Unplugged ft. Taapsee Pannu |।Raw & Real Podcast| Assi | Thappad | Pink | Kangana Ranaut

These are the people who were initially called a pauper by the industry. But they said, I'm like a money plant. The biggest loss of being a free man.

If a man is a free man, he is considered knowledgeable, well-versed and confident.

Shahrukh and Yadav are from Delhi. They have their own style. But people often see them in arrogance.

I'm better looking than you, bro.

Khan is the best actor in the country.

In the world.

Take 2 minutes. I'm better looking than you bro. Khan is the best actor in the country. In the world. Anurag doesn't know. Nothing happens in 2 minutes.

I asked the same question to sir.

What is the secret of Shafsi and Shahrukh Khan's hair?

Which oil do you use on your head?

I neither use shampoo nor any artificial product. How does hair look so wet in every scene? No actually it's a spirit drama

Boycott again

Keep boycotting, boycott our movies too No no please don't boycott, watch my movies I'm not joking, I haven't joked in any movie

Is the society weak?

Yes of course

The one who doesn't listen to me is maybe Maybe even more weak Obviously, whether he's of Neena ji's age, or mine, or even younger than me, you are judged by the clothes. Judging is our right from birth. Now this is a joke. Disclaimer below, sarcastic joke. Sorry.

A husband from abroad is also possessive.

Look, now don't put me in this controversy.

You also told your husband, your money, your money, my money.

Now I am in Denmark, so he spends in Euros, if he is in India, he will do it. If he spends more money there, he will do it here. Because he is not in a popular field. Otherwise, people from the badminton world start calling him Jija Ji.

So, start making some Instagram Reels right now.

Dancing. I am fed up of that.

Which songs do you viral?

Sajan Sajan Teri Dulhan Saja

It's very cute

Pink came, so no means no

No means no Because we used to believe that sometimes women's names also have a meaning

There is a relevance in the industry because of Pink

You are made from Pink, not from cheap copy

Oh okay

The fight between Kangana and Tapsepan is famous all over the world.

When did I fight?

Her sister told you that you're a cheap copy.

Yes, I don't earn as much as they do, so I am cheap.

Didn't your fight help those Nepo kids?

Someone must have benefited from it.

Will you be my friend? Slap is a part of our society. Love.

I slapped you because I loved you. If he feels love, then go ahead and slap him. There's nothing wrong with that.

But like you said, a smart girl is the one who bows down. Someone said that to run a relationship, one of the two has to become a fool. If both become smart, the relationship becomes weak.

No.

One of the two has to become a little smarter.

Yes.

Why did you normalize rape in India. Because the number has increased so much. There's a line in the movie, that 81 days, that is, in a year, can fill a stadium. Now think about the visual. If this hadn't been done, it wouldn't have happened. If you go out in such clothes at night,

you're saying that they're inviting you, right? So, what if the boy gets excited? The one doing this is another woman who is not letting his wife leave the house.

What is the toughest thing in life for a girl who has been through this? That experience, that memory. When that happened, that courtroom torture. Or when that case won. Or her afterlife.

No one has the answer to that.

I like your pink a lot. I was shaken up when I saw your slap. I like your Manmarziya,he is one of my best films. I like Badla a lot. I'm going crazy after watching the 80's trailer. I asked him very gently, ask me brother, why did you do Jhulwa 2?

Because people started making me the heroine of 8 films. I don't want to do that, that's why I'm doing that.

Man Marzi had a very famous dialogue. But you're a subtle guy.

To tell your whole life, you need stability.

If you love Salman, then you should marry Abhishek Bachchan and Vicky Kaushal. Why does Nehru turn on Bhojpuri and South cinema?

I want to know this.

It's not that the item songs in Hindi cinema don't focus.

Hindi cinema is more about cleavage. When Gupta ji came, Subhash Ghai told him to wear padded bra.

That's all. But it's said in South.

Which cricketer does something happen?

Sky, I think.

Today, we have with us on the podcast, the person the industry initially tried to call a pauper. But he said that I have done BTech, I am like a money plant. So give me a chance or else I will go to the place where I get the chance. She is the girl who had learnt coding but now she has explained the frame of the camera. Sometimes she is Haseen Dilruba on screen, but in real life there's Bebaak, Bindas, Bold. For them, No Means No is not just a dialogue, it's seen in life too. In self-respect, in lifestyle, in everything.

Whether it's a courtroom, or breaking the stereotype in the mainstream, or not being afraid of uncomfortable questions. In simple words, she is the girl who didn't fit in the industry. She stayed like herself and made sure that the industry fits her.

Welcome Tafsir.

I have high expectations from myself after listening to this. Thank you very much. Very heartwarming introduction. Thank you. Was the big shot right? Yes, I mean the factual things were fine. Now, the things you told me about perception, I hope they are right.

Because I wanted it to be like that. Now, how successful I am, we will find out. We don't get a report card immediately in our industry.

But Tapsee, like in a film, people often say, don't meet the people you like. Because in real life, people are very different.

That's true.

Now, there is a perception about Tafsi. That there is a way in which Tafsi has represented himself in front of the world.

Yes.

The Tafsi that we see in movies, Twitter, Instagram, how different is the real life Tafsi from that?

Actually, my problem is that I made a mistake in my career that I kept both of them the same. Why am I saying it was a mistake? I am saying this because after many years I realized that these are two different things and they have to be kept separate. And only then you will be called successful in mainstream terms. If you have an image and you are serving it, and you have a personal life which has nothing to do with your professional image. I found out about this very late in

my career. By then, it was done.

A lot of water had been spilled in the pond.

Yes, it was done by then. Then I said that now whatever has happened, at least I will not have to work hard, I will. Because it is what it is. At least my effort is saved. I put that effort in my work. I save a little from there. But you can say that this is my mistake.

Like I am a political journalist, apart from podcast, I always hear that

perception is everything.

Has it ever benefited or harmed?

Both. It benefits because the audience that comes to me, most of them, my audience, who watch my movies, they say some really nice things. They don't just ask for selfies.

There are people like that too. Just thank you for being you. Just thank you for the movies you make, the roles you play, the things you say. We are happy to see that a public figure that I look up to like a hero or a heroine, stands like this.

So I feel like I've inspired someone on an unwanted occasion. I feel good about that. I feel like something good about it. I feel like it's good. The only downside is that I feel it will be difficult to deal with. It's difficult to work with it, it's difficult to deal with it. And I have spent many years trying to understand what this means.

I have a lot of clarity. I know what I want and what I don't want. I can be wrong. I have never said that I am 100% right. But I own up to my mistakes and when I feel right, I am standing on it. I am never disrespecting anyone or saying that you are wrong. I don't do that. I think my clarity is kind of very harsh for people to accept.

Because of which people consider me difficult. But now what is there, is there.

What was the biggest loss of being free?

Actually, we have made the word free in such a wrong way. When we say free, People perceive it negatively. If a person is free, then he is considered knowledgeable, well-versed, confident and well-spoken. If a woman speaks a lot, even if she is speaking according to her knowledge of her work, she is seen as a negative thing. If you see it as a negative thing, then it is a loss.

Like I told you, your perception image is not good for a woman. So, are all these rules and regulations of society only for women? According to the character, the rules and regulations are mostly

applicable to girls.

Like you mentioned about hero vs heroine or men vs women. I was struck by the fact that when I was watching Animaal or Kabir Singh I enjoyed it a lot. Alpha male. I was enjoying it. I took off my shirt. I had multiple relationships. Everything was going on. But when I was watching Haseen Dilruba, I started reading the comment section.

Oh, such girls, character started reading the comment section.

There are two films, one is about girls, the other is about characters. People are portraying in both.

One is about you whistling at them, the other is about you questioning them. So, is the society stupid? Yes, of course. And the one who doesn't believe in it is the reality. Maybe even more stupid. to the I think we are also out of the line. We have a heroine who is representing us. We can also do this.

We have a life. Our representation can also be like this. Rather than just the one who tolerates and stays quiet. And in the end, everyone has to show mercy and make a decision. Beyond such characters, we can represent ourselves beyond the characters of Haseen Zorba.

That's why I have kept a proper segment for your big films. Because I found your film choices very interesting. Do you think films have an impact on the society?

I feel it's a huge responsibility. But I feel it forces people to talk to an extent. In the sense, a conversation can happen in a few minutes. Whether it's a movie, a dinner, a coffee, or a conversation during an interval. It's a conversation that we don't normally have in our lives.

You can do that much. How far you can take that conversation, I think, depends on the individual. You can't do that in a normal life. You can do that much. How far you can take that conversation, I think, depends on the individuals. They can't do it in a film.

Someone asked me very slowly, why did you do Jhulwa 2?

Because people started making me the heroine of 8 films. So, I thought, don't call these 8 films parallel cinema and put them aside. These are our stories.

When you are coming to see me, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. That's why I'm doing it. That's why I'm doing it. That's why I'm doing it. That's why I'm doing it. That's why I'm doing it. I I did Judo after that. I went over 135. So you can see for yourself. Good cinema.

People enjoy watching movies without any brain.

That's not bad either. Because you don't eat the same food every day. You change it and eat it. You eat the same food every meal. You get bored. So I don't have any problem.

You watch all kinds of cinema. But if you put aside the cinema of the past, and say, no, we don't want to think too much about it, or don't show us the reality of the theatre. We want to forget the reality. So if you want to eat a type of cuisine that is not your own, that is not your reality, then eat Dal-Chawal someday.

Now people eat Dal-Chawal in the middle class. And before I go into serious films, I want to explore the middle class a little. Often we are told that no matter how much money a middle class person earns, he does not go to the middle class from within.

Yes, of course.

Do you have any left?

What kind of instances? I don't remember any instances.

