave you less tea. He said, go, what nonsense, he did it like this.

He fought for five years in the court about this guy.

This is also a trick.

That is also a trick.

What to do?

I mean, whoever thinks…

Why did you give two cups of tea less?

Yes, it's a matter of principle.

Wrong is wrong.

So either I clean all the dirt that is here, or I clean myself and do my work.

Have you ever had any such tantrum in your life that you are doing some revolution, you are going out and then you are applying it.

Many times I said I will sue him, Sneha, I will sue him. He said I will sue him. He explained to me. He was a good friend. He explained to me. Baby, keep quiet. In a few days, you will forget everything.

First of all, we Indians have a very weak memory. We forget everything. It's true. We forget everything.

No, it's a big thing. Otherwise, you don't move forward in life. If I think about it, I would have been in the court. Where would I get the money? Who would work?

When I saw Badhai for the first time, I... Because the film was such that it was making you imagine. So I imagined that if something like this happens somewhere around the house, would I have reacted differently to Aishwan? When you have a subject, this film has changed your career. As an actress, you were superb.

You were the heroine of this film, you were the life of this film. It was fun. But this topic has been a topic of shame, if seen as a society. So do you think that in India, after an age, sexuality is seen as a sin? Or did you feel any change after that film?

I don't know if there felt any change or not. But it's not a sin. It's not a sin. It's not possible. I was in my house in Karol Bagh. There was one bedroom. I mean, there were two bedrooms. We all slept in one bedroom.

In a double bed, there was my parents. And on both sides, in four beds, there was me and my brother. bedroom One in double bed and two in 4 bed me and my brother we never saw our parents sleeping together you know what I mean

so like once in school someone said that teacher has a boyfriend so I got so hurt because teacher can't have a boyfriend nahi ho sakta.

She's clean. You know we had these notions of sex in our head my god.

Mere ko jab pehli baar pe aap kisi ne propose kiya toh maine usko jawab diya tha tum se kaise pyaar ho sakta hai? Pyaar toh papa, ummi bhai se hota hai. I was in class 7th, I think. I was in 6th or 7th. I gave my answer. He hugged my cheek and said, okay. When I gave my answer, he asked me, literally, do you still love your parents and brother?

Like I heard from you too, that kissing makes you pregnant.

Yes, yes.

We used to think, all the girls in my class used to think like that. There was this film, in school. There was a film, Pyaar Kiye Ja.

Hmm.

Right?

How we used to talk while eating, Pyaar Kiye Ja. That love, with words, we used to think about what was going on in our mind Because society was like that

I mean, when we saw the border for the first time When the song came, I said, let's go Get out

Yeah, it's like that

When we made Aashik, we were crazy When I interviewed Imran Hashmi I told him, you have I know. Yeah, yeah. But this film, ma'am, because there was a very good scene in it, that Aishwarya Ma'am comes and she doesn't look at you.

Did you ever recall a scene in your personal life when you were making this movie?

Because it's a very epic scene, that your own child is not looking at you. So when you were making the film, I'm sure because your memories were very bad, you were not able movie? Because it's a very epic scene. That your own child is not making eye contact with you. So when you were doing this film, I'm sure because memories are a very bad thing. It hits you. Ignorance hits you.

The taunts of the society hit you. And in this film, all the things were the same that could have been changed. So has anything changed during this film?

Or have you moved on so much? I move on a lot. Someone was asking me yesterday, do you forgive and forget? I said, no, I never forgive. I never forget. But I move on.

Beautiful.

How can you forgive and forget if somebody has done wrong to you? I remember the small things.

So, do you remember the people who hurt you?

100 percent. You face them. the person who hurt you? 100%

What do you do when he is in front of you?

I just walk away.

You didn't forgive him?

Like the director you mentioned, many people scolded you.

He is dead now.

He is no more.

And many other people, I am sure, are alive.

The person who did wrong to me, he is still alive. I have done a film with him where he played my father-in-law. You know I've done it. I worked with him. I'll never forgive because I lost this this this this because of that but I move on. I had to face him today because I won't abuse him.

Nobody for me. So I move on.

Someone has said it very well that the biggest punishment is that you don't exist for me.

That is the biggest punishment.

That you don't matter. It doesn't matter if you exist or not. In your film, Gajraj ji, you had a good chemistry with him. You should come in more films.

God knows. No, we won't. Me and Gawaljit didn't come after Saans. The strong impact that has, he can't role that can think for us. Whenever I and Gajraj meet, we say, when will we work together again?

But this is also a very good thing, because after a certain age, heroines don't get such roles or such strong roles are not written. In this film, you were the two leads. Ayushman is a good actor, a great actor. But Ayushman was supporting you. In this film, you were the two main characters. And there was a subject,

because in our society, after a certain age, love is considered sacred.

Yeah.

Now you are old, now you should look towards purity. Which is not the reality. Because I had interviewed a sexologist. She said that old people have a lot of sex. She literally said that. Dr. Cutress came to our show.

We interviewed Seema Anand.

But they don't have sex with their wives.

Is that true?

So old people have sex but only with their wives?

I have seen it a few times.

In men or women?

In men. Women are off. Or at least they think they are off.

But they do it with women. So she must be someone's wife. So she must be ditching too.

Yes, this is very interesting. Because I said in an interview that men cheat more than women. Someone wrote in the comment that madam, they cheat with women only.

Yes, exactly. That was my point.

I said, I am sorry. I said it wrong.

When people say that boys are wrong, I say, but the one I am with… She is also a girl. And I am sure she knows.

Yes, of course. I don't know such women who do it.

That's why I don't know such women who do this. That's why I don't know.

But when we used to go to Delhi University in buses, the most painful thing was to touch the elderly. The most painful. And that was very horrible.

In fact, when I worked for an NGO, we used to work with children. We had counselled about 100 children, whom we had spoken to. Because a child said that he was being sexually abused. So we started asking the rest of the children about good touch and bad touch. So we realised that people do it in families too.

Yes. In the film Miranayar, the same film by Meera Nair, right? The one that the girl does in the family. Which film was it? Meera Nair's? It was Meera Nair's, right?

I'm missing it.

But I've seen this a lot in real life. Because when I saw all the other films…

There was Shefali in which… I don't remember the name. Uncle does it in that film. The film with Alia's film. No, no. Older than that. There was one on the highway. There was one on the highway and another one. It was very good.

Everyone is getting married there. There is a wedding atmosphere. A little girl. I will tell you when I remember.

It was the same in Epstein File. Little girls. But how do people do it in the family? I couldn't get out of this thought process that you have a granddaughter, you have a grandson, you have a niece, or a niece is also with boys. And I myself have counseled many children, good touch and bad touch, and parents keep quiet.

That no, no, it's a family matter.

So when, I have written in my book also, when I used to go to my tailor for the measurement, he used to touch me wrongly. Why didn't I go and tell my mother? I used to get so scared, so angry and so much pain. I didn't have the courage to tell my mom not to send me to her again. Or the doctor. We get... I don't know what happens to girls. Why didn't I tell my mom?

Maybe my mom was not my friend.

So, do you believe that every girl is treated badly?

In our time, there were many such girls. All my friends who used to go to college or school with us. Now I don't know about the times.

What was the weirdest thing that happened to you?

This tailor, doctor.

Most unexpected.

Very bad it was.

My brother took me to his housearol Bagh near our house. I had a sore throat. And he had a friend, a father or something, a doctor. And he was sitting out and he misbehaved with me. I didn't tell anyone. Now I am telling.

It was like, it is horrible.

But is it after a certain age or is it common now?

