WAH PARAH LOE OM🤣😡.. KENAPA GUE YG KLARIFIKASI🤣- Coki Pardede

He asked me, Amar Zoni, with his eyes closed, with his hands and feet shaking. I mean, I'm looking for a drug expert.

I'm confused, do I have to be a bit more modest? The problem is, why is the drug that came out in my name is actually more of a bastard?

No, no.

So, did you succeed in rehab?

No. Hahaha So, the rehearsal was a success? No

Damn

I even cancelled the meeting and cancelled the shooting

For...

5, 4, 3, 2, 1

And close the door

As promised, yesterday I...

Damn, the video is like that that. Why don't you answer?

I answer, I comment. You comment?

I comment.

I don't see it.

I comment. There are a lot of comments on your Instagram.

I asked Amar Zoni, his eyes are closed, his hands are bruised, his feet are bruised. He's put in maximum security. Maximum security is like a 1x1 prison. It was closed, there was no light. I don't know what it was like.

I mean, I was looking for a drug expert. I'm confused. Do I have to be a connoisseur? If you're an expert, it means you understand and understand.

You haven't used it yet. That's right. I used to talk to Tio Pasuka. Tio, right? Yes, Tio.

Tio, he used to talk about the city. He talked about the city. He called the police.

Tio is brave. Tio is great.

What do you mean?

Tio must have more experience. He must have known better what he was talking about. Yes, Tio must have more experience. He must have known what was being said. Yes, Uncle Tio is great. Tio once said, even in prison, there is a romantic space.

There are his sisters.

He said that. According to Uncle Tio.

According to Uncle Tio.

Right.

Then, everything is there. But you've never been in prison, right?

No, no, no. So, I can't confirm what Om Tio said.

That's why I don't want to ask that. I mean, have you ever been to rehab with Amar Zoni?

I don't know. Where is he? Where is Amar Zoni's rehab? RSKO, right?

I don't know. Check it.

I've been to rehab. You've been done rehab. I've been to the police station. Why do you think Amar Zorni was arrested? He doesn't need to distinguish between soap and soap. I don't know. Maybe it's the SOP that must be done by the relevant institution in transferring funds from one sector to the other with maximum security.

I think it's the SOP.

When you were the one who arrested me for carrying a long-range weapon, I was the one who protested.

Do you know that?

Now, I don't do it anymore. I protest. Oh, yeah.

But I don't know. Maybe because there are some security measures. Maybe. So, that's why the SOP is like that. So, the eyes have to be closed. I don't understand, Bang.

I've never experienced something that leveled like that. But we're wrong to invite. Yeah, but... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. We're just asking. But anyway, there's also news that Marsondi is being... Trapped.

We can't talk about it yet.

We can't. Whatever it is, I hope he can get justice for his crimes. If he's being trapped, I hope he can get justice. That's it.

We won't go along. Because we're accusing someone. I don't know who. It's about the Paris agreement with...

Everything that has to do with that.

We don't.

We don't try to follow it.

Just relax. Try to explain to me about drugs. For example, what do you use?

I use everything, but my favorite is meth.

The best?

The easiest to access at that time.

Not the best?

The best is actually... Can I say this? This is education.

Education.

Cocaine is actually the best. Have you ever? Yes. I want to know. What do you feel? Why do people use it?

What do they get? So drugs are just simplifications. If you want to invite an expert, there are definitely a lot of them. But the simplification is that drugs have an upper and a downer.

Okay.

Downers are usually categorized as soft drugs. In certain countries, it is usually regulated. Okay, so it's allowed? Yes, it's usually regulated.

Okay, so it's allowed?

Yes, it's regulated. Maybe we can use the word, it's legalized. Ganja? Yes, it's a soft drug in certain countries. And there are many categories of soft drugs. Some are categorized as hard drugs.

Hard drugs are fentanyl. Upper? Upper, usually. I don't know if fentanyl is categorized as hard drugs. Hard drugs are fentanyl. Upper? Upper, usually. I don't know if fentanyl is categorized as a drug. But I'll just tell you what I know. Like cocaine, meth, heroin.

Can you define for me what is an upper or a downer? If I use the term, what do I think it is? If you use the term, it's a downer. It's a downer. The donor said that he was a donor, as his name suggests. He made a down, he made a relax.

He made a relax.

He made a relax. Even though the strain of the liver is various. Is this like a sedative? Yes. That's why in some places, there is a term called medical liver. It is used for therapy or medication.

So, it can reduce stress?

Yes.

Anxiety, depression?

Yes. You can even cure it with a skin care. You can cure it with a gel. There was a husband and wife. They were having a chat.

No problem.

Correct. Okay, that's a donor. Yes. The problem is still there.

But it's not felt.

But it's not felt. Yes, the problem is still there. The problem is still there, but not felt. But not felt.

Okay, coping mechanism.

Coping mechanism.

Okay, that's a donor.

That's a donor. Okay, I can understand why people use it. Because maybe there's a problem or something. And in some cases, if the situation is right, it can also boost creativity. How can it be? It's a donor, Boss. There are some people whose creativity is ruined when the situation is...

Relaxed.

Yes, the situation is relaxed.

Okay.

There are jokes, I can't confirm the truth. But if you understand, there is a certain music genre that is identical to Ganja.

Reggae.

Yes. If you pay attention, there is... I don't know if there's an element of truth. But usually, the songs or works that are made with influence, usually it will be more... Doner.

Doner.

Okay. Although there are certain trends that can make us hype, but you can't compare it with what is designed to make an upper. If we use an upper, it's like, -"What's next?" -"Okay."

What about LCD?

I don't know about LCD. I think LCD is... What is it called? Hallucinogen?

Hallucinogen. It's different.

I understand why people use a donor, from your story. What about it? Hallucinogen maybe? Hallucinogen, yes. I understand why people use donor if it's from your story.

What is upper?