You said in an interview that your chef is worth 1 lakh rupees.

Not chef, my nutritionist takes Rs. 1 lakh per month. This is related to my work. If I don't spend on this, then where will I spend it? People spend on things related to their work. This is my expense. But other things are like, don go to a Michelin star restaurant because the set menu is for Rs. 50,000.

Versus if I order the same thing in Alakart and get it in a cheaper restaurant, then obviously I will go there. I don't remember middle class because I don't find those instances. I help them every day. Middle class people keep their things safely at home.

He lives in Australia. Old packets, old boxes, old things. Tafsi, is there anything left in the house?

I feel that there are only boxes in my house. Not just courtesy me, I will say more for my mother. She doesn't throw anything away. I'll give you an example. If you watch the podcast, you'll scold me a lot. This is a recent incident, so I remember. I saw a box full of tags, which we take off our clothes.

I saw a box full of tags, which we take off our clothes. These are local high street brands. I asked, what's in it? Why is it there? Should I have thrown it away? I asked, what's in in handy? It will come in handy for the bookmark. So, my sister and I were in shock for a second.

What my mother has thought is not wrong. But to go this far, what would a person like this save?

This is middle class.

Exactly. So, middle class. Exactly.

So this is their DNA. Mom will scold me.

Which item did you buy that made your parents say, you've wasted all the money? Who wastes so much money?

All the money. I'll tell you, in my family, they say, you're born different from us. I sometimes have a doubt, I'm the most different from everyone else. I sometimes have a doubt that they have brought me from somewhere else. Because in my family, there are all saving kings and queens. They will save in everything.

Do you know what they save in? If we are coming from Delhi, then we will bring vegetables Delhi because it is a little expensive here in Bombay. So, the vegetables are coming in check-in bags. And they say that outside your apartment, it is expensive. It is 10 rupees expensive here. So, we will go a little further to Lokhandwala or a little far away where it will be a little cheaper.

Because where big apartments are built, the vegetables of the vendors outside become expensive. So we do such things, middle class family.

So when you go from Delhi to Mumbai, tell me what is the difference between Delhi and Mumbai?

There is a lot of difference. In Mumbai, the biggest difference is, let me tell you the biggest difference is safety. Because for the first time at 2 am,

I mean, people don't die by falling into the pits. It's happening a lot here these days.

You didn't say it the other way round. People died in two pits here in Delhi. Yes, the same pits. There are no such pits in Mumbai. But the roads in Mumbai are not that great. But the difference, as a girl, I am telling you,

at 2 in the night, I was sitting in an auto with my friend in Bombay. I was so overwhelmed.

Why were you sitting in an auto?

I was excited about the fact that I could leave the house at night in public transport.

You had to sit in an auto?

Yes, when I had not come to Bombay. Oh, in a new car. When I had not come to Bombay, I was used to using any public transport But you could see my excitement, I didn't record it I was just roaming around in public transport after sunset or after 11 or 12 And no one was catcalling me, no one was whistling at me, I was not feeling awkward or scared of anyone. That was what overwhelmed me.

That was the biggest difference between Delhi and Mumbai.

You were very popular in Delhi, right?

Yes. While going to college from my home in Delhi, I remember when I used to stand at the bus stop, I used to stand at the outer ring road. So, there was a bus number 861, I don't remember the exact number. But it used to drop me near the college.

And the frequency was very low. So I used to reach there on time and look at the bus. But it used to take me a long time to gauge how many women are sitting inside, how many men are sitting inside, how many men are sitting inside, how many seats are empty I should get in only if I feel that the seats are a little more empty and there are a few more women

There are only a few and there are fewer seats, so I didn't get in, even if I got late in college I used to leave that bus Because obviously, like 99% of girls, I have met have been in an accident in Delhi where you have been touched unwillingly or you have been in a bus or public transport accident

So, does this happen to all the girls?

I am yet to meet a girl from Delhi who has not been in an accident I am yet to meet one

But the people who are travelling, the kids who are traveling, they have sisters, they have family members, the same college kids are going, who go to college and light candles. I remember in 2011 when there was an incident in Delhi, my entire college was lighting candles, we were all on the streets.

So which people are these? I don't understand that sometimes, because the dialogue in your movies about not having a mother or sister in the house. But it's valid. It applies to everyone. I don't understand it either. When I read about rape cases, I feel that... You must have read about a 6-year-old girl being raped by 3 boys aged 10, 11, and 13. Now, these 10-13 year old boys, what kind of jurisdiction do you think they should be punished for?

What is their fault? Is it their parents' fault? Is it their upbringing's fault? Is it their surroundings' fault? How could the police have predicted this? How could the court have given justice to this? All these questions concern me. If such young boys can commit such a crime, with a 6-year-old girl, then did they see, hear, or do anything in their upbringing that they feel is right? That we and done that they think it's right. That we can do this. We have the power to do this.

When I face such incidents, they force me to think that we are all going somewhere wrong as a society.

But this is only, like you said earlier, a 6 year old girl. This is the opposite. I had come with a writer who lives in the US. I did a podcast with a writer who lives in the US. She must be around 75. She talks about sex, life, work, and she writes books. She said that a lot of people chase her.

I asked her who was the youngest. She said a 15 year old boy. He wanted to have physical intimacy with her. Her statement was very controversial. It was in a lot of discussion. But I realized that I have heard stories with 80-year-old grandmothers.

Absolutely.

So, it means that neither is age dependent, nor is your clothing dependent on the fact that this will happen to you. It is not that such accidents happen only after 10 or 9 o'clock. It doesn't happen before that. There is a specific time of the day that is wrong. I think if you look at statistics,

there is no time that makes someone rape. There are no clothes, there is no age. It is the mentality of the person who is raping.

But in 2011, when there was a big incident in Delhi, the whole country came together. There was a juvenile in that too. Fast track code, all the things came. I was watching the trailer of your film, when I spoke to Anubhav Sinha.

So, 80... I couldn't digest it. That this can't be. Then I went there myself, I reported on it. And I realized that 80 to 80 data is running. And I was shocked that how can it be normalized so much. Meaning if 81 girls are going and complaining, because in rape cases, how many times have you bothered each other, you have not complained? And it must have been tortured in every way. This happens with every girl.

I ask my friends. So I realized how big a level this is going on.

Yes, it is going on. And this is why it has become normalized, because it is happening at such a high level. And every day, you see the same news, the same news, so you feel that this is a part of our life. Because it has increased so much. Now I feel that we have conveniently sat back thinking

that we are not being surrounded by this, this is not happening at our home. But the day it are at home, everyone will consider that normal. Because you too have been considering those instances normal.

But you were in Delhi, why did you go out at night?

You tell me, countless. You must have heard so much because you are a political journalist. So every day everyone keeps throwing such statements that blame has to be put somewhere. We will put it on the girl and the one who has done it or who is supporting it, the If you see the documentary, you will see that a father is not only fighting for his 13 year old daughter's case in the court, but also in his village. He is saying that let him fight for my daughter's case.

The villagers are saying that you should have kept her in the village. Why did you even file a complaint? So, filing a complaint is such a big achievement. Because half of the people don't let you do it. They say that it is a matter amongst ourselves, we'll sort it out. Or, at least one of them is ready to get married.

What was the most cultural shock you experienced in Bombay? Like, you know how they say, the rich people's panties. What was the most cultural shock you experienced?

The logic of the rich people's panties won't apply here. Because there are all kinds of kinds of strata there too. One thing is that you can wear anything and no one is telling you anything, no one is correcting you by looking at you. In Delhi, half the time, this was worn according to what the uncle next door would say or what the society aunt would say. How are you playing with boys? I also got a big complaint at home that she plays with boys a lot. So, there are no such things.

And one thing that is different, maybe because it's Maharashtra, where Marathi is the first language in many schools, but forget about Marathi, I think people speak Hindi and Marathi less. And I started speaking English with people after 21 years when I went to the South. Because there, the common language would be English. Tamil and Telugu audience.

So, it means that Punjabi people, whether it's a boy or a girl, all have the same vocabulary.

What do you mean? Oh, I see. Actually, when I was studying in school, I studied Punjabi till 10th class, Hindi till 8th class, but in English medium school. But we never used English. We started using it when I went to the South. After that, when I came to Bombay, I realized that people are not able to speak Hindi here. And if I speak more in Hindi than them, my Hindi will get spoilt.

There are such weird lines. If I tell you something, you will laugh too. Yesterday, my sister's husband got off. So I was in shock. He got off. She is making fun of him. She's happy that I'm sad. It's off? I'm off? I was shocked at first. How can this be off? Or, if a signal falls, I have to take a ride from there. Will the signal fall? Why will it fall? So, these are some things that I found odd to hear in the beginning.

It took me some time to understand. Rest, I think, strata wise, people from both strata are there.

I learned two words in a month and a half.

Ikde tikde.

I had run out of them.

Yes, that too will help you in direction sense. Because we had to drive all over Maharashtra. There was an election, so we had to go to different places. When I came back, I said I have only learnt these two things.

Then it's good that you didn't learn much.

I got a very common question, asking Tapsee. People had seen your film with Shahrukh Khan, Dunky. So people asked Tapsee, what is the secret of Tapsi and Shahrukh Khan's hair? How are they so hairy?

You should ask Shahrukh sir. I think God has given me hair of four people. I am very happy for that. But it took me a long time to understand. I have known myself through 50 different names throughout my life.

Maggie Chowman

Maggie Chowman, your hair is like Satya Sai Baba's, or your nipples are like that. People used to put pencils in your hair and go around in them. They used to put some garbage in it.

Mosquitoes will get stuck inside and die.

Exactly.

