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What's up, girl? You're fine, 21 now

I'm back, guys Now I'm 21, I came back from the gringas, I spent in Vegas Girl, you were missing there

I swear

She did the surgery

She did my surgery, guys, on my forehead You saw it, it was everywhere, people cursed

Really?

She went to do tests, she took tests

My friend can do whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted, guys. Stay at home in peace, Wey.

Your dad is happy.

I swear, girl.

He makes you stay at home.

You're beautiful.

Everything is fine.

Thank you. Thank God for you.

Everything is fine.

I miss you. We'll be back. I miss you guys. We'll be back. podcasts, watch the other interviews, right? It's a chat here, relaxed, with other artists that we know a little bit of their lives, learn and, finally, have fun. So, go get the food, because today the chat will be too good with our guest, right? So, follow all

the networks, podcasts, Camila Loures, Mari Menezes, and that's it. logic, I mean gun, you'll be safe colocal pacific killa We start with going out of the bomb is a great separator She's a result do come here so thin you're gonna discover. Okay. Come on You're more daily or as musically para Brazil todo mundo para para dançar para cantar junto como seis de to dance and sing along. With you, Zé Felipe!

Yeah!

Give it up for Zé, guys!

Clap, guys! I want a clap!

I know I have to respect you, because you're almost the owner of this podcast.

Yeah, since the debut.

I was born, I was born.

Yeah.

You've been here so many times.

I'm the first one, man.

Yeah, you were the first. Oh my God, it's been a while. How long has it been, two years? It's been about four. Five years. Damn, it's been a while.

Ten years.

I was born.

I was born. What, my friend?

We're together. You're crazy.

I need help to get down this down. It's too high.

I'm too high. Help! Production can help me.

Help me, Niglis.

It's a quick technical error. I'll be uncomfortable.

We're live, guys.

It's live. It's like this. Can you lower this chair? Otherwise, I'll be like this. It's higher.

He'll get the 3x. Anyway, Zé. What's up? How are you? Are you ok? I'm good, and you? I'm great, you know. You're a gold medalist.

Mario do Preixecão is a hit.

I was going to say that today.

I opened his Instagram and he said he's going to see Mario do Preixecão.

I don't mind.

No, but I don'tously. Don't you think Mario Menezes is better? Nowadays, brands hate that I'm Mario do Prechecão. Nobody wants to work with Mario do Prechecão, man.

Yeah, but we took Mario do Prechecão.

True, it was Mario do Prechecão. I met you as Mario do Prechecão, back in the roots of mine, in Cartagena, you were at the beginning of my life. Yeah. And today I'm here. Look how happy I am to interview you. Marmelês. Zé, tell me, how was it? In your beginning, you were born among the famous, your family always at the top. Did you have any difficulties with that when you were a kid?

Did you always feel it? Did you always know you were famous? Man, actually... It's because it's very different when you spend time with us, right? When you see, for example, a father or a brother, famous, you think it's weird, but it's another person. When it's with you, it's totally different. But I think that it never was a burden or anything. I thank you. I think that everyone likes affection, even dogs. And we're not going to like it. So I'm grateful. I'm grateful to God for my work. I think that this makes my music...

It has a lot of attention, I keep looking at the chair, I can't say anything.

I also have a lot of... I can't think of what to say.

But I don't think I'm heavy, to sum up.

Never, let me know if you liked it.

I'm not even there, I think that who likes it, likes it, who doesn't, doesn't like it.

But did you feel like a child, when things changed because of you being famous?

No, because I think that boys don't care about that. They don't care? They want to run. Sometimes... I was born like that, I don't know how to say it, if I wasn't, you know? But I think it was never something that weighed on my that ever made me feel superior.

But did you always want to be a singer? When you saw your father sing, did you always want to be a singer?

Or did you...

I've always liked singing. I've always liked music, music has always enchanted me. And then you start... Actually, I started when I was 14, but my turning point was after 5 or 6 years of career, that things changed, that it became what it became.

So, living what you love, being able to do what you like, what you believe in, is very gratifying. So's very gratifying. So I'm very grateful. I always try to reinvent myself, to do different things. Because I think the beginning, when you come up, is something new.

So it's... It gives you that curiosity. But after a certain time, if you don't do something different, you're screwed.

Yeah. Today, you're a complete artist, man.

Thank you.

Now your latest album came out, Forró. Forró, so good!

I wanted to do a Forró to play in a bar, you know? It's been a while since I've done music to play in a sound booth. And today I listened to it, playing in a bar.

I said, yeah!

You like to do music for everyone. Then you released funk, country music, reggaeton...

Yeah, everything. I think it's...

And the good thing is that at the concert everyone will be happy, you know? Everyone. Everyone will be satisfied, you know? Everyone will go out.

Yeah, I think it's kind of bad, you know? In a way, it is too bad. If you like my music too much, you hate it, but you feel something.

It's nice to travel to all areas. You also live this experience, learn there, exactly in another rhythm, with other people, do other collabs. That's cool.

And if you limit yourself, you limit yourself to do only this, you limit yourself to limit myself to doing just that. You're going to limit yourself to growing, learning, new experiences. And another thing, life is one.

True.

There will be people who will like it, and people who won't. But when you die, the land on your face is yours. So you have to do what you love, the way you don't harm anyone. And something that won't weigh on your conscience. The rest, my friend, fuck it, go to the top.

Do you have a favorite style? Everything. I listen to everything.

I depend on the day I wake up. There are days I wake up with a bra, there are days I wake up with a funk, there are days I wake up with a country style. Don't you have an emotional attachment to the country? I have, because I was raised there, but today... with the internet, there's no more of that, right? I think that was a lot back then, when it was just radio, television... Today, you get to a party, you're playing funk, the stage is breaking,

and you get to a... here, at any party in São Paulo, you're playing sertanejo, so there's no more of that. I think that what's good think people will like what's good. And it will generate something when you listen to it. I'll say, wow, that's shit. Wow, this is different, this is good. It's a whole, you know?

An interest in your life. That generates interest in your music. It's a whole.

Speaking of that, since there's so much public opinion, are you very alienated on social media?

Who?

Alienated on social media.

Are you chronically online, like we say?

I am, but I don't let it shape me. I think people are very afraid to be authentic,

afraid of people's judgment. But it's because everything we do is judged. I had a forehead surgery, they commented here, I had a forehead surgery, people cursed me, because I was having a forehead surgery, which is something that bothers me. You know? It's the same thing, I don't know,

with those who have a bandaged ear, or those who have a nose, I don't know, it's something that bothers you. Can't you do something to feel better? Then the person said, Why? I did it.

I like to tell things like... So people get involved in everything,

like you, every day.

I stay at home and I'm depressed. I leave home and I'm at the party, I'm an alcoholic.

I'm not even giving a shit.

So, Joazin, it's really scary to really say everything you think or show everything you do because the people who do the same thing or say the same thing are there to judge you. So, you're really not that person. You're not the person who hides, you're in there, you say it.

Everything you say becomes the subject. I just opened my phone and you were saying that you have bad skin.

What a pimple.

I just saw it on Leo Dias.

My skin is oily.

Everything you say becomes a topic. Do you care about that? Or are you just there to break it?

No, I'm not.

Don't you have to watch people all the time?

But then you...

You get crazy.

Yeah, if you start to take it easy, what are you going to do? Yeah. You're not going to live? I think we have to live the way we like. We work hard to have a comfortable life, to be able to travel, to be able to give our children a good life,

to maintain a standard of living, but you have to do what you like. You can't just do it because because I'll take a picture. I worked so hard for this. Sometimes I can't take a picture, I complain. I like it. I'm a homebody by essence. I did a lot of good in the university. I met her there.

In the new year, you met her.

She looked like the night of the chameleon. I said, who is this young woman?

He looked like a death group.

He arrived at the middle of the party. We were already more to the side than to the side. Wow! That day you were there, you passed New Year's Eve in Pipa, right?

Yes, I met you there.