So, this upper has something to do with certain hormones. I don't know what the name of the hormone is. But there are certain hormones that are produced when we use upper drugs. And when these hormones are produced, these hormones are usually identical to the hormones of pleasure. And the hormones of pleasure.

Oxytocin, dopamine.

Yes, dopamine. Well, usually our body is basically a factory. Our body is a factory. Actually, our body has the ability to produce the hormones. But no one opens the key. Yes, but with the help of this substance,

the production can make inflation. Do you understand what I mean? So, let's say the demand of our natural body, let's say 200. With this substance, it can produce the factory... ...to 5,000.

And it's even said that it's crazier than dopamine when you have sex.

Yes.

That's why there are certain drugs that are used. After we use that drug, we have a sexual relationship. It's better. It's better. And many people's lives are destroyed because... ...we have sex, it's more comfortable. And many people's lives are destroyed because... ...when they stop the substance, the vanilla sex relationship...

...becomes no longer felt. Because all this time, they were... ...helped by drugs like that.

So when that's over...

In my opinion, the most accurate depiction of cocaine that was shown in a movie, one of them was Wolf of Wall Street.

Wolf of Wall Street?

Yes.

Okay, okay. I've never watched it.

What about Sabu? Upper? Upper. It's actually trash. Why is cocaine expensive? Because it's... There's a term for it, pure cocaine and non-pure cocaine. Because pure cocaine still has some of the herbal components.

It's made from some plants. But in the end, they added chemicals so that it can replicate pure cocaine. I don't understand. That's their business problem. Okay, that's a business. Well, this soap is all pure chemical.

So it's made by a lab? Yes, it's made by a lab.

But the effect is like cocaine?

A little bit more, but the smell is worse.

Oh, like cheap alcohol drinks?

Yes. The smell is worse. And we can see it better if we use soap than cocaine.

I've never seen you using soap.

What do you mean?

I've never seen you using soap.

Back then?

Yes.

I can see it. I've seen it a few times in my podcasts with you. Back then, I used I can see it. There are some of my podcasts with you. Back then, I was talking about soap. There are some, but I forgot which ones. For example, we sweat, and then we get a cold, and so on.

Okay.

Even though we sweat, the AC can be hot. So, because of that case, every time we shoot, the AC is hot. You still use it, Cok. Oh, no, the AC is hot.

Cok, but if you're a donor, I understand. I mean, I know your life story, your parents. But now it's okay, they say.

It's okay. If you're a donor, I understand. Why did you run to Aper? Because at that time, there had a thought that there were holes in me that I felt could only be filled by the pleasure of being right.

What was that?

I don't know. For example, the feeling of depression, emptiness. So, at that time, I was still young and stupid. Until now, actually. But I mean, the stupidity, not the usefulness. Like, for example, the feeling of loneliness. Or maybe the feeling of...

like a waste. I felt that, rather than being lonely lonely, more of a loser, and I want to fill the empty pockets in my body with the pleasure of just being right. That's why I use drugs. Which at that moment, I was filled.

When did you feel that? At that moment, it was filled, Om. Okay. This emptiness was filled. When? I mean, it's a bit hard to accept if you say that emptiness is a waste. You have a lot of friends, a lot of this, a lot of that. Yes, but in the end, it's like this, Om. In the end, it's according to the eyes of people.

Everyone has their own definition of emptiness and emptiness. If the person who sees it doesn't experience it, they won't understand it.

So, you're talking about psychology, right?

Yes.

Not just about human. Okay, psychology. So, you put something... Let's say you put something in the fantasy world. Yes, I put it in the fantasy world.

Yes, I put it in the fantasy world. But it got worse. At that moment, when I was using drugs, the emptiness was filled. But we forgot that drugs have an effect after it's worn off. From this much to this much.

It's worse.

Yes, so the emptiness got worse. So, the emptiness is even worse. You have to use it again. So, you have to use it again. That's why the dependence is...

Because of that.

Because of that. Because actually, if we experience emptiness, what we have to find out is why we are empty. Either we go to the right places. We talk to professionals. We find out, is my heart empty? Or is it just my mind?

Or how can we go to a psychologist? We can go to a psychiatrist. Or we can go to places that are referred to by people who understand how to handle this. Or maybe we just don't talk enough. The problem is, at that time, I filled the blank space with unnecessary things.

So, when it's already wear off, the blank space becomes even more blank. And I fill it again. This is beyond because our reference has been opened, the pleasure is like this. Humans will always record what is the most delicious thing they have ever experienced. It's like, if we have eaten the best Padang rice in the world, like this Padang.

After that, if we want to eat other Padang rice, we will definitely say, -"Ah, it's not enough."

The pleasure is different.

Different. But the problem is, this is legal.

We can come back anytime. The pleasure is different. Different. But the problem is, this is legal. Yes.

We can come back anytime. Yes. And you can edit it. Sometimes you can eat just to fill your stomach. If this is the case, you need the same pleasure.

Because other pleasures are far below that.

Yes.

And to reverse our factory settings so that it can...

So, the reference was like this. Sorry, the reference of our pleasure was like this. And to return our factory settings so that we can...

So, the reference was like this. Sorry, the reference of our pleasure was like this. Because using drugs is like this. And so that our body can return to the factory settings, we can be satisfied to be able to get here, it takes a long time.

Okay.

Yes, it takes a long time. In some certain treatments, sometimes, especially in my country, I don't know if it's in Indonesia, the rate of people being cured is's a drug lord. Yes, I see.

Wait, Cok. There's a question before that.

Yes.

So, someone gave you, right? Yes.

Okay.

Or you're looking for it?

No, someone gave it to me.

Someone gave it to you, and you're trying it? I'm just trying it. Okay. We don't need to talk about that.

So, the pleasure that you have there, it can't be achievable with other things? No, it can't.

No, it can't?

No, it can't. Okay, so you have to learn to accept that the pleasure of a normal human being is not like that?

Yes.

Yes, that's why...

It's hard, bro.

