Why USA-Israel Is Attacking Iran: War Breakdown, Dubai & Trump | Major Sudeep | FO482 | Raj Shamani

Why is Israel right now attacking Iran?

The US and Israel hit sites across Iran and killed the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. will also bomb the US, calling them legitimate targets.

Today our guest is UN peacekeeper and geopolitics commentator Major Sudip Singh. We have talked about Israel's secret operations and the state of Hormuz. How dangerous all this is for global economy.

With so much military power and America is the world's highest defense, why isn't it able to stop Iran yet?

If your goal is actually to change the regime, it won't happen until your army doesn't come down here. They aren't ready to take down America. Why? America says, kill them all at once, and then run back.

Because it's difficult for their body bags to go back. And secondly, if they do go, the terrain there, the mountains, it's a difficult, difficult country to fight.

Iran's maximum export of oil goes to China. But China is quiet in the midst of all this, not doing anything.

China has established that China will not come directly into anything. Because they want to keep a very neutral stance. And if they give technology with their crooked eyes and reposition their satellites like they did for Pakistan they are doing all this secretly. They have given technology to Iran

and weapons to Iran.

I don't know what price, but internationally oil is expensive.

This is an ongoing situation.

Oil and natural gas prices are going to go up.

Gas prices could increase.

They are saying that if you say 100, they can go up to 200. That pressure is on everyone. It's not like Donald Trump can escape it.

Where do you think India is right now?

I love by the way where the way PM Modi and this government has actually managed geopolitics in the world. It's a one of a kind kind of diplomacy in the world. that path is not shown. Iran can still want to engage us today because if not India, then who? Who can talk to convince Israel or America?

When do you think this war will stop?

If we believe Trump, it will happen within this week. It can happen. It's happening. The hearts of all three are beating. Who will blink first? The whole story.

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We are in 2026, right? And here, a world power attacks a small country

and that small country also attacks back.

And the whole world is shocked to see what is happening because there are more attacks happening in 5-6 countries around. So it's going wild right now. When do you think this war will stop? When will it end?

If we believe Trump, it will happen within this week. It can happen. See, the question Trump, it will happen within this week. It can happen. See, the question is, it is not the first time that a superpower has attacked a small country. The second superpower has also attacked a small country. It has been fighting for 5 years.

And this superpower has not attacked anyone for the first time. It has attacked many times before and has come out many times being humiliated. America? America. Okay, when, where, how? See, the expectation was that there would be no war. Because the day it happened, that night,

there was a mediation with Oman. And the foreign minister of Oman, he had said on the record, in the press conference, that we are very close to a solution. But overnight, there to a solution. But the war happened overnight. Possibility is that they got a firm intelligence that where is Khomeini. And with Khomeini,

because obviously if there was something on the table, then the discussion of that table, top brass has to do. If you get an offer, the supreme leader, in Iran's case, is Khomeini. So, if Khomeini is the one who is going to be discussed, and he gets the idea that he is here. So, an enemy who has been your enemy for the last 40 years, from the perspective of Israel, is here. And I have personally experienced that. Because as a UN peacekeeper, as I told you, I have lived in Lebanon, in South Lebanon. And I have seen Israel very closely. In front of my post, Hezbollah, which is a proxy of Iran, they broke the gate of four Israeli soldiers, IDF soldiers, by throwing a rocket launcher.

They took them away. I am talking about 2000. For how many years you fought with them behind that? Before that, there was an air force pilot of Israel. The plane crashed. He was captured. To take that one person, your diplomacy went on for years.

So, his 36th number is not new with Iran, and his Khundis with Khomeini is very old.

Israel and Iran.

Israel and Iran.

What is the fight between America and Iran?

The old fight in this is that in 1979, when Shah was dethroned and Khameini had come there, along with that, another thing happened, the US embassy was captured.

US embassy was captured.

US embassy was captured by Iran and all the people in it, I think around 70 people died and the rest were kept captive for a very long time.

To the Americans?

To the Americans. They attacked the US embassy. Like you just saw when they killed Khemini, the US consulate was attacked in Karachi. You would have seen those pictures.

No, I don't know. You will explain me all of this now.

So, the Pakistanis also did this. They attacked the consulate in Karachi. Pakistanis attacked the US embassy? They attacked the US consulate in Karachi.

Decently?

Now, when Khomeini died, within a day or two. Why? Recently. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It should not have happened. I will tell you later. But to retaliate against it, to protest against it, it was there in the news also. They attacked. Then there was a retaliation from inside. And in that retaliation, people died. After the Iran incident, the US embassies, and not just US embassies, embassies all over the world, they keep not just a security circle outside, but inside also they keep a very strong security circle.

Because you don't know when an untoward incident will happen. So, they have started to keep security in every country.

Yes, absolutely.

If you see the US embassy, UK embassy, Australian embassy in Delhi, especially US embassy, your barricading starts 500 meters ahead. There are private contractors who look after security. All these things are there.

Heavy security.

Very heavy security. When I used to drop my kids off at school, I used to see the Israeli ambassador at the corner of the street, with a strange white face, wearing his Ray-Bans and Oakley's. Who is he? And then I figured that they were Israeli people.

They were standing on the roads because they don't know. Especially because there was an incident where an Israeli ambassador was behind a car. There was a bomb in New Delhi. So they tried to bomb the car of the ambassador there. So these things happen. In the whole world of Israel. This happened in Delhi as well?

This happened in Delhi. This happened in Delhi where the embassy of Israel, the official, fought on a motorcycle from behind and he failed. But thankfully he failed. But these attempts continue. If you look at the US embassy in Delhi, it has 16-foot walls and multi-layered security.

Fair. So all this happened after that because...

So this is the old enmity of the US with them.

Since then till now.

Not only that Just like Lebanon, they had a destroyer, I'm forgetting the name of the boat, that was attacked. So, the US has been attacked by Iran and its proxies multiple times. But it's not the enemy. If 4-5 people are killed, the fight will not be as big. When the Shah was going back from the US, not only the Shah was going back, but your petroleum companies were also going back.

British Petroleum, Shell, all of them had a the revolution in Iran in 1979 was that you are taking our oil at a cheap price. We are not getting anything. In fact, the same is happening in all Arab countries and now in Africa as well. That we have our resources, we are not getting anything. Your companies are sitting there, your companies are mining, your companies are taking out the petrol, your companies are taking it to the refinery, your companies are making profit.

So, the entire control of the oil and petrol of Iran was taken over by the US and Britain. Not US alone, but England. British Petroleum was there in a big way. So, all that went for a toss the moment Khameini came in.

He nationalized everything as soon as he came in. All these companies So all that went for a toss the moment Khameini came in. He nationalized everything as soon as he came in. All these companies closed. Outside.

Okay.

After that, the US has been in Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc. There were oils in all these places. Now you will see that the US is present in all these places.

Everywhere.

Not only their companies, but their security.

Military bases.

You are saying that Iran is attacking military bases. Why are those military bases there? They are there to protect those bases. If there is another Iran type incident, our military is sitting here. This time, if you or your population also becomes crazy, then also you will not be able to harm us because I'm sitting here.

And I'm sitting tight. You removed Saddam Hussein. After Saddam Hussein, you don't hear anything from Iraq. But now when bombs are falling in Iraq, then you know that there is a US base which is sitting inside Iraq. So, Bahrain, you have a US base. Kuwait, another oil producing country which Saddam Hussein wanted to capture,

there are US bases there. US bases are everywhere.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE.

So, all these places have got a US base. Israel may just be the starter of the war.

Because Israel has suffered a lot from Iran. So you're saying that the other countries in the surrounding region don't consider Israel a country. They say that you have occupied it, so we will remove you. That's the conversation. So that's why Iran keeps troubling them.

No.

Iran has troubled them.

What's the difference between Iran and Israel? Like I don't understand that.

I'll come to that. See, I was in Lebanon. I interacted a lot with the Arab world. The Arab world calls the Palestinians, the closest word to Hindi is Panoti.

Seriously.

Who calls whom Panoti?

Panoti means wherever they go, there is a gather.

Who?

Palestinians.

Yes.

Okay.

I will give you an example. When the Palestinians were displaced from Israel, when they started their insurgency, Israel got after them. So, they ran away. I am talking about the time of PLO.

When Yasser Arafat, you must have heard about PLO, Yasir Arafat was a leader, he used to wear a kafaya and roam around, after which the whole world is now taking him around. So he ran away from there, he went to Jordan. Now, he said that we have to fight Israel.

If we have to fight Israel, we can't fight like this. We need weapons. So the whole Muslim world said, give them weapons. They came with weapons and sat with the Palestinians. The Palestinians built a refugee camp. The Jordanian population was living in the same place where they built the refugee camp. The Jordanian population did not have weapons, they had weapons. Within no time, they changed the situation. the to to

him. But nothing. Even King Abdullah's wife, she is a Palestinian woman. But still, and he is also, mind you, he is also the descendant of Muhammad himself. He is the 41st descendant, direct lineage of Muhammad. He was attacked. His ministers were killed. Now I will tell you another interesting thing. To quell them, the king of Jordan started shouting,

I can't do it. My army will either fight them or they will kill me. What should I do now? So he got advice from somewhere. Where did he get the advice from? Can you make a guess?

Pakistan. So, the country that is trying to tell you that we are standing with all the Muslims of the world, we are with Asim Munir, our Muslim Ummah, Islamic Ummah, we are with everyone, we are with them. They were the first people who butchered. Inhone butcher kiya hai Palestinians ko. They were invited by the King of Jordan. Salah bhi inhi ki thi. Interestingly, the brigadier who took that brigade of Pakistan to Jordan to massacre

these Palestinians was Brigadier Zia-ul-Haq, who later became President Zia-ul-Haq. He was the Army Chief, who later became President. He was that time a Brigadier, who took a brigade. That operation was called Black September. The Palestinians still say that Black September was the blackest day for the Palestinians.