Was it the crazy thing you passed there? Yes, I arrived 10 minutes. That day I left crying. It was chaotic. I was with a friend of mine, who I never fight with. We are very close, we never fight. I was drunk, I didn't care. I left crying that day. You spent the New Year in the Northeast too.

Naked, with all your feet wet.

You were totally wasted. But when you are at these parties, you can be who you are, even with everyone there. Because, for example, you were in a dressing room, but everyone was looking at you.

But then you drink a couple of shots and you leave the dressing room, and people are already a little bit drunk, and everyone hugs you and becomes friends.

They become friends.

Then a crazy person comes and wants to fight. It's like that. It's like everyone else. You let it go, right? You don't drink.

And Camila is also very homey, I think.

I am.

You don't go out much, right, girl? I'm the one who's a mess.

But I like shows. I like shows.

But you go out a lot, right? You go out a lot.

Yeah, I think I like shows to concerts. How is your routine? It's over. Do you prefer, if you could choose, nowadays, to go on tour everywhere, every weekend, or just be an influencer?

Isn't it tiring, the singer's routine?

Going everywhere.

It's boring sometimes to get there,

because... to get to the concert, because...

Getting to the concert is a lot of things.

Hotel, being away from home, not sleeping... Like you sleep at home. Shitting in your bathroom is much better than shitting in someone else's.

But when you get to the concert and see people singing your your song, the things you did, the things you produced, it's so gratifying. It's worth it. So I think it's addictive. My dad is 40 years old and he can't stop performing. And we stay at home, I miss home,

we stay at home for 3 or 4 days and you get frustrated. I need to do something, I need to work, I need to do a show. And it becomes a routine, I think that no artist can stay 100%. You can get to a stage in your career where you can choose not to play as much as before, but staying at home 100% is not 100%. I don't think I can.

Do you want to move to Goiânia, my friend?

I would move to Goiânia, if it was only to Miami.

Just to go outside, right?

Really?

And now you're building your house in Goiânia, right?

I'm there. I bought the street and it's almost ready.

It's almost ready?

I saw it.

Three fancy pools in the room! Too fancy! When will it be ready?

In about 40 days.

Because construction is always a tumult.

I told you I was getting the house ready. I don't know what happened, but the guy went after the house.

I told him I wasn't going to say that. But is this the one you bought?

No, I don't buy a house.

You don't buy a house? You rent it?

Really?

Do you believe it?

But the one you're going to move to, you bought it?

It's rented. I'll buy a house only when I go out for a walk. Sometimes I get sick of it.

But why? Do you get sick of the house? Really? I'm a bit greedy Like, if you want to move to Miami, you can rent another place

Yes, but then I have to have a place here too

But are you renting? Are you moving the house?

No, I'm just getting...

Ready?

Yes

I see

I'm not buying, because I'm going to...

You rent it, you move out and that's it

But in Goiânia, because of the kids, José... Don't you invest in real estate? I thought everyone invested in real estate.

Did I go too far?

No, you invest in other things.

It's us. We both invest in real estate.

But it's too good. Are you crazy? Real estate...

Yeah, it's good.

Land, farm... There's no mistake, right?

But you have a farm, right?

Yes.

There's just a few But it's crazy, you know?

There are houses for real estate

Why do you live in Miami?

I like Miami, have you been there?

Have you liked it or not? I like it, but every time I'm in the US I prefer other places than there I think Miami... those... I think Miami is cool, but it's a beach and...

Yeah, I like the music there, you know? I have a lot of producer friends there and I think it's cool. There's a lot of Latin music, actually it's all Persian, right? So I think it's cool.

Here in São Paulo, you don't live there?

I lived here for two years, I couldn't stand it.

It's very trans.

But you have an apartment here too, right? Yes, I do. It's near the airport.

Near the... what's it called?

Guarulhos.

Congonhas.

Yes, Congonhas is closer to here, because from Guarulhos, you take... depending on the day, it's 2h30.

It's far. Who's from Goiânia... BH has a lot of traffic. Yeah, but the peak hours are everywhere. Yeah, but if you compare São Paulo to Goiânia, sometimes you can see where you have to go, and you don't get there in two hours. And the bus is honking.

Do you drive? Oh no, Zé, you don't drive. Only in the condominium. Me too, my friend! You too? um I imagine you driving a truck and stuff. I swear.

A tractor.

A life tractor.

A truck?

Yeah, I'm a truck.

What is that, man?

But you're not curious or are you afraid?

No, it's more about the well-being of others, right? Of other motorcyclists, people like that.

Oh my God.

Do you drive in the condominium? I drive in the condominium? I drive in the condominium. And do you ride a motorcycle in the condominium?

I don't know how to ride a motorcycle. But I got a car now, what's it called?

The TV?

Yeah. Oh, it's great.

I have one at home.

It's good.

I put the kids there.

Yeah.

They can go out and drive. He loves it. He wakes up and does this. Oh, how cute!

He has to take it.

What do you think about your son, who pulled you?

Man...

I always see you as a good, calm guy.

I can tell you that you're invoked. You're showing your claws. I think Maria Alice is like a mother. Flo is like a daughter. And I don't know about José.

I think he is like a mix.

He is in the middle of the two.

A mix. And speaking of son, how was this turning point for you? Do you think a lot has changed in you, Zé Felipe, to become a father?

Man, I think... There's no way to describe it. I think it's something very... It's like when you're born, you don't... At least I don't see... It's like it's always been there my whole life.

You don't remember before your children. And there you discover the love that your mother and your father have for you. You know? It's a love that no child will ever be able to love a father and a mother as much as a father and a mother love their child. But then you start to understand the love, the concern of your father and your mother. You start to see it the other way.

Because it's in you, you know? It's crazy, man. The greatest blessing in the life of a human a human being's life. Being a father, being a mother, too. I think you can see the love God has for you when he allows you to have a child.

Do you want more?

Yes.

Really?

Yes.

Yes.

How many more?

As God commands.

Come here. My God. Three kids. But how many? As God wills. Do you want to have how many? I want to have two. I don't know.

I want to have at least one boy and one girl. If there's a girl, there's another girl. I'll try to have a boy.

As God wills. So, as, how many gods can you find? I think we only discover... So, how many gods can you find?

Exactly.

But I think there's one thing that I think we only discover, like, being a mother, but I'm very afraid of giving birth. It's that men are very simple to have children. You go there, have the child, now the't know if I want a C-section or a normal C-section, for God's sake.

C-section, right?

It's easier, right? But even on the internet, people say, you know, right?

Oh, what a C-section, it can't be a C-section.

But then, their skin won't be a C-section. C-section is more...

But I also think you can't have multiple C-sections, right? I or if it's like for a certain amount of time, that sometimes you have to give a little time to have another you had one after the other, right? is it better like this?

yeah, because you raise them together

I think that's the character of a partner, like my brother we are very partners

what's the age difference?

3 me and my sister are 9

you have a brother for all ages I have a brother for all ages. I have a brother for all ages.

Do you think that's why you were inspired to have so many brothers? Do you think that's why you have so many children and a big family?

I think that, for example, it was all very fast in my life. And I think that the age I had is good, because when I'm older I won't be so old. So we can enjoy it together. My brothers, even though I have 5 brothers and each brother is a mother,

we are a great partnership. We don't care about talking, I don't care about my brothers when I meet them. But we're a great partnership, you know? We're not too much of a talker, I don't call my brothers when I meet them. It's wonderful, it's something that's free, you know? And I think that's the coolest thing. But whenever anyone needs the other, it's there.

I think that's what brothers are, right? You don't need to be a mediator with your brother.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, my sister, we... Since she was born, we've been together. She doesn't live without me. She cries when I'm away.

And with your parents, you're also very close, right? I am. You call them, you go to their house... You live in the same condominium, right?

I always go there when I can. I'll have lunch there. Do you call your parents? Do you ask for their opinion? I don't call my parents often.

Do you believe that?

I don't. Does your mom call you often?

Yes, she does. I had to get better at it. I don't call my parents. I don't know if it's because of the ADHD. I don't miss my parents very much.

Really?