It depends on the environment. What type of upbringing you have. Today, Masaba can tell me everything. I can tell Masaba now. Maybe I was not as open to my mother. It was a society like this.

They are the last people to tell us. They are the last people to tell us. When everything is in chaos, we will know. The rest will know as they come.

Nowadays, we tell our friends too. When I told my friend, you must have read, first time I was going to see with my first boyfriend a film. I told my friends, who were two or four friends of mine who lived behind the house.

They went and told my mother. My mother sent my brother to college. I was in class, my brother was speaking. I went, mom is calling me. Mom is very angry. I went. I said, no, I am not going. So I didn't go. He was waiting there. He didn't even have a mobile.

So I couldn't even tell my friends.

He was also trying to increase his number.

No, he was jealous. She was going to watch a movie with her boyfriend.

I once did a podcast with a writer, Seema Anand. She must be in late 60s. She talks about sex and lust. She was sharing her experience of how people approach. She told me that a 15 year old girl approached her.

Really? Where?

And there was a lot of controversy on social media.

But why did she tell?

Because she talks about sex, she is a little attractive.

But why did she tell about sex, she is a little attractive. But why did you tell me about your personal life?

There was a discussion going on, a topic was going on. In that discussion, at what age do people tease more. So they said that the new generation is coming in the new generation. I mean, it's very disappointing that the mobile generation has become so open. That now they also approach. So I asked them who teased the least at that age.

So she said a 15 year old guy. Wow. She must be very attractive. She is but is it wow? Seriously wow?

I don't know.

I don't know it's she or it's wow.

I don't know.

I'm learning new things every day.

What was the most shocking thing you learnt when you became strong and said I want to explore everything. What do you want to explore everything. What to explore? You are living life openly now. Share it with your daughter.

You are not living it yet.

No. And can I tell you one thing? I have not seen a person like this in my life. Who has lived life on his or her own terms. No one around me. I have accepted what God has given me.

And I am going with that. I didn't want to live such a life. I had asked Lata ji. Did you hear? That in next birth you should be Lata ji? She said no. And you must be thinking that everyone has got a life like Lata ji.

You don't know. What happens inside a person, you don't know. What is going on behind your layers, you can't know about me, I can't know about you.

So if Neena Gupta had to go somewhere else and fix her life, where would she go?

She wouldn't have come into acting. My mother wanted me to become an IAS. If she had become one, it would have been better.

Nice. Life in a Metro, ma'am, is focused on incompleteness and extramarital affairs. Neena Gupta keeps saying, don't do extramarital affairs. Did you enjoy the film? I enjoyed watching you. You were looking beautiful.

There were beautiful songs in this film.

Anurag Basu is great. It is... See, I enjoyed every moment of shooting. Anurag Basu is great. It is... See...

I enjoyed every moment of shooting. People are also going to enjoy your work.

So, I had a great time because he's so good.

He improvises on the spot. He's thinking.

Something changes every day. So So I really enjoyed working.

What's your favorite song?

Dil Ka Kya? I like it a lot.

How much more should I love you?

Yes, I love you so much.

I love you so much.

I like it a lot. And there you so much. I love you so much.

And there is a song in it called Kaide Se.

Oh!

I love it. I wish I had told Anurag that the music is a little less in it. I want to hear the words empty.

You are lost again. Now it seems that love has been made with Kaide.

I have fallen in love with Kayde. I fell in love with Kayde. The habit of burning the heart and smiling. Now it feels like I fell in love with Kayde.

The songs were very beautiful.

Not just the songs, the tracks were also very good. Sir Pankaj and Konkana's tracks were good.

How good it was.

Beautiful. Your party great. Beautiful.

Your party was really good.

Yes, it was really good.

I was watching the promotion of that movie. You were very happy. You were enjoying it.

I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. Working in a movie. Mostly, I am doing movies where I am enjoying my work.

So, the new kids who were with you, you were the only one with them, maximum people were with you, because you were well-dressed, you were your own groom, you were happy. Did anyone ever say to you,

that ma'am, I want to take the color of your life from you?

I didn't say it in that language, but you see, I am right now also working for a series,

comedy. I didn't say it in English but you see I'm right now also working for a series

comedy. I have a lot of youngsters, there are a lot of young youngsters in my age. They become so close to me. They tell me about their secrets, they tell me about their life, they ask me things. Because they feel secure? I think I'm very friendly. Because they

feel secure? I think so. That ma'am can understand,

the rest of them can't.

All youngsters become my friends. They don't become older.

They must be looking at you

as if you're a crazy woman.

I know.

Someone wrote to me on Twitter asking me to ask Rekha how she dresses. How does Neena dress. So I said, brother, there are two different people and how can you judge a person?

Maybe the person who looks decent is a Kandi, and such a person is decent. Just judging a person by their clothes.

So when I went to give my book to Gulzar Sahib, when Covid was going on, you know? So I went to give my book to Gulzar Sahib, my autobiography. So obviously he opened the gate and stayed away from the gate. I gave it to him from outside the gate and came like this because of Covid and he was older.

I left the house wearing my shorts and t-shirt and I went and gave it to him. Oh, so much commotion, then I cried one day. At this age, you are roaming around wearing underwear. aur main jaake de aayi. Arre itna hangama, phir maine ek din...

Is umar mein kacche pehne goom rahi hai.

Nahi nahi, nahi nahi. Ki Gulzar sahab ke saamne phir maine bataya saare in lallu logon ko main aur Gulzar sahab mujhe tennis mein initiate kiya tha Gulzar sahib ne. Gulzar sahib rosh subah mujhe saare che ghar se pick up karte the aur hum tennis academy me jaate the. Maine aur Gulzar sahib ne ek dusro ko shorts me hi sabse zyada dekha hai. Ab bolo. Bebhoof.

Nice.

Matlab aadhar sammaan idhar se hai na. Problem bhi hai.

Aadhar sammaan kapdon se nahi hai na. Respect is not about clothes. It's the same in our profession. Everyone wants you to be serious all day. Seriousness in work is not important. You just be like this, always.

Yes.

And people are very scared of such people. Who sit like this in the shooting. Going separately. We chat, have fun. I, Raghuveer Yadav sing songs.

Why not? I'm sure you must have remembered 4-5 people who keep sitting like this.

Yes, yes. I remember them and say them.

Did anyone wish you a good morning?

No, I didn't. I didn't even answer.

Nice.

Ma'am, everyone loves Manju Mishra, everyone loves Manju Devi, but when Manju Mishra comes, people get scared. Wad is the film that you have come to promote. A woman who is weak and powerful, who is seen in the form of Kali, who is seen in the form of Sadharan. Why is Wad special for you? Apart from this fact that you are her heroine.

Should we talk about the first Wad or the second one?

Let's talk about both.

So when I did the first Wad, it was so beautifully done. It starts like a normal family life. And also, the moments were very good. I like to act those moments. Where there is no speaking.

Where the director works in silence and music. When my husband commits suicide, I told him not to kill even a mouse. We are such religious people in that film, in the first murder. I told him not to kill even an onion, garlic, or a mouse. And he killed someone. After that, the way he wiped, the way I stood,

all those silences, that was so beautiful. That is what I enjoy. It's fun to work. So, working with Jaspal, working with Sanjay, it's a lot of fun.

Sanjay Mishra, tell us how did you enjoy it? When he came to our podcast, he said, Where are you? Get some chillies, get some chutney, we'll eat it on the phone.

He's like that. We sang a song. We shot in Gwalior first. We went to a tapdi and ate puri aloo and sang a song. It's fun. It's fun working with him. So when the second part arrives, are you excited?

