Who Is @NickShirley? | PBD Podcast | 710

So I never said this before.

So imagine it's Christmas, we're all minding our own business and then everybody starts texting you, watch this video, watch this video, watch this video. I'm like, I'll get to it later, I'll get to it later. And eventually I watch the video and I start texting everybody, watch this video, watch this video, watch this video. Next thing you know, it becomes a top 10 most viewed video. Some are saying top 5, some are saying top 10.

Nearly 150 million views after being uploaded a day after Christmas. And it created so much havoc that it made journalists stop working, start working. Come on, why would you do such a thing? CNN had to work, they came after him yesterday. Everybody's trying to find that. They call him MAGA YouTuber, they call him Islamophobe, they call him all this other

stuff. I said, listen, why don't you just fly down here, let's sit down and do a podcast and talk about what you just did. And we have the one and only Nick Shirley in the house.

Thank you for having me.

It's great to have you on. 23 years old, and you're doing this. Yeah, it's been the craziest week of my life this past week or so. So I want to learn about you, but first tell us why has it been the craziest week of your life this week?

Yeah, so I've been doing YouTube and doing what I've been doing for years now, for at least two years consistently at this point, but this week I've hit a new level as far as what I produced and put out on the internet is the most viewed video by any other creator that's not named Mr. Beast for a long form video. Like seriously, seriously, I've never seen a video at 131 million views on X.

How many followers? When I watched it when you first posted, you had a couple hundred thousand followers on X.

Where are you at now?

Now about to hit a million.

You're about to hit a million. Just in the last four days with why do you think the world and why do you think America's reacting the way that it has?

I think what I covered in Minnesota with the fraud that took place and I the way I produced it is a way Where really I didn't make it a left-right issue I just prevent presented the information as it was and just went to the location to where the fraud was happening And I went and talked to the people, well I at least tried to, for those that were running the daycares and you're seeing that the billions of dollars and the billions of dollars that have been defrauded from the people of Minnesota

and from people the United States, you could physically see where that money was going, right? We had all the numbers, we had all the evidence, and these people couldn't even answer simple questions or give you a brochure to sign up my son little Joey for a daycare.

Yeah, I love when you say, so my son little Joey cannot go to this daycare. And everybody's like, I had no idea they had a son named Joey at 23. So I'm like, guys, I don't think he has a son named Joey. He's just trying to find that if it's gonna let the guy in by the way. Here's the power of where social media does today 23 years old you go and find out for yourself. You're not waiting on ABC CNN CBS any of these guys

You go ask questions after asking questions yesterday. I believe it is was it HHS Rob that came out yesterday? If I'm not mistaken, that came out yesterday, if I'm not mistaken? They came out yesterday and they stopped $185 million of funding to Minneapolis because of the video you posted. So watch this, folks. This is a byproduct of what Nick surely did on December 26th.

Go ahead, Rob.

Hello. I'm HHS Deputy Secretary Jim O'Neill. I'm here with Assistant Secretary Alex Adams. Alex oversees the Administration for Children and Families. Intrepid journalists have made shocking and credible allegations of extensive fraud in Minnesota's child care

programs. We believe the state of Minnesota has allowed scammers and fake daycares to siphon millions of taxpayer dollars over the past decade.

My office, ACF, provides Minnesota $185 million in child care funds each year. That money should be helping 19,000 American children, including toddlers and infants. Any dollar stolen by fraudsters is stolen from those children. Yesterday, I spoke directly with the director of the Minnesota Child Care Services Office. She could not tell me with confidence whether those allegations of fraud are isolated or whether there's fraud stretching statewide.

Today we have taken three direct actions against the blatant fraud that seems to be rampant in Minnesota. First, I have activated our Defend the Spend system for all ACF child care payments across America. Starting today, we require a justification, receipt, or photo evidence before we make a payment.

You can't stop it, right? Second. So the idea is $185 million stop, because you independently went out there and created this content, exposed it to everybody, and then allegedly, was it today that CNN came after you, or was it yesterday?

Yeah, today they put a heap, a hit piece out on me.

And when did they interview? did CNN come an interview yesterday? Yes, today did it yesterday? I showed up at quality leering center. Is this the one? Yes So this is you you show up you're in Minnesota yesterday. Yes at the quality leering center. We got to say correctly By the way, his sweater he's got on if you guys want to Purchase the sweater. We're gonna put the link below as well to the Quality Leering Center. It's becoming a hot commodity. Rob, let's make sure you put the link below as well to support what he's doing here.

But here's CNN. It doesn't look like they're happy for you doing their work. When they first came up to you, were they friendly? Were they nice to you? What was the approach that they took?

Yeah, the lady came up to me very friendly and then she kept asking me these questions. I'm like ma'am you're defending fraud. Like what are you talking about? like the issue is Wasn't this you wasn't what time I showed up to the daycare the issues that this building right here is receiving 1.9 million dollars It's not even operating and they're showing face right now while they're literally shuffling in kids Wow that the Commissioner of Children is saying the daycare was closed last week

That that's pretty wild. Okay, so play the play this clip Rob. Go ahead.

This is MAGA YouTuber, Nick Shirley back at a daycare in Minnesota. He alleged was a fraudulent

facility in a now viral video. If you are going to say this is a left or right issue, but no,

fraud is fraud. I'm not out here trying to put a twist on things.

Shirley's viral video released over the weekend in which he says he's uncovering tens of millions of dollars in fraud at Minneapolis daycares run by the Somali community was retweeted by Elon Musk and Vice President J.D. Vance. In the video, Shirley tries to open locked doors and talk to people at various daycares he claims are frauds.

Did you come during their normal operating hours when you came to visit the I came at 11 AM?

I believe and I also came the following day later in the day. The point of it is not whether or not I came at the right at the right time of their operation hours. The point is it blacked out doors.

They can't give you any information. You call that number. No one answers. I wasn't trying to go inside and there should be a way for somebody to actually be able to call that number and somebody be able to answer. These aren't real businesses.

But surely you don't think a daycare should just be unlocked. You shouldn't be able to just walk into a daycare.

There should be a reception.

No. Every daycare is locked.

And so, okay, you bring up a fair point. Then why can't they actually give me information how to enroll a child? Federal law enforcement has been investigating fraud in Minnesota for several

years. Both attorney general Pam Bondi and FBI director Kash Patel sat on social media. They've indicted dozens of defendants. DHS has posted multiple videos of agents they say are conducting a massive fraud investigation. Do you think that federal law enforcement hasn't done enough? I mean,

they would say, look, these fraud cases have been going on, but they've already done like 80 indictments. The cases have been going on.

So funny.

They're defending Trump now.

For years. One day, Minnesota and go to all these daycares, no children. They're receiving millions of dollars. We encourage nearly 100 million, 110 million dollars in fraud in one day. allegations that you're making are true. How do I know that they're true? Well, we showed you guys that we showed you guys what was happening and then you guys can go ahead and make your own

analysis. We're coming so we can make our analysis. Are you 100% sure you're true? Yeah, I am 100% sure I'm true. CNN is looking into Shirley's claims. Hi, my name is Whitney Wilde. I'm a correspondent for CNN. We reached out to several of the daycares featured in the now viral video only one daycare facility answered and said they are validating your point. Have you seen that the videos, you know, purporting that some of these daycares don't have kids inside. Minnesota Republicans say despite the new focus from the Trump administration, they have been sounding the alarm on fraud for years. You know, we have talked about fraud. We have gotten stories. We have we've

tried to push this forward every way that we can.

So this is yesterday in Minnesota.

Yeah. Yesterday in Minnesota.

Wow. And, and you went back to Minnesota because you just told me that you're working on a part two yourself.

Yeah.

Cause there's a lot more fraud.

How much more did you find?

Oh, we found a lot more businesses that don't exist. There's millions of dollars. We found daycares with more million dollar daycares. I mean, there's literally hundreds of daycares receiving millions of dollars in Minnesota at this moment as we speak.

So from the first one, you guys were over $100 million of fraud that you found, right? With the second one, now the recent one that you were there yesterday, how much more did you guys find yesterday?

I have to do all the numbers, which I'll do when I do all my editing, but at least around at least another $10 million.

Another $10 million. Okay, so on the other side, while you're doing this, what caused you, and we see this man named David, right? We keep seeing this man named David, who I think yesterday he said if you want to put $100,000 for anybody that can prove any of this wrong because this is government document how did you and David if Rob is this the clip where he says that yeah you want to play this clip of David $100,000. If you can. A hundred thousand dollars. If you can just prove my information. So give me a copy of what you have and I can.

If you can just prove my information.

A hundred thousand.

A hundred thousand.

Page by page.

Come on girl.

Just keep your video on it.

And just screenshot it while you're going.

Let me know when you got it.

All those people are there

Yes, they're not on your side no how many of those people are on your side right there None of those people you're hearing in the background just you and David and the camera just me and Dave Yeah, I was Mike. I was my cameraman. So who's recording you there? That's somebody doing a live stream. That's from them

That's not even yours. That's that kadra. I'm sure that's recording. Yes

Yes So how did you and David get linked up David messaged me on Instagram and out of the hundreds of DMS I get I just Opened David's and he had all the proof because I've known about the fraud happening for so long in Minnesota since back in June. I've known about the fraud, but it's hard for me to go out and get all the information because they make it very hard to get the information.

Luckily, David had somebody inside of Capitol who has been leaking him all the numbers, leaking him all the information.

Somebody from the Capitol in Minnesota.

Yes. So all the numbers that David has are 100% correct and also they're on the state, also they're from the government, from the state. But David told me he knew the numbers and I said, okay, I'm coming to Minnesota, let's do this video, line out some of the daycares you'd like to go see, because I know about the fraud. I knew that the fraud was happening.

I just needed somebody like David to come that's lived it to be able to really solidify my claims and my ideas about the fraud that's happening. And you saw the video, everything we said was true.

And this is David explaining the fraud, right Rob? This is in front of Minnesota. Go for it.

Massive fraud is going on here in the state of Minnesota, especially in Minneapolis.

Explain to me what's going on with the daycares.

So one of the things that I've noticed is there's an exceptional number of childcare centers that are set up mostly in Minneapolis but also in St. Paul. And I said, wow, this I mean, how many kids are there in the Twin Cities? Some of them are by my office and I would watch and I said, well, there aren't any kids there. And I go to another one. There aren't any kids there and I'd see just some guys, some Somali guys outside smoking cigarettes. So I stopped at one of them and I

said, Hey, I'm just wondering, I've got a grandson who's looking for childcare and I wonder if this might be a good facility. And they said, no, we're all full. we're all full we're all full and they had the door open and I looked and there were no kids there was like a couch and a table with a couple chairs and I said well are the kids out back playing or what kind of place is this and the guy said you go you go and he almost pushed me out the door and then he followed me down the street to my car and that's when I said

wait a minute there's some going on here and that's gotta be maybe five years ago. This fraud is so massive. When the dust settles on this, it's gonna be found to be the largest fraud in the history of the country and probably the world. It's that big.

You can pause it right there.

Is that true that genetics is, that's genetics right there? Is that mom? Yes, it, my mom. So now good for you, you got great genes. You know, she's very comfortable doing this as well. Very cool. So the largest fraud in the world in America on what he's talking about, I hope I hope we get to the bottom of this. So you and David get linked up. And then you just said, Why don't we just go interview? That's

kind of how it started. Yeah, I thought I thought when we go like, we'll walk these daycares, we'll talk to them, but the first daycare we go to, all the windows are blacked out. I tried to open the door and nobody answered. I ring the doorbell, nobody answered. That daycare, they had two daycares running out of that same building. They had two different contracts of more than a million dollars for these daycares.

I was very shocked to see that the response from the public after that was oh why is he going and knocking on these doors? Because millions of dollars are going there we have a responsibility to know where our dollars are going but it just went to show that the fraud is insane and then the people are saying well that daycare is closed well how can there's a sign that says it's open seven days a week from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.

Is that what it says? Yeah. So the one that the CNN reporter claimed that you came after business hours, that you said you came at 11 to 5 o'clock, they have a sign that says they're open Monday through Sunday.

That one right there. The first part in the video.

Open seven days a week. What is it?

Zoom in a little bit, Rob.

I can't because it's a video, but it says open seven days a week, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. It says that right on the sign. Right there. Got it. This is the Mako, what is it called? Mako Child Care Center? Yeah. Is that another misspelled Mako or is that really the name?