No. I too. Really? No. I forget.

Really?

Yeah, so I have to cop myself with that. But whenever I'm in Goiânia, and the kids are at home there,

I...

If you don't go, Paul will go get you.

But I always go.

I love it.

Paul, a kiss, my friend.

I love you, Leo too. A kiss for you. Kisses, my friend! She's wonderful, you too, Leo.

Kisses to you.

Are you living alone?

Living alone? In a condominium, next to my mom.

João was living with you, right? João was.

He was, wasn't he?

He was, but now he's moved.

And you're not missing him?

João? No, he a long time. Since I was 4 years old. 4 years? I see he's your partner.

Are you family?

My father is João's godfather.

I see. So, we grew up together. Together. But I'm talking about the years before the house was full.

Yes, but he only doesn't sleep there, I stay there all day.

And you two stay there?

Me, him, Bactéria.

There's a giant team there too.

The three of us and the kids, who seem to have 100 people. Babá.

Is it one babá for each one?

One babá for each one.

But they are my dears, right?

Too much.

And then I roll around at home, babá, talking all day, with kids, screaming, crying.

Do you have a division, like 15 days, 15 days, that you talk according to the schedule?

It's the schedule, because there's no... Our schedule is very...

Crazy, right?

Very crazy.

And artistic. Because our schedule is very... Crazy, right? Very crazy. So, I'll be in Goiânia, you'll stay with the kids here, and I'll go. And it's like that. So, there's not much... This thing of 15 days here, 15 days there...

It's better like that too.

And another thing, even in a condominium, you know? The routine is on the side, it's 100 meters from each other. So, the kids can go on foot. So, it's very practical.

Now, my friend, let me ask you. You're going to throw your party there. I'm going to BH. You're invited. This Saturday, the 18th. BH people, the whole region, the whole country. Let's go to BH.

I'll be there toestigious, my friend. You can count on me.

What time?

Well, from 10pm, right? No time to finish.

The first party will be in BH, right? BH.

It's called...

One a year. One a year. Why this name?

Because it's one party a year in each city. So it's a unique party, you know? Each city will be a unique party, you know? Each city will have a unique party. So you can't miss it, you know?

That's why.

Because they come only next year. And why did you choose BH to start?

Because BH already had this desire, and everything I did in BH was always great. Camila went to a show there, we did one in Mineirão. And it's a very exclusive party. You know, for a thousand people, these labels, most of them are for, I don't know, 10,000 people, 15,000, so...

I wanted to make a more intimate training so we could enjoy it together, right?

Yes, yes, I understand.

Work and enjoy. So, BH, we have a really cool audience in BH too, there's a family in BH, there's friends. So, we decided to start in BH.

Are you excited?

A lot!

The crowd will go wild!

Yeah!

Let's go!

Let's be there!

It's going to be awesome!

The crowd will go wild! You are invited, the whole family, and the crowd will go wild!

It's going to be great, Camis!

I told them, guys, it's not that simple. I know there's a jet that's fast, it leaves from there, it leaves from here. I don't know where, but I'll try to go. But you're all invited. But are the tickets still on sale?

It's on sale.

It's on sale. It's ending.

Good news.

It ends fast because it's very exclusive. It's not a thing...

It's a bit...

Intimistic.

And that's great, man. I went to the last year, this year, right? To the shows... The ship, right? I went to Jorge Matheus' ship, Gustavo Lima's. Man, it's great, because you're there and it's so intimate.

You get so face to face with the artist. It's very nice, because... I don't know, 4,000 people, it's close. You enjoy it more, you know? It's very good, I'm sure it's going to be amazing. I'll be there.

Do you have many friends who were followers, who were fans of yours? These things, because you're so... You like this thing, being with the crowd, anyway. I have...

You're more closed.

No, I'm more reserved. No, I'm not the type to go out a lot. I'm very homey. But when I go out, I like to talk. Same thing. It's hard to go out, but after you go out...

Do you make easy friends or are you not confident with people?

I'm not at all.

You trust him and you talk to him all your life?

He takes me to the car. You're crazy. You open up a story and think about it. I heard a saying these days, we usually think about it and talk about it, and then we talk about it and think about what we said.

You're spontaneous, right? You just opened the camera and said it, and these pearls you drop...

It's yours.

Then I get angry and... Then it goes away. Then the guy gets a little boring, and then he disappears a little. He's so boring, I'm like, what the fuck?

The life's rap.

Rap! No, but I have some strange... You're spontaneous, you're funny, man! You're funny, you know?

I'm like this, I'm going, Camis. I'm living my life, making my songs, saying what I think, sometimes wrong, sometimes right.

And it's part of it.

And the stage is broken. And thank God, it's an eternal learning. God is giving health, we are here to work and try to improve every day, at least a little bit more.

José, what do you think was your greatest learning now? Not now, right? In so much career time, with your solo career.

My greatest learning is to listening to myself more. Sometimes you don't believe in something, I think you have this thing that you need a lot of validation from people. Of course you make music for people to listen to. But I think that sometimes we follow the market too much and stop doing something that you really believe in,

you, out of fear. I think that fear is a big barrier, a limit. So, when I went the song, For example, it was a song that no one wanted me to release. Most people didn't want it, and it was the song that made my cashier go from 60 to 400.

Damn.

So, it was a turn...

Oh, my God.

For me, it was a of key in my career. So, if I had listened and not let people in who said, oh, let's not do this, I don't know what, I don't know what, I don't know what, I wouldn't have changed the level of my career. So I think I learned to listen to myself more. I'll put a mother me a career don't ask you to go up and jam is cool. Tom. I watch you a movie pillow Doesn't see a silenced. I'll keep talking to my corporate

I'm fine. It's coming to a psychological no

Salva I got a lot of top a name a my CEO to view a posse a posse was chief Chris yes, you're dad Chief chief you tava tava move to Seattle remedy. No, you don't you tomahawk I had anxiety attacks. I was addicted to medication. I took 10 pills to sleep, plus 35 other pills. One day I took it and looked in the mirror and my eye started to turn. I said, oh my God.

I fell asleep, I didn't even think about it. I was like, I'm just going to bed, I'm going to force myself not to die. I went to bed, I slept, and the next day I woke up and I said, my God, I have three kids, what am I doing with my life? It's much more precious that God gave us life. I said, I need to change this.

That's when I understood that I was on the run. I was taking this much medicine to sleep, sometimes in the afternoon, to escape from a reality, and try to mask something I was feeling. I went to the doctor,

I went to the psychiatrist, I went to the psychologist, and I understood that, like, I did an exam, low vitamin D, high cortisol, that's when I said I put on the testosterone train, people said my dick wasn't getting harder,

and... I put testosterone, people said my dick wasn't getting harder. I said I put testosterone, but his dick doesn't get harder. I said, fuck it, I'm going to give tips to others. I wanted to help.

Because the dick is clean.

But it was really bad?

What? The dick?

I want to tell you about the respect I want to give you. Because it's clean. But it was really bad? What? The plant? Yeah, man. You mean with all due respect, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. So you put the testosterone and people started talking.

No, but then I... To sum up, I went to the psychiatrist, I started taking... Then I had anxiety attacks. Have you had it?

No.

Yes.

Have you?

Yes.

Too bad, right? I'll keep Christian said I'd get out. Yeah, dude. No, see you When you might get the same no, you'll keep you single. You'll keep both and you don't show me BH Do you know you didn't? I don't know Pensando that you're running a marathon. And I thought, Oh my God, am I going to die here in this plane?

I'm going to die quietly here. They'll see only me.

Was it your first crisis in the city?

Yes.

And you didn't understand anything.

I didn't understand anything. I was quiet, my hand was sweating. And I thought, Oh my God, am I going to die quietly because I thought I was going to choke.

No, no, the plane was with people, right?

It was in the air, it was dark, and I was there, Letícia, who works with me, there were two more people, quietly, but the anxiety crisis goes away. I thought, he must be tired, he doesn't know, he doesn't understand, he's ignorant. Sometimes men are ignorant with these things. Then I had another one, I went to do a show in Ceará, and I had another one on stage, thinking it was the same thing. Then, my God, what's going on?