I'm always scared when it is about to release.

There was another scene in this, that the son is separated from his parents. Which is a bitter truth of today's society. That parents who especially take property in their children's name, they spend days in the school. Do you feel scared seeing all this?

I say this because, brother, there should be some money. Because if I, it is not necessary that my children or people close to me, if I get very sick,

what happens is, when a person is sick for a long time, then the people who see you also get tired. You know, how much they have their own families. So I say, let's have so much money that we will keep a nurse. It's being practical. You know, I don't expect that all people will take care of me.

If I don't have touchwood, it's good. But you need that support of money.

You fell in love with one of the greatest of all time. I cover cricket a lot. And the person you loved is our hero. He is an icon. We get surprised to see him. How a person used to play in the 80s and 90s, without wearing a helmet, how did he play?

That swag. So you loved him because I am not surprised or surprised about it. Because that person had so much swag. And even today in world cricket, people consider him the greatest living legend. Although we are seeing Virat, Rohit, everyone, despite that. So love because I can understand that he was attracted to him. But now when you are at this age,

do you ever feel that loving Vivian Richard was wrong? Or that giving birth to a child was wrong?

I don't think it's wrong. I always think, why do we think that what I did was wrong? I enjoyed it a lot at that time. Their support, the presence of Masaba. Masaba is still the most important in my life. One thing I will definitely say is that it was very difficult to take care of a child alone.

And I will say that no one should do this.

I am asking about this only. Loving and... It is not right for a child. Yes, loving and taking care of a child was your choice. But in that choice, when the child must have suffered. I am sure a lot of time must have come while going to school.

No, so my friend, a very close friend of mine told me, Neena you are not doing the right thing. Don't do this because it will not be good for the child. And for you also. Which was true. But as I was saying, at that time,

we are blinded by love. Where do you listen to it? Where do you think? Who listens to their parents at that time?

Was it your and Vivian's decision to have a baby or just yours?

No, it was mine. I wanted to have a baby. Then I asked him, are you okay if I give birth? He said, yeah.

Was he comfortable? Because he was already married, Vivian Richards. Was he comfortable that you tell the world that this is his child?

Yeah.

He had no issues with it? No. Yeah. Yeah. No.

Okay. and go to West Indies or they would have left their work and come here. It was not possible.

Did they ever ask you to come to West Indies?

Maybe they did. Maybe they did. I don't even remember. It's been so many years. But I couldn't go. And neither could they come.

Well practical. But there was one thing in this that when Musaba was born, you had a lot of financial problems, money problems. And you didn't take money from him. Although Vivek Richards must have been one of the richest cricketers in the world at that time. There would be no shortage of money.

This respect is also giving me and creating a question that you didn't marry him. I understood. Although I didn't understand why I didn't marry him. I understand. Although I don't understand why you didn't marry him. He was already married. How could I marry him? But many people get married again. You got married again. Your husband got married again.

With a divorce.

So if he was in love, he could have been in that case too.

No, I didn't push him because I didn't want to go there.

I am saying that this was a choice. But this money part, because he had a child, he had a responsibility as a father, why did you refuse to take financial help?

I didn't feel like it.

And then you have been a paparazzo all your life, you listened to the directors,

listened to their taunts.

But I was so proud of myself.

We all are proud of you.

I was very hesitant to ask my parents for money. I never asked. They gave me whatever they could. Because they were against me becoming an actor and coming to Bombay. They used to think that this is not a good job. So, if I came against their will, how can I ask them for money?

Did Vivian Richard offer you money? To take help from me?

We never had such a conversation because I never asked for it.

Was it love or casual? Like you met, it was an attraction, it happened.

Now go and ask him.

I wish you go and ask him.

I will do it, I will get it. I am traveling a lot these days. Please ask him. I will definitely ask him. Everyone is afraid of him, why do you ask me? Go and ask him. I will definitely ask him. Everyone is afraid to ask him. Why do you ask me? I will meet him. Go ask him.

You guys.

What was your version?

I think we were in love.

So you guys spent good time. How much time did you spend together?

This is a long story. But I will tell you in short. We spent very little time. But whatever we spent, we spent a beautiful time.

Beautiful. One of your friends, Satish ji, is no more. He was a wonderful artist. We all like his work. Now, in this age, when you hear his proposal, where he said, you marry me.

He must have a black child.

He must have a black child, so he said, it's my child.

He is so cute.

Do you think if you had said yes, life would have been easier?

I would never say yes. I had not those kind of feelings for him. Why would I marry him? I am spoiling his life also.

So, the marriage you just had, was it in love?

This is a difficult question. So, the marriage you just got married to, is it in love?

This is a very difficult question.

Because I was looking at it as a mature marriage. When I was understanding that it is a mature marriage.

I will write another book for that. Look, I don't know, I don't understand this love. I only understand love from my child. And I don't understand any other love only understand love from my child. And I don't understand any love. So you got married again?

It was necessary.

How?

A lot. To show the society? Or for your old age?

Ummm...

You know... If we want to live in this society... Hmm... Then we have to follow some rules of the society. I have learned this from my mistakes. Either you go and live in an island, you can live with whoever you want. Jiske saath jaise marji reh lo. Yaha pe kya hai na, jo main sochte hoon, baaki log waisa nahi sochte na. Toh fir mere ko, main kahin jaati hoon toh mujhe ajeeb se drishti se dekha jaata hai.

Toh mere ko enjoyment nahi ho, main comfortable nahi feel karte hai.

Shadi kar lo, sab theek ho jata hai. Everything will be fine. So if you put a nuptial chain, even if everything is going wrong inside, you are not living together, there is no love, but the society feels that you are perfect now.

Absolutely. It's a very sad thing to say, but it's true.

So you got married just because...

Not just because anyone gets married. You make me forget everything. No, no. I got married. There can be many reasons for that. But what I'm saying is...

This was a big reason.

No, this was not a big reason either. I'm saying that this is important. But it's not important that you marry anyone for this reason.

Okay.

But this is also important. Okay. okay but he's a really a cookie up single rating a is so much me as a woman what the cleaver tea

shoddy carnage a key to my sabha limit the top, so you said get married first time? Yes, maybe in my back of my mind I was thinking like that. No, no, get married then.

Get married then. Whereas now a days time has changed, these girls are different. Boys and girls think differently.

Masaba is happily married, now you have become a grandmother. Congratulations to you.

Thank you.

But that live-in culture which you had refused to the Masaba, despite the fact that you had revolutionized a lot in your youth, you took your own stand, but you also went on the old orthodox pattern that no, no, get married, this is how the society works. What is your take on that today?

Today my take is that I don't know what to say to youngsters. I don't understand. And I, actually most of my life, I have lived alone. I have lived alone for so many years. I still live alone. He lives in the mountains and I live in Bombay.

I can't go to Delhi or the mountains because I am working here. He loves going to the mountains. We live separately.

I think you have been with him more during Covid.

Yes, we have been together during Covid.

In the mountains.

In the mountains. But I don't know what to say. Girls get married late. I don't want to get married. The girls around me, they want to work. Then they won't get married. When they get older,

then they won't get young people to marry. Then they will have an affair with a married man, then there will be a fight. I can't see what to say.

Okay, if the age of boys increases, they get girls. If the age of girls increases, they don't get boys. It's a very rare option. You can give a few examples, Priyanka Chopra got married, a few other actresses got married.

I am talking about the same Shakti. She is very powerful. or a couple of actresses. I am talking about the same power. If you have power, you get love.

No, no. There is one more important thing. Women cannot have children after a certain age. If women could have children by the age of 70, then this problem would not have arisen.