Because they went there and created a mess. And they were thrown out.

Out of Jordan.

And they were thrown out.

So, Israel has been choosing between Iran and Israel since then. Because the proxy of Iran, Lebanon, I, Hezbollah, has been troubling Israel since then. So, Israel is now like, Iran, I will remove you from the roots because you keep troubling me. Is that it?

Yes.

Is that it? Like what is the conflict?

The conflict is exactly this. From the perspective of Iran, look, Hamas, the people who attacked, and the entire population of Gaza and West Bank, the population of Palestine, population is Sunni Muslim. Okay, they are Sunnis.

But is it like then, but Israel is not a religious war or is it a religious war?

It is a religious war for them. It is a war of survival for them. One is for a Jewish...

Someone is trying to destroy my country. I want to be against that. Is that their war? Or is it that they are presuming that you have done everything so far, so now we will kill you.

No, no.

Like why is Israel? My question is, why is Israel right now attacking Iran out of all this year? Like all of a sudden, why is it attacking suddenly? That is because...

He could have done it any time. No, you got a chance now. Now, you... Look... To attack the top leadership. The principle of the battlefield is, if your hand is up and you are getting a chance and you can finish it off with a root, then do it.

And especially this thorn in their foot, this thorn has been around for a long time. It's not new, it's very old.

So Iran wants Israel?

Iran? Wants Israel? Iran says Israel shouldn't exist. See, Israel, Iran is playing a card. Like I said, Palestinians are Sunnis. But in the whole Sunni world,

no one is supporting the Palestinians. Saudi Arabia is a Sunni country, they are not supporting them. Jordan is a Sunni country, they have thrown it out. Egypt is a Sunni country, they are not supporting them. Which Sunni country is supporting them?

No one is doing it. Only Israel and a little bit from the side, if we talk about Al Jazeera and Qatar, then maybe they support them from that side.

Israel or Iran?

Sorry, Iran. Iran is supporting them. Apart from Iran, no one else is supporting them. And apart from that, the ones who were supporting them were the Hezbollah proxies who were taking out their enemies from Iran. They had Qatoush rockets and all. So, continuously they were troubling them. So, Syria again was through Israel. And it was guided by Iran. So, imagine the advantage Iran is getting. If Sunni is dying, it doesn't make any difference to him. He is saying, it is

fine for me if Sunni is dying because he is not taking responsibility of the Sunni world at all. He is supporting. But by supporting a Sunni organization, he's creating tremendous pressure on countries like Saudi, Turkey, Jordan, everybody. That I'm supporting Sunnis as Shias, but you're not supporting Sunnis as Sunnis. So imagine the web he created for these people and all these people, even till the Abraham Accords, when Hamas attacked, Abraham Accords were completed a little earlier. After a long, long time, Israel was able to get UAE, Saudi, Bahrain, everybody together.

Everything was expected to have been sorted out. And then Hamas attacks them. They killed 1,100 people, everything was them. All your planning was over. If you remember, a trade route. So what was the solution that all these countries, all these forward thinking countries were ready to accept Israel? That was what they were moving towards?

I won't really call them forward thinking countries.

Comparatively to others?

No.

Okay.

Saudi especially is a very conservative country. Others are fairly liberal. They are progressive. But Saudi follows Wahhabism. So that is a very... But other Arab countries were ready to accept them?

Sunni Arab countries had accepted. They had accepted. But then what happened in Palestine, it happened again. After that, the whole story got ruined again. Now, go back a little. The day the attack happened, the attacks happened in October.

In September or August, Narendra Modi and Netanyahu, they had made clear a trade route, a new trade route, which was India to UAE. UAE said transit through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel and from the port of Haifa going to Europe. So, the Suez Canal route, the Red Sea route, was planned to be bypassed and a new trade route was planned. And within one or two months, this thing comes up. So there are a lot of things.

So in geopolitics, there will be a lot of small, small, small bulbs burning here and there. You will have to catch which dots are connecting and which is getting. US, UK wanted to play because they want to catch gas. From 20% gas exports into Europe, now today they are at 60 to 65%.

Where did it reach?

So, their gas... US is playing an energy game, there is no doubt about that.

US doesn't care. It should have its own business. That's it.

Not only business. Now everybody is talking about petrodollars.

Petrodollar, weapon industry.

It has become a weapon industry.

Defense and weapons are theirs.

Your weapon industry is set. And wartime economies grow very fast. They trouble later. But wartime economies are growing fast.

And plus, all the countries that have been attacked, they will buy extra.

Who else will sell from the US? You have shown all your arms and ammunition there. What was happening during the Op Sindoor? We were showing off our weapons. Pakistan and China, not Pakistan, China by proxy, was trying to show off that our weapons are so superior.

Now US is showing off. If there is no iron dome, you don't have an iron dome, you have nothing in life. You will be finished. You will be killed. Countries like Iran will get sick and kill you. So make all of you. And you know about the costs of these weapons and everything.

They are emptying Europe. They are saying, take out the money.

So coming back to, so Iran and Israel, we have understood, they are enemies since so many years. Why are US and Iran? They burnt their embassy once, captured the embassy after that.

US had an interest in oil and gas, which they have destroyed. Now they want to come back. So, that is one. Second, geography. Geography is equal to map. The state of Hormuz.

Do you have a map?

Yes, I have. So, let's go.

First, let's see this. This is world.

This is world. Now, we come here. 22 kilometers.

What is 22 kilometers?

This is the state of Hormuz. This is the Strait of Hormuz.

This is the Strait of Hormuz.

This is the Strait of Hormuz. This is the Strait of Hormuz. At the widest it is 22 to 30 kilometers. Iran is sitting here. Okay? This is your UAE.

This is your Saudi Arabia.

Okay?

Bahrain. Iran is here.

Iran is here. This is the whole of Iran.

Okay?

This is Iraq. This is Iraq. Kuwait. Bahrain. Qatar for gas. Bahrain for gas. Saudi Arabia., all these are your oil fields.

In the United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi creates oil. Oman, again, is a port. When all these oil fields are produced, whether it is Kuwait or Iran, Iran can also extract oil from here. But for Kuwait, for Iraq, there are huge oil fields in Iraq. Saudi Arabia has oil fields here. Bahrain has gas, Qatar has gas. When they extract all this from their sea routes, they have to extract it from here.

From Dubai?

No, from Dubai. This is straight up a form of a joke. The importance of Dubai is that it has a port. Through this port, the whole world... Now, if you take a flight somewhere today, even if you want to go to Europe, your flight will either go to Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar,

it will stop somewhere, and then go. The same advantage is there for their ports as well. If this oil is going anywhere in the world, everyone's effort is to go from the Dubai port. Now, not only Dubai, UAE is creating logistics for ports all over the world. Iran has a nuisance value.

Nuisance?

Nuisance value. We'll call it nuisance value. Nuisance value is that I can disturb you whenever I want. Okay. Because the distance between us is almost 22 kilometers. Now, three things have become clear. One is the Petrodollar. Petrodollar has its own strength. A little bit ahead of the Petrodollar, the US said, leave the Petrodollar, I'll take

the whole world's oil. You took Venezuela, the world's largest oil reserves. Venezuela. You take that. You have Kuwait, you have Bahrain, you have Saudi Arabia, you have Iraq, you have the United Arab Emirates. You have all these countries which are oil producing, all these are in

your pocket. Along with Russia, you can assume that they have made some arrangement. The way Trump is going soft on Russia, they have made some arrangement with Russia. That's why they are sitting quietly. So, the person who was saying that I am controlling the world's oil through petrodollars, now he is actually physically controlling it.

So, it doesn't matter if you trade in anyone.

If tomorrow, everyone is saying that the UAE is saying that the bomb fell on me because there was the US base there. Bahrain is saying the same, Saudi is saying the same, Iraq is saying the same. And along with that, they are also saying that sooner or later we will have to ask US to vacate.

Will they?

I don't think so, US will vacate.

They will never do it. Neither will they ask them to vacate, nor will they do it. The third thing that was important was that even if you are producing oil, until you are not able to send that oil forward, that oil is of no use. Iran is proving this today.

So, this oil that is produced,

comes out from here to the world.

This is 26% of the world's oil being transported just from this.

And then it will come out from here. oil being transported just from this.

And then it will come out from here.

It will come out from here.

Either that side or this side.

It will go to India. Okay. If you want to go to Europe, if you take the sea route, you will go from here. You will leave Bab-el-Mandeb. This is your second choke point. Okay.

You started walking from here. From here, let's say, a tanker was loaded from the port of Dubai. It reached here. It reached down here, at Bab-e-Mandeb. This is which countries? All these countries, if you see them, this is Jammu-Tibet. This is Somalia.

All these are those countries which, sometime which have never, do you remember in between, Indian Navy caught Somali pirates. What were those pirates doing? The ships which were trying to go inside this, they were looting them. Indian Navy is still present there. To stop piracy and also for surveillance. Then you will go from here, you will reach the Red Sea, and from here you will reach Suez Canal.

Okay? Red Sea and from here you will reach the Mediterranean. Look at the top, you will get the whole of Europe. So this is your trade route.

Okay.

So we have this Suez Canal choke point,

which is controlled by Egypt, right? This is controlled by Egypt. This has a story. By the way, Israel can also be credited for changing the world geopolitics so many times. So many times. Can you see this long tail? This black is Israel. This is black and inside the black is Israel.

What is this long tail going here? You have to always think about this. Here at the end, a city sits, Eilat.

Here it is. I saw.

Did you see? Yes, Eilat. So, this is the last point of Israel. A small Pappu is sitting here. This is, And that is why when they were creating Israel, they pulled Israel from here to here, Mediterranean connecting into the Red Sea. This is called geo-strategic advantage.