Yes, that's why drugs are used to make us experience something that should be natural. We can't experience it, actually. That's why it's called party. It's to enhance. To enhance the interesting experience. Why drugs are identical in entertainment places?

So that the entertainment that is already entertainment, is enhanced. Ten times more. So we're right already entertainment, is enhanced. Ten times more. So, we are right. The happiness is right.

That means, if I analyze the context, for example, we want to go to the Dato. One uses the towa, the other doesn't. You want to react, you can't be as fast as the towa. In the end, you look for the towa again. Because you already know what it's like to use a toah. That's right. My question is,

you have to reduce the pleasure, right?

Yes.

Is that right?

Yes. Does that mean you succeeded in rehab?

No. Actually, if you want to ask me something like this, don't take it from me. Just look at the statistics. Because statistics don't give a shit about your feeling, right? Just try to ask for statistics data.

The reverse one.

Yes, the reverse one and the one that was caught again. The one that was caught. Yes, it will be fairer than you ask me. Maybe if you ask me, I'm still biased. Because maybe I'm annoyed with something. But just try to ask for statistics data.

But at least rehab comes from a good purpose and we understand their endgame and we have to respect that. Because maybe one of the things they understand is that. And sometimes it's proven that there are people who are successful. So, if rehab doesn't work for you, what will? In the end, I know that life is not just about pleasure.

Okay, I finally realized the fact that there are certain pleasures that I can't repeat again. Because it will cause problems for my own body. I can die of overdose and so on. And it can also cause problems with the law. Okay. Which are both scary.

Okay. Okay, I'm already at peace. Okay, so the pleasure that I've done before, it won't be repeated again.

Okay.

It's hard.

Yes, it's hard. Until finally, I... So, there are my friends who I always become friends with, friends who share, to let them know that life is actually not just about pleasure.

Because if we talk about life chasing pleasure without any effort, it's actually empty. I'm like a bixu, damn it. But the point is, you understand what I mean, right?

Yes, yes, yes.

And finally, one of my coping mechanisms to be at peace, which can bring peace to the pleasure of drugs, is actually living for others. Living for others?

Yes.

You're like a wikzo, right?

Yes, I'm like a wikzo.

Living for others, you mean, you don't want to disappoint others, or your life is useful for others?

Not people pleaser, right?

Yes, yes.

Not people pleaser, but living for others is like this, If we live for ourselves, it's definitely void, in the end. Because let's say we have 1 trillion, we have 1 trillion, in the end, if it's just for us, how much can we spend 1 trillion? Well, you also have money, almost 1 trillion, right? Confused, right? Basically, the point is, if we live for all our achievements, all our income, everything we have, if we only use it for achievements, all our income, all that we have, if we only use it for ourselves, it will be empty, like a bag with a hole underneath.

But if we have, this is what I mean, for others. If we have others, whether it's a partner, or maybe a child in some cases, or whoever we consider important, we live for them. So there's a meaning.

Well, you haven't been like that since yesterday.

Oh, no. I don't have it.

How come you don't have it? You have a lot of friends, you have a business, you're in a rally.

Yes, because at that time... Because at that time I felt that... Here's the thing, Om. At that time... That's why I'm still young, I'm still stupid. I still feel that this life... Here's the thing.

It was a problem I had in my life. At that time, there was a problem I had in my life. And that problem, I felt that I was so special. This is my thought at that time. I was so special that I was like, why did I get into this problem?

It's not fair. Why did I get into this problem? So this blurred my view that actually, there are people beside me who can be a place to rely on and so on. So, I was too focused on my problem at that time. And because I had a character syndrome at that time,

so I ran away. I was too selfish, thinking syndrome at that time. So, I ran away. I was too selfish, I thought about myself, until I realized there were other people around me. And at that time, I felt that my problem was not something that could be easily shared with people around me.

Because you didn't want to.

Because at that time, my problem was my own thoughts. I felt that if I told other people, how would they react? Yeah, yeah. But...

But it's not certain.

That's it. That's why the problem is my own opinion.

Yeah, because of your own fear.

Because you use drugs, and they don't judge. Okay, okay. They come, you use it, and they're happy. But you know that you have a lot of friends who don't judge you. Oh yes, even though there are some who mocked me at that time. But that's a wake up call. Yes, yes.

But that's a wake up call. It means that if they want to mock me, it means that they put in effort. For the aim, at least for the aim. At least for the aim, and put release the energy to do that. Which is, I think, seeing that person's personality, he won't do that to anyone.

Yes, I understand.

Yes, like that.

But I'm not surprised. Okay, so we understand that when you use it and now you don't use it, it means you know that there is no pleasure that can achieve that pleasure.

Yes, that's why I live for someone. I live for, well, this will be heard, but you can't judge. You can't judge the purpose of people's lives. I live for my partner, and I live for my poodle, actually.

Okay.

My two-p with two dogs. Peter and Jasper. So, when I'm tired, when I'm shooting and playing, it's not fun. Because if I'm still living for myself, I'm like, fuck this world.

Why do I work with people who are not fun? But no, if I meet situations that are not fun in the work environment, I remember. But this is work, right? If I work, there is no food for Peter and Jasper. So, my tiredness is paid when I can bring my results and achievements can be enjoyed by people who are close to me.

Including your dog. Including my dog, you are one of them. Including your dog. Including my dog. You are one of them. Then there's Adriano Colby, people in MLE. All BODs in MLE. And the dog can be like, for example, you go home, there's something there.

Dogs are amazing, right? If you go home, I don't think there's anything happier than a dog. Right, right. But I understand if there are people who don't understand that. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. That's why I think one of my therapies in facing life is actually having pets.

That's why there are service dogs. Yes. There's anxiety, there's a service dog for anxiety. There are people who use service dogs for anxiety.

That's right. That's right.

Okay, Cok. I'm going to jump, okay?

Go ahead. I'm jumping, right? Because you're going crazy in the gym now.