But there are ways.

There are ways to reach 70. A man of 70 years birth to a child, this problem would not have arisen. But there are ways to do it. There are ways to get to 70. A 70 year old man can give birth to a child.

But if you have done surgery in women, if you have done IVF, then...

It is very difficult. You know how expensive all that is.

You have become cheap. I have done the same podcast.

It doesn't work.

They are my friend. You tell me if I need anyone around me. I am your friend.

I have heard that it is not allowed in India. It's very tough. In India, Sarogesi is allowed.

You will have to bring a woman from your family. Really? Earlier, there were Sarogesi agencies where women were brought. Now you will need someone from your family who is ready to take care of you.

Oh. You will need someone in your family, a woman who is ready for you. They changed this rule.

But these are very rare things, commonly speaking. A man, they used to say, saatha so paatha. Remember? They used to say saatha so paatha. A man of 60 years is a solid man. They don't say saathi so paathi.

So the maximum marriage options for girls are 22-28-30 years.

Yes.

Show as much tantrums as you want, then the tantrums are over.

Yes, then it's over.

Girls can show it later.

After that your percentage decreases. First you want 100%, then you want 70%, then you want 50% if it suits me.

Finally, you get a boy. Finally, you'll get a boy.

Finally, I'll get a boy. That's how it is.

Does your husband love you? Ask him. What do you think?

I'll give you his number. Call him and ask.

I'll call him. One day I'll interview him in Pahar.

Why do you ask me such questions? Go and ask everyone.

I ask this question because you are very loving.

Because I don't know what love is. I am saying that I only know the love of a mother and a child. And I don't say this because I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know.

Are you saying this based on personal experience or based on what you have seen in the society?

Based on what I have seen in the society. It's not just personal?

No, it's not very personal. I have seen a lot.

Okay.

When your daughter grew up and she found out that her father is a legendary man, a shining man, you are very successful, very popular, you are today, I want you to become more popular. But her father is a legend in the world. Did you ever feel scared that the girl whom I raised with so much difficulty, as a mother, she might get lost in the shine of her father when she is meeting him?

No, no, I was very proud.

How is her bond?

That he is her father. Why should I be worried? I, she is my daughter. Why should I be worried? mujhe kya tension hai? She is my daughter. Mujhe kya tension hai?

Secure rahe hain aap isme kabhi? Absolutely.

Nice. Ya. She is proud that he is her father. Why not? And she has two two fathers now. My husband is a very good father to her also.

How is that bond? Very good.

Too much nahi hai. Humara main aur Masaba bhi na hug-hug zyada nahi karte hai. Matlab physically kuch. Matlab unka hai sir bohot achha, respectful

bond hai which is very nice. Masaba ki life mein jab pehla unka divorce case hua, jiske le aapne kahi baar kaha ki aapne emotion zyada thob diye the unper. Kahin par yeh dar aaya You had said that you had put your emotions on them. Were you ever scared that there was an issue with my mom, an issue in my life, I don't want to see that with my daughter. God bless her, everything is fine in her life.

They were happily blissed. But when she came in the first phase, her divorce I guess, were you scared as a mother? Because a mother is always more protective.

I was very sad. I was very sad. I was very shocked. For a month, I couldn't believe. But then again, I moved on. Whatever God wants, will happen. I believe in destiny. Because you keep doing your karma.

They say, I have a new technique. It is called Karma Niyavadi Karasti. It says, do your karma, don't worry about the result. I say, do your karma, don't worry about the result. At least make a wish for the result. Otherwise, how will you do your karma?

Don't worry. At least make a wish.

We are not God.

Yes, you will make a wish. At least make a wish. We are not God.

Yes, you will make a wish. You will succeed. You will fail.

That's right.

So when your daughter has succeeded, Masaba is a well-known name today. Do you think all the struggles of life have been fulfilled?

I don't think so. I used to have struggles every morning. What kind of struggle are you in?

There are a lot. What kind of struggle are you in now? There is a lot. You don't know.

What kind of struggle?

There is a lot.

Everyone thinks that life is like this. The movie that came out, wow, life is like this. You are saying that there is still struggle in my life.

In every line.

I have a good son-in-law, it's sex, and yet he's quiet. Now what's the struggle in your life?

A lot. A lot.

Like what? Try to explain a little.

I can't tell you.

Okay.

So is it like a person's stomach doesn't fill no matter how much he gets?

No, it's not like that.

It's beyond that.

Okay. Everyone has their own problems. How many times have you fallen in love? Or you thought you have fallen in love because you say you don't have love.

I don't know. I don't know the answer to this question.

But we feel like butterflies.

In youth, butterflies keep happening.

Everyday.

No, I don't know. I really don't know.

Why are married women attracted to men?

I don't know.

It's common in today's generation too. You tell me, you men. Might be because they are more mature, practical, understanding, secure, straight. Women, because they are more mature at a young age, they get that maturity level there.

I think that makes sense. Or maybe men don't want to give their wives too much attention. This was my own analysis.

You also said the same

that till you don't take responsibility you make people feel pampered at home you are like a hen

I always say one thing I can only say this from my experience that loving and living are two different things

true living is very tough that loving and living are two different things. True.

Living is very tough for everybody.

True.

Loving is very easy. My friend had said something very nice. We were talking and she said she got angry. She said love also includes clothes, jewelry, property.

This, this, this. He said, how easy it is. You tell me I love you. And that's it. After that, I go to my house, you go to your house. So, do yours. I mean, he was talking about some third girl. That you know this, this, this. So, he said, no, love also includes all these things.

Does a woman need money, jewelry, attention?

She needs everything.

Good food, good drinks, travelling, everything is included in love.

And after all this, give me freedom. If I don't want to talk to you, then stay away.

Which is impossible. That's fine. But yeah, people have their own takes.

But there is a lot of discussion going on about your statement. You said that love is lust at first, but later on some people may get

converted to love. No, no. I said that in the beginning it is physical attraction. In all the cases you think so? Mostly the cases which I have seen. I have not seen the whole world.

I have not met every person. Mostly in youth, you get attracted to opposite sex. That is how your brain is wired.

So the people who call it love, they are just looking for an excuse

to be physically involved with you. No, not everybody.

That time you really feel you are in love. But this is lust, if you look further.

No, some people love till they die.

Then why you said this, that, I am asking you.

Because what I am saying is, it starts like this. Then next step, it starts basic attraction. Then you like each other's habits. Then you get accustomed to it. It becomes your habit when you live together. You can't do without each other. You need each other. Then there are children. Then you are bound with children.

That song is so beautiful. Jeevan ki bagiya mehekegi. It's a very beautiful song.

Acha ek mere baat batao. Main stage pe bhi kahin bhi hoon. Main Amit Sharma ke liye hamesha bolte hoon. He also say I love you, Neena ji. I love so many people.

I love Anurag Basu. Kyon? I love working many people. I love Anurag Basu. Why? I love working with him. I say, Amit and I say to each other, even on stage, I say, I love you, Nina. I say, I love you, Amit. We don't meet. I love so many people.

But the love we are talking about is different.

How is it different?

I will love my mobile phone.

No, no, how is it different?

I will love my mobile phone and car.

Yes.

Some people will kill you if you touch their car.

I will love my dog at home.

Yes, people go crazy in love with dogs.

Yes.

This is my picture. Acharya, look at it. I am saying that you… Which girl are you talking about? Tell me.

I am talking about the love between husband and wife. The love between lovers.

What is different in that?

You stay together, reproduce.

No, no.

You have a child.

No, no.

Say the word.

You stay together.

No.