Think about it. And this happened. When Suez Canal was closed in 1967, during the Six Day War, Egypt closed the Suez Canal, this route was open. Otherwise, you would have to travel all over Africa, and then you would have to travel around the world with the Cape of Good Hope.

But if you have Israel and the Suez Canal, you can just bypass the whole thing. Or, you can send oil from here. If you want to send oil to Europe, you can send it from here. There are still routes. For example, Saudi Arabia has put an east-west pipeline. This has got a capacity of around 6 million barrels per day. So, they can send it from here to here.

It is through the whole desert. Similarly, there is a also running from UAE. So, this choke point… Okay, Yemen is sitting here. Yemen again Houthis. Houthis supported by Iran. So, you stopped Hormuz here. You stopped the Red Sea through Houthis you stopped the Red Sea. So both of them were hit by a choke point.

This was giving 26% traffic, and around 8-10% of the oil traffic was from here. So if you want to feed a country like China or India, then both of them stopped. If you want to go to Europe, then fine. This pipeline came from here, and you still pulled it through Suez. But again, in the reach of Houthis. So, the fourth pillar that you are coming out of is that even if you have oil,

you are controlling the oil, if you are not able to send it forward, then you are doing something. Which you are not able to send today.

And that's US problem.

That's a US problem. So, that's not a US problem anymore. It is the world's problem. Because now you have trapped the whole world that the oil of the whole world was sitting here. But because Iran is dominating this whole area,

the state of almost, no matter how much pressure you are putting on them, but there is a value of nuisance. The day they blow up an oil tanker, all the oil tankers will stop. Coming back to the conversation,

America wants to control the oil. America has a problem even before Iran. So America thought, good point, we have got intel, let's meet Israel and do this work. That's what. Now Iran is retaliating that how you killed our leader overnight. Now he has retaliated. So, it was not expected that he will retaliate. It was not expected. It was expected that many times, when such things happen, people capitulate.

Immediately, you get some kind of surrender. It happened in Afghanistan. It didn't happen in Ukraine. It was expected in Ukraine. Within three days of the war, Europe offered Zelensky to come. He refused.

He stood up.

He had been fighting for five years. He said, come and meet me in Europe.

Europe said, no, don't meet me. Surrender.

Leave and come back.

Because just before that, Afghanistan was in trouble. The loan in Afghanistan ran away. The Taliban started moving from here and from there, the loan from Afghanistan took a helicopter overnight. So, this is the story. Afghanistan. The Taliban started moving from here and from there the helicopter left for Afghanistan overnight.

So, this was the hope Russia had from Ukraine that as soon as I put pressure, it will run away. And Europe also offered that you come, this is game over. It stopped. The fight lasted for five years. This was the expectation of America at that time.

One expectation that did not remain was that all these Islamic countries, the expectation that they did not have was that they will attack Bahrain, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq. So, all these countries thought that we are not legitimate military targets. However, Iran was threatening them that if their airspace is also used, then they will consider them as enemies. The most used airspace was of Jordan.

When you fire from Israel, then through Jordan, Iraq is virtually under American control. So, your missiles that fly from Israel, Iraq is virtually under American control. So, your missiles that fly from Israel cross Jordan, Iraq, and then Iran. So, Jordan has been trying to convince Iran to reform, but Jordan does not have the power to oppose. So, it will do what the US says.

What he didn't expect was that Iran will bomb all these countries, calling them legitimate targets. Now, that is a very interesting thing. You know, there was a guest on our podcast. He is a weapon expert, Colonel Indianamee Narendra Sir. He had predicted that Iran will create problem.

And this was months ago.

Months ago.

There was no tension. He was like Iran will create a lot of nuisance. And Iran will forcefully trouble the neighboring countries for show of power. So that in the world, because it cannot send anything to the US.

Correct.

So it will do it to the neighboring countries. And he said it, and at that time, a lot of people were commenting, what are you talking about? But he's a weapon expert from Indian army. He's a colonel.

And he said it, and it exactly the same thing.

Which is a nuisance value. That is, see, the thing is, when you're fighting, is this is one place where we have failed miserably many times. When you are in a weak position, you go to a strong position and suppress the enemy. That is your typical strategy. In Kargil, we were in a bad position. We were sitting in such a position that the enemy would have thrown stones at us.

And that happened to us. But, and that is why I say many times that probably the current Prime Minister, who is also from the same party as the Prime Minister was at that time, this Prime Minister is better because he is open to take those chances. That time, the Force wanted it, expected this. But we didn't open the front.

We fought from the bottom to the top. We took the time of the casualties surfer. It took a lot of effort. China was also pestering us from the other side. Casualty surfer ki time lagaya, bahut effort laga. Doosri side se China humare ko pester kar raha tha. Lekin humne apna front expand nahi kiya. Yahaan pe Iran ne suddenly poora front expand kar diya.

So, they took all that could help them to create a counter to them.

To front, matlab woh yaha pe hi nahi lad rahe hain.

Expectation kya tha? Expectation jo... So, front, they are not fighting here. What was the expectation? Expectation, what you are saying about Colonel Narendra, what he told you, that is one part of it. But the same Iran, what did they do two months ago? They didn't bomb. They just bombed, when they said that we are taking out the nuclear bomb. At that time, when the bombing happened, what was their response?

They only bombed Israel back. In one day, they bombed only Israel. Jordan intercepted, all that happened. But they didn't bomb any other country. Their war front was open, this versus this. Basically, they were saying.

But they opened this complete range. Now they have said that for them, they are all legitimate targets.

Because they have US base.

If they have US base, then I will attack it. If they have US consulate, then I will attack it. If they have a hotel, where I have a doubt that there is an Israeli or American, then I will kill them too. That's why they are attacking hotels. That's why they are attacking hotels.

Because they are saying that I am considering every place where there are people of these nationalities as a legitimate target. There is a lot of propaganda war too. But if there is a genuine bombing on a school and 160 girls have died, then you can also say that a white man was sitting there, if you can kill my civilians, then I also by mistake killed them in a hotel, I was killing somewhere else. Secondly, their weapons accuracy is not that good.

We have seen that with our own eyes. When I was in Lebanon for the first time, I was eating ice with my own eyes. When I was in Lebanon, when I went there for the first time, I was eating ice cream in a cafe. It was an ice cream shake.

Slush.

Fruit slush.

I was eating it in a slush. Suddenly, there was a bombing. We were on the ground, tired. The girls were eating there. They laughed at us. We didn you don't have to worry. They know exactly where their bombs are falling. And not only they know,

the rest of the world also knows that

it's with precision.

But when Hezbollah was firing, everyone got inside. When their gun was firing, then everybody was inside. Where will it fall?

No one knows.

They don't have that much precision. And they don't have the capabilities.

But tell me one thing now. Okay. But tell me one thing now. Coming back to this. This is Iran. This is your Israel, which is attacking it from here. attacking. It has troubled Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Oman. All these countries and Israel, all of them together, a small country, which is probably not rich in front of these people,

because economically they are not doing goodcially, other countries are much more powerful. US world power support, in Kozada weapon mastery in Kipa Zada. So, financially, weapon wise, defense wise and collective power of the world supporting is also with them. So why aren't they able to do anything? They are not able to save themselves or attack. They don't want to attack because they don't need to. Frankly, in today's date, they are doing it. Some have done posturing.

The Turkish people have said that don't be a hero.

They have said it in Azerbaijan too.

Everyone has said it. Turkey has also said that don't do it after intercepting.

First of all, they don't have to do anything because US and Israel are already fighting the war for them. Secondly, as soon as they start firing, then they become even more legitimate target. that I am hitting only those targets that I think are military targets. Or the enemy that is being spied on, or I suspect that Mossad is sitting here. He is still saying this. But where your armed forces have started attacking openly, then you are a legitimate target.

Then you will respond and escalate it further.

But then can they, all of them combined, can they not show enough power to stop Iran?

They're doing that through diplomatic pressure by saying that it's a Muslim world, don't do this, don't do that.

We're all brothers.

But all of this is just a verbal statement. This is, they don't want to. They are quite happy that US is doing the job for them, Israel is doing the job for them, but they are also worried that they are also getting attacked. Trust, safety, countries whose names were being known, they are all scared. Dubai, till now, the whole world was selling property in Dubai. Suddenly, who will, because you are just opposite Iran.

And now suddenly Iran is rogue.

I don't know. Personally, I will still trust Dubai. I'll still go there.

You will.

You will see.

Like a lot of people.

I don't think this will reduce my trust on that city or country. Eventually, Iran won't be sick for a long time. Unless it gets pulled. Unless you don't have anyone left to talk to. You have some insurgent groups created. Like Houthis. Houthis are now in nobody's control.

Whenever they feel like, they will bomb and leave. He will do whatever he wants to do. He will bomb and go. You don't even know where to kill him. He is sitting at home now. He has become a soldier. Then he went back and is driving a taxi.

So you don't know anything. So if that rogue value has gone to Iran, if a similar situation has become, then it's a dangerous situation. Because you are very much in range of even the useless weapons, you can create a lot of nuisance with them.

But okay, now coming back to this. So you said that these countries don't want to

wage war, that's why they are attacking each other. They don't want to do it. Because then you become a genuine legitimate target. Fair.

Till now...

They don't want to do it for the safety of their citizens. Right? And for their own diplomacy power, for losses, whatever. X, Y, Z. But they are attacking their American bases. When there is so much military power and America is the world's highest defense, best in class, they have bombs, weapons, air, they have everything. And there is a budget, money. weapons, air, they have everything. And they have budget.

And they have probably the precision technology to just eradicate something completely. America can do this. They are capable of doing it. And they have bases. They can start a war from anywhere. Because all around the world, they have military bases. And their bases are also being attacked. Why aren't Iran able to stop it from those bases?

See, a lot of bases were removed before the war started. You were aware, the 5th fleet etc. They removed them.

Still, America can reach anywhere in a day.