I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I see you. Because I see the clubhouse. Ebel also goes to the gym.

Why aren't you proud? Ebel is a bit stupid.

He has a problem with everyone at Crustadol. We don't have a problem with him. He's the one who has a problem with us. Ebel, Evel. Because he's out of the group.

Evel is unique.

Go ahead.

I see you suddenly started working out.

Yes.

And I'm honest, I'm really proud. Why am I so proud? First, I've known you for a long time. Second, this is my world, bro. So, I'm definitely happy when people can go to the gym. I even know, no one knows,

this is a funny story.

I'll share it.

This story, no one knows, and it happened in my house. Which one? There are a lot. I'll tell you. I don't know the story, but it happened in my house. Which one? There are many stories. I'll tell you.

So, I had a meeting at night at home. Okay.

So, we ate. The easiest way to eat was to eat a burger. Oh, yes. Nada burger. The burger was delicious. It was delicious. And when we wanted to eat, she was confused. She was looking for other food that was cleaner than this.

Don't open it. Is there any other food that is cleaner than this?

Don't open it, my reputation as a dark lord will be ruined. In the end, he only eats the meat. Even that, while eating, he takes it. Oh, what a waste.

I want to eat it.

How many calories is this? How many proteins is this? I want to slap you I mean At the same time

I also do gym editing

And I eat

And the problem is your body is better than me

He said that in front of me I feel like I'm the one who is wrong Like a dog, I mean I eat But the one who was wrong. Like, damn, I ate it.

But the dog, you gave him ice cream again.

But the ice cream is good. The ice cream is special, low calories and stuff. I just ate the ice cream. Okay, so I'm really proud. Who introduced you to the gym? So I have a friend, I have to shout out his name.

The one who introduced me to the gym is my friend named Axel.

Oh, Axel.

He's been in the corpus for a long time, he's useless. Introducing you to the gym.

Because your gym representation is angry, not wearing a shirt. And slapping people. So I didn't know why at that time. No hard feelings, but you never think about it. Not because of anything, just never think about it. I have a friend named Axel.

At that time, he was in the worst condition in his life. So, this is connected to my previous story. He was in the worst condition in his life. And he was exposing his anxiety to something called gym. And at that time, I was out of control physically.

Yes, I saw the photo.

Yes, because one of my ways, besides having reasons for to live differently, I also tried to reduce the pleasure by running to alcohol.

Oh...

Yes, I ran... The substitute is alcohol. At least it's legal, right? I ran to alcohol. Alcohol is when we're hungry, and all that. Not to mention my job, which at that time I was leading the club.

I was leading the karaoke in the club. So, I drank, drank, drank. I was really fat. This guy told me, Cok, let's go to the gym.

That's it.

Then I said, I don't know, because at that time, the representation... Not all of them, of course. The representation of the gym people that I know, besides you, are the preachy people. I'm not interested.

But because I know at the time of the reunion, my body weight was out of control, 78 at that time. The problem is, I'm short, 159 kg. So, 78 kg was...

A bit round.

Round, extreme. I was in the second group.

Diabetes.

I was pre-diabetes.

Right.

I was pre-diabetes. I was like, okay.

The momentum was right.

The momentum was right. And I saw, I'll tell you later. He was in a bad situation in his life. Okay. I went to the gym. At that time, I thought... Let me introduce you to my coach. His name is Delon.

Delonix. He has an Instagram. Let me introduce you to my coach. At that time, I thought, let's just go to the gym. If I fail, it knows. We'll see. Along the way, I was working out. My coach asked me,

-"Cok, I want to ask you something. Are you working out for your health or for your body?" He asked. I said, I want to lose weight because I want to have a nice body. He said, -"Okay, you can work out. If you don't feel good for 3 months, you can go out anytime. I said, okay, I'll do gym.

I can't do pull-up. I can't do anything. It's just a sport. Back then, I thought I could lose weight and just go to the bathroom. That's what I thought. I said, okay, I'll do gym. And it's so hard.

I couldn't pull up, I couldn't lift my phone. I started working out when I was 37. I started working out when I was 37. I was so late. I was 37. I was fat and I wanted to work out. I was working out until I got paid.

I cut it off. It's hard to go to the gym, right? It's hard. Why didn't you quit?

Here it is. After a month, it's starting to show. But you can last a month, it's amazing. It's not bad. I go three times a week anyway. In a private gym. So, I came to his place. Because I'm shy. I've tried to go to a gym three times a week anyway. In a private gym. So, I came to his gym. Because I was embarrassed. I tried to go to a gym in a commercial gym. I didn't understand the rules.

I was a fat person. I don't know. Anyway, my enemy is my own mind.

In the gym, the people are the most dangerous.

It should be. Yes. If we see someone who has a weak body, and the nurse can't help, we'll help you. Because we've been in that position before. That's right. But I'm a very close enemy. Okay. Okay. I came here. After a month, almost two months, I realized that my hand is getting better. Okay.

I can see the scar. I started to have desires that I didn't expect to have. You know what? Selfie, selfie, alone.

Oh, now you understand. Now you understand.

You used to say that to me.

Now you understand.

I was there.

And I was like,

now the camera is in front of me. I will use it to make a video. I will use it to make a video. What are you doing? Making a video. I will use it to make videos. I will use it to make videos.

I will take a selfie with this.

Only the glasses.

That's right. And even though there was a mental conflict at that time. I wanted to post it or not.

Why?

Because again, it's my own thought. Again, it's my own thought. Because back then, these people were so cheap. Actually, I posted it, it's not a complex thing. The point is self-rewarding. I've been through a process that not everyone knows about.

From this to that. Then, when I posted it, I feel like there's an accomplishment.

Yes, that's an achievement.

You have no idea. I often stand up in front of thousands of people. Even my special show is still recorded in Indonesia's record. I think the second most crowded special show after Panji Pragyawaksono. So you know, the first time I could pull up, it felt almost the same as being punched by 3,500 people. I was like, Wow, I'd rather pull up.