I don't know but what's funny about that is there's actually two child care companies inside that same building but they're not showing the the second one and so they have two child care businesses operating that same room. Within the same place? Yes. And how much money are they getting? This one together over the past few years, they have it right there, but combined, they received over $5 million. Stop it.

Just that one building alone.

And so what is the business model? Somebody just stays there all day, no kids, and they just take the cash? Yeah, that's why all the windows are all boarded up, or why they're all blacked out. Now let me ask you Nick, there was a video from 2019, is it 2019, 2020? You know the video where parents would come, drop off the kids and then take the kids out a minute later,

not even drop them off, come in, register, then they leave, you know which video I'm talking about,

Rob?

And allegedly, they were getting paid, that's the one right there, what year is that video from it says 2015 March 31st of 2015 this is from 15 yes that they've been doing this so this is a surveillance maybe you can narrate to the audience what's going on

here yes so basically what they're doing inside these daycares I don't doubt that there's one or two or a few children inside these daycares it'd be very stupid to be receiving millions of dollars not bring at least a few kids to daycare every day, right? But what they're doing here is they're bringing in children and then they're then just leaving after a few minutes of being inside the daycare. And I don't know if this is the same video where it shows the guy giving the cash to

the ladies working.

Do you have the audio on there?

So there is one that says cash, that's the, they're showing that. Oh, there it is. Same case. He's handing out envelopes of what are believed to be kickback payments to parents who are in on the fraud. Where was the money going?

I don't know exactly where it went, but it.

Order for the scheme to work the daycare center.

You gotta be kidding me. So I'll come in, I register my kids, you're able to write them off to make money off of. You send that to the Minnesota government, hey, I have this many kids, then they get paid, then they come and give a kickback to the parents. So the problem with this is,

these parents are no longer gonna get payments, and someone's gonna call somebody out. And this has been happening for over a decade. It's not like this is a new thing that's happening. How many whistleblowers have been emailing you, DMing you, texting you, getting ahold of you?

How many more whistleblowers have gotten ahold of you and David?

Yes, so many people have been reaching out. It's been almost overwhelming to go through all the messages but the people of Minnesota are so fed up with this fraud because now finally somebody's actually getting it out to the national level. Because local journalists have been talking about it for years, but they've never been able to get it out to a national level like I was able to do. And so just the millions of dollars, and if you talk about why they're just giving them

cash, it's because the money they receive is tax exempt, CCAP funding, and then these women that are working inside these daycares, my assumption is that they're not actually on payroll, and that's why 81% of the Somali population's on welfare inside the state of Minnesota, is because they don't actually receive a W-2 or 1099,

whatever it would be, to claim that they're actually receiving an income, because if you're running a daycare of a million dollars, you should be able to pay your person a salary of at least $50,000 you know what I mean? But none of that is documented. No, not that I know of because why it doesn't make sense why there's so many people on welfare if they're making

millions of dollars. Yeah so the first day this came out you know people on Twitter were talking about it the second. The third day, Kash Patel responds to it and I'm sure you saw the tweet on here, hey, the FBI is aware of the recent social media reports in Minnesota, however, even before the public conversation escalated online, the FBI had searched. So he sends this tweet, right? It's dismantle $250 million in fraud, etc., etc. And then finally, it got to a point that it was so viral that everybody had to cover it. And they barely started covering it yesterday.

I don't even think they did on the 29th. I think they started on the 30th. CNN, ABC, CBS, a lot of this other stuff. Has Kash Patel or anybody from the White House reached out to you yet?

No, Kash Patel hasn't. Other people have reached out as far as like, hey, do you want to come with us to see what's happening or do you want to see what's happening? A lot of people have sent me messages on X. I mean, Mike Johnson was talking about it. And JD Vance talked about it. Attorney General Pam Bondi talked about it. Everyone's talking about it.

I mean, literally, the GOP was using a video referencing my video on their Instagram yesterday. The GOP was? The GOP official Instagram account.

I mean look, the vice president responded, this dude has done more useful journalism than any of the winners of the 2024 Pulitzer Center Prize the VP has given you. But the FBI hasn't reached out to you at all?

No, I mean, I think I can't, there's been so many people that have messaged me, but there's people who are wondering how I got my information from the government and I've been willing to say like yeah I got from David if I talk to David. Here's David's contact info but I I Don't know how the government doesn't have all this information. It's kind of like surprising to me

So you're surprised that the government doesn't have this information? Yeah, they're reaching out to me to figure out what's going on.

A few of them are.

Really?

Yeah.

Pretty high up with high officials?

Not the high officials, but the departments.

Departments are reaching out to you to see how you got it? Yeah. So are they reaching out to you asking how you got it because they want to catch the person that's blowing the whistle or are they reaching out to you because they want to actually find out the work that you're doing, like some access to the information that they don't have themselves?

Well, I think they're trying to figure out how to go about this fraud because it's so big and so massive because it's not just the daycares, it's the home health care, it's the transportation companies, it's the people, it's the translators at the at the hospitals. It's so vast and big that the network is massive So I think they're trying to get an understanding of how big it is And that's why you hear them talking about we've had fraud for years Tim waltz literally admits to the fraud He's been talking about fraud for he admit to fraud yesterday, and he said it's been happening for years, okay?

If it's been happening for years, why don't you stop it? He said this yesterday. There was the one clip that he moved the flag and there's a whole thing about how Minnesota changed its flag to look pretty much identical to Somalia's flag. If you've not seen this, take a look at this. First this is the clip of that. You can play this clip and then we can go match in the flag. Old flag to the new flag.

So this is the old Minnesota flag Right Rob. That's the Minnesota flag the old one and he replaces it with the new flag. I Believe that's the new Minnesota flag. I don't think that's Somalia's I think that's their new flag, but if you go to the picture next to you on X, you see how it says go next? Right there, right there, yeah. Look at that. They changed their picture. That's the old Minnesota flag on the top left.

The bottom left is the new Minnesota flag. And then go look at Somalia's flag on the right. You tell me if you see any similarities. So they changed their flag. Minnesota.

Nicest people in the world is what they're supposed to be, to the Somalia flag. And then Tim Walz is sitting out there talking about that, they've been dealing with this for many years, yet he was bragging, if you have that one clip when he was debating with JD Vance, that they are opening up the most daycare centers and record-breaking daycare centers and they're doing such a good job.

This was in the debate folks. Watch this. We in Minnesota passed a paid family medical leave. You have a child, you, and I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born. This allows you to stay home a certain amount of time. What we know is that gets the child off to a better start, the family works better, we stay in their employers, we get more consistency in that. So Kamala Harris has made it a priority. We implemented it in Minnesota and we see growth. That's how you become a pro-business state.

And so a paid family medical leave program, and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them. As far as childcare on this, you have to take it at both the supply and the demand side. You can't expect the most important people in our lives to take care of our children or our parents

to get paid the least amount of money. And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business and then to make sure that folks are able to pay for that. We were able to do it in Minnesota, and I'm still telling you this.

We were listed as the best state. We're still in crisis on this. A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our workforce enhance our families and make it

Easier to have the children that you want so in this debate He challenged you if you want to find that go there you took up the challenge

Yes, you went there took up the challenge and maybe he shouldn't have said that. Yeah, he should have said a lot of things He's not the brightest guy. So what what?

So the FBI hasn't reached out to you. You guys are continuing to go out there and do your thing. And by the way, if some of the people that are watching this, if you have any questions and you want to support the work, because you have to realize, Nick, you're not part of CBS. No, you're not ABC.

You're not CNA. You're not Fox. You're not part of anybody. A guy asks you a question, who do you work for? Myself. You know, who pays you? Myself. You make money off YouTube, don't you? Yeah, that's how I make my money.

I make my money off my YouTube channel. This is what I've been doing for many years. But if some of you guys are watching this and you want to support him, either go buy this sweater that he has here, or number two, manect him if you have any other questions or things that you're working on, if you want to be in contact with him, you have other information that's coming in. Imagine he's getting tens of thousands of emails and DMs right now. He can't get through everybody.

But if you have something that you want to do with him, have a conversation with him, he's officially on Manect as well, Rob. If you want to put up the QR code, it's the link below. Are they seeing it right now? Yeah. is in the description. So let's go back, Rob, can you go to Nick's YouTube channel? Can you go to Nick's YouTube channel?

I kind of have an interesting story if you look at my YouTube channel.

I want to hear about it because the average person maybe who doesn't follow you, we know who you are, we know the great work you do, but the average person who doesn't know you, can you kind of share with them your story of how you got started to eventually doing a video like this. This is not the biggest first big video you've done on YouTube You've done many of these but how did you get started? Yeah, I've been doing YouTube ever since I was a sophomore in high school

I remember 2017 start watching people like Logan Paul or you start watching other vloggers And I thought well I can do this like I want to go I want to have like this lifestyle I want to have a fun time and be able to record these memories I started making YouTube videos in high school and it was just high school pranks, stunts, you name it. Sneaking into Jake Paul's wedding, doing just like.

Sneaking into Jake Paul's wedding.

Yeah, just like doing the typical like YouTuber stuff at that time. And I had like little success, but I could never reach like the next level. I moved to LA, pursued YouTube. I'd do collabs with people who had 10 million views, they'd look at my analytics and they'd be like, Nick, what's, they'd be like, wait, how's this,

how are you not blowing up, like all your, every, all your analytics, like, should, your channel should be blowing up, but I, for some reason, YouTube would not push my, push my content, no matter how good my click-through rates were, how good my attention graphs were, wouldn't give me an opportunity. But in hindsight, I think it was God just holding me back

to help me learn and then propelling me to where I'm at now. But based off of what I was doing on YouTube, and I kind of got really interested in the politics when I graduated high school and I started seeing how the world was working and how crazy and how, especially during COVID,

how people could use information against you, how they're censoring you. And I remember I started making more political videos on my YouTube channel. And anytime you'd put the word Trump in your YouTube channel or on your video, they would demonetize you,

which means you can't make money. And if you can't make money, you can't do it. And so you literally could not use Trump's name in a thumbnail or in a title and receive compensation for your work on YouTube. And then after that, I ended up going on to a two-year mission for my church. And I made a plan on my mission, exactly how I wanted to come back, what kind of videos

I wanted to do.

Where was the mission?

In Chile, Santiago.

And you said mission with the church? Yes.

Which church? I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints

Let me tell you man. That is such a massive edge massive edge so you know They they would send I work with a lot of folks from the LDS state presidents a lot of guys So I read all the Gordon B Hinckley John Huntsman all these major names the Cleon Skousen, I think is also a LDS author. He wrote a book called The Naked Communist.

He was a former 15-year CIA. And the FBI and the CIA would come and try to learn from Mormons on how they would teach a language for somebody that would go on a mission for three weeks. Or within three weeks, four weeks, you're learning the language.

How much did you going on that mission make you fearless to be able to do the journalist, citizen journalism you're doing right now?

Yeah, I've always been fearless in a way, like I was the younger brother.

My brother...

So that's your older brother.

Yeah. Okay. So I was the younger brother, I was trying to impress my older brother. If we're bike jumping, we're going snowboarding, Nick you're also jumping. I love it. I love it. And, uh, but on my mission you also, you also just talk to thousands of people and you have such little success for how much work you put in as far as like you're talking to a thousand people, you might get a few, a hundred to say, yeah, let me sit down and have a discussion

with you. Did you speak, how long did it take you to speak the language? I learned Spanish in about Six weeks I could start having conversations in six weeks. You learn Spanish Yeah, and I knew it when I was younger and then I forgot it and then I learned it back up in six weeks Can you speak now or no? Yeah, I speak fluent Spanish seriously. Yeah, I have a full-on conversation with the president So maybe in Spanish give a message to Tim Walz. What would you say? Tim Walz, he is very bad, very stupid. He doesn't know how to do anything.

Literally, he is very stupid and doesn't know anything.

There you go, Tim Walz. If you're paying attention, that's a message here from a young 23 year old man. So you come back from Chile, you're making a decision,

what you want to do when you return with your YouTube channel, then what happens next? Yeah, so on the mission I came out with a plan, like the videos I wanted to make, because I wanted to get more into kind of showing things for what they are. On your mission, all you do is talk to people, right? And I saw a lot of effects of mass migration, especially on my mission from people fleeing Venezuela.