Then I had a panic attack. A panic attack is like an anxiety attack, but it's a hangover. The anxiety attack, you look at it and you're like, it's over, it's over, you're going to live your life like that. But the panic attack, you get a hangover.

What do you mean?

You get three for three days. When I got sick, I had a sick body. It looked like I was on a diet, like I had been drinking all day. I said, man, I'm not feeling well. Something is happening and I think I'm tired. I didn't know what it was. So I went to the doctor and took some medicine.

I did some therapy. It's wonderful, man. And men sometimes, I say this because men sometimes have this prejudice with therapy, they have this prejudice, you know, I go to the psychiatrist, it's a crazy medicine. People have this wave, a lot of people have it, and another thing, everyone is crazy, man.

Everyone has a crazy thing, no one is 100% right.

No one is clean in 2017.

No one is clean.

Then I started doing exercises too. I took advantage of it, right? I put on testosterone and I stopped doing exercises. And I took care of it. Now, thank God, I'm fine. I'm happy, I'm safe.

And I'm happy, I'm safe, and I'm very happy. Have you seen the Burnout? It's like a pile of things, like work, a lot of things in your head.

What? Another thing? This Burnout?

This Burnout is like...

He's choked, he's sick of Burnout.

It's like so many things that you get stuck, like, you start... What am I doing with my life? You get stuck, you know?

You don't think so?

No, I didn't have that.

No, thank God. You're crazy.

I didn't have that. I was just thinking I was dying.

And then you started therapy and it got better.

Then I had...

What's it called?

What's it called? The panic of... It's not depression, it's... Depression is... I don't know what depression is. Depression crisis? Yeah, I had that. Depression again.

What year was that? Last year?

Last year. Last year.

Damn.

How good that you're opening.

Soon... March? April?

But you didn't talk about testosterone these days.

I did talk about it now.

But it happened there and you went to tell them now, right?

Yeah.

I see.

I thought I'd be the first one. I'm not getting any better.

You're going to tell people and give them shit?

Are you crazy?

Did you put a chip?

I did.

People say it's good for women to put it.

It's good for women. It's good. And mine was... Do you know how many testosterone I got?

100.

Oh my God. The normal is what? 1000?

I think 500. Normal. 100. If you said, You're beautiful. I would cry.

I would cry.

You didn't have the energy to do the show.

No, not at all. It influences a lot. He's always so hysterical. He sees his wife hiding, with her hair in the air. He gets really bad. He starts to hit the rock in the chest.

It's a disaster.

Does it affect your personal life a lot?

I think what... what... what hurt me, what made everything go down, was the amount of medicine. I was taking a lot of medicine.

A lot of medicine.

A lot of medicine. Then the guy goes...

He takes medicine to shake.

Medicine to sleep, medicine to wake up, medicine to blink, medicine to...

But nowadays, do you still take so much medicine?

No, I stopped

I'm afraid of taking medicine I don't take anything I'm not sure, but I think I have ADHD I can't focus on many things you're saying I can't pay attention to you

If I'm talking to you, I start to notice I already lose the subject Me too

I'm afraid of taking medicine with the addicted I don't know But you have 20 I get lost in the subject. Me too. I'm afraid of taking medicine with addicted people.

Some people have 20 years. If you go to a psychiatrist and do something...

I started doing those things.

But I think that medicine for sleeping is strange. Don't do that. It's very difficult to let go.

Melatonin is good, right?

It's natural.

It's natural. And you're training every day? Every day. And the gym also helps a lot, right? I love it. I found myself a lot in the gym.

You stop your mind a little bit and work naked there.

You stay all day on the phone.

You wake up on the phone and sleep on the phone. The other day I woke up asking Chatty to pray for me.

Oh, no, not for you.

Oh, Zé. I swear to you.

Oh, Zé. I swear to you. I swear to you, man. I said, what am I doing? I asked Chatty, I said pray today, pray for me. Pull it out, read a verse and pray for me. She prayed with me. When it was over, I said, what am I doing? I prayed and asked for forgiveness.

I'm crazy.

And you prayed right.

I prayed right, man! I'm crazy, man!

You use it, you use it, chat.gpt.

I use it a best, chat.pt, chat.pt It's the best, man It's the solution to human life

Today you're really going to ask Laura, you're like, give me a verse, give me a passage And she explains everything right, she says everything right

But it's good to study the Bible, right? To study the Bible, it must be cool

And sometimes you have a doubt there, you say,

Hey, give me a passage Guys, my chat has a name, so I talk to it. It's like my psychologist, everything. And I have all my chat files, even when I was really bad. It's good for you to use it even when you want to prove something to someone. Look at my chat, on this date, on this date, I'm saying this, this thing.

Really?

That's crazy, right, bro?

It's crazy, right?

Don't you use it a lot? I use it, but it's like to see who's the...

I don't know, the creator of the chicken wing.

The three-legged. I just started, I saw it in your face.

You're that person who's like, why does grape call grape?

Like, you have a lot of interests.

But I have these waves, like...

But yeah, friend, we wake up with our phones, sleep with our phones. And the other day I went to check my schedule, I think it was 16 hours with my phone. I was like, what is this?

I use it a lot too. But do you love the gym? Was it a refuge for you?

Not really, but it's very strong.

It's very strong. I have a problem. I'm the hardest at the gym, but I try. Do you go every day? When I'm here, yes. But when I'm in a rush to travel, I say, I'm traveling, I'm going to train.

But it's good for the head.

It's good.

So, not only the gym, but other sports too. You don't do anything else. You don't ride a horse, or I don't know, football?

Yeah, sweating is very good. You turn off the phone a little bit, I like to run. Do you like to run? I don't, I'm not tired.

Do you ride a horse? No. Really? You were raised on a farm and you don't ride a horse?

Do you swear?

No, I don't like riding a horse. A horse bites us. I've bitten a horse once, but I'll never ride a horse again.

So you're not a bulldozer? No. I ride a truck with air, you know? I've never ridden a horse before So you're not a bullfighter? No Do the kids ride?

They ride in a truck with air conditioning, you know?

The owner of the farm, he rides in a truck, he's a farmer's boy

But do the kids ride horses?

They do José doesn't like it either, he prefers air conditioning But Maria Alice loves horses, she loves animals

Animals, right? Do you have that thing of being very attached to animals?

I like dogs, but... Like...

And in your house, do you have a dog now that you're living alone?

No, I'm going to get one. I want to get a caramel dog, the one that barks, hot, you know?

All day long?

Yeah, I want to get a little caramel. A dog that's there from the little square over there. I want to get someone to come to my house and get a little hiccup.

I want to get someone to come to my house and get a little hiccup.

I want to adopt.

Let me tell you, I launched my brand. Let me tell you, I launched my brand. Where is it? I brought a gift for him. Now that you're in this phase, my love,

there's whey, there's pre-treatment, there's creatine. Yeah, my friend. I'll send it to you later. I want it so much, thank you. I'll send you all the flavors.

It's here, it's in the gym too.

Oh, everyone's trying.

Thank you, Camila.

Amen, my friend. Amen, thank you. Yeah, Mari, and you? By the way, guys, today, until midnight, go to the website viva-yoho.com.br, that on sales above R$ 119

you get a Yoha bag, go there, enjoy it, I use my coupon Camila for 10% discount, so Mari...

I was going to say that, my coupon is already available because next week it will already be available for you.

I love bags. Beautiful bags. I want one. I'll ask for one. You can get it with your coupon. You can get it for free. Honey.

Go to the website and take advantage to buy your supplements to take care of yourself. It's very important. Life is a dream. We work, do this, do that, but without health you can't do anything.

Health is something money doesn't buy.

Exactly.

Sometimes you buy comfort, not suffering so much, but health has a price. It's much more valuable. That's why it's important to take care of yourself, I don't suffer that much, but health is expensive. It's much more valuable.

That's why it's important to take care of yourself,

take a class, practice a sport.