And is there an achievement like, Damn, it turns out I can do it.

Yes, yes. Maybe you and Khan will say, Yes, just pull up, what else? But for me, pullup is a big thing. Bro, I think only 5% of people in the world can pull-up. I can pull-up, but it's still not enough.

I can only do it 10 times.

Let's check the result. How many percent of people in the world can pull-up 10 times? Don't be wrong. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

No, don't be so sure.

People who have 1M, 10M, 100 billion, they have more than people who can pull up.

Okay. Okay, while looking for the data. While looking for the data. So, you find pleasure there. Yes, after that... So, my coach also slowly introduced me to the gym world

according to how he sees my mood. He didn't give me all the information about my breakdown, and all that. I think he also adjusted it according to my psychology. So, after he saw me... His gym is on the second floor.

If you want to go there, there are glass. I like to stop there. This is really bad. I'm embarrassed to tell this story. I think I've said that before.

Okay, done.

So, he started to introduce me to more basic things in the gym world. For example, you have to drink protein.

Oh...

Protein milk. So, slowly... Slowly, you have to drink protein milk. Because if you're happy with your achievement, especially if you use protein, it will be more visible.

Drink protein milk. After a month, it's more visible. He said, you have to try creatine. It's actually like selling drugs.

I already know the order. I already know the order.

Whisk protein, creatine. Later, amino.

Correct. I was given creatine. And now, every day I drink protein milk and creatine. That's my priority.

But, you know what? You should be more enthusiastic. P.W.O.

That's right!

That's right!

P.W.O. is the one that brings disaster in quotation marks. Why? Because after I tried P.W.O., the taste, maybe I'm not accurate, but at least this is what I feel, it's similar to Upper.

Similar to Upper, but not as...

I don't think so, because it's legal, bro. It's legal. Similar to Upper, like the spirit. The eyes are tight. That's why in my videos, when I'm lifting deadlifts or whatever, that's the name of the movement. I'm like, the eyes are like this, people are like, wow, you're wearing it again. I said, yes, I'm just saying. I don't care.

The truth is, I'm wearing a P.W.O. It's really comfortable. Even now, when I'm shooting at night, I'm wearing a P.W.O. It's crazy.

Do you know that P.W.O. used to contain mahwang? What is that? I don't know. It's now banned. It's banned because it's considered as doping. So, if you use a PWW with Mahuang, the upper is really crazy. But it's banned because it's considered as doping. But I think in some countries,

it's still allowed. 10 times pull-up, 10-15% men, 1% women in the world.

Wow. 10-15% men, 1% women in the world.

Average number of pull-ups for men, 3 for women.

Okay, I'll do it more often.

10 pull-ups for 10-15% of people. Here, the ego is being fed.

But, here's the thing. Sorry, I'm going to skip here's the thing. Sorry, I'm jumping again. Your face is good now. Oh yeah. What's it called?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The face of the Dark Lord is like...

...Oppo's doll.

Yeah, that's right. Especially my tattoo is Lucifer. Lucifer is a bit of a backstabbing. And I'm a bit of a backstabber. I'm a bit of a backstabber. And not to mention my pop culture idols like Post Malone or whoever. He was also addicted to it, but he was a bit of a snob. He started exercising and he looked better.

So, if we weigh our bodies in proportion, there's no one who's bad, Gieom.

That's true.

Actually, it's up about how we handle ourselves. But if I say something like this, people will say, it's preachy, but whatever. Just leave it. Okay, I'm using PWO. I'm happy, Om. I'm happy.

I'm at the stage where, wow, this gym is addicted to drugs. I even cancelled meetings and shootings for 10 pull-ups. If I don't have time, I, I'm at home, if I want to take a shower, I'll look at it for 15 minutes. Wow, that's cool. But it requires all my ability to not be paused.

Not yet, bro.

You're a dog.

Wait and see, when it's been 30 minutes.

But if I'm six-pack, I'll be paused.

I've said it before. But look, bro. I mean, humans are... Let's not talk about this. I think all humans are pygmies.

Oh yeah, there are elements.

There are pygmies, there are NPD elements.

There are elements. The condition is different. There are flexing elements.

Do people play the pedal or not?

Oh, that's so funny. People play the pedal, but it's expensive. It's like playing Lubagus. You rent the place and buy clothes and so on. You take a photo. At most, you just play there, take a photo.

Yes, sports is true. But if the sport is true, I just take photos. I just play around, take photos. Yes, sports is true. But if sports is true, it's not taken photos. In short, the person who recommended me to go to the gym, now he doesn't go to the gym anymore. He's a peddler, right? He edits the shooting.

He's a content creator. He focuses on shooting. Because his life is already happy. This Axel. This Axel. So, you're not happy? No, I'm not. I think my happiest moment is now...

At the gym.

At the gym, actually. I don't know why I'm talking like this. But that's what I feel right now. I went to the gym. And do you know what the effect is on the people around me?

What is it?

And this is the effect that I didn't expect. I never preach like, -"Let's do sports." Even if I'm asked, -"Why do you go to the gym?" My answer is low-key. I don't want to be healthy. I use common ground answers.

-"It's okay. I'm cool in the club."

I'm like that too.

I don't want to answer like, -"You're healthy. You're dead." Which is good, but I'm not that kind of person. I'm not that kind of person. I'm just honest. That's Ray's job. That's right. And he does his job very well.

Okay. What's his name?

This is it. Flexing. People do flexing. Now, remember the flexing era, flexing luxury cars. Flexing kindness a good thing to do. Why can't you flex when you get an achievement that is so difficult? I ask this, people who play the pedal, on the first day, they can't play.

Can they photo flex?

Of course. He can. He can do it. With the circle, or with the place of the pedal, with whatever he has there.

Yes.

The racket is minimal.

The racket.

Yes, it's expensive.

Right?