You have sex. Yes, that is the difference. That is the difference. You can love anyone else. That is the difference. You are right. You are right. No, no.

But is it, is that partnership just for sex?

Then you say the opposite. It's a part of it. Important part of it. It's a very important part of it. That is how God has made humankind.

Obviously.

But I am saying that I can love so many people without that part also. Then.

Okay.

You had given another statement, ma'am, that 90 of women don't know what physical happiness is.

They think they are doing service.

Forgive me, maybe they know.

They keep doing service.

I have such experience. You ask.

That's a big thing.

Do research. Most people won't even say.

Do you feel the same today?

Today's world is also like this.

Okay.

Many people say that physical tuning, because you speak very poorly, is against Indian culture. We are not like this. I read this from a lot of people. I was also abused when I did the last podcast with Seema. You are ruining the society.

What is the need for this topic? Although, she showed me a lot of questions where people used to ask questions. When they used to talk about breaking relationships, or used to talk about stories of every house. But people don't talk about relationships breaking, which are stories of every household. But people don't talk about it.

So when you talk about physical tuning, do people accuse you too?

Have I ever talked about physical tuning?

Yes, you said that sex is overrated. When we talk about it openly, 95% of women, so all these are talks about physical tuning.

No, this is all about physical tuning.

No, this is not about physical tuning at all. This is about our society. Where the status of men and women is different, this is about that. This is not about physical tuning.

What is the difference between men and women in the context you are talking about?

Men are men, women are women.

But we say that everyone is equal.

You say that, so tell us. What is happening in the society? You know it. You are a journalist. Is there a woman equal to a man? It is not possible.

The women of our country are presidents.

So what? How would we know? If she is the president, then it's fine. It's a good thing. Women are in high positions. I am not talking about that. I am talking about the common people of our society. In that, men and women are not equal. I feel that. is no equality between men and women.

You had said something on the topic of feminism, that the person who cleans the utensils is a feminist. That was a very popular statement.

Yes, earlier they used to say, teach your daughter, she will learn and will clean the utensils.

Yes, clean the utensils. And educated women should also learn to clean the utensils. It was said sarcastically, but it was a very bold statement. People said anti-feminism.

Why do you say it's bold? It's not true, tell me. Okay, let me now take into it.

I am not a woman. Why?

I am a man, you don't know women. I know, I understand. You have no woman in your life. or sister, or you might have an affair with someone. Obviously. You are so young and beautiful. It's not like that.

It was obvious.

Then why do you ask me?

I have told my mother many times that you are working and my dad is working. But you come home and you work. I tried to convince her and explain to her. But I think there is a slight difference in our generation. I have seen in many couples who have shared their children. There may be some who haven't shared their children.

That will have to happen finally. But it will take time.

But we are in Delhi.

I am saying that you are not understanding. We are not talking about you. I am talking about many people who are my maids. They all raise their children alone. Husband left or is drunkard or married again. I have a gardener, I think he is 80 years old.

He has two marriages, he has 5-6 children. Why are you after me? Go and interview them. Interview those women who run the house.

So I come to your house one day and interview your maids and gardeners.

Do it.

You call me.

Yes.

She is a Sabai. She is raising three children alone. She has a Gook.

Okay.

I am saying I see these people. I'm not talking about you. I got it. Your status. Okay. Look, I'm a bad b.k. I'm a sleeper. It may be a body. A majority of the audience. That is what I'm saying. I am not talking about myself. No, no, I am just trying to understand your point of view. What is your point of view?

Like you gave a statement that strong women are not liked by men. Strong women don't like men. Now men have made a new definition of this. Men's definition is that strong women can't run a house. They think more about themselves, not about their families. Strong men have a different definition.

You said that strong women don't like men, they don't like to control. There are two different views. One is that we are grown up, and the other is that we feel that it is true.

It is true. It is true. Go and ask. Ask the common people. But listen, the men say that

a man, like someone who has become strong he says that I am taking care of the whole family. I am taking everyone along. He needs a wife who can

take care of his parents, who can run the house, who can take care of the kids, who can take the kids to school, who can drive the car, who can run their house, who can look after their children, who can drive their children to school. They are looking for that, right?

So, what is there in that? She won't make them strong. How does she know she won't make them strong? Maybe she won't, because she will go to work.

Or she can say, you can do it too.

She can also say that. Why only me? She will say, today I have to go somewhere, today you drop the kids or today you teach them, get them to do homework.

My friends have come, I said, listen, make tea. Your friends, now your friends have come, I said, make tea.

You will have an ego.

Is men's ego bigger?

I don't know. I felt something very strange. I was listening to Shabana talking to someone. She was talking about feminism. I really liked it. She said that she was outside India

and her friend was in her house and she was pressing Javed's kurta. So a friend said, you are talking about feminism and you are pressing his kurta. Will he ever press your sari? So Shobha said, I would like to do it. So if I polish my husband's shoes, what am I?

I am a suppressed woman.'s shoes, what am I? A woman who is depressed? No, brother.

What happened?

These definitions are wrong.

No, but let me give you this topic. Let me expand on this. When I first spoke to my mother that you do all this work, my father said, listen, I have been married for so many years,

it's done, you can see it in your own.

Correct.

He brutally gave me a reply and I was shut up. That brother, when husband and wife are happy, who am I? Now, like the thing with Shabana ji, the one who asked, this is a point, that okay, they will ruin the press,

they will ruin your sari, you are saying this out of fear. But will they mutually raise their hands?

What do you know about what they do for them?

Again, yeah, that's a beautiful point.

You see, what do we know? What do you know about what my husband does for me?

Beautiful, beautiful.

I can say that he doesn't do this. But what else does he do? Does anyone know?

That's right.

No one knows. That's right. So we have to respect that also.

Yes. We pointed out one thing but...

I said this many years ago. All the women say that we wear big earrings and husband doesn't notice. He doesn't notice. We do this and he doesn't notice.

We got our hair cut, you didn't notice.

So one day I said something very nice. I said, tell me something. Your husband took you to London or Mukteshwar or Nainital. Did you ever thank him? Did you ever thank your husband for taking you out? Thank you. Like that is a job for my dad, the job for a dad who is working outside. Yes, thank you Bola.

Nice, but like I am not married yet. Now if you give a statement that strong men don't think of strong women as marriage material. What are the benefits and losses of marrying a strong woman?

How would I know?

I wish I knew. I wish I knew. I wish I knew where I was.

You know that men believe that they should not marry chains.

I am talking about what I see.

I am asking based on that experience.

What? If strong women get married, what are the benefits and losses they can face?

If you... One day I was talking to Gulzar sir. I said to him, Gulzar sir and I told him No Gulzar sir, what's the use of this? He said, don't look at profit and loss in everything If you look at profit and loss from now on, you'll never get married

Do it quietly, wherever you feel like

Can a man be happy without marriage?

I don't know

I don't know

What is marriage? Is it necessary? Is it a need, loneliness, society?

Sorry, it is a need of society.

Why? Is society afraid of free people?

It is not afraid. You don't feel comfortable in that society if you don't get married.

That's why most people get married.

No.

It's the rule. We do it. We do so many things because it's been going on.

The world says that a woman should support another woman. I was reading your life. I realized that in your life, the woman was the enemy of the woman.

The one who made you cut your role was the heroine. Is it true? to Like we hear in Bollywood. No, directors didn't give me a role.

We used to play supporting roles. where we used to play the roles of Deepti and Naval.

So, there was a plan.

No one wanted me to do it. I was not someone who would be strict.

I read a story that you played a role with Feroz Khan. You were younger than him but you played a big role.

Big sister.