You learn, right? I think it's so cool to see people interested.

And we're not just talking about health, but also about the mental health, which is one of the most... I think it's the main thing.

The guy with a sick mind, he hurts himself and he hurts everyone.

True.

He hurts everyone who loves him.

So, you should take care of yourself. Everyone is there.

Zé!

What's up?

Let's talk about how your heart is. You're such a... Zé's love life has always been hectic. Now it's calmer. How's your heart?

It's calm, I'm just not showing it.

And is it living off?

Yeah.

Better?

I'm trying.

Stop it, Zé, you show everything!

No, but...

We like to know everything!

Everything?

No, but now I'm calm. At least... When I'm with the kids at home, I'm calm. When I'm with the kids at home, I'm calm.

I understand, but when the kids are not there, you're calm. Then I'm in the world.

You're in the world.

That way.

Did you finish a short time ago?

It's been a day before the referee.

It's true, you just got there and I was like, what? What happened? I'm such a fag.

Were you suffering?

No, never. I was in a bad phase. Thank God it's over, 4 months.

But are you more of a boyfriend or do you like to... Now that you're also discovering this new phase, being single and all...

Actually, I'm too intense, you know?

Are you following me?

Bull.

Bull? You're a summer boy, right?

I'm a bull's first day.

But, friend, you're not intense with anyone. With whom you have a connection. With whom you felt it was worth being intense. Or with everyone. Like, you're with, who you felt it was worth being intense with. Or with everyone. Like, you've been with someone, and that's it.

No, no, no.

It's like, but when...

With whom you have...

Yeah, there's...

There's a little something, right?

There are people who are different, right?

Uh-huh.

From the league.

Uh-huh.

Have you always dated? when you started dating? I was 11. Wow!

Wow!

She was 13. 13?

I thought she was beautiful.

I started dating at 14, I thought she was super young. 11 years old? But it wasn't a serious relationship?

No, it was just... Yeah, school thing.

Not even kissing in the mouth.

I guess I did kiss.

Now get ready.

I didn't know much, but I did kiss.

I want to see Maria Alice and Maria Flor 11 years old. Wow, man, can you believe I'm already... Are you jealous?

I am, man.

Do you keep thinking about it? Because you were there with a 13-year-old girl, and it was time to get to the point. You being a father of a 13-year-old girl.

Exactly. But here... The guy will have to struggle, you know? I'm the father of... If she compares... Everything I try, at least I try to be for them. And if she compares with her boyfriend, he'll have to be for them. And if they compare me to their boyfriend,

he'll have to be a dog's dick.

Yeah, but that's a good example.

But I think it's funny, right, dad? The daughter has a thing with her father. I think he's the first man she's ever met. So, you become... It's a reference, what I want, what I accept. And that totally influences her future for the relationship.

Exactly.

It changes a lot.

And the son, the son, the man, is actually... love is the same, right? But he has more there, the mother as...

But I think that sometimes...

Yeah, because José calls me mom.

No way!

My mom and I are mom and everything is fine.

Really? Yeah.

Man...

The others... And the man, José... The girls talk faster, walk faster. Men are slower.

It's men.

It's men, right?

What would a man without a woman be like?

You said you're living in an office. These days, your video went viral. Did you see it? With the brunette. Did you like it? And soon, everyone identified a brunette there. Did you like it? Yeah, and then everyone identified me as a brunette.

And then?

And then?

Was it over? Was it just a little dance? Just a little dance?

Without commitment?

Just a little dance.

A little dance without commitment.

No, it's because I'm very respectful, right?

I danced and that's it

Really?

But then you were single for 4 months, have you ever kissed?

No

No one? I'm telling the truth

I can't believe you said that

He was saying he was causing the off, guys You said when the kids are on like that, I'm causing it. No, but I'm like that, but I'm not doing any of that, you know?

Just living, leaving.

Are you selective?

Of what?

For women.

No, I am, I am.

I am.

I am.

I'm in your face that you are. No, I am. I am. I am. I am.

I'm in your face that you are.

No, I really am. But did you know her? The girl you were dancing with? Luisa? No, I didn't. Because you posted it without showing her face,

but everyone already identified her.

It was on the pages and I don't know what. It was on Belle, right. It didn't work out. It didn't? No. What did it work out? She had finished it. Three days she had finished it, but she was

letting you go. Yeah, the ex went to talk. Ah, but it's normal, right?

We suffer. Leave it to them. The ex will always suffer, and it's normal. It's right to suffer. It's part of it. Yeah. Who has never suffered will suffer one day. It's all right. One day, just like luck, one day your time will come.

Speaking of advice, I love it when you give advice to your boyfriends. And I posted on my Instagram for people to send advice, for you to advise. Can you?

Of course.

Give us honors. And are you dating? I'm not, my son, I'm more single than ever.

Today you posted on your best friends Crying I don't believe in anything men say She's exposing me I'm sorry I'm sorry

Show it I'm gonna say something I've been through some hard times Others? No, I've been a girlfriend since I was 14 So I've been through some hard times and nowadays... I've been a girlfriend for 14 years, so I've been through some hard times but now I think I know some cool people, but I can't...

you know when you have an emotional block? it doesn't work, it doesn't work someone can be in front of me and I'll be like... and when do you start telling me the truth? I can't believe anything people say and I'm suffering with that because I've always been very romantic, I've always believed in love

I've always been that person and now I'm suffering with it Even though there's no reason to suffer Because I'm also very happy with the phase I'm living I think it's the first time I'm single and I'm loving it I was telling you, when you learn to act like a man, you don't suffer Got it?

And that's it. Now I'm in this phase.

More?

Act like a man.

Yeah, but the thing is that a man... You're talking to one, and when you see that you think it's the only one, there's two more.

No, but these are the men you know.

Love. the men you know. Love! Vinny, introduce these men that exist there, that I don't know the others, that act differently. It's hard, see? Tell me, woman, if you're not. Let's go to the questions. Zé, I still love my ex. I said we were just friends, but I died of jealousy of him.

What do I do?

Mário sent a message to her. No! Never!

I love my ex

Who asks for the first climate

I was kidding

He was fast

Any? I forgot

I still love my ex I said we were just friends, but I'm dying of jealousy What do I do to get over my ex?

Go out, it won't work It won't work? I'm not only his friend, but I'm jealous of him. What do I do to get over Ace? Hmm...

Do it outside, it won't work. It won't work?

I killed him when he was without an F.

It's like having a lion inside your house. When you least expect it, it eats you. I'm in love with my best friend, but I'm afraid of ruining our friendship. What do I do?

That's a tough one, right?

Pedro is over there, telling you to do it.

I was thinking too much, guys. I swear.

Today I'm like this, I'm at the end of the world. I'm kidding.

But can I tell you something? The worst thing is that...

It's over. It's over. The friendship you thought was over. I think so too. Why?

I think it's better to keep the friendship, you know?

Especially when you're a friend. There's no need. You already know each other.

Yeah, right.

But sometimes it works. we married with the best friend and we've been together for years yeah it's that, it's the yes, right? like, a yes doesn't exist

I'm angry about the yes ah, yes but if my dad didn't know my mom, I wouldn't have been born

but is it to take a chance?

gosh

do you prefer to regret or to feel free?

I prefer to regret

do you prefer to regret?

you're crazy, man

yeah? Do you prefer to regret? You're crazy, man And you, Mika? I prefer to regret too

No, I think you prefer to feel free

I think it depends on the situation Camila is very head, she thinks about what she does, but I don't think about anything

Ok, I think I'm more in the... Feel free Feel free, it's true Really, Camila? I think so, I think today, at 31, I think I'm more into... To feel free. To feel free, that's true. Really, Carlos? I think so. I think that today, at 31, I think more.

I blame the age, guys. I regret it. Look, I'm 21 years old, if I don't regret it now, how much will I regret it?

But I can tell you... I think it's maturity. I was much crazier. You know? Of everything. I was a little bit more crazy, you know? I was crazy about everything After I became a father, I also...