Until now, I still don't know the difference between a pedal and tennis. Because I'm stupid.

I'll ask you now.

Yes.

You go to the gym. You're still fat.

On the first day, you're flexing.

I'm burning the viral. If only I could burn it. Like a pig.

That's why I saw the photo.

That's why when you're flexing, it means you've achieved something. That's right. That's why when you do flexing, it means you've achieved something. That's right. That's right.

And finally my friend doesn't do gym anymore. He still does it once in a while. And I'm addicted to it. And I'm happy. There's an adrenaline rush. There's an adrenaline rush.

And we have a lot of problems. Whether it's our personal problems or anything else. In the gym, back to the lowest point I mentioned earlier, in the gym, when you're bench pressing, deadlifting, or pulling up, you don't think about it. At the moment...

You can't think about it.

At the moment, you're thinking, am I going to get a cramp or not? Am I going to get am I crazy or not? To lift this much, am I crazy or not?

Because for those who don't understand, if you lift it, it's already 120 kg. That's why... Do you remember the era of Timothy? He said people were doing gym, stupid and all that. Why was that?

Many were offended. Because people who do gym, when they lift like that, they are already playing muscle connection.

So, if you don't really concentrate, it's a disaster. When Timothy said that, I'm not offended, not because of anything. Because I'm focused on how to raise this. So, I don't have time. That's the first thing. The second thing, the effect for the people around me,

which I didn't expect, is what I'm touched by. They know, how was my lifestyle back then. Now, I'm not really clean in the context, I'm still drunk, I'm still smoking, I'm still an athlete yet. But when they saw me like that,

they felt like, if I'm like this, it's like the world is going to end. I think I have to correct myself.

But if you can do that, others can do that too. So, it's a positive.

Adri is now a runner. Everyone else is like, Bro, if you're like this, it means we have to think about it. It means we have to fix something in our lives. And he said, Cok, it's not just us.

It's not just you who feel helped by our advice. We are also helped by you fixing your life little by little. Without me having to make you do it. No, it's not like that. It's already has another task. And I'm not qualified to say that.

But it's like this, I saw your video, you pull up with additional weight underneath. To be honest, I'm not proud. I never thought you were there. You get the point, right? So, when I saw it, I was like, damn it.

And you know what, Om? This is a bit exaggerated, but this is what I feel. I feel that the gym is like a religious experience. You know, the religious stance. How do I feel, Om? So, I feel that my body is my temple.

So, because this is my temple... You need to take care of that. Yes, so little by little, I still smoke, but I want to reduce it.

Yes, yes, yes. You drink, you want to reduce it.

I want to reduce it. I don't mind drinking for social. I don't mind. But in the long run...

But you think, this insulin is increasing.

True. It's not burning. I used to think, does a gym person enjoy life? No, when you're in a certain mindset, you're the one who will change. You're the one who will change and you'll be happy with it.

The pleasure is different.

The pleasure is different. So, my most religious experience was when I was in the gym. So, even though I'm not offended by Timothy's statement that people go to the gym, I don't understand where the anger comes from. Because it's the same as religious hatred for some people. Do you understand what I mean? I'm You don't know how to enjoy it. You can't enjoy it, you can't eat this, you can't eat that, etc. It's wrong. Yes, there is a way.

There is a way. There is a way, it's called cheating. There is a way, there is a mechanism. It doesn't mean we are miserable.

Adira said this. Adira ate kway teow. Adira ate kway teow, it's weird, right?

Yes. One day, someone asked me, -"Dik, why do you eat so messy?" -"Oh, it's okay. I have a lot of savings." Oh, that's a good answer. But there's also a dark side of when we find pleasure in sports. For me, the dark side is that we want to try all sports. Even people comment, -"Run, Cok. Try running. Try this and that."

No, I'm sorry. It's not that I don't want to. If I try everything, when will I get a job?

But if you ask me, if you've been doing this for a while, how long did you do Battlestick?

Then you try something else. I actually want to try Tinju, Om. Oh, Tinju? Okay. We have the same contact. Yeah, I want to try to show it. I'm curious, how many times do you practice a week? Three times.

Three times. My question is, when you don't practice, you're sick.

Yeah.

Well, at my house, there's a clubhouse with a gym. You can check. It seems like the ladies know. If there's a certain time, there's a... Coki will definitely come there. I come there for cardio. And then...

So, you did it almost every day.

Almost every day. My coach even told me that I was banned from it. Because I was over-training, it's not good. So, I had to take a break.

Do you want me to tell you something?

What?

I don't know if I can say this or not. But I think I can. What? Although both of them seem to have different definitions. When we were shooting, I asked Ade, Ade, I'm curious, but you answer honestly. Do you have an off day?

Well, that's good. Does he have one? I don't think he has an off day. Right? I think he sleeps like this. Well, as far as I know, as far as we know, we are educated so that there have a rest day, right?

Yes.

The problem is I don't have a day off. Not at all? Literally? No, unless I'm sick, I go to the gym. No, literally. If you check my...

What?

This, I don't have a day off. Well, I feel like that's wrong.

Okay.

Because, well, just think about it, the body needs rest. I asked Ade, Ade, we need off-day. Do you know the answer? What? For what? No, off-day.

Yes, for what? For recovery of the body and so on. According to him, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm wrong, according to him, off I'm not mistaken, off-day is needed if you're an athlete.

Which one? Athlete. One day is for training the athlete. If you know the athlete, one day is for 6 hours. The portion is different with the normal people like us. If you're a badminton, badminton is from morning to evening,

how many hours are left in the game, you have to be off. And he said, if you're in the gym for an hour, what are you doing?

Yes, that's right.

That's him.

According to him. It makes sense. So, I go to the gym, I'm happy. I'm happy. I don't know, I'm at the happiest point in my life right now. And the achievement, of course. The mindset has changed.