You played the role of a big sister. Was it for money?

Yes, yes.

All those roles I did, I had no money, whatever. Only then could anyone think. I never refused.

Like in our industry, our big actors like Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, they are around 60s. They are around 60 years old. In their films, you see 22, 25, 28 year old heroines. But our heroines have gone beyond 40 years old. Like Raveena, Aishwarya, Kajal and all the other beautiful Madhuri Dixit heroines of that era.

They now play a different kind of role. They are active. Either they are taking care of their family or playing a different kind of role. But our heroes are still heroes.

Why is that?

Our society is like that. In our society, a 7 year old can marry a 25 year old girl, but the opposite cannot happen. We show what is in the society.

But half of the society is women. So do women like this level of equality?

They don't like it. There is no other way. What is the other way?

In the world, it is not become so open in the world that we can be equal.

It's not about being open, it's not about being biological.

That's for kids. I'm talking about a heroine, like in Bollywood, if an actor is 60 years old, he's wearing makeup and looking good, but an 18 year old girl can dance with him. So, a 45 year old heroine, like Raveena Tandon, still look beautiful. Bahadur Dixit looks beautiful.

But with her, Ranveer Kapoor is working as a hero in a proper film. You don't see such films.

Yes, they will never come like that.

Whereas there are many female directors.

Yes, they don't come like that. They don't make them either. See, this is a business. You won't get a financial producer because the film won't run. That's what they'll think.

But like you didn't get a role in a period of time.

That can be the other way around, but this can't be. There are so many women who marry younger than them. Do you know? I don't know I know one

There is a name of Priyanka, there are a few more

Then? And how many other names are there?

All

Then what movie will you get if the society is like this? Look, the main jo hai, film industry hai. Jab maine saans kiya tha, toh mera yeh, maine likha tha, writer ke saath malke. Toh mera yeh, I wanted to say something. I wanted to say, ki yeh sab hua, yeh sab hua. Uske ba After that I just be alone I don't want him, he wants to come back And the other Masterji, he was also a platonic

I don't like both of them and I move away So Staplers did a survey Everybody wanted me to accept my husband. That's how the society is. So we had to do that. Whatever happens, the wife should accept the husband.

The house is adjusted. And the wife should adjust.

This is a norm. Now, Neena Gupta, when I think about it, it creates a strange feeling. Didn't you feel weird at that time?

At that time, I was very angry. How can he say like that? So crass. But now I feel that he was doing his work.

Business.

Yes.

He wanted to sell. No, he won't sell. The image in his mind, the image of the girl who is singing this song, it was like that.

That she is full of energy. Come on, do something like this. But I was new. Now I feel that he was doing his job.

they are told to put on weight. Earlier, now it's different.

So, isn't it possible in today's times, like what happened with Get Down?

Which one?

This one.

That you were told to put on some weight.

Yes.

Not me, costume designers were told.

Oh, they didn't tell you directly?

I was standing there, so and told the costume designer, no, no, this won't do. Do it like this.

That must have bothered you a lot.

I'm sure.

For a while.

But then the song was so beautiful. And I forgot about it.

But like the song was behind the choli. Now behind the choli, people say again, they say today that the same thing has been objectified to women. Which was put in the new generation, that what is behind the veil, what is under the veil. Indirectly, he wanted to say, you are giving women something

in which you are not saying anything, but you are saying everything.

No, I am saying, I have a heart behind the veil. What's the big deal? I am very smart. I am saying I have a heart.

The snake is dead, the stick is also not broken Yes It's being very smart Again the same story of the society There are no such things about men

I don't know what can be said about them

But I don't know

Like I noticed a very weird thing People also abuse Even women abuse

Yes, that too of the sister, mother No one abuses the father So I said, I understand the sister Why are that too of the sister, mother. No one abuses the father.

So I said, I understand the sister, why are you abusing the sister?

Yes, why are you abusing the sister?

Even the more feminist ones.

Yes, they get angry.

I'm like, you have the rest of your time. Why don't you say it here about the father and brother?

No, there are abuses.

But the songs that used to come out, did it also put a bug in the minds of the new generation? That women have a view of what we see. Even now, heroines are the same in 90% of films. They come, dance, play side roles. How much cleavage are you showing? Did a lot change from that time to this time?

There is a lot of change. OTT platforms, the kind of work we are working, people are watching. So there is a change. We don't have any sexist or sexist cleavage, but people are still watching.

So this means that we had accepted that the society is watching us.

No, we didn't give the society any option. If I give the society any options. If I give the society options, see, not everyone will like everything. Let's assume that. Every man and woman are different. Some will like this one, some will like that.

We didn't give them the other option.

A web series like Panchayat, where nothing is bad.

Nothing is bad. So it's going on now. It's going on. right? Yes. It's going on, right? We never gave it to her. I made a joke out of it. I showed a very decent side of the other woman. She wasn't smoking or drinking like she used to. It was going on. It was the biggest hit at that time on satellite platforms.

The boys would ask us, will you accept Sachivji as your son-in-law? It was the biggest hit at that time on satellite platforms. I know, everyone tells me to do something. Manju ji, do something. 4-5 seasons have been shown, ma'am. Tanki, tanki, tanki, tanki, khet, khet.

I will tell my writer about you.

You have lost the election.

Will you win the election? I don't know. I haven't received the script yet. I don't know what I am thinking. But which scene has affected your heart? We are shooting but the script has not come yet. I don't know what we are thinking.

But which scene was it that impressed you? That I did this in Panchayat. This is my favorite scene in Panchayat.

My favorite is the scene of the first episode of the Tiranga.

You play the Tiranga?

I learn it and get nervous. It is my favorite.

It is such a small thing. I remember my mom. So, there are many people in my family who are very high profile, men. They are more than my father, I mean, they are more than a degree or more than a higher official. But in my family, my mom is the first woman who used to work. She is still working. My mom is working. So, those women who were more than our family,

when they saw my mom going to school, people standing up and waving the flag, they used to say, we have everything, but you have identity.

Yeah, yeah, very important.

And my mom was very proud of this. When my mom's father comes to school. When my dad comes to my mom's school, it's like a madam's husband.

See.

In other places, she is in the middle of the officials. But she is sir's wife.

Sir's wife. Yeah.

And someone said that in the house where women are educated, children are never illiterate.

Yes, like in my house. My father was an LLB, my mother was a double MA, my brother was a CA, I was an MPhil.

No, it was a very good notice, it will make your mind run. If a man is educated, it is not necessary that all the children are educated.

Because he lives outside, mostly.

But if a woman is educated,

there is a 100% guarantee that her children will be educated. So she said, no, you do this, you can do it together, but do this. I thought, okay, I did it for their happiness. Now I will say, because of my studies, where I am today, how many things I have saved in life. Studies are very important. It comes of use at every step of your life.

If I talk about an actor, you studied in NSD. You must have been under the NSD administration. Nowadays, actors focus more on the gym. Instagram followers focus a lot. Do you think that this generation is a little divert?

The basics have become weak there. Other things are more...

Sometimes it seems. Sometimes it seems. Focus has become elsewhere. and a little bit diverse. The basics have weakened there. Other things are more... It happens a lot. It happens a lot. Focus has shifted to another place.

Will we see a side effect of this in the future?

Well, also don't forget that acting schools are opening up a lot. Like I heard today or tomorrow Anupam's acting school is opening up here in Delhi. One is in Bombay as well. So, a lot of acting school is opening here in Delhi. There is one in Bombay as well. So, a lot of acting schools are opening wherever these people are going.