Are you afraid of doing something? They say that when you become a mother or a father you start to be afraid of doing something like jumping from a parachute

That's it, like... I've never been in this crazy parachute thing I've never... You've never wanted to? No, because I was like, never even wanted to? No, because they said, I'm here, I'm going to jump with a parachute. Why? This shit doesn't open.

I've already jumped. He died, because he jumped with a parachute and it didn't open.

I've already jumped with a parachute.

Look, I'm going to move with the parachute.

Man, I have a...

It's like I go to the beach and a shark bit him. Only if he learns to walk in the sand, because I don't go to the sea.

You don't go?

Why? So that he can take me to the beach. I'm out, man. I go with my feet in the sand. I'm Caipirinha and Ioiana.

What?

Put a fish here.

But even when you're fishing, Do you go into the sea with a boat? Don't you jump? I jump with my hand on it Just to get wet in the bag and... you know? I bathe in the pool, throw the ball

So you're not one of those people with energy I think I go into the sea and clean my energy I like to stay there

meditating

I'm not an electrician

I'm not an energyist, I'm an energy person.

I'll take it, then I'll take a caipirinha with a lot of vodka, I throw this caipirinha, and you put on a dark glasses, take off your shirt, take a sunbath, it's good, vitamin D. So, we stay on the beach here, with flip flops, just looking.

Just watching. You don't have-flops on, just looking. Just watching.

I don't need to talk to anyone.

Do you like being alone?

I didn't like it. Now I love it. I learned to like it. I learned to like silence. Can you believe it?

You're just like me. You always had a house full of people, friends, people. I also saw myself only with people, people, people. Today I love it too.

It's good to have a moment like that.

It's so good, isn't it?

Guys, I suffer.

You pray, you...

Just watch a movie, it's good.

It's too good, man. I didn't like it at all.

But do you prefer to be with the crowd or do you prefer to be alone? It depends on the day. It depends on the vibe.

It depends. I think it's worth it. You're with people who will add to you. I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about adding everything. A good conversation.

Yes.

We're... I'm coughing like a dog.

Do you want something, Renan?

No, I'm drinking a tea.

A tea?

That one? It's good, but I didn't sleep alone at all, I even slept, I didn't sleep alone. Today I love sleeping alone. I lie down, turn off the light, watch a movie,

like... Lion, you know? It like... Lion, you know? Because I'm always sleepy, you know? Animal Planet.

Animal Planet.

I sleep for half an hour, I don't even...

Do you sleep early?

I'm trying. From Monday to Thursday, when there's no show, I try to sleep 11 hours.

No, but it's too hard, right? Because then comes the weekend and you can't control anything and you come back on Monday and you're screwed

No, on the weekend I... I don't have a routine, but if you keep a routine on Monday to Thursday it's better than living in this...

But this thing of being alone is a process, I'm trying I even started to make a picture on my Instagram which is Mari Menezes meeting, no, it's Mariana meeting Mari Menezes, I don't know what the name is, I even forgot but it's like me going out to do things alone, because I'm always with people and it's very difficult first I feel observed all the time because I place with a giant tripod and I'm filming myself alone in the middle of the business people are watching me, I feel like I'm being watched, I keep watching people

it's very weird, man, how... Did you go to the restaurant? The cinema?

Is the tripod here weird like that?

Yeah, these tripods here, imagine, in the middle of the place, like, all the people, like, a restaurant and me and a tripod. Like, instead of my company, I say that my company is my tripod stick.

The only stick that works.

Then, I went to the restaurant, I went to the movies, I went to the movies, I'm glad I went alone because I just cried. Man, I watched a movie that I almost died.

And filming in the movies.

And filming, of course, right? You're going crazy, are you crazy? But it's because the movies had few seats.

It's not cool.

I swear.

It's not good.

I went to the movies and now I went to the United States, I did a solo.

And she's getting a little red there.

I'm red?

Oh my God.

She's allergic.

I know, right?

I don't know English, right, my love? So, it was chaotic, but I'm trying.

But you live alone?

Of course not. I live, my mom, my dad...

10 dogs.

11 dogs and 10 faggots with me.

Wait a minute.

I swear, I'm almost doing a... Do you want me to do a reality show about gays. I swear to you, I love them. They are my key to life.

How many?

If we count, there are 4 or 5 a day. Every day.

Yeah.

But it's good, I like full house, but that's why I'm suffering.

But when you get used to it... It's good, like... It's not all this loneliness, no, but you have a moment in yourself there, when I wake up, I can't talk. I need at least half an hour, man.

Really?

No, I get there, I have to wake up, I have to know...

I realize...

Yes, then you know where I am. Then, if I wake up and you start talking... I say, holy shit.

I need... I wake up at 365.

I know how it is. I need half an hour. Then, you know... Coffee.

I drink a coffee.

I go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom. Start the day. It's ready for anything, my brother.

Next one. Zé, should I forgive Chifre? He swears he won't do it again.

But trust me.

Trust me. Forgive him. Forgive the betrayal. Did you trust me? Yes You lost

You lost the bet I already lost

And he cheated again

Yes

I think we are going to the next round Look I broke up with my boyfriend I cheated And now I want him back. What do I do?

You broke up with your boyfriend and you're single, right?

You think it's all good?

It's all good. I think it's satisfying when you're dating, right? You're single, you're in the world.

No problem, you see? So, for the other one, if he doesn't have that same vibe, then it's complicated, right?

Yeah.

But if he comes back later, like, I want you, after kissing you all, do you want it back?

I'm going to say no, because none of them were like you.

The tactic, there's always one, right? Do you think it's worth giving a chance to Feiyu?

No.

No?

Feiyu, he... If you give him the moral, he'll step on you. He thinks he's beautiful.

He can't.

He can't.

Or if he does, you have to remember that he's ugly Otherwise you're like

And then you start to think that you're ugly He starts to think that you're ugly Is it like that with women too?

Everything It's because The ugly and the pretty are the same But the ugly is ugly No, no There's no difference The ugly and the pretty are the same is example fey he thinks he's the guy but it was a humble fake humility difficult to have

he tries to gain arrogance there in the tap fey but there are also good feys like that

but the fey can be very bold now the one. What do I do when my ex's girlfriend interrupts our relationship? The ex doesn't give a fuck.

Yeah...

It's a waste, right?

Of the relationship?

Yeah, but... What do I do? I'll be there...

Block the ex. It's like this, you're dating What do you do? You're gonna stay there?

I blocked the ex It's like this, you're dating and the ex is bothering you

Ok, you're dating and the guy's ex is bothering you

I think it's her ex Like... Like... No, wait, it's here and Camila is dating and my ex is getting pregnant, you know?

I have to leave

and go back to the ex?

no

can you handle it?

I get it

if the person... so you're saying that I have to leave because her ex is the one who's getting pregnant so I have to leave, right? Because her ex, her ex is the one who's messing up the relationship. So I have to leave.

And you, everyone who got the question wrong.

It's like this. You date and her ex is messing up.

She has to leave.

The advice for me is to leave.

You have to leave.

But I think she's the one asking for advice. Like, my ex who's after me. After us. Like, my ex that is after me, after us, in this case.

So you have to block him.

Yeah, but, yeah, you're being cocky.

I get it, I get it.

And in your place, you have to leak, because, what if she's not...

But you leaked if it was the opposite, an ex, an ex of your current girlfriend is flirting with you, did you leak from the relationship?

You leaked nothing.

It depends on the situation. Flirting how? Like... foreign foreign foreign

foreign foreign

foreign foreign foreign But what if the poor girl is not to blame? But she is... who is silent, is aware.

I don't know who is silent.

Sometimes not, sometimes she...

If she was bothering the situation, she would say it. Sometimes she is thinking it's good.

True. Like, that's it, was trying to do this, to provoke him.

You as a good love advisor. Do you consider yourself a good love advisor? No.

No? No.

I was going to say, you listen to your own advice.

I think I've been, but I'm not anymore.

Now you're out of place to talk.

I am. I lost.