Now I'm aware that the time is limited. I'm aware that the time is limited. So, by ourselves, we will choose to hang out with people we consider as our friends. Because if we have spare time, we better use it. That's right. So, for people who have a tight gym schedule,

if they still have time to hang out with you, you are very noble.

That's right.

Trust me.

Because when he talks, I don't think I can talk. I'm a bit emotional. Sometimes, if I have a meeting, I don't know what it is, I say, I want to go to the gym. He said, I'm zooming in. He said, I'm zooming in on other people.

He's interfering with my gym schedule.

And we feel secure with ourselves. That's what I feel the most. We feel secure with ourselves because we're confident. We know that we are earned. We are earned. From our job, from our physical condition, we are earned.

I remember Adry once told me this and it's really good. Cok, you have to win in two things in this life. Win in life and win in career. If you only win in career, not win in life, you will be like Kurt Cobain. He won in career. Who can compare his career with that?

But not in life. How? What is the descendants that won in life? Of course, we settle it economically, yes. Everyone has their own settlements. We have people that we live for. One more thing, we are satisfied with ourselves.

So, every time we look at the mirror, we don't have hatred, and we don't have bitterness towards the people in the mirror. Because the easiest way for us to love this life is to love ourselves first. At least, if we can't love the monster in our mind, love the casting first.

I didn't expect that.

Believe me, if you...

Bro.

I never expected that in my hear this from a guy. This is because I'm deadlift 120 kg.

But I'm out of the politics because I'm being asked. I understand the limit. I don't want to be someone who... Because my call is not there. If I'm asked, I'll tell. But your talk is useful for...

If I'm the one who talk, people already know. If you're the one who talk, it's very different. I don't know. Actually, I do gym just for myself. So I'm happy with myself. The most expensive is is to be secure. Being secure with ourselves is really good.

And from the look, it can help.

Yeah, sure.

Because no matter what, even though there is the term inner beauty, inner beauty can work if people don't need to look too inner.

Inner beauty is not what's inside that can't be seen.

Yeah, right. Now, it's being confused like, it's okay, we're casting it like that. But it's often brought out of context. I understand the meaning of inner beauty. So, casting is not too important.

What's important is... I agree with the widgets to a certain extent. But anyway, if our body is proportional... I don't have to say it in a blunt way. If our body is proportional, people will be happy. It's the same as not to judge a book by its cover. If it's in the media, it's plastic.

Until a certain point, people will sell... People will sell... Insurance should be presentable. Yes.

How about selling cars?

Yes.

What's the connection? I'm sure the one who understands cars is father, not the SPG car sales? What's the relationship? I'm sure the one who understands cars is the fat dad, not the SPG. That's right. That's so funny. The SPG dad is the fat dad who can buy that car. He must have explained the car more clearly than the SPG. In my opinion, the winner in life is Bon Jovi.

Who is the vocalist? Bon Jovi. Yes, Bon Jovi. He's the vocalist? Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi. He's old, but his body is still fit. He's old, but his body is still fit. Jamie Foxx.

Tom Cruise.

F1? Who's F1?

Brad Pitt. I think he's a freak of nature. He's that old? He's like a grape. He's getting older, he's getting better. Dan dia tuh kayak anggur. Makin tua, makin bagus, dan badannya tuh... Gitu-gitu aja.

Untuk orang umur segitu sih, wah, gokil. Dan yaudah, gue happy banget. Dan itu ngasih ketenangan yang sangat-sangat gak bisa dibandingkan dengan apapun sih sebenarnya. Ya, itu. Ya, mungkin. Yeah. Maybe you will say, it's okay, it's okay. But just try it first.

Try it later if it's been a month, if it's been two months, you've already... There is no more pleasure other than we feel like we earn. We earn what we...

what we are now from starting to achieve and from the physical. What I said earlier, my thoughts, because I do gym, it's getting less and less. There are still monsters, but...

Which one, sorry?

The one I always feel like...

You're just mental to yourself.

Yes, I'm just mental to myself. It's getting less and less because I...

Because you earn it.

Because you're proving it. Yes, because I'm working out. So, I'm in love with myself. I understand. If you're taking care of that... Yes. And I'm like... I can't wait to do it tomorrow.

Because... What else is this body adventure? What else is this? But... It's too positive. But... But it's too positive. But it's okay, right?

Choki Zen.

Not long ago, there was a guy named Strengthbase.id. He started to talk shit about me. But I have to admit, when we started to go to the gym, our ego is easily to be affected in the context. If you're challenged, it's hard if you're not answered. Do you understand what I mean?

I didn't understand it before. What is it? You just have to say no. Because we work, because we try to make it very long. Like, I often like to comment if I post, 200 kilos, not sent to the home gym. No, plus the carpet.

I thought, because I know that the gym carpet is expensive. It's really expensive.

It's expensive. It's for the people who are in the gym.

Yeah.

The people who are in the gym. I mean, I don't give it to the gym. I can't afford it. Home gym plus carpet. Hmm, am I healthy? Then I pin it.

Yeah, I'm happy. I'm happy. Thank you. Thank you, Om. Hopefully there are also those who are not influenced.

That's why... What you do if you have problem? Make muscle. What you do if you have bigger problem? Make bigger muscle.

Yes, that's right. Tindju also makes us crazy, actually. What you do if you have bigger problem? Make bigger muscle. I was like, this is the first time I've seen Tiju. He's using his sport standard to warm up. So, I said, Tiju, we have to do this. We can't just stay still. I was like, I'm so tired. How about this, Tiju? He said, no, you'll get used to it.

But I think I want to deepen Tiju. Not to join a competition. I think it's just for my own pleasure.

But that's just increasing dopamine. All sports are about increasing oxytocin and dopamine. I used to say that there are four hormones that increase. The first one is serotonin, if I'm not mistaken. Because you have a desire. Sorry, dopamine because you have a desire.

And then serotonin because you want to achieve something you have a desire. And serotonin because you produce something you never had. You know, the last one is a love hormone.

Yes.

To yourself.