Yes, but like I... We were sitting here for a few days, so we were talking about songs. Earlier, songs used to come, it seemed like the hero was singing. We used to feel it. Unfortunately, Arjit Singh retired.

And we were feeling a vacuum. That there are no more people whose songs make us feel. The lyrics are memorable. Like, in the 70s, Kishore, Rafi, Bukesh, later Shanu, Udit, or Vinod Rathod, Abhijeet Bhattacharya, all of them.

We feel them. They can sing anything. Sometimes, such lyrics don't mean anything. But they sang in such a voice. Same hero, he used to make you feel. I think he made the same face here, here, here and here. And we make fun of it.

So is it the effect of your priorities being more than acting? Gym, body or...

No, but think about what the producers are making. I should get a chance to do that. If my producer director says that I need a six pack, then I have to do it.

Six pack is important, but that should not be the first priority that I am talking about.

No, but then the director has to say that. I want you to go learn this, I want you to go learn this, I want you to go learn Hindi, I want you to go learn this, I want you to go learn Hindi, I want you to go learn this, this, this. If they say, we will do it. Some directors do it. I have, congratulations to our director, Amit Sharma, when he used to act out, we used to say, I wish I could do like you. He was so good.

I had 20 takes with him. Because he couldn't get the exact thing from us. I think director is very important. What kind of film he is wanting to make. What kind of songs he is wanting to make, what kind of songs he is wanting to make. Then the actor has to do whatever you say.

Okay.

I feel so.

The beautiful actors, do they not pay attention to their acting? The audience.

I believe that if you are a good actor, then people will listen to you. Okay. There are two types of actors in that. actor hai, toh log aapki baat ko sunenge. Usme bhi doh prakaar ki actor hota hai. Ek hota hai jiska craft dikhta hai. Bahut acha hota hai wo bhi. Ek hota hai jiska craft hi nahi dikhta. Jo lagta hai real hai. Wo sabse acha hota hai. Wo hota hai. Kaunse actors which seems real that is the best that is the best which actors do you define as the other ones? should I say from the ones who are there now?

yes

Sanjay Mishra

nice

Gajraj Rao Jackie I never thought because he never got a role like this he used to improvise on the spot when I used to look into his eyes, I used to see that character. His body language became like that.

He has done such other kind of roles.

In the new generation?

Who all are there in the new generation?

Ranbir Kapoor, Ranbir Singh, Shahid Kapoor.

Ranbir and Ranbir both.

Both.

So if I trouble you to choose between Ranbir Singh and Ranbir Kapoor, who do you think it is?

Nice.

I will never tell you.

I will never tell you.

Yeah, yeah.

Who else is there? Ranveer, Ranveer, and?

There are many generations ahead. I am talking about superstars who have made their work into a legend. There are many more who are doing good work. Like Siddharth Malhotra, Varun Dhawan, Aditya Roy Kapoor is a good actor. He was with you in that too. Ali Fazal is a very good actor. Actually, in the recent days, everyone has done a good job.

I really liked Ali's work.

Ali, yes. I never imagined. No, Aditya also. Because I used to think that Aditya is just a good looking boy. And when I saw the film, I said, wow, he was very good.

You liked Aditya Raghupur?

Many new girls like him a lot. hot? Many new girls find him hot.

Yeah, yeah, I find him hot.

There is something special about him.

Who finds someone hot in old age? What kind of question is this?

The old lady has gone crazy.

In a 49-50 year old marriage, is it a mature marriage? Is it a story of sharing loneliness more than romance?

Oh God! What kind of questions are you asking?

This is a good question, ma'am.

I think tension is less. Tension is less because saving have to save money and build a new house. Children need money to send to school and London. If all these things were over, you are much more relaxed.

Do people get possessive? After getting married at the age of 49-50.

I am thinking. He is not possessive at all, which I don't like. He is not possessive at all which I don't like

He is not possessive

What?

I am pointing at sir

No he is not

So you want to get controlled? A little bit yeah Not control, hello That's a wrong word He should be possessive

Show him a little bit of right from right Don't do so much that you don't even realize that my presence doesn't matter. But you are running a long distance marriage.

Long distance is good at this age.

Look, at this age, I say, do what you like. I do what I like. Then we meet, so we meet with love.

Nice. I say, do what you like, I do what I like. Then we meet, we meet with love.

Nice.

You have always been honest about age. Does it ever scare you that a new phase of life has come? There is a limit to a human age. Now everything is going well. You have children, you have a husband, you have a grandchild. The work is very good. All the things in life husband, a grandchild, everything is going well. All the dreams you had in your childhood are coming true.

But you are growing older. Does growing old scare you?

A lot.

How does it scare you?

That if I die, who will take care of my husband's child? If I do something wrong, who will explain it to him? All this... I am scared. I am scared of death.

Do you get thoughts?

Yes, a lot.

Do you get your own thoughts or about your loved ones?

Both.

What is the difference?

I have a lot to do. I have just got a chance. I have a husband. What will happen to him? I don't know if I will be able to go. The one behind me is the one who is sad.

So, I have to deal with all that.

Are you afraid of being alone? Or are you used to being alone?

Yes. I am not alone now. I have understood my loneliness.

You have made a circle.

Have you ever been depressed in life?

Yes, a lot.

But before this, there were not so many talks about depression.

I don't call it depressed. I am feeling low today. I am feeling sad today. I didn't know that word depression. Today I am sad. Let's go shopping. Today I'm sad. I've learned new things. Kishore, you're sad. You're feeling lonely. So, let's go. Before, I used to call my friend. Now I call my friend. Brother, can I come? I'm feeling very lonely. If you're free.

I'm learning to break these inhibitions.

If I say your book is true, did you feel light after writing it?

Yes.

Why did you write the book? You have told so many things to the world about you.

Yes. I had wanted to write this book for many years. But my own people in this book, they won't like it like me writing about them. So I did not write. I used to start over and over again. Now all those people are no more. That is why I wrote it now.

Is there anything still that was not written in that book?

Yes, a lot.

You did not say everything truthfully.

No. Because it is painful for the people involved. Sach keh kar bhi sach nahi kaha sab kuch. Nahi.

Kyuki yeh sambandit logon ko takleef hoti hai.

Kabhi aur likhna chahogi? Ikkis ka second version?

Nahi.

Aur na kya hota hai, kuch cheezein na bhaddhi lagti hai. Kuch cheezein ke baare mein baat karna bhadda lagta hai. Mujhe bhadda pan nahi acha lagta. I don't like being a traitor. That's like Sunil Grover.

Yes.

Sunil Grover's words.

Yes. Yes.

All are good.

All are good.

Nice.

At the end of this book, you have also mentioned forgiving yourself.

Forgiving yourself.

I forgot.

What is it?

What is forgiving yourself?

I don't remember what I said.

If we talk about our life, we forgive the world, but we also make a compromise with ourselves.

Yes, I made the mistakes I made at that time. Now leave it.

Don't you have any regrets in your life?

I have a lot of regrets. That's why I don't think about the past. My life is full of regrets.

So, I will say it again, because this is a rapid fire in the end segment If someone had to change the climax of your life

If someone had to change the climax of your life

Which has changed your whole life Like I can give you 4-5 options

If I had not done it together

Then you would have become a heroine Yes, I would have become a heroine

If I had not met Vivian

If I had said yes to Satish Ji. No, not that.

You wouldn't have done that?

No, I wouldn't have done that. That wasn't right.

But might be he was in love with you. Sometimes people say that marry the one who loves you. That makes you happier.

No, I wouldn to do it with. I don't want to break social service.

He was trying to do good for you and he was in love with you.