And they are doing it. It's not like they are not doing it. They are doing it. See, from an Iran perspective, also understand one thing. If nothing happens, if nothing happens, until the boots on the ground are not there, you are not achieving anything in Iran.

If your goal is actually to change the regime, whether it is Pehlevi Shah coming back or democratic elections or a governor or vice president, like Venezuela, that won't happen until boots on the ground are in place. Until your army doesn't come down, they are not ready to take down America.

Why?

Russia can fight a war of attrition. They have fought the world war.

What does war of attrition mean?

You will keep fighting and weakening the enemy, no matter how many casualties you have. It doesn't matter. America says, finish them all at once and run back. Because it is difficult for their body bags to go back. Russia is fighting war of attrition. If you go by the western estimate, 2.5 lakh people have died.

The most killed people in World War II were the Russians. Maximum casualties suffered were Russians. From England, the US, France, Paris, they all went. They didn't fight. When the Nazis were coming, they just left. They said, don't burn Paris.

Armies left before the Nazis came in. So, war of attrition is not for everyone. And it's not for America either. Because they don't have permission from the Senate or Congress to fight a war. And secondly, if they go, the terrain there, the mountains, in And if there were no boots on the ground, if the 5th fleet is deployed in Diego Garcia, none of these ships could have been able to berth.

If any ship comes to fuel the ships, all of them would have been targeted. All of them would have been killed from a distance. The day they had to come here for berthing, to fuel. Logistics is also there. You can't just lie in the water. Either Diego Garcia will come, or he will come here. If he comes here, then they will be in range.

And if they go here for boots on the ground, they will die anyway. So if nothing happens and Iran just sits here, they still win. If your goal of battle is to change the regime. If it was just to kill Khomeini, then you should have been quiet and peace. Which is possible. It can happen very quickly.

Both sides will say... Look, all three sides are stuck. America's spending will be 1% of GDP. So, it doesn't make a big difference to them. No matter how much they kill with weapons, it won't make a big difference. So, the triple crisis that is going on,

a theory that is going on, that the bill is going to explode, in whose name? In the name of the public, it is going to explode in America, because the prices of petrol will go up. The prices of fuel will go up. Donald Trump came to power by saying that I will not let inflation go up,

I will reduce in trouble. Israel is in trouble because the people who are supposed to do the work are fighting in the factories. The factories are empty, all the reservists are standing outside in their uniforms. Their economy cannot sustain it because they have to have the industries working. They are going into paralysis. Their bill is being blown up there. Their bill is being blown up in the bill. Iran's. Iran's. Their survival bill.

If you say that they are making a drone of 20-30 thousand and on the other side, a missile of 1.5 million is getting destroyed or radar is getting destroyed, even then, you don't have the money for that. For that 20-30 thousand of drone, your industrial capability is being destroyed by bombs. So how will you create it? Where will that money come from?

How will you get it done? You don't have the resources. You will get steel from somewhere, you will do heating from somewhere. All those resources are depleted. So their bill is on survival. The bill of all three is being destroyed.

Who will blink first? The whole story is that. So, that is a triple crisis thing. That is where the stalemate is. So, like your first question was, when will it end? It can happen tomorrow.

It can happen today as well. Because all three sides are stuck. And no matter what Trump says, regime change etc. But I think majority of their aims have been… If they sit down to deal properly, Chahe Trump kuch bhi bole regime change waqeera, but I think majority of their aims have been agar ye theek se deal karne ke liye baith jayenge, Oman mediation kar hi rahe, back channel abhi hectic talks chal rahi hongi irrespective ki koi kya bol rahe.

So that solution can come any time and it may never come. Aur ye chalta hi rahega. And it will continue. If everything goes rogue, if you say, if Israel says that I will not move until Netanyahu's younger brother comes and sits in it, then it will go very long.

Because this is not that country and this is not that population which will move so soon.

But what's your estimate? What do you think?

Will it stop?

Or will it be like Ukraine and Russia and people will write off?

My personal feeling is, it will end very soon. And it will end very quickly. It will end very quickly.

It will end.

According to me.

It won't be like Russia-Ukraine.

No.

I was sad with Russia-Ukraine because a lot of world leaders have turned off the right. Right off means that people are like, whatever needs to be done, it's back to normal. And it's sad.

It is sad. Because the biggest loss is that the balancing power is engaged. Now, Russia is not coming in Iran's fight. This is clear to everyone. They are not coming in.

Earlier, in Bangladesh's fight, if America is saying that I am moving from 5th or 7th fleet in Bengal, Russia used to say that if you are doing it, then I am also doing it. But China is not coming and Russia cannot come. So, your world balance is slowly getting over. And it is a very dangerous. That is the tricky situation. What is the tricky situation again? Look, there are two things. First, just saying that Trump is a madman is a mistake.

Biden did exactly the same. Russia war was started by Biden and that was not the only war he started. Trump normalized one Venezuela, that you can blow heads of states. You kidnapped one and blew the other. This is not a normal thing. So that has become a level of madness. But if you see how many countries have been blown by the wickets, then Biden has got a higher number.

Look at our neighbor, Pakistan. What did Imran Khan say?

A white man,

told me to accept the conditions, give me the basis again, I have to enter Afghanistan, this is that, I refused. The wicket was blown. Bangladesh, St. Martin's Island,

the wicket was blown. The wicket of Sri Lanka was blown, the wicket in Myanmar was blown, the wicket in Nepal was blown later. But you see, all your neighbors have left. You don't have any neighbor who hasn't left Bhutan.

Bhutan doesn't matter. Syria has left. Russia is engaged. So Biden has also achieved a lot. So to say that only Trump is a madman, he's not a madman. He's just following up with what the policy is. So, the petrodollar

thing, control over energy thing, they all make plausible sense because they're feeling that pinch. That, you know, there can be a currency of bricks, there can be an alternate currency, I can get the whole energy ecosystem out of my hands. They have all those problems in their mind. Both are equally mad.

You started saying that America has been insulted in many places.

In Vietnam? Yes, you said that America has attacked in many small countries even after being a super power. And then insulted and went back. Like what? Vietnam, the biggest example. Korea, no result.

He had gone to Korea too. He had been to Korea as well. He is still sitting there as a base. He was insulted there as well. He brought body bags. In Vietnam, everyone knows how humiliated he was. He couldn't do anything to a small country.

He was humiliated in Iraq as well. He went back from Afghanistan. He was humiliated twice. So, which country? Cuba humiliated them. It is right next to them.

But now he is saying that Cuba is now...

They have pressurized Cuba. They don't have fuel. In Cuba, bullock carts will start running. But until they... Cuba is right next to US. But they couldn't do anything.

Whether it was through drug cartels or smuggling or intelligence sharing. So, America has been humiliated by many small countries. Who did they win from? They are in Iraq, but you can't really say that they are in control of the situation. Because Iraq, on their basis, is still bombing the Iraqi population. So that situation is still not settled.

So, till date, only Japan has won.

Let's not talk about World War II. World War II was really not America's war alone.

But Japan ultimately came to them in the end.

In some sense. It is still a sovereign country. But in some sense, their military, army, everything is under their control. If you look at it that way, then they won a lot of things. But eventually, see, they only did the nuclear bomb thing, the atom bomb thing. America did that.

But who was fighting with the Japanese forces in Burma? Who was fighting in Vietnam? It was the British forces which were fighting. Indians who were fighting. Burma was fought by the Indian army during World War II. So, I was about to tell you this.

Israel has changed the world order and world geopolitics many times. Now we are talking about America. Because you brought up this world war thing. We have always heard that in the British Empire, the sun never set. Whether people from here or there, the British Empire was always in force. So, in some time, Britain... World power.

That was it.

World leader. World leader was that. They ruled the whole world in some sense.

Majority of the world.

Africa was ruled by France. So, where was the US? When did the US become a superpower? World War says, if it was the British Empire fighting the Nazis and the European powers who were fighting, America joined them and much later. America joined them.

So, when did they become a superpower? The answer to that is also in the same map, in the map of Israel.

What happened?

There was a contract of Suez Canal.

In 1956, that contract was signed. Egypt had given a lease of 99 years. map. What happened? There was a contract for Suez Canal.

In 1956, the contract was signed. Egypt had given a 99-year lease to a French company to build a Suez Canal and then do business in it for 100 years and earn money. The contract was about to expire in 1956. But in the meantime, the French company said that it needed more than me. So, it was done by Britain because Britain's crown jewel was India. In the middle, the French company said that it is more important than me.

So, they sold it to Britain. Because Britain's crown jewel was India.

If India's way ends through the Suez Canal, they sold a stake to England, to Britain. And then Egypt, who was short of money, sold a stake to them.

Eventually, the control of the Suez Canal came to Britain. The contract was going to end in 1956. Nasir wanted to nationalize it and everything. So, it became clear that it was going to be out of our hands. And he never wanted the Suez Canal to be out of our hands. If the Suez Canal is out of our us, everything will be taken away from us. Britain, France and Israel, all three of them made a plan.

In this plan, they said that first Israel will go, attack the Suez Canal and try to take over the Suez Canal. Then we will go as mediators. When we go as mediators, we will say, Israel, stop, stop. We are here, you go out and everything. Israel will not agree. Then we will send our forces and we will control the Suez Canal the reverse the position. And France disappeared. Israel went back. And after some time, England agreed, Britain agreed that they will withdraw. That is the day US was told, US was assumed that now the new superpower is US USA. Because he left Britain behind. Because you told Britain that what you have done,

I don't approve of it. So, you pull back again. Otherwise, the power of World War, and we are talking about 1956. The war ended in 1945. Eight or nine years.

Even then, Britain was the power. Britain was the empire. There was no other empire. Britain had a navy. Britain ruled everywhere. It was the empire. There was no other empire. It was the British Navy. Britain ruled everywhere. It was not America.