That's right. And I think that's the safest fundamental. Because if you love yourself, you know how to love others. That's the safest. Although sometimes the output is a bit too much. I have to admit it.

Like, I'm posting. So, now I'm starting to limit myself. Hmm, should I do this or that? If it's a bit too much, I'll just do a story. I control myself. And I try not to be preachy, Om.

And I try to take common ground. There are also a lot of people who are like, for example, Ah, you'll also stop will stop in 3 months. Or you will stop in 6 months.

Just let it be.

I've been doing this for 7 months.

Yeah, 7 months.

How does it feel to get something that's not instant? It's fun. This is the difference. Because I'm not the best stand-up comedian, but I believe I'm one of the best. But I'm not the best. Number wise, in a special show.

When you beat 3500 people, 1500 people, 2500 people, it's fun. You can think about it. But it will shrink. Because they will go home.

I like that.

People will go home. Then the adrenaline will go down. But your muscles stay.

Right.

Go home with you?

Go home with us. Sleep with us. Even if we wear clothes. If you forget, right? Go home with us. Sleep with us. Yes. Even we wear clothes.

If you forget, you just look at the mirror.

Yes, if you forget, you just look at the mirror. Ah, life is so hard. I just open my clothes. Wow, at least I have a lot of problems, but I'm handsome. Especially I have a tattoo. This tattoo is in my opinion a form of commitment. People may not agree, it's okay.

But I think tattoo is a form of commitment. Because tattoo is a work of art for me. So, I want to be responsible. My canvas must be good.

Yes, that's right.

My tattoos are thick. If not, your face will change.

The devil tattoos will make you smile.

The devil tattoos will make it's like a smile. Tattoo, tattoo, satan, it's like a teletubbies. It's like a dog. That's why if I can talk about my childhood, I just want to say one thing. If I can repeat it. It's already too late, actually, I exercise, but fuck it, it's okay. If I can go back to the past,

talk to myself, I just want to say one thing. Don't try drugs. Because it's good! You'll have a hard time understanding it. Don't do that. You should be a sports person faster than this. That's all, actually. But, whatever.

It's better to be late. It's better to be late than never. But maybe there will be a time when I will really go to a healthy life. But maybe let it be organic. Right now, maybe not. I still want to enjoy everything.

No, but Cok, I want to thank you.

Why?

Because, one, I have a gym business, so you help a lot. For people who want to go to the gym. But I want to thank you, because first, if I talk about gym and stuff, people have been watching me for a long time. Even if they watch Adirai,

I think it's difficult to achieve Adirai. But, I'm sorry if I say this. From you, who we considered to be a mess yesterday, suddenly came here, it's like what Adri said, if a guy like this,

the world needs change.

I don't know if it's a compliment or a insult,

but I take it.

So, you... You, without realizing it, I would say, please do the photo and everything. Because without realizing it, you can make people want to live healthier. Eh, bro. Those people make people want to live healthier. Not to mention the drug addicts.

We never knew there were drug addicts. Maybe they could be a trial to stop because they were influenced by you.

You are more works than BNN's song.

Hahaha! Hahaha!

Which is... When I was dancing, I was a bit fat.

Hahaha!

I'm a big fat pig. But it's okay, I'm still a pig. Even though I'm not a person who doesn't change. I mean, Coki Pardede is still Coki Pardede. Thank you, Om. Thank you. Even though people have started to be like this.

They know how my past was. They know how my life was. I've been accused of it.

What?

I've been accused of it. If I'm still wearing it, it's okay. It's already food. It's a consequence and I'm kidding. I don't give a fuck. He said, ''Wow, you're on gear.'' Do you understand what I mean?

Steroid.

''You're a steroid. No, bro. Steroid is not thin. This is thin, bro. This is thin. No, I'm not a steroid.''

It's like this. If I'm someone who says, ''Ah, steroid. Steroid.'' ''Then you try it with steroids.'' He said, ìYou use steroids, right?î Or he said, ìI use steroids.î I said, ìI use steroids.î He said, ìYou donít have to say that. Try it. Try it.î ìI want to know what you use steroids for.î

I was natural, bro. I was natural. I was natural and I was so happy. I was so happy. I was in the best time of my life. There were still many problems, but that's it.

Problems never disappear. So, you're like a church now?

Yes. My religion is gym now.

Do you want to hear Coki say that? Three years ago, it was like impossible. It's impossible. If Coki is like this, there's no lost youth. No. No.

No.

But I'm happy, Coki. Thank you. And to be honest, I really love you. Thank you.

You know that. You know that. You're also in my journey to be honest, I really love you. Thank you. You know that. You're also in my journey to become a better person. You're always there. I have to say this, I'll just open it here. Om Deddy is always there at every lowest point in my life. I won't be on this chair if you're not there.

Yes, from the beginning of the controversial case,

all the cases, I'm happy with anything.

But I'm proud of you. Thank you, Om. Don't praise me like this, I don't know what to do.

Honestly, when we invited him, we wanted to invite him, but I wanted to discuss the gym, but if we only discuss the gym, I don't think there will be an opening, it's not good.

Coincidentally, Zony was caught.

But the best thing for him, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I can. Yes, I can. I can.

I think I'm worse than you.

So, you're sure he can be good?

Sir, my video about the arrest is spread everywhere. I think I'm the most epic top 3 in all the videos about drug trafficking. And there's also... The one is Bandar. I'm not going to get confused anymore. I can do it, man.

If we're lucky, we'll meet outside and play together.

That's it.

Thank you, Cok.

You're welcome, Om.

Thank you.

I don't know what else to say. I'm proud of you. You've proven that... You said that I'm almost there in every... ...path in your life, even the lowest,

I have never been in your life when this happened and was happy. So, it seems like the journey has an end, and I'm really happy because the ending is like this. I've never imagined a conversation like this.

That's right. Thank you, Om.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you. And...

Take photos, okay?

Don't ever stop.

Let's close this.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And close the door.