Zé. I'm lost. Zé, what changed in your life from when you were married to now that you're single? What changed? When you have... it's a relationship that... It's a... it's a... it's a... it's a connection that is forever. When you have a child, you know?

No, but I don't mean with the person, but your life, like, your life itself, you know?

Man, it changed... ...my routine, nothing.

You don't have a routine?

No.

You don't have to satisfy yourself. Yeah, you don't have to call. You don't have to call, you don't have to... You don't have time to... Yeah, to call, to satisfy yourself. That's it. Because I've always been very...

I've always lived my life good life, you know? I was always very homey, when I left I would go to your house, I would make barbecue, so it was always very quiet. And the good relationship you have,

because you have three daughters, right? So, the coex coexistence that you have... It's three daughters and it's a routine, it's a routine, not a relationship, that is forever. So, you can make this relationship difficult

or we can be friends. Friendship, so let's go. Always wishing the best for each other. Grateful for the bigger good, which is our children. And affection and respect. Because sometimes people forget everything they've lived.

You know? Everything that was. Everything that was. And throw it away. It's not because you my girlfriend or got married. I'm not saying that because I broke up with my girlfriend or got married.

I'm not saying that because I broke up with my girlfriend or got married. I'm not saying that because I broke up with my girlfriend or got married.

People on the internet say a lot of things.

I don't have any animosity with anyone. If I did, I would tell you all, in a good way, without any problems. So, I don't have any animosity with anyone. With Ana, she's a wonderful girl, but I'm the one with the skirt.

Yeah, a couple that stopped Brazil, because people saw you guys as equals.

Why didn't it work out?

It worked out until where it should have.

It went wrong. It worked out for two months, then it went wrong. What happens? Who knows? It went wrong. It went wrong for two months, but the guy understands. Carin Tem, Ana, the family, Rodrigo, Michele, the Agroplay staff, Vetus, Dorico, Dudo, wonderful people, they are amazing people, Ana is amazing, it just didn't work out

as a boyfriend and everything is fine.

I saw that you guys were still friends, she went to the farm, and then...

No, I'm always there for you, it's wonderful, you need me. I think that people have this thing, right? It just didn't work out there as a boyfriend, but as a friend.

Do you think it influences anything? It's a curiosity of mine. But you were married for many years, I was there for many years and then you ended up living a life of a boyfriend do you think it changes, like, influences? because you were used to a marriage routine is the relationship very different? like, do you understand what I'm asking?

do you think it changed anything? did it influence what you lived for a new completely different routine? a relationship? because a marriage and a a new completely different routine, a date, because a marriage and a date are completely different. And you, because you're always very intense, like...

Yeah, like, when the guy leaves, then... Even more if you stay a long time, the guy gets a little lost, right? Then, but I never, like, I never, I just lived my life. Did you suffer living? No, I just went living. Ah, just went living.

So, like, nothing, I never went like, I planned, nothing, I just went and went and went and I'm living and going. And so, I go, I do everything. I've never been a guy who plans a lot, God blesses me and I go. I try to be as correct as possible being a human being, which is a failure, but trying not to fail, having the same failures as yesterday, learning from my exes and living my life without much... I never planned anything, man.

These days you said that dating you is very difficult. Do you think it is? Yes, I'm a difficult guy. Why?

Difficult, right?

But difficult in what sense?

To conquer. I'm a difficult guy to conquer.

But do you like to conquer people or do they have to win you over? No way! It's hard, it's hard to handle everything

Disposition Anyway It's hard, you have to...

But are you afraid of relating to anonymous people too? No, I'm not afraid of anything Or you don't care? I don't care You're not afraid of people going there just for interest or something like that? Or what? Do you want to benefit from something you can provide? I don't know.

All of them.

It's going to be an exchange of interests. I'm not going there either. It's all an exchange of interests.

It's true.

It's like when I see old people with young women. It's an exchange of interests. He's interested in her youth, I'm interested in his money.

No.

It's true.

If you're going to warm your head with everything, right?

You're going crazy. If you're going to take everything to the letter. It's like when I see some internet critics. I say, stop thinking. Put yourself in the shoes of the person who is criticizing you. the something bad there and it goes to the other. Sometimes people don't even put this evil that you see so much in the comment as you see him, you know, look, he's cursing me here, ugly. Like, people it sometimes, you know? What was it?

Your hair, as they say.

When people say your hair?

Yeah, my hair, man.

Do you get involved with your hair?

Wow, you have to dress like this, you have to use your hair like this. I buy a fantosh, fuck.

I'm crazy.

What do you think of the people who are saying that you are changing according to your... I'll buy a fantasy, damn it. I'm crazy.

What do you think of the people who are saying that you're going to change according to your intentions? I'm going to change, and we have to change. If it's only one thing for the rest of my life...

It's too bad.

Oh no, I'm going to wear this for the rest of my life, because it's going to be like this. And to please too? To please, to please. I've had my phases too.

I'm changing, and I thought it was cool, I'm going to use it.

And sometimes I finish missing the vibe and you want to go back?

I'll come back.

I'll come back.

I'll come back, it's what I said in the beginning, bro. You're not going to hurt anyone, you have to live your life the way you believe. Because when you die, the one who will take the land is you. Anyone can love you as much as they want, but they won't die for you. The only one who died for us to live was Jesus.

It's true.

That's enough.

Do you think it's too much of a creation? Is that your father's way? Do you think it's a lot of creation? I think my dad has...

He buys a farm, he buys oxen, but it's because he likes it. He loves it. He lives the way he thinks is cool. He likes to go to the farm every week. He goes to the farm, enjoy it. And you stay three more days at home, my mom gets crazy to travel, because he's got a conversation going on inside the house.

So, it's like, it's the way of his life that he likes, and everything is fine. Sometimes you like to travel, sometimes you like to buy.

Yes.

You work for it,

it will work. That's it.

And sometimes people get bothered.

That's true. Do you like to travel? I like it a lot.

I think it's a travel company.

It's about the party.

You can go to any barrack, if you have a good company.

It's really good.

It's really good.

Zé, let me tell you something. These days you posted on Instagram that Neymar is missing the World Cup. Do you think he has to go to the World Cup?

Of course he has to go. He's Neymar, damn it.

Do you like soccer?

No.

You have to respect the history of men.

You're crazy, I can't go.

It's true. You don to respect the history of men, right? You're crazy. You can't be a man. Yeah.

It's true. You're not expecting any team?

I am.

Goiás.

Now tell me what a crazy thing this is. You're crazy, José.

Where? Me?

South of the sea, in the football field.

I have to go.

It's crazy. Tell me which team. Me, Cruzeirão. me I was born in São Paulo Where were you born? I was born in São Paulo

Are you from São Paulo? Yes, I was born and raised here Mari!

Tell us about

the party

the party the train how did you show up?

From the beginning?

Yeah, I still don't understand, I'm a Czech.

It was like this, I was born and raised here in São Paulo and I was on the internet, recording and stuff but I never thought it would work out I just started recording without any intention because the pandemic started and I've been very agitated since I was a kid and I studied in a full-time job, I didn't start doing anything at home, my mom working because she's a dentist

I started going crazy inside the house, what do I do, what do I do, what do I do? My mom starts recording, there are people making money, crazy people on the people, I won't, I won't. I started recording. But I didn't have a question, I was the one who sent my own questions, I don't know what. And then at the time, Virginia said she was going to agency someone. And I said, bro, it's my chance. But when I put something in my head, forget it. Nobody takes it away. I can do this thing.

I said, I will do follow, I became a fan. I even thought of going to Goiás, I knocked on the door when I was in 6th grade. But who said I had money?

But why pre-checkup?

Oh, you want to know about the pre-checkup? Because in the middle of all this madness, I made a video on TikTok, I was going to the gym, but I was very thin, I was 15 years old. And I was with a night observatory and I put my hand in front of it all the time and at the end of the video I take it off and say how do I go to the gym like this? and the night observatory was marking me as if I was on a train

and people were calling me the Prechecão's husband but then it was my first video that went viral so I said, guys, I went viral I'm the Prechecão's husband accept it! And I put it, for a month I was the husband of the big guy, it was a month I hadn't even done everything yet

And I got this name, my son, to get out, it took a while And then she went there, I went to the door with the poster Because she was going to have the party

I remember that, you came in

Yeah, I was going to have the party, in São Paulo, I'm in São Paulo, I'm going after it.