And so I was super curious, like what's happening in Venezuela? How come people are like moving around you always hear about migration of animals, but you never hear about about humans And so then when I come back to the u.s. I Had no money from after my mission. I had like six thousand dollars and so I

Didn't knew I knew I needed to make ten thousand dollars to be able Fund my youtube channel for a few months because then I didn't think I was gonna be able to make enough money The first few months I knew I needed to get to $10,000. And so I went and power washed houses for a month, made $10,000 in cash, and then I went to AmFest in Phoenix to go interview people. I went all by myself. I just set up a tripod, interviewed people, and from there I went to the border.

And at the border, I was the first person to ever really go to the border and interview

people as they were crossing the border in Spanish. Which one is this by the way? Is there a clip here if you type in Nick Shirley border?

Yeah, if you just go to, like that's a few of them, but that wasn't the first one. Yeah, I interviewed illegal migrants at the US border.

This is you?

Yeah.

How old are you here?

21.

So this is two years ago? Yeah. You're the first person that goes there?

Yeah, I'm the first person to show people that people are literally just walking over, being trafficked over, and I'm interviewing them, and these people are as proud and happy to be coming to the United States. I was fearful when I went down there. I was like, okay, aren't these people supposed to be running? Like they just crossed over the border.

But no. Wait, they're not worried, they're just.

They were so thrilled. And then I went and watched them go sit down and get picked up and shuffled across the country. And I tracked even one of these ladies down from the border to New York City and I tracked her down because she gave me her WhatsApp and I was like, how did in one day you go from the border to America's biggest city? And then from there kind of...

You're by yourself here, Nick.

Nobody else is here with you.

Yeah, I'm all by myself. Let me tell you how many millions, tens of thousands of young boys, young men are watching this saying, if this guy's got this kind of courage, I cannot tell you how many people you're probably inspiring right now with the work because it takes fear to do this. There's a guy Rob, if you go to my Twitter account, there's a guy named, I don't know if you saw this tweet from him yesterday.

I think you did. No, you did see it because you commented on it as well. This guy named Josh Gerstein. Okay, Josh Gerstein is somebody that's been a go a little bit right there, right there. If you just type on his tweet, look what he says, who is this guy? Okay, so you should know this guy's been around. He is a well, not not not you should know he's a he's an establishment mainstream media

guy. At some point, the amateur effort to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand your ground laws. So you know what he's saying. Somebody can attack you. Now look what Twitter on the bottom readers added to it.

Stand your ground laws remove the duty to retreat from a threat when a person is in a place, you have a legal right to be knocking on doors of a supposedly public business does not constitute a threat so stand your ground could not be invoked as a defense. That's Twitter responding to it. If you go to my response to it, above Rob, if you go to just go back, yeah, there you go.

And I said at some point, amateurs have to do the job that professional journalists refuse to do. That's what's called courage. Can you go Google him to see who he is, Josh Gerstein? Because he's not a regular guy. This is a guy that's been around the block for a while.

Go to his Wikipedia. Go to, maybe put his name on YouTube. This is a political guy. If you type his name on YouTube, you go a little bit lower, you see right there it says Josh Gerstein, political. He's been on media all over, you know, for many, many years. This guy's calling out a 23-year-old, which the reason why I did this is because the video

you're showing me right now back on the border, go to the border video he just had up a minute ago, it takes courage to do this. Your brother's not with you, your family's not with you. Not a friend is with you.

No, I'm all by myself.

What did your family think when you said, I'm going out here to the border?

A lot of times I don't tell them, especially when I'm going to go do a video.

I'm sure mom loves this.

I don't tell them. But I'm going to go do something until it's done. at that point, but yeah, I think everyone was shocked. I mean, I was down there and some guy who works for Border Patrol, he's like, what are you doing? Like, don't you know there's a cartel war on the other side?

The Border Patrol guy's telling you that.

Yeah, a guy who used to work in Border Patrol. He's like, don't you know there's a cartel war going on the other side? I'm like, I don't know, like I'm giving these people like food. I thought these people were like starving. I thought they were like coming over, like just fleeing. I was like giving them food, talking to them, like I give a kid a shirt off my back so he could have a new shirt when he came over.

Like I thought like these people were like fleeing and coming in, but they were just being trafficked by the cartel. And so yeah, I just went up there and started doing journalism and then outside of this Rob if you go back to his channel

It's it's important if you go to Videos and then go to popular. Okay video popular zoom in a little bit Rob The most popular video on YouTube you did is not even the Minnesota one That's your sixth most popular video. The most popular one is you went inside C cut the mega prison full of deadly gangsters That's an El Salvador, right? Then you infiltrated Rio Brazil's most dangerous gang,

that's you right there interviewing somebody, okay? Then you went inside America's city of zombies, Kingston, Philadelphia, then inside world's most unconventional prison, this is again El Salvador, then Los Angeles has fallen, anti-ICE protesters take over, and then it's the Minnesota video that you've

done. So for those that don't know, you've been doing this for a minute and it's grown in the last couple years to a million subs. How many subscribers did you have on YouTube early this year in January? In January I think I had like 300,000. 300,000 subs. But since I've been home for my mission Which has been two years I came home. I had twenty thousand subscribers now

I just hit a hundred and one million 1.2 million subscribers 1.2 million subscribers

Unbelievable and and while you're doing this are you seeing? Others that are doing because I saw something with Ohio right wasn't there something with Ohio another thing with Kent, Washington Are these your friends or these are just others that are independently being inspired to do the same?

Um, like I wouldn't say some of them are my friends but a lot of them are so probably just inspired by what I'm doing and they're just, I would say they're like fellow comrades I guess. Like mutual respect for each one. I try not to give all my information to people because I try not to give all my information to people because the reason why I've had my success is because how I go about and do stuff. So I'm not just like telling people to go and copy me.

I think there's like an art form and if you want, there's a way to be inspired and there's a way to just copycat people.

Yeah. I will tell you, either way, I think it's phenomenal. Even if other guys are saying, and I want to go to what Nick does, go at it because you can't be in 300 places at the same time, right? You have to be in, you know, you can, I'm looking at your eyes. You know what your eyes are telling me right now? You haven't slept a lot.

No, I haven't slept the past three nights. I probably slept like 10 hours.

Yeah, that's what it looks like. But that's what 31st. Okay? It's December 31st. It's New Year's Eve. He's not from Fort Lauderdale. Okay? What is a 23-year-old doing in a city he's not to just come on a podcast? You know, he could say, well, you know, the average 23-year-old, you know, why don't we

do January 2nd after the New Year's? No. Hey, Nick, I want to do a podcast. I want to sit down and talk to you. Let's figure it out. I'm in Minnesota. Rob calls. Boom, boom, boom.

He's in here in town. We're doing. These are things that, you know, most investigative journalists would do, would need to do. You would expect people like this to do it. But today, the biggest competition they have is independent journalists that are willing to go out there and be edgy, that are willing to go out 10 hours of sleep in 3 days to expose a story. So I'm proud of the work that you're doing.

There's a lady that made a video and said, Nick Shirley, please, if you see this, did you see this video? Rob, can you play this clip? Watch this, folks.

Go ahead, Rob.

Nick Shirley, I hope you see this video. Please come to Columbus, Ohio. The reporting you did in Minnesota was amazing. Thank you for that. And if you come to Columbus, Ohio, you will find the exact same fraud. You will see the exact same things.

Daycares everywhere, the home health care. I mentioned that in my video. I do not have your bravery to go out here and knock on doors like you did. I don't even want to leave my room right now, okay? But you could come here and do what needs to be done, please. Please investigate. Please talk to our government officials. And you see how the police escorted you out of that building? The Columbus police are on the same take, I am sure.

Allegedly. Let me say allegedly before I got the Columbus police coming after me, as well as the Somalis. It's a lot. In the meantime, please come here and investigate. You will find the exact same things

and the rest of the country needs to know that it is real. Thank you for all you are doing and please, please, please stay safe.

By the way, this is one of many videos of people that are making, asking you to come to different places. Do you have plans, because I'm sure you've seen the numbers while they're doing this. California wants to put a 5% tax on the wealthy and then they get exposed for $24 billion

of homelessness fund that they got, Newsom that nothing happened to it. The train that they said they're gonna build, 18 billion Nothing's been built yet. Not a single rail has been put there all of these things that are being exposed Some people may be saying hey Nick, maybe California, maybe New York. Maybe this are there certain places you're targeting next

Yeah, I have a whole list of places. I want to go next if especially with the fraud So mean David will be going to more cities. I'm gonna bring David because David's the man dude. Everyone loved him. Tell me why. But he's so, one, he's super smart and he just cares about the country and he cares about law being upheld. And fraud is fraud. Like it's so annoying that you have people receiving millions of dollars. Meanwhile we are all working so hard just to give our, sometimes even half of our check to the government right and so we'll be going

to more places and when you have a place like California where they just lose 24 billion dollars it needs to be investigated people deserve to know where they're going especially when it's affecting your quality of life if you're

living in California yeah there's no question about it by the way Theo Vaughn yesterday did you see what he tweeted yesterday?

Yeah, he's like, why are we paying taxes?

Why are we paying taxes? Well, if you're paying taxes, it's because you wanna see good happen with the taxes that you're paying.

Yeah, and I think what's so amazing is my journalism is actually creating change. What we saw with, what's the department called the HSI HHS HSS? Yeah, HSS. They just it's the hundred hundred

What is it hundred?

85 million dollars that they're stopping. Yeah, so what's so amazing about what I'm doing right now with my journalism Is that it's actually creating change so people are mad at me for this though You're seeing them come at me on CBS CNN and every single time they point out something they say conservative Youtuber MAGA youtuber they just can't admit that I'm creating real change inside of the country right now and never before have their one of their Investigations ever led to a point where they say oh wait We're gonna stop funding and we're gonna make sure everything's legit before we start giving them money

I mean we could that video alone. I could have just saved the country hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars.

Well, I think you did. I think what you did is a lot of people are now getting exposed and they're not happy about it. Matter of fact, there was a, when you were in Minnesota, a guy pulled up to you, right? And he says, I think I know what you're doing. Okay. I think, why don't you just say what you really want to say? Right? This is the exchange. Is this yesterday

or just a couple days ago? This is a yesterday. This is yesterday. Yeah. So we have a whole another video coming out about other father taking you have a whole new video, a whole new video. It's going to be a masterpiece because it is crazy. in each and every single time more than the first. Oh, yeah It's gonna be crazier because now the people now the Somalis were right app They were after me like they were coming and people were stopping in the middle of intersections Hopping out of their car and I had to get security for this video coming out just trying to literally attack me

I saw one of the videos that somebody tried to attack and you try to protect your camera guy Yeah, is that still part one or is that part two? There's so much going on. I don't know You know what you want I'm talking about because I saw one two clips Are you like no no you didn't let the guy? Hit your camera guy every time they were swinging at the camera guy you were standing in front of it

Yes, I think that was part one part one. Yeah could have been yeah, that was part one Part one, this one, people are literally pulling over and getting out, like in the middle of an intersection at a red light, they're stopping their car and coming out and they're just coming out and trying to slam me for being a racist, for being Islamophobic. Meanwhile, I'm interviewing another black man in Minnesota and they're calling me a racist.

Show that one video, Rob, the one with the guy saying, why don't you just tell the truth on what you're trying to do? Go ahead, Rob. That one. Yes, sir.

Why are you sensationalizing the propaganda?

What are we sensationalizing?

To attack our community. What's your final objective?

We're not attacking your community.

Are you making good money from this?

We're looking for fraud.

For instance, can you answer our question? Where's the Safari Transportation Company 607?

It's not there. How much money are you... Why don't you answer the question? How much money are you making...

Where's 617 Dreamline Security?

How much money are you making off of this?

I make money off of YouTube. That's how I make my money.

Exactly. So you're making money off of sensationalizing...

My job is...

And attacking the Somali community. reason why this is happening all right let me tell you the reason why you're attacking this. This has nothing to do with race this is fraud. This absolutely has to do with us being Muslim? No it does not. Alright and us being from Africa this is a constitutional argument so you don't want us here change the freedom of religion say listen you don't want Muslims in this country anymore. We're not saying that. No no no because when I go on to your that. When I go onto your comments, when I go onto your comments,

what I see is people that say we do not want Muslims here, kick every single Muslim in Minnesota out of Minnesota. You are, listen, you're preparing for the Somali community

to maybe be taken to concentration camps. Just for the Japanese community. You're sensationalizing. No, we're not.

We're asking about fraud.

You know, you are, what you do, you hate Muslims.

I'm not saying I hate Muslims.

You know you hate Muslims.

Why are you attacking us? Are we the only community that suffers because of fraud?