I mean, there were such funny things. Batshar andar faske maar jayega. Saim mein. Matlab aise aise funny cheeze thei toh mein ko yaad hai. Mein ko bolta thei. Bachpan mein na, ki 13 sez mein juhe nahi padengi. Kyuki wo suicide kar lenge.

Uske baad. Aise aise ajeem aur...

Wohne raaste hi nahi milenge indo chizakne ke. But, this is DNA. But, we should ask Shahrukh sir. What kind of hair does he have? You didn't ask? I didn't ask. I had a lot of things that I wanted to know from him. But, it was not about hair. My hair is fine. So, I didn't need to know. I used to ask about other things.

So, the girls didn't ask what their hair routine is.

They said, next time I will meet, I will ask about your girl. We'll have to do a separate podcast. Because the type of hair I have, we have a long, routine discussion about it.

But did these hair loss happen? Because I heard that when you came here,

people said that this doesn't make you a hair heroine. Yes, I've been straightened a lot. So they think that girls with curly hair just keep fighting, they remain rebellious, or they just have to go against the flow.

This character sketch came with hair. or they have to go against the flow. This character sketch came with hair. If you want to portray a simple girl, you can't come with curly hair. So in many films, I was asked to straighten my hair.

Do you think you are a simple girl who is portraying?

Now I understand how to tell them that hair has nothing to do with character. At least you listen to people. You are so new at that time. You just need a chance. That's the big thing.

You'll straighten your hair. You'll become a bald again.

But this beauty pageant, like you went to India. I heard there that someone said that you shouldn't be here. I interviewed Manushi Chillar. So I asked him this question. Beauty pageant is beauty with brain. But when we look at it, we see one type of guy. We believe that this is the standard of beauty.

We don't see it in colour, or in body shape. So, is he really a beauty pageant? I am asking because this is the first time I am asking you.

I actually realised the reality of it after going there. I was also in the same kind of crowd that used to look at me and say, how beautiful you are looking. And if 5-6 people around you say that you are beautiful, then you feel that you should be Miss India next. Only till you go there.

And there you realize that this…

Was it said by a 10th class PC?

No, the 10th class PC teacher had left me. No, but you are in engineering college. Out of 60, 10 girls are in CSC.

Then you are talking about girls.

No, it was not electronics, but then...

Mechanical, mechanical students like us.

Don't ask about mechanical.

I mean, we had Akal in Mechanical Civil.

I had 18 girls in the class of 60 students. So, obviously, you think you're the queen of the class. So, I applied for it. But, when I went there, I realized that this prototype doesn't work here. You think that you have brains and you look fine. So, I realized that...

In engineering, all the girls, the standard they have, they feel more than that. Because the options are so limited. If by mistake, a girl to a civil or mechanical school, then the princess treatment that she gets...

But think of that girl, who has just come to her senses that you are so good.

You are a beauty, you are the most beautiful, you are the youngest.

What else?

So you reached there. She is realizing that she has reached the wrong place. You have no status here. No one is asking you. They are telling you to go home. Why did you come here?

So I realized that this is not made for me. Just get out of here somehow. Let's see after that.

I was very curious about a question. Is the husband who has come from abroad also possessive? Because we believe that all diseases are in our country. Desi boys are more possessive.

Look, don't put me in this controversy. Everyone will say that you don't find any Indian man. She wants to say this.

We want to know.

Desi men are like this.

No, no. Priyanka Chopra. Look at Jonas. He is doing Instagram as Jija Ji. He has become the J-law of our country. Which songs do you viral? Sajan Sajan Teri Dulhan Sajaan

No, it's like that.

I think those three brothers are on Priyanka's songs. They are the same.

They are the same. Yes, I can see the difference. Nick Jonas's song has 2 million, 3 million views. Priyanka's song has 35 million views.

The whole India.

He's very cute. Priyanka's song has 35 million views all over India. Celebrities also. Jija Ji.

He is very cute. He is very endearing. Actually, because he is not in a popular field. Otherwise, people from badminton world also start calling him Jija Ji. Because he trained Chirag and Satwik from one Olympic to the other. He became our national coach.

Start making some Instagram Reels now.

That's what I was worried about. I can't make it myself. I can't make anyone else do it. I think... I don't know. I didn't compare. The difference between Desi and Videshi.

So tell me. The kids who hit the line, they must have been possessive. Is he possessive or a little moderate?

I met him 13 years ago. So, the boys I dated before him, they are of early age, they have a different kind of behavior, both boys and girls. So, yes, at that time, I didn't think I could take anything in my life without asking permission. I could move ahead of them, but not them. Because if I move ahead of them, then there will be a problem that I am moving ahead in the wrong way.

Because it was not acceptable that a girl could be more successful than a boy. It is still on a large scale. Yes, I mean, now I am with this person for 13 years, so I don't know, now around, it can't be with me, right? I didn't ask the people around me, but I had experienced this problem first-hand.

So, as people say these days, you go on big ships. This ship, that ship.

Yes, now all this is new. Situation ship, that ship, mind ship. I didn't understand this either. I was very old school. I had clarity after the first and second date that we will move ahead. If it seems that the matter can be reached till the wedding, otherwise don't waste effort.

You have to know that, like people say that first time you saw, you fell in love. Second time everything happened in the second time. In that, for 13 years, you were with a guy, kept it a secret.

No one kept it a secret.

You didn't tell anyone about the marriage.

I'm not releasing the press, that doesn't mean I kept it a secret.

So what was special about Jija Ji?

What was the effect?

Jija Ji never let me feel the was in a bond. After marriage, so many people have asked me, how is it after marriage? I said, honestly, I almost forget sometimes I'm married because I don't feel anything extra. That it was like this before and now it's like this. My condition was also that if everything can stay the same,

then only we get married.

And you have to come to the country and shift.

Yes, you will be sent off. See how much I have plotted and planned. I have been trying to trap him for 13 years. He will come to India and train us. We will bring medals for him.

We have to increase the talent of the country.

Yes, so we are a bit… We liked each other logically. And then we decided that it seems like we can stay together for a long time. We will still make an effort because long distance is very difficult.

And I won't be able to come, you will have to come.

No, I also went. Don't say that.

I won't be able to come permanently.

I won't be able to stay permanently. Anyway, his life has been going from one place to another because of the higher time tournaments. So, I think he was okay with that.

Were you scared?

No, no, of course not. Otherwise, I wouldn't have married. I would have married an equal. I have also experienced this in the previous relationships that if someone is like, I say day, then day, and if I say night, then night.

We boys agree?

No, it shouldn't be like that. The day I started seeing that it seems like before I say anything, he should agree. Then it's not equals. It needs to be a relationship of equals. It's not like, whatever I say, you close your eyes and agree.

It shouldn't be like that. So this is that relationship of equals.

I remember one movie. I have put the question ahead. It will be spoiled. I am leaving it. But still, why did you hide the wedding? You didn't hide it. You didn't show your photos. The world is in chaos. People are flaunting the same kind of saris.

Everyone is laughing. I always have a question in my mind. Which joke does the priest make at the wedding that everyone is laughing?

That's also a very good question. I didn't think it was necessary to release the press. You didn't think it was necessary to show the photos? I didn't think it was necessary.

You even told everyone not to release the photos.

I told everyone not to take any photos. I am a photographer and you will get a proper QR code. You will get all the photos. All my guests have all the photos. I am in one of them and my husband. But they were sensible enough to not do it. So why should we do it?

We have seen marriages where people sell their weddings to Netflix and Sony.

Yes, there is a lot of money there.

You get money for this too.

Yes, you get a lot for this. I could have sent my wedding on international Netflix. But no. I think it happens. The way I have seen that marriages are held in which you invite your close ones. And it's not like you put a photo on the notice board of every society that we are married. You didn't do that in your childhood, right? I haven't seen it.

So I said, the people who had to be told, they came. What does my profession have to do with my marriage?

What was the cultural shock for Mathias Babu?

There is a new one every day every day. I think even today...

What was the weirdest thing in food, clothing, culture, touching feet? What did he think was this?

Actually... I don't know, you've gone so far that I'm forgetting. I think there's very little touching feet in Sardar's. I've touched feet so much... You're giving examples. I'm thinking, you giving a good example. I was comparing that it happened or not.

The small turmeric was so much for him. His entire family was in shock. Why is he doing this? What is this turmeric? They were in shock. They were not coming to us to apply turmeric on our face.

What is this happening? Till date, after watching the wedding video, they are in the same confusion. Why was this happening? What was, after watching the wedding video, they are in the same confusion that why was this happening? What was this? This was so crazy.

How can anyone dance without alcohol? They are shocked at this point as well because it is not necessary for us. We just have to play the song and we start dancing. They are saying that you have to have a few glasses of wine and only then you start dancing. I said no. Here you get up, you get ready and you start dancing. I said no, here you get up, you get ready and you start dancing.

So this was also a very big shock for the entire Danish family. I think all of them flew in specially to see how a desi wedding is. They tell me that it was a lifetime experience. So I thought, all my money that I had spent, it was successful. They remembered my wedding. Did you teach them Bhangla? I made them dance on the entire wedding procession. My entire white wedding procession came and they danced to all the songs.

Now it will come in the comment section that Tapsee is dancing to her husband's tunes.

Oh no, that's the best thing. Neither me nor my husband read the comments. We are so happy and detached from all these things in our world that thankfully I don't have to study. So how did you decide to get married?

What was the stage in your life? Because everyone is scared of marriage now. I did a podcast with Neena ji. I thought of doing it, but I said, leave it, we won't do it. She asked me, why do you get married? I said, for companionship.

No, not companionship.