I remember that a lot of people were sending messages, Mário do Preixecão, I said, what the fuck is that? Mário do Preixecão, and look at her. I was watching, guys, today I opened DM, I swear to you, I think there must be about 200 marks on your account.

Like me dancing, music, all day long. I just did that.

And it blew up. It stopped dancing.

It's crazy, right?

You see? Now you have to pay. The music went up. I'm kidding. I dance for free. No problem.

But it's too good. God knows everything all the time.

All the time. And all in God's time.

Right, Cams? knows everything all the time. All the time. And all in God's time. All in God's time.

Right, Cami?

Camis, you opened the internet.

Since the memories. You turned the internet into a sauna.

How long has it been?

12 years. 12 years.

I've been doing it for 4 years.

4 years.

Man, I remember when I... Yeah, I'm 10 years, and I remember Camis when I started.

We used to wash all the tins in the magazine.

Do you remember that?

We used to sing at a party of mine.

We used to...

It's been a long time.

You're getting old, Camis.

I used to watch Camila Loures' Pequenininha on YouTube and listened to her songs. Pequenin girl is awesome. She's awesome. But I watched us on YouTube 24 hours a day and listened to your songs. I'm a fan, but I was a big fan. I've always listened to a lot of Sertanejo. My family is also a big Sertanejo fan, even though we're from São Paulo. People ask me, how come you only listen to Sertanejo?

You're from São Paulo. I listen to everything, right? Yeah, everything, but I was raised by my mom listening to the country music and I always listened to those songs

and I was like, man, that's cool!

And speaking of God, you are very attached to God, right? I see you thanking God for everything

I think that... I have a lot of faith, right? I think that this moves me too and it's good, I try to pass it on to my kids too, thank God. José is still very young, but Maria has a lot of faith, and Florzinha too. So I think that's the basis of my life.

I think the only thing I love more than my children is God. I'm very grateful for everything He does, everything He provides me with, all the doors He opens, everything He does in my life is amazing. I'm very grateful to God for everything He did, everything He does and everything He will do.

José, what's the weirdest thing weird habit that no one can imagine?

Weird habit?

Yeah, a weird habit you do...

You seem to have a lot of weird habits.

Tell me one I look like.

I don't know. You like to smell a lot. What's that? I think I don't even have a piercing on my nails, so I can't even see my fingers Let me see my little piercing here But I don't have any mania

I do, I take... I like to take naked pictures to check it out

What do you mean?

Like this

Your shape is like this

No, I'm Bilal

It's a weird mania, isn't it? What? Isn't it? What?

Isn't it?

Is it normal?

I don't have it, I'll find out.

Do you do this?

No, no one does.

Does anyone do it? The men here, guys? I don't think anyone does it.

I think it's really a weird thing.

So I think it If it's cute, I leave it in the hidden items

If it leaks, at least it leaks well

If it's bad, I delete it Oh my God, I would have to... What is the most useless thing you've ever bought?

Useless?

Yeah, like, the most... Bro, why would I buy this?

Wow, you have it, huh, bro?

Do you like to spend money a lot?

With some things. But you're not attached to money, right, friend? Like, if you liked it, you'll buy it.

No, it's... that's it, I think it's...

Depends on the price.

That's it, it's like...

You're not a cow's hand? No. You're not a cow hand? No Do you even look at the price? No, you have to look at it Oh, I was going to say, damn it!

But do you let them buy you because of the price?

If you liked it

Sometimes I share

But there was one thing that you regretted

Minas Gerais is a cow hand

My mom is a cow hand, my grandma

Minas Gerais is like that

I think I'm not a cow hand, I'm aware of it, I've been a cow hand. But when you don't have it and you start winning, you start being a cow hand, obviously. Imagine not having it again.

But the more you get used to it, with good things. I like to eat, eat well.

Taurine, a good taurine.

I like to eat well, sleep well.

Comfort, then? I like it eat well, sleep well. Comfort, then?

I like it a lot.

You're zero?

You like planes a lot, right? You have your jet there.

And it's a comfort. Do you think it's a luxury or do you need it?

Actually, it's both. I want to say it's because of... It's not just that. It's comfort too, bro. Of course you have a tight schedule, but the comfort is not just about flying a jet, but being able to come back and say, I have a son, I can do this here,

and leave here and go home to sleep with my kids. That's a comfort for me.

For sure.

You know? Sometimes I'd... I don't know, I would go at 5 in the morning and I would get home, now I'm ending here, I'm going home and I get there and sleep with my kids.

It's much faster, right?

So, it's the practicality of it, you know? So, I think that's why it's worth it. And another, work to go. We work, we have to work wanting to.

The comfort of going.

The comfort of going.

The comfort, better.

Yeah, like, you work before, then you just keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. You die.

And you didn't spend it.

Then you have to go. I think like this, I want to let... I want my children to have a quality of life. And I'm not talking about father, father, nothing. I want my children to have the quality of life they were born with, that they were used to.

For the rest of their lives, I'll leave that comfort, but... For them to keep the standard they were born with, you know? And that's it. So, regardless of anything, it's me, Zé. And thank God, I can do this now.

Are you sure?

My...

Your children, grandchildren, everyone is fine, guys.

Thank God, everything is fine.

Thank God.

And they are safe and can live anywhere.

Thank God. But was there anything that you bought very expensive and regretted? You said, man, you shouldn't have.

Wow, man, once, when I started... When I started singing, I went to... I I paid R$35,000 for a dog. R$35,000 for a dog, like the one you have there. What's it called?

The Luluda Pomeranian.

Yeah, the Luluda Pomeranian.

No way!

R$35,000 for a Luluda Pomeranian. But they talked about the price of the parcel. I thought it was R$2,000, but it was the price of the parcel. Like the cat auction. Yeah, it was a cat auction, but there was a dog in the middle. And I was raising my finger, and there was this guy, he was like, why are you laughing so much?

You know, with the mustache, the hat, the belly. And he was like, and he was raising his finger, and I was like, and then you start cheering, because there are women who keep screaming. And you go like, and and you're like... And you... 35 thousand in the dog.

35 thousand in the dog...

But then, did you get a dog?

If I tell you, you'll say I'm lying.

Tell me.

The giboia ate the dog, can you believe it? A giboia.

Really?

A week ago, the dog was at home, because we live in a farm, the giboia ate my dog. And 35 thousand? And 35 thousand. I had paid for the first part, 2 thousand.

Wow, that's a lot of money.

Respect.

How scary, there's a giboy on the train.

Yeah.

But there was also a thing where a jaguar appeared, right?

Yeah, but the dog, I ran after the dog, I had run away, and the dogs disappeared, and I went after the dog.

Poor dog

We called the condominium, I said, it must be in the kennel, right?

And how did you find it?

There, in the jibóia area, with him in there

Oh my God

Guys, what a horror

Aren't you afraid of the kids hunting there? And a jibóia, God forbid

No

Crosses

Wow, I would be paranoid You know, the easiest kids to eat are the ones with the gibbon

Now that Dominio is more attentive

But he didn't buy a lot of food

Yeah, he ate my dog Guys

It's a Sully Oh man, what a pity You need another Lulu then Yeah, with Baloo you didn't even have to go. I think they're all going to go.

I think they're all going to go.

I think they're all going to go.

I think they're all going to go.

I think they're all going to go. Of course! Of course! You drink! I never call! Where's the best? So, is there a drink? Is there a drink? Yes! So, you drank already?

Yes! If not, you don't do anything. So, let's go! Let me see, you sent it. Let me see. I never... If you have it, you can also pull it. I never forgot... This one is not even for us.

I never forgot the lyrics of my own song on stage. Do you swear?

Because of the TDAH?