We're talking about fraud.

Are we the only community that does fraud? Listen, let me say something. This is not fraud. We have what, a thousand providers?

OK, what did he just say?

Even if it's two thousand.

Are we OK? Let it continue because it's important what he's saying here.

Sorry.

Sacrifice the safety of 80,000 people because of fucking 2000 providers.

Are you fucking mad?

Are you stupid?

You're sensationalizing One of my shooting happens in Minnesota

That's what you can't teach folks

Any Somali, any one single Somali gets hurt It's because of you Sensationalizes, you son of a bitch Sensationalizes Get the fuck out of our neighborhood

Get the fuck out of our neighborhood

Get the fuck out of our neighborhood

Get the fuck out of here

Get the fuck out of here Get the fuck out of here You can't teach courage. You cannot teach courage. You can read all the books in the world, you cannot teach courage. You either have it or you don't have it. You got it. Major props to you.

By the way, here's Newsweek. You ready? This is from AP. When he says, why don't you go target other audiences, other communities? From AP in Newsweek, Rob, if you can pull up this article, you know which one I'm talking about.

We read about this yesterday. Citing, the US Attorney's Office for Minnesota reported that Somali Americans made up 89% of those that had been charged in connection with the case of December 19. Trump has repeatedly criticized the state's large Somali community in recent weeks. Meaning, all the fraud that's happening, 89% of it was tied to that community. The new allegations follows a series of fraud cases involving government programs in the state.

The firestorm over alleged mass fraud began earlier this year and intensified in December after the state acting US attorney said $9 billion or more in federal funds allocated to 14 state-run programs since 2018 have been stolen. Again, 89% was tied to Somalis. We don't care what nationality you are. We just want to know who's doing it.

If you come to America, you assimilate, you make the place a better place, let's turn you into a flipping hero. But if you come and you steal from taxpayers, and you have the data that came up, Rob, which is so frustrating, that says, 10 years after, you know which one I'm talking about, the chart I sent it to yesterday, folks who lived in America, Minnesota, for 10 years plus, what percentage of them were still taking welfare or social programs that we have?

78% were 10 years after living in America, in Minneapolis. What do you mean 78%? 78%! These are numbers and stats that are out there. Rob, if you don't have it, I'll send it to you so the audience can see this. And by the way, while I'm looking for this, can you do me a favor while I'm looking for

this, Rob? Can you play the clip of that one guy saying, yes, you white man, yes, you white girl, you go work while I'm paying for this. Yes, you you know which one I'm talking about I'll send that to you yesterday and Entitlement's insane from the level of boldness. What is the energy while you're talking to this guy in that video? What happened afterwards did he leave the cops come that security come what happened afterwards a whole mob of Somalis came Like they stopped the street, and they're just how many people probably at least 10 and we're they did it did they at all at any point try to hit you swing at you or no

That guy kept coming after me and security had to keep getting in front of him your security or his secure my security So you have to hire security for the second time around you went to Minnesota?

Oh, yeah, I had it. I had to get I got I had to get massive security for this video I had a I had four people with me because of how crazy these people got. I mean, literally, they pushed me. That guy pushed me off the street, he came after me, and you see they try to call you Islamophobe, racist, I'm like, well, answer the question. Where is Safari Transportation? Is it right here?

Because the address says it's right here from the state of Minnesota, but it's a wiring company. It's for money. And he wouldn't answer the question. They can't, they know fraud's happening. That guy dang well knows that fraud's happening inside his place. He said, are we the only community that commits fraud? Are you only coming after us because we commit fraud?

And yeah, it's pretty wild. This is the clip of a guy, and we verified on X to see if it's real or not. This is a Somali guy. Look what he's, folks, if you're wondering, like, hey, be fair with this community, be fair with that community, and all this other stuff, it's very simple. Find out for yourself on what they're saying. Watch the energy of this guy.

What does, does this decrease your blood pressure? Or does it increase your blood pressure?

Go ahead, Rob.

You work all day, you don't got shit thank you for working so hard so I can be home all day free I can use my EBT go to work for me white boy white girl yeah go to work for me you white animals work for me and the US government is the they work for

me all of you work for me. All of you work for me. Now go to work.

By the way, I showed this to Jake. I said, is this 3D? He starts laughing. I said, is this AI? He says, Pat, that doesn't look like. Every second he's watching it, he started going like, maybe it is AI because this doesn't

sound right for somebody to talk like that. Then I had Humberto and Rob look into it. Then we went to Grok, because you know, it verifies the videos. That's an actual video. There's another video, Rob, of a guy that's at Home Depot. And a Home Depot employee's getting upset at these guys and he says, do you have all kind of cash here?

Let me throw some cash your way. Let me throw some cash your way. You should have it. I just sent it to you again. If you check your text, you'll have it. While you're doing that, Rob, can you pull up that chart? And I'm going to go to Nick on this one. If you can pull up the chart. So this is the chart.

This is a very important chart, guys.

81%.

81.

Can you tell them whatali population is on welfare, and 54% on food stamps, and 73% on Medicaid. So it's not even, and I'll tell you why there's so many that, and why they're able to do this, is for instance, just take the daycares for example. So a Muslim man, he's able to have four wives.

They go and work at these daycares. They don't actually get any tax. They don't get any, how do you say, like to get taxed. These people don't actually get taxed or they don't actually file that they're working. So they're just getting paid cash as you saw in the video. And so then when they go, so then when they go to the office and whatnot, they're able to say, well, we need money because we don't, we're not working. And so you could have up to four wives all collecting

welfare for one marriage.

What a business model.

Yeah. And they're all living inside these communities. And so their money is just getting funneled around, millions of, literally billions of dollars, is getting funneled around inside of these communities. And they're also collecting welfare on top of it.

So they don't pay for their food. They're not paying for their housing because they're all on welfare. Meanwhile, they're getting cash because the money they get from CCAP, from these daycares for instance, is all tax exempt.

And they just wait till I tell you guys about how they're moving millions of dollars to the airport and sending it back to Somalia.

Airport?

Yes. I have some, I had a whistleblower come on my new video that we're creating and inside the Minneapolis airport for years now, you can even see it Fox News covered in 2017, they have been funneling millions of dollars in cash through TSA.

Through TSA? Through TSA. I saw something about this. I'm trying to see if it's the same thing.

Yeah, I believe it probably is because they they've but they've literally receiving millions of dollars And they just send it back over to Somalia And they're they just have to get to Dubai And have to get to there they have to get to Dubai so then they can then send out that money

Yeah, here's a New York Post story Rob, Minnesota multimillion dollar day-k fraud reportedly stretches back to 2014 saw scammers Leave us with up to a million dollars a pop in cash, okay? so This story tens of millions of dollars in cash transported in luggage Started flying out of Minneapolis st. Paul International Airport around a decade ago With a marked uptick beginning in 2016 with travelers departed with a total of $84 million and another

$100 million the next year, Fox 9 reported in 2018. The troubling report has taken on explosive new significance since the Feds alleged a mind-boggling up to $9 billion of fraud scheme in which supposed businesses such as daycares were taken away. So here's a question. How much of this you think Tim Walz knew is happening?

Oh, he's known about it. That's why he's saying fraud's been happening for years. He literally knows that fraud has been happening. He is so stupid. He knows it's happening. If someone's stealing money from me and if I I'm giving them money, and they're going to

do something with it, what am I going to do? I'm going to stop giving them money. He's enabled and continued to let this fraud happen. And so is everybody else inside of that Capitol building, because they're the ones writing the checks.

Yeah, Rob, is this the clip? Because this kind of brings me to a completely different thing that I'd like some people to look into. Rob is this him talking about that he knows fraud is happening? In 2019 yep. This is a 2019 clip? Yep. Okay go for it six years ago. I want to be clear that the legislative audit report gave us a clear path. It told us that we could do better and just like Menlors I now own that and I own the fix for that but I do want to be clear before we take some other questions on this that what needs to stop is a demonization of one community involved in this. What needs to stop is

an absolutely unproven storyline that continues to resurface on the House floor that this money went to terrorists and it's targeted at one group of our citizens here of Minnesotans. We'll own that this thing needs to be fixed. We'll own that there were problems in this. We will own that there are fixes and we think we proposed the right amount,

but we're open to that to try and close this. But again, I am not going to allow folks to use this as a hammer against a group of people.

Okay, so he's not gonna allow to use this as a hammer. OK, so then the next question is, how do you think he'd benefit from it? Not just election-wise, but you think he'd benefit from it financially? How do you think he'd benefit from it?

There has to be some sort of incentive where he's benefiting from it. Whether it be he's actually receiving money or obviously the votes, but he has to have some sort of incentive to allow this to happen. Maybe he's getting somebody else rich and then he's then getting money to funnel

for his next campaign, whatnot. That's kind of how, I even had a mayor in California tell me once that that's why there's so many nonprofits is because they create these nonprofits and that money can go back to funneling somebody else's campaign.

But, so Tim Walz, he's probably receiving some sort of benefits. I know he's been to China a lot, Tim Walz. He's actually not even from Minnesota. He was born in Nebraska. I don't even know if he owns a home in Minnesota. Like I don't think he actually like physically owns a home in Minnesota.

He lives in the governor's mansion. But lots of really strange things underneath Tim Walz and why would it take if, Pat, if you're giving somebody millions of dollars and you notice that millions of dollars are going to places where they shouldn't be, how many years do you think it would take for you to solve that issue?

Six months, three to six months. You'd put the entire team behind it because you want to be able to gain credibility that we're addressing this issue and it cannot continue.

So he said six years and then 2023 he says, he's either 2023, I think he said, we're going to give them a raise. We're going to give the child care a raise in Minnesota.

Yeah, this is a little weird because the one thing when Kamala Harris was choosing the VP and you know, is it going to be Newsom? Newsom rejected it. Is it going to be Josh Shapiro They're not comfortable that he was Jewish and that you know he had some stuffed skeletons in a closet from a previous friend that he protected They claimed that was the reason right and Josh is not a fan of Kamala Harris Nobody in a million years thought it was gonna be a guy named Tim Walz

But here's what happened Rob if you want to pull this up when they announced Tim Walz What's weird is 24 hours after announcing Tim Walz, a record-breaking $36 million went into the campaign. It was a record-breaking thing that happened. I don't know if you knew this or not. Harris' campaign raises $36 million in 24 hours after announcing Walz as running mate. Where that money came from, of course, someone can investigate this. And they said this was a record-breaking number.

Who is Tim Waltz? It's not like it's a massive name. Where is that money coming from? We don't know who this individual was to be able to get this kind of money. But it gets people to question where this money came from.

Yeah, 100% that's good. It kind of goes back to my point that they'll start these organizations or start these daycares and then they can just get all this money tax free and then they can funnel it wherever they want.

Yeah, so that that is the part where how is he winning from doing this? Then there's also some people that were speculating saying, you know, Tim Walz getting in this is such a big issue nationwide with Democrats in different places. I even saw one that said Pennsylvania is also another place they're looking into. If this becomes a national thing on the Democratic side for fraud, this is not just bad for Tim Waltz.

This is bad for everybody. Yesterday, Scott Jennings on CNN, I don't know if you saw this exchange between Scott Jennings and D.R. Abbey. Yeah. Did you saw this exchange between Scott Jennings and D.R. Abbey. Yeah. Did you see that exchange? Rob, if you want to play this clip, it was Scott doing his typical thing, which is, you

know, destroying everybody on that show and, you know, the CEO of CNN. Rob, if you want to play this clip real quick, watch this exchange, folks.

Why is it that right now, everything seems to be about whether or not the people involved here are Somali even though one of the biggest people who were involved in in one of these frauds was not Somali at all. She was a white woman. So respond to that.

Doesn't that disprove everything he just argued? Well, they're obviously rounding up everybody who is involved in fraud.

No, they're not rounding up everybody. They're all talking about Somalis.

That's the point.

I want them to round up anyone who is involved in defrauding American taxpayers of what apparently amounts to $9 billion in a very, very small state. Somali, whether they're citizens, immigrants, white, I don't care. You don't care if they target one care. I want to fraud to stop.

But do you support the target of this one community or not? I support the targeting of people engaged in fraud. But do you support the targeting of the Somali American community as directed by the president? If they are engaged in fraud, that's not what he said. If data says it's the case, who cares? Go keep playing it. Should that make them immune? That's a straw man argument. No just answer the question. I did. I want anyone involved in fraud to be targeted. Anyone involved in fraud.