America became a Suez Crisis. Again, Israel. Now, in all this, whether it goes like this or like that, one thing will be clear. Gulf countries, the GCC Council, which is majority Sunni, plus Israel, these will become the new regional power here. This will happen.

And if they are lucky, then maybe they will say, leave the Palestine issue. Let them live in peace. Otherwise, whatever is there, will go. Because the more fights there are, they move forward. And this happens with them every time.

So hopefully, they will back off a little.

Do you feel Israel will rule that?

Yeah, Israel has proved conclusively that they can do anything. What did they not do? They blew up the Nasrullah. That major operation. can you imagine? What a disgusting plan! Can you imagine? That you are planning so extensively and convincing Hezbollah

that if you use a normal mobile phone, you will be caught. Instead, you use a pager. First, you convince them. Then you make your own company and sell them a pager. And then after that, by looking at the opportunity, they have done it again and again. And they have done it again and again. This Olympics game happened at that time in Munich. Then they did it here.

Then they did it by putting that software. Then Abhi Khamenei's right spot, one attack and then.

So this is not a joke. This is extreme intelligence. And this is extreme will and this is extreme firepower.

So, firepower and everything and they have the will to fight. I was watching one video by a professor. And the professor was saying that if we see only theoretically, what happens in the practical world, what happens geopolitically, all factors change. But if we see only theoretically, then Israel

has ruled the world in some sort of form. And then after that, in future, Israel will rule the world in some sort of form. And then in future Israel will rule the world. And what it meant, theoretically, where women want to give birth to their children, and they do give birth, where the number of people dying

is not more than the number of children born, and women want to give birth to give birth in that developed society. Those societies progress more over the years and it increases. So if you see which are the countries where women want to give birth. So developed countries came. Which are the countries in developed countries where women are giving birth.

So he was comparing like Europe, US and then he was remembering Israel. So, he said that no one wants to do it in Europe because it is a dying economy. In US, nothing is attractive but still the world wants to go there because US attracts everyone. So, maybe the people inside the US don't give birth that much but US has power to attract from all over the world. So, as many fertile women who are capable of producing kids,

they will probably go there. But when they go there, look at the birth rate. They are not producing that much. So, the only country where women are happy, are developed, want to have children, and on an average,

they are having more children. Is Israel at this point? So Israeli women, his point of view was that Israeli women theoretically will dictate where the world will go. And to me that was just, and I just saw it so clearly, so I didn't know how true it is, how false it is. I don't know. This is very half-baked knowledge. So, I don't want to quote anyone on this. I just want to...

For a conversation, I'm asking you... From a conversation perspective...

Because... And I was listening to this about demographics,

which a person reads about demography and population. See, demography and population wise, the point made by the professor is fantastic.

It is true. And he also said it very blatantly. It is theoretically.

Theoretically.

Geopolitically, practically. Don't quote me. Theoretically, it makes sense.

And what actually happened is the opposite of this.

Okay.

Because, see, and this is a very vast topic. And I might get cancelled by saying this. Because as soon as you say anything against Jews, it goes into that anti-Semitic this thing. But the point is that if so much bloodshed, even after so much war, if you can't raise your finger, Hamas killed 1,100 people. Bad. It was really stupid and it was cruel. Agreed. For Israel to retaliate this way may

be justified but probably, it's a little harsh. Very harsh. Very harsh. But if you just say that if you raise your finger on Jews for this, you will become anti-Semitic, that's a little wrong. Because then you won't Now, Jews are not being hunted for the first time. Something is wrong somewhere. And maybe Jews will have to sit and see. Very enterprising community, very intelligent community reaches out.

Everywhere they have gone, they are making progress. Hollywood, Jews, the entire banking system, the entire Jews, every news that you can turn to, all the news, information, technology, all the news, everything is about Jews.

But, weapons, they have everything. And Nobel Prizes, Nobel laureates,

all of them, such have seen the intelligence.

Such a small population but has the world's largest majority.

All things are happening. But this is the population that has been repeatedly killed in history. So somewhere something was wrong. It started from the time of Jesus. Because at that time people said that Jesus died because of Jews. Because the Jews went to the Roman governor and complained to him.

So the anger did not come out on the Romans, but on the Jews. Romans eventually, the Roman Empire became Christian because of Constantine. All that anger came on him. Many times, the big plagues, in which at one time, one third of the population of Europe was destroyed, the plagues of the Black Death, one third of the population of the world died.

The Jews were blamed. They were killed at that time.

Hitler also killed him.

And before Hitler, Jews in Germany, France, Austria were not even allowed to buy a house. They were not permitted to buy land.

They were not allowed to buy land.

That's why they started a bank. If all these things are happening, then somewhere the Jews are wrong. If Muhammad is saying that I want to create a system in which if you give a loan, then there will be no interest on it. Then where was he pointing?

Towards Jews.

He was pointing towards Jews. Because at that time also the job of lending was done by Jews.

Interestingly, lending is Jews all around the world.

Resentment is not new, it is very old. Although 15 minutes ago I told you that Jews or Israel might be the new regional power of the Middle East. But I would also like to say that there is a very strong possibility that there will be a huge backlash against the Jews. Because what is happening...

Do you think that everyone makes fun of them because they are a minority? Because it's easier to blame minority than majority.

It's not just the minority. The reason is that within the Jew community, they are taking each other along. Everything is inner circle. Everything is concentration.

That's because there was a lot of discrimination with them in the beginning. After the Nazis.

No, all the communities, the big ones,

The community came together after Nazis.

No.

No, like much, this feeling of, that we will only support each other, and we will only support each other, and that's strong. Like, if you read, when we talk in the world, that Hollywood was made, banks were made,

all this was made because they were sanctioned. No one gave them jobs, that's why they started doing creative work. No one gave them land to buy, so they started a bank. So, no one gave them anything,

that's why they have always been the survivors. That's the real reason behind everything. And then ended up, because they are so good. And their survival, extreme focus on family, extreme focus on entire community, extreme focus on studies, writing, intelligence. Because of this, in every industry, even if they are thrown away, they go helpless, they go well, they kill, they win. The refugees are always the fastest moving community.

The Punjabi refugees who came to India after partition, they were the fastest moving. I am talking about the acceleration. I am not talking about the total wealth. Acceleration wise. Within the country, the refugees, if I say refugee, the people who are migrating from Bihar to Bengal, they are the most progressive because it's survival.

If I want to survive, I have to work hard. I have to make friends with my brothers, uncles, and grandfathers. I have to network with them. I will move forward and you will see that. The Biharis who came as labor, have now become contractors. They are going up and up. Now they are coming from West Bengal.

Yes, Gujaratis who have migrated all over the world, they are winning in every country. So, these people, maybe the Jews have always been refugees. They were not allowed to settle anywhere. They just kept running from here to there. So that acceleration will always be there in them. Because wherever they went, now Israel is also behind them. Who is letting them stay? They are not letting them stay. They are still staying. The US is probably a place where they have become a little safe. But the rest of the places are still in trouble.

Because all the banks, Hollywood, consumer goods companies, top tech companies, all of them are running. Now Zelensky is a Jew. And his conspiracy theories have also started.

Wow, I didn't know this. Oh, okay.

Zelensky, and for a good reason, Zelensky is not just a Jew. His prime minister was also a Jew by 2024. His immediate family has 30 members in the ruling class. The chief of defence staff's advisor, who informs the chief of defence staff, is a Jew. Many of his ministers are Jews. One of the advisors who was fired from behind, he was also a Jew. So his entire...

On one hand, he says that in Ukraine, we don't distinguish between Christians and Jews. But his entire inner cabinet is a Jew.

Okay?

So, you know, for this conversation, I was reading yesterday that who set this standard in the modern world in the last 5-10 years, that doing such an open war, dropping bombs on people, shedding blood in cities, properly, where... See, if you do this in the war area, it has been going on for years, it has never stopped. There is no peace time after any world war. No world was... Entire world at the same time was never at peace.

Every 2-3 years, something or the other happens. So, India is fighting its own battle, America is doing its own thing. Everyone was doing their own thing, right? But what is this standard that Russia is fighting openly? America is openly picking up the President and Prime Ministers. Israel is openly bombing.

Like who has said this? President. Who did this? And again, I went to the rabbit hole and then people were like, I was like how did America start this? So, they were like how did Israel start this? What is America doing? How did America do this?

Russia is also doing this. How is Russia doing this? That in these small countries, all the ISIS and all these people, they captured one country, then the country Afghanistan and they started the direct. It's like, there is a lot of blame in that. Like there is no conclusion.

Who has set this trend? That you can go to any country and start it. No, so that normal set, don't try to find it in the modern world. Like United Nations or League of Nations,

it has been going on for a long time. Yes, I was just saying. Then there was Genghis Khan, Ugluk Khan, whoever it was, they were the people who would put gold in the heads of kings to send messages. So, these things have been going on for a very long time.

But then after UN, after peace, after international law, after international…

Sir, this is too much…

This…

For a few years, it was not so blatantly… Like after… If… At least, this Lehman Brothers crisis happened.

After that, so blatantly blatantly invaded someone's country. See, this is absolutely insane.

Like Russia started from Ukraine again.

No, no. Russia did not go after Zelensky in Ukraine. I am saying people have started to make standards.

But to start wars between two countries and destroy the whole cities, this is very new.

No, it happened in Syria. Syria, I have seen that country. It was such a beautiful country. Now you see, Russia and US got together. If you remember, the bomb that was called the mother of all bombs, till a time, you… See, the war in Syria started because of these problems.

Shiites were ruling and the Sunnis were not. Sunni majority was there. But the rule was being done by the Alawite family of Assad for 40-45 years. You had to change the regime there. You started feeding the Muslim Brotherhood, the students. That became ISIS. From there came Jabairi and a whole Daesh and Levant, ISIS and everything, all these problems started. Then suddenly you realize that this is out of our hands too. So, those who created it, they are killing every snake.