You won't have a friend. Why? for a relationship, no companionship, you won't have a friend, why? Tell me, let's do it for sex. I kept looking at her, she said, yes, nothing else happens, everything else happens, everything else happens in friends. So I got shocked, I was a little behind. So now I'm asking you, Tafsi who has been in a relationship for 14 years, now happily married, she's so happy. A random person who is listening, what are you thinking, will you confirm or get married? Everyone in my family knew about it. It's been 10 years since we've been together. Actually, we were engaged for 9 years.

Because he proposed to me after a year of our relationship. So, I thought, let's get married before the world's longest engagement. Because who waits for 9 years between engagement and marriage? It's been 10 years.

My brother must be a decent man. I hope so. What was the most shocking thing you saw in the Epstein file? I mean, I was blown away when I saw Bill Gates and Hawking's name.

I was like, what is he doing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has made so many bad memes. I mean, I don't understand. Should I feel bad or laugh at what is being made? No, I was shocked by a statement. There is a lot going on in the world. I was not shocked by Donald Trump wasn't shocked at all. One thing that was shocking to me was the statement of the Norwegian diplomat. It had nothing to do with Epstein Files.

It was a statement that if you have to kill between a snake and an Indian, kill a snake. That was a statement made by a Norwegian diplomat. If I'm not wrong, I think so. That was a very shocking one. Like, that was something that caught my attention.

And again, where were all the girls disappearing? The ones who talk big about human rights.

Of course.

The biggest part.

So it's not just the actors who have to maintain a different image and different personal life.

It's all of them.

All of them.

All business people, all politicians.

Businessmen, politicians, diplomats, all across the world. So they are bigger actors than a lot of us actors.

There's a dialogue in page three movie ki ye Mumbai ye ghatar hai, band rahe tabhi baithar hai. Epstein file ko leke mein ko ye hi laga ki jab toh nahi pata tha, hum baithar thi.

Pata lagne ke baad, someone like Bill Gates. There was a time, a few weeks ago, that every morning, Trump sir used to make a new statement. So, you are every day waking up to like, what did he say today? Now, this has happened with Epstein Files. Every day you wake up and you are finding, what was his name? What was he doing? What did he do?

Every day you are waking up to so many names that honestly, I have lost track of how many countries' diplomats or royalties or politicians were involved in it. Because every day there are new names being brought up.

Meaning, you don't know who is whose wife, who is whose husband, who is whose child. So much... And then you think, how are we so behind? I mean, who are these people? This is not the actual meme that who are these people, where do these people come from?

Yes, yes, yes. You can give up believing. What you are seeing is actually what you are getting or there is some other story behind it. You will never be able to guess.

The tricks of the rich.

Rich.

Or do this, the tricks of powerful people.

I mean, rich people are not rich people with 150 crores.

Yes, you can say that. So, I suddenly felt very poor after this statement.

Okay. I suddenly felt very poor after this statement. I felt poor because you told your husband that your money is mine.

Yes, so what's the point of poverty in this?

Why not spend? You must be earning more.

No, but what happened to you?

You called him here and then you said that you won't give him money.

I am not giving him money.

No, we don't do this kind of dealings. It happens that if I am in in Denmark, he spends in Euros. If he's in India, it's in Rupees.

If he spends more there, he'll spend less here.

Look, I'll spend in Rupees, he'll spend in Euros. You can calculate the rest.

And then the husband says, he doesn't listen to everything. He doesn't get it.

We're saving our own. He can handle his area, I will take care of mine.

I am earning more in India, so I will do the same here. But normally in families, like it happened in your mom and dad, marriage means, mine and yours. It wasn't like, from today all the streets are yours, from today this and that is yours. So why was this thought process necessary in that?

No, I didn't want it. All the properties of India that I have bought after marriage, are in my name. And the foreign properties that he has bought, are in his name.

Why is that?

Because you were careful about the future?

That if something happens, it will be like that?

No, no, there is a lot of trust.

I am asking this question because I have a doctor friend. He got a tattoo done on his arm. It was his son's tattoo. I asked his wife, who is his husband's tattoo artist. I asked the doctor, who is a very famous doctor. He is my friend. I asked him, why did you get your son's tattoo done?

Why didn't you get your wife's tattoo done? He said, the child will always be mine. Baccha hamesha mera rahega. How mean! And I was like shit, I'm happily married, bohot pyaar karta hu main, but shubhankar, baccha hamesha mera rahega.

This is too practical. Nahi main itna practically nahi socha. Kaafi logon hai na, shadi karte time bhi, sign karte hoon paper ye while getting married that you should get married under Indian court because here women are more favoured. If there is an issue in the marriage, if you do it outside, then you know, if you are earning more than the settlements, you might lose more. I thought, if something like this is going to happen in my marriage,

then I'm already doomed. If this thing gets to this point. So, I didn't find this way of thinking to be right.

But like you have this thought process, that what I'm earning is mine, what you're earning is yours. Money doesn't involve, money ruins things. Self-respect sometimes damages or there are many issues. If there is individuality, we can be happy together. There is no pressure.

Can this happen in the life of normal Indians or is this also the problem of the rich?

I hope so, especially for girls. I have adopted a few hundred girls for education under Nani Kali. My eventual motive is to make them as independent as possible. They can study as much as they want. So that they don't have to get married at a point where they are dependent on someone else. And they will take care of them.

And what if they stop taking care of them?

That's why in the olden days, women used to suffer from extra marital affairs. Or they used to suffer from beatings.

Yes, where will you go now? Who will you go to? So, I shouldn't be in this situation. If anything happens, you are with him because you want to be with him. Not because you have no other choice.

So, girls should marry when they are financially stable.

Yes, 100%. Before that, you should love as much as you can. Yes, you shouldn't.

Pause.

Yes.

Be patient. And watch the next one.

Watch the next one. Wait for the person who will respect you so much that he can wait for you.

Why doesn't the society respect independent women? Because one perception that we have heard from the back is that getting married to strong women is a big issue.

Did Neena ji say this?

A lot of people said this.

I heard this in one of their interviews.

That there are a lot of issues, a lot of conditions, a lot of complications. That's why I asked them a question. That men usually marry women a little below them. Do you believe men have issues with strong independent women? There are issues universally with strong independent women have issues with men?

There are issues universally with strong independent women. I didn't want to talk about this on this podcast. But I feel that our country is not ready yet to accept a girl who knows her work enough, who knows how to handle themselves independently I don't think we are ready to appreciate, look, worship our hero we are not ready to do that with a girl because I have seen so many times that

news comes in the comment section news comes but when you see a video and sometimes a comment comes below it without clicking that this is a comment I read a few things that she talks like she knows a lot she knows everything people are not people don't like women who know what they're talking. They want someone to save them. Someone to guide them.

Pran Nath.

It was said in the animal movie. It was said in the animal movie that alpha males used to hunt and take care of females. Then they became poets. Then sweet boys came who became poets. They would break the moon and stars. Then they got trapped. But alpha males... Then there were poets, sweet boys who became poets, who would break the moon and stars.

Then girls started falling for him.

I don't agree with a lot of things.

So men can't tolerate that women are in their tongues.

I don't think it's only about men. I think now women too, without knowing, subconsciously, have accepted that the girl who comes to the forefront, who knows how to be more impartial,

will break the house.

That's wrong. That's not right for anyone. That's not right for the society.

Because the mother-in-law was also a daughter-in-law.

I'm telling you, it happens. Some women don't accept this. Because the things they are taught...

Because they saw the same, and they accepted it as normal. Yes, exactly. Exactly. She doesn't question it. I did a podcast about GB Road in Delhi. They said that the women who are the heads there are the ones who torture, give drugs, get high, beat up. But these are the women who went through all this and later became a movement.

So they thought this is normal.

So if you ask anyone today, why don't you like this girl? She talks a lot. But if the same thing is said by a person, you will say how well spoken, how much he knows, he speaks very well. If I sit like this, I don't know, you tell me.

They like it so much, although I tell you the industry itself, how many times we are told that if you play such a role, which is front-footed and always takes charge in your hands, then the audience won't like you.

You will be helpless.

There is a movie called Reese With a Spoon. In one of her speeches, she showed a collage in which all the actresses speak on screen in their dialogues. Looking at the man, what can I do? What do I do? What do I do?

What do I do? She has created a great collage of different women. I thought, who among all of them, and all of you sitting in the audience, how many women look at the man and ask, you tell me what do I do? No one.

But we really like this image. aurat hai wo aankhe pooshe hi, aap hi batayiye kya karoon, mujhe toh patayi nahi, aap mujhe bachalijiye, toh aapko bahut pasand kya jayega. The moment you make them feel like you have

it under control, aapki zindagi aapki control se chalthil ek sawal mere zain mein aagaya. Main podcast ke ismein ek line aayi thi. Kisi insaan ne kaha ki rishta chalane ke liye doh mein se ek insaan ko bewaqoof banna padhta hai.

Agar dono samajhdaar ho gaye, To save the relationship or to avoid any further issues, you need to be a little more sensible. Stay calm for 2 minutes and then discuss it again. But for now, stay calm.

But don't be a fool.

Don't be a fool. You need to be a little more sensible for that time.

I think the movie was on the old thought process.

Yes.

There is one more line. I will come to the film after this. Someone said, Don't run after love. Get the power. Everyone should get the power in today's world.

Love will be found automatically. Do you believe when you see your old Tapsi Pannu? The power... She was calling me from the phone booth Babu, hello Babu I didn't call him Babu but

I cried a lot Shakti comes and goes If she leaves, then your love for her will also leave I feel that I feel Shakti the most because My love for her

Whether it's my family Husband or whatever I do Beyond just being an actor is so genuine, real and stable that I don't have any insecurity about anything. I don't care if the movie doesn't work, I'll do it again.

Even if this doesn't work, I'll do it again.

I'm done with the dialogue. Boycott me. Yes, boycott me.

Yes. Actually, people in our country don't understand the humour. Every kind of humour.