But not based on their ethnicity. I want it based on whether they're involved in fraud. Is it really so hard to answer that question? Yes. I want it. Yeah. Is it so hard? The only criteria. We shouldn't target people based on their ethics. The only criteria I have is fraud. Can you say, can you say, can you say that?

I can say that. Absolutely.

Everyone here can say, can you say that? Anyone who's not an employable human your fallacy. I don't agree with your stupidness.

There's another clip than this one, Rob.

There's another clip where he is just going at it with Abby. It's an exchange between the two of them. But finally, these types of conversations, is this the one? There's one that he's going with Abby back and forth and it's a very very strong exchange that they have it The point is at this point. Is this the one this is where they talk about Tim Walz?

Claiming that fraud was a white supremacy. Yeah, this is the one go ahead

Democrats who have put Somali diaspora in Minneapolis at the center of their party and their state's politics It's a small portion of population Mali, Diaspora, and Minneapolis at the center of their party and their state's politics. It's a small portion of the population. There is a bunch of fraud that goes on.

And even Tim Walz has claimed that any investigation of this fraud is akin to white supremacy.

No, he has not said that. He has said that. He has not said that.

This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you. This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. The idea of white supremacy. The idea of white supremacy.

The idea of white supremacy.

See, this is why you can't do things like that today. There's a 17-year-old kid that's a great editor that knows how to take it, find it, and he has all the time in the world, dear Abby. You can't say stuff like that with CNN anymore. You can't. Someone like a 23-year-old Nick Shirley that's fearless with courage is going to come and say, let me investigate this a little bit more if this is true or not, if he ever said

this or not.

Go ahead. Yeah, Tim Walz said it himself. He called me and everybody else a white supremacist. For simply just caring about fraud. And that's why he's allowed fraud to happen because he's so scared of being called a racist, being called an Islamophobe, and for saying things for what they are. That fraud is fraud, it's a fact that the Somali population inside Minnesota are committing 89% of the fraud.

89% of the fraud in Minnesota is coming from Somalias?

Yes.

I mean, what does that do to you? I mean, the question then becomes, from the White House, yesterday Eric Trump tweeted, I don't know if you saw this tweet, the best part about this tweet is the comments below. And Eric Trump, we're friends with Eric, but Eric tweets something and says, I don't know if you saw this Rob He says man people better get start getting right there

He said people better start going to jail in Minnesota and the most common retweet was dude Your dad's the president like meaning, you know Give him a call and do something but the reality of it is if an Eric Trump is saying People better start start going to jail, Don Jr. had you on I think last night. You were on a show last night with him.

People simply want to see if anyone's going to be held accountable or not going into 2026. Do you think with the work you're doing, you're almost forcing them to have to make a decision of people getting arrested? And if that, have you started seeing people getting worse like when? You went to Minnesota. Did you see the government there as well? Yeah, go knocking on doors

Yeah

And that was directly because of my youtube video and because of the video that went viral on X So when have you ever seen a piece from a journalist? From a youtuber that's created such a change where literally within hours they launch a full-fledged investigation To go in crack down on the fraud.

Is this one of them? Yes. Okay, Rob, can you play this? What did they find you? What's this one?

They're just going door to door. Just looking for people. Asking people about fraud. Because I guarantee inside of this business, there's probably a transportation company that's also labeled there. There could be a home health care business there.

There could be an adult daycare. And it's a grocery store. So that's how these companies are operating. I went to so many places where they don't even have the real business.

Wow.

So this could be three or four businesses. Oh, yeah. What else did you find, Rob? Have they made any major arrests? Have you seen people walking out getting arrested? I haven't seen any of that.

I haven't seen any of that yet that's taking place. I haven't seen the full on like the way 1980s when Rudy Giuliani went out there and a bunch of mobsters were getting arrested, 240 something of them getting arrested, coming out with handcuffs. We haven't seen that yet. I think that's what the American people want to see. They want to see some accountability taking place.

By the way, you know that other video that we played where the guy said, Rob, can you go to the video of the guy claiming that Nick Shirley came out of time, that nobody was here, and that's not fair because the time is this, and I'm here, there's kids here every day. I've been here for eight years. There's always kids here. There's a video right there. That guy right there.

So watch this.

Watch this video.

Go ahead.

What would you say to Nick Shirley, the YouTuber, if he was standing in front of you right now? I have nothing against him himself, but I do have something against the rhetoric.

It's, if you're gonna be a journalist, just be, have a moral compass. Like, do what you do correctly. If you catch business that are fraud, no one here is with that, like we don't support that as a community.

I don't support that myself, I was born and raised here. I'm not for fraud, the notion that, hey, a certain batch of somebody got caught. So all of them support it, it's like no. No one in any community, any mishaps that happen, the rest of the community obviously doesn't want that to happen, it's a stain on all of our names. As you guys can see, we don't want that to happen.

We don't take part in that, we don't like that,

we don't want that in our communities. But just to say hey, I saw a company got caught so they must all do it. I feel like that's what he's doing

89% by not a better one of the 10 p.m. May not be your typical daycare hours

So can you explain why it is the reason for that is we're after school hours So most of our clients not most of our guys all of our clients is after school hours

So schools earliest dismissal would be to 15 to 30 years and the latest dismissal would be up to like 4 30

That's what you know

Went at 11 in the morning and then I went back the next day at a later time And what's interesting is when he's out talking and doing this Simon simultaneously at the exact same time the Commissioner of children is saying that that daycare was closed a week ago. I filmed my video, the first one, on December 16th when it was still operating.

Your first video was shot December 16th? December 16th. That one was released December 26th?

Yes.

Okay. So it wasn't filmed over winter break. It was filmed... 10 days before Christmas. Yes, and so it was still operating as a business according to the Commissioner of Children.

Got it. And by the way, isn't this the same location that in the first 42-minute show that you did, a neighbor is like, I've never seen kids here.

Yes, a man who's been living there for eight years.

It's very important because you can tell that guy's just being straight up. He's like, no, I've never seen anybody here before. I'll find a time for you, Rob, if you want to look for it.

It's time stamped on my YouTube.

Okay.

Just go to...

On your YouTube.

Yeah, go to his YouTube channel.

So...

It's about at...

What do you guys...

That's taking place here in Minnesota.

Go to 1630.

I don't think I'm... Okay. And, um, but basically this guy's been living there for eight years. He's never seen a single child.

Press skip rock to the right. Okay. If you go...

Go out one more minute up.

Up fast forward or behind?

Forward.

Keep going. Keep going.

This is a lady that thinks you're ice. Yes. and they also spelled Nicolette wrong. Like these guys are incompetent. And by the way, right there, pause it for a second,

pause it for a second. And by the way, they responded to why the Leering Center, they said the printing company made that mistake. And then Rob asked the question, if they made a mistake, why did you put them in the first place? And then they said they went back and they were going to change it.

For eight years. Yeah, but watch this. So that same place where the man says, for eight years, kids are here all the time. This is what a neighbor said of what he's seen at this place.

Go ahead, Rob.

Have you ever seen children at that daycare center right there?

Where?

Yeah, it's right there. It says the child, you've never seen daycare. I haven't seen anybody in here. We're going to educate you on something. So what do you think about this daycare center? They spelled learning wrong. They've received over $1.9 million this year alone, and they're supposed to have 99 children

here.

I don't see it. 99 children.

Have you ever seen any children here? None. Last year they got 1.9 million, last year they got 1.5 million of your tax money for 99 children. We just want to know where are the kids?

Right.

Where are the children?

I don't see them. I've been here since 2017, I haven't seen anybody like that here.

You've never seen a child here?

Nope, not at all.

And so you've never seen a child here for eight years? Nope, not at all. And how does that make you feel, knowing that this place is receiving 1.9 million dollars? Disgusting. Then you walk over with you?

I mean, what the hell? They're stealing the money.

That's a federal grant, too.

Yeah, I heard on the side. If they get caught for that, it's a federal offense.

I know, I studied law.

And do you think Tim Walz should go to jail for all the fraud that he's enabled here in

his state? This guy be held accountable for this. I mean, there's no rhyme or reason what's going on here. It's simple, it's nothing there. It's a parking lot.

And look, they even spelt learning wrong on their sign for a place that's supposed to be educating children.

Children.

Gee, that's crazy. I mean, who runs it? Who's supposed to be runs it?

Somalians.

Oh my God.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Who is he by the way? He was just walking around. He was just walking to go get his coffee.

I've never seen nobody here at all.

So he's walking around going to get his coffee, he sees you and you pull him aside.

Yeah, that's how all my videos work.

So you just gotta start talking to the guy.

Yeah.

So this is a guy that lives in that area, works in that area since 2017 and he's never seen kids in that property. Never. And by the way, that guy that responded to you and he says, I have nothing against Nick Shirley, I just say there's got to be some kind of a journalistic integrity. Can you go to the other clip, another independent Instagram account.

This is the craziest thing.

Did you see this one?

This is crazy.

Okay, so check calling out Nick Shirley. Look what ties. Can we give credit to this content creator? What's Rob? I can't 47 years.

I can't see it.

Sabrina Kosmos.

Okay. Sabrina Kosmos. She sounds it's a Greek last name. Maybe it's different. But here's Sabrina showing something that I think we should be interested in. Go ahead, Rob.

Am I going crazy or is this the same guy? Is the manager of the infamous Learning Center in Minneapolis also one of the guys that was dancing in the back of Mayor Jacob Frey's election victory video? The one that went super viral where he thanks his constituents in Somali for reelecting him last month? Ibrahim Ali claims to be the manager of the Quality Learning Center and says that there is no fraud going on whatsoever there.

He very well may just have a doppelganger who happens to look just like him that lives in the very same city he lives in. Or he could be one of the Somali community leaders who is working with local electeds to keep some of these fraud schemes going. But that would just be crazy, right? I could be totally wrong to assume this, but he's got a very unique face and hairline. I mean he looks so similar to this guy going...

hypothetically speaking it would make sense that someone running a fraudulent business would have a vested interest in who is in control politically in the city where they are running said fraudulent business. and Jacob Frey is no stranger to simping for Somalia. ♪ In places in the... ♪ Hell, he even puts out campaign videos in Somali for...

My name is Jacob Frey. Where am I from? Minneapolis.

And the cherry on top is that Governor Tim Walz, after being radio silent, finally comes out and puts out a statement days later, just a few minutes ago. And what does he do? He blames Trump. Trump keeps letting fraudsters out of prison. I'm curious. Do you guys think this is a

This is the same guy that went up there like a spokesperson is the same guy that's Celebrating with the mayor has the mayor's office at all reached out to you

No, they're they're actually one guy even said because I made this t-shirt. He said oh, this is perfect. This is perfect He said this is perfect to be able to basically sue me. Perfect evidence.

Now you put that out there, the Leering sent a 1-800 fraud?

Yeah, 1-800 fraud. They're like, this is copyright infringement. I'm like, well, first off, I did you guys a favor, because it's actually learning. So I have the right to use Leering.

That is so funny.

But think about it, you literally have somebody who's partying with the mayor coming out and talking about the fraud and they just magically show up and they start busing in children. Yeah, they literally start busing in children and while the commissioner of children is saying, we closed that place a week ago, that guy, I don't know who he is, he's probably getting paid to cover face, he's the spokesperson for this mayor right now trying to make him look good. And his time's up.

We're going to and I even tried to confront him. I went to the daycare. He was there. All right. I was like, you have a perfect opportunity to talk to me right now. Come debunk all the claims.

I want to talk to you. I'll give have the video. So this is the yesterday visit that you went to? The daycare, yes. I went to the daycare, he was there. I said, oh, awesome, let me ask you some questions. You have the perfect opportunity to debunk everything. And he goes inside and I get a middle finger from a lady inside. And he goes and hides behind the door. So that guy, I don't, I gotta say allegedly, apparently, but that guy definitely is in on the fraud.

He's partying with the mayor.

So then that means is the mayor in on the fraud?

100%. They all are. If you look at all the records of these companies, that daycare center has had multiple violations over the past few years. Multiple violations, I think upwards of 10 violations. But yet, even if they were closed, they still received $1.9 million.

That is that is just and why would you ever put a child in there when there's only one door it's completely blacked out. There's no windows. There's no playground. It's just

a place for fraud. Yeah, I mean, my mind goes to a lot of different places fraud safety

for kids. Rob, what is this one here here this is the woman that you spoke about the education commission yes that commissioner of children where she talks about the daycare being closed but

they're also showing people going into the daycare on the same day let me see

it no it's a video I just want to know what's your response. Huh? Get the f*** out of here. What's your response to the allegations? Is there fraud

going on here and is there children? That's all.