Then they said, we can't do it. Syria is Russia's naval asset. Russia's entire Mediterranean Navy base is still there. Although the Assad regime has fallen, it is still there.

Okay.

So, they sit there. Russia was also this thing that if it spreads, then I will go. They were worried separately because the oil that was coming out of Turkey and Iraq, which used to go to the Mediterranean through this route, ISIS started selling it.

The money that used to come from there, the weapons that they bought, they started selling to the whole world. It reached Africa. In Nigeria, Boko Haram was started. So all these things spiraled so quickly.

So Russia and America bombed Syria together. If you remember, Russia came at the very end and did a massive bombing. And the whole world was saying that this was America's war. And suddenly Russia took it. But in a case where there was terrorism versus world. Yes, okay.

There was no country versus country.

Okay.

So you are saying that... I am sorry.

I am not saying...

America has done the same in Iraq. Right.

America has brought Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi, but later. I am saying terrorism versus world was a different thing. I am saying country versus country. Ukraine versus Russia. There was no terrorism. Venezuela versus America.

There was no terrorism in this.

No, so these tags have been tagged from the beginning. They have tagged Saddam Hussein as well. That weapons of mass destruction. When they entered, they said that Saddam Hussein has bio gas.

And just at the end of the day, it's an energy war. When they entered, they said that Saddam Hussein has bio gas.

At the end of the day, it's an energy war. And how did it become a new norm that you can kill anyone, do anything?

Who would you blame? If you say it openly, then it will go to America. And if you say it covertly,, Russia has also done it. Let me think of, because Russia has played this game on many world leaders by using serine gas and poison. They have tried to kill them, even if they have not been able to.

So, they have also played this game. But open war of these people, but it has happened. Russia went to Afghanistan. They both have done this. So, it is going on. And it has been going on for a long time.

Korea happened in Vietnam. America went. It is going on.

What is China doing in all this? Because China is like arguably the second most powerful country in the world right now. Right? May some say first, some say second, whatever. But at this point, America and then China here. And Iran's maximum export of oil goes to China. China imports 12-13% oil from Iran. So China is very important for Iran. And Iran is very important for China as well. But China is quiet in between all this.

China has a problem. How can China do it? If China intervenes in this, it can only go into the escalation matrix. If China comes and makes it happen, China won't be able to stop anything. First of all, China has established that China won't come into anything directly. Before the time of Sindhur, China helped Pakistan so much, there is no history of never helped anyone militarily. Because they want to keep a neutral stance.

And if they give technology and reposition their satellites, like they did for Pakistan, or JF-10 or PL-15. They are doing all these things secretly. They have given Iran technology, weapons, etc. But they can't come out openly. And the stage that is currently going on, Iran's biggest requirement is that someone stands with me openly. India is in a strange situation. You are friends with Israel and Iran, and both are enemies.

So, there is no matrix between the two. But you are friends with both. But India totally back off. of to So, there can be many things. Iran can engage us even today because if not India, then who? Who can talk to convince Israel or America? We are not doing so well with America, but we can convince Israel. We can do better than Oman. So, those possibilities are there. China, UN will not have any role in this.

Because UN has already been bypassed. US Senate has been bypassed. US Congress has been bypassed. All the world bodies or domestic bodies that could intervene in this, have all been bypassed.

Today, the current scenario of the world, now say Putin, say Trump, say Biden, say anyone after, talk about the head of the Chinese state,

world body is useless. All are useless.

At this point, because all the world leaders have said that we have no interest in international law. We have no interest in the UN, we have no interest in peacekeeping, we have no interest in trade organization, we have no interest in anyone. We run our own business. So, let's not even talk about bodies. It has been established that all this, in my opinion, I am very, I will talk like a layman, so don't quote me. I think this was all a drama of the international bodies.

Everyone just sat and passed time. Because these bodies were made so that if such situations come, they will save humanity.

Correct.

When this situation came, no one was doing anything. Neither are they doing anything.

See, now China is involved. The thing is, if China is involved, a country that wants to consume coal, that wants to drink petrol, it is so hungry for energy. China is asking for the world's most energy on today's date. China and America are the two countries. America has its own oil. Even if it doesn't have it, it will take it.

Because it is sitting in all the oil producing countries. China doesn't have that leverage. It has tried. It has tried to tie up with 2-3 countries. He has tried it with a few countries. But he can't satisfy his hunger. So, if this situation is out of his hands.

If... In between, he had said that China has said that US should open the Strait of Hormuz. And US said, we haven't closed it.

It's logical.

It's closed. It's automatically, we didn't close it. Logically, it's closed. It's automatically closed. Nobody wants to go there. So, if China gets involved in this, it can only ruin other things. This is the only hope of China. That by any means, by leveraging, by any means, by shouting, by crying, but if the end aim of the US is to suppress it industrially, the problem is that the US's inflation will go up. So, the US gets stuck there. But otherwise, there can't be a better opportunity for the US to suppress China.

India might still be able to survive in this. Because by some stroke of luck, our refineries can process Venezuelan oil. You know that Venezuela is a sludge type of oil. Even the US refineries need add-on Iranian oil. But we have the capability to treat and refine it and sell it. As of today, there are three very large tanker categories that are moving. Two million barrel capacity. So three of them in the month of March and April, they will reach India. So we are still not in the US, who is going to give us permission.

But your path to Russia has opened up. It was never closed. But it has opened up. Now it has opened up openly.

First, you need a back channel.

Yes. So, that has also opened up. So, for us, it is possible that as soon as these tankers hit, they are giving 5-day capacity to these 3 tankers. Then, the already loaded cargo of Russia will also reach you. Straight of Hormuz, if it stays for a little more time, It is coming from there for you. You are producing it. You have suddenly made Venezuela productive. So, Reliance has got a contract.

Straight from the government of Venezuela with no middlemen. Earlier, Chevron was involved. Now, it's straight. Same for IOCL, same for HPCL. So, these three companies are already part of the game in Venezuela's oil. US is not up to it. Because the capabilities of US refineries, their capability is made after mixing. Our capability is without it. So we are fine. That will be our opportunity. China is a little stuck for now. But if you look at the total energy consumption of China, then around 60% of China's total energy consumption

is met through coal. So till now… But that is just energy consumption is met through coal.

So, till now, but that is just energy consumption. Energy consumption will come from your industrial, your domestic. Where the car gets stuck, it gets stuck in vehicles.

how many Indian railways, 95-99% of them are electric. They are not diesel. But the cars running on the road, they need petrol. The trucks running on the road, they need petrol. Inflation will increase. So petrol and oil are the winners because you have to drive cars. That problem is also in China. It is such a vast country. Logistics is the king of today. All the things are based on logistics.

And China is a high consumption country. So in high consumption countries, consumer goods also become very expensive. If oil gets stuck. Like in India also. Like for example, today,

detergent is made from Lapsa. And that is a by-product of crude. It comes from there. LAB is that. And that has become expensive today. The thing, for example, if it was 100 rupees, it is not even in 200 or 250 today.

At this point, as we talk about in India.

It will come on plastics also.

Right. So, it will come on plastics also. It will come on plastics also. So, it will come on plastics also. So, even the small clothes you wash at home, that is going to be expensive. And it has already happened. And it will reflect in the whole world.

One thing is that...

Everyday consumption is getting expensive of country.

Correct. No, the bigger cost is trucking logistics. That cost is increasing. I am saying, trucking logistics, Logistics is... Trucking logistics, that everything that is going from one place to another,

that is increasing. That is increasing. Your car and industrial consumption has also increased. Correct. Then your daily regular consumption, from a plastic sheet to detergent, everything is expensive.

Everything will go. All those things will come under pressure. And high consumption countries are very problematic for this. So, all that... And it is very problematic for high consumption countries. So, who are the people in high consumption, industrial? China and India. America has its own oil and those who can extract it from behind also have it.

So, America will not be affected so much. Yes, if overall 100 dollars cross per barrel, then there is definitely a pressure.

So, what happens is, internationally, I don't know what price, but internationally, oil has become very expensive.

Yes, it has. So, they are saying that you are saying 100, it can go up to 200. Because the spare capacity, I mean, a lot of talks are going on. Spare capacity, the reserve, these European countries and everything, they had a meeting and they said, we will not release it now. There is no need. But that might just be a brave statement.

26% of supplies is a lot. And if Houthis also get active, Red Sea route also gets choked, another 8-9%, then 30-35% of the world is already stuck. So, 30-35% of the world's oil is stuck in a small place. So, every individual should be affected by this war and should take advantage of it. Otherwise, everything in their day-to-day life will become expensive.

Now, that pressure is on everyone.

It's not that Donald Trump can escape that pressure. That pressure is on everyone. And if he thinks that I will take out on China and India that I will suppress them, maybe they will still not suppress them, but small countries will suppress badly suppressed. There are the Vietnams of the world, there are the Philippines of the world, Malaysia, all of them need fuel. They will also get trapped.

We might empty our treasuries for a few days. Pakistan says we have 26 days, we say we have 54 days. But eventually, there are reserves. How long will you take out the reserves? The war has to end very quickly. Both parties know it.

And whether the goals of the war have been met or not, according to me, they won't be able to change the regime. Because if their fleet is sitting behind everyone, even all the destroyers, frigates, their entire navy is sitting behind them. All the destroyers, frigates, their entire navy is sitting behind them. There is nothing ahead. They know that if they go ahead, you will come in their range.

They cannot put boots on the ground because war of attrition is not in their DNA. And mountain terrains. And on top of that, mountain terrains. If you go to Afghanistan, you will be saved in Iran. There are very few chances. There was no one in Afghanistan.

It's a populous country. You are sitting on 93 million. It's not a small population, it's a big population. Then you have shadow proxy groups. Houthis who can support you from this side. Hezbollah can drop four rockets in a dead state.