He said, she is a very beautiful girl. You can't even ask him that. No, no, he has been a friend for a long time.

Okay, last question.

Did you ever shake hands while writing a book? friend for a long time. OK na lage, decent lage.

Rukh jaati thi, do chaar din uske baad phir shuru karti thi. Aaja bahut safal hai aapki. Aap heroine ban rahi hai sumro mein bhi aur back to back heroine wali film me aar rahi hai. Wahi film me sign karein jahan par aap lead mein hai. Ya aapki pramukh bhoomika dikh rahi hai. I'm not sure what you're saying. But you say that you keep remembering some wounds. Do you ever feel like your work is gone? It's not working again?

Yes, it's possible that this period of mine may not last long. But then I'll make something of my own.

You've become secure now?

No one is ever secure. But you see, I have the ability to move on, but I am only afraid of one thing, which I have to work on, health. Because we work for 15 hours, it affects the body because of the age. So I have to be very careful what I eat and if I exercise or not and look after my body which is very difficult especially at this age.

You were around Gulzar ji, Shabana ji, so I am sure Javed sahib was also around. Did you ever have a passion to write? Did you ever write anything for yourself?

I used to write a lot while breathing.

Can you tell us a couple of lines?

Should I tell you a scene that I wrote?

Yes.

So I caught my husband red handed that he is having an affair with this girl. I come back. I come back. I am sitting on the bed. It's night.

I am sitting on the bed like this. He comes. And What happened? Why are you sitting so sad? Sit. He sits in front of me on the bed. I say, I got married to you at a young age. Since then, I take every decision of life with your advice.

I have been asking you about any problem. Today I am in a very big problem. My husband is having an affair with another woman. Tell me what to do.

I love this scene. No?

I wrote this scene. say he was a visuality majority of the mary's in the east other Mary kiss a cohen you match you this is a little less a beauty to me to children I say hmm where say we share theory majority we marry Zendaya honeysada

make it a little bit of a nice

I've even I a lot of a cabata

very nice a share cemented with a poem, asking you a question. There was a poem in a film called Fun House, that a person's desire is not a limit, he needs two acres of land, even after two acres of fun. What are the desires of Meena Gupta Ji?

I have to do a lot of roles, and I have to do a lot of roles and I have to fit in a lot more and I have to make a documentary about poor women

Nice

God has given you a lot, but he hasn't given you a lot I have made a channel called Bhakti Book. I have made a story there. What happens after 14 days of death. A person sees. Suppose you meet God. I ask a hypothetical question.

God meets us all. In our meditation, contemplation, in our thoughts, through the soul. Will you complain to God or be thankful for all the things that have been left?

I talk to God five to six times a day. I sleep on my bed at night when they spread a new sheet, crisp white, and change the cover of my pillow, and the cover of the mirror. I say thank you. I say thank you for every step of the way. And when I get angry, I speak out loud. This is not fair.

You scold God?

I don't scold, I argue. This is not fair. Okay, whatever you say. Because I can't do anything more than that. But I have this relationship with God.

Did this develop later or from the beginning?

It developed later. relationship with mom. We grew up in such an environment. We are free in this matter. No caste discrimination.

How is your grandmother?

Very solid. What did I teach her?

What did you teach her?

Towe, Totadia, Totas, Mantalda. Things that Masawa doesn't know. Poshampa, Poshampa, things that you don't know.

I have heard of it.

We used to play it when we were kids.

I have heard of it. We are from small towns.

Yes, we used to play with these things.

If you have to tell something to old Nina Gupta, I am a kid to it to a reserve. I got put on an in a group to go. Could you put on a deal is like a Mickey you somehow carry a car.

And I'm assuming

I got asked to go put on an in a group to go to get another one. This was how they know. Could you put on a.

To get back.

A chip sauce.

Sook.

To put an SEC. To put it. you say. I have to learn this. I talk a lot. How much did I talk? I am tired of talking.

I have also finished it.

I was summarizing.

I got everything but not love.

No, you got a lot of love.

What are you saying?

Why are you after love? I think you need love.

Yes, maybe. I think I need love. sab kuch mila pyaar nahi mila. Nahi, bahut pyaar mila. Kya baat karte hain aap to? Aap pyaar ke peeche kyu pade hain?

Aapko pyaar chahiye hain, I think.

Haan, shayad.

Waas rahi hain wahan baith ke.

Usko bhi chahiye hain na.

Usko bhi chahiye hain. The problem with most successful people is that they have everything. They have people, they have money, but maybe they have a crowd, they have friends.

They don't have time. They don't have time, and with time, they are not the right person to enjoy the happiness of success. Yes. Kaushik used to tell me that that Kaushik's separation had happened, his baby had died, you know. He used to say that he doesn't understand the girls who come to me, who want to have an affair with me,

are they coming because they want a role or because they like me? It was very difficult for him.

Is it possible? It was very difficult for him. It happens.

Before leaving, last question. How do you see life? What is life for you?

What is life?

After so many ups and downs, what is your definition of life?

Beautiful. Life is very beautiful. Live it as much as you can.

For yourself?

Where did this for yourself come from? Live it, right? For you, for him, for me, for my baby, for everybody.

But many people spend their whole life in this. They live for everyone, but not for themselves. Especially in our small towns, we see old mothers and grandmothers who have given up their whole lives for others. They have no one left. They have fed everyone.

In the end, no one asked them if they are eating or not. They have pressed their clothes and made them go around. They are returning. They have done everything.

I can't say it now. You will get the answer in August.

Is there anything coming?

Amazing is coming.

So for whom?

Live for everyone or for yourself?

How can you live for everyone? I will tell you. The person who wants to live by making everyone happy, he himself never remains happy and his own people Let me tell you. A person who wants to live a happy life He never remains happy and his own family never remains happy with him.

Because he wants appreciation. Appreciation is a major hassle in life. You need appreciation every second. Why don't I wear this dress at home? I wear it outside so that he says, Neena, your dress is very nice. I need appreciation.

So, keep appreciating in relationships. Keep appreciating in relationships.

It is very important to appreciate in relationships. It doesn't happen later.

It happens normally

I know

I want you to read a book You read books, you don't have time No, I read My favorite is Ken Follett His new book has come Circle of Days

It is a very big book Stone Age

Very nice The You said that earlier there were no restrictions. Today there is a tag. People have taken it out. Yes. I said that earlier people who lived in tribes there was no marriage

a child was raised by a tribe

yes, yes

there was a lot of discussion about that

you know it's about that thing in London what is it? Stonehenge it's based on that it's very nice you will get to know what I had said about it. Very interesting.

Thank you so much, Ma'am. It was a very nice couplet. There are many faces in every face, which you can see again and again.

Yes, it is true. I am saying the same thing. Every house has a clay pot and stove. Every story is very good.

If it is successful, then it is told.

Yes, correct.

There is so much population that the stories that are successful are sold. I know, I know.

Otherwise, every man is struggling on his own. Thank you so much, lovely and best wishes for your death. You have not killed him, you have killed him.

I have not killed him, I have killed him.

You have not killed him, you have killed him. Not killed him, but killed him. Yes, killed him. So, many best wishes. We hope that the people who will watch the podcast, the movie will not be longer than this.

No, no, no.

And I will also wish you good luck. May God give you a good girl. And you get a good love.

Seriously.

I will meet Vivek Nichat and ask him.

Yes, you love him. Ask him. Ask your husband too. I will definitely ask him. Everyone asks me. Was I alone in that?

I will ask him. I am not lying.

Ask him and call me.

I will definitely call him.

What did you say?

The world will know by itself.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Okay, thank you. Thank you.