We are aware of a video that's being circulated that has gained local and national attention about child care centers in Minnesota. While we have questions about some of the methods that we're using in the video, we do take the concerns that the video raises about fraud very seriously. Each of the facilities mentioned in the video has been visited at least once in the last six months as part of our typical licensing process. And in fact, our staff are out in the community today to visit each of these sites again

so that we can look into the concerns that were raised in the video. So I won't go into any detail about whether or not any of these have any open investigations. I will share that our team was notified that Quality Learning Center

closed just over a week ago. And I believe the details000 again at that time were around space concerns. And that's what was shared. The previous one I mentioned that had been closed.

You give somebody a million nine and you only visit that place once every six months. And you're surprised that fraud is happening?

Yes, and then now they're like, oh, we're gonna start sending people to go look at them. Well, obviously they're like, oh, we're going to start sending people to go look at him. Well, obviously, they're going to start putting children inside the daycares. And the other complaint people had on the Internet was, oh, he went during winter break. No, actually, on December 16th.

Right now they're in winter break and they're putting children inside the daycare. So what does that say?

That's right. That is that is a very good point meaning if they're doing it now, they're doing it to hide

Because the 16th would be the time where people are not on break you need a daycare to be available

By the way, what is have you seen?

Ilhan Omar say anything about this?

No, I have not. She's got you. I

She's been silent She was silent for three days until he was forced to say something and he said this is Based on Trump because he's letting prisoners out so Ilhan Omar recently said something about Look if they have to kick me out. I'm not afraid I will go back to Somalia I'm not an eight-year-old where you're gonna scare me. I don't think it's that one if you type in that's the one right there Yeah, watch this one 17 seconds. Go ahead Rob

I don't I don't know how they take away my citizenship and like deport me But it's but I don't even know like why that's so like a such a scary Threat like I'm not the eight-year-old who escaped war anymore I'm grown my kids are grown like I can go live wherever I want. I mean, I have-

Yeah, so I wonder how this is gonna tie her, because her and Tim Walz, Tim Walz needs her. She doesn't need him. I have a feeling that if one of them throws the other one under the bus, the other one's going down with them, period. Yeah, and Tim Walz, he's gonna have to do one or two bus, the other one's going down with them. Period.

Yeah, and Tim Walz, he's gonna have to do one or two things because he's running for reelection right now. Well, and first, Ilan Omar, her net worth has skyrocketed from negative to $30 million

since. How? Nobody knows. They're saying it's her husband.

They're saying different things,000 a year. But Tim Walz will have to do one of two things. He will either resign and try to flee and not take accountability, or he'll be stupid enough to continue to run for re-election and most likely be imprisoned.

Okay, so run a poll, Rob. Which is more likely to happen? Tim Walz resigns, Tim Walz goes to jail, Tim Walz stays in office, and what another option do you want to put on there? Or nothing happens. Or nothing happens.

Yeah.

And I hope, like, everyone's like, we need it now, but we want them to come in with such solidified evidence that they can just go and boom bring the case against him

Yeah, I hope I hope that's what's happening I hope the reason why cash has been quiet after that one tweet that he sent that and they haven't done a press conference I hope the reason why it's so quiet. It's because they're about to Do something you know what I'm saying? I hope they're about to right there. Okay, so check this out. How many votes? So let's see what the okay. So 1600 votes, let's see 2000 votes already. Wow, 49% is saying nothing's gonna happen.

That is unbelievable. 24% think he resigns. 15% he goes to jail. 12% he is reelected. But nearly 3000 votes and half the people think nothing's gonna happen to him. Do you agree with these guys? I?

Mean, I sure hope not like I like we hope that nothing happened. We hope that something happens accountability happens

Yes

well some form of accountability because if I stole a hundred thousand dollars if I stole a $5,000 from the government or if you don't pay your taxes right they're going to come after you.

They're going to come after you for $5,000 they're going to come after you. Let alone billions of dollars. 4,000 votes and still they're saying 49% nothing happens. That is unbelievable that people don't think well let me see if we run that same exact if people on X feel the same way I want to gonna run to a poll, same exact way, Rob, on my personal one, which is more likely to happen.

Can you do me a favor, Rob, and have PBD Podcast retweet it? Just keep that right there so I can write the same thing. Tim Walz resigns, okay, Walz resigns. So Ilhan Omar, nobody from the camp has reached out to you at all. No. So Ilhan Omar nobody from the camp has reached out to you at all. No, have you got any threats like actual death threats?

Yeah, well in person and also can you tell me about that? Like are they messaging you saying we're gonna get you What are they saying to you? Yeah, like they're saying Oh like Kirk you're gonna be Kirk. You're gonna be Kirk That's what they're saying. Yeah, like you're the next one. You'll be the next Kirk and It's just like are you kidding me? It's not even like I I hate what's happening right now like I feel bad for my family honestly because it's like

Yeah, like we didn't do anything wrong and yet you guys are coming after me like I'm some sort of villain, right?

So I'm like my little sister is getting phone calls. I'm like, why are you guys doing

this? Your little sister is getting phone calls?

Yeah, from like the news. I'm like, don't talk to my family. I mean, some news in India, they doxed my dad, they doxed my, they like, it was really weird. I haven't even told my dad about that because I just don't want to even bother him about it. Well, dad, you know now But like they put it like it's just like are you guys kidding me? Like Why are you guys coming after somebody for going against fraud? Like I didn't make this a right or left issue I just showed you guys that fraud was happening. And now you guys are coming after me. You're saying you'll I'll be the next Kirk

You're sick. You're literally stopping it at intersections and coming after me and trying to attack me. Like what, why are you so evil? Like what's wrong with you? Like what, why are you defending fraud? Do you like money being stolen? No. And what are you doing? You're a racist. No, I'm not a racist. I'm just telling you what the facts are. You guys are stealing money from the people that are working hard here inside the United States. I was literally talking to a black man, and then the Somali man comes out,

and he's also black, so I don't, like I can't understand what they're thinking calling me a racist. I'm having a great conversation with a black man, and then another black man comes up, and he's Somali descent, and he comes and attacks me

for being a racist. Like no, I'm not a racist. It's so stupid. And that's why the fraud has been able to happen for so long because people like Tim Walz are afraid to be called racist. And me and my generation, we're over it. Like we don't care.

Oh, I love that buddy.

Like we do not care. Call us a racist. I do not care because I am not a racist. We're just seeing that prices of homes are so expensive. I don't even have a friend that can afford a home. People aren't getting married

because of how expensive things are. And we're paying so much money in taxes, most kids are, I'm lucky because I didn't go to college, but most kids are starting their life off behind the finish, behind the starting line. There are thousands of dollars in the debt.

And so yes, we're upset because you guys are stealing millions of dollars and getting rich and then you're bragging about the white man working on TikTok who's actually the racist you're the racist You're the one saying the white man. You work white woman. You work white man. We're sick of it Nobody cares like stop committing fraud if you're gonna be here be happy to be here and work hard like we're working hard

whether you're black Mexican Asian, be happy to be here and work hard like we're working hard. Whether you're black, Mexican, Asian, white, just go and work and don't start playing this victim card and start trying to make things political about money, for instance, or don't get mad at people for making money. Like, that's why America's the greatest country in the world is because of capitalism

and we had 250 years to do it all these other countries had thousands of years to do it But they didn't do it. That's why we have to protect. What's ours?

No question about by the what was your relationship like with Charlie?

He texted me the day before the day before he got shot stop it Yeah, like he invited me on his show I was actually the last guest to ever go on Charlie Kirk show before he got shot. Are you kidding me? Yeah

You were the last guest to go on Charlie's show before he got shot and killed

Yeah, it was like an hour before he got shot. I

Didn't Rob did you know this no idea? I did not know this

And so I wasn't like personal friend with Charlie, but like that's why it hit me so hard Him dying when he text me the night before and then I was literally the last guest to go on a show

Wow

Wow, and what was the conversation about the last thing you were on with with Charlie?

Well, he just invited me on a show and then because he was going to do the debate It was his co-host Andrew was hosting the show. Yeah. That's right. I'm from Utah too and what's strange about me, I was supposed to be at that event and I was going to go do a live stream and I was even going to reach out at Turning Point to be a part of it because I'm well known in Utah and for some reason I decided to go back to New York. Or it's I would have been who knows how close I would have been up on that stage or if I was just in the

Crowd, but I would have been live streaming it

You would have been live streaming it if you were there

Wow

Who was Charlie to you yeah, I think he's just somebody that Similar to somebody like you, you know, they have have your back because you're also doing the same thing. So you have that mutual respect for him. And yeah, you might not agree with everything Charlie said, but if you think about what he did as far as the movement he created with Turning Point, I don't know if you were at AmFest last week, but it's amazing.

Not last week, last year. It's amazing to see that even one person can gather 30,000 people for a convention in one weekend right? And I think he's just more so just like somebody who's in the fight with you. Speaking truth for what they believe and not standing down anybody.

Do you have any interest in investigating and finding out what happened there and who shot him? Do you have an opinion on that?

I think it was that, I think it was gives Tyler Robinson you think it was Tyler Robinson for sure I think so because I'm from Utah the most violent protesters I've ever been around that I've been attacked by our people in Utah seriously. Yeah, why is that well in Utah? We're primarily most of us are members of Church of Jesus Christ We're Mormons we primarily support Christ, we're Mormons, we primarily support

Trump and we don't fall into the agenda of the LGBTQ+, because of our religion. You can do whatever you want, but for instance in our religion, we believe that marriage is between a man and woman. And so if you're anything that's not, if you're not a Christian, for instance, and you are in this mob mentality of Antifa, of these left-wing ideas where they think literally Trump's the devil or Charlie Kirk's a fascist,

and so if you're inside of Utah, and you're somebody who does not believe in that and you're not happy You're in the worst place you could possibly be For yourself, and that's why you're that's why people in Utah have For the liberals are so crazy in Utah, and that's why there's been two killing political attacks in Utah this year I had no King's protest somebody got shot and killed. I was supposed to be at that as well and

They killed Charlie Kirk in Utah. Have you investigated to see who knows Robinson? Have you talked to anybody that knows him personally? Yes

because not that knows him personally but I do have like friends that live in St. George and like his family was in his ward in his church. And so I think he was just some person who he left the church and he became like when somebody leaves the church for some reason it becomes their whole personality typically and they just become very anti-mormon and they just like their whole mission is just like their personality becomes like I'm an anti-mormon like what are you doing being a member of the church? And so that's why he was so radicalized in a way where he got to the point where he literally

thought he needed to kill Charlie Kirk. Wow. So he was previously an LDS? Yeah, I believe so. Okay. And his parents are still? I can't confirm. Got it. But I imagine so. Wow. They've left the state. They've left the state? Yeah, they're nowhere to be seen. Even the boyfriend, the transgender boyfriend, his family's left the state I've heard too.

The furry guy?

Yeah.

Wow, I hope where they went there's some fur because it's important to them.

Yeah, so like it's literally the worst spot for somebody to be if you're not a God-loving man who loves your family. Makes sense. And we're all, in Utah, most of us are all successful too. Like, there's not that much poverty in Utah.

Mormons are workers. It's the one thing. Mormons are workers. And this guy, I mean, obviously, you know, the world, especially us, we want to know more of what happened with him. I want to get to the bottom of it, and I hope they eventually do because it's causing a lot of uncertainty with certain people.

But going back to this, Rob, you had one clip that you were going to play. Go back to that one clip right there. So this clip here is the freezing of the Minnesota. Can you tell us what this clip is, Rob?

Yes, this is Minnesota State Representative Kristen Robbins. She talks about Tim Walz and his team actually being proactive in threatening to expose people as racist and Islamophobic if they expose any type of Somalian fraud in Minnesota.

And who is she?

She is a state representative for the state of Minnesota.

And she's over the fraud committee. And so she's actually in my YouTube video talking about the fraud.

She's in the part two YouTube video?

Her graphs that I showed in my first video are from her. So she connected all the dots.

Yeah, she's the Minnesota Fraud Prevention Committee Chair.

Okay, got it.