The big shots don't take your boycott seriously. When I put it up, Tapsi is being interviewed. Ask Tapsi, will she say it? Boycott it again.

No, my understanding from that moment was that our humour is not the same. And you should crack this only among those who understand. And you should not crack jokes on camera. Because I have had sarcastic humour since childhood.

Typical Delhi humour which is very harsh and sarcastic. Do whatever you want. By default, it comes out. Because as I said, I am not servicing an image. This is who I am.

This is what I do. And it's an open book.

So, did you regret that statement?

I regret that I shouldn't have said my sense of humor without a disclaimer.

Did someone stop you from doing it?

No, no one stopped me. Because people think that if we say that, then they will start to insult us more. People don't correct me like that. I myself realized that I should think of it as a joke.

But like Shahrukh is a little witty, you are a little witty, both of you are from Delhi. Both have their sarcasm. But many times people see it in arrogance. Exactly.

Like I hear Shahrukh, I'm the last of the superstars. I asked the same question to Sir on set. I said, Sir, you will understand what I am going through. How many times you must have done it. I have seen the jokes on which I have clapped for you while growing up. I know people have trolled you a lot for those jokes. But I liked liked it. So tell me, how do you get through this phase?

People don't understand that it was a joke. So he also wanted to say that the people you joke in front of, their joke should have the same wavelength. So your joke is working.

I read the stories.

He has read it too.

Exactly.

There was a scene where you were snoring at night. He said, you ask a boy. I will answer him. He came to me and

everybody was like... There are so many things. We say it without thinking.

It doesn't even cross our minds. He didn't say it ask both the girls? You asked a guy, he asked and he bluntly said,

I can't think straight.

I can see him saying that and it is so funny. I can understand that humour. But not everyone can. So keep your humour in front of those people who can understand it.

So you don't want to get it boycotted?

No, no, please don't boycott. Watch my movies. I am not joking. I haven't made any jokes in the movie.

You were with Anubhav Sinha then and this time too.

No, no, no. I was with Anurag then. Oh, you were with Anurag. Matlab kya karna hai dono ka? Match karana hai dono ka arm wrestling kya ho? Na puch raha ho ghar kisi ek ko choose karna hoon.

Kyuki main thoda tough tough daal hai.

Nahi yaar, main ek ko nahi choose kar sakti. Mere kuch directors... Aap mini filmography dekhe toh meri poori... Mera poori career hi in directors ki wajah se chal raha hai. I don't have a background. But there is a counter question to this too. Like, you came as an outsider. You always said that you worked hard.

Now you have become an insider.

Where did I become an insider?

Like Anurag sir, Anurag Kashyap, Anbhav sir. They are working with you on multiple projects. And you have your own group, friendship, bonding. So, you are an outsider. Who is looking at you randomly. So, how will you explain to an outsider that this is not groupism and what we were thinking was groupism? Because now you guys have become friends.

I don't have a problem with insiders, even if they are giving successful films with a director. Or your performance is being praised by a specific director. Like, I'll give you an example. Alia worked in Gangubai. What a great job she did. She got the next film with the same director. What a great job she did.

No one will say that she got the job again because of nepotism. Because she is Mahesh Bhatt's daughter. It's because they worked together. It was a successful relationship of director-actor. They work again. If you're getting work again because of this logic, because you're a successful couple as professionals,

I don't think there's any problem in that. The problem is when you get opportunities from time to time, and those opportunities come out of our pool.

Like Vineet Singh told me that Shahid's brother, I used to take him around with me, I used to feed him around with me. I have fed Alia in my lap.

Oh God!

And now, Dead and Well, they are making films, still making better money than me, and I am still struggling.

Yes, yes.

How much will you get? That's right, we have to prove in every film. We don't have that, now you have arrived, now you enjoy the stardom.

You can't touch your tongue on your nose.

I can't actually.

I don't have such a long tongue.

Although, Nepo vs Nepophyte is fun.

Really?

Yes, we just saw one. The two people you mentioned. It was a beautiful video where Alia ignored Ananya. And then people recalled that in Coffee with Karan, she said something that my IQ is better. And she said that I remember the names of the country's prime ministers.

Yeah, I will give the benefit of doubt of humor there. Sorry, but I'll tell you, this problem, not this one exactly, but outsiders versus outsiders. I believe that we don't support each other much. Because we have become so used to hustle that we just do anything,

we just make our place by doing anything. That we can do whatever we want.

You guys keep fighting among yourselves.

That's what I'm saying, outsiders don't support outsiders. We all say that we don't have the power, we don't have the backing. But you fight amongst yourselves.

Like Kangana and Tapsee Pannu's fight is famous all over the world.

I don't know when I fought. I fought when two people were fighting. I never fought. You tell me, I have never spoken a single word against her.

Her sister called you a cheap copy.

Her sister. So what did I say in return? Do you remember? Do you remember? I can remind you. Yes, yes. That yes, I don't earn as much as she does. So I am cheap.

And she is such a great actress. I have no problem in being called a copy of her.

You can take out any statement of mine. But you both are strong women. I like Kangana's queen. I have met Kangana in real life. Although she herself said that she also enjoys creating problems. When she is idle, she enjoys creating problems on Twitter. In real life, she doesn't feel like talking to anyone. She is also a nice lady when I met her.

She lived a very good life. She was more you too. But when you fight amongst yourselves, no one ever said that if you two would have come together, it would have been a great power. Because the films that you have done, like I watch your film, I watch PING,

I like your PING a lot. I was shaken up seeing the slap. I never thought that. Man Marzi Aapki Mujhe is one of my best films. I like Badla a lot. I feel you, Kangana, or the outsiders who made their films on Bollywood, and are doing female-centric films,

didn't your fight give those nepo kids a benefit?

I don't know about them, but someone must have got some benefit. Because I don't think, obviously I said there is no fight from my side, but I do think that someone has said something there that doesn't want us to come together. Because it must have been anticipated that if we come together, then something great might happen.

Can I do a prank?

Huh?

Can I do a prank?

Do it, bro.

I am friends with Kangana, will you do it?

Of course, I always said that whenever I meet her, I will definitely go and say, technically she is my senior, why wouldn't I go up to her and respectfully say hi or hello to her? I don't have a guarantee of what her response will be. I can take my own behavior guarantee.

You don't have anything in your heart?

No, I actually don't have anything. Do political views differentiate? I don't care if they are. Let me be general.

There is a director whose political ideology you don't match. He is completely different. He calls you to come and film.

Will you do it?

Of course I will. We will show the script first.

If you know the script.

100%. This won't be the difference. This happened. I won't give names, I'll just tell you that there is a director who called me, whose script I read. And I didn't refuse the script because of the director or his ideology. I told him in the script that I don't think I can do these things properly or I don't understand,

so I don't want to do this. And I didn't think for a second about his ideology. I should enjoy working with him. He belongs to any ideology. I don't care. But actors also see what is in the script

or just watch the role.

Or they watch what role is there. Both. First you have to see whether the script is working or not. If the picture is a flop and you have done a great job, no one will ask you. So there is no need to waste energy.

Ranveer Singh played a role in Dhurandar. Hrithik Roshan said that he doesn't support it politically. But it is a great film. Later, YRF praised it. Many people believe that the ideology of Deepika is a complete contrast to the one shown in Dhurandar. But Ranveer won it.

The film was a big hit. Part 2 is also coming. Again, Ranveer Singh the hero is back in the market. So, is there a film in which you are ideologically not fitting? Will you do it?

If I like the script, I like the role.

You like the role, but it is possible that ideologically there are some things that you are not matching.

What are the ideological things? If you like the script. Like in Dhurandar, he enters the house and beats people. I haven't actually seen the film, but I have understood that a lot of people have said that this kind of violence is wrong to show or is not right to show. I actually don't agree with that. If you are making a film of this kind of universe, where you put your life in danger, then obviously that film is going to be violent. What are you anticipating in that film? But how will you decide whether it's right or wrong?

Because people have seen it.

I don't decide based on people. I decide based on myself. Who would have picked up this film after seeing my filmography? Who would have been the one? Why would a 60-year-old woman play a role in Saanjh Ke Aankhe? If I had to think about how people would see me. When I was young enough to romance, I became a grandmother.

I don't think about what people would think of my image. I just want to see if they would enjoy watching this film or not.

I have a very good question. All the big actors and actresses in Bollywood, all of them were heroes. All the heroines have retired. Either they were sent to the sidelines, or they are playing the role of their elder sister. to people are happy, married men, their wives are actresses, if someone

makes a mistake, we get abused.

So this is the same double standard that you were talking about some time ago. And we are the same people who sit on the keyboard and abuse people, age gap, this, this, blah, blah. But if a film comes of a woman who was a heroine of the same age, You are not even considering her an equal. You don't give her an equal opportunity. You don't get equal screens.

You don't get equal shows. So, you...

So, if a married male actor does an intense scene, people don't complain. If a married female actor does an intense scene, people say, what kind of a woman is she? Why did she get married?

This was told to me in the beginning of my career by a very famous director. Look, there are two things. First, never play the role of a vamp. Otherwise, you won't be called a heroine. And second, never have an affair in the industry. No one should know if you have an affair.

Because if someone sees you from your sister-in-law's point of view, they will not be able to imagine you like the heroine. I remembered a heroine, whom we call Bhabhi.

She was my favorite actor.

So, he said, this will be your image of Bhabhi. How can we see her as a brother's wife? It means that until you don't see all the heroines with that perspective, she is not a heroine for you.

Now, let's come to your filmography. I really like your films, especially the ones about the society. Because after the film ends, I have something in my mind. And as a human being, I started thinking there. I learned to be a better person. I took it as a normal thing. Like Pink. So, no means no.

It was very heart-warming. Because we used to believe that sometimes, a woman's name is also a yes.