That also counts as a nuisance value. When you sit at the negotiation table, sometimes a dead man can come and say, I have the same talent, I can slap you before I leave. That is also a nuisance value. So, all these things will count. So overall, that is the reason why I am saying that none of the parties, It is not in the interest of any party to do this. Triple bill. Correct. One is triple bill and the other is crisis.

Where do you think India is now? In between all this.

I love by the way where the way PM Modi and this government has actually managed geopolitics in the world.

Yes, India. Which is extreme. And this is not only for the world, but for the world. Forget about the Indian experts, that we can be biased. World's big foreign ministers, diplomats of the countries of global power, they are saying that what Dr. Jai Shankar and PM Mozi and now Piyush Goyal sir, they have done is, it's one of a kind kind of diplomacy in the world.

There is absolutely no doubt about it.

Like they have become friends with how strategic autonomy, if you want to give a clear example, this PM Modi and his government. I think at some point, this will be taught in the subject. About these people, what they have done. How can you be friends with America and Russia, China and France, Israel and Iran. How can you be friends with everyone?

And you are no protocol friendship with everyone. It's not a 20 feet friendship. It's a friendship where you join hands without protocol and roam in a car. And trade on with everyone. In the middle of war, Iran is attacking the countries of its brotherhood. In that Iran says that we will let go of India's tank. And Israel, whose war is of survival, knows that India is will let the Indian tank go. This will leave from here, no one else will stay.

And Israel, whose war is about survival, he knows that India is a friend of all of them, but still Israel is like, Modi is our best friend. He welcomes them in our clothes, in the clothes of India. To me, that is a new example of global perception, global friendship.

I remember when Trump was hit by a gun, and the sound was so loud. I remember when Trump was hitting me with his hands. I was telling my wife, this is so dumb.

Trump was hitting me with his hands.

I was like, wow, that's the US president. But it will be taught. I think genuinely it will be taught. Genuinely. And see, the thing is, he has not only managed good times, they have also managed bad times. Since the second tenure of Trump,

you can say that, whatever the reason, I think Pakistan has improved its situation a little bit by leveraging Trump and China. They have experience in this. Because Pakistan has done this work before. Uniting China and America. In fact, Pakistan was the one who brought America and China together. And the only country in the world where both have military bases.

Correct. So, this is a commotion in itself. So, Pakistan was sitting one level above us in the last 6-7-8 months. And what were the voices in our domestic politics? They were scared. Where did the 56-inch chest go? You know, very instigating also. A lot of instigating things. People were saying a lot of instigating things. Who is America to give you a month's permission? You got sold in a trade deal. What didn't he say? But he handled all these things very patiently and with style. He didn't feel that for a trade deal, Trump I'm giving you time till Friday, Monday, Tuesday. No.

Response. Chahe wo jitna bhi bol tara ki mujhse phone pe baat karo, chahe wo jitna bhi Trump ne bola ho ki mere saath meeting kar lo, ya kisi ne aur ne set karane ki, we just, we just feel like, we never thought. Humare terms pe hoga jo hoga. Agar problem kahin se aayi hai toh sirf humare domestic politics se aayi hai ki humne jo in I have so much power, you have so much power, and then you can sit quietly and not mess with me. So, what these people are facing today, we know about all those things. If I am in this situation tomorrow, then I have done these things, this is my less, this is my more.

Our entire experience was equal to that of op sindoor. But I still say that we did not need to remove the option. Frankly. Because at that time, our hand was so strong on Pakistan. If you see the condition of Pakistan at that time, it was in a bad state. And let's assume for a second that whatever the Pakistanis are saying the truth. The masked gunman is ours. What is happening in Malochistan is happening in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is our friend. We are doing what is happening in TTP. I am not saying that it is ours, but we all agree with them. All these things were so strong that we could have taught them a lesson in their own country to media that there was so much noise that where did the 56-inch chest go? We put a lot of hype on it that you have to retaliate. We had so many other ways to bring them on their knees.

And we had a plan. What happened was that because of Operation Sindoor, Asim Munir's power went up. And now he survived even in death. Because his army were gathered. At that time, the army was ready to break.

But the moment India attacks, the army will come together. So they broke. Do you remember what we used to talk about at that time? That Pakistan is not today, it is not tomorrow. That language suddenly ended. So that strong leverage of ours, we lost it.

That is my take on it. People will view it differently. Because at the end of the day, it was a successful, good operation.

It was a great operation.

It was a great operation. One thing which came out of it, what a lot of people did not see. India has made a defense deal of billions of dollars after that of other countries. Because we showed that show and showed precision. So, our defense technology is being bought by people worldwide and developed nations want to deal with us. Not just underdeveloped or small countries. Big countries are taking things from us. So, after that, it was great. Correct. Turkey is like, now they are back to their old ways.

That they are ready to give weapons to Greece, Azerbaijan is quiet, they are ready to give to Armenia. So, you know, Indonesia, a pure Islamic country, now these kinds of deals. So, operation wise, fantastic. But...

Defense deal wise, fantastic. Technology wise, fantastic.

But if we, its timing, instead of being under pressure, which was a public perception under pressure, and maybe because of media hype, it was more that when is the attack coming, when is the attack coming, we will do it today, we will do it tomorrow. So, in that, sometimes, a military acumen, the pressure, it was up so much to react very quickly that our upper hand over Pakistan might be out of our hands.

You have been a military member, so you can tell us more. Then maybe that's your view.

That's my view.

I'm sure. That is just my view. And not from a military perspective. I'm just saying, the pressure we had created on Pakistan. Maybe, but that's bygone. That's a bygone.

Maybe that's a...

Now, his second, like your question, that what is the loss we are facing now because of Iran vis-a-vis Pakistan. Again, I'll say the same thing. Suppose, mass gunman, And suppose, in the TTP, we are also making an intelligence effort. In the given situation, when there is no Iran or an unstable Iran, we cannot reach the border with these three or four people.

So, how were we able to do these things till now? If what Pakistan says is true, that we were there, then how were we able to do it till now? If we didn't have a border with Balochistan, if we didn't have a border with Afghanistan, if we didn't have a border with TTP,

then how were we able to do it? We were doing it through Iran. We can't break it through China. We can't come from Tajikistan. China, Turkey, Iraq, and even then, there was only one way, and that was through Iran. Suddenly that route is under challenge. So, where do we go through Iran?

See, Balochistan is West Pakistan, whose border is with Iran. If we want to support Balochistan directly, and Prime Minister Modi has very categorically said that we are in support of Baloch people. They are suffering from humanitarian crisis in Balochistan. They are throwing people in helicopters. People have died.

Women are fighting on the mountains. So, Balochistan is in trouble. We have to support them. to established again. We have invested in their infrastructure and development. How will you support them? You cannot do it through Pakistan. When the Taliban entered Pakistan, they refused to sell our rice trucks. So, the support could have been through Iran. How will that happen? Now, suddenly with Iran gone, these two, three things, they are immediately.

So, Iran's survival and good power is in India's favor.

In India's favor.

Yes, it was.

It was definitely until now. Because, like I said, we had good relations with Iran. If we were building a port in Jabar, if we were getting gas from them, if we were getting petrol from them,

our relations with Iran were always good. In the Sunni world, our relations have been bad, which have now improved. But with Iran, we... Many times it has happened that Ayatollah Khomeini gave many such statements that were completely absurd.

Like he asked the Kashmiri people to rise. Khomeini addressed the Indian Muslims directly and gave many reverse statements. He asked the Kashmiri people to rise. Indian Muslims could directly address Khamenei. There is no doubt about it. But overall, I think Iran was friends with us. So, as such, strategically, geo-strategic equations wise, we gain nothing.

We are actually on our back foot, because if we really have to support, if we have to support Baloch people, how will we do it?

What is the way?

There is no way. How will you support Afghanistan? How will the air traffic control fly from? The train can't go, nor can the bus, nor can the air traffic control come from anywhere. Which way will it come from? I mean, it's coming from Kuwait, Tajikistan, it can't come.

There is no way.

Interesting. See, coming back to America, that's probably going to be my last question is, do you think America, the most powerful country in the world, says that everyone should be our friend, we will support you. Many countries have been told that you don no need to make your military, America

will fight wars for you, things for you. And a bunch of the times they have done this. But do you think America is an unreliable partner now? The world is seeing it this way. Because he has controlled the dollars in Russia and Ukraine. The Russian dollars were almost over. So, he controlled the currency. He said that he will support Ukraine.

He instigated whatever, networked, but nothing happened. Till date, they are fighting. America is not helping there. All these countries, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, all these countries, America has made a base and said that I am doing nothing, I will end up doing it,

now they are being attacked, they are not doing anything. Like, wherever America has said that it will do something and it is a friend, it has always been proving that it is an unreliable partner within a year or two, and it will not happen if you make a friendship with it. Do you feel it's a big sign?

And because of this, there can be a change in order in the world? I will put it a little differently. It's not that America is unreliable. Where it has its benefits, it has its support. No, yes, it differently. It's not that America is unreliable. It has supported the countries where it has benefited. No. Yes, it is. Like Israel has full support.

America has supported the countries where it has supported. You can say that all the countries with white man's club, which is most of the NATO, the majorly white club of NATO, America's support is unconditional. Except for what is happening in Europe now.

Because the Ukraine war, like I told you, which happened with France, I think America is a participant in that. The francophone countries, which I told you, which were dependent on resources, America is sitting outside of all of them. The place where the coup took place, and the French troops left, the French military left,

the American military is sitting there. So, they are predating that if he will leave up, then my donkey is sitting here to eat. So, in white man's club, America's support is there. The rest, the poor country, there are some people who are properly connected with America. They have benefited. Japan.