Go for it. Absolutely. We have dozens of credible whistleblower reports saying that exact same thing. That people were told not to say anything because they'd be called racist or Islamophobic or it would hurt the state. And so people tried to come forward but were shut down and that Protection of a particular community is what really allowed this fraud to flourish in Minnesota for years

But we have said very publicly that yes the bulk of the fraud we've discovered so far is in the Somali community But some of our best whistleblowers are also in the Somali community And it's really important that we get to the truth of this issue And so by failing to call it out, we allowed it to continue. And that has hurt Minnesotans tremendously, taxpayers and our vulnerable citizens.

Have you spoken to her at all? Yeah.

You have? I spoke with her at the fraud committee meeting.

This recent time when you went back or the first time?

The first time.

Oh, the video at the end where you and the young African-American man are called?

So she gave a speech, that lady at the fraud committee, and then that lady who I confronted, she was like, this is, how are we going to build trust within our communities if we're talking about this? And I said, so I was like, all right, we're going to confront that lady.

Yeah, that was very interesting at the end. So this is the end. There's Kristen Robbins right there in that red right there. Okay, so that's her. Yeah. So this is it. We're at the end of this. Rob, you want to play this clip? Go back five, play it from right here, Rob.

Republican representatives showed charts showing exactly how this fraud has been committed and who is profiting and connecting all the dots. And while the Democrat one of them spoke about how none of this is building trust and how this is a nonpartisan issue so I went confronted her after that. He has some very valid questions to ask about what's going on here in Minnesota and do you think this this fraud crosses... My name is Nick Shirley. Do you think this fraud is Republican or Democrat or just facts that fraud is happening? Well because that's what I heard you talking about.

I know what I said is that what you're talking about it as a partisan issue shows me... Well, because that's what I heard you talking about. I know, what I said is that what we're talking about is...

Because we want to build trust, but fraud is fraud, so why should we be enabling fraud

to happen here?

No, I don't think anybody is enabling fraud to happen.

No, we don't need to hold Governor Walz accountable for this.

Okay, sir?

No, no, no? Um, excuse me? Yes. Are you— If you're going to talk to me like that— Are you going to say to her, I'm a disability advocate, I get overstimulated.

I heard you, and I believe that she is—

I get overstimulated.

—to testify.

Thank you for testifying today.

No, no, no. happened so much underneath the government here. I think if you've been listening to our hearings, we've had now 10 hearings on this.

And so there's really good data from the people who both work within the administration, as well as who, both Democrat and Republicans. I think what you heard today is that the Republicans who control this committee are not actually interested in solving fraud. What they're interested in is telling a story.

This fraud has happened underneath Democrat leader Tim Walz.

There has been Medicaid fraud across the country under Democrats and Republicans. There's fraud within the Trump administration. We have, it's fraud. Private providers have made government a mark. And so every person running government, Democrats

or Republicans, are dealing with the issue of how to keep fraudsters out of our public payment. We're also dealing with veterans. We're dealing with consumers. I hope you're looking at that. If you look at UnitedHealth, currently it's being charged with defrauding Medicare. You know who runs Medicare? President Trump. Medicaid fraud is a 50-state issue. And so, again, it is not a partisan issue. There are Democrats and Republicans who are sitting in that committee talking

about it. But what you did here was the Republican chair say, she's not turning information over to the one person in government who can stop payment. And I hope you print that. Thank you for coming.

Well,

I mean, you see, you see that. How do you process that afterwards when you hear her saying that?

I'm like, are you kidding me? Like you're now you just try to blame it on Trump. Like, can you not admit fraud? She literally admitted fraud was taking place right there.

They all know fraud is happening in Minnesota, so why didn't they stop it? Yeah, I don't know. By the way, this is the poll on, where are we at on the poll with the podcast? Oh, wow. At 12,000, it's still at 49%. Well, let's go to X. Look what X is. X is even higher. The people on X are even more skeptical than YouTube. 63.7% think nothing's gonna happen. 16% think he's gonna get re-elected. Only 7.5% think he's gonna go to jail. On YouTube, 15% think he's gonna go to jail. On X, 12.8% think he's gonna resign. On YouTube, 23% think he's gonna resign. I don't know.

I don't know what's gonna happen here, but the reality of it is he's exposed. What the US government... Have you spoken to happen here, but the reality of it is he's exposed. What the US government... Have you spoken to anybody and asked them the question of what the US government has the power to do to Waltz? And how that speed is going to be? Is it a slow process?

Have you asked anybody these questions of what can happen to Waltz?

Not specifically about Waltz, but I've asked him, how come in the federal government, when we talk about what's happening inside our states, why can't we just go in and solve the fentanyl issue, for instance? We're seeing how much power states actually have inside the government when Trump wants to go and clean up a state for crime, and governors block it. You're seeing how judges can quite literally block and postpone stuff so long to the point where a lot of stuff just doesn't even happen

or sometimes people probably get discouraged to the point it's like, why even try? And so, like I said before, I think they're just gonna have to come up with a case that's so solidified that when the evidence is provided that they can't even, there's no debate for it.

But what's worrisome is in Minnesota, they found a man guilty of $7 million in fraud. He was found guilty by, he was found guilty. The judge then reversed it after he had been found guilty. So like they're all in on this fraud. Like when have you ever seen somebody get committed

for $7 million in fraud and then walk free after he was committed?

This is the one right here, Minnesota judge slammed for returning conviction of a pair involved in Medicaid fraud? Yes. And this is yesterday, this is two days ago. Go a little bit lower, Rob.

Seven million dollars.

How much is this? Seven million dollars, yeah, right there. A judge in Minnesota is currently facing back for overturning conviction of over seven million dollars of a couple who were found guilty of misuse of medical Medicaid funds to fund a rich lifestyle Oh Rob is this the one with the cars and the houses and the travel and the luxury homes or is that a different story? That's a separate story but same fraud

same type of fraud just different people different perpetrators that were doing

it. So this is not the same people? No. And where are they from that did this? Abdifa Yosef sounds like an name. So if you want to see where our friend here is from, Abdifa, go to images.

Look at the judges. It's like, why would she overturn that?

Former Al Shabaab recruit turned witness to face deportation. Go back to that one right there. you found something interesting, click on that. What date is that? Oh, that's 10 years ago. Former Twin City man who joined terror group in Somalia, later became a star witness for United States government, will be released from prison on Thursday.

I would not be surprised if that's the same man.

If this is the same man. But he isn't a free man to the abdifa Yosef I see is the first person to finish serving time for a terror related charge as part of his expansive federal investigation to al-shabaab recruitment to win cities because He is not a US citizen has been convicted of felony federal immigration enforcement Officials took him to custody Thursday and into removal proceedings had been

Zorina Pata talk said an immigration judge will hear a Rob you have the other story of the the folks who used the money to see if I got it here my you know they go so Minnesota scammers spent kids food aid on luxury cars jewelry this is December 12 news nation story if you have a day go that's one right there

funding are feeding our future yeah this is feeding our future. Yeah text messages recovered by investigators depict individuals flaunting their wealth including one photo showcasing a Box containing two hundred fifty thousand dollars in cash They use this money that was supposed to be used for feeding children to buy houses in Minnesota resort property and real estate in Kenya and Turkey, luxury cars, commercial property, jewelry and much more, former US Attorney Andrew Lugger said when announcing the indictments in

September 2022. I mean this is just insane at this point. And investigators also uncovered evidence of international money transfers with millions wired to accounts in China and Kenya. text message instructed please send a thousand dollars to Mogadishu Bacara referring to a market in Somalia previously controlled by Al-Shabaab an Al-Qaeda affiliate the location was also the site of the 1993 Black Hawkdown incident in which 18 US service members

were killed are you kidding me like we're we're funneling money and sending money to people who literally hate us. I don't know man I mean I what is the latest latest Rob? What is the latest latest like has anything even happened today? You know how the president has a reputation on Christmas Day to attack

Nigerian ISIS, you know, I haven't said anything so far. He hasn't said anything not referring to my video. No Zilch yeah So, what do you think I think he's either coming up with something where it's so solidified where something major happens and

I mean Pam Bondi came out with what she said where over 90 people have been so far prosecuted or they've gotten 90 people and 60 of them had admitted to fraud.

If I don't think- 60 of them had admitted to fraud.

Yes, found and found guilty. I don't know if that was of this week or if those were prior people, but I mean, I literally just threw the administration a layup to go in and really get people back on their side.

Have you tweeted at them? Have you sent a tweet at Kash Patel and the president and Pam Bondi and just saying something like Mayor Suarez said. Remember when Elon Musk said about what was going on in California when Newsom and some of the guys didn't want Tesla to be open during COVID and then Suarez tweeted out, how can I help? Maybe if you tweet out, how can I help?

Trump, cash, Bondi. Should we do it right now do it right now I would be because I'm willing to bet folks if you're watching this can you do me a favor? He's gonna retweet this I'm gonna retweet it. Can you go on X and just retweet this? It's a very basic question. All right. What do we want to say? I think you just pose a question. It's an open-ended question Dear, Mr. President, Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, how can I help?

That's it.

Respectfully.

Dear Mr. President, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, how can I help? I would be curious if anybody reaches out to you. Because if you're doing part two, you were just there yesterday, because I saw the first one there wasn't much snow, the second one there was more snow when you went there, it seemed like it was colder. And now you're having a hard time even going in the streets without security because people kind of coming after you.

Well now people are going to think I'm? How can I help? Very open-ended

Very open-ended. I'm just curious because what makes your yeah, there it is. What makes your Approach different is your your you're a good guy who's curious who wants America to be better Let me let me go to I can retweet it.

Everybody watching, y'all better go retweet that. I don't want people to think I'm a fed.

Well the good news is, now you're being, there's documentation. Oh, okay, it's already got a bunch of retweets. Okay, good. And I just retweeted it as well. Perfect. Let's see if they respond. I think they will.

I think they will. I think the way the president works, sometimes he gets ahead of it. Sometimes he has his team. He can't be everywhere at the same time.

But I have a feeling. He's been dealing with Ukraine this week. Say that again?

He's been dealing a lot with Ukraine. He's been dealing with Ukraine. Um, on Christmas day, he did what? On Christmas day, he went after Nigeria, right? And everyone's like, wait a minute, Christmas day, Nigeria? I think this is something where everybody, I mean, how many, how many tweets has Elon, can you go on Elon Musk's tweet? How many of Musk's tweets are just about this topic?

How many of Musk's tweets in the last, since December 26th that you posted this, how many times has he retweeted a video of somebody that retweeted about you or this topic? A lot. Okay, so let's just count this. Let's just count this, okay? Number one, that's about you.

Keep going. Okay, number two is in an election last year, how's my, okay, keep going. Keep going. Keep going. keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. What is this one here? Tesla.

Tesla, okay, keep going, keep going. I've probably seen 40 tweets. What is that about? What is that one about? Illegal immigrants? Virginia?

Virginia. This next one is about me.

Okay, this is you? About being called a racist, about fraud. Okay, so that's two. Keep going. So this is 22 hours. Keep going.

Scott Jennings about you. Okay, because that's the investigation. Keep going. And this is Elon Musk.

Okay, that's you.

That's you. So keep going. So that's JD Vance and Elon. That's also you. Keep going. That's five tweets already. Keep going. What is that? Illegal aliens? Fraud. Fraud. So that's six. Keep going. No, that's not. That's Tesla. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. That's you. That's you. Okay. Keep

going. Seven. Seven right there. Eight. Eight. that's about fraud. That's right, keep going. And that's 13 hours. That's in the last 13 hours. Keep going. Seven in 13 hours, the guy that's got 230 million followers has tweeted seven things about things that you influence.

That's it as well, right? Right there. Eight.

Keep going.

Nine. That's nine. Bill Ackman? Fraud. Ten. Eleven.

Eleven.

That's eleven. We got...

That's it. That's... Which one?

Bill Ackman. Bill Ackman. Twelve. Keep going. So think about that. Twelve.

Thirteen.

Thirteen.

We're not... We got to get past 24 hours. Thirteen. Keep going. And this is Elon. This is not just anybody. hours. 13. Keep going. And this is Elon. This is not just anybody. That's 13. Keep going. That's fraud.

That's fraud.

14. 15. Somalia.

SpaceX.

SpaceX.

We're at 19 hours. Keep going. 16. There goes. 17. That's Somalia.

Fraud. Tim Walz. Ilhan Omar, keep going. 18. That's about me. That's 18, 19 Somalia fraudsters. 20. 20. We're at 16 hours folks. Okay, 20. 20. Keep going. White hatred. That's white hatred up top, 21. This. Frost. 22.

There I am. 23.

He's literally saying because Frost just want to kill me.