It's a tantrum.

Or sometimes, a woman makes a noise. You could have said it with love, even with a smile. Why did you have to create such a scene? Where does pink stand in your life? And someone said, why did you have to fight so much? You have revolutionized it.

Pink is the picture that put me on the map. After that, my relevance started to grow in the industry. The pink girl. I used to hear people saying that pink girl, that pink girl. So, the credit to establish my identity

in the industry goes to the pink girl.

So, you became a high copy of a cheap copy.

I don't know. I think I became a cheap copy after that. After that?

You were Mr. Bachchan was there, you were there.

No, it has nothing to do with the statement of being a cheap copy.

But like they say, the girl who has bad values, is the one who should bow down. Usually, parents say the same. People who create problems are not sensible. Was it easy to explain this at home?

The portrait you did. Was it easy to get a phone call? Did you ever get a phone call? Like a slap or a pinch? Was it difficult to get acceptance at home?

I don't try to get acceptance.

Did you ever get a phone call?

No, I heard from my relatives. There was a slap.

Then they broke the house.

The child was about to be born. He should have gone back. I thought, the child would have done the same thing when he grew up. He would have slapped his wife. Or if it was a girl, she would have been slapped. I had one slap for you, if ten slaps were bad for you. You can watch the movie with this in mind. So I have seen this while listening to women.

Some of my acquaintances called me and said, very good performance. But you know that one slap was little like... I said, your standards must be more than one. I had only one. It's possible that there are women for whom there is only one. So, she was wrong, you are right. Who said that?

I mean, I heard a lot that the case was fought, everything was fought. But everybody was like, she should have forgiven him in the end. But she doesn't forgive him.

Yes, because she didn't apologize. When she finally apologized, the boy had already been divorced. By then, it was time for her to say it herself, that she will earn you back. That was the beauty of writing of Anubhav Sir. That he said there that

now I will earn you back. So, to show that beauty, that how many times we take it for granted in a relationship, we don't even say sorry. True. So it wasn't just about a slap. The thing was, what did you do to fix it after that?

We don't say sorry, we say love you.

Yes.

When did you say love you to your husband last time?

Every day.

Babushka.

No, today I have sent him a very cute meme on Instagram. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. We were not that kind of romantic couple. But people say that men are made for their favorite women and women for their favorite men.

Babushona is not liked. I will show you some middle classness of Valentine's Day. What happened today. It happened today morning. So I was shown that this bag of Dior is a special collection for Valentine's Day. Because he knows I like to spend money on a couple of things in my life.

One of them is bags. So he said to me, I'll gift this to you on Valentine's Day. If you are nice to me, I'll give you this for Valentine's Day. So I said, don't. It is too expensive.

And I have the same color bag already. So you can see, I said, don't give me this one, I have the color one. So I will see if I like something else, I will forward it to you, buy it for me. But don't give me this now. So this was our Valentine's Day discussion.

Nice. Even now, like it was in pink, it was about clothes. Like I was talking about Nina ji now. So Nina ji is very different now. She doesn't care about what the world thinks. She is wearing one piece.

She is enjoying her life.

Yeah.

But the comment section was full of research. How does Rekha ji wear clothes? Do you still think that people still judge you by your clothes?

Yes, of course. They judge any girl. Even if she is of my age or Nina's age or younger than me. People judge you by your clothes. Instagram is all about pictures. Judging is our right from birth.

If we see a picture or video on Instagram, how can we miss our birthright to judge? This is a joke. Disclaimer, it's a sarcastic joke.

But kids are born from women.

Yes.

So why are these values going into them? Because the complaints that women have, why can't they fix them in the next generation? Because all women suffer.

Because we don't see them as complaints. We feel that this is the problem. And we live in a patriarchal household where this is considered right. We transfer the same things to others. And we all came from there. It's not like I was very liberated from childhood. I never had any doubts about my clothes.

This is not right. Don't wear this. Don't wear that. We all came from there. Someone has to say change. Someone needs to get personal.

In the film, slap is considered love in our society. Many times people say that we show anger to the one we love. We show right to that person. I slapped you because I loved you. In relationships, where should the borderline be drawn? That no, this will not be tolerated.

When the other person has to lose his respect in that relationship, in the sense like, you are slapping him, is that love for you? Is that love for the other person as well? Or is he just lowering his self-respect and taking it in that he said it out of love, so I agree. That's wrong. If he feels love for him, then yes, you can keep getting slapped. There's nothing wrong with that. But if you feel disrespected by him, then that's wrong.

What are the red flags and green flags for Tapsee Pannu in relationships? For me, the sense of security was the most important. I don't feel the burden of that relationship. That at every step, I have to ask everything, I have to tell everything, there will be a discussion on it, I can never take a step ahead of them in life, and you can't have your own personal life.

In personal life, I don't understand the concept of two bodies and one soul. They are separate bodies, separate souls. Separate bodies, separate souls.

Your money is yours, my money is mine.

Does it cost?

Your money is mine, my money is yours, my money is mine.

I wish this were the case, but it's not.

If both of them don't grow individually, if there is no circle of friends, if both have different things in their hands, then it's scary.

So if I mention 4-5 things in your relationship, what is the top priority?

Self-respect, mutual effort, good sex, in your relationship? Yes, okay. If it's a little bit, then what is the point of respect? Then say the rest. This is the first priority. The rest also matters. Self-respect. Then you said mutual effort. The ways of showing love. That also has sex in it. Because otherwise, without sex, love is wrong. And people will run here and there. And if it's not happening, then maybe something is not right.

And after that, whatever other things you have, I told you this is my top priority.

Did your family start troubling you for the kids? No one troubled you? Who will do all this to you anyway?

They are saying, do whatever you want. Everything is fine. They are saying, when we got you BTEC, you did the job willingly, you got married willingly, so you are a good kid, I am telling you. You think he's sincere? Okay, okay. You think he's sincere? Okay, go. Great. Badla.

There was a dialogue in Badla that I really liked. I think 6 and 9 are the same. It's a difference of opinion. Tapsi Pannu is always 9 in the eyes of the world.

Strong.

Okay.

Did 6 ever come in her?

100%? 100%? I'm a human being. Otherwise, I would have considered myself God. No, I am very 6 or 3.

Do you have another version?

Like I told Neena ji, I told you, other women think that such strong independent women should be there.

No, no.

But she was very soft from inside. She said, this was just a need of mine, that I needed it for survival.

This is what happens. If I don't become strong, then who becomes strong for me? I feel that sometimes I become harsh, sometimes I sound a little rough, because my life has made me like that. First of all, you are in Delhi, where you have to wear your protection on your shoulders every day. If you have to go to school, college, go out, go somewhere, then someone is talking to you properly, you are first of all,

what does he want from me? Why is he talking to me nicely? You're too over cautious, right? So, it makes you a little harsh and a little doubtful. You've come into an industry whose image is obviously not good, where you have to stand up for yourself again. My family doesn't know anyone, so I have to protect myself, because if my family doesn't, they'll say, come back, there's no need to do all this.

So, it makes you a little harsh. Then, you have to protect myself. Because if my family doesn't know, they'll say, come back, there's no need to do all this. So that makes you a little harsh. Then you don't get opportunities, you have to fight for yourself for everything. To get that one opportunity, to get the deserving chance,

you have to constantly fight with every film. It makes you slightly rough and harsh from the outside. Have you ever felt like being weak? All the time, everyday.

What kind of weak Tapsee is she?

She is the kind of person who rants in front of her sister or her husband. That no one cares about her. No one wants to listen to her. But you know, as I said, I won't bring her in front of me.

Because no one wants to see her. She has only one husband. She doesn't have to repeat it. She has only one husband. You can tell her. I can tell her. I have only one sister.

I can tell her.

She will be happy.

There is no harm in that.

No, madam. I am saying that strong women, don't think that they are strong all the time. You've only seen their side. If they are not weak, then they don't feel the need to be strong. We had to become strong. We didn't have an option.

Okay. We saw in Badla that sometimes stubbornness blinds you. So, did you draw a Lakshmi Mataka in your life for success? That I won't do this in life.

Which I did not sleep well at night.

What are those things?

I mean, I have nothing higher than my self-respect. I don't want to do anything except that. Because I always feel that I have done B.Tech. I am not like that, if I don't get a job here, I will not stay anywhere. Or no one will give me a job. We both got jobs in Infosys. Yes, I have kept the appointment data.

I didn't join when I got the job.

I didn't do it either. I have kept the contract.

I showed it to my dad and told him to give it a try.

Same. Ditto.

Because after 9 months, I have to join.

8-10 months. I got a job and I said, my work is done. I had said for MBA. And I said, let me try. If it works, then it's fine. I'll do MBA.

I had also said, let me do it once. If not, I'll do whatever you say.

Same, same.

I agreed to everything. I said, let me do it once.

Same.

I had gone after watching 3DET. No, I had said it do you have a boundary line? In any role or in anything. Or in success, we will not do this. Like Sachin Tendulkar never added Paan Masala.

Yes.

His was that the money was good, but it's okay.

There are many such things. Let me tell you one thing. My logic is, how much success is too much success. After which level of success will you feel secure? You will feel that it's enough. There is no limit to this. So I have stopped running behind that.

After being so successful, I have arrived. I have not been able to sleep peacefully at night. Whether it's my endorsements, my film choices, my roles, my stand on things. If I feel that I have done something wrong for my personal favor. I won't be able to sleep at night. I won't be able to see myself in the mirror. I am happy with less success.

I am not happy with standing against myself.