You cannot say that Japan did not benefit. Japan benefited a lot. Korea. One is that there was protection from North Korea. And overall, Korea as an industrial power has increased. But in most places where America has entered, not because it was an untrustworthy partner, but because it was not capable of doing so after a point in time. His strategic goals were such that he would create such a mess

in the country that the countries would be destroyed. Examples, Afghanistan. The entire fight of the Mujahideen against the USSR, Pakistan and America, they were the people who got that fight fought. That country ended. Syria, America got the fight fought from behind, that country ended. Ukraine, America got the fight fought from behind. They are giving full support, doing everything. But that country, everyone knows the state it is in. So, the way they are handling the situation, that situation is ending that country. And that is a learning point for India. And I'll come to this interesting

part. Juki ek topic hai jo main, because your podcast. America had an old relation with India during the time of CIA and Tibet. It's not that everywhere China is wrong, but we were wrong in some places. In the 1962 war, we said that we were were saying bye bye to Indochina, we signed the Panchsheel Agreement, they attacked us and we were just crying in victim mode that the Chinese cheated us. That is a little wrong. We also did some things wrong and the wrong thing was America. We gave bases to America, we gave bases to India. We gave airfield, we supported Tuto establishment, the Tibetan insurgency against China. We gave

full support to that. We gave Dalai Lama asylum on the basis of CIA. We pissed China. We China had to retaliate. China had other reasons also. But this reason also, you have to add that we trusted America and we had to deal with them. And we had to pay for that. So, what is happening with Ukraine today, or what happened with Bangladesh or with other country, has already happened to us in terms of the 1962 war. Another thing that is being created, that is something which I want to point out. America needs a way, in Malacca, the Malacca Strait, the South China Sea, America is putting a lot of pressure on ways, whether through the Philippines or Vietnam.

America has a way through many countries. If there is nothing else, you have the sea route. So, America can put pressure there. America has no way to put pressure on this side. Pakistan is a friend. You got up from Afghanistan. Myanmar is an unstable country from where you can find a way. But the population is such and the terrain is clearly refusing. We have been asked many times, but we refuse.

That give military bases.

Military bases or any kind of military cooperation. Quad's military cooperation is sea-based. But India is in the land-based border where you are getting. And rightly so, we are not coming in that trap. And in such a desperate situation, and in today's date, a country called America has won at least 10 countries in the last three years.

In 10 countries, in 3 or 4 years, they have won wickets for 10 countries. And 5 or 6 of sorry, in your neighborhood. When there is a country on a wedding streak like this, you have to be very careful. Because it is like, now I am God. Namazuddin Siddiqui's dialogue was, I thought I was God.

So now he thinks I am God. So he can try that adventure at this time. I will tell you the reason for that. Your Northeast, in Bangladesh, the Prime Minister, she is on the record. She asked me for St. Martins Island. Okay. Now, I need your map again.

America asked for St. Martins Island from Bangladesh. Sheikh Hasina said, no, I won se America ne manga St. Martins Island. Hmm. Theek hai. Sheikh Hasina ne bol diya, nahi ji main nahi deti.

Kahan hai St. Martins?

Exactly.

Kahan hai St. Martins?

Wow.

Okay.

Theek hai.

So yeh India.

Nikla hai na, moonse wow nikla. Haan. Bangladesh to America. St. Martin's Island. No, no, it's up here. This is exactly where Myanmar and this is St. Martin's Island.

Okay?

America needs St. Martin's Island from Bangladesh. Sheikh Haseena said, I won't give it. Okay? Now look at its location. Myanmar

and Bangladesh.

So is this St. Martin's of Myanmar or Bangladesh?

Bangladesh. It is disputed but it is under the control of Bangladesh. This area from here to here is the entire Rakhin state of Myanmar. This is the area where Arakan army is now going on. Arakan army is a rebel army against the Myanmar government. This is the area from where the Rohingya are also coming to Bangladesh. So this is the house of Rohingya.

Okay.

Okay. This is Myanmar, this is Bangladesh. This is their second state, China. Now I will make it a little bit higher.

Okay.

And now see what is here. Okay. St. Martin's Island. Troubled area of Myanmar right now. This one, Lackeen State. Mizoram.

Manipur.

Nagaland. And Arunachal. And China. America wants to reach China. Now a small question, which western powers ruled over us? Britain and Portugal. One is Protestant and the sort of hardcore Roman Catholic.

Mizoram 100% Christian. Manipur almost 45% Christian. Nagaland 100% Christian.

Arunachal in the last 20 years from about 5% they are now 35 to 40% Christian in these areas. British ruled over us, Protestants. Portuguese Catholics ruled over us. But the missionaries who went to set before Christianity independence, they were American.

Surprised?

Oh, kya? Nagaland ka jo church hai, that is the Baptist Church of America, Boston based. Okay? Mizoram mein jo church hai, that is Prebysstian, woh Wales wala hai. Manipur mein jo church hai, Kuki, jouki, which is followed, that again is aligned to US. And the church in Nachal, which is now being expanded by missionaries, they are again US based. They are again Baptist church. So the missionaries who are actively promoting this area are, or duniya ka akela state which is majority Baptist, duniya ka is Nagaland. Around 70% of Christians in Nagaland are Baptist.

Waise 100% Christian hai, magar baaki 70% chahiye 70% are Baptists. Which means they are somehow connected with the US. US is on the record. CIA is on the record. They have made a statement in the Senate that we use missionaries for intelligence gathering, for destabilizing states. He has given a statement in 1950s and 60s. So, you understand what is happening? Just before the Bangladesh, the unrest in Manipur started.

How did that happen? You have to be careful. What is happening? Why did it happen suddenly? unrest, you have to be careful. Suddenly, cookies are Hindu, Nagas are Christian and cookies are Christian. Ladai hamesha Kuki aur Naga ki rehti thi. Magar is bar Kuki aur Mete ki ho gayi and thinks you know what is the status in Manipur. Now interesting, iske across jo Myanmar ka state hai wo Chin state. Ye jo area hai, ye Chin state hai. Matlab? Chin

state. This is also Christian. This is almost 80 to 90% Christian. Opposite to this, the other state of Myanmar is also a Christian state. The idea is, for a long time, the US is itching to find a way up. To China. To China. Because India is refusing. So now Bangladesh and buffer state. Bangladesh and buffer state. What is it, buffer state?

That buffer state is precisely this. So one is, this Arakan army which is US supported. It is Buddhist, but it is US supported, is Buddhist, but is US supported. And this whole thing is in turmoil because of Rohingya, because of Arakan army's fight with Myanmar and everything. Suppose this falls to America, and beyond this, the whole of Myanmar's Christian state, but it can't be that this is only Myanmar's Christian state. to And the moment Trump say?

Trump said Christianity in Nigeria because he said, in Nigeria, Christians are unsafe. Manipur situation both of the solved with the time that was going on for the last two years. As soon as this happened, again, there was a boil in Manipur.

Pointer number one, I told you that in geopolitics, bulbs keep on flickering. Pointer number two. The moment this bombing happened, there is a lady called Grace Collins. For a long time, she has been… She has been saying for a long time that Nagaland should be a separate state.

She used to get funding from the US for that. When we had a compromise with NACN, when we had agreements, after that, she became quiet. Now she has again applied to the Senate to start funding again. And this program, which is called Greater Nagalam, I want to start this project again. Now, I don't want to say for a second that the Christian in the Northeast of India is anti-India.

I don't want to say that at all. Because I have friends, I have lived with them. They are lovely people. Fantastic. Nagaland, Manipur, the Christians, they love India. And they are fantastic people. But when someone wants to play, he can play. And they have already played. The entire movement of Nagaland to separate from India was a guy named Fizo, who was very active in the 70s. Angami Fizo. What was his slogan? Nagaland for Christ. In Gujarat, Gandhi ji snatched the bottle. Who snatched Nagaland? Nagaland is a dry state. 100% Christian state and dry.

Christ has a wine glass. Naga doesn't have it. Their local drink is also gone. Because they wanted to create a very, very pure Christian state. So when you stir the sentiments,

things can go wrong. So as of today, Indian Christians from the Northeast, they love India. They are in our army. They have fought in Siachen, Kargil. Fantastic soldiers.

When I was in Nagaland, when they were ambushed, we used to say, what a soldier he is. Enemy worth his sword. So, I'm not saying that our Christian is anti-India, but if America comes to play this, I mean, if the CIA comes to play this, then they can play. So, this is one thing for which we have to be very careful today, especially because America is on an

ascendant now. If Iran gets what it wants, then you think about it, you have won a wicket in Venezuela, you have won a wicket in Pakistan, you have won a wicket in Bangladesh, you have won a wicket in Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, you have achieved everything you wanted to.

Next.

So, and right voices are coming. Why did that woman suddenly stand up? Why did unrest start again in Manipur suddenly? So, this is a ticking one. I'm going to be very, very careful on this because terrain difficulty or jungle, like full jungle to be very, very careful.

So that was my Northeast worry. And based on what we were saying, America to a dresser, America, So, in a way, the answer is that neither friendship nor enmity between the US is good. If you have enmity with them, then the situation in Iran is bad. And if you have friendship, then you can end up like Afghanistan or Syria. There are 10 such examples where the US has made friendship and the country has ended. Ukraine. It's like you have to be very calculated and then again I'll come to your point.

The maturity with which our current leadership is handling this, that is fantastic. We are not getting overly excited about anything and we are not getting suppressed in anything. It's not like we are getting suppressed and it's not like we are shouting so loudly that the other person says, what is going on? So a calculated, calm approach. But be careful of everything.

That's...

But thank you so much for this. Thank you so much Raj It was pleasure sir. Wonderful meeting you. Hi Hello, how are you? So glad to meet you. Pleasure meeting you sir. Please have a seat A lot about you and so I hope good things

Good things of course. Where are you coming from sir? Delhi? I'm born and brought up in Delhi. Yes

I'm really really fond up in Delhi, yes. Do you like Delhi?

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