24. 24. That's David. Legendary David. 25. 25.

We're at 20 hours, by the way.

26.

Okay. Keep going.

27. 27. 28. 28. 27.

28.

28.

We're at 19 hours.

29. 29. Oh my God, 29. That's also about you. 30. 31.

Okay, we're at 20 hours 31. That's 22. 32.

Keep going.

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35. That's 35. That's 35.

36.

37.

37. That's in 21 hours 38. 38.

38.

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38. 38. 38. 36. 37. 37.

That's in 21 hours.

38. 39.

39.

Oh my goodness, are you kidding me? I didn't think it was this many in the last 24 hours. That's 40 in 24 hours. That's 41. The next one. 42.

43.

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44. 44. 45, guys this is 40, that's for sure 46. 47, 23 hours. That's Minnesota 48 That's 49 49 24 hours 49 so you got 48 or 49 tweets Love can you go all the way to the top how many followers it almost guys just go to his account the man who bought Twitter October of 2022 with 231 million followers as Busy as he is running all these multi-billion dollar companies who is officially networked

as around 750 billion, decided to tweet 48 times on the topic of fraud in Minnesota and Somalians. Something you started heavily that went viral on December 26th. Meaning if a guy with his calibers that interested, I have a feeling you ought to get a call from some folks at the White House saying, hey, how can you help? And a bunch of people are commenting below it.

I think there needs to be more attention to this. I think people need to, people want to know what's going on. I think people want to know will there be accountability. I think people want to know, you know, what are the ways. Now what if, what if for you now as an audience, the benefit that you have as an independent journalist, and by the way, if you guys are watching this, again, if you know anybody or any questions or anything and you want

to support them, Manect them. Send them a Manect right now at any context information, You can Manek will put his handle below as well the QR code, but the question is gonna be What what are the places so one is you what you're gonna be doing next? Okay. So whether you go to, California What do you go to Ohio? What do you go to Pennsylvania? Whether you go to New York, New York would be a very interesting one If you go there and I know it's probably not the safest place for you And Dom you also ran on opening up more childcare. He did that's that's that's why I'm saying New York would be an interesting one. If you went over there under Mamdani and you did that, I'm sure that would be a lot of noise for him that he doesn't want to deal with.

But California probably would love for you to go there. We obviously know the lady in Ohio. But this could be a very important role in a bigger picture for me is how many other thousands of people that of course are maybe not going to do it at the levels you're doing it but they're going to be going knocking on doors right now and they're going to be saying you got to be kidding me another person coming and asking these annoying questions.

Well people are learning in locations like Washington State homes inside neighborhoods are adult daycares.

Oh do you have that clip that's the Kent Washington right? Watch this.

Shout out, Cam.

Hlalwyli Safiya Child Care Center in Kent, Washington.

It's a child care center.

They've received $863,000 since 2023. I don't see any signs right off the bat that it's a nothing like that. So we're gonna go in and we're gonna check it out Hi, is this is this whole Olli childcare? No, there's no child care here

God, thank you so much. Always the woman there's no child to the door

All right, guys, we were just at Halauli what's allegedly Hlouli Child Care Center in Kent Washington which is right behind me right here. I went up to the door the exact address listed on the state website receiving over $800,000 since 2023. They claim there's no child care here. A couple hundred thousand dollars for the cars. I went and tried to ask the neighbors if there was daycarecare there and nobody answered, but I could see The people who lived in that house Peeling the curtains back because just like all the other places all the curtains were drawn. You couldn't see in or anything They're peeling the curtains back and watching me as I walk around to the neighbors houses and they're scrambling and yelling and I can hear them

What's up with that pretty weird? So I'm out of the field now, I'm back at the house,

and I'm looking at this Halauli Safia children's daycare

on their government webpage.

$800,000.

And their licensed capacity is nine, just like the other place, and their total available slots, meaning the total amount of children they can take on is six. Meaning this daycare is only serving three

children. I mean, I think it's likely they're not serving any children considering they told me they're not a daycare. But at most there could be three children being served by this place and they're raking in $800,000.

That's unbelievable.

Since 2023.

Can you imagine being in-

I've now pulled up one of their inspection reports. Who wouldn't go into this business? One of their inspection reports in Halali. And what you see is again, short term, long term, serious and immediate risks. The government defines serious and immediate risks as risks that pose serious risk of injury, illness, or even death for children that attend these daycares. And this is the most recent inspection report with no indication that it's been corrected or fixed and they're still raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't even understand how this is possible.

A normal inspection report for one of these daycares is like two pages long.

You can stop looking at it. So this is this is now going to be a new business model of people going. So which means imagine how many people that are not in Minnesota who are conducting the same exact scam in different markets have seen this and are now saying, hey man, we better get legit quick because someone's going to come and knock on our doors.

Exactly. Exactly. Like people, they should be worried because there are so many of these all across the country, from Maine to Washington State, all the way across the country. There are thousands of these daycare centers. Me and you, we operate a business. Mine's my YouTube channel, yours is this podcast and everything else you create. Who opens up a business thinking that we're gonna,

we have to provide some sort of value to make a profit. These people are not providing any value. They're just receiving money, right? It makes absolutely no sense.

Yeah, I mean, listen, it really does make no sense, but.

Why are we giving money to these people? Like, it's so funny, I saw this on X yesterday. Someone said, okay, so say these daycares are still operating, does anybody else have a problem that daycares are receiving $1.8 million while middle income families are paying thousands of dollars

for childcare for their children, for daycare? Like, they need to stop all this daycare stuff. It's just millions of dollars.

Oh, the rage.

I know people in Washington State Yeah, who pays $70,000 a year for their child to go to the daycare for daycare for daycare

Yeah, I mean look at the end of the day I believe one of the reasons why this went as viral as it did this because the average family is sitting there saying what are You talking about? What are you talking about? You know, I'm busting my tail, I'm following the law, I'm doing everything I can, and another country is gonna come here,

take advantage of our system, steal from us, and they get away with it? And a governor from Minnesota protects these people? How's that even possible?

And then calls racists for calling it out?

Yeah, and then calls racists for calling it out. Yeah and then calls racist for calling it out. Well look what when is your next clip coming up they're gonna come out. Yes I gotta

get home to be able to make it. Okay you got to go home and edit. Yeah but it will be so people will be so shocked by what we discovered because it's not because with all these with all these daycares, health care, and child care there's a whole aspect that keeps the whole entire thing running. And that's what we're going to be exposing in this next one.

I love it.

I love it.

Because they've taken, they know where they can get the money from because they're using welfare money. So they have all these systems, but they need something specifically to be able to keep the spin rolling. And so that's what we'll be talking about.

So how can people help? If people are watching right now, they're like, Nick, we love your work, how can we help? How can they help?

Yeah, so I think the most important thing, obviously, is to watch, subscribe, and share, follow wherever you see it. If you would like to support monetarily or financially, you can donate. I have tips on my ex. Or you could just go and cop and get yourself a quality leering hoodie. But yeah, for me, the most important thing is for people to be watching and sharing. And like I said, at the beginning of this podcast, this video that I created is the

most viewed video by anybody by the name who's not Mr. Beast that's ever been on the internet in a long form content. There's been clips that have gone 100 million views here and there. There's never been a 42 minute expose of widespread fraud here in the United States that's received over 100 million views.

And I hope you continue at the highest level. I applaud your courage. You came here with your brother. It's good to have him here as well. It shows how you were raised with family, with the values, how it's important to you. And I said earlier, you can't teach courage. You got a lot of courage. We support you, we're excited for you.

And I know for a fact, whether you hear from the White House or Cash or anybody or not, I highly doubt you're gonna stop. I think you're gonna continue doing this. Eventually, you're gonna have to force people to come out and say, we have to do something about this. And I think justice is around the corner because of the work that you're doing.

Yeah, I think so too. I think we're actually seeing journalism create change. We haven't seen journalism create change in, who knows how long, when has CNN or CBS actually done something that's actually created change.

They play safe.

And then when somebody does, you're seeing all these attacks come against me These people are like I saw something Someone's calling me like a PDF. They're seeing all these crazy allegations. I'm like hey What sucks for them is they're never gonna be able to get me. I don't drink alcohol. I don't do drugs. I'm a virgin I don't have sex with random girls. You're not gonna catch me on no sexual allegation charges. I don't have any addictions. I don't have any vices.

So what are these people going to get me for? They're done. I'm a religious. I believe in God. I'm everything they hate.

I love that.

So what are they going to get me for? They can't get me for anything. Like they're going to could get me for is for Nick Shirley being a young reckless Teenager just like any other YouTube prankster go ahead. I don't care like I have nothing to hide Like I literally have nothing to hide So like I am going to become their worst enemy You're gonna start seeing them using the slandering tactics

And it's just gonna be comical for me because they have they can't get anything on me But and by the way the way I've lived my life

The way I've lived my life, and the way I do live my life is A matter of fact way I have my morals. I have my principles. I surround myself with primarily just my family I was sure I got

Everyone turned their back on me in high school for doing YouTube. I got kicked out of my friend groups because of why what did they say the parents thought I was like a liability For doing you to for doing YouTube is because I would show I was just showing stuff that me my friends would do like whether it was like with fireworks or Throwing water balloons at cars like we were funny in high school like I was just a high school you person I was just like a high school jock. I was the star athlete of the team's stage State and track everything like that,

football team, best player on the football team, all that. But then I also had this YouTube. And I got kicked out of all my friend groups in high school. I got blacklisted from my friends, friend groups. I didn't get invited on a single senior trip. I didn't get invited on any spring breaks

because I couldn't go because their parents wouldn't let me, so I got blacklisted. Like I got blacklisted for doing what I'm doing today.

How many of those guys have reached out to you?

Oh, they reach all the time. And I'm like, our relationships will never ever be the same because how bad they treated me, they never stood up for me or anything. And so that's why it's always me, and I choose to go with my family usually. That's why my brother's my best friend. Because of what they've done,

and how they've never turned their back on me.

Wow. Yeah.

What a story, bro. So.

Good for you. Like YouTube has been like everything I've had, because I've had people turn their back on me, I've had friends literally walk outside to go to lunch in high school, and the friend group that you were in yesterday drives away. Like crazy, just for pursuing YouTube.

When's your birthday?

For what I'm doing, April 4th.

April 4th, yeah, good for you.

So it's crazy and so I'm super happy, and it's been amazing to see how God's been able to use me from what I was able to learn from high school from doing YouTube, from just doing my mission as well, just learning about humankind in a different place, learning different languages, and to have that backing of years and years

of trying to do YouTube and having little success, but still having success, but using those five years of learning to propel me to where I'm at in these two years. So anybody watching, the most important thing is to start. Start young too if you're in high school.

And use your tactics. If you believe in your instincts, go for it. Because I remember listening to a quote from Kanye West. But pretty much it's said, listen to your instincts because that's what God's telling you to do. So like me, it was never an option not to do YouTube

and to create videos. Had no idea I was going to create this big of an effect, but God did. So follow your instincts, follow your gut, because your instinct and your gut is God telling you what to do, especially if it's good.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, again, that story of your background, the values, the principles, the alcohol, the drugs, all that stuff you were talking about, man, that is, they're going to come after you even more because of that. They're going to try to dig to find stuff and you know, you're going to be fine. You're going to be fine and you keep doing what you're doing. That that that courage is what inspires others to say, I can as well. There are millions of boys around the country that in this era, they're kind of like, well, he's

kind of weird. He's a little bit different. Be careful with him. I was a kid growing up and a lot of the parents are like, well, be careful with him. His parents got a divorce. He's this, he's that, you know, we don't know what he's going to end up in.

Why is he doing this? Why is he doing that? the experiences but my gosh at 23 years old I wasn't doing what you're doing at 23 you're just getting warmed up so folks if you're watching this if you want him to do more stuff like this we have to support him and that support comes in different ways like he said earlier subscribe retweet like follow by the merch you know give to the account that he has where you can go give to him or if you have anything else that you're messaging him on, send him a message

also on Maniac Weathers to thank him or anything else that you know that you want to share with him. Having said that, Nick, your class act. Thank you. Appreciate you for coming down.

Got a lot of respect for you.

Thank you everybody watching as well. Work ethic and your courage. Yes. God bless everybody. Happy New Year. Be safe tonight. Happy New Year. And don't run an illegal fraud daycare because he may come knocking on the door tonight. Just don't do it folks. He will be coming. God bless everybody. Happy New Year. Take care. Bye bye. .

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