You mentioned consent in Pink. In Assi, everything is happening. Everything is happening ahead of it. While making this film, when we talk about rape victims, it is often said that the body was ripped off, but the soul was killed. When this film came to you, I'm sure you must have read a lot of stories,

must have heard people's stories, must have been in the courtroom scenes. Did anything ever happen that left you so worried that you couldn't sleep? As you were saying, you were restless. Is there anything that you can't sleep after watching this film?

There is a scene in this film, I remember I was in a flight and I read the script. I closed the script and I was like, I can't read it now. I will read it after some time. Then I took some time and opened it again after half an hour. And then I started reading. Then reaching the end, obviously, because it is a film

which has a victorious end, so you feel victorious and happy in the end. But that scene that you will see when you watch the film, so that you will...

I had a scene in the teaser in which they say something, then you say Judge Sahiba, Judge Sahiba also says and then the 6 year old girl is mentioned.

Yes. No sir, that's nothing. You watch the movie. So, reading it, you think I didn't even watch the movie. I just read it in the script and I stopped it. I said, I am in a bad mood now, reading it. So, such things haunt a lot. So, the way you feel that these movies will be with you

after you leave the theatre, the way you felt my movies, this movie will also haunt you after you leave.

Why did you normalize rape in India?

Because the number has increased so much. Because now it seems that if your data is coming from above 80, reported, then it's done. Like there is a line in the movie, that 81 days, that is, in a year, can fill a stadium. Now think about the visual.

A stadium is filled with rape accused. This is a year's data, reported. And you are allowing the society to do this.

My urgent question is that we all take out candles, post status on Instagram, WhatsApp, and talk about big things on Twitter. But if there is a rape victim around us, if we know that there is a rape victim in our neighborhood, our perspective is not the same as it is on social media.

Yes, it is not.

I am sure those who will watch the video, they will visualize that there is the victim is in their neighbourhood. And then they will see their behaviour on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube or whatever they were talking about.

Yes, because many people think that we are overcompensating. In overcompensation, we forget that we are reminding them every day that something has happened to them, something wrong has happened to her. This is an overcompensating type of behavior. And some people say, if you hadn't done this, this wouldn't have happened. Now don't let this happen next time. If she had done this at night, if she had worn that instead of this, then...

So, you get to hear such things constantly around you. And if you reach social media, you are doomed If you read the comments below the news God forbid, if something like this ever happened to you And if the news was reported And if he accidentally read the comments below

I don't think that person will be able to get out of that car. Because blaming the accused, the victim in different fashion is so rampant around us. When we go out to find fault, we don't think that... Recently I shared in my story that if you go out in such clothes at night, you are saying that you are being invited. So, the boy got a little excited. What happened in this?

A Baba told me a story. He is quite famous on Instagram. He asked me to tell a story. There was a boy. He was going somewhere. He saw a girl on the way.

The boy was wearing less clothes. He thought of something. I went ahead, it was a dark road, I saw a girl. She started teasing me. Now Shubhankar, tell me who is wrong? I said, boy.

He said, only boy. It's not the girl's fault. The thought came from there, that what I saw there, if that thought had not come, this incident wouldn't have happened. And there was a lot of debate on this. And when I took a stand on these things, a large part of the society told me that, Shubhankar, what you are saying is good even for a drawing room. In real life, reality is very different from this.

If you are naked on the road, you will roam around half-naked, you can see your cleavage, then you should accept that you are giving an invitation. Whoever gets it, will get a kick.

Shivam, think about it. You are a man. If you feel this way in front of you, then think about it.

This is a podcast.

This is not a drawing board.

But I think some people give statements for attention, eyeball and shock value.

It is possible. But there are thousands who came and I read them.

So, I am talking about those thousands. Imagine, they're saying this to you, you're a man. Imagine what women get to hear every day, that how many things are wrong with you. If this happened to you, then how many ways were you wrong? You hear this every day.

I'm telling you, I was afraid that if I say that someone touched me like this on the bus, they would say, don't go to college for a few days. If I hear something like this, if I say something like this, don't go here. Relatives tease you. At home.

Uncles refuse to tell you that you'll be insulted at home.

So many child abuse cases. In fact, I know some people who have been abused by a family member. Tafsi is with two out of three or four boys. It happens with boys too. I know.

And the uncle, the grandfather.

I know people like this. And in more than 90% of cases, the family members do it. And the family members refuse to do it. Yes, that the family's reputation should not be exposed. We will sort it out here. It will be sorted at home. If there is rape in a village,

the panchayat will sit together and sort it out. Otherwise, the boy's life will be ruined. What happened with the girl was wrong. It happened. Boys make mistakes.

Now, the girl's reputation is ruined. Get her married. Now, the girl's reputation has to be restored.

Rape victims are told to rape and get married. Now, the people won't come back. They tell rape victims to rape and get married.

These are the Panchayat's decisions. Now, she will see that rapist as her husband for the rest of her life. This is a lifetime punishment for a girl.

But beyond this, what you showed in 1980, which touched me, was the conversation in the courtroom. A very big lawyer from my country came to me, Ujwal Nigam. He is a very famous lawyer who had sent Sanjeev Dutt to jail. And he has filed cases against many people. He is a well-known lawyer of Maharashtra.

So I asked him, where did you get shaken from within? He said, once I was cross-questioning a rape victim. I was a government lawyer. I was fighting same case. But I was asking him the question that was disgusting to me. But the problem was that the law looks at evidence, not emotions.

Then I realized that getting justice for a girl in this country is tiring. And more than saving her dignity, it is going to hurt her even more.

Because how many times do you have to narrate the same account? And whenever you are narrating, you are reliving it in your mind. So, it is hitting you at every step from inside. Just because you wanted to fight for that thing. So, I am thinking, I don't know where they get the courage

that the girls actually, multiple times, from the complaint to the court room, they again and again, and you know what happens? They say, word to word to word should be the same. Because if anything goes up or down, then your statement will be removed. That you are not in sync with what you said then and what you said now. And that is why the person who was caught will be released.

That is why you do not get results in 90% of the cases. to The family is given money. There are offers everywhere. You tell your daughter, take this money. A father of a daughter tries to fight, and a father of a son tries to save by giving money. Yes, because the boy's life will be ruined. The girl's fate is already ruined.

There have been so many cases in Bollywood. A maid was raped, there have been cases of singers. Countless people are like this.

Yes, because We are also normal people. Our industry is different. We never said that these people are all respectable. We are also people of the same industry as a regular person.

But isn't this 80%? You are not shocked? I was shocked because I was imagining myself at that place. That a woman who has been raped, out of 10, 9 husbands are possessive. Over possessive. Don't touch, don't do this, don't do that. How many husbands would be there who know that their wife has been raped and they fight for justice by telling the society. I'm sure

half of them will be lost.

I don't know, I am yet to meet, what kind of husbands are there. I mean, there must be some, I would like to believe. Who must be standing with their wife. Otherwise, my whole belief system will be broken from this system, from the marriage system. I would like to believe. But you think, those who are doing this,

they are also someone's husband. They are also such possessive husbands who leave their wives with rules that they can't go anywhere at this time. What are they seeing in another woman who feels that they will impose their power there. The whole game is about power. That I can impose power on her, it is my right because I am a man and I can impose it. This is my right from birth. So, this man is doing these things with someone else's wife who is not letting his wife out of the house.

And such people are more strict at home.

Of course, they are. Because they know that the one who was not strict, his wife came out and what did I do with her? They just understand that the one who let his wife come out at odd times and let her wear such clothes, I raped her. So I won't let my wife come out.

But then don't you think this 80 is less? Obviously it is less. I felt this number was very less. To have so much courage to come out in front of the world and accept this and fight for it for many years. Even after the fast track, what has changed since the Nirbhaya incident in 2011? Such incidents occur every day.

I am telling you, we have normalized it, so it cannot change. And I feel that change cannot be brought by the judiciary or our police system alone. We all have to look around us, we have to look at our homes.

There is something missing in our upbringing oring, or a lack of vigilance, that we are not aware of how to stop these things. 80% is reported, right? It's more than that. So, somewhere, knowingly or unknowingly, there is a party around us,

so what have we done about it? We just closed our eyes and said, leave it, we have nothing to do with it. I feel we have to do something as a society. We cannot leave all the responsibility on the judiciary or police system. Otherwise, 10-13 year old boys don't do this. I believe this.

I am asking a very insensitive question. Because you have done this film, you must have gone through this whole process. You must have met people, you must have met survivors. What is the toughest thing in life for a girl who has been through this incident? To repeat that experience, to remember. When that happened, the torture in the courtroom,

when that thing was repeated multiple times, whether in the police station, here, at home, in the neighbourhood, in the family. Or when that case was won. After that, her afterlife.

Yes, that.

Where the society knows that she was raped.

Yes, that. Basically, what happens is that, what will happen after that? I mean, the best case scenario is that I got justice. So-called justice was in my favor. After that?

After that, it's not like it will be eliminated that he was raped. Or he will be mentally or physically back to how it was before. So after that, to be normal, everyone around him, his own life, what else will have to be done?

That question mark, whose answer no one has. That, I think, scares them the most.

The men who were accused of rape, who had compromised, that the case was over or adjusted, they got married later. I know many such people.

I'm sure.

From Bollywood to ordinary life. I don't know those girls who were raped, how many people came who said that now they live a normal life again. Does a rape victim's life normal again?

I don't think so. I don't think it can be. Even if it happens from outside, the scar remains and it can be triggered anytime, with anything. So I don't think it can be normal. So a girl who goes to watch your film, a very sensitive issue. Recently, I read a case in the news. A 25 year old boy was put in jail for a POCSO related crime.

He was released after 12 years on good behaviour. He has written good essays in jail.

This is a very bad practice of our country. If the government wants you to be imprisoned, they release you on the basis of good behavior. There are many such cases. There was a case in Gujarat, where there was a scene of garlanding flowers. Later, the Supreme Court scolded and rebuked the people.

People were very angry and asked how could they be released. It's the same everywhere. And our politicians are responsible for this. I have given a common notice to the politicians of this country that this is a matter of tension between women and men. There are mistakes that can happen.

And all of them belong to different parties. Some belong to Sapa, some to Congress, some to Bhajpa. One thing I have given a common notice

that there is opposition to everything else. And these are mostly gender related things. Because women are the lowest in power order, in priority order.

They will make such a road that Hemamalini will be like a cow.

I mean, how do I react to this?

There was a big minister, a woman was standing next to him. She is a Tanshmal.

And after that, I am thinking what will be the reaction of the people around him. Wow, wow, Munti ji. Wow, you have done a great job.

The way he was garlanded in Gujarat.

I am thinking about the reaction of the people around him. They did not have the courage to question or stop him. I mean, does the mind of everyone else die at the same time?

They call it a sense of humor.

I mean, this level of sense of humor and fun.

Wow, wow.

I think this is a 50,000 times worse sense of humor than mine.

If a girl is going to watch your film, C, if she asks, what will change in my mind after watching this film? Because you have made it.

I think, not just a girl, but a boy too, in their mind, they might be thinking, what can we do? Where have we gone wrong? Like I said, the society in which women are not progressing, the society is not progressing. And the society in which men and women are not able to move together,

the society will not progress. So I feel, both the girls and boys who will leave, they might feel like thinking about what we can do outside of Judiciary and Police. We have actually raised that question in this film, that what can you and I do? Is justice and judgement one thing or two?

Someone told me that people were not able to get uth nahi pa rahe the end scene pe. Isliye gaana dalna pada ummeed ko lekar.

Ye cheez bhikul sahi hai. Ye cheez similar cheez Pink me bhi hui thi. I saw this on Pink, it was there for a long time, people were sitting there. And they put a song by Bachchan sir, it was a poem, so they put it so that people sit and get a little relaxed and then leave. And that's what I obvious to you at the time of final summation that you feel that what did I do wrong? It will force you to think for a second. And then obviously we have a song, we have a final scene

which will make you relax a little so that you can come out.

That's why I love Anubhav Sinha. Anubhav Sinha had made me do this in Article 15, in the country too.

He hit me in many places where I thought. That's why I love Anubhav Sinha. Anubhav Sinha had made me do this in Article 15, in Mulk.

He hit me in many places where I thought. And I said this to him that you have gone far beyond the Anubhav Sinha of Tummin.

Oh, a lot. He is not identified. He is a human being.

I will just quickly ask the audience can enjoy the fun.

I have noticed one thing, that love can be with a cool dude, but marriage is with a subtle guy. Yes, you can see that. Because the drama in life is to some extent right. The ups and downs exc be exciting in life. But to tell a long-term story, you need stability. You always look for stability.

So you can love Salman Khan and marry Abhishek Bachchan and Vicky Kaushal?

You are his producer, you can go to the camp.

I am coming after watching the film.

This is your judgement, not mine.

But if you know you have to marry a settled guy, why do you want to get married to a cool guy?

Let me tell you, every girl wants to love a bad boy. I'll change that. I'll change that. This is the problem with girls, with all of us. We think we'll change that. This is our pet project.

We see boys as pet projects at that age. And then we realize that we are getting spoiled trying to fix it. It's better to somehow get out of this toxic relationship. And find a person who makes you feel anchored. I mean, makes you feel stable. And doesn't do anything new in life every day, there's a new drama happening in life.

There was a very famous dialogue in Man Marziya,

You're a very good man, but in the name of responsibility, you give away your rights.

I give away my rights.

Yes, absolutely. So what would you tell the boy watching you? That brother, you become cool by being V and in the end, Abhishek got the Tafsi Pannu. No, no, I think eventually, we will have to do a character like Abhishek Bachchan. The one who wanted this girl in a very smart way, he did it in such a way that he came to her. But eventually, I think we will have to do a character like Abhishek Bachchan. One question about South. What is South's obsession with Neville? I also am trying to understand. I also am trying to understand. I also am trying to understand.

I also am trying to understand.

I also am trying to understand.

I also am trying to understand.

I also am trying to understand. I was also very shocked when I went there. Why does Nehwal turn on Bhojpuri and South cinema?

I want to know that.

It's not that Hindi cinema doesn't focus on item songs. They do a lot of other things. But during the movie, you are fixated on the storytelling narrative.

Hindi cinema is more about cleavage.

Neena Gupta ji came and Subhash Ghai told her to wear padded bra. Hindi cinema is more about cleavage. Yeah.

Meena Gupta ji came and Subhash Ghai told her to wear a padded bra.

But that's what they say in South.

Gain extra flesh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

And there's a problem on set. Who should the director tell? Because there are only a few girls on set. So who should he say it to AD, to the styling team or to the hair stylist, and then he comes and says it to the girl.

And you think how embarrassing it would be when you are shooting a song on set and you are going to the beach.

Everyone is aware, everyone is sitting outside.

And everyone is looking at the difference. And then comes back and says that we don't know the difference, we have to the difference. And then we come back and say, we don't know the difference, we should go back.

So, this is the effect of 80s. Yes, because as I told you,

you will become a sister-in-law, you will get married, your way of seeing things will change. So, that way of seeing things is the same. Imagine, you have to fantasize. So, how will you fulfill

these fantasies of yours?

These are some parts of yours that will fulfill these fantasies. But these fantasies are made. Is this also a reason that the truth is shown in a film like Assi? Because I have a big cricketer of the country, his YouTube chat list went viral. So in that too, the name of two Bollywood actors was their hot picks.

Yes, yes, yes, That's true. So if you're fantasizing, so the day you're so powerful that you're taking a different turn, you'll also do Shattered. Because you're fantasizing in your mind. So what's being shown in the movies, what's behind the veil, extra nevel, extra cleavage, that's also a manifestation of the events that are coming, which are registered. I'm assuming there are many more. But what about the 80 registered incidents?

What do you perceive in those films? What do you take away from those films? Are these the visuals you have in your mind? Did you not have the idea that it was just a song, everyone sang and danced, and that's it? Or did you just focus on the body parts?

This is something that. This also judges your perception.

But that's how it is perceived. I was telling a story about Silkismita in my book. I read that the movie was made by someone, and I don't know who. Show Silkismita like this.

People used to come crazy. So you can also say that our movies are gaining from the society. People are triggered by seeing this that these things come to minds, these fantasies. So we want people to fantasize about this. That's why we show women like this.

And sometimes I ask this question. The girls who are doing this. Think about it once. This visual will stay with you for a lifetime. Are you okay with it? Because these girls think that once they become famous just by doing this.

Now we'll do something else. Now we'll do something else.

It's easy on Instagram. You can abuse boys, take off girls' clothes, become famous.

Exactly. It's the same. Are you okay with it?

But how do you see this? This Instagram trend is new. To become a creator or an influencer. I said, take off your clothes, girls. No, sorry, girls take off their clothes and start abusing boys. The more abuse, the more clothes you will get, you will go viral as soon as possible. Pan India. You will get ads, maybe you will get work in films,

you will get item song, you will get a chance to sit with celibates. And then keep changing in the aftermath.

I don't know, this is a funny, strange situation. Are you okay with this? Of course, I am not okay with it. It's why I'm not party to it. But how influential or big I am in the scheme of things is the question. I can take my career and my decisions in my own hands.

Not the rest. There are all kinds of people in this society and industry. They will be there.

Last question for you. You are going to watch a cricket match. What is the first thing that comes to your mind when you see a cricketer? Whoever makes the team win. But there is always a favourite in cricket.

I have always seen cricket as a team sport. There was a time when I prayed a lot for Rahul Dravid. He was a good looking guy. Yeah, he was a very good looking guy. And he was such a solid man. You felt like you were watching a man, not a boy.

Right? So what is the difference between man and a boy? The one who makes you feel like, well, it makes you feel like stability. It looks like he's a stable person.

Neena ji said, I never met a man with balls.

I have.

You have a man.

Yeah, I have a man. Yeah, I have a man. He has balls. Who's your favorite cricketer? I told you, let him win.

So, current generation. Now, there's Sheikh Sharma, Sanju Samson, Tilak Verma, Surya.

Sky, I think. Then I'll choose. If I have to choose one. Yeah, he's a very good guy. He comes across like a good man.

His wife's video is going viral. Noora Fatehi was dancing. They were watching like this. His wife panned the video and all the cricketers saw it.

Suriya was like, I'm not watching.

He's very sweet like that.

Yeah, he's a very sweet guy.

Virat Rohit is in that generation.

He is. He's a big star.

If there was someone you liked more.

No, nothing like that. Now if I get biased that Virat is from Delhi, then suddenly I feel like, he is our Delhi

boy.

If he was in Mumbai, I would have said, oh Rohit, what a cool guy. It's a matter of time. Like, actor fix is not always a favorite. Sometimes it's not mine. Every season changes. That's how a cricketer is for me. Music or poetry? Poetry. Say two lines.

I will say it. We have used it in the film, which is in my mind now. A man doesn't say anything after death. A man doesn't think anything after death. A man dies by not saying anything and not thinking anything.

So, yeah, remember that. Best wishes to you and your film. I hope that people go and watch it in large numbers. And rather than watching, bring what is told in it and implement it in real life. I think that's more important. And congratulations to you, Anubhav ji, for making such films.

Thank you so much. I hope that people give this kind of films a chance. Only then they will be able to make more. Otherwise, they will die slowly.

And next meeting is in Ghoonghat.

Next meeting is in Ghoonghat. The title of Ghoonghat is not finalized yet. But yes, it will be again in the next episode. Yes, in the next episode. My sources are not bad. Not at all.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Shubhankar.